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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on

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Speaker 2: Tray this winter news talks. That'd be good morning.

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Speaker 3: It is six after five Thursday to thirty, first of July.

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Speaker 3: Great to have your company this morning. Kiwibank's capital rays

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Speaker 3: partial float of Kiwibank as well. You know, would Keywis

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Speaker 3: really care if foreigners partly owned our bank? Well, look

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Speaker 3: at that Chatham's Air The CEOs on the show. Regional

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Speaker 3: airlines are feeling the heat. The air traffic control costs

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Speaker 3: are going up by more than seventeen percent over the

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Speaker 3: next three years. So can they hold on? Mitch McCann

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Speaker 3: and the US for US. Oh, and congratulations, we've all

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Speaker 3: survived the great Tsunamani alert of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: The agenda.

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Speaker 3: Yes, those alerts across the Pacific made more waves in

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Speaker 3: Japan have now downgraded their loots.

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Speaker 4: The potential for strong currents or dangerous waves are expected

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Speaker 4: are occurring. For those in or near the water. There

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Speaker 4: may be flooding of beach or harbor areas. Those who

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Speaker 3: The California coast and some small pots in North America

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Speaker 5: We are pretty lucky and in the United States West

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Speaker 3: Trump tariff watched this morning. He's threatening India, this time

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Speaker 3: threatening twenty five percent tariff on impulse. They haven't made

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Speaker 6: It's not the end of the road. It seems more

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Speaker 6: the farewell.

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Speaker 3: For Ozzie Osborne and Birmingham in the UK taking place overnight.

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Speaker 3: The Osborne family were in tears taking a moment to

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Speaker 7: It's a bit of a somber atmosphere now, but as

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Speaker 7: you can hear, the chance of Ozzie's name are still

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Speaker 8: But this is what Ozzie would have.

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Speaker 7: Wanted, a celebration of his life rather than a morning

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Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early

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Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and ex Fole Insulation keeping Kighi

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Speaker 2: This winter news talk, sa'd be.

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Speaker 8: So everybody's safe from the tsunami. That's good.

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Speaker 3: They do say still to stay out of the water,

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Speaker 3: I mean, don't go boating this morning. Probably not the

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Speaker 8: But how do you have you.

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Speaker 3: In Russia, you know, someone who's smarter than me will

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Speaker 8: Well, you know what would you rather.

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Speaker 3: Would you rather have some alerts go out and potentially

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Speaker 8: That's my question? Nine two ninety two is the number text.

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Speaker 3: It's just gone eleven minutes after five here on news Talk,

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Speaker 3: And I've also got some numbers for you this morning,

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Speaker 3: It's just gone fourteen after five. Here's yeah, zero small

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Speaker 8: Quarter past five, Bryant Bridge.

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Speaker 3: More energy is on the way and it's coming from

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Speaker 3: below our feet Energy mister Shane Jones announcing yesterday plan

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Speaker 3: to double our production of geothermal energy by twenty forty.

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Speaker 3: He says we have the potential to be a world

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Speaker 3: CEO with me this morning.

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Speaker 8: Hey Stuart, good morning, How are you good? Thank you?

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Speaker 8: What did you make of this?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a good start, we think. Looking Zilland's already

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Speaker 9: a global leader in gfrmal energy production and we've produced

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Speaker 3: Why do we need the government to be stumping up

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Speaker 9: So welling is a Drilling wells is a huge upfront

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Speaker 9: That you can do quite a lot of investigation from

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Speaker 3: If we were to double what the Minister says we

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Speaker 8: Do we need to drill? You know, how much is

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Speaker 9: But that's absolutely needed.

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Speaker 3: And we'll be paying for that through higher prices with electricity.

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Speaker 9: So typically what happens is we taken it part of

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Speaker 3: Hey, appreciate your time this morning. Stuart Stuart Hamilton, Mercury

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Speaker 3: Energy chief Executive on Shane Jones' big geo thermal steam

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Speaker 8: He was quite excited by this.

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Speaker 3: What an exciting time, said Isabelle chamber Fought from Energy Futures.

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Speaker 3: She says, what an exciting time. The strategy lays the

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Speaker 3: Twenty one minutes after five. They've had a Halliban morning

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Speaker 8: Well evening.

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Speaker 3: I shit's over in the UK with flights diverted, flights

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Speaker 8: Back home.

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Speaker 3: The cost of flying to and from every airport in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's literally unaffordable. Douane appreciate that really interesting stuff.

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Speaker 3: twenty six after five quick update on Keep Bank and

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Speaker 3: A couple of predictions for you this morning, at twenty

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Speaker 8: Kiwi Bank at the next election.

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Speaker 3: I think it's looking and sounding more and more like

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Speaker 3: for Phil Goff and the Labor Party.

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Speaker 8: Key, we saber.

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Speaker 3: Another prediction for you this morning, we will pay and

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Speaker 3: our employers will pay I think twelve percent before long's

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Speaker 3: It's David and Goliath, so we need to save more.

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Speaker 3: And if we're serious about the Kibank taking on the Aussies.

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Speaker 3: They need more cash too. Twenty nine after five Bridge

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Speaker 1: Brian Bridge on early edition with ex bowl insulation keeping

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Speaker 12: On me. Good morning.

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Speaker 3: It is twenty four minutes away from the six News

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Speaker 3: Talk said be you'll love this story. This is about

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Speaker 3: the COP you know, the UN Climate conference that they

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Speaker 3: So an emergency meeting about an emergency situation because the

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Speaker 3: the group that they call a meeting. When you've got

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Speaker 3: convene a meeting, an emergency meeting of the UN's COP Bureau.

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Speaker 8: This is an actual thing. So who you're going to call.

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Speaker 3: You're going to call the COP Bureau and they are

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Speaker 3: forty five thousand people are going to attend COP thirty

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Speaker 3: of Nelson traveling. Most of them, you'd say business class

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Speaker 3: traveling to Brazil to talk about the climate. You know,

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Speaker 3: we're serious. The problem is a lot of the poor

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Speaker 8: Extra beds for delegates. Are on what planet?

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Speaker 3: Now here's the kicker, and this is the cheap price

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Speaker 3: Michael sircles with US Denise News this morning. Michael, good morning,

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Speaker 3: Good morning. Boiled water notice could be shortened.

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Speaker 13: Yes for two Central Otago communities ran Purley and Partieroa

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Speaker 13: So that means that everything could be operational by September,

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Speaker 8: All right, that's good news, Michael. How's the weather partly? Cloudly?

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Speaker 3: Thank you Claires and christ Chuts this morning, clear, good morning,

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Speaker 3: good morning. You've got some international recognition for Christchurch City Council.

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Speaker 14: It's right well, indeed, specifically for the council's fire detection

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Speaker 14: They gather information on things like air pollution, smoke, wind

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Speaker 3: All right, thank you, max Is and Wellington, Max good morning,

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Speaker 3: good morning. Have we had any confirmation on the FBI

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Speaker 16: Well we have, yes, this is a excuse me, Cash Patel,

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Speaker 16: eyed member of our newsroom in Parliament alongside other US

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Speaker 16: did show Patel traveling from Hawaii to Sydney to Wellington.

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Speaker 16: The US Embassy would only say this that we have

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Speaker 16: many official visits to New Zealand and comment on those

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Speaker 16: at the appropriate time when they're in a position to

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Speaker 16: do so. So a lot of coyness around this visit

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Speaker 16: a visit, but it was confirmed Cash.

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Speaker 8: Pateel Here we go, Nicola, let the cat out of

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Speaker 8: the bag.

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Speaker 3: It's not hugely professional, isn't it, you know when they're

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Speaker 3: trying to be secret about this stuff? And didn't she

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Speaker 3: say something about how hot the bodyguards were.

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Speaker 16: She did say that a lot of attractive men in

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Speaker 16: suits were walking around Parliament yesterday. Yes, great day for Nikola.

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Speaker 16: How's the weather showers early clearing later? Southerly's ten the

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Speaker 16: hey Central, nice.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Nevasva, good morning delays. This is about the

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Speaker 3: Western Springs decision, making another delay.

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Speaker 7: Another delay. You're quite right, so yeah, bit of disappointment

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Speaker 7: to you. So the Auckland Council was set to discuss

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Speaker 7: the issue at today's governing body meeting. Now that is

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Speaker 7: going to come up after October's local elections. So as

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Speaker 7: we know, you know, this was after uplan and FC

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Speaker 7: back proposal with Drew citing the extended timelines and all

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Speaker 7: these complexities around it. So Councilor Shane Henderson has come out.

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Speaker 7: He said, look, the last council meeting when the issue

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Speaker 7: was discussed, it got quite heated. So it's a tough decision,

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Speaker 7: he said. You know, it's a shame that it's been

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Speaker 7: dragged out, but that's what it is. So that's a

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Speaker 7: new angle. It will be discussed after the election.

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Speaker 8: Oh god. So we have to keep hearing about Western Springs.

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Speaker 3: That's right, bomb under it. I'm second hearing about it.

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Speaker 3: It was sit there in the same state it is now.

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Speaker 7: I totally agree with you.

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Speaker 3: In another ten years yep, all right, Neva House, the weather

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Speaker 3: and all place you think.

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Speaker 7: About hearing this, expect strong and unusual currents and unpredictable

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Speaker 7: soogas as opposed to urgas. At the shore. The warning

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Speaker 7: hasn't been withdrawn people. And you know what the funny

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Speaker 7: thing is is when you're told don't go down to

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Speaker 7: the beach, they all bloody flop down there.

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Speaker 3: There was a guy yesterday the Hawaiian news coverage, I

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Speaker 3: think it was NBC and there was a guy on

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Speaker 3: a paddle board and they were saying we're just waiting

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Speaker 3: for the tsunami to come in, and.

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Speaker 8: The other do it on a paddle board.

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Speaker 3: Don't do that, don't do that, please don't it's that

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Speaker 3: seventeen to six.

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Speaker 8: Thanks Neva, you're on news Talk sa'd.

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Speaker 3: B will get to Mitch McCann's Stateside next for the

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Speaker 3: latest on the White House action against India on trade, Yes,

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Speaker 3: India in Trump sites this morning. And then kir We

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Speaker 3: Bank this partial potential for a partial float on the

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Speaker 3: Stock exchange and the five h hundred billion dollars that

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Speaker 3: they are hopefully going to pick up after an announcement

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Speaker 3: from Nicola Willis yesterday.

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Speaker 8: It's all ahead before.

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Speaker 1: Six international correspondents with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: We'll check kvy Bank in a second just gone fourteen

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Speaker 3: away from six now and Mitch McCann is our US correspondent.

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Speaker 8: Mitch, good morning, Good.

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Speaker 15: Morning, Ryan, how are you very well?

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Speaker 8: Thank you tell us about this.

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Speaker 3: We're a day away from the trade deadline and Trump's

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Speaker 3: in to trade deadline and we've got a bit of

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Speaker 3: a hit out on India.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, that's right. Donald Trump wanted to sign I think

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Speaker 15: it was ninety deals in ninety days, Ryan. Unfortunately for

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Speaker 15: the president, I think he's managed five. And on the

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Speaker 15: first of August, these reciprocal tariffs are going to come

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Speaker 15: into place. These are new tariff rates pretty high for

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Speaker 15: most of America's partners. But instead of signing a deal

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Speaker 15: with India, he's decided he's going to slap a twenty

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Speaker 15: five percent tariff on in there. He said, India is

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Speaker 15: our friend, but we've done little business with him over

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Speaker 15: the last few years because their tariff are too high,

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Speaker 15: which really indicates he's not happy with the way trade

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Speaker 15: negotiations have been going. And another important aspect of this

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Speaker 15: is that Donald Trump says India has been buying too

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Speaker 15: much military equipment and energy from Russia, and he's threatening

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Speaker 15: a second tariff concerning that matter in the coming days.

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Speaker 15: So Donald Trump says all things not good in capital letters,

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Speaker 15: and he's implementing a twenty five percent tariff on India.

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Speaker 3: And you've been watching our government calling for a two

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Speaker 3: state solution to Gaza.

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Speaker 8: This is at a UN conference.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, that's right, a high level conference this week, Very

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Speaker 15: timely given what we're seeing in Gaza at the moment.

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Speaker 15: France and Saudi Arabia holding this conference where a number

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Speaker 15: of members of the international community have had a chance

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Speaker 15: to talk about how they want to advance the two

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Speaker 15: state solution. Now, this morning we heard from Nicole Robertson

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Speaker 15: from in Fatchie's, New Zealand's head of delegation. Here's what

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Speaker 15: she said about New Zealand and the two state solution

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Speaker 15: and Israel's actions.

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Speaker 17: Israel's actions, including its withholders and politicization of humanitarian assistance,

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Speaker 17: are unacceptable. Failure to do this not only undermines human rights,

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Speaker 17: but also the long term prospects for security and stability

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Speaker 17: and the international rules on which we all rely.

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Speaker 15: Then, Nicole Robertson there Ryan said it remains for us,

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Speaker 15: as in New Zealand, a matter of when, not if

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Speaker 15: Palestinian statehood is realized. Of course, Christopher Luxen says that

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Speaker 15: is something that is possible in the future, but he

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Speaker 15: wants pressure on Israel to get humanitarian aid into Gaza

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Speaker 15: as the priority at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Mitch, appreciate it. Thank you, Mitch McCann our, US correspondent.

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Speaker 3: It is twelve to six Bryan Bridge. Good news for

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Speaker 3: banking competition, Well, hopefully good news for banking competition. The

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Speaker 3: government giving the green light for a capital injection from

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Speaker 3: the private sector. Cabinet approving raising half a billion, five

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Speaker 3: hundred million dollars through QB saver funds and investment groups

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Speaker 3: with the hope of finally making the bank competitive with

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Speaker 3: the big four of the Aussies. Is Associate professor at

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Speaker 3: Massi University Business School, a banking expert.

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Speaker 8: Clear, Good morning, Marina Iron.

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Speaker 3: Is this going to shift the dial in terms of

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Speaker 3: its competitiveness, how argibargie it can be in market?

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Speaker 11: Well, it's sitting in and make a difference. We're talking

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Speaker 11: about increasing its capital by around seventeen percent, but in

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Speaker 11: reality it's still going to be substantially smaller than the

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Speaker 11: big four Australian banks. It's obviously going to be able

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Speaker 11: to do more lending and if it can do a

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Speaker 11: substantial amount more lending. Then it can be challenging in

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Speaker 11: terms of what it offers, but it's not going to

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Speaker 11: take it anywhere near the size of the Big Four.

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Speaker 11: So the extent of which to which it will actually

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Speaker 11: impact on competition is questionable.

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Speaker 8: How do you get it there?

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Speaker 3: Do you need to put it on the stock market,

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Speaker 3: as Nicola Willis is sort of indicated, is potentially an option.

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Speaker 11: We're still talking a huge amount of increase in capital

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Speaker 11: that would be required in order to get it to

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Speaker 11: anywhere like the size of the Big Four, enabling it

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Speaker 11: to grow and enabling it to do more lending, whether

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Speaker 11: it's through this capital injection or additional capital through an IPO,

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Speaker 11: that's all going to help. But as usual, we're overstating

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Speaker 11: the competition issue in the market in my view, because

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Speaker 11: we do have a competitive market. qEV Bank is making

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Speaker 11: a difference as it is. Yes, it will make a

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Speaker 11: bit more of a difference if it's able to do more,

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Speaker 11: But whether we're going to see a huge change in

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Speaker 11: terms of what's happening in the banking market, I just

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Speaker 11: don't see that it's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Is that because it's started a capital or because We're

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Speaker 3: just a small country.

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Speaker 11: It's probably not either of those things. It is certainly

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Speaker 11: a challenge for keev Bank in terms of its capital

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Speaker 11: situation because in order to do leaning it needs capital

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Speaker 11: and it can only generate so much from its normal operation.

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Speaker 11: So getting more capital as a capital injection helps. We

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Speaker 11: are a small country, but that's not actually affecting a

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Speaker 11: competition issue. We have a good number of banks, they

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Speaker 11: are competing. We seem to perceive that just because they're

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Speaker 11: making lots of money that that's not competitive. That's not

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Speaker 11: necessarily the case in my view, and the challenge is

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Speaker 11: that Kiwibank is just a small bank and at least

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Speaker 11: you've got something a similar size to the big four,

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Speaker 11: You're not really going to have a competitive difference with

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Speaker 11: my view.

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Speaker 8: Interesting, Clear appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Clear Mathews as I said, professor at mass University Business School,

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Speaker 3: saying we don't have an issue with competition in our

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Speaker 3: bank in sector. Despite what Nikola Willis keeps binging on

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Speaker 3: about nine minutes away from six News talks, they'd been

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Speaker 3: right next.

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Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth

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Speaker 1: analysis earlier thisu with Ryan Bridge and ex Bowl Insulation

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Speaker 1: keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and dry this winter news talks,

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Speaker 1: that'd be.

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Speaker 3: Six minutes away from six. We all survive the tsunami, congratulations,

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Speaker 3: But when will we die?

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Speaker 8: That is the question.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday we had some numbers out on life, the longevity

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Speaker 3: of life, and the average male life expectancy at birth

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Speaker 3: rose to eighty point one years for twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: That is the highest ever. For females it's about three

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Speaker 3: years longer, so they do live longer than us. But

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Speaker 3: if you're thirty five years old, your expected your life

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Speaker 3: expectancy on average would be eighty one point four years.

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Speaker 3: If you're forty five years old you made it that far,

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Speaker 3: then it would be eighty one point nine years. For

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Speaker 3: fifty five year old it would be eighty two point

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Speaker 3: nine years. And for sixty five year olds. If you're

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Speaker 3: sixty five right now, you will probably on average reach

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Speaker 3: eighty four point four years. If you make it to

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Speaker 3: eighty years a male, you can expect to live to

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Speaker 3: at least eighty eight point six years. For females that

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Speaker 3: is very close to ninety five to six. Cram Bridge

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Speaker 3: and I've thought i'd read that because Mike's here and

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Speaker 3: I know how much how long you want to live for.

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Speaker 18: It's the quality, you mate, It's not about the length,

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Speaker 18: it's the quality. Surely you've been told that before.

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, but I just think at some point the

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Speaker 3: two things. It's like the graph gets a bit skilled

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Speaker 3: with where you get so old?

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Speaker 18: Is it quality anything? There's something there isn't there? But

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Speaker 18: you look at people like, there's no question that sixties

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Speaker 18: the new forty seventy is the new fifty.

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Speaker 8: But you get hang on, hang on, you're jumping.

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Speaker 18: No, you get past eighty here, you get past eighty

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Speaker 18: though you don't see many really well eighty high eighties,

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Speaker 18: do you, And once you get to ninety it becomes

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Speaker 18: really rare. Something happens in the eighties to nineties that

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Speaker 18: you're sort.

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Speaker 8: Of the body gets the body.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, it's yeah, I don't know. And so at that

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Speaker 18: point you're talking about medical and medical intervention. But I

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Speaker 18: reckon this generation of people because I read a lot

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Speaker 18: about this and the generation of people. If you get

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Speaker 18: in early, the stuff they know now about genes and

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Speaker 18: turning genes on and off and stuff is incredible. And

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Speaker 18: so if you get in early and you conduct your

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Speaker 18: life in a way that you know aims at longevity.

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Speaker 8: You'll you'll be away on.

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Speaker 3: Every fine, But then you've got such an expensive retirement.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you retire at sixty five, if you

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Speaker 3: may need, didn't come until you're ninety.

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Speaker 18: See, that's the other part of it. No one's retiring

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Speaker 18: in sixty five. No one's retired sixty five, And that's

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Speaker 18: that's a big change. In fact, I know a guy

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Speaker 18: who his father is ninety something now and he says

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Speaker 18: his biggest regret said to his son, his biggest regrets

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Speaker 18: to son sixty three. He said to his son, his

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Speaker 18: biggest regret was retiring at sixty five, because he's been

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Speaker 18: retired for thirty something years now and he's bought out

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Speaker 18: of his brain.

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Speaker 8: But he's still here exactly.

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Speaker 18: And soon we want to work longer. You and I

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Speaker 18: be here for another thirty forty years, right, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah or not.

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Speaker 8: I don't know about that.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 8: What have you got on the show today?

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Speaker 18: Courts they're changing the rules. They've done a trial pilot

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Speaker 18: worked well apparently judge only, so they're going to roll

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Speaker 18: it out right around the country. Yeah, you can't get

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Speaker 18: a jury for love nor money, as far as I

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Speaker 18: can work out, you know, Jeremy Pitten.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he's in Oh lovely, he's here today. Yeah, big

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Speaker 8: day on the Mike hosting Breakfast. See to him over.

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Speaker 12: Runs Rules to the Gown.

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