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Speaker 2: Welcome today, Mark Mitchell will be updated from the Mount

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Speaker 2: of course. New economic data today. We've got inflation, we

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Speaker 2: got tourist numbers, more moves around the etes for forest owners.

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Speaker 2: You'll be interested in termiicating to the week. Richard Arnold,

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Speaker 2: State Side, Murray Olds in Australia, Husky, Welcome to Friday,

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Speaker 2: seven past six. Accas and crisis. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 2: that's news to you or not. They're sinking in sea

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Speaker 2: of debt. They're forecast in four short years to begin

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Speaker 2: the whole to the tune of twenty six billion dollars. Now,

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Speaker 2: there are side issues like court cases, who make decisions

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Speaker 2: that envelop the organization into a fiscal level of responsibility

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Speaker 2: they can't calculate, and in that I feel sorry for them.

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Speaker 2: But their turnaround plan, which has just been launched, involves

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Speaker 2: them getting back to black in said four years that,

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Speaker 2: if done, will be well worth applauding. Now I've got

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Speaker 2: no doubt it can be done, mainly because The problem

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Speaker 2: is one of will and determination, but it does involved

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Speaker 2: tough decisions, a bit of backbone, and a whole new attitude.

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Speaker 2: Couple of key figures give the story away in my view.

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Speaker 2: Figure one. The number of people in the past decade

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Speaker 2: who are on long term payments has gone from twelve

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Speaker 2: thousand to twenty four thousand. In other words, is doubled.

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Speaker 2: Is the population doubled in that time? No, it has not.

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Speaker 2: Have we fallen over a lot more? Not necessarily? Have

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Speaker 2: we milked a system able to be milked, Yes we have.

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Speaker 2: Figure two, cost of rehab same period, it's gone from

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Speaker 2: two billion a year to four billion, doubled as inflation doubled. No,

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Speaker 2: it hasn't. Have people seen ACC coming and adjusted their

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Speaker 2: costs accordingly, Yes they have. The whole thing is not

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Speaker 2: a lot short of a scam. It's an industry in which,

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Speaker 2: if you take your eye off the ball, make the

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Speaker 2: rules convoluted, and look to scrimp and save in the

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Speaker 2: wrong areas, it's ripe for the sort of calamitous outcome

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Speaker 2: that's clearly eventuated. Literally half the country claims ACC each year.

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Speaker 2: It's astonishing, it's not normal. Recently, family member was a

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Speaker 2: recipient of ACC without boring you with the details. At times,

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Speaker 2: ACC seemed determined this person should not return to work.

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Speaker 2: There was a rigid inflexibility in their approach.

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Speaker 1: Rules were rules.

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Speaker 2: Ironically, this family member was desperate to get back to work,

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Speaker 2: but said any number of doctors and specialists not before

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Speaker 2: just a bit more treatment. Do that two million times

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Speaker 2: over in your twenty six billion in the whole. The

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Speaker 2: good news is there is no reason it can't be fixed.

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Speaker 2: The question mark is do they have the gonads and

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Speaker 2: the wherewithal who?

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds?

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Speaker 2: Right, it's busy four things, Greenland, the border, peace, the

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Speaker 2: Middle East and the other war involved in all of this,

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Speaker 2: As this guy who signed his board into existence.

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Speaker 3: We've settled eight wars and I believe in other one's

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Speaker 3: coming pretty soon.

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Speaker 1: You know what that is?

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Speaker 3: The one that I thought was going to be an

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Speaker 3: easy one turned out to be probably the most difficult.

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Speaker 3: But we have meetings who we think were making a

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Speaker 3: lot of progress.

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Speaker 2: Glaring thing about the board at the moment is it

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Speaker 2: looks a bit fringe. Slovenia, for example, one of the

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Speaker 2: many many not on board.

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Speaker 4: Even though we are absolutelysolutely supporting any initiative to bring

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Speaker 4: to end the.

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Speaker 5: Suffering of the Gaza population.

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Speaker 4: We absolutely believe that that can be only done under

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Speaker 4: the umbrella of United Nations.

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Speaker 2: Little Marco meantime as point man in the Middle East.

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Speaker 6: So the focus first and foremost on making sure that

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Speaker 6: this peace steal on Gaza becomes enduring. And I know

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Speaker 6: this president has it its highest priority and we'll give

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Speaker 6: it everything he has to make sure that this is successful.

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Speaker 2: As regards Iceland, I'm in Greenland. The Danes are thinking

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Speaker 2: Britain for the help.

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Speaker 7: I like the British way of doing things. As you said,

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Speaker 7: you are very pragmatic. You have a cup of tea

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Speaker 7: and then you think a bit about anything. You get

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Speaker 7: effects on the table and then you find a way forward.

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Speaker 2: Well, Sepior of Courses never want to shy away from

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Speaker 2: recognize himself as a hero.

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Speaker 8: In terms of recent developments of the withdrawal of the

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Speaker 8: threat of terrorists, I see that as a reflection of pragmatism,

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Speaker 8: common sense and stepping to our values and our.

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Speaker 2: Principles, which leaves of course the war are where this

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Speaker 2: bloke remains frustrated.

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Speaker 4: Just last year here in Doubles, I ANDed my speech

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Speaker 4: with awards. Europe needs to know how to defend itself.

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Speaker 4: A year has passed and nothing has changed.

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Speaker 2: I think you've had a very good point, Macron. Finally, yes, Macron,

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Speaker 2: Why the ab eight is? That was questioned the week?

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Speaker 5: Wasn't that?

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Speaker 2: The internet said Brigitte had given him another slap, But

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Speaker 2: turns out it was a burst blood vessel and the

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Speaker 2: right eye upside. The makers of the glasses, Henry Julian

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Speaker 2: or as they would say in France, have been inundated.

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Speaker 2: Their big thing is gold. They integrate the gold into

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Speaker 2: the base metal. Anyway, their site crashed. Of course, Macron's

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Speaker 2: actual model, if you want to know, is the specific

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Speaker 2: SOO one double gold. He bought two pairs, one for

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Speaker 2: diplomatic gifts another one for himself thirteen hundred each, which

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Speaker 2: is right up there in terms of sunglasses, News of

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Speaker 2: the world and looking cooler than ninety. Greg will give

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Speaker 2: you more detail in the moment. But South Korea bit

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Speaker 2: anemic on the old growth. One point five was the

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Speaker 2: GDP number. But as I say, more shortly any time Japan.

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Speaker 2: This is the ongoing story. So exports five point one

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Speaker 2: point six, Hong Kong thirty one percent, US down eleven percent.

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Speaker 2: There's a trend for you. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Fascinating week in Australia. Are the political ructions yesterday particularly

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Speaker 2: cannot be overstated, but we'll deal with Murray on that later.

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Speaker 2: Their number though for unemployment very good four point one

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Speaker 2: and surprised a lot of people. But more of the

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Speaker 2: detail later. As I say with Murray, fifteen past Generate

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Speaker 2: green Smith, morning to you morning. So the migration number,

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Speaker 2: the big question around that is the drain over. Have

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Speaker 2: we finished leaving the place?

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Speaker 9: Thanks for getting a bit better? So I would say

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Speaker 9: the word to use as plateau. And so your net

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Speaker 9: migration annually was seven hundred and they've been betweenty twenty five.

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Speaker 9: So it's well down in twenty nine thousand a year

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Speaker 9: But yeah, brain drain easing, particularly to Australia. Arrivals are

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Speaker 9: up four percent. Still lots of non New Zealand citizens

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Speaker 9: good news, I think. Also good news Stats New Zealand

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Speaker 9: migrating pressures are easing, not as doomy and gloomy as

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Speaker 9: it was. Meanwhile, the positive story really positive. Tourism going

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Speaker 9: really well in Down Tourism almost fully recovered three hundred

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Speaker 9: and forty seven thousand visits in November. That's up twenty

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Speaker 9: six thousand on the year. We're at ninety three percent

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Speaker 9: of pre COVID strong games from Ossie from China, from

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Speaker 9: the US, obviously clear Taiwans whilstp and retails. That's good

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Speaker 9: on annual basis. Mike Overseas visit arrivals three point four

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Speaker 9: eight million record from the US. Maybe it's exchange rate

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Speaker 9: there doing something there. Keey's also traveling in record numbers

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Speaker 9: two and forty seven thousand November, highest ever for a

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Speaker 9: November month travel to Ozzie and the Pacific, and airport's

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Speaker 9: are port of four percent lifting international passengers in December.

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Speaker 9: Planes are fuller despite the engine problems, are still sort

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Speaker 2: Mike, I reckon, what about housing?

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Speaker 9: We got some there, Yeah, well, softer mixed ten to

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Speaker 9: But yeah, we're treading waters still. But national sales are

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Speaker 9: say they're actually up zero point two percent, So a

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Speaker 9: much a buyers market. My housing stock higher than a

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Speaker 9: of the year, I think abens obviously flag the end

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Speaker 9: probably a soft year at best for housing and probably

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Speaker 9: not the one way bit it used to be.

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Speaker 2: Give me the explanation for career. What's going on there?

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Speaker 9: So look the sort of a tale of two sides

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Speaker 9: krean economy shranked point three percent of December. It was

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Speaker 9: the steepest contraction since twenty twenty two. But so the

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Speaker 9: domestic economy is quite weak. But exports hit a record

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Speaker 9: seven hundred and nine billion. All about AI, Mike, familiar story.

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Speaker 9: See there's been some trade fictions to deal with. But

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Speaker 9: Seth Creer, they struck a deal with the US back

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Speaker 9: in November. It's investing a couple of one hundred and

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Speaker 9: the news shipbuilding. But yeah, AI demand surge twenty two percent,

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Speaker 9: so that really drove the exports. And yeah, the economy

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Speaker 9: might be a little bit sluggish overall, but the stock

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Speaker 9: market is certainly not so. The costly benchmark US to

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Speaker 9: say through five thousand for the first time, and lots

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Speaker 9: of markets had a good year last year, but none

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Speaker 9: more so than seuth Korea. Its stock market has doubled

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Speaker 9: over the past twelve months, so names like Samsung that's

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Speaker 9: There is always sort of trade I suppose concerns to

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Speaker 9: sort of be aware of. Trump's actually proposed to twenty

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Speaker 2: So he's got a point, hasn't he? And a very

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Speaker 2: good morning, Good morning, mikeel So two times they've lowered

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Speaker 13: But this ETS funding really helps, particularly our smaller scale

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Speaker 2: Exactly good to talk to you, Elizabeth Goough Well, doctor

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Speaker 2: all good news as well. And what really has been

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Speaker 2: Andrew Gwynn. This is significant, so he's a former Labor minister.

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Speaker 2: So Andy Burnham is the mayor of Manchester. A lot

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Speaker 2: Richard, how are you.

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Speaker 15: I'm doing well.

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Speaker 2: With this, well, we have a concept of a deal.

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Speaker 16: That idea. The concept of a plan is how Trump

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Speaker 1: It's a long.

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Speaker 16: This concept of a deal is said to have been

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Speaker 16: shaped in a meeting with NATO's Secretary General Mike Rutter,

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Speaker 16: who was pressed on the details by Fox News as well.

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Speaker 15: Here's how that went.

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Speaker 6: What I don't hear is Greenland and still is it

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Speaker 6: still under the Kingdom of Denmark in this framework deal.

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Speaker 8: That issue did not come up anymore in my conversation

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Speaker 8: for Mandress of Pleasant didn't.

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Speaker 16: Even talk about it. Denmark's Minister says Greenland sovereign, the

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Speaker 16: use quote non negotiable. What they are open to is

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Speaker 16: the Greenland being used as part of this so called

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Speaker 16: Golden Dome anti missile system kind of like Ronald Reagan's

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Speaker 16: Star Wars thing back in the day, and an extension

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Speaker 16: of US controlled military bases. But the US already has

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Speaker 16: basing rights in Greenland under an agreement reached in nineteen

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Speaker 16: fifty one. Folks, through NATO and the US had more

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Speaker 16: bases there in the past than they demolished them. So

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Speaker 16: is this anything other than the status quo? You have

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Speaker 16: to wonder. Meantime, the whole ruckets has brought many slurs

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Speaker 16: against the NATO allies, Trump himself referring four times, got

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Speaker 16: to love this to Greenland as Iceland.

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Speaker 3: Not there for us on Iceland, that I can tell

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Speaker 3: you mean, our stock market took the first dip yesterday

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Speaker 3: because of Iceland.

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Speaker 1: So Iceland's already crossed the Salada.

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Speaker 16: Greenland Iceland. You know they're both pretty cold, right. Trump

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Speaker 16: also told a room of German speakers at Davos that

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Speaker 16: without the US they would all be speaking German. His

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Speaker 16: Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant weighed in on Denmark, calling the

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Speaker 16: country and its ten billion dollar US investments quote irrelevant

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Speaker 16: Denmark because had the highest per capita death toll among

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Speaker 16: US led forces in Afghanistan. The Belgian PM said being

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Speaker 16: a happy vassal is one thing. Being a miserable slave

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Speaker 16: as something else. Canada's Marke Khney, who was in Beijing

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Speaker 16: last week brokering new trade deals, said, quote, let me

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Speaker 16: be direct, we are in the midst of a rupture,

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Speaker 16: not a transition. And this distancing from Europe was apparent

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Speaker 16: was the announcement of Trump's new so called border peace.

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Speaker 16: Apart from Hungary's dictator Victor Orban, there were no Europeans

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Speaker 16: at this event, which did draw Russian acolyte Belarus. France

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Speaker 16: and Norway and Sweden have said no thanks to paying

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Speaker 16: the one billion dollars that Trump is seeking as a fee.

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Speaker 16: So far, only one country has agreed potentially pay into

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Speaker 16: the Trump Fund. That is Russia and Vladimir Putin.

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Speaker 2: They tell me Marty's Supreme's pretty good, So the nods deserved.

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Speaker 16: I guess I think it was about half an hour

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Speaker 16: too long, but I'll I'll take the advice of some others.

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Speaker 16: The film industry, though, has been changing shape in recent years,

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Speaker 16: with the streaming becoming the norm of course, and movie

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Speaker 16: houses struggling ever since COVID. It's affecting the award shows

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Speaker 16: as well. Although the events starting the awards season, the

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Speaker 16: Palm Springs Film Festival that just wrapped up, drew some

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Speaker 16: pretty big crowds. They had one hundred and eighty films

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Speaker 16: on show. Also, the Academy Awards had a five year

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Speaker 16: viewership high last year almost twenty millionaires, hosted by Colonel O'Brien,

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Speaker 16: who is back again this time. Even so, they're shifting

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Speaker 16: to YouTube from twenty twenty nine, whatever that might bring.

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Speaker 16: As for this year, the horror movie Sinners, set in

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Speaker 16: Jim Crow Times, has set a record for the most

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Speaker 16: nominations ever sixteen, beating the mark set by All About

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Speaker 16: Even nineteen fifty one. Here is a clip from the movie.

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Speaker 1: I Ain't Never Seen nor demons.

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Speaker 16: Hang on to your seats though, nor ghos.

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Speaker 18: No man.

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Speaker 2: Teal now Yeah.

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Speaker 16: The Leo DiCaprio film came in second with thirteen nominations,

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Speaker 16: with the movie One Battle after another about rebellion in

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Speaker 16: an out of control police state. Wherever did they get

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Speaker 16: that idea? Mike Other Best Picture choices include The Muddy

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Speaker 16: Supreme with for Timothy Shallow May third Best Actor not

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Speaker 16: for him, and Hamlet, the Beautiful film about Shakespeare's Hamlet

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Speaker 16: and said around the loss of a charted star Jesse

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Speaker 16: Buckley has the best scream of the year. I'll spare

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Speaker 16: you from that, but she says when she first saw

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Speaker 16: the finished film, she was pregnant actually in real life,

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Speaker 16: and so it.

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Speaker 2: Was a complete mess.

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Speaker 10: I was like slobbery.

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Speaker 16: The Academy also has expanded it's over seas membership, so

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Speaker 16: there are many more international movies, including the Iranian revenge

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Speaker 16: film It was just an accident Now. I met up

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Speaker 16: with its director on a visit here the other day

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Speaker 16: and he said that in Irun there is a criminal case.

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Speaker 16: It's just been levied against him for speaking out against

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Speaker 16: the regime. If and when he returns to his home country,

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Speaker 16: and he insists he will go back to Iran, he

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Speaker 16: expects that we put in jail. So pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: You have a good week here, mate, Richard Donold states,

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Speaker 2: so I just before we leave that part of the will.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the Jack Smith interrogation is going on

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Speaker 2: as we speak. This is the second time he's had

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Speaker 2: to front up. This is all over Jacksmith, the special

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Speaker 2: prosecutor chasing Trump over the election. Of course, it's going

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Speaker 2: really well between the DIMS and the GOP. This is Reskin.

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Speaker 6: Lots of people on that side of the ile, including

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Speaker 6: my good friend the chairman, denounced the violence that took

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Speaker 6: place on January sixth.

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Speaker 2: The couts got their tongue these days.

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Speaker 14: My friend Chairman Jordan said what happened last week was terrible,

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Speaker 14: was tragic.

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Speaker 2: It's as wrong as wrong can be. He said, it's

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Speaker 2: as wrong as Republicans. We know all political violence is wrong. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Jim had this to say, Is.

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Speaker 1: You familiar with the name Tony Ornado?

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Speaker 10: Yes?

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Speaker 18: White House Deputy Chief of Operations, Deputy sup of Staff

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Speaker 18: for Operations.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 1: You remember what he said about.

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Speaker 2: It, as I said here right now, I do not.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, he said it didn't happen. How about Bobby Ingle.

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Speaker 18: Are you familiar with that name?

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Speaker 10: Yes?

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Speaker 18: I am Secret Service agent who was actually in the

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Speaker 18: car that day. You know what he said.

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Speaker 1: He said, it didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: It didn't happen. The only other thing I can tell you,

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Speaker 2: I can tell you a million different things about America

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Speaker 2: at the a one of notics of federal judge. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know the raid on the Washington Post and that

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Speaker 2: reporter and her phones and computers are federal judges stepped

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Speaker 2: in for now anyway and told the DOJ to stop

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Speaker 2: looking through her phone. So that's an update from the

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Speaker 2: courts of America. Nine to seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be rins from trade me for December. No change

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Speaker 2: for the year, ten dollars less than it was a

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Speaker 2: year ago. Meeting around the country of six twenty, big

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Speaker 2: losses around the place. Cheaper in Auckland three percent down

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Speaker 2: on the year, Hawks Bay three, Wellington seven point seven,

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Speaker 2: so it's tank good for the rent is not for

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Speaker 2: the landlord's three point three down in Nelson, Tasman south

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Speaker 2: from most of the country actually fell. The only people

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Speaker 2: who went up with Canterbury and Taranaki five to seven.

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Speaker 1: The ins are the outs. It's the fizz with business

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Speaker 1: tiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Weaking shopping and spending and money. December, what have we

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Speaker 2: got spending wise? December itself was down zero point one,

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Speaker 2: so I think we can call that flat. That's that's

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Speaker 2: no big change from November. November, of course, was gangbusters.

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Speaker 2: Core industry spending down zero point two month on month,

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Speaker 2: Apparel down three point six, crows not moving, consumables down

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Speaker 2: zero point one, durables down zero point one, So that's

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Speaker 2: flat for all intensive purposes non retail. So that's your

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Speaker 2: two arrangements, your curry as you travel, your health care

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Speaker 2: that's down one point four. Services down two point one,

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Speaker 2: so that's material bright spot hospit up one point four.

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Speaker 2: So we all had a beer and a sausage, so

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Speaker 2: that's good or a sausage roll. Total card spinning fell

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Speaker 2: by ninety seven million. Is that a lot? Not really,

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Speaker 2: because you know you're talking about billion overall, one hundred

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Speaker 2: and ninety five million transactions. This is on cards. Average

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Speaker 2: spent was fifty eight bucks a pop quarterly. Now that's

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Speaker 2: where we should be looking. So that gives you a

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Speaker 2: real trend. So for the quarter that's actually up, that's decent.

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Speaker 2: The December quarter was up half a point half a percent.

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Speaker 2: Apparel was the only category to go backwards, so that's

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Speaker 2: a problem. So you look to the edge and glass

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Speaker 2: and Talensteins, all that sort of stuff. For those numbers

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Speaker 2: when they come through throughout the year, So Mount Long

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Speaker 2: ANDUI will get the update. Mark Mitchell seems to have

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Speaker 2: spent his week on site, so I think at the

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Speaker 2: beginning of the week we started with them up north

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Speaker 2: and he's ended on the Mount, so we'll get the

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Speaker 2: updates in that situation for you. Inflation coming today a

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Speaker 2: big story of the year. Of course, the ACC turnaround.

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Speaker 2: I mean the numbers are I walk twenty six billion

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Speaker 2: dollars in debt and as I said at the start

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Speaker 2: of the show, they can get themselves out, just requires

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Speaker 2: a little bit of backbone and some fairly tough decision making.

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Speaker 2: So we'll have to talk about that. Tourism they're saying

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Speaker 2: this morning numbers are good, which they are last half full,

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Speaker 2: but we are still not back from COVID. Question is

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Speaker 2: will we ever be? Have we lost that particular battle?

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Speaker 2: More for you shortly.

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Speaker 1: Credible, compelling, the breakfast show you can't best. It's the

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate

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Speaker 1: differently Since nineteen seventy three, News togs had been welling.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven. Update for you from the Mount, we've

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Speaker 2: all seen the land movement in the frantic search. Of course,

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell is the Minister for Emergency Management and is

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Speaker 2: with us morning morning, Mike. Are we any closer this

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Speaker 2: morning to where we need to be?

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Speaker 19: Well, they will be closer because obviously they're working through

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Speaker 19: the night and they're you know that there's a lot

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Speaker 19: of earth that's come down, destroyed buildings, camp events and caravans,

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Speaker 19: so you know, and it's a it's a difficult and

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Speaker 19: challenging environment, but they're working as hard as they in

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Speaker 19: as fast as they can.

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Speaker 2: Any sort of timeline as to when we get to

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Speaker 2: where we need to be.

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Speaker 19: No, look, I haven't been given a timeline and they

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Speaker 19: just they'll just keep working and keep going until they've

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Speaker 19: recovered and got everyone out of there.

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Speaker 2: What's well the systems, the responses you've seen this week,

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Speaker 2: the delivery of help and when it was needed. Has

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Speaker 2: it worked? Is it working? Yeah?

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Speaker 19: It's been outstanding, you know, right from mayors and councils,

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Speaker 19: local cdium groups, community groups, EWE and HAPU. Of course

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Speaker 19: our first responders who are always outstanding. The best response

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Speaker 19: to these events as wholely community and we're getting better.

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Speaker 9: Is that better?

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Speaker 2: At that?

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Speaker 19: As a country and I've seen that. I've been up

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Speaker 19: and down the country the last week, and I've seen

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Speaker 19: that ex of bravery. Of course, we get tragedies like

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Speaker 19: this because unfortunately we've had so much weather and rain

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Speaker 19: that the ground had lost the ability to absorb anymore.

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Speaker 19: And that's why we've just seen a massive amount of

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Speaker 19: slips sort of right down our eastern seaboard reine.

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Speaker 2: Which brings me to the question. It seems to me

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Speaker 2: we've got two different stories, the mount story and obviously

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Speaker 2: papam Welcome Bay tragedy. So there's that, but then there's

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Speaker 2: that more general story that there are parts of this

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Speaker 2: country that you've got to start asking some serious questions

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Speaker 2: about how many people live there, how many roads a

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Speaker 2: we're going to repair, how long are we going to

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Speaker 2: do this for, and whether we need to get stuck

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Speaker 2: into a fairly serious conversation, don't you Yeah.

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Speaker 19: So that, yes, I agree, that's a much harder and

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Speaker 19: broader conversation that we had between central and local governments

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Speaker 19: and communities, because yes, you know, in inundation adaptation, I mean,

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Speaker 19: you know, those are all serious questions that we have

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Speaker 19: to ask and we have to be brave enough to

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Speaker 19: deal with there's quite at Simon Watts sort of hiding

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Speaker 19: up quite a bit of work around that. I'm supporting them,

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Speaker 19: and of course local governments have turned their mind to

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Speaker 19: that and they're doing a fair bit of work on

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Speaker 19: them as well.

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Speaker 2: But for today at the Mount, we simply have to

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Speaker 2: let them do their work and wait.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's very tough.

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Speaker 19: It's the obviously, you know, very somber mood. As I

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Speaker 19: was leaving you, I was talking to one of the

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Speaker 19: police officers that just broke down in tears that there's

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Speaker 19: a lot of emotion. Everyone is trying to wrap as

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Speaker 19: much support around the families as we can and try

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Speaker 19: and shoulder as much as we can with them because

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Speaker 19: as you can imagine, when you've got loved ones trapped

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Speaker 19: in a landslide, the way as.

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Speaker 2: Torturous indeed go well. I make appreciate it very much

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Speaker 2: and to pass on our best to all concern. Mark Mitchell,

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Speaker 2: who is in the bay. Of course, this morning ten

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Speaker 2: minutes past seven, I really started thinking about that question

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Speaker 2: yet again with State Highway too, and at some point

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Speaker 2: we're going to have to get serious in this country

681
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Speaker 2: about how many times we're going to be just park

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Speaker 2: up the tragedy aspect of it. But we're going to

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Speaker 2: have to ask ourselves some serious questions about in the rural,

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Speaker 2: remote parts of New Zealand, the infrastructural cost. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the marble sounds probably comes into that category. I think

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Speaker 2: back to Matatar for example. I mean, there are certain

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Speaker 2: parts of this country it's become increasingly clear we simply

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Speaker 2: can't afford to live in. But that's perhaps for another day. Right,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five inflation numbers, they're coming today in a

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Speaker 2: week that's actually been very good for our economy going forward.

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Speaker 2: Is inflation playing its part? Is it at least close

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Speaker 2: to being in that zero to three percent box? Mark

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Speaker 2: Smith as ASB Senior economist and as with us Mark morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike. RB has two point seven, so that'll

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Speaker 2: be a mess. You're on zero point six. So you're

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Speaker 2: seeing some heat here.

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Speaker 15: Slightly high. Yes, to be fair to the RBN said,

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Speaker 15: some December pricing data came out after they finished their

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Speaker 15: forecast and that was considerably stronger than expected and that

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Speaker 15: resulted in the market revising up their packs to around

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Speaker 15: three or three point one for the year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm reading about miles workman, you're mate today

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Speaker 2: and zid yesterday he's talking about accommodation, international travel. Was

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Speaker 2: that a surprise.

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Speaker 15: Some of those aspects were, Yes, accommodation particularly and international

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Speaker 15: air fairs. These are recently volatile. What we have been

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Speaker 15: seeing it late has been that inflation rate had been

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Speaker 15: sort of called by much lower sort of tradable goods

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Speaker 15: and services. Those things are now starting to turn around

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Speaker 15: a bit and that's contributing to pushing up that headline

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Speaker 15: and flash round.

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Speaker 20: A little bit.

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Speaker 2: The fun game, if you want to call it. That

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Speaker 2: is where the RB comes into this. So February's a

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Speaker 2: dead set hold. Fair to be fair, Yet Okay, when

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Speaker 2: do we start talking realistically about hikes or is that

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Speaker 2: way too soon?

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Speaker 15: I think probably a little soon, But again it's going

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Speaker 15: to be conditional on that inflation outlook. I think the

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Speaker 15: rbnz's view is that there's still a bit of spare

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Speaker 15: capacity in the economy and that should be sufficient to

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Speaker 15: push down domestic inflation, which can contribute to overall inflation

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Speaker 15: going closer to two percent on sort of over much

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Speaker 15: of the year. I think the issue that we have

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Speaker 15: is that there are still a lot of cost out

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Speaker 15: there Unfortunately. The treasure is we've just had. This means

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Speaker 15: more costs that have to be paid and those things

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Speaker 15: that are contributing to keeping inflation higher than it would

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Speaker 15: otherwise be. As well as that, we're starting to see

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Speaker 15: a lot more resilience in the New Zealand economy, which

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Speaker 15: is a great thing. The thing will be some of

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Speaker 15: those things that have been holding down domestic inflation rates,

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Speaker 15: for example, construction costs and rents, they might start to

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Speaker 15: turn around as well. So as a result, we might

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Speaker 15: see inflation posting three percent rather than two percent over

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Speaker 15: this year.

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Speaker 2: In Layman's terms. You bullish for twenty six or not.

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Speaker 15: Yes, we are. We put it at a piece earlier

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Speaker 15: in the year. We're very polish on the year. Yes,

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Speaker 15: it was a bit of a false signal last year.

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Speaker 15: We think that everything's pretty much lined up for a

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Speaker 15: very good year.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 15: What really needs to happen is, though, is that pricing

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Speaker 15: pressure that needs to remain contained if they can, and

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Speaker 15: that will result in it is they're keeping the official

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Speaker 15: cast rates for as low as they can be.

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Speaker 2: That's ope. So marke go Well Mark Smith, who's the

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Speaker 2: ASP senior economists thirteen pasted pasking how much wait am

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Speaker 2: I reading into the Courier Pole yesterday? None really, but

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Speaker 2: but will build up a picture of Poles throughout the year.

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Speaker 2: The reason I put no real weight in it is

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Speaker 2: because New Zealand first went up three point eight. New

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Speaker 2: Zealand first did not go up three point eight. Nothing

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Speaker 2: happened in the ensuing period between Poles for suddenly basically

756
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Speaker 2: a third of their entire support to suddenly materialize. That's

757
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Speaker 2: what's wrong with poles up one down one margin. Abera

758
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Speaker 2: fully understand it. But the broad picture is that the

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Speaker 2: incumbent government will remain incumbent, and that Labor, despite Chippy's

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Speaker 2: very best effort to have a go this week, needs

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Speaker 2: to look at the numbers and at sixty three seats

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Speaker 2: to fifty seven, he's the one who needs to convince

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Speaker 2: the rest of us that he needs another go or

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Speaker 2: deserves another go. Fourteen Past.

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Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

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Speaker 1: by News talks.

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Speaker 2: At be government. Books by the way, came out yesterday.

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Speaker 2: There's sort of that ongoing update. Things are better than

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Speaker 2: we thought, So I'll crunch you through a couple of

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Speaker 2: numbers when I get a chance, and I'll get back

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Speaker 2: to the storm video. You've seen the storm video of

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Speaker 2: the guy from the council watering the plant in the

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Speaker 2: middle of a rainstorm, seen by one and a half

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Speaker 2: million people. I've got a theory round that. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: more shortly now mackis they've got the big ticktoo over

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Speaker 2: the Golden Arches. This is the twenty four to seven operation.

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Speaker 2: This is in Wanaka. This time consent was granted and

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Speaker 2: this time through a non notified process. Now Quentin Smith

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Speaker 2: is the Deputy mayor of the Queenstown Lakes Council area.

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Speaker 2: In Quentin's with this morning mate, goody doing today, I'm

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Speaker 2: very well in Doe. A couple of questions off off Peace.

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Speaker 2: One of the too many empty houses in your region?

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Speaker 20: Almost certainly you know this certainly one of the feeders

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Speaker 20: of the housing affordability problem in our district for sure.

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Speaker 2: Right should I live at Millbrook?

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Speaker 20: Look? I mean, you know one of the things in

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Speaker 20: this country we have the choice to make those decisions.

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Speaker 20: I mean, it wouldn't be a place that I would

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Speaker 20: choose to live, but there's many people who choose chose.

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Speaker 2: There's just a couple of nice houses here, and I

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Speaker 2: was looking at one yester and now I thought, is

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Speaker 2: this a good life to be on a golf course? Anyway,

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Speaker 2: that's beside the point bat question.

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Speaker 20: They've got lovely golf course, that is true.

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Speaker 2: Where are you at with Macca's twenty four to seven

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Speaker 2: and wonaka?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, Look, it's been an interesting journey for us. And

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Speaker 20: obviously there has been a previous consent that got a

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Speaker 20: lot of attension and was subsequently declined by the commissioners.

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Speaker 20: Now that was primarily a Landy's decision. That was obviously

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Speaker 20: a commercial activity with you know, as you say, twenty

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Speaker 20: four hour operation and what was a rural zone and

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Speaker 20: it was adjacent to our you know, very important nine.

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Speaker 20: So yeah, the more recent application, the one that's just

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Speaker 20: been approved, is in a commercial area in what they

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Speaker 20: call the Three Parks Commercial Development, and it was in

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Speaker 20: a commercial zone. So I suppose it's.

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Speaker 2: They've done that first time round with they have not

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Speaker 2: had the hassle or is one it could full of

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Speaker 2: just a bunch of snobby nimbies.

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Speaker 20: No, look, definitely not a bunch of snobby nimbi's. I

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Speaker 20: think they probably would have been successful if they'd applied

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Speaker 20: for it in a commercial in one of the commercial

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Speaker 20: zones first time round. But look, there's a range of

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Speaker 20: reasons that people in the community opposed the original application.

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Speaker 20: Some of them relate to you know, fast food, health,

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Speaker 20: some of the right to the litter, and some of

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Speaker 20: them were visual impacts and land use matters that were

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Speaker 20: obviously the ones that were the planning matters that were relevant.

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Speaker 20: But look, I have a lot of sympathy one bechas

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Speaker 20: of rapidly changing places. It's moved from four thousand people

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Speaker 20: up to sort of nineteen thousand people since the time,

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Speaker 20: you know, in twenty years or so, and that's changing

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Speaker 20: very rapidly, and people struggle with the rate of change.

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Speaker 20: And some of the things some of the changes are good,

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Speaker 20: and some of them they don't want. They don't want

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Speaker 20: to say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff. Quentin, nice to talk to you appreciate

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Speaker 2: it very much, Quentin Smith. I'm actually struggling with a

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Speaker 2: change of Wanaka and I don't even live there. That's

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Speaker 2: why I asked Tony Brown, yes today when.

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Speaker 21: He was on the progress But come on, Tony Brown

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Speaker 21: would have been stoked to hear that one, because finally

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Speaker 21: getting a McDonald's names well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he would be Yeah, But I know people who

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Speaker 2: live in Wanaka on a part time basis, and even

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Speaker 2: they admitted quite openly to me that they are snobs

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Speaker 2: and they don't like McDonald's and they didn't want McDonald's

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Speaker 2: here in the first place. Mike, you would you be

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Speaker 2: considering purchasing the Michael Jones statue for the pull room? Well,

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Speaker 2: this is the point, Connell. If I bought in Millbrook,

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Speaker 2: there's plenty of room for a Michael Jones statue. So

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Speaker 2: I mean, join some dots to all coming together for

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Speaker 2: me the big picture planned. I don't know what the

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Speaker 2: big picture plan is, but you know it's just I

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Speaker 2: sit here occasionally just live on radio and just.

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Speaker 21: Could you put it and the drive through window of the.

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Speaker 2: McDonald's wouldn't that be funny?

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Speaker 21: And then Michael Jones is like literally serving your that's

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Speaker 21: too cool, you nuggets.

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Speaker 2: These are good thoughts. This is this is why the

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Speaker 2: show is so successful. There's a lot of blue sky

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00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: goes on, sort of random blue sky, but every now

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Speaker 2: and again, some of it's good.

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Speaker 1: Seven twenty the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: How of my news talk Zippy?

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Speaker 2: Now, let me tell you about Nevill Nibbles and the

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Speaker 2: Bay of Plenty, and he's a very good example of

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Speaker 2: why Resonate Health is so successful. So a competitor told Nevill, right,

860
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Speaker 2: you can't wear your hearing aids on your motorbike and

861
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Speaker 2: you shouldn't wear them a the lawn. So Neble thinks

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Speaker 2: to himself, well, hold on, when am I actually supposed

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Speaker 2: to wear these things at all? So he gave them back,

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Speaker 2: but then he saw an ad for Resonate Health, and

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Speaker 2: once he dealt with Resonate, he's not looked back, obviously,

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Speaker 2: because Resonate actually listened. So if he's got any issues,

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Speaker 2: he just jumps on the old bike, rides on over

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Speaker 2: and they sort it out on the spot. He says,

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Speaker 2: An infuriating mix of effective and insane. It's rare for

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Speaker 2: a single person to dominate news every day, all week,

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Speaker 3: Iceland's already costs us a lot of money?

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Speaker 2: Well was Iceland as Biden moment? No one called it out?

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Speaker 2: Can you threaten to invade a place whose name you

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Speaker 2: can't even remember? The Australian opposition zero. If Trump didn't exist,

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Speaker 2: A major political party in Australia literally fell apart in

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Speaker 2: front of everyone's eyes. Tony brown Ate Let's rug be

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Speaker 2: and Next Coaching, appeared on the show yesterday and set

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Speaker 2: the cat among the rugby union too.

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Speaker 15: Let's rugb and Nets coaching.

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Speaker 2: When you look at Razer and listen to Tony, where

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Speaker 2: do you reckon? The real issues are? Are the election date. Eight.

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Speaker 2: the battle of ideas, the captain of thrust, the pressure

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Speaker 2: of victory. I pay to watch. Actually the economy eight

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Speaker 2: picker category Manufacturing, Housing, confidence, wall, dairy services. All the

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Speaker 2: numbers are there, were off to the races, Anna Bremen

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Speaker 2: six the doctor v. Winston v. Nicholer. I side with her.

904
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Speaker 2: Actually she's either independent or she isn't. If we're not

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Speaker 2: at the table, we're on the menu. Seven.

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Speaker 21: We largely avoided calling out the gaps between rhetoric and reality.

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Speaker 2: This bargain no longer works. Not that it matters now,

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Speaker 2: of course, But Conney has the quote of the week

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Speaker 2: in my book, closely followed by Mark Mitchell on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Or the last those little ex.

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Speaker 2: Tennis.

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Speaker 10: Eight.

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Speaker 2: New research shows of all physical activity, nothing is better

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Speaker 2: than ten inness for longevity. People who play tennis lived

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Speaker 2: ten years longer. All's in your court, and that's the week.

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Speaker 2: Copies on the website, And if you get a copy,

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Speaker 2: turn it over and with a felt tip pen, write

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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of numbers, and then you can count

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Speaker 2: down each day until the kids go back to school.

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Speaker 2: Pasking Yeah, the government's books. Let's have a quick look

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Speaker 2: at those. What have we got excluding ABACC, which is

922
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Speaker 2: another one of a very grunt Robertson esque trick of

923
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Speaker 2: nicoler deficit to five point six Is that good? Well,

924
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Speaker 2: it's one point one billion dollars lower than outline, so

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Speaker 2: that's encouraging. Core tax take two hundred million lower at

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Speaker 2: forty nine billion, company tax three hundred million lower, GST

927
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Speaker 2: down a couple of hundred million, but it was offset

928
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Speaker 2: by the rise of other individual's tax revenue, state owned enterprises,

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Speaker 2: Crown entities, they earned more financial markets boosted, the value

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Speaker 2: of the super fun Crown speed exactually one point one

931
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Speaker 2: billion dollars lower, so they're spending less and earning more.

932
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Speaker 2: Net debt and there's the key, that's the critical number.

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Speaker 2: Net debt was nine hundred million lower than expected, still

934
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Speaker 2: at forty one point six percent of the total value

935
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Speaker 2: of economy, which is way too high. But things at

936
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Speaker 2: this stage anyway, it'll fluctuate, obviously, but things at the

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Speaker 2: stage anyway are looking better than they were, and in

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Speaker 2: that we will take Because the aforementioned acc have got

939
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Speaker 2: a gargentue whole twenty six billion dollars worth of debt

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Speaker 2: projected by twenty thirty. But they have a plan. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk to the head of ACC next.

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Speaker 1: There's no fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The Mic

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News,

944
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Speaker 1: togs head be.

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Speaker 2: Speak you through some of these tourism numbers. Headline things

946
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Speaker 2: were improving, so good, good good. Other headline that you

947
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Speaker 2: won't hear, unfortunately, is we're still not back to where

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Speaker 2: COVID was. So some numbers and the intimiicating after twenty

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Speaker 2: three to seven. A plan by ACC, as we've outlined

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Speaker 2: this morning, to dig themselves out of their fiscal hole.

951
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Speaker 2: Without change, they're going to be twenty six billion in

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Speaker 2: debt by twenty thirty, So focus on cracking down on

953
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Speaker 2: overpaid claims, moving people off scheme faster, tightening rules around

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Speaker 2: what's covered, et cetera. Meghan Maine is the a SEC's

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Speaker 2: chief executive and is back with us for the new year.

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Speaker 2: Megan Morning, Good morning, Mike. As a task, could I

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Speaker 2: use the word herculean or gargantuan? Would that be fair, Mike?

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Speaker 17: It's ambitious, you know. The turnaround plan would see us

959
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Speaker 17: getting back to a balance by twenty thirty between those

960
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Speaker 17: lifetime costs of injuries and the investments we've got. But

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Speaker 17: I think it's achievable. I believe it's achievable.

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Speaker 15: You know.

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Speaker 17: It's informed by the external review last year, it's informed

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Speaker 17: by our own modeling, it's informed by the experience of

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Speaker 17: our own people of what our best ever performance is.

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Speaker 17: And the other thing, Mike is it's already paying off.

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Speaker 17: We're already seeing the results. So that's what gives me confidence.

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Speaker 17: The thing I would say, though, is we're doing everything

969
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Speaker 17: we can, but we can't do this on our own.

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Speaker 17: And I think I spoke to you about this last time.

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Speaker 17: Everyone needs to play their part so that the scheme

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Speaker 17: is sustainable. It's providers, it's employers supporting people to work

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Speaker 17: at it, and it's injured people being really active in

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Speaker 17: their own recovery.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be unfair to a public broadcaster,

976
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Speaker 2: but I happen to hear an interview last year when

977
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Speaker 2: this thing was a topic again, And what the media

978
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Speaker 2: tend to do is they go find the poor schmuck

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Speaker 2: who's been on acc for twelve years, and he outlines

980
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Speaker 2: the endless problems he's gotten. How it's also unfair and

981
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Speaker 2: you're all a bunch of bastards. How many people do

982
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Speaker 2: you pay that really are milking the system?

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Speaker 17: Oh, Mike, you know, we've all heard the stories of

984
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Speaker 17: people who are taking advantage of acc and my message

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Speaker 17: is always it's not a victimless crime. We're all paying

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Speaker 17: for that. What we're doing is through our one to

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Speaker 17: W case management, more and more of that. We're having

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Speaker 17: those early conversations with people. We're making sure they're getting

989
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Speaker 17: the support they need, but we're also having a lot

990
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Speaker 17: more conversations where things are off track, where we need

991
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 17: to do assessments to see if people should still be

992
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Speaker 17: on the scheme. And so that's the way that we're

993
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Speaker 17: making sure that we're not taking away support from people

994
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Speaker 17: who really need it, but we're making sure people get

995
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Speaker 17: the right support for the injury that we should be funding.

996
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Speaker 17: That's really important.

997
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Speaker 2: Can I give you one example. I don't think it's

998
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Speaker 2: sort of the criticism of you because it comes to

999
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Speaker 2: the broad question how much of the equation here of

1000
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: what you're trying to do is the recipient milking the

1001
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Speaker 2: system versus you guys not providing what you should in

1002
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: a proper way.

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Speaker 17: Well, the thing in our control, MIC is our focus

1004
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 17: on doing our part of that. So we're having early

1005
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 17: conversations with people, we're strengthening our pro this is, we're

1006
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 17: doing more reviews. But as I say, we need to

1007
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 17: make sure that we're still able to give the support

1008
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 17: to people who genuinely need it. But I would say,

1009
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Speaker 17: you know, I would say to all New Zealanders that

1010
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Speaker 17: we really need people to do the right thing.

1011
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: Because the example I have of a person I know

1012
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: it was they wanted to get back to work. And

1013
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 2: I don't know how you solve this problem, but they

1014
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: wanted to get back to work. But your system operates

1015
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: on a way that that person must return to the

1016
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Speaker 2: work they were doing instead of going, Look, this injury

1017
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Speaker 2: is a bit of a problem that what you were

1018
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 2: doing you probably can't do for another six months. How

1019
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: about we point you in this direction somewhere knew where

1020
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: you can work. Do you see what I'm saying?

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00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 17: Yeah, And look, it's really hard to talk about individual cases,

1022
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 17: but I hear what you're saying, and we've got to

1023
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 17: make sure that we're putting that return to work at

1024
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 17: the center of the plan for someone's recovery.

1025
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the return to what work? Is that the

1026
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: specific work they were doing, and unless they can do

1027
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: that specific work, they'll never return to work potentially, or

1028
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: could you have a set of rules, regulations, whatever where

1029
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: you go. Look, all we're looking to do is to

1030
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 2: get you back to the workforce, or you can and

1031
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: you're allowed to.

1032
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Speaker 17: Do to talk about individual cases, because that's exactly what

1033
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 17: we should be doing. If someone can't return to their

1034
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 17: previous job, then we absolutely look to get them work

1035
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 17: ready for something else, right, And we're doing a lot

1036
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 17: of that at the moment. So it's hard to talk about.

1037
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 5: But does that work?

1038
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: Is that a successful approach?

1039
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 17: Well, our role is to get someone able to be

1040
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 17: independent enough to get back into the workforce, not to

1041
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 17: not to actually be responsible for them getting a different job.

1042
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting. That's because in the circumstance I'm giving you,

1043
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 2: that wasn't the case, That wasn't the message that was

1044
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Speaker 2: being sent by you people.

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Speaker 17: Well, I would encourage your contact to reach out to

1046
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 17: their case.

1047
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: They're better in their back of the workforce, and they

1048
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 2: couldn't kill they've all moved on. My other concern for you, Meghan,

1049
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 2: is how come so many of us are on a

1050
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: sec This is abnormal. I mean, two million claims a year.

1051
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, Michaeh.

1052
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 17: I know we've talked about this before, and I know

1053
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 17: you're one of our gold standard people without claims. You

1054
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 17: know a lot of those claims are very minor. We've

1055
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 17: got to remember that. You know, at any one time,

1056
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 17: of those two million, they are about one hundred thousands

1057
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 17: that we're actively managing.

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Speaker 9: Now.

1059
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Speaker 17: That is still a lot, and you know this comes

1060
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 17: back to having them take care. The big increase we're

1061
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 17: seeing in accidents and injuries is around the home and

1062
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 17: in the community. That's where it is very preventable, and

1063
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 17: we want people to stay safe. That's ultimately the best

1064
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 17: way that we all have this scheme fifty years into

1065
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 17: the future well and beyond.

1066
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Speaker 2: All I can do, Megan is wish you the best

1067
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,479
Speaker 2: of luck and we'll stay in touch, Meghan Maine, who's

1068
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Speaker 2: the acc chief Executor. But as I outlined on the

1069
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Speaker 2: program earlier on the number of people on long term

1070
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: claims is doubled. The cost of healthcare or providing that

1071
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: care each year over the past ten years has doubled.

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00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: So the population hasn't doubled yet the number of people

1073
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: on long term care. Has the cost of inflation or

1074
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 2: health or the cost of living hasn't doubled, and yet

1075
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: the cost of providing that care has. So that's where

1076
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Speaker 2: they start. I guess seventeen to two.

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Speaker 2: Mike, I think the GPS signing people onto ACC need

1081
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Speaker 2: to be looked at yes and no because they hand

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00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: out those forms with alacrity. You get oose as a

1083
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: GP reaching into your left hand drawer pulling out your forms.

1084
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: If you've ever been there, done that, when all you

1085
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 2: do is sit on your ass and talk shit, not

1086
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 2: much risk of needing ACC. MIC now ha ha there obviously,

1087
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 2: apart from being morally amusing, which you are and well done,

1088
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 2: congratulations on that. If I thought that I could take

1089
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 2: that to ACC, You've got no idea how much ACC

1090
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: I pay as a person who operates my own thing,

1091
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 2: and I pay thousands a year for ACC. So if

1092
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: I could personally just take this and go, look, why

1093
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 2: am I paying you guys? Because all I do is

1094
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: sit on my ass and quote unquote talk shit, and

1095
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: ACC then goes, oh, we didn't realize that, mister Hoskins,

1096
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: so we won't charge on thousands of dollars a year

1097
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: for it.

1098
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 21: You'll be laughing at the other side of your face

1099
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 21: when you come in here and trip over a bit

1100
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 21: of drop mints pie on the carpet.

1101
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: I reckoned Glen that after forty five years in this industry,

1102
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: the chances of that happening are increasingly slim because my

1103
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 2: movement's now contained.

1104
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 10: Of course.

1105
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 21: Yeah, but there is a lot more drop mins pie.

1106
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 2: Pie round here since teeth turned up. That's true. Okay,

1107
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: So to the video. I hadn't seen the video. I

1108
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 2: not on social media, but I saw the video once

1109
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: it became mainstream news yesterday. There's a video floating round.

1110
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: It's been seen by five one point five million people,

1111
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 2: and it's a guy from the council and he's watering

1112
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: a plant in the middle of the storms this week,

1113
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: and so everyone goes, why's the guy I'm wandering a

1114
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: plant in the million and what to do first? It's

1115
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 2: all that sort of social media stuff. Anyway, one of

1116
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 2: the councilors went and found out what was happening, and

1117
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: what was happening was sure enough that guy was you

1118
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: can't argue with it. He was going out wordering a

1119
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 2: plant in the middle of the storm, and the counter

1120
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: argument was that they have a contract. These companies are

1121
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: contracted to make sure the council planted trees stay alive. Now,

1122
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: once again, obvious question, why would you need to worry

1123
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 2: about a tree staying alive in the middle of a rainstorm.

1124
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: Fair question. So the culmination of the investigation concluded that yep,

1125
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 2: they probably shouldn't have been there in the middle of

1126
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 2: the rain. But the more important, the bigger picture, which

1127
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: is why I raised this is this is everything that's

1128
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 2: wrong with New Zealand, and it goes back to our

1129
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: vector story I told you about earlier on people on

1130
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 2: the end of the phone. No one's empowered anymore. And

1131
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 2: no one's empowered anymore, and I'm not sure whether it's

1132
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: checking or egg. No one wants to be in powered.

1133
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: No one wants to have any level of responsibility. No

1134
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: one wants to have any level of designation or No

1135
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 2: one wants to wake up in the morning and own it.

1136
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to do a better job. No one wants

1137
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: to think for themselves. No one wants to be invested

1138
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: in their work or their company or their output. They're

1139
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: just gormleous morons who go, oh, no, no one told me

1140
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 2: to do anything different, And that's why you're standing in

1141
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: the middle of the rain watering a plant. Because if

1142
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: you went up to that bloke and said, why are

1143
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: you standing in the middle of the rain watering a plant?

1144
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: You'd go that's what I do, isn't it. That's exactly

1145
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 2: what they'd say. And you go, did you think about

1146
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: maybe not doing that? And I go, no, I wasn't

1147
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: told to see, that's what's wrong with you.

1148
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 21: Whereas you could be standing in the middle of the

1149
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 21: rainstorm filling up a pool.

1150
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm just saying that's what's

1151
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: wrong with New Zealand. No one owns anything anymore. Next

1152
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: time you're on the phone to a vector or a

1153
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 2: company like that and you say, what can you do

1154
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 2: about it? The answer will be nothing. What do you

1155
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 2: know about it? The answer will be nothing. Can I

1156
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 2: talk to your team leader? The answer will be can

1157
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: I have an email for your team leader? The answer

1158
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: will be known. No one wants to own anything anymore

1159
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: because it's all too hard. Am I right or am

1160
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 2: I right?

1161
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: Team to waight the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita

1162
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: Retirement Communities News togs Head been.

1163
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: Light seven away from a quick word around the tourism.

1164
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 2: Good economic news this week, plenty of it and the tourism

1165
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: numbers add to that. I think three point four eight

1166
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 2: million arrivals. That's up two hundred and fourteen thousy do

1167
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: last year, highest level since March of twenty twenty. They're

1168
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 2: coming from the States, Asia, Europe, China, all up, up,

1169
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 2: up and up. Grant Webster's the chief executive, of course,

1170
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 2: of Tourism Holdings Limited, and it's back with us. Grant Morning,

1171
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 2: good morning. Do you see it?

1172
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 12: Absolutely yep, and I think there's more to come. January

1173
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 12: February are going to be even better than what we've

1174
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 12: just seen released for November.

1175
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 2: So is your story this year? Are you still a

1176
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: bit train seasonal because the idea is that we're just

1177
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: busy all year round, or do you see it busy

1178
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: all year round?

1179
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 12: I know we're very very seasonal, and I think that's

1180
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 12: the next thing for us to continue to look at.

1181
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 12: You know, funding, seasons and regions are the three things

1182
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 12: that I would say the next big strategic things because

1183
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 12: the whole comparison to pre COVID, we're just about over that.

1184
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: So while I was going to say what should I be,

1185
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 2: Should I be optimistic that I like these numbers, or

1186
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 2: should I go but hold on, we're still below COVID.

1187
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 12: Yeah, so the below COVID thing is going to fix

1188
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 12: itself this calendar year or in the next twelve months, right,

1189
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 12: So that's naturally happening. But with the extra funding that

1190
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 12: tourism New Zealand's got. The other benefit that we're going

1191
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 12: to remember is that the US people going to the

1192
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 12: US is a disaster at the moment, that's still really

1193
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 12: poor and we're all benefiting from that Canada, Australia and

1194
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 12: it course ourselves. So you know that might not be

1195
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 12: the case forever. So we've got to keep competing.

1196
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: How real is our dollar problem? Which becomes a good

1197
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: thing for them?

1198
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 12: Well, it is a good thing for the US traveling

1199
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 12: here obviously, that's part of what's what's improving us right

1200
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 12: at the moment. So yeah, we're a good, well priced

1201
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 12: destination of this point in time. Let's make the most

1202
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 12: of it.

1203
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 2: And does that make that? I mean, if I turn

1204
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: a forty two p into a dollar I mean that

1205
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: has to be material, doesn't it.

1206
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 12: Yeah, it is. It makes a difference with what people

1207
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 12: spend on the ground. I think I've said this before,

1208
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 12: not necessarily where people want to travel, it does to

1209
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 12: a degree, but they spend more when they're here, they

1210
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 12: do more activities, so they do more expensive activities.

1211
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: The negative always tell me we're expensive, which I think

1212
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 2: we are, but surely that's counteracted by the our dollar

1213
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 2: at the moment. I mean, we must seem cheap, mustn't we.

1214
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 12: It's look, it's all relative right to different destinations. Where

1215
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 12: a long haul destination which makes us it puts us

1216
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 12: in the high value category. But that's fine. It's still

1217
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 12: on a relative basis where we're cheaper than what we've been.

1218
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 2: Right are those campaigns I've talked to people like Louise

1219
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 2: Upston working now, the regional campaigns Australia campaigns.

1220
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 12: They work absolutely, working, working well. They need to continue

1221
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 12: to be funded.

1222
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 2: Right And the number this morning I heard somewhere one

1223
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: million have gone to Queenstown is that too many? Are

1224
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 2: we all queens Town esque? And we need to be elsewhere?

1225
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,439
Speaker 12: Look, yeah, so as I said, funding seasons regions, so yeah,

1226
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 12: good opportunity to keep spreading it around. But Queenstown getting

1227
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 12: those kind of numbers doesn't mean that we should sort

1228
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 12: of stop tourism or pull back in any way. Let's

1229
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 12: just keep going because it's driving jobs. That's what we

1230
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 12: need we do.

1231
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: Indeed, Grant and us to catch up again. Grant Webster,

1232
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 2: the chief executive Tourism Holdings. By the way, I don't

1233
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 2: have time at the moment, but I did want to

1234
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 2: ask the question with the All Blacks playing South Africa

1235
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 2: and Baltimore, can you see it? And they're going there

1236
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: for the money? I mean, what is Baltimore want? I

1237
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: want to go watch South have Who play? But I

1238
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: mean there's expats and all that. So it's a thing.

1239
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: It's a financial thing for the New Zealand Rugby Union.

1240
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: When it is a thing for the New Zealand Rugby Union,

1241
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: how long before we don't actually have any tests left

1242
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: in New Zealand because you've got the Northern Tour and

1243
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 2: we're just going to go play all our rugby in

1244
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: America because if you go do that, that's where the

1245
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 2: money is. You see a trend building here. I mean

1246
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: Chicago I sort of got and now suddenly it's Baltimore.

1247
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: This this seems to me anyway more. Later, Tim and

1248
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 2: Katie after the.

1249
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: News, asking the questions others won't the mic asking breakfast

1250
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: with the Defender, embraced the impossible news togs that'd be.

1251
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 21: Before you can turn around.

1252
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 2: This guy has been around forever. James Hunter and the

1253
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 2: Heart James Hunter six. The album is Off the Fence.

1254
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: This is his debut album on Dan al Bach's Easy

1255
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 2: Eye Sound. Because you've been there for the last thirteen

1256
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:44,959
Speaker 2: years with daptone left Daptone amicable apparently so I heard.

1257
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 2: He possesses a sound and production m O modus operando

1258
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: there has remained the same for forty years. Very very

1259
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 2: similar to me.

1260
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 18: We won't.

1261
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: He's a record collector since the age of nine. Freakily

1262
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 2: similar to me. Real write songs, seeped, invinted, soul, rhythm

1263
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: and blues, mumbo rumba and jump.

1264
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 21: So if you did a duet with Van Morrison, but

1265
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 21: it sound a bit.

1266
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 2: Later, very much like this me and Van I have

1267
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 2: for you this morning from the James Hunter six, Off

1268
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: the Fence. I have twelve tracks and those twelve tracks

1269
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 2: will listen. They will last for thirty nine minutes and

1270
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 2: fourteen seven seconds.

1271
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: A week in review with two degrees, fighting for fair

1272
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: for Kiwi business.

1273
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: Hard to believe two degrees is back forth, isn't it?

1274
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 2: God bless them? Um. Tim Wilson, good morning to.

1275
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 5: You and happy good morning, Kate Hawksby, good morning.

1276
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: Good morning to you, and happy new year.

1277
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 22: Yea, and thank you to two degrees?

1278
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 18: What?

1279
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 2: Thank what? M Kate Hawksby? Are you holding the phone

1280
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 2: in currently?

1281
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 23: This is so embarrassing, especially after your acc chat. I'm

1282
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 23: not on my left which is I know where you're

1283
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 23: going with this, which is not the one that will

1284
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 23: be very soon festooned with an elbow brace exactly for

1285
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 23: my tennis elbow.

1286
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 5: This a pickleball injury, A cliche.

1287
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 22: I'm do you know pickall? I was like, this sport

1288
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 22: everyone's got like knee brace's elbow braces.

1289
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 5: How can you be that injured?

1290
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 22: And sure enough.

1291
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 13: Here I am.

1292
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 2: You're injured. Although to be we must say immediately not

1293
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 2: on a CC.

1294
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 5: No, No, you wouldn't permit that, correct.

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Speaker 22: Well, I don't well, I don't know that this isn't

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Speaker 22: an injury. This is an injury.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, I know it isn't a CC.

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Speaker 21: Okay, So yep.

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Speaker 5: So when you're at this myself, when you're at.

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Speaker 2: The physiotherapist yesterday, did you whip out the acc former

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Speaker 2: did you pay cash?

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Speaker 22: I paid, well, I paid what a lot because I

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Speaker 22: also had to purchase an elbow brace. But I'm pretty

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Speaker 22: sure it's acc She actually.

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Speaker 5: Hold the line on this.

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Speaker 24: He did this to me when I broke my rest

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Speaker 24: last year. It's like, ah, I'm not paying for this,

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Speaker 24: am I?

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Speaker 9: You know?

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Speaker 24: On acc are you? I don't pay for your blooming taxi?

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Speaker 24: Actually it's an uber and no you didn't, and just

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Speaker 24: hold the line.

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Speaker 14: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Having said that, well, this is the interesting thing because

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Speaker 2: the good story about your physiotherapy yesterday was we we

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Speaker 2: met a newsic. Well we I wasn't there, but you

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Speaker 2: met a New Zealander who had come back from Britain.

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Speaker 2: So the reverse migration thing is on, isn't it.

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Speaker 22: Well, yeah, she had been living in London for two

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Speaker 22: years and she did say she's come back to find

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01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 22: everyone's gone, everyone's She had more friends over there, you know,

1322
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 22: more Kiwis are in London.

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Speaker 2: That felt like, yeah, but she's just an early adapter

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Speaker 2: on a trend icy building, all right, So I need

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Speaker 2: to talk to you later about that a sec because

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Speaker 2: I think we're embarrassing ourselves now if we're tapping into

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Speaker 2: the taxpayer funded system.

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Speaker 22: Well I'm not embarrass I mean, you pay a fortune

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Speaker 22: in ac so you need.

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Speaker 15: Someone like me.

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Speaker 2: Your your injury, though, Tims, it was a good point

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Speaker 2: and I remember that very well. So and this is

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Speaker 2: what I was trying to talk to Megan Maine about

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Speaker 2: from the a CC. So, so you can do a

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Speaker 2: lot of different things. I mean, because you're a talented individual.

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Speaker 2: Did the fact that your wrist was broken prevent you

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Speaker 2: from going back to work because your work is not

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Speaker 2: requiring of a wrist?

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Speaker 5: Well that's but the other thing was it was the

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Speaker 5: right wrist.

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Speaker 24: I'm left handed, on the opposite of Kate, so it

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Speaker 24: was a convenient injury.

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Speaker 2: Let's put it that way exactly. Hey, Sammy, Sammy is

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Speaker 2: getting married. More important?

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Speaker 5: This is so exciting, huge, is wonderful?

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Speaker 2: Is it really exciting?

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Speaker 22: Lover over the holidays?

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Speaker 2: Caught it by surprise, she said, you'll have a surprise.

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Speaker 2: She was only in for a good time. That was

1350
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: why the surprise. She was in it for a good time.

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Speaker 2: If she were taking it seriously. I had a word

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01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: with the other day. She goes, I wasn't taking it

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01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: remotely seriously. He's just there for a good time, And

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Speaker 2: then suddenly pops the question after.

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Speaker 5: A listen, as I'll tell you what, Mike.

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Speaker 24: As the beneficiary of the wonderful institution of marriage, yourself,

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Speaker 24: you should be very glad about that.

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Speaker 2: Oh look, I just know that I couldn't agree with

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Speaker 2: you more, Tim, I couldn't agree with you more. But

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Speaker 2: here is my concern. It's it's it's quality of choice,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. He is boxing, he is boxing so far

1362
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 2: out of his weight. It's that's what I worry again,

1363
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Speaker 2: just like you. It's precise, just like you, precise, just

1364
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 2: like you, just like me. But at some point, Tim,

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Speaker 2: that's the thing. In my case, boxing so far about

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01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 2: my way, I become a pity case, don't I? And

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01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 2: it's sort of all too late.

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Speaker 5: Well, actually, yeah, isn't he not a little bit?

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Speaker 22: No, he's Are you celebrating fourteen years of marriage this weekend?

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Speaker 2: Oh fantastic, are we?

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Speaker 22: So there you go?

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Speaker 24: There's you know what, Oh, I've got I've got just

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Speaker 24: just the fourteen year anniversary gift, which is, let's do that.

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Speaker 2: After the well, Okay, so you're now throwing to the

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Speaker 2: break on. Let's I'm sorry, Tim, no, so whoa, let's

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01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 2: do that after the break thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News.

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Speaker 2: Talks a B sixteen past eight the Weekend Review with

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Speaker 2: two degrees bringing smart business solutions to the table. Just

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Speaker 2: for clarification, say, it's not that I'm not excited about

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Speaker 2: our anniversary on Sunday, because I am.

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Speaker 5: It was didn't sound no pretty lay, it.

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Speaker 2: Was lame, and I apologize for that because you know

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Speaker 2: I love you and I love us and all that

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Speaker 2: sort of thing. But it is my birthday on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 22: So you wanted you wanted to sorry, the main hitter I.

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Speaker 2: Needed to be your birthday. It was if there was

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Speaker 2: a crisccendo to be head over the weekend. I was

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Speaker 2: anticipating it being my birthday. Good thing, Now this was

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Speaker 2: the question.

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Speaker 12: Tim.

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Speaker 2: Let me come back to the present in just a moment.

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Speaker 2: But I do need to get this out of the way.

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Speaker 2: Good things. Sam picked up his wedding suit and hoy

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Speaker 2: and the dog again, can we not sorry? She put

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Speaker 2: me on hold as well. It's that it's unbelievable, good things.

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Speaker 2: Sam picked up his wedding suit and hoyan, I don't

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Speaker 2: think to be fear. It's his wedding suit. And this

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Speaker 2: is the question I need to ask you, Tim, because

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Speaker 2: it's Burgundy, and firstly, no one gets married in Burgundy,

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01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 2: but more unless it's the region. But the more important question,

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Speaker 2: he is not getting married until twenty seven twenty eight.

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01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 2: What come good question, because that's just you don't know. No, no, no, no,

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01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 2: that's exactly what you do. He claims everywhere is booked

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Speaker 2: out everyone.

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Speaker 5: What do you mean we're everywhere? Just find somewhere else

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Speaker 5: get married.

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Speaker 2: That's what Jason said. Jason said, good times, you know,

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Speaker 2: get into it now, now's the time. But twenty seven

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Speaker 2: twenty eight, somebody was a glen. You said, get married

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Speaker 2: on a Monday evening. Get married on a Monday night,

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Speaker 2: and you can't go wrong because everywhere's available on a

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Speaker 2: Monday night. Good advice, Yeah, good advice, but no, no,

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Speaker 2: no engagements. Forget about it. I get into it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think, I mean, I don't want to get give

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Speaker 2: too much away, but personal I think it was she

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01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 2: who wanted the thin the thinking time. I don't who

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01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 2: wanted to think she wanted the thinking time put it

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01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 2: that way, she said, Yes, I'm led to believe the

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Speaker 2: prenup is quite complicated. That's all I'll say. That's pointing there.

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Speaker 21: Anything about the color of seats in it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly, don't don't turn up an embarrassing burgundy suit.

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01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,799
Speaker 2: A CC Mike doesn't cover tennis elbows a sports injury.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for that, But you're wrong. As long as

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Speaker 2: it's defined as an accident, it does. So you're okay there, Katie,

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Speaker 2: Can I just quickly get this out of the way.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people texting about your instagram apparently not

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Speaker 2: on Instagram? Is that correct?

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Speaker 22: That's right.

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Speaker 17: I'm having a break.

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Speaker 2: Okay. How long is it lasting for this? It's just

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Speaker 2: I'm taking You.

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01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 13: Can do is get offline and so so so refreshing.

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Speaker 14: I don't know that I'll be back.

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Speaker 2: It's just so lovely to be okay. Well, that's good.

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01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 2: That's well. Disappointed, brother, fantastic disappointing, right, tim The gift?

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01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 2: What have you got for me or us?

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Speaker 24: All right, all right, this is the present that you

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01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 24: actually and it could be for you. It could be

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01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 24: for you and your bride. You get one each general

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01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 24: or specific what this is a specific thing. This is

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01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 24: a pump action salt gun to shoot flies. It's called

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01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 24: salt gun table salt. Yeah, you put it on your eggs.

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01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 10: No you don't.

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Speaker 5: You put it in a pump action shotgun and you

1448
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 5: stalk flies in your in the gun with in the

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Speaker 5: gun and you hang on. I'm just gonna I've got here.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna load it.

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Speaker 20: Listen.

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01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that the loading. I didn't hear you shoot the trigger? Shoot?

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01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 16: Here we go.

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01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,799
Speaker 5: I'm s pull the trigger on this puppy.

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01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 10: Here we go.

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01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 5: Did you hear that?

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01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 2: Now that sounded limp, Well it sounds I'm not speaker.

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01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 2: Sounded like a lot of salt flying through the air.

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01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 2: Did you to fly?

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Speaker 24: We've got dale, but you got I could see case.

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Speaker 24: Not on social media anymore. You're at a bit of

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01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 24: a loose end. You guys, go hunt the couple.

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01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 2: Where do you get one from? Because this childish as

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01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 2: it may seem, it actually appeals to me.

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01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 5: Oh and here's the deal.

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01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 2: Get this.

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01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 24: This is the salt gun of the twenty first century

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01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 24: because it comes with a laser sight, so the red

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Speaker 24: dot goes on the fly.

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Speaker 2: How far does the salt of how far does the

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Speaker 2: salt fly?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 5: It flies. You've got to get up close, so you've

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01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 5: got to get close.

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01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 2: But closer than close enough for the fly to fly

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01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,719
Speaker 2: away and there for the whole thing to be pointless.

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01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no, I've.

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01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 5: Blasted more flies than you've had hot dinners with.

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Speaker 2: Seriously, does it take one shot or lot?

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01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 5: Will you just pump out?

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01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 2: You just do you want me to do?

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01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 10: Pump?

1483
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 2: Can you go ban bang bang with it?

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01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 10: Okay?

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01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 5: Three in all right, just a minute, here we go, load.

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01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:03,839
Speaker 12: Bank bang.

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01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 21: You got it.

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Speaker 5: There wasn't a limp, was it. This is so republican,

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Speaker 5: this whole thing, and it comes.

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Speaker 24: It comes with a subscription to the Nralayed on Joe

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01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 24: Rogan before you know it?

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01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 2: Right, quick call because I got to wrap this up

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Speaker 2: to the text, by the way, hold on. Finally, my

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Speaker 2: favorite segment, returns do not disappoint No.

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Speaker 21: Pressure should read that out earlier exactly.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're happy.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, guys, for the books.

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Speaker 2: For the books. Call the election, Kate, call the election

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's so cruel and hard. You can't do that

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01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 5: to me.

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Speaker 22: Gosh, I don't know because I think we're more MMP

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01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 22: than ever before. So I think it's going to be

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01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 22: our low numbers for everybody, and it's going to be

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01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 22: a big, big dance, like you know, like it is

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Speaker 22: every time.

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01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 2: Low numbers for everybody, but a big dance.

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Speaker 22: I can't see Auckland voting labor back, I'll say that.

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Speaker 15: So I'm an Aucklander.

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Speaker 22: So from where I sit, the vibe here is that

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Speaker 22: they're not welcome back at the table at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, because I'll be asking this one. I'll be

1514
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 2: asking this on a semi regular basis, and we'll put

1515
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 2: it all together as a record of how astute an

1516
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: electoral commentator you are. Tim Your call now is what? Yeah, look, I.

1517
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 5: Don't see a change.

1518
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 24: But in that Curier poll, forty nine percent said the

1519
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 24: country's going in the wrong direction. So there's that there's

1520
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 24: some trouble there and.

1521
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 5: There for the for the coalition.

1522
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Speaker 2: Okay, So no one wants to say the government will

1523
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Speaker 2: get re elected or won't get re elected yet.

1524
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Speaker 22: No, No, I think it depends how it plays out economically.

1525
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Speaker 2: Tell this for you goes Yep, that would be correct, Katie,

1526
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Speaker 2: so so far Verry sofa is safe. I can just

1527
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Speaker 2: let's just say that.

1528
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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what very safe, but the flies aren't safe.

1529
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Speaker 2: Take a listen one more go on. Actually got bitter

1530
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Speaker 2: the more I've listened to it. This is pathetic. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for that, you guys, go well, Kay Hawksby and

1532
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Speaker 2: Tim Wilson. It is a twenty two stop.

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Speaker 2: or gold jewelry. I've decided to get an elephant shot

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Speaker 2: and we'll get the ivory from that and makes it

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Speaker 2: something nice out of it.

1553
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Speaker 21: Might as you say, well, what's that elephant in the room?

1554
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 2: And if you're happy anniversary Darling magic having you all back,

1555
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 2: Fridays are not the same without you three of us.

1556
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 2: Very nice fly guns are great, Mike, How did Mike

1557
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 2: not know about salt Gun's fair question? Mike saved Barn?

1558
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 2: So salt guns? Can I just say something that make

1559
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 2: it make me even more disconnected? I've never heard of

1560
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 2: save Barn? Is that another thing? So I've never heard

1561
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 2: of salt guns. I've never heard of save Barn? So

1562
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 2: what's going on there? Mike? Makes me laugh? But people

1563
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 2: abuse you and other ZB people and complain about the

1564
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 2: way they run the show. What's going on there? Other

1565
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 2: ZB people complain about the way I run the show,

1566
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,600
Speaker 2: but they still listen. Love your show, including the craziness

1567
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 2: of you three on Friday. Very refreshing. Happy anniversary too.

1568
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 2: You're very kindly gay, Thank you so much for that.

1569
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 2: The politics of Australia this week have been gob smacking

1570
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 2: literally the coalition has fallen apart, well, you could say

1571
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 2: if you follow it closely again, because they've fell apart

1572
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 2: after the last election, but they've fallen apart good proper

1573
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,759
Speaker 2: this time. It's been incredible. Murray Olds is but moments

1574
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:05,719
Speaker 2: away hearing the news talks here.

1575
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 1: Opinion edit informed, unapologetic, the mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's

1576
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: real Estate doing real estate differently since nineteen seventy three

1577
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 1: news talks.

1578
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 2: He'd be if you're not up on it, I should

1579
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 2: have mentioned it earlier. There's a meeting today between Putin

1580
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 2: and Witkoff and co. I think Kushion is there as well,

1581
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 2: but Witkoff and Putin and it's all on the table.

1582
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 2: Apparently land deals one of the last remaining obstacles. Apparently

1583
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 2: that's on the table. They claim there's been a lot

1584
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 2: of progress in the last six to eight weeks. None

1585
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 2: of us have seen it, of course, but we wish

1586
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 2: them all the very best for that. It is twenty

1587
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 2: three minutes away from nine.

1588
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, peace of mind

1589
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

1590
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 2: We all make Murray Olds as well.

1591
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 10: To tell you, ma'am happening to Michael, very good morning

1592
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 10: to you. Pretty good over here, and boy oh boy,

1593
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 10: there's been a lot of news happening over what's supposed

1594
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 10: to be a quiet.

1595
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 2: Chime of news exactly this week with a great deal

1596
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 2: of interest. Let me come to that in just a

1597
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 2: couple of moments. First, I have correspondence from Chris who

1598
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 2: was on the Sunshine Coast in Queensland. He's a key

1599
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 2: we living there for twenty years, still listens to Zbe

1600
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 2: from time to time. Right to me this morning. I

1601
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 2: just want your input on this as to whether he's

1602
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 2: right and whether I should invest some time in what

1603
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 2: he suggests. Get a Mike. As a fan of Australian

1604
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 2: media slash Current Affairs, you should download the ABC listen app.

1605
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 2: He likes Afternoons with Catherine Kat Feeney. Now she any good.

1606
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 10: I'm not familiar with Kat's work. She's on the ABC

1607
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 10: in the afternoon. She's bound to be pretty good.

1608
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 2: Okay, truth the way we look truth. Okay, Well, it

1609
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 2: doesn't feel good to me, and you've never heard of hers.

1610
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 2: So so far not so good. But then he comes

1611
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 2: to this part. He goes the two Murrays, the two

1612
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 2: Murrays on four BC Brisbane or two GB and Sydney.

1613
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 2: Good listen on the weekends. Great banter.

1614
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 10: Is that true? I'm loving this. What's his name? I'm

1615
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 10: going to send him a big I'm ap to send

1616
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 10: him a prize, Christ and.

1617
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 2: The Sunshine Coast. I would guess he's in Maruchi Oral

1618
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 2: Malula Bar.

1619
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 10: Well, that's very kind of and that's very very nice.

1620
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 10: Thank you so much. All Right, I love less talk about.

1621
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 2: Can I ask you this question because I think I

1622
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 2: can go quite quite in depth about it. Yesterday give

1623
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 2: them the coalition fell apart just after the election, but

1624
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 2: then they put it back together again. Was what happened

1625
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 2: this week in the complete collapse a direct connection to

1626
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 2: the election, or was this in and of itself a

1627
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 2: thing that would have blown them apart even if after

1628
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 2: the election had never happened.

1629
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 10: Well, it's a good question. I think what happened after

1630
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 10: the election, right? I mean? David Little Proud detests Susan Lee.

1631
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 10: She is a Liberal who holds the country seat. Her

1632
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 10: seat is faraugh. She's been there for a quarter of

1633
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,560
Speaker 10: a century and under the old agreement, the Nationals and

1634
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 10: the Liberal Party would never run against each other. So

1635
01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:00,879
Speaker 10: Susan Lee has been occupying a absolute blue ribbon country

1636
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 10: Liberal seat and the Nationals would like nothing more than

1637
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 10: to get rid of her and get a National person

1638
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 10: in there. Personally, Apparently I know nothing about this firsthand,

1639
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 10: but we understand out of Cambri David Little Proud can't

1640
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 10: stand Susan Lee. And what happened after the first little

1641
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 10: ruckus the Fraca that led to the split of the

1642
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 10: coalition for a week. They put a band aid on it, Mike,

1643
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 10: that's the best way you can describe it. And this

1644
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 10: was always going to happen. This has been coming for

1645
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 10: a long time, and ever since Susan Lee was elected

1646
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 10: as the first female leader of the Liberal Party. And

1647
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,520
Speaker 10: you don't throw over someone like with that sort of credential,

1648
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 10: the first female I mean say it slightly because the

1649
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 10: Liberal Party's ever been there before. And look, she hasn't

1650
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 10: performed particularly well, but she knows the reality. And you

1651
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 10: don't govern in Australia from the far right, you don't

1652
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 10: fall enhance will never form government and all these people

1653
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 10: who were bailing out from the Liberal Party saying they're

1654
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 10: just Labor light, they are looking for a home. And

1655
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 10: look at the last figures, Pauline Hansen actually outrates the

1656
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 10: coalition over here and that's never happened before in the

1657
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 10: last poll. I know, I was just going to say, so,

1658
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 10: Susan Lee is disappointed so many people on so many fronts.

1659
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 10: She hasn't been able to take the fight to Robin

1660
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 10: Easy and the Labor government. They are riding high and

1661
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 10: with the margin that he's got, the parliamentary margin he's got.

1662
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 10: No wonder Albanezi was smug and complacent and you know,

1663
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 10: just sitting on his hands for this entire term so far.

1664
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 2: Exactly so that you raised the point I was going

1665
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 2: to raise in the moment. More importantly, let me ask

1666
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 2: you this, both Lee and Little Proud, I'm assuming for

1667
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 2: the gun, are they and will they both go one go,

1668
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 2: no go? What happens?

1669
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 10: Well, look, they're both not Neither is well liked within

1670
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 10: their own parties, certainly by the conservative elements in those parties.

1671
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 10: The National Party, they have Little Proud apparently, you know,

1672
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 10: he's he's as weak, you know, he's as weak as anything,

1673
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 10: weak as water in there. I mean his supporters will say,

1674
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 10: oh no, no, he's a good leader. I mean he's look,

1675
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 10: he says, he's he's like vanilla custard. Right, do something,

1676
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 10: do something, sport, stand up for the bush. Oh I am,

1677
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 10: I'm blowing up the coalition. That's not pretty good, mate.

1678
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 10: Because and as for Susan Lee, you've got these sharks

1679
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 10: circling like Andrew Hasty and what's his name? Got no

1680
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 10: Canniban camp because he's in the Nationals in the Senate.

1681
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 10: Who's the other guy, Angus Taylor. Angus Taylor is like

1682
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 10: a He's like a shark, just circling around. He's got

1683
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 10: his own bunch of supporters. But he was exposed bay

1684
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 10: be exposed in the run up the last election that

1685
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 10: was catastrophic for the Conservatives of the year. He was

1686
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 10: Dunton's shadow treasurer. Well, he was absolutely bloody hopeless, had

1687
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 10: no policy, nothing to say. And if he's the leader,

1688
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 10: will hel they be rubbing his hands together again. So

1689
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 10: are they both gone? Lee and little Proud? Well they

1690
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 10: probably are. Certainly Susan Lee is gone. I suspect And

1691
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 10: there's any number of men conservative men in there who

1692
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 10: have put their hands up. But boy, boy, whoever wants it.

1693
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 2: It's amazing, big, big job. But here's the thing. Can

1694
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 2: is it possible that at an next election, because you

1695
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 2: can't not have an opposition? And if the Libs are

1696
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 2: the big of the party of the three and therefore

1697
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 2: they are technically the opposition, but if they can never

1698
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 2: form government, could they be a minority potentially? Could they

1699
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 2: potentially be a minority government and help get the help

1700
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 2: they need the same way Labor gets their help sometimes

1701
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 2: with independence, et cetera, and run the country that way

1702
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 2: or no.

1703
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 10: It's such a big ask. I mean, Labour's got ninety

1704
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 10: four seats in the Lower House and that's where the

1705
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 10: stuff is done. In the ninety four seats out of

1706
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 10: one hundred and fifty. Now the Liberals and Nationals between

1707
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 10: them have forty three. Based on the last and pole

1708
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 10: from Monday this week, Pauline Hanson's One Nation outrages them.

1709
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 10: The only way I can see Labor getting rolled over here,

1710
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 10: and this is fantasy, is if the National Party does

1711
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 10: a deal with one Nation. And look what happened to

1712
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 10: Barnaby Jewish. He was he was deputy Prime Minister and

1713
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 10: here he is now with Pauline Hanson CosIng up to her.

1714
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 10: When she stands up in the Parliamentary courtyard with her

1715
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 10: bunch of halfwits behind her, she looks like the bar

1716
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 10: scene out of Star Wars. It's crazy.

1717
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 2: My assessment. So he got to you've got reform, you

1718
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 2: got Pauline Hanson reform I can see in Britain being real.

1719
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 2: I don't see Hanson being real. When push comes to

1720
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 2: sharkte they're they're they're all too there. They look ridiculous.

1721
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 2: They're probably they do.

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Speaker 10: I mean Farage has got I don't know what Farage's

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Speaker 10: I can't stand the fellow. I just think he's he's

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Speaker 10: like a vegetarian shark. But Pauline Hanson has been around

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Speaker 10: a lot to me for thirty years. She's been in

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Speaker 10: federal politics and she does know, she knows the way around.

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Speaker 10: But she's never ever had any presence in the lower House.

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Speaker 10: The Senate is, as Paul Keeting famously called it, unrepresentative.

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01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 10: Swill you get them there, you get That's what gets

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Speaker 10: up my works as keepings. Unrepresentative swill You get them

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01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 10: there because you licked the right number of envelopes and

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01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 10: kicked the right amount and kissed the right amount of

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Speaker 10: ass for the right amount of time. Oh, it's your turn,

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Speaker 10: and that's what that's the way it works.

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Speaker 2: I've got to go, mate, because as usually you and

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01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 2: i've we should have beer actually, because this is I mean,

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01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 2: this is the same as being at the pub. Isn't

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Speaker 2: it really so.

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Speaker 10: Early for me?

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Speaker 2: The four point one unemployment. I mean, I look at

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01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 2: all the jobs. It's like, geez, you're doing okay, aren't you.

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Speaker 10: Well? The unemployment figure is good for those who are

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01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 10: looking for work. I forget the exact number. I had

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01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 10: it last night of the last night, knowing you'd ask

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01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 10: about it. But it's not good for those apparently who

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01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 10: much smarter than me. They say, when unemployment is low,

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01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 10: lots of job was being created. The reserve banks of

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01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 10: a mind to raise interest rates again because they want

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01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 10: to keep a lead on inflation. And if you've got

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01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 10: a bloody great one million dollar mortgage, wow, look out.

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01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 10: I mean the mortgage shoulders that they want relief. They

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01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 10: need relief because there's no productivity. Wages aren't going up.

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01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 10: But there are plenty of jobs out there, and I

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01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 10: guess to that extent there's food on the table. That's

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01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 10: a down good scene.

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Speaker 2: Well it's a joy mate. You have a good WEEKND

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01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 2: we'll see next park it very much A forty five

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Speaker 2: Murray Olds.

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Speaker 1: The Like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks at be Mike.

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Speaker 2: This week's political events would never happen to Barnaby Joyce

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01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 2: was the leader of the Nationals. Susan Lee rushed and

1763
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 2: hysterical to call government back to Canberra to stiffen up

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01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 2: in a monumental way. Her leadership is untenable. Mike Anthony

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01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 2: Albanezi Australia's best prime minister rever Will You're wrong on that, obviously,

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01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 2: because one Albanese has only done one term, so that

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Speaker 2: doesn't count too. Bob Hawk beats some hands down. Three

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01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 2: John Howard four terms, I rest my case, are the

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01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 2: first pausible a turmoil for the year. How many people

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01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 2: do you pay that really are milking the system? My wow,

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01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 2: I got I got two trucks in a clown car.

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01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 2: I reckon two trucks and a clown car. How many

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01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 2: people do you pay that really are milking the system?

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Speaker 2: On myke, No, it's just two trucks and it's a

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01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 2: two tracker. Not bad to open for the year, though

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01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 2: we got to Friday. By the way, the four tests

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01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 2: thing that I was talking about before, there are four

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01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 2: tests for the All Blacks this year. That's all there are.

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01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 2: There's Baltimore. I get why they're going to Baltimore if

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01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,879
Speaker 2: you're not up and All Blacks played South Africa and Baltimore.

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01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 2: I got the Chicago thing because Chicago's full of Irish people.

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01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 2: We played Ireland, so it made sense we're on our

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01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 2: way north. Baltimore is what what's Baltimore famous for? Nothing?

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01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 2: The wire that's true, but apart from that, it's got

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01:25:57,960 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 2: not a lot of South Amia.

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01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 21: Rememb what would address Elvis's career be if not for Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Well, that is true, but Addriss isn't playing for the

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01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 2: All Blacks ut South Africa as far as I know.

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Speaker 2: And it's a completely separate subject. But thank you for

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01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 2: your contribution. Nevertheless, how long before it's not four tests

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01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 2: in New Zealand, it's three, and then it's two, and

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01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 2: then it's none. And so the All Blacks play in Australia,

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01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 2: they play in South Africa, they do the Northern Tour

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01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 2: and they spend the rest of their time in America.

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01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 21: It's a minus boy who cares well.

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01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 2: I have some civility for that argument actually to be frank,

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01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 2: but there's change of foot in a way that I

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01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 2: don't think many people will have anticipated. And is that

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01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:40,600
Speaker 2: where rugby is heading? Anyway, let's get that out of

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01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 2: the way. Nine minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate News togs be.

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Speaker 2: I forgot to tell you will it's sold now because

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01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 2: I'm about to tell you. But the reason I rade

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01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 2: poor Orcadie's tennis elbow has come about because she plays

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01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 2: the pickle and we bought the tennis rackets over the

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01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 2: holiday period, but we actually haven't used them. We've got

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Speaker 2: a cannonball to can of balls twenty five dollars, can

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01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 2: of four balls twenty five dollars. Have any four? I

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01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 2: want to say you almost certainly four could be three almost.

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Speaker 2: They're very nice but tech something tick r tech something tick.

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Speaker 2: I'd never heard of the last time I played tennis,

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01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 2: Wilson with the balls to go with these days. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: we bought two rackets, but we haven't been able to

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01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 2: get out yet because she's injured. I mean, you marry

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01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 2: a younger woman, you expect a something a bit different.

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Speaker 21: I would have thought she would be able to beat

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Speaker 21: you left handed.

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01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,759
Speaker 2: I hadn't thought about that. Actually, Glens, you probably can anyway.

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01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 2: The point of that, the reason I raised that is

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01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 2: research and Denmark backed up from Britain. If you want

1821
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 2: to if you're into longevity, if you want to live

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Speaker 2: and live well, tennis generally racket sports, but mainly tennis.

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01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,719
Speaker 2: There is something about the combination of back and forth,

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01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 2: sudden stop start movement, the hand eye coordination of the ball,

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01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 2: the anticipatory nature of what's going to happen next, very

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01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,799
Speaker 2: good for you mentally, and of course the socialization aspect

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01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,719
Speaker 2: because you need someone to play with. So tennis, pickleball,

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01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 2: paddle that of all the things you can do, this

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01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 2: study says beats literally anything else when it comes to longevity.

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Speaker 2: Just don't marry a woman who's a bit crippled. Five

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Speaker 2: minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist Wells, great savings every day.

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Speaker 2: Now on the socials, Trump's got more bruising. It's a

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01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 2: big bruise. I've just seen the picture. Just do back

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01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 2: this up. Big bruise on right hand last year. Now

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01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 2: we've got the left hand. Uh huh. Levett Carolyn, whose

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01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 2: credibility is shot to pieces. And I'll tell you why

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01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 2: in a moment, because she says, now he hit his

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01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 2: hand on the side of the podium while signing the agreement.

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01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 2: She also claimed yesterday, and this has blown up on

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01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,600
Speaker 2: the social media's all over the world. She claimed. He

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01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 2: never said Iceland.

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Speaker 5: Iceland's already costs us a lot of money.

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01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 2: He said Iceland four times. You can't defend the indefensible.

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01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 2: But here's where it is interesting. He gave and I

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01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 2: can't remember where it was. I think it was Wall

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01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 2: Street Journal. Over the holiday period, he gave what was

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01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 2: sort of an unusual interview on the sense he started

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01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 2: talking about his health, and he revealed that he's been

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Speaker 2: on aspirin and massive doses of it forever, and he

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01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 2: diagnoses himself, perhaps not surprisingly, and he said, I want

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01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 2: that nice thin blood. He did that thing whereby you

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01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 2: don't know how blood and your heart works. He goes

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01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,639
Speaker 2: you sometimes get the thick blood, and the thick blood

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01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 2: goes through you. He does all of that, he says,

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01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 2: but I like the nice thin blood. So he takes

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01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 2: lots and lots of aspirin, and he's done so for years,

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01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,560
Speaker 2: way more aspiring than any doctor would ever suggest you

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01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 2: take anyway. As a result of that, of course, they

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01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 2: argued the reason he just constantly bleeds, but the risk,

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01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 2: of course.

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Speaker 21: But I mean imagine if he had caught his fingers

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01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 21: in that bulldog clip, well, precisely, they.

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Speaker 1: Could have done some damage.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, I wouldn't have shown the pain,

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01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 2: no pain. He would have bled out. And of course

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Speaker 2: there is no reason to believe there's not a tremendous

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Speaker 2: amount of internal bleeding going on at the best of

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01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:00,839
Speaker 2: times anyway, because bull zesperin.

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Speaker 21: Luckily he's not taking paracetamol. Otherwise we know what it

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Speaker 21: had happen on their.

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Speaker 2: Slightly anyway, I think we did really really well for

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Speaker 2: our first week. Yep, we all agree here back next

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Speaker 2: week Tuesdays. It turns out Happy Days.

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