WEBVTT - Plastic in your head (5 May 2025) 0:00:07.133 --> 0:00:11.173 You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News Talks. 0:00:11.173 --> 0:00:11.493 A'd be. 0:00:13.253 --> 0:00:16.573 I'll tell you one thing about Trump, right, he says 0:00:16.653 --> 0:00:23.333 things that prompt interesting investigations. I've spent some time today 0:00:23.373 --> 0:00:26.973 reading about Alcatraz, because well, he's ordered to reopen it, 0:00:26.973 --> 0:00:31.613 according to the articles. Some articles are saying he has 0:00:31.653 --> 0:00:36.813 announced that Alcatraz will reopen, and some says he's ordered 0:00:36.813 --> 0:00:42.613 it to reopen. Some say that probably was watching Escape 0:00:42.613 --> 0:00:45.013 from Alcatraz on HBO last night and saw that and 0:00:45.013 --> 0:00:47.933 thought that's an idea. But what is staggering to me 0:00:48.013 --> 0:00:52.093 A couple of things about Alcatraz. One, how many prisoners, 0:00:52.573 --> 0:00:57.013 not many. How many prisons Alcatraz hold it held, hold 0:00:57.093 --> 0:01:02.133 it anywhere between two sixty and two seventy five at 0:01:02.173 --> 0:01:06.293 a time, so in terms of the incarcerated American population, 0:01:06.413 --> 0:01:10.373 and that would be almost next to nothing. And I 0:01:10.413 --> 0:01:12.573 don't think it was one of those extremely high security 0:01:12.693 --> 0:01:15.693 presents you'd want to put the extremely high highly dangerous 0:01:15.693 --> 0:01:18.133 people in, because it's not a it's not one of 0:01:18.173 --> 0:01:20.893 those modern prisons where they see in the UNI bomber 0:01:20.893 --> 0:01:23.573 of people, because I've read articles about those, and they're 0:01:23.573 --> 0:01:26.213 in the middle of nowhere, and they are incredibly hard 0:01:26.213 --> 0:01:28.253 to get out of. But Alcatraz, of course, people to 0:01:28.373 --> 0:01:30.613 escape from it. I know about this because I've watched 0:01:30.653 --> 0:01:38.093 episodes of MythBusters and they used and made kind of 0:01:39.453 --> 0:01:42.293 rafts and dummies and all sorts of stuff. And from 0:01:42.333 --> 0:01:44.333 time to time there are articles that say they asked 0:01:44.373 --> 0:01:47.013 it alive and what happened to those people because no 0:01:47.053 --> 0:01:49.973 one quite knows if they got to shore or they 0:01:50.093 --> 0:01:52.973 drowned or eaten by sharks. In fact, I know a 0:01:52.973 --> 0:01:55.453 lot about Alcatraz. Also know about Alcatraz from the America's 0:01:55.493 --> 0:01:59.173 Cup with Peter Lester always saying, oh, that's right. There 0:01:59.213 --> 0:02:01.093 are the lee of the winds behind Alca trees. You 0:02:01.133 --> 0:02:03.173 don't want to go there, or it might have been 0:02:03.213 --> 0:02:06.213 the tide. The lee of the tide behind Olca Trees 0:02:06.293 --> 0:02:07.853 was also something you didn't want to go. And the 0:02:07.893 --> 0:02:09.973 other thing that I'm frstinated about with Alcatraz is that 0:02:12.933 --> 0:02:16.693 it's one of only two prisons in the world that 0:02:16.813 --> 0:02:20.373 also ran a lighthouse. The other one is the prison 0:02:20.453 --> 0:02:26.533 on Bluff Hill in Napier. But the one Bluff Hill, 0:02:26.533 --> 0:02:29.093 I believe, if memory serves me right, was occupied by 0:02:29.973 --> 0:02:33.613 the prison wardens the lighthouse, whereas Alcatraz they had designated 0:02:33.693 --> 0:02:38.493 lighthouse keepers and they were called the Wikis, which I 0:02:38.573 --> 0:02:40.373 quite like, and there was three of them on eight 0:02:40.373 --> 0:02:46.413 hour shifts and they would keep the light burning. There 0:02:46.453 --> 0:02:48.573 is still a lighthouse now in Alcatraz, but it is 0:02:48.613 --> 0:02:56.653 automated and it's just a tourism venue. Brilliant. So all 0:02:56.693 --> 0:03:00.213 that he sees some interesting stuff, not always in a 0:03:00.253 --> 0:03:04.173 good way. And then he dressed as the Pope didn't 0:03:04.173 --> 0:03:07.933 go down well. Some were wondering what he was going 0:03:07.973 --> 0:03:10.773 to do for Star Wars Day, but that didn't have anyway. 0:03:10.773 --> 0:03:12.213 You might have been drug trays. Want to say something 0:03:12.213 --> 0:03:15.933 about that, because I'm in festinated by that. You might 0:03:16.813 --> 0:03:18.693 you might want to go with the whole angle of 0:03:18.693 --> 0:03:20.653 what building in New Zealand would you like reopen? I 0:03:20.693 --> 0:03:22.573 don't think anyone wants any of those old prisons reopen, 0:03:22.693 --> 0:03:25.413 do they They're ghastly. I went to an escape room 0:03:25.453 --> 0:03:27.173 the other day and that President and Eden it was 0:03:27.253 --> 0:03:33.133 quite foreboding. Actually, we're terrifying kind of a place. Put 0:03:33.213 --> 0:03:37.813 us off of scape rooms. Really, it's almost like the 0:03:37.813 --> 0:03:40.413 prisoners had just walked out about a day ago and 0:03:40.453 --> 0:03:43.093 they've retro fitted it but if you want to, maybe 0:03:43.133 --> 0:03:45.853 you've visited Alcatraz recently. Got some interesting facts about that, 0:03:45.893 --> 0:03:48.133 because I'm festinated by that. But just three hundred and 0:03:48.133 --> 0:03:51.413 thirty six visits, prisoners were there in fact over time, 0:03:51.573 --> 0:03:55.293 and Alcatraz right, only fifteen hundred and seventy six prisoners 0:03:55.293 --> 0:04:03.893 were there in the prison's lifetime, including al Capone. But yes, 0:04:03.893 --> 0:04:06.173 that's what Trump's done today, wants to well, he's ordered 0:04:06.213 --> 0:04:09.973 Oatrez to be reopened presidential order, and he's also trying 0:04:09.973 --> 0:04:13.973 to get a one hundred percent tariff on movies. I've 0:04:14.013 --> 0:04:19.693 got no idea how that works, no idea at all. 0:04:19.893 --> 0:04:22.013 I would imagine that's on your price of admission. You'd 0:04:22.013 --> 0:04:24.573 pay twice. Is that right? If your movies were ten bucks, 0:04:24.613 --> 0:04:27.133 you'd pay ten bucks go to the US government. I 0:04:27.173 --> 0:04:31.813 guess that's how it would work. But as Christopher Luxon says, 0:04:31.853 --> 0:04:36.413 let's wait for the details because they are scanned. I'm 0:04:36.453 --> 0:04:38.693 looking through the list of prisoners now that worried Alcatraz. 0:04:38.813 --> 0:04:44.013 Is not many I can remember, although a lot of 0:04:44.013 --> 0:04:52.453 them had nicknames, Basil the al Banghart, Tamoy, Meatball, Kawakita, 0:04:53.853 --> 0:05:01.453 Herbert Allen, Defy Farmer, Joseph Paul Dutch, Kretza, Robert Birdman 0:05:01.533 --> 0:05:04.973 of Alcatraz Stroud. I think we know about him, our 0:05:05.293 --> 0:05:14.613 scarfaced Capo, Irving Wexley, Gordon Wixler, Forest Woody Tucker. Great 0:05:14.693 --> 0:05:16.853 nicknames in prison. Anyway, if you're to talk about that'd 0:05:16.853 --> 0:05:19.253 be fested. If everyone's been to Alcatraz or thinks it's 0:05:19.253 --> 0:05:21.173 a good idea, I don't know why it's a good idea. 0:05:21.613 --> 0:05:23.013 In fact, I don't think it is a good idea. 0:05:23.693 --> 0:05:25.853 It holds so few prisoners. Anyway. Oh, by the way, too, 0:05:25.933 --> 0:05:30.053 let's just acknowledge the Warriors for their victory over the weekend. 0:05:30.133 --> 0:05:33.013 I was at the basketball and I just look at 0:05:33.053 --> 0:05:35.693 my cell phone for updates. Even watching it with just 0:05:35.733 --> 0:05:41.173 the updates was nerve wrecking. I can't believe they managed 0:05:41.173 --> 0:05:42.933 to pull that one off, but well done them for that. 0:05:43.493 --> 0:05:45.933 Quite likely, but of magic rounder the weather was apporting. Anyway, 0:05:45.933 --> 0:05:47.173 get in touch if you want to start the whole 0:05:47.173 --> 0:05:51.173 ball rolling tonight thirteen past date. Shame about McDonald's pocket anger, 0:05:51.173 --> 0:05:55.413 although that fire seems to have closed now, but for 0:05:55.453 --> 0:05:57.893 a long time also too, there was a and I'm 0:05:57.933 --> 0:05:59.373 saying this because these might be things you want to 0:05:59.373 --> 0:06:02.773 talk about earthquake Livin today. There might be some aftershocks 0:06:02.813 --> 0:06:05.293 about that. I don't know how widely felt it was, 0:06:05.333 --> 0:06:07.493 but you might have something to say about that. I'll 0:06:07.573 --> 0:06:10.813 check on geoone for that one. Big on the breaking news. 0:06:10.813 --> 0:06:12.573 You might have some breaking news where you are two 0:06:12.613 --> 0:06:16.293 in the next four hours. Bring that through. Always big 0:06:16.333 --> 0:06:20.413 on the old b in the breaking news. Let me 0:06:20.493 --> 0:06:24.773 just look at those quakes four point one at five 0:06:24.933 --> 0:06:29.493 sixteen ten k's northwest of Levina, the depth of thirty 0:06:29.533 --> 0:06:35.213 six kilometers. So I've seen no subsequent after shocks from 0:06:35.213 --> 0:06:38.373 that yet either either. Anyway, do get in touch eight 0:06:38.493 --> 0:06:40.693 hundred and eighty Teddy and nine two nine to detext 0:06:40.813 --> 0:06:42.453 if you want to start the whole war fast dating 0:06:42.453 --> 0:06:45.613 to about Alchelizic if someone's been there, because I'm sure 0:06:45.653 --> 0:06:48.293 you win one of those tours with festating information about it. 0:06:50.253 --> 0:06:51.973 Now I'm thinking about you. There might be some old 0:06:51.973 --> 0:06:54.133 building in New Zealand you want reopened. I can't imagine 0:06:54.133 --> 0:06:58.253 what that would be. I can't imagine anyone want to 0:06:58.253 --> 0:07:01.733 reopen any of the psychiatric facilities. Are rules all terrifying. 0:07:03.413 --> 0:07:05.173 I think the old prizzoners are well beyond the use 0:07:05.253 --> 0:07:08.093 by date. I'm actually still surprised they managed to keep 0:07:08.093 --> 0:07:10.653 in the cargo or prison open. That must be over 0:07:10.693 --> 0:07:15.613 one hundred years old. Sometimes you go to McDonald's at 0:07:15.653 --> 0:07:17.853 midnight after work, the prison wardens are there having their 0:07:17.893 --> 0:07:21.053 feet It's quite interesting. I think it's when the shift ends. 0:07:21.653 --> 0:07:24.133 Actually it's quite interesting having a prison. Quite often there 0:07:24.213 --> 0:07:29.053 are outside the present of an evening there are partners 0:07:29.133 --> 0:07:34.133 or wives on the street just sort of I don't 0:07:34.173 --> 0:07:38.173 quite know what they're doing, sort of signaling to their 0:07:38.213 --> 0:07:41.653 partners through the windows. It's to an interesting kind of 0:07:41.693 --> 0:07:44.173 fresh on to a city, to have your prison inside 0:07:44.173 --> 0:07:46.573 it where actually can see them in the little windows. 0:07:48.413 --> 0:07:49.893 In fact, one of them told me once my lights 0:07:49.933 --> 0:07:52.853 were left on it subway, which I thought was good mate, 0:07:53.093 --> 0:07:58.093 your lights are on. And I guess what was probably 0:07:58.133 --> 0:08:00.333 a significant thing for their day anyway, fifteen past day, 0:08:00.373 --> 0:08:03.013 looking forward. Duke called here till midnight, oh eight hundred 0:08:03.053 --> 0:08:05.013 and eighty Telly. A lot of other stuff we probably 0:08:05.013 --> 0:08:06.573 need to talk about tonight. I'm not quite sure the 0:08:06.653 --> 0:08:09.733 order that will go with, but I'll take the initiative 0:08:09.773 --> 0:08:11.573 from you if you want to come through, by the way, 0:08:11.653 --> 0:08:19.773 Mother's Day Sunday, second Sunday of May and the new Pope. 0:08:21.733 --> 0:08:26.173 They've got the new chimney in. It'll begin May the seventh. 0:08:26.213 --> 0:08:30.093 What's today, the fifth sixth begins Wednesday. Well, if that 0:08:30.213 --> 0:08:31.933 happens on our show, we'll drop a break in news 0:08:31.973 --> 0:08:34.213 sting and tell you the new pope will be. It'll 0:08:34.293 --> 0:08:36.613 be one of the Italians of the Filipino, I would imagine. 0:08:37.973 --> 0:08:40.373 I did watch a lot of the coverage from SkyTV. 0:08:40.453 --> 0:08:41.653 It was the only channel I could get for the 0:08:41.653 --> 0:08:44.053 coverage of the American election. Boy oh boy with a 0:08:44.173 --> 0:08:49.093 sour faced panel. In fact, they crossed to Albanese's headquarters 0:08:49.133 --> 0:08:56.413 before he arrived, right, And this is how split the media. 0:08:56.613 --> 0:09:00.693 In Australia. There was a couple, an old guy, sort 0:09:00.733 --> 0:09:02.733 of a Colonel Sandal looking guy with a goady beard 0:09:02.773 --> 0:09:08.933 and glasses, and a woman and they walked around the 0:09:08.973 --> 0:09:11.973 gathering of the Labor Party supporters. No one would talk 0:09:12.013 --> 0:09:16.333 to them. It was like watching the Red Sea part. 0:09:16.413 --> 0:09:18.573 They'd walk through there and people were just falling over 0:09:18.613 --> 0:09:24.333 themselves to get away. Here to go figure anyway, here 0:09:24.373 --> 0:09:26.373 to a midnight eight hundred and eighty. Oh, by the way, 0:09:26.373 --> 0:09:29.973 the budget, of course that's happening, not tonight, not tomorrow night, Thursday, 0:09:30.053 --> 0:09:35.493 twenty second of May, so just under three weeks for that. Also, 0:09:35.573 --> 0:09:37.173 so we've got the Pope, we got the Mother's Day, 0:09:37.173 --> 0:09:38.693 we've got the budget. She's going to be a pretty 0:09:38.893 --> 0:09:41.533 busy May. But get in touch. You want to be 0:09:41.533 --> 0:09:43.813 a part of the show. Taty and nine two nine 0:09:43.893 --> 0:09:48.413 to detext looking forward to what you talk about. It 0:09:48.413 --> 0:09:50.613 seems to be a bit of heat on Erica Stanford. 0:09:50.813 --> 0:09:52.333 I think this was a similar thing that happened to 0:09:52.333 --> 0:09:55.813 clear Karen. Also. They started attacking her, chipping away with 0:09:55.853 --> 0:09:59.333 her about the emails, and this seems to be some 0:09:59.413 --> 0:10:02.573 sort of a yeah, I don't know what it is, 0:10:02.613 --> 0:10:04.493 but certainly that seems to have got a lot more 0:10:04.493 --> 0:10:09.333 attention than you probably think it would demand. But go figure, 0:10:10.573 --> 0:10:15.453 that's politics anyway, Get in touch. Eight hundred eighty forty 0:10:15.453 --> 0:10:20.733 five years since The Shining, the scariest movie ever made. 0:10:22.013 --> 0:10:23.413 I always saw it actually in the end of the 0:10:23.413 --> 0:10:25.293 thing that put me off scary movies. That damn one 0:10:25.333 --> 0:10:35.773 with the Anthony Hopkins terrible, terrible, absolutely terrified me. And 0:10:35.893 --> 0:10:40.293 I never really gone back to scary movies since. Absolutely 0:10:40.333 --> 0:10:43.453 terrifying because almost but I don't even know if you 0:10:43.493 --> 0:10:48.653 call it a horror movie, wasn't absolutely terrifying anyway. Silence 0:10:48.653 --> 0:10:50.373 of the Lambs is what I'm thinking of a twenty 0:10:50.373 --> 0:10:51.973 four past eight and there's something different. You want to 0:10:52.013 --> 0:10:54.293 go on about a here for your eight hundred and 0:10:54.293 --> 0:11:03.493 eighty ten eighty Marcus. Because of Trump's hundi hi hype 0:11:03.493 --> 0:11:08.533 on making movies, New Zealand used it a good excuse 0:11:08.573 --> 0:11:10.653 for renouncer Brad Pitt was swimming in Queens and that's 0:11:10.653 --> 0:11:12.053 what has been there for a while with that one. 0:11:14.533 --> 0:11:16.813 The old railway station is a shadow. It's the old 0:11:16.893 --> 0:11:19.453 Orcand railway station is a shadow of itself. As budget 0:11:19.493 --> 0:11:25.533 accommodation could be reopened as an open boutique mall. I 0:11:25.613 --> 0:11:27.773 was gonna say it could be open as a railway station. 0:11:27.853 --> 0:11:29.893 It was always a terrible place for a railway station, 0:11:30.773 --> 0:11:35.693 far too far out of town, Marcus. With all the 0:11:35.813 --> 0:11:38.053 chainsaw cuts going onto the States, how are we to 0:11:38.093 --> 0:11:45.213 know that the imported pork from there is safe to consume? Yes, 0:11:45.253 --> 0:11:47.493 I spent a day on Alcatraz during my eighteen months 0:11:47.493 --> 0:11:49.213 to the United States, and yes, it wouldn't take much 0:11:49.253 --> 0:11:51.493 to put it back in service, as it's so well 0:11:51.573 --> 0:11:55.933 preserved mark from Fittianga. I think you can buy shirts 0:11:55.973 --> 0:11:57.573 there too, can you? What can you buy from the 0:11:57.573 --> 0:12:01.453 Alcatraz gift shop? I think I might like something from there. 0:12:01.973 --> 0:12:03.853 It's not a bucket list thing for me, by the way, 0:12:04.293 --> 0:12:08.813 I've got no desire or the other thing too that 0:12:08.853 --> 0:12:13.853 I probably need to mention. Also tonight, there's been a 0:12:13.973 --> 0:12:15.893 bit and this is probably quite a good topic. It's 0:12:15.893 --> 0:12:21.173 probably as good a topic as any. There's been quite 0:12:21.213 --> 0:12:24.893 a bit of fuss over the last forty eight hours 0:12:25.573 --> 0:12:39.053 in the news cycle about colony eggs. Now. I wouldn't 0:12:39.053 --> 0:12:41.253 buy colony eggs because I've always thought that was a 0:12:41.253 --> 0:12:45.773 bit of a sketchy word. But a lot of people 0:12:45.773 --> 0:12:48.173 have probably thought that all the eggs are free range 0:12:48.213 --> 0:12:58.973 now and animal rights groups are saying that produces egg 0:12:59.013 --> 0:13:03.453 produces are misleadings in this by not declaring that colony 0:13:03.533 --> 0:13:10.533 laid eggs are laid by caged hens. So battery caged 0:13:11.213 --> 0:13:16.173 hens have been banned, but colony cages are still a thing. 0:13:18.373 --> 0:13:20.573 So as anyone out there kind of concerned about what 0:13:20.613 --> 0:13:27.373 colony cages are like, I've never seen one, so maybe 0:13:27.413 --> 0:13:30.413 they ought to put a word on that's not as 0:13:30.453 --> 0:13:41.493 misleading because colony to me doesn't sound caged. So apparently 0:13:41.533 --> 0:13:45.613 battery hen cages could hold about six hens and we're 0:13:45.613 --> 0:13:49.013 barren with nothing much in them except wire, and colony 0:13:49.013 --> 0:13:57.293 cages apparently are not much better. Colony cages can hold 0:13:57.373 --> 0:14:00.773 up to eighty hens, and each bird is given a 0:14:00.813 --> 0:14:02.813 space about the size of an a four piece of 0:14:02.813 --> 0:14:07.493 paper to living highly and ten of conditions. The hens 0:14:07.533 --> 0:14:10.813 never step outside and they only feel metal bars under 0:14:10.813 --> 0:14:18.253 their feet. Yeah, so eighty percent of news in as 0:14:18.253 --> 0:14:21.133 according the survey, did not know that colony eggs came 0:14:21.173 --> 0:14:25.373 from caged hens, with half the people mistake any feeling 0:14:25.453 --> 0:14:28.693 that they are brought from they were buying barn or 0:14:28.733 --> 0:14:31.253 freewaying eggs. I don't know what a barn egg is either. 0:14:32.373 --> 0:14:34.813 I tried to read the writing too much. But you 0:14:34.853 --> 0:14:36.533 want to talk about that also, I'm up for that discussion. 0:14:36.693 --> 0:14:40.173 Eight hundred and eighty Saddy Marcus still twelve eggs colony? 0:14:40.173 --> 0:14:43.333 Do you know what that means? It's kind of a 0:14:43.333 --> 0:14:47.093 sketchy word. They did say they publicized a lot about 0:14:47.133 --> 0:14:49.613 what the word meant when they went from cage to colony. 0:14:49.933 --> 0:14:53.493 I don't remember that colony eggs, by the way are 0:14:53.573 --> 0:14:58.613 thirty percent of the sales colony eggs. That is so, yes, 0:14:58.613 --> 0:15:01.493 it's why are cages? Doesn't sound like a colony, does it. 0:15:03.133 --> 0:15:06.413 Colony sounds slightly more fancy to me. Yes, Steve, this 0:15:06.533 --> 0:15:09.253 Marcus welcome, good evening, Good. 0:15:09.053 --> 0:15:10.973 Evening, Marcus. Marcus. 0:15:11.293 --> 0:15:12.493 My dad is eighty eight. 0:15:13.093 --> 0:15:15.053 He got home help three months ago. 0:15:15.613 --> 0:15:16.693 Home help rules. 0:15:17.253 --> 0:15:19.333 First thing the home help is not allowed to. 0:15:19.293 --> 0:15:20.893 Do is the dishes. 0:15:21.453 --> 0:15:24.573 Second thing home help is not allowed to clean his stove. 0:15:25.333 --> 0:15:29.533 Third thing, home help is not allowed to clean his fridge. Marcus, 0:15:29.573 --> 0:15:30.533 Would you believe it? 0:15:32.493 --> 0:15:36.093 What's the reasons for that? 0:15:36.253 --> 0:15:36.453 Is that? 0:15:36.573 --> 0:15:39.333 Because this can you tell me a bit more about it? 0:15:40.253 --> 0:15:44.253 Roughly? I take it as that My dad's pretty savvy, 0:15:44.373 --> 0:15:48.213 so he's filled me. This is home help across the 0:15:48.373 --> 0:15:52.013 country rules. You're not allowed to do the dishes because 0:15:52.053 --> 0:15:57.373 the bacterial transfers. I think the fridge thing is about 0:15:57.533 --> 0:16:01.453 like I'm tampering with other people's food. And I don't 0:16:01.453 --> 0:16:03.893 know what the bloom and stove thing is, Marcus. But 0:16:04.533 --> 0:16:06.733 I knew no one else to talk to you. Otherwise 0:16:08.893 --> 0:16:10.533 if I had to go and sit in the office 0:16:10.573 --> 0:16:12.933 and hit them up about it, and you know, I'd 0:16:12.973 --> 0:16:15.333 probably lose my temper. They're not allowed to what the 0:16:15.373 --> 0:16:20.813 wall four and half feet high anyway? 0:16:23.293 --> 0:16:25.813 Who's this? This is provided by the Area of Health. 0:16:27.853 --> 0:16:31.733 Apparently it's the same rules countrywide for home help, Marcus, 0:16:31.773 --> 0:16:33.253 for all elderly people. 0:16:33.573 --> 0:16:36.853 And your father is living in his own home. 0:16:38.093 --> 0:16:40.893 No, he's in a pension of flats in the far. 0:16:40.813 --> 0:16:43.413 North, Okay. 0:16:43.973 --> 0:16:46.253 It's a general rule, I believe. 0:16:46.293 --> 0:16:49.253 I would imagine with some of the home help that 0:16:50.173 --> 0:16:54.613 my mother had used, that that the home help would 0:16:54.613 --> 0:16:56.493 be quite appreciated by your father, would it not? 0:16:59.773 --> 0:17:03.613 With with the dishes not being able to be done? 0:17:05.933 --> 0:17:07.493 What are they? 0:17:07.973 --> 0:17:08.693 What are they doing? 0:17:10.133 --> 0:17:10.333 Well? 0:17:10.373 --> 0:17:14.213 They're allowed to clean the toilet, mop the floor, and 0:17:14.293 --> 0:17:17.173 vacuum the floor, and they're not allowed to wipe the 0:17:17.173 --> 0:17:18.453 wall above. 0:17:18.133 --> 0:17:21.413 Four and a half foot Is that they don't fall. 0:17:22.693 --> 0:17:25.533 Something like that? But I mean the first things of 0:17:25.573 --> 0:17:29.293 an elderly person, Marcus, is the dishes. Often for for 0:17:29.453 --> 0:17:33.013 an old brooke anyway, the dishes need doing a so 0:17:33.133 --> 0:17:36.373 I do his dishes. The fridge needs cleaning, so I 0:17:36.533 --> 0:17:39.013 clean his fridge down with their vegetables go in the 0:17:39.093 --> 0:17:42.053 lower parts, and things like that. And the stove of 0:17:42.133 --> 0:17:46.173 an old bachelor, I mean can look like a second 0:17:46.173 --> 0:17:52.613 world wall's gone through after a few days. Yeah, okay, 0:17:53.653 --> 0:17:55.813 some sort of MP needs to have a look at 0:17:55.813 --> 0:17:59.293 the rules again. I think Marcus and I haven't heard 0:17:59.293 --> 0:18:01.573 it talk. The other thing was wasp a couple of 0:18:01.653 --> 0:18:04.013 weeks ago. You boil a jug is the greenest way 0:18:04.053 --> 0:18:04.693 to kill the wasp? 0:18:04.773 --> 0:18:05.013 Five? 0:18:05.453 --> 0:18:07.133 Yeah, I'm into that's what you're going to say about 0:18:07.133 --> 0:18:09.133 because you'rebviously passion about this, Steve. So I will see 0:18:09.133 --> 0:18:10.933 if some other people can ring up, and maybe they 0:18:10.933 --> 0:18:13.733 are people that work in that situation. They might explain, 0:18:13.813 --> 0:18:16.653 because it seems to me it's not so much what 0:18:16.813 --> 0:18:19.613 they can't do. It doesn't seem as though you've heard 0:18:19.613 --> 0:18:23.373 a good enough reason why they can't do that. Is 0:18:23.413 --> 0:18:23.893 that fair? 0:18:24.893 --> 0:18:25.173 Well? 0:18:25.373 --> 0:18:29.973 The the transfer of bacteria for dishes does sound reasonable, 0:18:30.013 --> 0:18:35.413 But however the most likely an additive like a specialized. 0:18:34.973 --> 0:18:37.573 But I just wonder, if I just wonder, is there 0:18:37.613 --> 0:18:42.013 another Is there another provider that provides home cleaning that 0:18:42.053 --> 0:18:43.093 your father could access. 0:18:45.413 --> 0:18:47.213 Put it this way, he has had a couple of 0:18:47.253 --> 0:18:49.413 them in the last three months, he said, one every 0:18:49.453 --> 0:18:53.133 three months, and he wants to fight this one. The 0:18:53.173 --> 0:18:55.933 first bloke used to do the dishes and then but 0:18:56.213 --> 0:18:59.813 it was not foul outside the rules. Eh. 0:18:59.973 --> 0:19:02.333 Okay, Steve, thanks for ring. We'll see if we get 0:19:02.333 --> 0:19:07.253 some information about that. Janet's Marcus, good evening. 0:19:08.093 --> 0:19:11.773 Oh hello Marcus. A bit of a change of subject 0:19:11.813 --> 0:19:14.213 from that. I've been to Alcatraz. 0:19:14.533 --> 0:19:15.693 Wow, thank you for colling. 0:19:15.973 --> 0:19:17.693 But not as a prisoner. 0:19:20.893 --> 0:19:24.853 I don't think women went there. But anyway, yeah, okay, good, okay, 0:19:25.133 --> 0:19:25.653 But it was. 0:19:25.653 --> 0:19:31.013 Way it was back in nineteen ninety two, and it 0:19:31.173 --> 0:19:33.653 just it just reminded me. You did remind when you 0:19:33.693 --> 0:19:36.693 started speaking about it, because when I went, I bought 0:19:36.773 --> 0:19:40.373 the Birdman of Alcatraz book. Oh yes, while I was there, 0:19:40.773 --> 0:19:43.853 because he was the reason I went, because I'd seen 0:19:43.893 --> 0:19:47.053 the movie with Burt Lancaster played the part. 0:19:48.413 --> 0:19:49.933 And look, can I just say, as soon as I 0:19:49.973 --> 0:19:51.933 saw that, a lot went through my mind. Did he 0:19:52.053 --> 0:19:53.773 fly to like a bird? But it wasn't. He was 0:19:53.813 --> 0:19:55.133 someone that fed birds. 0:19:54.853 --> 0:19:55.333 Is that right? 0:19:55.853 --> 0:19:56.053 Yeah? 0:19:56.173 --> 0:20:00.413 No, he raised birds and he studied bird diseases and 0:20:00.493 --> 0:20:04.933 all that, and he was incarcerated there for about fifty years. 0:20:05.533 --> 0:20:09.093 He was he was guilty of two, you know, quite 0:20:09.133 --> 0:20:12.453 bad crimes, but he was obviously quite a gentle I 0:20:12.493 --> 0:20:15.653 don't know what led to the crimes, but he just 0:20:15.693 --> 0:20:20.773 took it upon himself to look after birds and he 0:20:21.453 --> 0:20:23.133 it seys I'm just reading the back of the book. 0:20:23.173 --> 0:20:26.013 He raised hundreds of birds and cages in his cell 0:20:26.333 --> 0:20:29.493 and became an authority on bird disease and wrote the 0:20:29.573 --> 0:20:32.933 definitive book on the subject, which remains in print to 0:20:33.053 --> 0:20:33.533 this day. 0:20:35.373 --> 0:20:36.693 Wow, m. 0:20:38.733 --> 0:20:39.253 Little book. 0:20:39.493 --> 0:20:40.213 Is it a good read? 0:20:41.053 --> 0:20:44.493 I did well. I bought it in nineteen ninety two 0:20:44.533 --> 0:20:46.973 and read it, so it's a wee while ago. It 0:20:47.093 --> 0:20:49.413 was good and the movie was good. I remember. That's 0:20:49.453 --> 0:20:52.573 what prompted me to buy the book. Was, as I say, boot. 0:20:52.373 --> 0:20:56.253 Land And could you go and see the actual cell 0:20:56.333 --> 0:20:56.973 which was his. 0:20:57.973 --> 0:21:03.573 Yes, Yes, we got a boat over and we were 0:21:03.573 --> 0:21:08.053 told about how how anglis it was. It's got terrible 0:21:09.453 --> 0:21:12.253 currents and things like that. And I think only a 0:21:12.253 --> 0:21:16.293 few people ever made it to the other side because 0:21:16.293 --> 0:21:21.213 they'd be swept away. And yeah, and we were shown around. 0:21:21.653 --> 0:21:23.853 This was you know, it's a think going way back 0:21:23.933 --> 0:21:26.613 before you had all the devices to walk around and 0:21:26.653 --> 0:21:28.693 look at things nowadays, so you had sort of a 0:21:28.733 --> 0:21:31.253 guide showing you. Yeah, so we saw the cells and 0:21:31.293 --> 0:21:33.773 where he was and things it's not a very pleasant place. 0:21:34.133 --> 0:21:37.213 No, no prisons or the prisons. I've been to a 0:21:37.253 --> 0:21:39.973 fairly drum place. No, I think I might have. I 0:21:39.973 --> 0:21:42.013 think I might have seen that movie a long time ago, 0:21:42.173 --> 0:21:43.453 so I'm pretty interested in that. 0:21:43.773 --> 0:21:46.693 I would see Its interesting to see it again, wouldn't it. 0:21:46.853 --> 0:21:48.813 Yeah, and look, I appreciate you coming through, Jen. I'll 0:21:48.853 --> 0:21:50.893 reread that on the strength of you coming through with that, 0:21:51.413 --> 0:21:52.773 of course, for those that don't know. As I was 0:21:52.773 --> 0:21:54.773 listening to Jen, I thought, why is it called Alcatraz. 0:21:55.093 --> 0:21:58.733 It's Spanish for the island of the Pelicans, so to Spain. 0:21:58.773 --> 0:22:00.653 It couldn't work out the derivation. I thought, surely it's 0:22:00.653 --> 0:22:05.013 not American Indian? Why was it on the Chase Brenda? 0:22:05.053 --> 0:22:06.173 It's Marcus Welcome. 0:22:07.373 --> 0:22:11.853 Yeah, Hi Marcus, good show every night. Thank you. I'm 0:22:11.893 --> 0:22:14.813 just responding to the chat with his dad in a 0:22:14.973 --> 0:22:18.133 pension of flat up North, Yes, and his home help. 0:22:19.653 --> 0:22:23.133 I looked after pension of flats where I live for 0:22:23.213 --> 0:22:27.813 three years, and yeah, is quite very limited as to 0:22:27.893 --> 0:22:30.853 what home help they get. Home help usually only relates 0:22:30.933 --> 0:22:35.933 to them needing showering, okay, anything over and above that. 0:22:36.293 --> 0:22:42.093 I would suggest that he rings age concern because they 0:22:42.413 --> 0:22:45.293 are very, very helpful with pensioners. 0:22:45.573 --> 0:22:49.573 Okay, so it seems that there's miscommunication. They have given 0:22:49.653 --> 0:22:52.533 him home help for help with showering, and he's thought, oh, well, 0:22:52.573 --> 0:22:54.853 the person's there, I'll get them to clean the fridge, 0:22:54.893 --> 0:22:57.373 clean the oven. Well, they can't do that because they've 0:22:57.373 --> 0:22:58.453 got to go from place to place. 0:22:59.733 --> 0:23:03.173 Age Concern will advise them that they can through the 0:23:03.213 --> 0:23:05.533 Ministry of Social Development or WINS what you're going to 0:23:05.613 --> 0:23:08.653 call them, they can get some extra funding so much 0:23:08.693 --> 0:23:12.293 a year. So I just thought I'd just swing there 0:23:12.373 --> 0:23:12.693 in there. 0:23:12.973 --> 0:23:15.453 Is there a situation, is it Brenda's a situation? Is 0:23:15.453 --> 0:23:16.493 it called home help? 0:23:18.013 --> 0:23:19.293 Yeah, it's called home help. 0:23:19.373 --> 0:23:20.533