1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,507 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,027 Speaker 1: from News Talk ZB. 3 00:00:12,667 --> 00:00:15,907 Speaker 2: A night in Dubai from ten o'clock New Zealand time, 4 00:00:15,987 --> 00:00:19,827 Speaker 2: the black Caps take on India in the ICC Champions 5 00:00:19,947 --> 00:00:23,467 Speaker 2: Trophy Final. Black Caps coach Gary Stared is with us 6 00:00:23,467 --> 00:00:25,307 Speaker 2: out of Dubai. Gary, thanks for taking the time for 7 00:00:25,347 --> 00:00:29,067 Speaker 2: a chat. Let's start with personnel. What's the latest you 8 00:00:29,067 --> 00:00:32,227 Speaker 2: can tell us about the likely involvement or not of 9 00:00:32,507 --> 00:00:33,147 Speaker 2: Matt Henry. 10 00:00:33,907 --> 00:00:34,147 Speaker 3: Yeah. 11 00:00:34,187 --> 00:00:37,107 Speaker 4: Look, I mean Matt obviously landed on the shoulder and 12 00:00:37,227 --> 00:00:39,267 Speaker 4: was in a little bit of pain, so we're going 13 00:00:39,347 --> 00:00:42,547 Speaker 4: to give him every opportunity. He'll have a fitness test 14 00:00:42,587 --> 00:00:46,187 Speaker 4: tonight just to see how he's tracking and we'll make 15 00:00:46,227 --> 00:00:48,867 Speaker 4: a call after that whether he plays tomorrow or not. 16 00:00:48,987 --> 00:00:53,587 Speaker 4: So until we have that, he has that bowl this evening, 17 00:00:53,907 --> 00:00:57,027 Speaker 4: there's just a little bit of unknown around his readiness 18 00:00:57,107 --> 00:00:57,267 Speaker 4: or not. 19 00:00:57,787 --> 00:01:00,707 Speaker 2: Is it his bowling shoulder that is the problem. 20 00:01:01,267 --> 00:01:05,187 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's his right right shoulder, so yeah, it's obviously 21 00:01:05,227 --> 00:01:06,027 Speaker 4: important to him. 22 00:01:06,867 --> 00:01:09,667 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's. 23 00:01:08,827 --> 00:01:12,827 Speaker 4: Not ideal, but unfortunately those things come with playing support 24 00:01:12,827 --> 00:01:13,347 Speaker 4: at times. 25 00:01:13,627 --> 00:01:16,267 Speaker 2: So if he is ruled out of the final, is 26 00:01:16,307 --> 00:01:19,147 Speaker 2: it most likely, Gary, you'll go like for like and 27 00:01:19,227 --> 00:01:20,267 Speaker 2: select another SEMA. 28 00:01:21,027 --> 00:01:23,547 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the different options we have, it's either 29 00:01:23,627 --> 00:01:26,987 Speaker 4: that and we've got I guess two other seamas in 30 00:01:27,027 --> 00:01:30,787 Speaker 4: the squad and j Duffy and Nathan Smith, or if 31 00:01:30,787 --> 00:01:35,627 Speaker 4: we think the pitch will turn appreciatively, then we'd consider 32 00:01:35,707 --> 00:01:36,907 Speaker 4: another batsman as well. 33 00:01:37,147 --> 00:01:39,347 Speaker 2: All Right, we'll keep our eyes on that and keep 34 00:01:39,347 --> 00:01:41,427 Speaker 2: our fingers crossed. For Matt Henry, if you look at 35 00:01:41,427 --> 00:01:44,827 Speaker 2: the pool game you played against India, thirty seven of 36 00:01:44,867 --> 00:01:48,107 Speaker 2: the forty five overs, India bowl at you in that game, 37 00:01:48,147 --> 00:01:51,227 Speaker 2: will spinovers, is that what you're expecting again from them 38 00:01:51,227 --> 00:01:51,707 Speaker 2: in the final. 39 00:01:52,667 --> 00:01:56,827 Speaker 4: Yeah, to be honest, we're not sure, just because we 40 00:01:56,867 --> 00:01:58,787 Speaker 4: haven't been down to the stadium yet to have a 41 00:01:58,787 --> 00:02:01,587 Speaker 4: look at the pitch, and that will have a big bearing. 42 00:02:01,627 --> 00:02:04,787 Speaker 4: I think on a the makeup of our side, but equally, 43 00:02:04,827 --> 00:02:06,747 Speaker 4: I think the makeup of their side is well. But 44 00:02:07,307 --> 00:02:10,827 Speaker 4: I'm not expecting India to have too many changes. I'm 45 00:02:10,907 --> 00:02:14,187 Speaker 4: sure that Check Bravardi will play against us, considering he 46 00:02:14,307 --> 00:02:17,467 Speaker 4: got five wickets last time, which probably means they may 47 00:02:17,507 --> 00:02:18,707 Speaker 4: only have two seamers. 48 00:02:18,707 --> 00:02:21,227 Speaker 3: So we're certainly planning around that. 49 00:02:21,387 --> 00:02:24,187 Speaker 4: But we have noticed early in the tournament that they 50 00:02:24,267 --> 00:02:26,147 Speaker 4: did do it slightly differently though as well. 51 00:02:26,667 --> 00:02:29,747 Speaker 2: In your eleven you've got four spinners as well, Mitchell Santa, 52 00:02:29,787 --> 00:02:34,707 Speaker 2: Michael Bricewell, Rchen Revendra, Glenn Phillips. Could you foresee a 53 00:02:34,787 --> 00:02:38,267 Speaker 2: scenario under which you might get thirty five to even 54 00:02:38,307 --> 00:02:40,707 Speaker 2: forty overs from your spinners in the final? 55 00:02:42,307 --> 00:02:44,787 Speaker 4: Yeah, just it depends on how it's going in the 56 00:02:44,827 --> 00:02:48,107 Speaker 4: game and how much it does turn. I think you're 57 00:02:48,107 --> 00:02:49,747 Speaker 4: sort of the flip side of that. I think our 58 00:02:49,827 --> 00:02:53,307 Speaker 4: seam bowlers have been really outstanding through this tournament for 59 00:02:53,427 --> 00:02:56,787 Speaker 4: us as well, and Matt Henry's obviously leading wicket taker 60 00:02:56,827 --> 00:03:00,067 Speaker 4: at the moment, but Kyle Jamison and Willow Rourke have 61 00:03:00,227 --> 00:03:02,867 Speaker 4: chipped in with key spells and key wickets at times. 62 00:03:02,867 --> 00:03:06,747 Speaker 4: So it would really really depend on just the nature 63 00:03:06,747 --> 00:03:09,947 Speaker 4: of the wicket and whether we do deem it to 64 00:03:10,027 --> 00:03:13,907 Speaker 4: be more tougher against spinners than pace bowlers. But until 65 00:03:13,907 --> 00:03:16,787 Speaker 4: you get into the match, it's sometimes hard to know that. 66 00:03:16,827 --> 00:03:19,267 Speaker 3: But the good thing is, as you alluded to, we 67 00:03:19,347 --> 00:03:20,027 Speaker 3: have got. 68 00:03:20,067 --> 00:03:22,467 Speaker 4: I guess forty oervers of spin available to us there 69 00:03:22,467 --> 00:03:23,107 Speaker 4: if we want it. 70 00:03:23,387 --> 00:03:25,387 Speaker 2: When you look at the success of your seam bowlers 71 00:03:25,427 --> 00:03:27,627 Speaker 2: and in fact all the same bowlers at this tournament. 72 00:03:28,147 --> 00:03:32,107 Speaker 2: Is the ability to vary pace and in fact to 73 00:03:32,147 --> 00:03:35,387 Speaker 2: take pace off key to bowling well at this tournament 74 00:03:35,467 --> 00:03:37,747 Speaker 2: in terms of taking wickets and keeping the runs down. 75 00:03:38,747 --> 00:03:43,027 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, we've talked about our seamers of trying to 76 00:03:43,107 --> 00:03:45,627 Speaker 4: keep the stumps and players often as we can is 77 00:03:45,707 --> 00:03:48,067 Speaker 4: the wickets are a wee bit up and down in 78 00:03:48,147 --> 00:03:51,067 Speaker 4: terms of very ability of bounce, So that's been important 79 00:03:51,067 --> 00:03:53,667 Speaker 4: to us. But you're right, it's also about when you 80 00:03:53,707 --> 00:03:56,267 Speaker 4: get to those I guess death stages of the innings 81 00:03:56,347 --> 00:04:00,867 Speaker 4: of not being too predictable. I mean, the players these 82 00:04:00,947 --> 00:04:04,787 Speaker 4: days have a great ability to clear the boundary and 83 00:04:04,867 --> 00:04:06,307 Speaker 4: hit the ball out of the park. So I think 84 00:04:06,427 --> 00:04:09,707 Speaker 4: one of the key things is your own predictability and 85 00:04:09,747 --> 00:04:12,147 Speaker 4: setting fields that you do have options for them to 86 00:04:12,907 --> 00:04:15,507 Speaker 4: be able to either go straight or a little bit 87 00:04:15,507 --> 00:04:17,187 Speaker 4: wider if that's the right option as well. 88 00:04:17,627 --> 00:04:20,227 Speaker 2: You have, of course played India already in Paul play. 89 00:04:20,587 --> 00:04:23,227 Speaker 2: It was really the outlier in terms of the Black 90 00:04:23,227 --> 00:04:25,707 Speaker 2: Apps performances at this tournament. Are you able just to 91 00:04:25,747 --> 00:04:27,787 Speaker 2: write that game off as a bad day out or 92 00:04:28,187 --> 00:04:30,707 Speaker 2: can you take things of value from it that will 93 00:04:30,707 --> 00:04:31,667 Speaker 2: be useful in the final. 94 00:04:32,507 --> 00:04:34,227 Speaker 3: To be honest, we weren't that bad that day. 95 00:04:35,147 --> 00:04:38,507 Speaker 4: I thought we bowled really well to restrict India to 96 00:04:38,707 --> 00:04:40,747 Speaker 4: I think it was two forty five or somewhere around 97 00:04:40,787 --> 00:04:44,067 Speaker 4: there was good. We just struggled to get partnerships together 98 00:04:44,147 --> 00:04:47,867 Speaker 4: that day. Other than I guess Caine's aty odd that 99 00:04:47,947 --> 00:04:52,067 Speaker 4: he scored. We just struggled to I guess, yeah, get 100 00:04:52,067 --> 00:04:55,107 Speaker 4: those partnerships and probably slipped a little bit behind the 101 00:04:55,147 --> 00:04:58,187 Speaker 4: run rates. So it's certainly something that we've been talking 102 00:04:58,227 --> 00:05:01,227 Speaker 4: about and if we are in a run chase, how 103 00:05:01,307 --> 00:05:03,427 Speaker 4: we put them under pressure a little bit more, and 104 00:05:03,827 --> 00:05:07,747 Speaker 4: that may mean some slight jigs and batting orders as well, 105 00:05:07,867 --> 00:05:10,947 Speaker 4: just to I guess, try and nullify their strengths as well. 106 00:05:11,387 --> 00:05:13,787 Speaker 2: The batting innings in the semi final against South Africa 107 00:05:13,907 --> 00:05:17,307 Speaker 2: three sixty two for six batting first centuries to write 108 00:05:17,347 --> 00:05:20,827 Speaker 2: in revend racame Williamson, good knocks from Darryl Mitchell and 109 00:05:20,827 --> 00:05:23,987 Speaker 2: Glenn Phillips with strike rates right out there right through 110 00:05:24,027 --> 00:05:27,707 Speaker 2: the innings. Where does that innings rate among the fifty 111 00:05:27,707 --> 00:05:29,627 Speaker 2: over innings you've ever seen as Black Caps coach? 112 00:05:30,427 --> 00:05:32,027 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was obviously very good. 113 00:05:34,187 --> 00:05:36,147 Speaker 4: The nice thing for us is we have all of 114 00:05:36,147 --> 00:05:39,107 Speaker 4: our batsmen are in some really good form at the moment, 115 00:05:39,427 --> 00:05:41,627 Speaker 4: and that's always important in the short tournament like this. 116 00:05:41,867 --> 00:05:44,907 Speaker 4: So I think the build up with the try series 117 00:05:45,547 --> 00:05:49,827 Speaker 4: in against South Africa and Pakistan were important, and now 118 00:05:49,867 --> 00:05:52,787 Speaker 4: it's just around I think us trusting the way that 119 00:05:52,827 --> 00:05:56,307 Speaker 4: we're playing. I think the template, the blueprint that we're 120 00:05:56,307 --> 00:05:59,627 Speaker 4: trying to play has obviously been successful and I think 121 00:05:59,667 --> 00:06:02,587 Speaker 4: the only thing to really remember is the conditions we've 122 00:06:02,587 --> 00:06:06,347 Speaker 4: come from in Pakistan to UAE here are quite different. 123 00:06:06,507 --> 00:06:11,027 Speaker 4: So it's about adapting and adapting fast to the conditions 124 00:06:11,067 --> 00:06:12,507 Speaker 4: tomorrow when we do face India. 125 00:06:12,587 --> 00:06:14,107 Speaker 2: Yeah, law was a bit of a road, wasn't it. 126 00:06:14,427 --> 00:06:16,787 Speaker 2: Dubai not likely to be quite the same as it 127 00:06:17,027 --> 00:06:19,707 Speaker 2: more two fifty two sixty pascore batting. 128 00:06:19,427 --> 00:06:23,907 Speaker 4: First, Yeah, I think the only only real difference to 129 00:06:23,947 --> 00:06:25,787 Speaker 4: that as you saw as you scored to eighty odd 130 00:06:26,467 --> 00:06:29,027 Speaker 4: and India chased that down and it looked like it 131 00:06:29,067 --> 00:06:31,507 Speaker 4: was a better wicket than the one we were on. 132 00:06:32,707 --> 00:06:35,747 Speaker 4: They can sometimes be tricky to read here, the wickets. 133 00:06:35,787 --> 00:06:38,547 Speaker 4: They sometimes look a little bit dull and gray, and 134 00:06:38,587 --> 00:06:41,267 Speaker 4: sometimes they've got a shiny sheen on them. So it's 135 00:06:41,307 --> 00:06:45,027 Speaker 4: really been able to read what's what's right right out there. 136 00:06:45,067 --> 00:06:48,267 Speaker 4: But you're right, the wickets in Pakistan are definitely more 137 00:06:48,307 --> 00:06:52,147 Speaker 4: batter friendly. The three sixty we scored, I think was 138 00:06:52,187 --> 00:06:56,347 Speaker 4: probably forty or fifty runs above par, which which does 139 00:06:56,427 --> 00:06:58,947 Speaker 4: augur well with the form of our batsman. 140 00:06:59,027 --> 00:07:01,627 Speaker 2: Gary with the ball in the fifty over game. We 141 00:07:01,707 --> 00:07:04,547 Speaker 2: know it's about, you know, economy and keeping the runs down, 142 00:07:04,587 --> 00:07:08,307 Speaker 2: but how important is take can wickets add regular intervals 143 00:07:08,627 --> 00:07:10,067 Speaker 2: during a fifty over innings? 144 00:07:10,707 --> 00:07:12,547 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the more you can take wickets, the 145 00:07:12,547 --> 00:07:16,667 Speaker 4: more well one pressure you put on the opposition, But too, 146 00:07:16,707 --> 00:07:20,307 Speaker 4: you make it harder for them to get a really 147 00:07:20,427 --> 00:07:23,587 Speaker 4: competitive sort of death stage at the innings at the ends, 148 00:07:23,587 --> 00:07:25,627 Speaker 4: because you're asking the middle and lower order to do 149 00:07:25,667 --> 00:07:27,587 Speaker 4: that rather than top order batsmen that are in So 150 00:07:28,467 --> 00:07:32,467 Speaker 4: one of our key strategies is around continually taking wickets 151 00:07:32,467 --> 00:07:34,187 Speaker 4: and if it does mean that we go we leak 152 00:07:34,227 --> 00:07:38,387 Speaker 4: a few more runs earlier in that knowledge that we 153 00:07:38,427 --> 00:07:40,707 Speaker 4: are trying to take wickets, then we're prepared to do 154 00:07:40,787 --> 00:07:44,227 Speaker 4: that because we've seen that if you can take early wickets, 155 00:07:44,227 --> 00:07:46,387 Speaker 4: it certainly puts more pressure on the opposition. 156 00:07:46,867 --> 00:07:49,147 Speaker 2: One of your most effective bowlers at this tournament has 157 00:07:49,227 --> 00:07:52,107 Speaker 2: been Michael Brace. While he's your most economic, always going 158 00:07:52,107 --> 00:07:53,387 Speaker 2: for less than four and a half and over his 159 00:07:53,507 --> 00:07:56,707 Speaker 2: bowlers full compliments in pretty much every game he's picked 160 00:07:56,787 --> 00:08:00,027 Speaker 2: up wickets as well, including four against Bangladesh. This is 161 00:08:00,027 --> 00:08:03,267 Speaker 2: a bloke who really only started taking spin bowling seriously 162 00:08:03,787 --> 00:08:05,867 Speaker 2: a few years ago. What have you made of Michael 163 00:08:05,907 --> 00:08:09,227 Speaker 2: brace will emergence as a white ball spiner for you 164 00:08:09,307 --> 00:08:10,027 Speaker 2: in recent years. 165 00:08:10,707 --> 00:08:12,587 Speaker 4: He's done it the last couple of years for us 166 00:08:12,667 --> 00:08:15,947 Speaker 4: and probably more in T twenty cricket, where at times 167 00:08:15,987 --> 00:08:17,947 Speaker 4: he's opened the bowling for us as well and been 168 00:08:17,947 --> 00:08:20,747 Speaker 4: a real strength. But I think one of one of 169 00:08:20,787 --> 00:08:25,187 Speaker 4: Michael's great great strengths is his accuracy. He's nice and tall, 170 00:08:25,467 --> 00:08:29,907 Speaker 4: he gets bounced as well. The Indian players are probably 171 00:08:30,067 --> 00:08:32,467 Speaker 4: more a debt than others in playing off spin, and 172 00:08:32,507 --> 00:08:34,907 Speaker 4: we did see that last time, although he went for 173 00:08:35,427 --> 00:08:37,587 Speaker 4: fifty five or something like that off his ten, but 174 00:08:37,667 --> 00:08:40,427 Speaker 4: still bold pretty well we thought as well. So there's 175 00:08:40,467 --> 00:08:44,587 Speaker 4: really five margins, I guess in having success and not 176 00:08:44,667 --> 00:08:48,467 Speaker 4: having success at times. But he's been really instrumental I 177 00:08:48,507 --> 00:08:50,747 Speaker 4: think in some of the successes that we've had throughout 178 00:08:50,747 --> 00:08:51,307 Speaker 4: this tournament. 179 00:08:51,747 --> 00:08:53,947 Speaker 2: Gary, you've been around the game for a long time 180 00:08:53,987 --> 00:08:57,427 Speaker 2: as a player and as a coach. You've played alongside 181 00:08:57,427 --> 00:09:00,707 Speaker 2: and with many players. You've coached many many players. Where 182 00:09:00,747 --> 00:09:04,307 Speaker 2: does rich and Ravendra wrate among the New Zealand players 183 00:09:04,347 --> 00:09:05,987 Speaker 2: you've seen at his age? 184 00:09:07,387 --> 00:09:07,987 Speaker 3: Right up there? 185 00:09:08,067 --> 00:09:11,587 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no doubt he's a very very special talent 186 00:09:11,707 --> 00:09:16,667 Speaker 4: and has the ability to with the bat anyway to 187 00:09:16,707 --> 00:09:18,747 Speaker 4: score it or run a ball without looking like he's 188 00:09:18,787 --> 00:09:21,147 Speaker 4: taking too much risk. And I think when you can 189 00:09:21,187 --> 00:09:25,427 Speaker 4: do that, he certainly shows the skill sets that he's 190 00:09:25,427 --> 00:09:27,867 Speaker 4: got in his ability to hit all around the ground 191 00:09:28,427 --> 00:09:30,907 Speaker 4: can definitely change a game. But you couple that then 192 00:09:30,947 --> 00:09:34,227 Speaker 4: with his ability to bowl left arm spin and I 193 00:09:34,267 --> 00:09:37,867 Speaker 4: think in these conditions there's every chance he could take 194 00:09:38,707 --> 00:09:41,187 Speaker 4: well take a very big part in the game that's 195 00:09:41,227 --> 00:09:42,027 Speaker 4: coming up tomorrow. 196 00:09:42,707 --> 00:09:45,627 Speaker 2: And as black Caps coach, you've overseen New Zealand at a 197 00:09:45,667 --> 00:09:48,427 Speaker 2: World Cup Final, the fifty over World Cup Final twenty nineteen, 198 00:09:48,467 --> 00:09:52,467 Speaker 2: a Test Championship final, a T twenty World Cup Final. 199 00:09:52,747 --> 00:09:55,347 Speaker 2: How do you feel ahead of this game compared to 200 00:09:55,387 --> 00:09:57,747 Speaker 2: how you remember feeling ahead of those matches. 201 00:09:59,027 --> 00:10:01,947 Speaker 4: I think the more you have those experiences, the more 202 00:10:01,987 --> 00:10:06,107 Speaker 4: you learn that once it gets into the match is 203 00:10:06,107 --> 00:10:08,507 Speaker 4: not actually too much you can control. It's rarely up 204 00:10:08,547 --> 00:10:11,987 Speaker 4: to the preparation and making sure you've got guys in 205 00:10:12,107 --> 00:10:15,227 Speaker 4: good headspace and there's a real belief in what we're doing. 206 00:10:15,427 --> 00:10:18,067 Speaker 3: And I think throughout this tournament you have seen that. 207 00:10:18,227 --> 00:10:23,067 Speaker 4: So we'll I guess, dot our eyes and cross our 208 00:10:23,067 --> 00:10:25,427 Speaker 4: teeth tonight at training and make sure everyone's nice and 209 00:10:25,467 --> 00:10:27,707 Speaker 4: clear on the role and what we're asking them to do, 210 00:10:27,827 --> 00:10:31,427 Speaker 4: and will complete our scouting today of India and make 211 00:10:31,427 --> 00:10:33,267 Speaker 4: sure we've got our plans in action of how we 212 00:10:33,307 --> 00:10:36,507 Speaker 4: want to play. But once the game starts, it's really 213 00:10:36,507 --> 00:10:40,347 Speaker 4: over to the players then, And yeah, you cross your 214 00:10:40,347 --> 00:10:44,147 Speaker 4: fingers and hope that everything you've done has put them 215 00:10:44,147 --> 00:10:46,827 Speaker 4: in the right frame of mind to go out and 216 00:10:46,867 --> 00:10:49,787 Speaker 4: compete and perform and hopefully get the win that we're 217 00:10:49,787 --> 00:10:50,227 Speaker 4: all after. 218 00:10:50,627 --> 00:10:52,107 Speaker 2: Well, it won't surprise you to know that there are 219 00:10:52,107 --> 00:10:54,627 Speaker 2: a lot of people back here stocking up on coffee 220 00:10:54,627 --> 00:10:57,107 Speaker 2: and red ball and whatever it is that keeps them awake, 221 00:10:57,147 --> 00:10:59,787 Speaker 2: getting ready for a ten o'clock start tonight to watch 222 00:11:00,187 --> 00:11:02,427 Speaker 2: the black Caps and Action against India, competing for the 223 00:11:02,587 --> 00:11:05,227 Speaker 2: ICC Champions Trophy. Gary from all of us all the 224 00:11:05,267 --> 00:11:08,547 Speaker 2: best to you and the team. Will be watching through 225 00:11:08,547 --> 00:11:10,227 Speaker 2: the night and wish you all the best. Thanks for 226 00:11:10,267 --> 00:11:11,147 Speaker 2: taking the time for a chat. 227 00:11:11,347 --> 00:11:12,867 Speaker 3: Thanks Barney, cheers Thanks Gary. 228 00:11:12,867 --> 00:11:16,587 Speaker 2: Gary Stead, coach of the black Caps, keeping it keeping 229 00:11:16,587 --> 00:11:19,547 Speaker 2: it cool and calm as usual. You never get too 230 00:11:19,587 --> 00:11:23,987 Speaker 2: many highs and lows from Gary Stead, do you. He's 231 00:11:24,027 --> 00:11:28,347 Speaker 2: fairly considered in his comments and his analysis. 232 00:11:28,947 --> 00:11:32,147 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 233 00:11:32,227 --> 00:11:35,547 Speaker 1: to News Talk st B weekends from midday, or follow 234 00:11:35,587 --> 00:11:37,187 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.