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Speaker 2: Hello, Great New Zealanders, Welcome to Matt and Tyler Full

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Speaker 2: Show podcast number two four nine. I'm a Godness. Tomorrow

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Speaker 2: will be two hundred and fiftieth podcast. Hey, time flies,

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Speaker 2: isn't it? Gee? I remember when it was our first

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Speaker 2: Today, really really enjoyable, enjoyable show today and grass Chat

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Speaker 2: politician property chat.

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Speaker 3: Meet goes through various abuse that he gets via the

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Speaker 3: text machine and just runs it through abrism some.

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Speaker 2: Deep philosophy or shallow philosophy or pop philosophy on how

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Speaker 2: you deal with abuse Because a bunch of people aren't

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Speaker 2: going too politics because they're scared of abuse. Well, I

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Speaker 2: say better that you learn how to deal with abuse,

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Speaker 2: then expect the universe to change such that it fits

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Speaker 2: your preferences.

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Speaker 1: You big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons News.

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Speaker 3: Talk said, be today to you, Welcome into Monday show.

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Speaker 3: Hope you had a fantastic weekend, whether was on point

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Speaker 3: in most places around the country.

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Speaker 2: You doing Matt are very good. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Great New Zealanders. Now, were Tyler doing some succulents?

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Speaker 3: No, I'd prefer not. But if yuckers yuckers, definitely, No yuckers.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you do with yuckers.

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Speaker 2: I've just moved into my new house and there is

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Speaker 2: so many succulents and yukis. They are like aliens. How

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Speaker 2: are succulents of which yuckers are one? How are they

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Speaker 2: They're just such superior plants to other plants. They're horrible,

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Speaker 2: but they can just grow anywhere where everything else is struggling.

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Speaker 2: Yuckers are just on fire. It's like they're aliens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's something about when you've got adversity in your life,

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Speaker 3: like yuckers do, because everybody hates them. So eitherbody tries

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Speaker 3: to just you know, absolutely destroy them, then they bounce

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Speaker 3: back harder and faster. Maybe it is when they live

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Speaker 3: under the challenge of life that yuckers. Right then they

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Speaker 3: back with vengeance and just keep growing right.

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Speaker 2: What doesn't class makes us stronger. The dump won't even

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Speaker 2: take succulents or yuckers because they're so evil and they're

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Speaker 2: so powerful that you can't even you can't even drop

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Speaker 2: them off of the dump need a priest to get

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Speaker 2: rid of them. But I was just when I was

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Speaker 2: around at your house at the fantastic barbecue you had

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Speaker 2: all the sausages on the barbecue that I lint you

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Speaker 2: to user Era, that's a different issue. It runs hot,

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Speaker 2: I'll say it runs very hot. I noticed in your

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Speaker 2: property there's quite a few areas where I could duck

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Speaker 2: dump some succulents.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well, thank you for noticing that, because I

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Speaker 3: was going to say, I don't really want the yuckers.

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Speaker 3: But I've got access to Mount Albert Reserve and it's

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Speaker 3: I'm not immune to just throwing a bit of grass

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Speaker 3: clippings and a bit of stuff. I don't just right

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Speaker 3: at the bottom, right at the bottom.

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Speaker 2: If you throw just like one peeled off succulent leaf.

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Speaker 2: Then within about three years, the entirety of Mount hel

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Speaker 3: Noah, I could take it a little bit further down

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Speaker 3: the fenceway, but yeah, off is there.

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Speaker 2: I think you can do that. I think that's okay.

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Speaker 2: So what do you do with succulents? If you can't

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Speaker 3: You can't burn them. Very difficult to poison them. I

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you're poison them, you've still got

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Speaker 2: Few to get rid of. You know what they say, yuckers.

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Speaker 3: Good save, good save. Yeah, yeah, very good. Right on

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Speaker 3: to today's show, Well, speaking about looking after your guard

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Speaker 3: and we want to actually have a chat about lawn tips.

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Speaker 3: How do you get the best lawn if you've got

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Speaker 2: after three, We hit the big topics on Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler afternoons on Newstalk z'b after two though, Syler.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this will be a really good chat. Actually, So

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Speaker 3: Auckland councilor Julie Faery. She's spoken of the abuse she's

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Speaker 3: But it seems like a lot of elected members up

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Speaker 3: but they've told her straight that they will not stand

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Speaker 3: because of fear of abuse.

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Speaker 2: Week. Should people be scared of abuse? Should we be

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Speaker 2: saying that people don't get into politics. You scared of abuse?

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Speaker 2: I mean, threats are one thing. Obviously, threats need to

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Speaker 2: isn't it better to learn to deal with abuse. Isn't

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Speaker 2: that what you're supposed to do. If you believe in something,

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Speaker 2: then you go into local body or central government ready

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Speaker 2: to take the slings and arrows for the cause. Because

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Speaker 2: don't abuse you. It's just not going to happen.

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Speaker 3: If you're in the public eye, you cannot escape it.

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Speaker 2: So you're going to learn to do If you're walking

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Speaker 2: Better to learn how to deal with abuse rather than

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Speaker 2: to any kind of insult. I just don't think it's possible.

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Speaker 2: You know there's always going to be abuse. Do you

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Speaker 2: want to you think you can change people or change yourself?

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Speaker 2: I guess would be the question. I've got to say interesting,

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Speaker 2: that's going to be quite a lot of abuse, because

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Speaker 2: the abuse of people abuse a lot. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: look at our text machine, like ninety nine percent of

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Speaker 2: it is lovely stuff, but there's there's some abuse comes

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Speaker 2: through every day. We're constantly getting hassled. Maybe ninety percent

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Speaker 2: come through and sults like there's a bunch coming through now.

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Speaker 3: And it's the same people. You're right, Then you go

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they're the same people that are abusing you

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Speaker 2: the weekend, the weekend collective. Yep, they'll be. They'll be

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Speaker 2: then they'll be abusing their counselor it's an abuse for

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Speaker 2: three going on. So are you going to you're going

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Speaker 2: going to deal with the reality of the universe and

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Speaker 2: harden up? That will be my question.

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Speaker 3: That's going to be interesting after talk clob But right now,

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Speaker 3: let's have a chat about the properties that our politicians own.

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Speaker 3: So a dive by The New Zealand Herald has worked

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Speaker 3: out that combined MPs are worth three hundred and seventy

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Speaker 3: That's an average of three million bucks across each of

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Speaker 3: I'll just go through the top three. Actually, do we

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Speaker 3: even want to name them? No, I'll go through the

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Speaker 3: top three. So the first one was Susie Redmain. She

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Speaker 3: four point three million dollars with a property.

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Speaker 2: But one of those is a farm, right correct, So

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Speaker 2: And the interesting thing about this whole list is it

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Speaker 2: doesn't take into account debt. Right, No, good point, very

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Speaker 2: good point. So do we want like because the question,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess the implicit suggestion here in this

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Speaker 2: that they may make decisions that are more focused towards

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Speaker 3: So chrisph Luxen was next at fifteen point two million dollars,

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Speaker 3: and then Barbara Crue Taranaki King Country fourteen point six million,

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Speaker 3: so again a couple of farmers there, and a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right one hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two

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Speaker 2: Or do you think there's there's an upper limited property

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Speaker 2: and then they changed that obviously. Do you think it

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Speaker 2: it would be crazy to say that we don't want

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Speaker 3: Exactly more so if anything, but I one hundred and

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Speaker 3: see a politician on that list and they don't own

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Speaker 3: any property, I'd probably question that more to say where

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Speaker 2: What age politician?

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Speaker 3: Look if they're a newcomer and they're in their late twenties,

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Speaker 3: Because that's what we're told from an early age is

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Speaker 3: that's how you can get ahead in life. It's not

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Speaker 3: but it is something that you can look at at

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Speaker 2: Is a bit of anistic.

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Speaker 3: That's what we've always been told in this country is

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Speaker 3: that's the way to get on the property ladder and

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Speaker 3: build them wealth.

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Speaker 2: But the argument I guess that's been put through there

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Speaker 3: The number come on through and that teachs number as

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Speaker 2: But let's get into this.

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Speaker 3: Do you care how much property your local politician or

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 4: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

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Speaker 3: It'd be very good afternoon to you. So we are

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Speaker 2: Do you care?

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

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Speaker 2: The sixty dozen? Sorry I've already texted, but this is

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Speaker 2: the same as the tobacco interests problem, sayss text. The

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Speaker 2: Of course, it's all National Act with the property. Okay,

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Speaker 3: What's the mortgage on that Celia way Brown for the

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Speaker 3: as well. Nine two nine two is that text number?

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Speaker 3: Get a Scott's Oh.

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Speaker 5: Boys, you've just stolen the thunder?

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Speaker 6: Ah?

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Speaker 5: Well see you readmade and Barbara Kuruger what's the mortgage

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Speaker 2: It's a good question, and I don't know if they've

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Speaker 5: No, jealous didn't do any investigation into it.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's crucial, isn't it. That's a crucial part

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Speaker 5: Just a quick question, man, how much is your place

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Speaker 2: I couldn't possibly say, luckily, you know what, Luckily Scott

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Speaker 5: And what's your sorry Tyler, what's your place worth?

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Speaker 2: My property is worth a lot more since I cleared

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Speaker 5: Bottom bottom line is I don't care what your places

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Speaker 5: That's a third world question that we're dealing in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd prefer I mean, does that say to you

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Speaker 5: I don't know. Do they come to the city Redman

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Speaker 3: Barbara Krueger definitely does I know that she's She's been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the original thing you're like one of the other

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know absolutely so whoever wrote that story, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think we absolutely a few people would

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Speaker 2: Would you would you be big enough and ethically right

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Speaker 5: Hard to see, it would be hard to envisage a

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Speaker 5: But it's very simple for an MP, if that they

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Speaker 5: I mean, there has been very little legislation introduced which

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Speaker 5: it didn't affect a lot of landlords who run their

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Speaker 2: You know, you're nearly everyone in parliament.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you, of course Scott appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Interesting point just on the you know, whether they've got

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Speaker 3: they're not voting for self interest, They're voting to represent

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Speaker 2: Have you ever taken a stance on talkback radio that

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Speaker 1: All the time, the headlines and the hard questions. It's

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Speaker 2: I'm listening to Heather Duplicy, Allen, He's coming for you. Look,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that is the case. He is a

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Speaker 2: Where has all this come from him?

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Speaker 2: It's hard to take it seriously. As I said before,

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Speaker 2: You will lead the National Party to the elections in

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Speaker 3: So we're talking about the properties that politicians own, and

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Speaker 3: there's been a bit of a deep dive in the

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Speaker 2: Or the reverse, Guys, I'm worried about the large representation

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Speaker 2: I would, as you said, Tyler, And I don't know

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Speaker 2: If you've got a drug problem, well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I'll judge them and say there's something going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've got a dark past. I mean,

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Speaker 2: But if you're a politician and you're putting your hand

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Speaker 3: you get paid at least one hundred and eighty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Most of them are on more than that.

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Speaker 3: If that, if you can't afford a mortgage on that,

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Speaker 3: it's just one salary, then you've you know, sometimes got

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Speaker 3: a partner who's earning income as well.

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Speaker 2: But even if you get but especially if you go

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Speaker 2: into politics in late life, so if you're looking around

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Speaker 2: at the world and going, I haven't managed to get

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Speaker 2: a house, but I'm the kind of person that can

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Speaker 2: make the kind of right decisions that mean I should

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Speaker 2: be in Parliament. Yeah, exactly. I mean there's probably a

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Speaker 2: logical floor in there, and someone can point that out

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Speaker 2: on eight hundred and eighteen eighty. But my I'd look

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Speaker 2: at them and go, why gambling problem?

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Speaker 3: Right, we're a little bit late to the headlines, but

447
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Speaker 3: we've got full wards at the moment. If you can't

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Speaker 3: get through, keep trying. After the headlines, we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: a chet with Trevor. He's not happy with Willy Jackson.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why he's not happy with Willy Jackson,

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Speaker 3: but we're gonna find out.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be good, all right. That's coming up.

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Speaker 3: It is twenty eight to two.

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Speaker 8: Jus talk sa'd be headlines with blue bubble taxi. There's

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Speaker 8: no trouble with a blue bubble. New building measures announced

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Speaker 8: today require a home warranty for all homes three stories

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Speaker 8: unless and renovations costing one hundred thousand dollars or more.

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Speaker 8: Designers will need indemnity insurance and fines will double for

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Speaker 8: licensed building practitioners. Up to fifteen thousand passengers could be

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Speaker 8: disrupted if any New Zealand cabin crew strikes go ahead

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Speaker 8: on December eighth over salaries and allowance. Its Its CEO

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Speaker 8: says flight cancelations are possible, but he hopes the industrial

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Speaker 8: action won't go ahead. Our report has revealed government agency

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Speaker 8: environmental spending is significantly down from about three point six

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Speaker 8: billion dollars in the past two years. Just two point

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Speaker 8: six billion has been allocated for twenty twenty five and

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty six. All day parking is getting cheaper in

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Speaker 8: parts of central Hamilton City from today, where parks are

469
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Speaker 8: less than eighty five percent full. All New Zealand's Great

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Speaker 8: walks are officially open for the summer season, with whether

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Speaker 8: related issues resolve for the Milford, Kepler and Routburn tracks.

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Speaker 8: Plus deeply saddening Iconic wellness business put into liquidation after

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Speaker 8: one point three million loss. Find out more at ends

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Speaker 8: at Herald Premium. Now back to mattin Tyler.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Wendy.

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Speaker 3: So we are talking about a story in the Herald

477
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Speaker 3: it breaks down how much property politicians own and gives

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Speaker 3: a value to that. But Bryce Edwards, he's a political

479
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Speaker 3: analyst and he was speaking to Ryan Bridge this morning

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Speaker 3: and Ryan asks Ryan, excuse me why we should care?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean obviously there's some curiosity about what MPs own,

482
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Speaker 9: but it has some big ramifications for democracy, for policy making,

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Speaker 9: for housing justice, for I guess the trust of voters

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Speaker 9: in their representatives. Because this really shows that we have

485
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Speaker 9: a parliament of a very rich well three hundred and

486
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Speaker 9: eighty million dollars worth collectively or average three million dollars

487
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Speaker 9: in property each MP. This does mean that these aren't

488
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Speaker 9: ordinary citizens and that they when they're making decisions on

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Speaker 9: housing it, you know, there can be something of a

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Speaker 9: conflict of interest and it might explain why we don't

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Speaker 9: have some big changes to affordable housing over every parliament.

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Speaker 2: Essentially, it's an interesting thing. I mean, he's a very

493
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Speaker 2: smart man and I still love when he collated all

494
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Speaker 2: the news together. But a what's housing justice? It's a

495
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Speaker 2: new catchphrase and heard but do you want parliament? He

496
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Speaker 2: says that these aren't ordinary new Zealanders for a starter.

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Speaker 2: Push back on that a little bit, and that sixty

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Speaker 2: six percent of New Zealander's own property sixty six percent, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so so you know you are in the you are

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Speaker 2: with the majority of New Zealanders if your two thirds right,

501
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Speaker 2: And that's up from that, that's down from high. The

502
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Speaker 2: highest ever property ownership was I think nineteen nineteen it

503
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Speaker 2: was seventy one, So we're pretty high up. I mean,

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Speaker 2: property ownership hasn't really dropped off, right, so you're not

505
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Speaker 2: really you are pretty ordinary if your own property. And

506
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Speaker 2: also don't you want extraordinary people? Their politics wouldn't by

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Speaker 2: their definition, the people that become MPs be above average

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Speaker 2: and their achievement in life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever see a blurb on any politician place

511
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Speaker 3: say I haven't really done anything in life. I'm just

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Speaker 3: happy to be here. I mean you look at that

513
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Speaker 3: and thinking, cheapers, how did that guy get there?

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Speaker 2: Or lady, I'm representing people that have achieved nothing, because

515
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Speaker 2: I have achieved nothing. Trevor, Welcome to the show. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: tell you very good, Thank you.

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Speaker 10: I want to talk about a couple of politicians have

518
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Speaker 10: got time mainly on the thought that I have that.

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Speaker 10: In general, I'm saying, in general, left wing politicians are

520
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Speaker 10: anti landlords, anti super rich people because they're out of

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Speaker 10: touch with real life. And in general, generally speaking exclusively

522
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Speaker 10: right wing politicians sort of applaud that and take a

523
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Speaker 10: different positive attitude to it. And a couple of people

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Speaker 10: I want to mention as Willy Jackson. I mean, I

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Speaker 10: just find old Willy. I think he owns four properties

526
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Speaker 10: linked with family, you know, listed on the family and

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Speaker 10: you know, and of course I've heard the rhetoric out

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Speaker 10: of Willy greedy landlords, why do you want more than

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Speaker 10: one house and.

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Speaker 6: Stuff like that, And Willy's sitting there with four properties.

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Speaker 10: And I just want to know if Willy's going to

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Speaker 10: vote for the capital gains tax if it comes in.

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Speaker 11: I want to know of Willy.

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Speaker 10: As soon as it happened, he started claiming back refunds

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Speaker 10: on his proper You know that the labor that the

536
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Speaker 10: National Party brought in, that labor hated, you know, talky

537
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Speaker 10: rich land, We're giving tax cuts the landlords.

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Speaker 11: I'm just wondering of.

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Speaker 10: Willy very quickly started to claim all the costs he

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Speaker 10: could do on his properties. And you know, I think

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Speaker 10: if he asked Willy. He would probably say, oh, I

542
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Speaker 10: don't do that. I leave it to my accountant, to

543
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Speaker 10: which we laugh when they come up with an answer

544
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Speaker 10: like that, and another person in the monton is just

545
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Speaker 10: sinda done. Look, I just remember just in the you know,

546
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Speaker 10: she programmed all of her life, she focused all of

547
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Speaker 10: her political life on a capital gains tax, and then

548
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Speaker 10: when she got into power and had total utter control

549
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Speaker 10: to vote that in capital gains tax, especially in the

550
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Speaker 10: second term. They didn't even want the Greens justin to

551
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Speaker 10: come out and tell New Zealand, kepital gains tax will

552
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Speaker 10: not will not come under under or under power when

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Speaker 10: when I'm the leader.

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Speaker 2: Do you think there was Do you think there was

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Speaker 2: a political move ever in that it doesn't help your

556
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Speaker 2: position polling wise, and on election day if you you know,

557
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Speaker 2: as we said before, sixty six percent of people own properties,

558
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Speaker 2: so at capital gains tax is unpopular. Did you think

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Speaker 2: it was for financial personal financial gain or for political capital?

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Speaker 10: Well you did, right, I mean if it's political like

561
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Speaker 10: she sort of said that first and forellnos, not that

562
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Speaker 10: she really wanted to do it because of her political future.

563
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Speaker 10: You know, that's just not the cinder. We know she

564
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Speaker 10: was lovely, she'd never mislead anybody. She is truthful, she

565
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Speaker 10: was honest, and I'd like to know with Jasinda and

566
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Speaker 10: absolutely good honor because I'm on the other side of

567
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Speaker 10: this God on all the money she's made and the

568
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Speaker 10: money she's making now. You know she talks to groups

569
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Speaker 10: of people overseas where she can get in the hundreds

570
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Speaker 10: of thousands of people talking to a group of people.

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Speaker 10: Her husband was a successful TV star.

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Speaker 12: Or movie star.

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Speaker 10: And I would love to know it's just in any

574
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Speaker 10: just inquisitive. Really, he wouldn't love to know inquisitive has

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Speaker 10: just sender got any money involved in property?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, she has house in Mount Hell but I believe.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's Robert.

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Speaker 2: Is that the only one I don't know? See that

579
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Speaker 2: now she's now now, now she's out of parliament, she

580
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Speaker 2: doesn't have to declare any of this kind of stuff.

581
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Speaker 2: And yeah, she's absolutely doing very very well overseas. Commands

582
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Speaker 2: a good price, she's making bank Yeah, yeah, mate, guys.

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Speaker 10: Can you call Willy? And I asked Willy as soon

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Speaker 10: as he could, did he start getting the tax rebates

585
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Speaker 10: on his rental properties that apparently labor hated National for

586
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Speaker 10: bringing in because I was giving money to faulty landlords,

587
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Speaker 10: faulty rich landlords.

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Speaker 11: Ring WILLI I ask him, is.

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Speaker 10: He get on the gravy train and collected that money back?

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Speaker 10: And does he charge market rents for his properties? Or

591
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Speaker 10: is he a nice time land rule that he tries

592
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Speaker 10: out to me that he gives people properties under the

593
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Speaker 10: value of what the market says? A lovely dance.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'll tell you what. We'll we'll reach out

595
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Speaker 2: to Willie Jackson and see if you'll talk to us.

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Speaker 3: Willie, if you're listening, well you're Willie wille oh eight

597
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Speaker 3: hundred You.

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Speaker 2: Know what that references? You won't it's Journy's no TV show, elf?

599
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Speaker 3: Okay, you're will It's very good. Yeah, that was a

600
00:29:25,253 --> 00:29:26,893
Speaker 3: great TV show by the way. Yeah, all right, we'll

601
00:29:26,893 --> 00:29:28,133
Speaker 3: try and get ahold of Willie Jackson.

602
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Speaker 2: According to this list that was in the Herald today,

603
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Speaker 2: Willie Jackson sits at number seventeen on the Politician's property list,

604
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Speaker 2: worth five point six million dollars worth of property.

605
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Speaker 3: Nice for Willie oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

606
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Speaker 3: the number to call. Coming up next, we have a

607
00:29:42,333 --> 00:29:44,653
Speaker 3: chat with Mark, who thinks it's pathetic envy.

608
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Speaker 2: It is eighteen to two.

609
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Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

610
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Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News

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Speaker 1: Talk said, be.

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Speaker 3: It is tune your mic on Tyler, it is a

613
00:29:56,813 --> 00:29:59,253
Speaker 3: quarter to turn. And we're talking about politicians property, A

614
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Speaker 3: big deep dive in the Herald sees how much they own.

615
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Speaker 3: But why should we care?

616
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Speaker 5: Now?

617
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Speaker 2: This is a good pushback on something I said. I've

618
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Speaker 2: achieved a lot. I've saved people's lives. I've protected New Zealanders,

619
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Speaker 2: dangerous murderers and put a few inside too. I think

620
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Speaker 2: I've achieved more than many ever will. But I have

621
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Speaker 2: absolutely nothing to show for it. But I've achieved a lot. Yes,

622
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Speaker 2: So we were talking before about how and I said

623
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Speaker 2: that there's probably a logical flaw in it. But if

624
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Speaker 2: I saw a politician in Parliament that didn't own a

625
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Speaker 2: property and they were renting and they were like, let's

626
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Speaker 2: say forty eight, I'd be lying, have you got a

627
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Speaker 2: gambling problem?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

629
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Speaker 2: What happened in your past? Do you enjoy a little

630
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Speaker 2: bit of the old you know, nose candy? You know

631
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Speaker 2: what's your problem?

632
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Speaker 5: Yep?

633
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Speaker 2: But that's a very good point, they pointed out. But

634
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Speaker 2: on their resume they said that they had devoted their

635
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Speaker 2: life to something, so they had achieved a lot. Like

636
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Speaker 2: this person a text. It would be a totally different

637
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Speaker 2: thing if on their resume to get elect elected, if

638
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Speaker 2: they listed what they had achieved and it was putting

639
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Speaker 2: this many murderers away, helping this many people, and they

640
00:30:59,933 --> 00:31:03,213
Speaker 2: did it selflessly, and they haven't earned a lot of money,

641
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Speaker 2: then I'd be like, well, that's an awesome achievement and

642
00:31:05,853 --> 00:31:07,973
Speaker 2: you deserve to be in parliament because you've achieved something,

643
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Speaker 2: as you said, Tyler. If they haven't achieved anything, if

644
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Speaker 2: they on the on their on their blurb that said

645
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Speaker 2: haven't really done much, and I'm representing the people haven't

646
00:31:17,533 --> 00:31:22,013
Speaker 2: really done much, you'd be like, wow, yeah, that's not great.

647
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Speaker 2: Go on mate, Yes, yeah it's not. It's not all

648
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Speaker 2: property and money. I agree with that, But people like

649
00:31:26,853 --> 00:31:29,293
Speaker 2: that person absolutely, Mark, how are you?

650
00:31:30,453 --> 00:31:30,653
Speaker 5: Hey?

651
00:31:31,293 --> 00:31:32,973
Speaker 2: You very good? What do you reckon?

652
00:31:34,133 --> 00:31:36,973
Speaker 13: It's just we've got a chronic case in this country

653
00:31:37,013 --> 00:31:39,813
Speaker 13: of tall poppy syndrome, but we keep trying to cut

654
00:31:39,853 --> 00:31:41,013
Speaker 13: people down for doing well.

655
00:31:41,013 --> 00:31:41,573
Speaker 5: And I just.

656
00:31:43,453 --> 00:31:47,173
Speaker 13: Have a brain and make money and and go ahead

657
00:31:47,173 --> 00:31:49,773
Speaker 13: and life should be celebrated, not always pat down at

658
00:31:49,773 --> 00:31:50,253
Speaker 13: the knees.

659
00:31:51,693 --> 00:31:54,493
Speaker 2: Yes, it'd be interesting if this was listed the other

660
00:31:54,493 --> 00:31:58,013
Speaker 2: way round, so you instead of going from biggest proper

661
00:31:58,133 --> 00:32:02,893
Speaker 2: property portfolio, you went from lowest up and be interested.

662
00:32:03,133 --> 00:32:06,533
Speaker 2: People thought about that judgment because there is an implicit

663
00:32:06,653 --> 00:32:07,893
Speaker 2: judgment in this list, isn't there?

664
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Speaker 4: Mark?

665
00:32:09,373 --> 00:32:09,893
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah?

666
00:32:09,933 --> 00:32:12,813
Speaker 13: And I mean we do it with everything, whether it's sport.

667
00:32:12,933 --> 00:32:16,933
Speaker 13: We're so so quick to jump on people and being successful.

668
00:32:17,533 --> 00:32:19,133
Speaker 13: You know, they only have to put one toe out

669
00:32:19,133 --> 00:32:21,013
Speaker 13: of the line and they get jumped on. Now, we

670
00:32:21,013 --> 00:32:24,413
Speaker 13: should be proud and happy that we're doing well and

671
00:32:24,493 --> 00:32:27,653
Speaker 13: people can get ahead and do things well, not try

672
00:32:27,693 --> 00:32:29,773
Speaker 13: and hold people back. And let's seems to be what's

673
00:32:29,773 --> 00:32:30,893
Speaker 13: happening at the moment.

674
00:32:31,053 --> 00:32:32,853
Speaker 3: You get on your mart Do you think part of

675
00:32:32,893 --> 00:32:35,933
Speaker 3: it is that, look, politicians trust has gone down a

676
00:32:35,933 --> 00:32:38,173
Speaker 3: little bit. But there's something in people's mind when they

677
00:32:38,213 --> 00:32:41,973
Speaker 3: think of politicians that they don't deserve to have the

678
00:32:42,013 --> 00:32:44,333
Speaker 3: wealth that they've got, or they get worried about how

679
00:32:44,413 --> 00:32:47,733
Speaker 3: much politicians get paid. Where I would hope that someone

680
00:32:47,773 --> 00:32:50,253
Speaker 3: like Peter Beek, for example, he's now a billionaire and

681
00:32:50,293 --> 00:32:52,933
Speaker 3: you see what he's done with that company, and I'm

682
00:32:52,973 --> 00:32:55,373
Speaker 3: sure there are some tool poppy out there people out there.

683
00:32:55,373 --> 00:32:58,733
Speaker 3: When it comes to own house, I'm imagine he owns

684
00:32:59,053 --> 00:33:03,293
Speaker 3: multiple scarm scarm. But there's something about when people think

685
00:33:03,293 --> 00:33:07,653
Speaker 3: about politicians. It is politicians solely who get slammed from

686
00:33:07,693 --> 00:33:10,173
Speaker 3: having anything thing. I've got a house, How dare you?

687
00:33:10,213 --> 00:33:11,973
Speaker 3: How did you get there? Why do you deserve that?

688
00:33:12,133 --> 00:33:13,933
Speaker 3: So what is it about our mentality when it comes

689
00:33:13,933 --> 00:33:14,613
Speaker 3: to politicians?

690
00:33:15,253 --> 00:33:18,933
Speaker 2: Well, I think the thing is tyler the as Bryce

691
00:33:19,013 --> 00:33:22,413
Speaker 2: Edwards was suggesting that you will vote in a way

692
00:33:22,453 --> 00:33:26,013
Speaker 2: to protect your portfolio. But you know, you couldn't argue

693
00:33:26,013 --> 00:33:29,093
Speaker 2: that anywhere. If you if you see if a politician

694
00:33:29,213 --> 00:33:31,773
Speaker 2: rides up to Parliament and a horse, you like this guy,

695
00:33:31,973 --> 00:33:34,893
Speaker 2: this guy is going to be voting uh you know

696
00:33:35,253 --> 00:33:39,373
Speaker 2: pro horse, pr Yeah, you know pro horse. You know

697
00:33:39,653 --> 00:33:42,293
Speaker 2: if you saw David Seymour vaping out the front of Parliament,

698
00:33:42,293 --> 00:33:45,613
Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, he's going to vote pro voping. You know,

699
00:33:45,733 --> 00:33:48,253
Speaker 2: just living in the country, you are affected by everything

700
00:33:48,253 --> 00:33:50,573
Speaker 2: in the country, aren't you. Yep, so you're you are

701
00:33:50,573 --> 00:33:56,013
Speaker 2: going to vote within your your principles. And I mean,

702
00:33:56,093 --> 00:33:58,973
Speaker 2: is there anyone in Parliament that has zero self interest.

703
00:33:59,133 --> 00:34:02,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, good point, Dan, what do you reckon about this?

704
00:34:03,533 --> 00:34:09,933
Speaker 14: I've always enjoy your show. Thank you, curiosity.

705
00:34:09,973 --> 00:34:10,893
Speaker 2: Good question.

706
00:34:11,172 --> 00:34:13,413
Speaker 3: Let's do a bit of a deep dive here because

707
00:34:13,413 --> 00:34:15,733
Speaker 3: I've just listed the top ten and he's not quite

708
00:34:15,773 --> 00:34:22,652
Speaker 3: in that in that arena, but Chris Hopkin's property standby,

709
00:34:23,413 --> 00:34:26,933
Speaker 3: so so here we go. So he's a trustee of

710
00:34:27,133 --> 00:34:29,053
Speaker 3: a family trust. So they've got a family home in

711
00:34:29,133 --> 00:34:34,533
Speaker 3: upper Huts that's jointly owned. They've got a Rumadi self

712
00:34:34,573 --> 00:34:37,853
Speaker 3: property and that's owned by a trust in. Both properties

713
00:34:37,853 --> 00:34:39,812
Speaker 3: have mortgages with WISPEC Bank.

714
00:34:39,933 --> 00:34:42,373
Speaker 2: Doesn't he have a bat? Isn't he doesn't he run

715
00:34:42,413 --> 00:34:43,093
Speaker 2: a batch as well?

716
00:34:43,213 --> 00:34:46,252
Speaker 3: That's the one in Romati, that's the bats.

717
00:34:46,333 --> 00:34:46,813
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

718
00:34:46,853 --> 00:34:50,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so two properties and in terms of the

719
00:34:50,613 --> 00:34:51,533
Speaker 3: extra valuable I do.

720
00:34:51,613 --> 00:34:53,813
Speaker 2: Not like to talk about politicians' private life, but hasn't

721
00:34:53,813 --> 00:34:57,093
Speaker 2: he recently gone through a separation with his wife? He has,

722
00:34:57,173 --> 00:35:00,133
Speaker 2: and he's got this this new partner on the go. Yeah,

723
00:35:00,293 --> 00:35:04,693
Speaker 2: so it's just proposed, so he not speaking from an experience,

724
00:35:05,213 --> 00:35:09,573
Speaker 2: but speaking of experience, you can half your money pretty

725
00:35:09,573 --> 00:35:13,013
Speaker 2: easily when that happens. What's Tony brings on the table. Yeah,

726
00:35:13,093 --> 00:35:15,373
Speaker 2: so so what do you think about that, Dan, Where

727
00:35:15,413 --> 00:35:16,293
Speaker 2: Hopkins sits on the.

728
00:35:16,213 --> 00:35:19,853
Speaker 14: List, Well, it's he's a bloody hypocrite, you know. I

729
00:35:19,893 --> 00:35:22,413
Speaker 14: mean to say, you know, I don't like the guy anyway,

730
00:35:22,653 --> 00:35:27,333
Speaker 14: but it's as soon as somebody or anything that happens

731
00:35:27,373 --> 00:35:30,293
Speaker 14: that it's good as well that they said to slam it.

732
00:35:30,493 --> 00:35:34,933
Speaker 14: And no doubt he'll do luxon eventually.

733
00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:35,293
Speaker 3: Well.

734
00:35:35,333 --> 00:35:38,093
Speaker 2: Well, to be fair, Dan, Chris Hopkins hasn't put together

735
00:35:38,133 --> 00:35:41,093
Speaker 2: this list. It's Chris Knocks for the Insured Herald that's

736
00:35:41,093 --> 00:35:42,013
Speaker 2: put together this list.

737
00:35:43,093 --> 00:35:45,893
Speaker 14: No, no, no, no. What I'm playing is that he he'll

738
00:35:45,933 --> 00:35:48,733
Speaker 14: come out for sure and criticized Lucks and prehaddant.

739
00:35:49,693 --> 00:35:52,212
Speaker 2: Oh yeah he has. Yeah, it's that about a month

740
00:35:52,253 --> 00:35:54,453
Speaker 2: ago he did. Yeah, you're right, you're right, Dan. He

741
00:35:54,493 --> 00:35:57,772
Speaker 2: has been hitting him on on his wealth, yeah, which

742
00:35:57,813 --> 00:36:00,613
Speaker 2: is yeah, you know that only works for that only

743
00:36:00,613 --> 00:36:03,333
Speaker 2: works for his base. I guess there are certain people

744
00:36:03,333 --> 00:36:05,053
Speaker 2: in the place, but you know, there are you know,

745
00:36:05,093 --> 00:36:06,813
Speaker 2: I mean, Willie Jackson's got a lot of property there,

746
00:36:06,853 --> 00:36:09,013
Speaker 2: there are there are labor people that doing very well.

747
00:36:09,293 --> 00:36:11,413
Speaker 2: And you know Chris Hipkins, he's got a beach house

748
00:36:11,493 --> 00:36:15,013
Speaker 2: that's done pretty well exactly. But I wouldn't progudge him

749
00:36:15,053 --> 00:36:17,053
Speaker 2: for doing well either. No, you know, I mean you could,

750
00:36:17,093 --> 00:36:19,813
Speaker 2: you could point out that that's hypocritical for him to

751
00:36:19,893 --> 00:36:24,933
Speaker 2: hassel Luxan when Hopkins is doing better than most. But

752
00:36:25,733 --> 00:36:27,573
Speaker 2: I think you know, if you're if you're on the

753
00:36:27,933 --> 00:36:30,893
Speaker 2: side of things where you think that people doing well

754
00:36:31,573 --> 00:36:36,172
Speaker 2: is a qualification for parliament, then the fact that Chris

755
00:36:36,253 --> 00:36:39,413
Speaker 2: Hipkins has done well from himself is not any reason

756
00:36:39,453 --> 00:36:41,453
Speaker 2: to dislike him, even if he's on left or right.

757
00:36:41,533 --> 00:36:43,773
Speaker 3: Right, Key, we dream, I'd love your batch. Right, it

758
00:36:43,933 --> 00:36:46,373
Speaker 3: is eight minutes to two, beg very shortly. Keen to

759
00:36:46,373 --> 00:36:49,013
Speaker 3: get your views on Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

760
00:36:50,453 --> 00:36:54,013
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

761
00:36:54,093 --> 00:36:57,373
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

762
00:36:57,533 --> 00:36:58,013
Speaker 1: news talk.

763
00:36:58,053 --> 00:37:01,373
Speaker 3: Sa'd be very good afternoon, ju Peter, We've got about

764
00:37:01,413 --> 00:37:02,333
Speaker 3: sixty seconds.

765
00:37:02,333 --> 00:37:03,253
Speaker 2: You reckon. It's a beat up.

766
00:37:04,893 --> 00:37:05,853
Speaker 15: Oh one hundred percent.

767
00:37:06,013 --> 00:37:06,692
Speaker 7: It's a beat up.

768
00:37:08,373 --> 00:37:11,172
Speaker 3: So you don't care at all how many properties any

769
00:37:11,173 --> 00:37:12,693
Speaker 3: politician owns.

770
00:37:13,453 --> 00:37:17,013
Speaker 15: People always forget that there's a hell of a lot

771
00:37:17,013 --> 00:37:20,133
Speaker 15: of people in New Zealand that absolutely need to rent

772
00:37:20,173 --> 00:37:23,533
Speaker 15: because they simply can't afford to buy a property. They're

773
00:37:23,613 --> 00:37:26,333
Speaker 15: twenty three years old, they've just got their first job,

774
00:37:26,933 --> 00:37:31,413
Speaker 15: and the country desperately relies on people to be able

775
00:37:31,453 --> 00:37:35,293
Speaker 15: to afford to have rental properties. And why should we

776
00:37:35,373 --> 00:37:38,652
Speaker 15: be prying into these guys. It's just if I was

777
00:37:39,533 --> 00:37:42,292
Speaker 15: that way inclined to want to be a politician, it'd

778
00:37:42,333 --> 00:37:45,093
Speaker 15: be another reason why I wouldn't want to to have

779
00:37:45,173 --> 00:37:48,933
Speaker 15: that kind of scrutiny piled upon my personal affairs. I

780
00:37:48,973 --> 00:37:51,533
Speaker 15: think it's an intrusion, and it's just more to poppy

781
00:37:51,573 --> 00:37:57,253
Speaker 15: syndrome from New Zealand's New Zealand's left and the people

782
00:37:57,293 --> 00:38:01,493
Speaker 15: who are desperately envious of anybody who's managed to do

783
00:38:01,573 --> 00:38:02,453
Speaker 15: well for themselves.

784
00:38:02,813 --> 00:38:05,293
Speaker 2: I think if you called Peter, the six is how

785
00:38:05,373 --> 00:38:07,493
Speaker 2: much did you pay for your house? Matt, you don't

786
00:38:07,533 --> 00:38:09,813
Speaker 2: mind asking how much other people earn and what's their

787
00:38:09,813 --> 00:38:12,453
Speaker 2: property is worth? Tell us grow some nuts. Well, no,

788
00:38:12,573 --> 00:38:15,813
Speaker 2: I didn't ask for the what politicians they have to

789
00:38:15,893 --> 00:38:17,293
Speaker 2: state what it is. And then there was an article

790
00:38:17,293 --> 00:38:21,933
Speaker 2: on the paper today listing but I'm private citizens, so

791
00:38:21,973 --> 00:38:22,973
Speaker 2: I don't need to say anything.

792
00:38:23,053 --> 00:38:25,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, politicians are very different because we pay this salary.

793
00:38:25,853 --> 00:38:28,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't need to grow some nuts.

794
00:38:28,133 --> 00:38:31,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, or kind of nuts, peanuts.

795
00:38:31,733 --> 00:38:33,533
Speaker 2: Hayter, walnut. We had a lot of walnuts on the

796
00:38:33,573 --> 00:38:35,253
Speaker 2: farm growing up, and I was so disappointed that was

797
00:38:35,253 --> 00:38:35,893
Speaker 2: the nut we had.

798
00:38:35,973 --> 00:38:37,933
Speaker 3: What is wrong with you? Walnuts are the best of us.

799
00:38:38,093 --> 00:38:41,172
Speaker 2: Cashew nuts come on creat Omega three and walnuts Vega six.

800
00:38:41,293 --> 00:38:43,253
Speaker 2: I've gone off peace anyway, Thank you.

801
00:38:43,373 --> 00:38:46,693
Speaker 3: Great discussion coming up after two abuse and how you

802
00:38:46,733 --> 00:38:47,213
Speaker 3: deal with it?

803
00:38:49,333 --> 00:38:51,093
Speaker 4: Talking with you all afternoon.

804
00:38:51,413 --> 00:38:55,013
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons, used talks.

805
00:38:55,013 --> 00:38:58,893
Speaker 3: It'd be for a good afternoon to you. Six past two.

806
00:38:59,333 --> 00:39:01,533
Speaker 2: How I'm going to answer this text that came through Brendan.

807
00:39:01,933 --> 00:39:04,692
Speaker 2: I've been away, Brandon asks, this is the text I've

808
00:39:04,693 --> 00:39:06,893
Speaker 2: been away for ten days. Did you run your marathon?

809
00:39:07,413 --> 00:39:07,693
Speaker 5: Matt?

810
00:39:08,773 --> 00:39:11,413
Speaker 2: You did, but also you should see the disgusting toll

811
00:39:11,453 --> 00:39:15,013
Speaker 2: that running a marathon if you're maybe not really prepared

812
00:39:15,013 --> 00:39:17,333
Speaker 2: to run a marathon, like I wasn't dust to your foot.

813
00:39:18,373 --> 00:39:20,853
Speaker 2: One of my toenails just came off from the just

814
00:39:21,133 --> 00:39:24,053
Speaker 2: like all my toenails are now black. Yeah, and one

815
00:39:24,093 --> 00:39:26,013
Speaker 2: of them just came off, no pain at all, just

816
00:39:26,053 --> 00:39:28,533
Speaker 2: the entire toenail is off. Actually, if you want to

817
00:39:28,613 --> 00:39:31,493
Speaker 2: check it out, I posted a picture of my foot

818
00:39:31,533 --> 00:39:35,173
Speaker 2: to my instagram Matt heath in z. Yep. Just go

819
00:39:35,253 --> 00:39:37,933
Speaker 2: to my Instagram, click on the story and I put

820
00:39:37,973 --> 00:39:40,453
Speaker 2: my foot there and just asking if anyone wanted to

821
00:39:40,453 --> 00:39:42,293
Speaker 2: pay for it in an only fans way, because you

822
00:39:42,333 --> 00:39:46,573
Speaker 2: know there's whatever you got, there's someone that's into it, right, yeah,

823
00:39:46,613 --> 00:39:50,653
Speaker 2: so I forget disgusting orangutang foot worth a couple of

824
00:39:50,693 --> 00:39:52,813
Speaker 2: the nails missing, Maybe someone's into it. So I just

825
00:39:52,853 --> 00:39:54,453
Speaker 2: posted a picture of at madt heath in Zi to

826
00:39:54,453 --> 00:39:55,973
Speaker 2: see if you know, I could rustle up some money,

827
00:39:55,973 --> 00:39:57,613
Speaker 2: make a bit of a side hustle on people that

828
00:39:57,653 --> 00:40:04,333
Speaker 2: are into gross, distorted, deformed marathon runners foot it's it is,

829
00:40:04,373 --> 00:40:04,933
Speaker 2: mankey man.

830
00:40:05,213 --> 00:40:07,853
Speaker 3: If there's kids around or you're at work, just to

831
00:40:07,933 --> 00:40:11,493
Speaker 3: not say for work situation, just just be cautious when

832
00:40:11,533 --> 00:40:12,813
Speaker 3: you open up that photo.

833
00:40:12,653 --> 00:40:14,893
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hear it. There you go, tyler, there you go.

834
00:40:14,933 --> 00:40:16,732
Speaker 2: Look at that cheap as the state of there.

835
00:40:16,773 --> 00:40:19,813
Speaker 3: I mean you actually put oh man, what you put

836
00:40:19,813 --> 00:40:22,853
Speaker 3: your poor feet through? Man, that's gross and and you're

837
00:40:22,893 --> 00:40:25,013
Speaker 3: quite right the get between your big toe and your

838
00:40:25,013 --> 00:40:26,773
Speaker 3: second big toe, that's huge.

839
00:40:26,973 --> 00:40:30,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. It's a deformity. That's a deformity. When

840
00:40:30,453 --> 00:40:32,652
Speaker 2: I was a kid, if my mum never saw me

841
00:40:32,693 --> 00:40:35,652
Speaker 2: with my shoes off, she'd go, oh god, you've got

842
00:40:35,693 --> 00:40:39,692
Speaker 2: your father's feet. You'd be a good climb of those

843
00:40:39,973 --> 00:40:44,613
Speaker 2: at least thing to send a rangatan. Absolutely, but you

844
00:40:44,653 --> 00:40:46,573
Speaker 2: would be surprised. So I've put up that you'll be surprised.

845
00:40:46,573 --> 00:40:50,053
Speaker 2: I've put up this shot on my foot on Instagram. Yep,

846
00:40:50,253 --> 00:40:53,413
Speaker 2: and no one wants to pay for it. Well, just like,

847
00:40:54,013 --> 00:40:56,213
Speaker 2: would you pay for more shots of my foot? Yeah?

848
00:40:56,493 --> 00:40:59,453
Speaker 2: DM me? No one, No one yet, no one? All right,

849
00:40:59,613 --> 00:41:02,773
Speaker 2: there's six six eight hundred people have viewed the picture

850
00:41:02,933 --> 00:41:05,773
Speaker 2: so far. Not a single person wants to pay me

851
00:41:05,813 --> 00:41:06,933
Speaker 2: for more shots of my feet.

852
00:41:06,973 --> 00:41:11,413
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised, mate, Very good fans. Economy is a myth, right,

853
00:41:11,493 --> 00:41:14,253
Speaker 3: let's get into this one. This will be an interesting conversation.

854
00:41:14,293 --> 00:41:17,213
Speaker 3: It's about abuse and this was after a Auckland councilor,

855
00:41:17,533 --> 00:41:20,413
Speaker 3: Julie Faery. She has spoken out about the abuse she's

856
00:41:20,493 --> 00:41:23,413
Speaker 3: faced in her several years in council, so one of

857
00:41:23,453 --> 00:41:26,053
Speaker 3: the things she quoted in the story was being a

858
00:41:26,133 --> 00:41:29,213
Speaker 3: communist scum that was something memorable for her, but it

859
00:41:29,213 --> 00:41:30,413
Speaker 3: also seems like a lot.

860
00:41:30,453 --> 00:41:32,893
Speaker 2: How did she cope with being called communist scum? That

861
00:41:32,973 --> 00:41:36,573
Speaker 2: must have boy, she would just spend three days in

862
00:41:36,613 --> 00:41:39,253
Speaker 2: the Burns unit. I mean that's pretty low level. Called

863
00:41:39,293 --> 00:41:42,533
Speaker 2: communist scum every thirty seconds. Yeah, yeah, and I'm not

864
00:41:42,613 --> 00:41:46,573
Speaker 2: being called a fascist. And it seems most elected members

865
00:41:46,573 --> 00:41:49,653
Speaker 2: at Auckland Council, and this is the same around councils

866
00:41:50,173 --> 00:41:54,253
Speaker 2: across New Zealand a facing similar so survey found eighty

867
00:41:54,253 --> 00:41:56,893
Speaker 2: one percent of being rastal bullied by members of the

868
00:41:56,933 --> 00:41:59,533
Speaker 2: public and council of Fairy went on to say she's

869
00:41:59,533 --> 00:42:03,173
Speaker 2: got several friends who would make great local government elected members,

870
00:42:03,173 --> 00:42:05,813
Speaker 2: but they've told her that they will not stand because

871
00:42:05,853 --> 00:42:09,733
Speaker 2: of fear of abuse. So I was at the refuse

872
00:42:09,893 --> 00:42:13,413
Speaker 2: transfer center and the concourse refused transfer center, and when

873
00:42:13,453 --> 00:42:17,093
Speaker 2: I was going through the you know the way thing,

874
00:42:17,093 --> 00:42:18,733
Speaker 2: there was this big sign. It had a picture of

875
00:42:18,733 --> 00:42:20,973
Speaker 2: a woman and it said all her achievements and then

876
00:42:21,053 --> 00:42:25,213
Speaker 2: at the end it said abused. It's an achievement. No, no,

877
00:42:25,813 --> 00:42:27,413
Speaker 2: it was trying to it was making her a person,

878
00:42:27,453 --> 00:42:29,533
Speaker 2: and that the last thing it said that she had

879
00:42:29,533 --> 00:42:32,853
Speaker 2: received abuse. Right, abuse is unacceptable and I was just thinking,

880
00:42:34,293 --> 00:42:36,413
Speaker 2: is that really does that really matter?

881
00:42:37,093 --> 00:42:37,173
Speaker 5: Like?

882
00:42:37,293 --> 00:42:42,133
Speaker 2: Am I this might be a philo philosophical discussion this hour,

883
00:42:42,973 --> 00:42:46,133
Speaker 2: But do we want the world should should people be

884
00:42:46,173 --> 00:42:49,253
Speaker 2: scared of abuse? I mean threats are one thing. Obviously,

885
00:42:50,133 --> 00:42:54,853
Speaker 2: the threats to your personal safety, family, anything like that.

886
00:42:54,853 --> 00:42:57,733
Speaker 2: That's a police issue, right, But isn't it better to

887
00:42:57,813 --> 00:43:01,333
Speaker 2: learn to deal with the abuse rather than expect to

888
00:43:01,373 --> 00:43:04,172
Speaker 2: live in a world where people never say anything mean

889
00:43:04,253 --> 00:43:06,173
Speaker 2: to you? Like you could spend all the money you

890
00:43:06,213 --> 00:43:10,893
Speaker 2: want counsel on these these campaigns to stop people abusing you,

891
00:43:12,093 --> 00:43:14,413
Speaker 2: but it will never make any difference because there's been

892
00:43:14,453 --> 00:43:18,573
Speaker 2: an abuse forever. Yeah, I mean people have been getting

893
00:43:18,613 --> 00:43:25,333
Speaker 2: offended forever. I mean look at the Bible. Alisha, you

894
00:43:25,373 --> 00:43:28,533
Speaker 2: know Alisha when he was he was accosted by juveniles

895
00:43:28,533 --> 00:43:30,893
Speaker 2: on his way up to Bethel, and they mocked his

896
00:43:30,973 --> 00:43:33,213
Speaker 2: lack of hair, yelling, go up, bald head, go up,

897
00:43:33,293 --> 00:43:37,693
Speaker 2: bald head. Poor Alicia. Well these kids got theirs because

898
00:43:37,733 --> 00:43:40,853
Speaker 2: the Alicia cursed the kids and the next day two

899
00:43:40,893 --> 00:43:43,093
Speaker 2: female beers came out of the forest and mauled forty

900
00:43:43,093 --> 00:43:46,333
Speaker 2: two of those juveniles. Yeah, it's actually more complicated that story.

901
00:43:46,373 --> 00:43:48,973
Speaker 2: What go up and bald head meant anyway, as often

902
00:43:49,013 --> 00:43:51,013
Speaker 2: things in the Bible are more complicated. But anyway, people

903
00:43:51,053 --> 00:43:54,373
Speaker 2: have been abused forever, and they will be abused forever.

904
00:43:54,933 --> 00:43:58,053
Speaker 2: That's that's the way of the universe. So and you know,

905
00:43:58,173 --> 00:44:00,533
Speaker 2: any percentage and the percentage of the population that are

906
00:44:00,573 --> 00:44:03,212
Speaker 2: just abusing, maybe let's just say I'm making up this number.

907
00:44:03,253 --> 00:44:06,413
Speaker 2: Five percent do a lot of abusing, unhinged, unhanged. Yeah,

908
00:44:06,773 --> 00:44:09,493
Speaker 2: so you're not going to go into politics because you

909
00:44:09,533 --> 00:44:11,453
Speaker 2: don't want to hear what the five percent have to say.

910
00:44:12,733 --> 00:44:15,013
Speaker 2: It seems like you should just learn to deal with that.

911
00:44:15,173 --> 00:44:18,253
Speaker 2: Do you you know, do you run away from politics

912
00:44:18,293 --> 00:44:21,533
Speaker 2: or do you harden yourself to abuse? Because there's always

913
00:44:21,533 --> 00:44:24,133
Speaker 2: been abuse, don't we want people in charge to be

914
00:44:24,173 --> 00:44:26,853
Speaker 2: the toughest among us who believe in doing the right

915
00:44:26,933 --> 00:44:30,652
Speaker 2: thing despite the slings and arrows, I mean, communists, scum.

916
00:44:31,013 --> 00:44:33,493
Speaker 2: You know, it's pretty low level that there have been

917
00:44:34,333 --> 00:44:36,573
Speaker 2: politicians that have had to risk their life for what

918
00:44:36,653 --> 00:44:38,613
Speaker 2: they believe it. But if you just getting a little

919
00:44:38,653 --> 00:44:42,453
Speaker 2: bit of abuse online, then I mean, I think we

920
00:44:42,533 --> 00:44:46,573
Speaker 2: need to teach children and teach members of society that

921
00:44:47,173 --> 00:44:50,173
Speaker 2: you know, there are ways to deal with abuse and

922
00:44:50,293 --> 00:44:51,773
Speaker 2: it is to be above it.

923
00:44:51,933 --> 00:44:54,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is different to what you're talking about here.

924
00:44:54,773 --> 00:44:57,253
Speaker 3: But does that to part of it come into it

925
00:44:57,253 --> 00:45:01,692
Speaker 3: that you remove yourself from where the abuse is happen

926
00:45:01,853 --> 00:45:04,773
Speaker 3: happening aka social media or does that defeat the purpose

927
00:45:04,813 --> 00:45:06,693
Speaker 3: because what you're saying is you're going to face abuse

928
00:45:06,693 --> 00:45:09,172
Speaker 3: in your life and you're going to face in and

929
00:45:09,213 --> 00:45:12,413
Speaker 3: you've got to tackle that head on. If it's not true,

930
00:45:12,813 --> 00:45:15,533
Speaker 3: then it doesn't really matter. If it is true then

931
00:45:15,613 --> 00:45:16,853
Speaker 3: and you wrote about this in your book.

932
00:45:17,053 --> 00:45:20,853
Speaker 2: Oh you're talking about this. Yeah, the stoic principle on

933
00:45:21,173 --> 00:45:23,413
Speaker 2: you know. I'll go into those things, but yeah, I

934
00:45:23,453 --> 00:45:26,493
Speaker 2: mean the basic thing. And as it's said by is

935
00:45:26,493 --> 00:45:31,773
Speaker 2: a guy called Enzulganger who's a great philosopher, a Dutch philosopher. Anyway,

936
00:45:31,813 --> 00:45:34,573
Speaker 2: he put it this way. Someone says something to you,

937
00:45:35,773 --> 00:45:39,813
Speaker 2: insert insult. Is it true? If yes, then it's not

938
00:45:39,853 --> 00:45:43,692
Speaker 2: an insult. Why be offended by it? If no, then

939
00:45:43,733 --> 00:45:45,893
Speaker 2: it's nonsense. So you just ask if it's true or not.

940
00:45:45,933 --> 00:45:49,453
Speaker 2: If it's true what they say. Someone calls you communist scum,

941
00:45:49,453 --> 00:45:52,933
Speaker 2: you go, am I communist scum? And if it's true,

942
00:45:53,053 --> 00:45:55,013
Speaker 2: then that's not an insult that's true and say thank

943
00:45:55,013 --> 00:45:56,813
Speaker 2: you very much, thank you very much for the information

944
00:45:57,173 --> 00:46:00,613
Speaker 2: on both communists and scum. But if it's not true,

945
00:46:00,813 --> 00:46:02,652
Speaker 2: then you go, well, this is nonsense. So how can

946
00:46:02,693 --> 00:46:05,613
Speaker 2: I possibly be offended by something that's not anything that's

947
00:46:05,613 --> 00:46:07,773
Speaker 2: not true? Right? So there's a very simple way to

948
00:46:07,773 --> 00:46:08,813
Speaker 2: put things through true, right.

949
00:46:09,493 --> 00:46:11,253
Speaker 3: I mean it's easy when you get called a fascist

950
00:46:11,253 --> 00:46:13,013
Speaker 3: and a communist at the same time. I mean, you

951
00:46:13,053 --> 00:46:14,933
Speaker 3: realize what both of those things are crazy and you're

952
00:46:14,933 --> 00:46:17,413
Speaker 3: an unhitched five percenter. But love to you your thoughts

953
00:46:17,413 --> 00:46:19,252
Speaker 3: on this. I we one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

954
00:46:19,293 --> 00:46:22,253
Speaker 3: When it comes to people in elected positions, is there

955
00:46:22,293 --> 00:46:25,413
Speaker 3: an element of thick skin that you need? And it's

956
00:46:25,453 --> 00:46:28,213
Speaker 3: confidence in yourself? Right, That's where it comes from. That

957
00:46:28,373 --> 00:46:31,413
Speaker 3: self confidence that I don't really care what's some nump

958
00:46:31,453 --> 00:46:34,413
Speaker 3: they I don't know says, because I know you know,

959
00:46:34,413 --> 00:46:36,093
Speaker 3: I'd never go to that person for advice.

960
00:46:36,253 --> 00:46:41,773
Speaker 2: You embrace all the opinions of the people in your constituents.

961
00:46:41,973 --> 00:46:44,053
Speaker 2: You embrace all their opinions, and then you go through

962
00:46:44,053 --> 00:46:46,693
Speaker 2: and you analyze them. If there's someone yelling abuse at you,

963
00:46:47,813 --> 00:46:50,373
Speaker 2: if it's not true, then you just put that aside.

964
00:46:50,493 --> 00:46:52,453
Speaker 2: But the idea that you would go into politics and

965
00:46:52,493 --> 00:46:56,573
Speaker 2: be shielded from what people say, that's a crazy idea.

966
00:46:56,653 --> 00:46:58,613
Speaker 2: And I just wonder if we're teaching people the wrong thing.

967
00:46:58,653 --> 00:47:01,053
Speaker 2: There's always that words of violent stuff that's been taught

968
00:47:01,093 --> 00:47:04,973
Speaker 2: to people, and I think we need to get back

969
00:47:05,013 --> 00:47:06,772
Speaker 2: to the sticks and stones will break my bones, words

970
00:47:06,813 --> 00:47:09,533
Speaker 2: will never hurt me thin, right, interesting idea?

971
00:47:09,653 --> 00:47:12,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

972
00:47:12,573 --> 00:47:14,333
Speaker 3: to call? Really, can you get your thoughts on this?

973
00:47:14,533 --> 00:47:16,773
Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number as well.

974
00:47:17,053 --> 00:47:19,053
Speaker 3: It is a quarter past two. You're listening to Matt

975
00:47:19,053 --> 00:47:19,933
Speaker 3: and Tyler Good afternoons.

976
00:47:20,013 --> 00:47:24,613
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor

977
00:47:24,653 --> 00:47:26,053
Speaker 1: Adams afternoons.

978
00:47:26,093 --> 00:47:29,093
Speaker 4: Call Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk said be.

979
00:47:30,893 --> 00:47:34,252
Speaker 3: Seventeen past two. So we're talking about facing abuse. This

980
00:47:34,293 --> 00:47:38,413
Speaker 3: is from an Auckland elected councilor who said that she's

981
00:47:38,533 --> 00:47:42,573
Speaker 3: faced abuse her whole time in council several years, and

982
00:47:42,613 --> 00:47:44,253
Speaker 3: one of the ones that was memorable to her was

983
00:47:44,333 --> 00:47:45,333
Speaker 3: communist scum.

984
00:47:45,693 --> 00:47:47,533
Speaker 2: And she's saying that a bunch of people won't that

985
00:47:47,613 --> 00:47:49,453
Speaker 2: she knows won't go into politics because they're worried about

986
00:47:49,453 --> 00:47:51,613
Speaker 2: the abuse. Yeah, I think we need to change our

987
00:47:52,053 --> 00:47:55,533
Speaker 2: opinion and teach people to be able to deal with abuse,

988
00:47:55,653 --> 00:47:58,533
Speaker 2: rather than expecting the universe to change such that there's

989
00:47:58,533 --> 00:48:00,453
Speaker 2: no abuse, which has never been the case in the

990
00:48:00,493 --> 00:48:05,093
Speaker 2: history of human kind. Jeremy, welcome to the show.

991
00:48:06,493 --> 00:48:07,773
Speaker 6: How are you very good?

992
00:48:07,853 --> 00:48:10,293
Speaker 2: Thanks for call.

993
00:48:10,573 --> 00:48:14,133
Speaker 7: I quite enjoy getting a little bit of abuse. I've

994
00:48:14,173 --> 00:48:16,893
Speaker 7: been one of my first jobs working at a call seems,

995
00:48:17,093 --> 00:48:19,653
Speaker 7: and I was only one of the ones that quite

996
00:48:19,733 --> 00:48:23,013
Speaker 7: enjoyed taking those calls, or taking those calls off other people,

997
00:48:23,053 --> 00:48:28,533
Speaker 7: because there's something quite satisfying about your response and how

998
00:48:28,573 --> 00:48:33,133
Speaker 7: you respond to it in a way that's professional and

999
00:48:33,173 --> 00:48:35,533
Speaker 7: you're sort of upholding your integrity, but at the same

1000
00:48:35,573 --> 00:48:37,493
Speaker 7: time you're kind of not putting people in their place,

1001
00:48:37,573 --> 00:48:41,453
Speaker 7: but you're just you're it's the truth, and it's quite satisfying.

1002
00:48:41,493 --> 00:48:44,253
Speaker 7: It's the same on social media. I've recently be aborted

1003
00:48:46,133 --> 00:48:49,453
Speaker 7: what on doing on local board and instantly I got

1004
00:48:49,493 --> 00:48:55,813
Speaker 7: immediately abuse online from the usual no named anonymous member

1005
00:48:55,893 --> 00:48:59,373
Speaker 7: on social media. But like I say, it's quite satisfying

1006
00:48:59,373 --> 00:49:02,333
Speaker 7: when you can respond in a sort of professional But

1007
00:49:02,893 --> 00:49:04,733
Speaker 7: I don't know not Ssnami's not the right word, but

1008
00:49:04,853 --> 00:49:08,212
Speaker 7: sort of a way that's quite mission and you kind

1009
00:49:08,213 --> 00:49:09,733
Speaker 7: of I kind of get a kick out of it

1010
00:49:09,773 --> 00:49:12,213
Speaker 7: because you know that those people that are abusing you online,

1011
00:49:12,613 --> 00:49:16,973
Speaker 7: they're abusing you anonymously. They've got no grounds for any

1012
00:49:16,973 --> 00:49:19,093
Speaker 7: of the basis of what you're saying. It's just that

1013
00:49:19,573 --> 00:49:21,133
Speaker 7: you're always just going to get those people. But I

1014
00:49:21,173 --> 00:49:23,733
Speaker 7: can find it oddly satisfying responding to those people.

1015
00:49:24,453 --> 00:49:26,373
Speaker 2: I think it was Marcus Raleis. It was actually Marcus

1016
00:49:26,413 --> 00:49:29,013
Speaker 2: Rallis and Meditations. He wrote the best revenge is to

1017
00:49:29,053 --> 00:49:31,693
Speaker 2: not be like them. So if there's someone that's abusing

1018
00:49:31,733 --> 00:49:35,573
Speaker 2: you and you can be above them and smarter than

1019
00:49:35,613 --> 00:49:40,213
Speaker 2: them and more tolerant and everything that they're not, you

1020
00:49:40,293 --> 00:49:44,213
Speaker 2: actually a makes you feel better about yourself. But it

1021
00:49:44,253 --> 00:49:49,373
Speaker 2: also wins the argument because and it's very infuriating. It's

1022
00:49:49,453 --> 00:49:52,573
Speaker 2: hugely infuriating to be that the you know, they talk

1023
00:49:52,613 --> 00:49:55,293
Speaker 2: about the rock that isn't moved by the river. You're

1024
00:49:55,333 --> 00:49:58,413
Speaker 2: just sitting there being yourself, being professional, doing the right thing.

1025
00:49:58,733 --> 00:49:59,853
Speaker 2: There's no bed to come back.

1026
00:49:59,933 --> 00:50:04,453
Speaker 16: Jeremy one hundred percent agree. And like I say, there's

1027
00:50:04,493 --> 00:50:07,093
Speaker 16: something part of me that like's knowing what's happening on

1028
00:50:07,093 --> 00:50:10,172
Speaker 16: the other side, and then getting wound up by your

1029
00:50:10,253 --> 00:50:13,813
Speaker 16: professional response. I don't know, oddly satisfying, but you're always

1030
00:50:13,813 --> 00:50:16,013
Speaker 16: going to get it. There's always going to be those

1031
00:50:16,093 --> 00:50:19,333
Speaker 16: members on social media who post anonymously who are just

1032
00:50:19,373 --> 00:50:21,813
Speaker 16: going to pick it absolutely everything you say, and you've

1033
00:50:21,853 --> 00:50:23,652
Speaker 16: just got to take it. If you're entering into any

1034
00:50:23,733 --> 00:50:26,293
Speaker 16: kind of politics as water off a duchback, you've got

1035
00:50:26,333 --> 00:50:28,693
Speaker 16: to be integral and too in terms of yourself and

1036
00:50:28,733 --> 00:50:29,373
Speaker 16: what you believe.

1037
00:50:30,213 --> 00:50:32,212
Speaker 7: And I don't think there should stop anyone from doing

1038
00:50:32,253 --> 00:50:33,933
Speaker 7: anything like that, because those are the kind of people

1039
00:50:33,973 --> 00:50:35,933
Speaker 7: we need, and those kind of positions.

1040
00:50:35,973 --> 00:50:36,333
Speaker 5: We need.

1041
00:50:36,373 --> 00:50:39,573
Speaker 7: People that can wear a little bit of abuse. But

1042
00:50:40,173 --> 00:50:41,773
Speaker 7: at the end of the day, you're not there for

1043
00:50:41,853 --> 00:50:43,893
Speaker 7: the abuse. You're there to make a difference within your

1044
00:50:43,933 --> 00:50:46,973
Speaker 7: community or whatever it is you're doing. And that's just

1045
00:50:47,013 --> 00:50:47,773
Speaker 7: a little part of it.

1046
00:50:47,933 --> 00:50:49,573
Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean that the people that are abusing

1047
00:50:49,573 --> 00:50:51,893
Speaker 2: them aren't bad people. I mean, it's not sticking up

1048
00:50:51,893 --> 00:50:53,893
Speaker 2: for the people that are abusing them. They are They

1049
00:50:53,933 --> 00:50:57,013
Speaker 2: are the losers in the situation. They are the people

1050
00:50:57,013 --> 00:50:58,733
Speaker 2: that are screaming into the void. They are the people

1051
00:50:59,253 --> 00:51:03,853
Speaker 2: that are behaving poorly. But it's almost if you allow

1052
00:51:03,893 --> 00:51:06,333
Speaker 2: them to get to you, you're giving them more than

1053
00:51:06,373 --> 00:51:09,133
Speaker 2: they deserve. They want to take a piece off you,

1054
00:51:09,573 --> 00:51:12,053
Speaker 2: and you can you can. You know, as they say,

1055
00:51:12,133 --> 00:51:15,973
Speaker 2: you take offense, So you can choose not to take offense.

1056
00:51:16,053 --> 00:51:18,613
Speaker 2: You know you can. You can. Just if you have

1057
00:51:18,733 --> 00:51:21,853
Speaker 2: not taken offense, then you haven't been offended and you

1058
00:51:21,893 --> 00:51:24,253
Speaker 2: haven't given them the power over you. And that's what

1059
00:51:24,333 --> 00:51:26,293
Speaker 2: I often think. It's so you can walk around. There's

1060
00:51:26,333 --> 00:51:28,573
Speaker 2: there's there's this idea that you can walk around and

1061
00:51:28,613 --> 00:51:31,293
Speaker 2: you'd be really annoyed if you got kidnapped, right, you'd

1062
00:51:31,333 --> 00:51:32,893
Speaker 2: be like they'd be annoying if you got thrown in

1063
00:51:32,893 --> 00:51:35,293
Speaker 2: the back of a van and got kidnapped. Yep, that

1064
00:51:35,333 --> 00:51:38,133
Speaker 2: would suck. But yet we just walk around and hand

1065
00:51:38,173 --> 00:51:40,613
Speaker 2: over our mind to anyone that says something slightly nasty

1066
00:51:40,653 --> 00:51:42,253
Speaker 2: to us. Yeah, and then we spend the rest of

1067
00:51:42,293 --> 00:51:45,093
Speaker 2: the day, maybe sometimes even weeks, just angry about some

1068
00:51:45,213 --> 00:51:47,093
Speaker 2: insult that someone gave us, and we give them the

1069
00:51:47,093 --> 00:51:49,812
Speaker 2: time of day and we get stressed and we've handed

1070
00:51:49,853 --> 00:51:51,692
Speaker 2: over our mind. We've let someone kidnap our mind.

1071
00:51:53,413 --> 00:51:53,693
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1072
00:51:53,733 --> 00:51:56,293
Speaker 7: And I think the more you buy into that, and

1073
00:51:56,293 --> 00:51:59,453
Speaker 7: the more that you respond in a negative way. Like

1074
00:51:59,533 --> 00:52:01,453
Speaker 7: you say, it spurs the mind and it's not going

1075
00:52:01,493 --> 00:52:03,973
Speaker 7: to stop that behavior. And like I say, some of them,

1076
00:52:04,013 --> 00:52:04,333
Speaker 7: you just.

1077
00:52:04,373 --> 00:52:06,213
Speaker 5: Never stop that behavior. That is what it is.

1078
00:52:06,253 --> 00:52:08,333
Speaker 7: I'll always be that way. But I think if more

1079
00:52:08,373 --> 00:52:10,493
Speaker 7: people stand up for themselves and stand up for what

1080
00:52:10,573 --> 00:52:13,252
Speaker 7: they believe in and just speaks the truth, it's never

1081
00:52:13,293 --> 00:52:15,493
Speaker 7: going to be an issue. And maybe you'll stop some

1082
00:52:15,533 --> 00:52:17,813
Speaker 7: of that kind of behavior. Maybe you won't with a lot,

1083
00:52:17,893 --> 00:52:18,813
Speaker 7: but you might with some.

1084
00:52:19,213 --> 00:52:21,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you might with some, but then there'll be

1085
00:52:21,013 --> 00:52:23,212
Speaker 2: always other ones. I mean, that's the thing. That's that's

1086
00:52:23,253 --> 00:52:26,333
Speaker 2: the world we live in. You better to sort yourself

1087
00:52:26,333 --> 00:52:30,013
Speaker 2: out than expect the world to sort itself out for you. Yeah, hey,

1088
00:52:30,013 --> 00:52:31,813
Speaker 2: thank you so much for you call, Jeremy. I appreciate it.

1089
00:52:31,853 --> 00:52:34,213
Speaker 3: I mean I've always loved I think maybe it's slightly different,

1090
00:52:34,253 --> 00:52:36,573
Speaker 3: but the kill them with kindness attitude, which is, you know,

1091
00:52:36,693 --> 00:52:39,773
Speaker 3: staying above it. I've always liked that, but sometimes it

1092
00:52:39,853 --> 00:52:42,213
Speaker 3: is hard to do, depending on who's who's thrown out

1093
00:52:42,253 --> 00:52:44,853
Speaker 3: the insults. Sometimes if it's out in public or someone

1094
00:52:44,893 --> 00:52:47,133
Speaker 3: cuts me off, I let my.

1095
00:52:47,133 --> 00:52:47,893
Speaker 2: Anger take over.

1096
00:52:48,093 --> 00:52:50,613
Speaker 3: But I think if I can kill kill them with

1097
00:52:50,693 --> 00:52:53,652
Speaker 3: kindness and stay above them. There is like Jeremy said,

1098
00:52:53,653 --> 00:52:54,333
Speaker 3: it's a nice feeling.

1099
00:52:55,213 --> 00:52:58,973
Speaker 2: Best response to abuse was Chloe Swarbrick when her billboard

1100
00:52:58,973 --> 00:53:02,093
Speaker 2: was to face with woke Lesbo. Her response was just

1101
00:53:02,853 --> 00:53:06,053
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, now that's a great response. It took

1102
00:53:06,053 --> 00:53:08,333
Speaker 2: to burn away. Yeah, yeah, well done. Gold.

1103
00:53:09,293 --> 00:53:12,013
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

1104
00:53:12,373 --> 00:53:15,253
Speaker 3: Do we need politicians with some thicker skin in dealing

1105
00:53:15,293 --> 00:53:16,732
Speaker 3: with some of the abuse that they have.

1106
00:53:17,053 --> 00:53:20,013
Speaker 2: And just generally across the board, do we need to reset?

1107
00:53:20,133 --> 00:53:23,373
Speaker 2: I feel like we have moved into a time in

1108
00:53:23,453 --> 00:53:27,172
Speaker 2: the general thinking across New Zealand society where if you

1109
00:53:27,173 --> 00:53:30,973
Speaker 2: are abused, you get upset about it and it wounds

1110
00:53:31,013 --> 00:53:34,533
Speaker 2: you deeply. And that's kind of what's taught that we

1111
00:53:34,573 --> 00:53:36,493
Speaker 2: need to try and stop the abuse. Or do we

1112
00:53:36,493 --> 00:53:38,133
Speaker 2: need to move back to the old school way of

1113
00:53:38,173 --> 00:53:41,493
Speaker 2: doing it where you learn to harden up and you

1114
00:53:41,653 --> 00:53:44,373
Speaker 2: learn to deal with abuse because the abuse is always

1115
00:53:44,373 --> 00:53:44,933
Speaker 2: going to be there.

1116
00:53:45,053 --> 00:53:47,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on through. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1117
00:53:47,533 --> 00:53:49,453
Speaker 3: is that number to call. Ninety two nine two is

1118
00:53:49,453 --> 00:53:54,013
Speaker 3: the text. It's twenty four past two.

1119
00:53:55,133 --> 00:53:58,812
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1120
00:53:58,893 --> 00:54:00,733
Speaker 1: ten eighty on used talk ZB.

1121
00:54:00,813 --> 00:54:01,973
Speaker 2: Twenty six past two.

1122
00:54:02,053 --> 00:54:04,053
Speaker 3: Do we need to get a little bit harder when

1123
00:54:04,093 --> 00:54:06,413
Speaker 3: it comes to insults and abuse we face?

1124
00:54:06,933 --> 00:54:10,093
Speaker 2: It's interesting I was saying that that's, you know, the

1125
00:54:10,773 --> 00:54:15,493
Speaker 2: concept that we hate to get kidnapped, but we will

1126
00:54:15,573 --> 00:54:18,493
Speaker 2: let people take over our mind at will. It's a

1127
00:54:18,533 --> 00:54:20,613
Speaker 2: nice salogy. We would fight a lot before we're thrown

1128
00:54:20,613 --> 00:54:22,292
Speaker 2: in the back of a van, but we walk past someone,

1129
00:54:22,333 --> 00:54:24,093
Speaker 2: they insult us, and we let them take over our

1130
00:54:24,133 --> 00:54:26,613
Speaker 2: mind for a period of time. And it's sort of

1131
00:54:26,653 --> 00:54:30,133
Speaker 2: just the idea that you need, that we need. We should,

1132
00:54:30,453 --> 00:54:34,772
Speaker 2: I believe, teach people how to deal with insults, rather

1133
00:54:34,813 --> 00:54:37,573
Speaker 2: than telling people that you are right to be hurt

1134
00:54:37,613 --> 00:54:41,693
Speaker 2: by an insult, because because then the insults actually succeed.

1135
00:54:41,733 --> 00:54:44,773
Speaker 2: We need to we need to shield people, teach people

1136
00:54:45,293 --> 00:54:48,373
Speaker 2: how to protect themselves from insults, rather than trying to

1137
00:54:48,413 --> 00:54:50,053
Speaker 2: live in this imaginary world where no one will live

1138
00:54:50,053 --> 00:54:51,973
Speaker 2: an insult you, and that you shouldn't go into politics

1139
00:54:52,013 --> 00:54:55,253
Speaker 2: because you might get insulted. Maybe you should learn how

1140
00:54:55,253 --> 00:54:57,133
Speaker 2: to deal with insults. But this Texas says, I have

1141
00:54:57,173 --> 00:55:00,253
Speaker 2: been kidnapped twice overseas on both times it was very inconvenient,

1142
00:55:00,533 --> 00:55:03,293
Speaker 2: but had to let go after escaping girl stealing.

1143
00:55:04,053 --> 00:55:05,493
Speaker 3: We'll goot on your Joel for getting over there.

1144
00:55:05,493 --> 00:55:08,293
Speaker 2: But that kind of makes my points actually being kidnapped,

1145
00:55:09,013 --> 00:55:11,373
Speaker 2: because people the way people talk about being insulted now,

1146
00:55:11,413 --> 00:55:13,853
Speaker 2: it's like it's the end of the world and that

1147
00:55:13,933 --> 00:55:19,693
Speaker 2: they've actually been injured. Yeah, but that's but when you

1148
00:55:19,733 --> 00:55:21,733
Speaker 2: compare it to actually been kidnapped, it's nothing.

1149
00:55:21,893 --> 00:55:24,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, to steal on it for as you say, sometimes

1150
00:55:24,413 --> 00:55:26,973
Speaker 3: years Elaine, how are you.

1151
00:55:28,693 --> 00:55:29,573
Speaker 12: Good afternoon?

1152
00:55:29,653 --> 00:55:32,773
Speaker 17: No my text, but I wasn't expecting.

1153
00:55:32,373 --> 00:55:35,853
Speaker 3: A Well, well, god on you for giving up as

1154
00:55:35,853 --> 00:55:37,812
Speaker 3: a buzz because we've seen it and you have spent

1155
00:55:37,933 --> 00:55:41,253
Speaker 3: six years as a counselor, and you faced quite a

1156
00:55:41,253 --> 00:55:43,133
Speaker 3: bit of abuse during your time as a counselor.

1157
00:55:43,493 --> 00:55:48,813
Speaker 17: Well, not quite a bit of abuse in one short

1158
00:55:48,893 --> 00:55:53,773
Speaker 17: sentence over that period of time. When you're in a

1159
00:55:54,093 --> 00:55:59,933
Speaker 17: position of soorty and you realize, you know, your salary,

1160
00:56:00,053 --> 00:56:04,413
Speaker 17: as small as it was then, is paid for by

1161
00:56:04,453 --> 00:56:07,773
Speaker 17: their rates, they tend to think that they own you

1162
00:56:08,413 --> 00:56:14,293
Speaker 17: and would just put anything down on the public public

1163
00:56:14,333 --> 00:56:17,533
Speaker 17: Facebook pages or if there was an issue or something

1164
00:56:17,653 --> 00:56:18,013
Speaker 17: like that.

1165
00:56:18,293 --> 00:56:20,573
Speaker 12: But you never ever reacted.

1166
00:56:20,893 --> 00:56:24,292
Speaker 17: And you don't give them any ammunition to fire back

1167
00:56:24,333 --> 00:56:29,133
Speaker 17: at you. So I got stood up one day and

1168
00:56:29,173 --> 00:56:31,573
Speaker 17: I said, I don't get paid enough to be spoken

1169
00:56:31,613 --> 00:56:32,973
Speaker 17: to like that, walked away.

1170
00:56:34,773 --> 00:56:36,853
Speaker 2: Did you did you? Did any of it get through

1171
00:56:36,933 --> 00:56:41,253
Speaker 2: your defenses? Did any of it? You know? You know,

1172
00:56:41,733 --> 00:56:43,533
Speaker 2: question yourself emotionally?

1173
00:56:44,013 --> 00:56:48,973
Speaker 17: Oh, Jacobs, No, I'm I'm in my seventies, and I

1174
00:56:49,053 --> 00:56:52,253
Speaker 17: mean and I was still farming when I was asked

1175
00:56:52,253 --> 00:56:55,853
Speaker 17: to stand to represent the rural sector. And I mean,

1176
00:56:55,933 --> 00:56:59,453
Speaker 17: I like helping people. But those days in farming, or

1177
00:56:59,493 --> 00:57:02,652
Speaker 17: even now, you you grew up and you you were

1178
00:57:02,733 --> 00:57:05,333
Speaker 17: hard minded. I think they were all too soft minded

1179
00:57:05,413 --> 00:57:08,133
Speaker 17: these days to be to let that sort of stuff

1180
00:57:09,453 --> 00:57:12,493
Speaker 17: most of the abuse would they'd never have enough guts

1181
00:57:12,533 --> 00:57:13,693
Speaker 17: to say it to your face.

1182
00:57:15,133 --> 00:57:19,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, And do you think that maybe that the way

1183
00:57:19,333 --> 00:57:21,853
Speaker 2: we're being taught now, and young people are being taught,

1184
00:57:21,893 --> 00:57:25,693
Speaker 2: and their discourse in public, saying that abuse is so

1185
00:57:25,813 --> 00:57:32,253
Speaker 2: bad kind of gives power to the abuser because you're

1186
00:57:32,293 --> 00:57:35,693
Speaker 2: saying that that it does injure people. Where was I

1187
00:57:35,773 --> 00:57:39,973
Speaker 2: say that the message to be the abuse is a loser.

1188
00:57:40,013 --> 00:57:41,053
Speaker 2: I don't care. Let's move on.

1189
00:57:42,613 --> 00:57:45,613
Speaker 17: You know there was there was something in our in

1190
00:57:45,693 --> 00:57:49,613
Speaker 17: our in our older people, and when we were younger,

1191
00:57:49,653 --> 00:57:50,373
Speaker 17: you know, sticks and.

1192
00:57:50,413 --> 00:57:51,893
Speaker 12: Stones would break your bones.

1193
00:57:53,053 --> 00:57:56,373
Speaker 17: That's saying was to teach you to harden up, so

1194
00:57:56,453 --> 00:58:01,093
Speaker 17: you don't react to the person who's you know, throwing

1195
00:58:01,133 --> 00:58:06,693
Speaker 17: a stick in the bone, you know, And it's the

1196
00:58:06,893 --> 00:58:08,093
Speaker 17: I'm saying less, there's more.

1197
00:58:08,413 --> 00:58:11,133
Speaker 12: You don't react, that's your best response.

1198
00:58:11,293 --> 00:58:11,693
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1199
00:58:11,773 --> 00:58:13,813
Speaker 3: Now, I don't know if you ever faced this, Alane,

1200
00:58:13,853 --> 00:58:17,053
Speaker 3: but a lot of people do imposter syndrome, and you know,

1201
00:58:17,093 --> 00:58:18,813
Speaker 3: it's kind of the hidden thing that some people are

1202
00:58:18,813 --> 00:58:20,813
Speaker 3: starting to talk about now. But that's hard, right if

1203
00:58:20,853 --> 00:58:23,093
Speaker 3: you you're a first time counselor and you face that

1204
00:58:23,133 --> 00:58:25,293
Speaker 3: imposter syndrome that a lot of a lot of us face,

1205
00:58:25,573 --> 00:58:28,933
Speaker 3: and then you get that abuse and to your point, Matt,

1206
00:58:29,133 --> 00:58:31,213
Speaker 3: if it's not true, don't buy into it. If it

1207
00:58:31,293 --> 00:58:33,853
Speaker 3: is true, thank them. But a lot of people facing

1208
00:58:33,893 --> 00:58:36,533
Speaker 3: imposter syndrome wouldn't know whether it's true, and they get

1209
00:58:36,613 --> 00:58:39,453
Speaker 3: enough of it and start to dealt themselves. So that

1210
00:58:39,613 --> 00:58:42,493
Speaker 3: can be a difficult thing in public life. I imagine

1211
00:58:42,493 --> 00:58:43,533
Speaker 3: a lane to try and fight that.

1212
00:58:45,213 --> 00:58:52,293
Speaker 17: Ah, well, what's that saying again? If you can't stand

1213
00:58:52,333 --> 00:58:53,613
Speaker 17: the heat, get out of the kitchen.

1214
00:58:53,813 --> 00:58:56,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough to do. And you should. You should

1215
00:58:57,013 --> 00:58:59,173
Speaker 2: be doubting yourself and questioning yourself all the time. So

1216
00:58:59,213 --> 00:59:01,733
Speaker 2: if someone's seeing something through then you should question it

1217
00:59:01,773 --> 00:59:04,293
Speaker 2: and see if there's any logic. And you know, as

1218
00:59:04,293 --> 00:59:05,413
Speaker 2: a leader, I would say.

1219
00:59:06,213 --> 00:59:06,933
Speaker 12: It was regular.

1220
00:59:07,053 --> 00:59:10,973
Speaker 17: Yeah, it was regular. But over that period of time

1221
00:59:13,173 --> 00:59:15,053
Speaker 17: you'll post somebody off.

1222
00:59:16,653 --> 00:59:19,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is very true because the first.

1223
00:59:19,573 --> 00:59:22,933
Speaker 17: The first thing that I that I that really hit

1224
00:59:23,013 --> 00:59:26,533
Speaker 17: home in the first six months or so, you are

1225
00:59:26,613 --> 00:59:32,413
Speaker 17: making decisions that affect other people's lives. Yes, yes, and

1226
00:59:32,773 --> 00:59:37,133
Speaker 17: I took that my role seriously, but I didn't let

1227
00:59:37,293 --> 00:59:41,773
Speaker 17: those sort of other comments get you know. I was

1228
00:59:41,813 --> 00:59:44,693
Speaker 17: always open and even today I still will talk to

1229
00:59:44,773 --> 00:59:48,013
Speaker 17: people can help, Yes, but you.

1230
00:59:48,173 --> 00:59:52,493
Speaker 2: Just know, Yeah, I mean that that's I mean if

1231
00:59:52,533 --> 00:59:56,013
Speaker 2: you take it what you If you take that role

1232
00:59:56,253 --> 00:59:59,133
Speaker 2: of affecting other people's lives seriously and then you have

1233
00:59:59,213 --> 01:00:01,813
Speaker 2: some values that you bring in and you have some

1234
01:00:03,253 --> 01:00:05,693
Speaker 2: you've thought out what you're doing and why you're doing it,

1235
01:00:05,853 --> 01:00:08,253
Speaker 2: then you're in a strong position. What you're talking about,

1236
01:00:08,533 --> 01:00:10,453
Speaker 2: Tyler is someone that's gone and doesn't really know what

1237
01:00:10,493 --> 01:00:12,853
Speaker 2: they believe and doesn't have any strong principles and is

1238
01:00:12,893 --> 01:00:15,493
Speaker 2: being knocked around in the wind. That's not the people

1239
01:00:15,573 --> 01:00:17,853
Speaker 2: I would say that you want in politics. You want

1240
01:00:17,853 --> 01:00:20,933
Speaker 2: people like a lane in politics there that goes in

1241
01:00:20,973 --> 01:00:24,213
Speaker 2: with the feeling of responsibility and has the confidence of

1242
01:00:24,933 --> 01:00:27,933
Speaker 2: their convictions and being fully.

1243
01:00:27,693 --> 01:00:31,013
Speaker 17: Aware that in our case there was twelve around the table,

1244
01:00:31,453 --> 01:00:33,613
Speaker 17: you were one vote, and if you wanted to put

1245
01:00:33,653 --> 01:00:36,613
Speaker 17: something forward, you had to do the research and the

1246
01:00:36,653 --> 01:00:43,533
Speaker 17: study and the presentation to convince the other eleven.

1247
01:00:43,253 --> 01:00:44,813
Speaker 12: People to vote with you.

1248
01:00:45,773 --> 01:00:53,213
Speaker 17: Yeah, and the one thing that I never ever neglected

1249
01:00:53,413 --> 01:01:00,893
Speaker 17: was my own personal principles and integrity is the most

1250
01:01:00,933 --> 01:01:06,013
Speaker 17: precious thing that you can look after, because without that

1251
01:01:06,053 --> 01:01:06,573
Speaker 17: you lost.

1252
01:01:07,053 --> 01:01:09,333
Speaker 3: There you go a great call from Yeah, you sound

1253
01:01:09,413 --> 01:01:10,213
Speaker 3: like a great counselor.

1254
01:01:10,333 --> 01:01:12,413
Speaker 2: That's the type of people we need in council exactly

1255
01:01:12,413 --> 01:01:14,133
Speaker 2: at people that go, don't I want to go in?

1256
01:01:14,213 --> 01:01:16,853
Speaker 2: What if someone says something mean to me, you'll know

1257
01:01:17,013 --> 01:01:18,253
Speaker 2: they might be mean to me.

1258
01:01:18,533 --> 01:01:20,693
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1259
01:01:20,733 --> 01:01:23,733
Speaker 3: to call abuse in elected positions?

1260
01:01:23,773 --> 01:01:24,573
Speaker 2: How do you deal with it?

1261
01:01:24,613 --> 01:01:26,813
Speaker 3: And just in general life, do we need to get

1262
01:01:26,853 --> 01:01:29,333
Speaker 3: a bit tough for it is twenty six to three

1263
01:01:29,373 --> 01:01:30,293
Speaker 3: headlines coming.

1264
01:01:30,173 --> 01:01:35,253
Speaker 4: Up Jew's talk said the headlines which blue bubble taxis.

1265
01:01:35,293 --> 01:01:39,053
Speaker 8: There's no trouble with a blue bubble hopes everyone's compliant

1266
01:01:39,093 --> 01:01:42,373
Speaker 8: with new building rules coming into force. The governments today

1267
01:01:42,373 --> 01:01:45,613
Speaker 8: announced safeguards to come with its consenting changes, such as

1268
01:01:45,653 --> 01:01:50,373
Speaker 8: requiring architects and engineers to hold professional indignity insurance, and

1269
01:01:50,453 --> 01:01:52,973
Speaker 8: New Zealand says it's doing everything it can to avoid

1270
01:01:53,013 --> 01:01:56,493
Speaker 8: cabin cruz striking next month. A strike notice is in

1271
01:01:56,533 --> 01:02:00,333
Speaker 8: place for December eighth, with unionized staff demanding greatest salaries

1272
01:02:00,373 --> 01:02:03,813
Speaker 8: and allowances. Police have found a body in christ Church's

1273
01:02:03,893 --> 01:02:06,853
Speaker 8: Lake Rua after a man went missing last night. The

1274
01:02:06,853 --> 01:02:08,973
Speaker 8: body is yet to be identified and the death will

1275
01:02:09,013 --> 01:02:12,893
Speaker 8: be referred to the coroner. National's election focus on savings

1276
01:02:12,973 --> 01:02:15,813
Speaker 8: is going down well in the finance space. The party's

1277
01:02:15,813 --> 01:02:18,853
Speaker 8: promising to lift the default key. We savor contributions for

1278
01:02:18,973 --> 01:02:23,013
Speaker 8: workers and employers each to six percent by twenty thirty two.

1279
01:02:23,813 --> 01:02:26,253
Speaker 8: The Prime Minister seems skeptical about the results of this

1280
01:02:26,373 --> 01:02:30,013
Speaker 8: year's cop thirty Climate summit. While there, our Climate Minister

1281
01:02:30,093 --> 01:02:33,573
Speaker 8: reaffirmed the government commitment to limiting warming to one point

1282
01:02:33,693 --> 01:02:37,573
Speaker 8: five degrees plus. How No ugly built a business on

1283
01:02:37,653 --> 01:02:40,813
Speaker 8: better drinks. See the full story at ends at Herald Premium.

1284
01:02:40,973 --> 01:02:42,413
Speaker 8: Now back to Matt and Tyler.

1285
01:02:42,493 --> 01:02:44,853
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy twenty two to three.

1286
01:02:45,053 --> 01:02:48,093
Speaker 2: I always think about this quote from the Great Stephen

1287
01:02:48,213 --> 01:02:52,533
Speaker 2: Frye on offense and taking offense. He said that there's

1288
01:02:52,533 --> 01:02:54,973
Speaker 2: a lot of talk these days about people being offended

1289
01:02:55,413 --> 01:02:59,053
Speaker 2: and people taking offense. And he said being offended is

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Speaker 2: actually nothing more than a whine. It has no meaning,

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01:03:01,253 --> 01:03:02,973
Speaker 2: it has no purpose, it is no reason to be

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01:03:03,013 --> 01:03:05,573
Speaker 2: respected as a phrase. I'm offended by that. Well, so

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01:03:05,733 --> 01:03:09,093
Speaker 2: effing what. He's a brilliant man. Even that's the idea

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01:03:09,133 --> 01:03:12,213
Speaker 2: that you take offense. This text says, totally agree. Instead

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01:03:12,213 --> 01:03:14,573
Speaker 2: of teaching our kids that words only mean something if

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01:03:14,613 --> 01:03:17,133
Speaker 2: you let them. But now, words can damage us, I mean,

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01:03:17,453 --> 01:03:20,253
Speaker 2: not looking forward that we are heading for what we're

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01:03:20,293 --> 01:03:22,013
Speaker 2: heading for with us saying the ones that learn not

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01:03:22,053 --> 01:03:24,533
Speaker 2: to worry about words will rule the world. I think

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01:03:24,533 --> 01:03:27,413
Speaker 2: they already do absolutely. I mean, if you tail kids

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01:03:27,493 --> 01:03:30,693
Speaker 2: that words can hurt you, then words will hurt them.

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01:03:31,013 --> 01:03:34,213
Speaker 2: But if you teach them ways to deal with insults,

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01:03:34,853 --> 01:03:37,733
Speaker 2: then then they will be They'll do a lot better

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01:03:37,733 --> 01:03:40,853
Speaker 2: in life. Because if people can just hurt you with words.

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01:03:41,773 --> 01:03:46,293
Speaker 2: It's like June, It's like Mahadeba. His name will be

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01:03:46,333 --> 01:03:49,253
Speaker 2: a killing word if you give words that kind of power.

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01:03:49,293 --> 01:03:51,173
Speaker 2: I mean, it's very easy to throw words out, especially

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01:03:51,253 --> 01:03:54,933
Speaker 2: on the Internet anonymously. So in this you and you

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01:03:54,933 --> 01:03:58,653
Speaker 2: will never get the world free of insults. You'll never

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01:03:58,693 --> 01:04:00,693
Speaker 2: go through your life without people saying something mean to you,

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01:04:00,933 --> 01:04:02,933
Speaker 2: gossiping about you, just in your friends group, on the

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01:04:02,933 --> 01:04:05,733
Speaker 2: internet anywhere, let alone when you go into government.

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01:04:05,813 --> 01:04:05,933
Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, well you're going to train the entire universe

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Speaker 2: just for yourself because you can't handle it. Yeah, it's

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01:04:11,693 --> 01:04:12,173
Speaker 2: a good point.

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01:04:12,333 --> 01:04:15,293
Speaker 3: Uh, Kathy, you want to have a chat about how

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01:04:15,333 --> 01:04:16,253
Speaker 3: you used to handle it.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, well, listen, when I was a kid, while I

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01:04:20,293 --> 01:04:22,533
Speaker 18: was listening to Elaine, I realized that she was saying

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01:04:22,693 --> 01:04:25,013
Speaker 18: some of the same stuff. When I was a kid,

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01:04:25,093 --> 01:04:28,213
Speaker 18: we were taught, as she said, fix and stones will

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01:04:28,213 --> 01:04:30,773
Speaker 18: break your phones, but names will never harm you. And

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01:04:30,853 --> 01:04:34,173
Speaker 18: so if somebody offended me, it was an immediate thing

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01:04:34,213 --> 01:04:35,853
Speaker 18: in those days. You know, it was one kid or

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01:04:35,853 --> 01:04:38,493
Speaker 18: a group of kids saying something mean. And you don't

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01:04:38,733 --> 01:04:40,973
Speaker 18: sticks and stones and break my phones, but names will

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01:04:40,973 --> 01:04:43,093
Speaker 18: never harm me. Walk away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: Nowadays. Nowadays what happens is a lots of especial young people,

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Speaker 18: the politicians. Also everybody will get an insult on the

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Speaker 18: internet and it stays there forever. It just stays there.

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Speaker 18: And you can't be sitting sitting there typing, typing, typing

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01:05:01,213 --> 01:05:05,933
Speaker 18: sticks and stones, sticks and stones, you know, So there

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01:05:05,973 --> 01:05:08,173
Speaker 18: isn't that kind of defense. It has to be internal

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01:05:08,173 --> 01:05:11,893
Speaker 18: lif And I also want to say something, and I

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01:05:11,893 --> 01:05:14,093
Speaker 18: hope this is okay, because when I told this story

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01:05:14,133 --> 01:05:17,253
Speaker 18: to other people, that's been a kind of reaction.

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Speaker 2: So bear with Okay, sounds good, Okay.

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Speaker 18: Many years ago, there was I can't remember his name,

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01:05:24,173 --> 01:05:27,693
Speaker 18: but there was a very famous beat next poet who

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01:05:28,013 --> 01:05:31,413
Speaker 18: got up to a microphone. I'm American. He got up

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01:05:31,453 --> 01:05:35,053
Speaker 18: to a microphone at a reading one.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much there, Katney. I think we've just

1345
01:05:39,213 --> 01:05:41,813
Speaker 3: lost Kathy, but thank you very much for your phone call.

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01:05:42,693 --> 01:05:45,253
Speaker 3: One hundred eighty eight is that number to call? Nine

1347
01:05:45,333 --> 01:05:47,213
Speaker 3: two ninety two is the tech.

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Speaker 2: When when the victim is part of a cohort regularly

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01:05:52,733 --> 01:05:55,693
Speaker 2: subjected to insult, it is simply wrong to state that

1350
01:05:55,733 --> 01:05:59,293
Speaker 2: they should harden up such rhetoricas old and outdated and

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01:05:59,333 --> 01:06:02,213
Speaker 2: the humous race aspires and the main to be advanced

1352
01:06:02,253 --> 01:06:05,373
Speaker 2: not considered abuse anything that stems from it in any

1353
01:06:05,413 --> 01:06:10,333
Speaker 2: arena or cohert to be dealt with. See, I think

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01:06:10,333 --> 01:06:13,493
Speaker 2: that is ridiculous. When the victim is part of a

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01:06:13,493 --> 01:06:16,453
Speaker 2: cohort regularly subjected to an insult, is simply wrong to

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01:06:16,493 --> 01:06:19,533
Speaker 2: state they should harden up. But else what is the

1357
01:06:19,573 --> 01:06:22,173
Speaker 2: other option? Is just to be injured by everything that

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01:06:22,213 --> 01:06:23,093
Speaker 2: anyone ever says?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, the more I think about this discussion,

1360
01:06:27,293 --> 01:06:31,653
Speaker 3: and you're right logically, and I know that, but the

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01:06:31,693 --> 01:06:34,533
Speaker 3: whole thing about backing your judgment, and I do that now,

1362
01:06:34,813 --> 01:06:35,933
Speaker 3: but I didn't used to.

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01:06:35,973 --> 01:06:36,493
Speaker 2: As a kid.

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01:06:37,013 --> 01:06:39,533
Speaker 3: I needed some reassurance from people around me, and I

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01:06:39,573 --> 01:06:42,413
Speaker 3: got that from some family members, but then when friends

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01:06:42,453 --> 01:06:45,173
Speaker 3: would doubt me, and then that would get stuck in

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01:06:45,173 --> 01:06:46,653
Speaker 3: my head. So it was a wee bit of time

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01:06:46,693 --> 01:06:49,373
Speaker 3: before I'd had the self confidence and belief in my

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01:06:49,413 --> 01:06:52,453
Speaker 3: own convictions. But I know a lot of people still

1370
01:06:52,493 --> 01:06:55,453
Speaker 3: have that self doubt and whether I can do that,

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01:06:55,493 --> 01:06:58,533
Speaker 3: and you still need support around you. But it's the

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01:06:58,613 --> 01:07:01,373
Speaker 3: judgment and the insults you trust, right.

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01:07:01,293 --> 01:07:04,893
Speaker 2: But that's part of becoming an adult, right, So you know, like,

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01:07:04,933 --> 01:07:06,853
Speaker 2: if a kid's bullying another kid, then you need to

1375
01:07:06,893 --> 01:07:09,733
Speaker 2: do something about it. As a teacher, yeah, absolutely, and

1376
01:07:09,773 --> 01:07:12,893
Speaker 2: as a parent and all that kind of stuff. But

1377
01:07:13,013 --> 01:07:17,773
Speaker 2: you're going through life learning the techniques to be an adult.

1378
01:07:18,093 --> 01:07:20,213
Speaker 2: And one of the techniques of being an adult, to

1379
01:07:20,253 --> 01:07:22,613
Speaker 2: be a fully realized and competent adult, is to be

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01:07:22,653 --> 01:07:25,773
Speaker 2: able to deal with some of the abuse you're going

1381
01:07:25,773 --> 01:07:27,333
Speaker 2: to get. You're going to get it on the roads,

1382
01:07:27,653 --> 01:07:28,973
Speaker 2: You're going to get it on the internet, if you

1383
01:07:29,053 --> 01:07:31,853
Speaker 2: choose to be on social media, you're if you go

1384
01:07:31,933 --> 01:07:34,653
Speaker 2: into public life. The idea that you could go into

1385
01:07:34,653 --> 01:07:37,413
Speaker 2: public life and some of your constituents aren't going to

1386
01:07:37,453 --> 01:07:40,053
Speaker 2: say something nasty to you, considering at least five percent

1387
01:07:40,093 --> 01:07:44,013
Speaker 2: of them are insane as crazy. So when you're little,

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01:07:44,173 --> 01:07:47,693
Speaker 2: absolutely it'll hurt. But then that's why you don't teach

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01:07:47,733 --> 01:07:51,253
Speaker 2: them that those words do hurt you. You teach them

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01:07:51,293 --> 01:07:53,013
Speaker 2: how to deal with them. And there are some very

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01:07:53,013 --> 01:07:54,573
Speaker 2: basic ways that you can do that.

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01:07:55,493 --> 01:07:57,333
Speaker 3: I get your point about elected members or in fact,

1393
01:07:57,413 --> 01:07:59,213
Speaker 3: anyone who's in the public eye.

1394
01:07:59,373 --> 01:08:00,973
Speaker 2: You've got to prepare yourself for that.

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01:08:01,453 --> 01:08:04,253
Speaker 3: And I'm being you know, I'm talking about myself here,

1396
01:08:04,253 --> 01:08:06,733
Speaker 3: But when you jump into this text machine and we

1397
01:08:06,773 --> 01:08:09,253
Speaker 3: deal with it on a daily basis and learn that

1398
01:08:09,693 --> 01:08:11,733
Speaker 3: five percent are just a little bit nutty, and you

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01:08:11,733 --> 01:08:13,413
Speaker 3: have a We laugh about some of the things that

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01:08:13,413 --> 01:08:16,053
Speaker 3: they say, but you're quite right. Anyone who gets into

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01:08:16,333 --> 01:08:18,572
Speaker 3: to wanting to become a politician, that is part and

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01:08:18,613 --> 01:08:19,452
Speaker 3: parcel of the job.

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01:08:19,572 --> 01:08:21,293
Speaker 2: Well, this text says one hundred percent agree that we

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01:08:21,333 --> 01:08:22,812
Speaker 2: all need to harden up a bit, but we also

1405
01:08:22,813 --> 01:08:25,492
Speaker 2: should not normalize people being allowed or encouraged to abuse

1406
01:08:25,492 --> 01:08:27,372
Speaker 2: people as much as they like, because we all need

1407
01:08:27,412 --> 01:08:30,732
Speaker 2: to harden up either. Well, see that, I would agree,

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01:08:30,812 --> 01:08:34,213
Speaker 2: But the thing is that the person that's abusing you

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01:08:34,692 --> 01:08:38,133
Speaker 2: is the loser in this situation. Just because you harden

1410
01:08:38,253 --> 01:08:40,092
Speaker 2: up doesn't make them the good person, or them bright

1411
01:08:40,213 --> 01:08:43,013
Speaker 2: or what they're doing. Okay, It just means that they

1412
01:08:43,013 --> 01:08:46,572
Speaker 2: can't affect you. And if you're allowing someone that's abusing

1413
01:08:46,612 --> 01:08:50,252
Speaker 2: you to affect you and take you down just with words,

1414
01:08:50,692 --> 01:08:53,612
Speaker 2: you know, they're not physically attacking you, they're not kidnapping you,

1415
01:08:53,732 --> 01:08:55,652
Speaker 2: but they're taking down with words, then you're giving them

1416
01:08:55,652 --> 01:09:00,052
Speaker 2: a power that they don't deserve. So, in my thinking,

1417
01:09:01,372 --> 01:09:06,372
Speaker 2: the hardening yourself to abuse is actually lowering the person

1418
01:09:06,412 --> 01:09:09,253
Speaker 2: to abuse you. It's taking something away from them. It's

1419
01:09:09,293 --> 01:09:12,053
Speaker 2: making the empathetic and you strong. It's a lot of

1420
01:09:12,133 --> 01:09:12,652
Speaker 2: logic in it.

1421
01:09:12,812 --> 01:09:15,213
Speaker 3: Yes, right, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1422
01:09:15,253 --> 01:09:16,372
Speaker 3: that number to call?

1423
01:09:16,532 --> 01:09:20,612
Speaker 2: It is sixteen to three. Pack in the mow mad Heath.

1424
01:09:20,732 --> 01:09:23,852
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on mad

1425
01:09:23,893 --> 01:09:26,812
Speaker 1: Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk.

1426
01:09:26,692 --> 01:09:30,013
Speaker 3: Sa'd be It is thirteen to three and we are

1427
01:09:30,053 --> 01:09:32,692
Speaker 3: talking about abuse when it comes to being an elected member.

1428
01:09:33,013 --> 01:09:35,612
Speaker 3: There is a councilor, Julie Ferry, who talked about the

1429
01:09:35,612 --> 01:09:36,452
Speaker 3: abuse she's.

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01:09:36,293 --> 01:09:39,892
Speaker 2: Had during her time as a counselor. Now at the

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01:09:39,933 --> 01:09:41,253
Speaker 2: end of this hour, before the end of the hour,

1432
01:09:41,572 --> 01:09:45,412
Speaker 2: I'll I'll share I've compiled a list of techniques to

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01:09:45,452 --> 01:09:47,812
Speaker 2: deal with abuse hice. Okay, this is from from a

1434
01:09:47,812 --> 01:09:50,213
Speaker 2: philosophical point of view. It'll be a good piece because

1435
01:09:50,213 --> 01:09:51,492
Speaker 2: it's something that I've worked on a lot in my

1436
01:09:51,532 --> 01:09:53,213
Speaker 2: life when I wrote about it heavily in my book,

1437
01:09:53,853 --> 01:09:58,172
Speaker 2: my book on Being Off the Chat Run Being Offended.

1438
01:09:58,612 --> 01:10:00,133
Speaker 2: So I've done a bit of research on it. You

1439
01:10:00,133 --> 01:10:04,172
Speaker 2: know it's going to be good. Chris, how are you boys?

1440
01:10:04,973 --> 01:10:08,093
Speaker 19: I love the tough enough approach about when it comes

1441
01:10:08,133 --> 01:10:14,612
Speaker 19: to you know, people, I've given you crack. If you

1442
01:10:14,732 --> 01:10:17,053
Speaker 19: allow the words of other people that mean nothing to

1443
01:10:17,213 --> 01:10:22,772
Speaker 19: you to like to get to you go to a

1444
01:10:22,853 --> 01:10:27,733
Speaker 19: mental strengthen and coach to do something about that, because

1445
01:10:27,812 --> 01:10:31,133
Speaker 19: people are always going to do that to, especially politicians

1446
01:10:31,213 --> 01:10:34,492
Speaker 19: or people in office. But if you're going to get

1447
01:10:34,492 --> 01:10:39,532
Speaker 19: that job over it, you should expect that anyway. Like wakey, wakey.

1448
01:10:41,692 --> 01:10:44,452
Speaker 19: If anyone ever has a crack at me and it's

1449
01:10:44,612 --> 01:10:47,333
Speaker 19: right and it's a good crack, I'll say, well done,

1450
01:10:47,612 --> 01:10:52,253
Speaker 19: good point. Otherwise, altern around it's for a bad reason

1451
01:10:52,812 --> 01:10:56,772
Speaker 19: and it's not necessarily correct, I'll say, hey, your words

1452
01:10:56,772 --> 01:11:01,772
Speaker 19: are very important, please keep talking. That shuts them up

1453
01:11:01,812 --> 01:11:03,852
Speaker 19: real quick because they know that I don't care and

1454
01:11:03,933 --> 01:11:07,572
Speaker 19: I'm listening to it, you know, especially the old boys

1455
01:11:07,612 --> 01:11:09,492
Speaker 19: at the pub on you know when I was. It's

1456
01:11:09,492 --> 01:11:13,492
Speaker 19: a matter, you know, So you just put everybody back

1457
01:11:13,492 --> 01:11:16,692
Speaker 19: in their place. And the only people that'll ever take

1458
01:11:16,732 --> 01:11:19,852
Speaker 19: crap from are actually my family or my wife's family

1459
01:11:20,213 --> 01:11:23,053
Speaker 19: if they've got a genuine point to make. Yeah that

1460
01:11:23,133 --> 01:11:25,812
Speaker 19: I have to go through this. But like it's all

1461
01:11:25,853 --> 01:11:28,213
Speaker 19: about listening to the people that are important to you

1462
01:11:29,013 --> 01:11:31,452
Speaker 19: and not the ones that aren't. So if you go

1463
01:11:31,572 --> 01:11:34,972
Speaker 19: into a political office and go, oh, someone said bad words,

1464
01:11:35,173 --> 01:11:37,412
Speaker 19: you're even the wrong job. Get out of there.

1465
01:11:37,812 --> 01:11:41,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so, but do you think that we're normalizing

1466
01:11:41,452 --> 01:11:44,652
Speaker 2: the idea that people should hide from abuse and not

1467
01:11:44,732 --> 01:11:46,333
Speaker 2: do what they want to do just in case they

1468
01:11:46,372 --> 01:11:51,053
Speaker 2: get abused because you go christ sorry, now you.

1469
01:11:51,013 --> 01:11:54,692
Speaker 19: Go yeah, sorry to interrupt, I reckon, Just give it

1470
01:11:54,732 --> 01:11:56,333
Speaker 19: back to them and go what.

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01:11:56,253 --> 01:11:57,213
Speaker 6: Do you do for a job?

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01:11:57,933 --> 01:12:01,133
Speaker 19: How why are you writing this email to me at

1473
01:12:01,133 --> 01:12:03,492
Speaker 19: ten point fifteen when you should be at work. Get

1474
01:12:03,492 --> 01:12:08,012
Speaker 19: a job and contribute to New Zealand control, like that's.

1475
01:12:07,853 --> 01:12:08,293
Speaker 5: All you are.

1476
01:12:08,652 --> 01:12:13,412
Speaker 19: If you're only achievements in humanity times that other country

1477
01:12:13,412 --> 01:12:15,293
Speaker 19: could save some money if you're not here, I'll.

1478
01:12:15,133 --> 01:12:17,452
Speaker 2: Tell you what. Another thing that's really powerful is silence.

1479
01:12:18,893 --> 01:12:21,572
Speaker 2: If someone abuses you, however it is, and then you

1480
01:12:21,652 --> 01:12:23,933
Speaker 2: just don't respond for as long as even if you

1481
01:12:23,973 --> 01:12:26,932
Speaker 2: count to seven before you say something back, and then

1482
01:12:26,933 --> 01:12:28,652
Speaker 2: they just have to steal in their own juices of

1483
01:12:28,692 --> 01:12:32,133
Speaker 2: what they said, or then you repeat back to them

1484
01:12:32,133 --> 01:12:35,772
Speaker 2: what they've said. So I am. So you wait seven

1485
01:12:35,812 --> 01:12:38,012
Speaker 2: seconds and repeat what they've said back to them that's

1486
01:12:38,053 --> 01:12:40,612
Speaker 2: a very powerful way because they just have to deal

1487
01:12:40,692 --> 01:12:43,333
Speaker 2: with what they've said and who they are. And so

1488
01:12:43,452 --> 01:12:46,293
Speaker 2: sometimes I mean, I agree with it, Chris, and potentially

1489
01:12:46,333 --> 01:12:48,012
Speaker 2: you just maybe need to think that in your mind,

1490
01:12:48,053 --> 01:12:50,093
Speaker 2: who are you at ten to fifty? But sometimes people

1491
01:12:50,133 --> 01:12:52,133
Speaker 2: are just abusing you because they're screaming into the void

1492
01:12:52,133 --> 01:12:55,253
Speaker 2: and they want a response from someone. They just desperately

1493
01:12:55,333 --> 01:12:57,732
Speaker 2: want to take a piece off someone more powerful than them.

1494
01:12:58,053 --> 01:13:01,173
Speaker 2: They just want to be heard, and so sometimes you

1495
01:13:01,293 --> 01:13:03,213
Speaker 2: just throw a fuel on the fire. Sometimes it's better

1496
01:13:03,253 --> 01:13:05,492
Speaker 2: just to let them scream into the void and leave

1497
01:13:05,532 --> 01:13:07,572
Speaker 2: them alone. Hey, thank you so much for your call, Chris.

1498
01:13:07,572 --> 01:13:10,932
Speaker 3: I really appreciate a couple of texts before we've got

1499
01:13:10,933 --> 01:13:12,173
Speaker 3: to play some messages.

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01:13:12,772 --> 01:13:15,532
Speaker 2: Hi, guys. I'm a district councilor in the Lower North Island.

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01:13:15,612 --> 01:13:17,572
Speaker 2: I've always taken the view that I am fear game

1502
01:13:17,612 --> 01:13:19,732
Speaker 2: and people can say what they wanted public or online.

1503
01:13:19,772 --> 01:13:21,812
Speaker 2: I never let it bother me and give us back

1504
01:13:21,893 --> 01:13:23,372
Speaker 2: as good as I get. The only time I have

1505
01:13:23,412 --> 01:13:26,732
Speaker 2: been upset by words was when someone referred reference my

1506
01:13:26,812 --> 01:13:29,412
Speaker 2: young kids being abducted from their school and then that

1507
01:13:29,612 --> 01:13:32,973
Speaker 2: I would take notices polishans, politicians are fear game, their

1508
01:13:33,013 --> 01:13:35,053
Speaker 2: families are not. Yeah, I mean that's a different thing.

1509
01:13:35,053 --> 01:13:36,652
Speaker 2: We're talking about a view. So if someone if someone

1510
01:13:36,652 --> 01:13:39,052
Speaker 2: threatens your family or threatens you, then that's a matter,

1511
01:13:39,412 --> 01:13:41,852
Speaker 2: and that's credible. Then that's a matter for the police.

1512
01:13:41,893 --> 01:13:46,173
Speaker 2: That's a criminal matter, and that that's there's recourse for that.

1513
01:13:46,213 --> 01:13:49,412
Speaker 2: You've got it. If someone threatens you bodily, you got

1514
01:13:49,412 --> 01:13:51,892
Speaker 2: to go to the cops. Yeah, very different. Right. It

1515
01:13:52,053 --> 01:13:55,012
Speaker 2: is eight minutes to three when we come back.

1516
01:13:55,253 --> 01:13:57,932
Speaker 3: But of a PSA. But a few strategies that Matt's

1517
01:13:57,973 --> 01:14:01,772
Speaker 3: compiled on what you should do when someone abuses you.

1518
01:14:01,853 --> 01:14:02,532
Speaker 3: That's coming up.

1519
01:14:03,173 --> 01:14:09,852
Speaker 2: Punishing from Heath, abuse me for it.

1520
01:14:07,893 --> 01:14:10,372
Speaker 1: The issue that affect you, and a bit of fun

1521
01:14:10,412 --> 01:14:14,293
Speaker 1: along the way, Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons news talks.

1522
01:14:14,333 --> 01:14:14,692
Speaker 5: That'd be.

1523
01:14:16,612 --> 01:14:19,773
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. It is five to three.

1524
01:14:20,053 --> 01:14:24,053
Speaker 2: Okay, So look, we can control our this is what

1525
01:14:24,093 --> 01:14:25,973
Speaker 2: stoics believe. I'm a big fan of their stoics. We

1526
01:14:26,053 --> 01:14:29,092
Speaker 2: can we can control our internal responses to external events.

1527
01:14:29,452 --> 01:14:32,093
Speaker 2: Other people's opinions and words are external to us. What

1528
01:14:32,173 --> 01:14:34,333
Speaker 2: they say and think is up to them. We can't

1529
01:14:34,333 --> 01:14:36,213
Speaker 2: control that. We live in a world where people will

1530
01:14:36,213 --> 01:14:39,892
Speaker 2: say nasty things, whether we like it or not. We

1531
01:14:40,013 --> 01:14:42,532
Speaker 2: have the power to brush aside ridicule and disrespect and

1532
01:14:42,532 --> 01:14:46,412
Speaker 2: instead focus our energies in more positive directions. That's absolutely truth.

1533
01:14:46,452 --> 01:14:49,253
Speaker 2: Allowing the whims of other people to upset us is

1534
01:14:49,333 --> 01:14:52,333
Speaker 2: a haphazard way to live. You are handing over your

1535
01:14:52,333 --> 01:14:54,972
Speaker 2: tranquility and happiness to anyone who might come your way.

1536
01:14:55,532 --> 01:14:57,732
Speaker 2: That's giving away the only real power you have, the

1537
01:14:57,772 --> 01:15:00,572
Speaker 2: quality of your thoughts. So, I mean, the first question

1538
01:15:00,612 --> 01:15:03,173
Speaker 2: if someone insults you is you can ask is it true?

1539
01:15:03,933 --> 01:15:06,692
Speaker 2: And you put it through this this little spectrum here,

1540
01:15:06,772 --> 01:15:11,652
Speaker 2: this little test yep, is it true? If yes, then

1541
01:15:11,652 --> 01:15:14,093
Speaker 2: it's not an insult. If someone says you stink, and

1542
01:15:14,173 --> 01:15:16,333
Speaker 2: you do sink, stink, then that's not an insult. That's

1543
01:15:16,333 --> 01:15:19,372
Speaker 2: the truth, right, How can you be insulted by the truth.

1544
01:15:20,973 --> 01:15:24,333
Speaker 2: If it's not true, then it's nonsense. And why would

1545
01:15:24,333 --> 01:15:26,173
Speaker 2: you be insulted by nonsense. If someone tells you that

1546
01:15:26,213 --> 01:15:29,173
Speaker 2: you're stinking, you don't stink, then that's just nonsense. So

1547
01:15:29,253 --> 01:15:31,412
Speaker 2: either way, you can't be offended. If it's true, take

1548
01:15:31,412 --> 01:15:34,612
Speaker 2: it on board. If you are communists scum as the

1549
01:15:35,652 --> 01:15:38,333
Speaker 2: thing that started this, you know, look at it and go,

1550
01:15:38,372 --> 01:15:40,652
Speaker 2: am I communist scum? You go, actually, no, I'm not.

1551
01:15:41,133 --> 01:15:45,572
Speaker 2: Therefore I'm not offended by this. It's pretty simple. And look,

1552
01:15:45,612 --> 01:15:48,372
Speaker 2: I think I think that one thing that's really important is,

1553
01:15:48,532 --> 01:15:51,932
Speaker 2: you know the credibility of the insulter. As my friend

1554
01:15:52,053 --> 01:15:55,692
Speaker 2: Maniah always says, Great, Great New Zealand. And when I

1555
01:15:55,692 --> 01:15:58,053
Speaker 2: asked Youart, don't take insults from people you wouldn't take

1556
01:15:58,093 --> 01:16:00,612
Speaker 2: advice from. So that's a great saying that one. So

1557
01:16:00,652 --> 01:16:02,572
Speaker 2: if you're sitting around getting offended by someone that you

1558
01:16:02,572 --> 01:16:05,452
Speaker 2: have no respect for, then you're an idiot, you know,

1559
01:16:05,492 --> 01:16:07,772
Speaker 2: if you wouldn't take their advice, don't take their insults.

1560
01:16:07,893 --> 01:16:11,692
Speaker 3: YEAHSA, and some great knowledge there if you're facing a

1561
01:16:11,692 --> 01:16:12,812
Speaker 3: bit of abuse in your life.

1562
01:16:12,853 --> 01:16:15,133
Speaker 2: And good discussion. Thank you very much to everyone who called.

1563
01:16:15,452 --> 01:16:19,293
Speaker 3: Right coming up after three o'clock, we want your lawn tips.

1564
01:16:19,333 --> 01:16:23,172
Speaker 3: Matt is deep into his long game at the moment.

1565
01:16:23,812 --> 01:16:26,892
Speaker 3: Your lawn tips and your abuse come on through News

1566
01:16:26,973 --> 01:16:29,732
Speaker 3: is next, your.

1567
01:16:29,732 --> 01:16:32,652
Speaker 4: New home are insateful and entertaining talk.

1568
01:16:32,893 --> 01:16:38,452
Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk sebby Very.

1569
01:16:38,333 --> 01:16:41,053
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Jue seven past three before we.

1570
01:16:41,013 --> 01:16:42,772
Speaker 2: Move on to the next subject. I just want to

1571
01:16:42,772 --> 01:16:46,093
Speaker 2: put to bed the offence subject where I've said that

1572
01:16:46,772 --> 01:16:49,093
Speaker 2: people should learn to deal with the fence rather than

1573
01:16:49,133 --> 01:16:53,572
Speaker 2: expect the universe to well, I mean, how did I

1574
01:16:53,612 --> 01:16:57,053
Speaker 2: put it before? Allowing the whims of other people to

1575
01:16:57,133 --> 01:16:59,532
Speaker 2: upset you as a haphazard way to live, You're handing

1576
01:16:59,572 --> 01:17:02,852
Speaker 2: over your tranquility and happiness to anyone who might come

1577
01:17:02,893 --> 01:17:05,253
Speaker 2: your way. So that's giving away the only real power

1578
01:17:05,253 --> 01:17:07,492
Speaker 2: you have, the quality of your thoughts. We live in

1579
01:17:07,492 --> 01:17:09,892
Speaker 2: a world where people say nasty things, whether you like

1580
01:17:09,933 --> 01:17:12,772
Speaker 2: it or not, but we have the power and we

1581
01:17:12,772 --> 01:17:15,133
Speaker 2: can learn to brush it aside, right yep. So you

1582
01:17:15,173 --> 01:17:17,372
Speaker 2: know I thought it was only fair that I because

1583
01:17:17,412 --> 01:17:20,372
Speaker 2: I've been We get so many we get so many

1584
01:17:20,412 --> 01:17:23,532
Speaker 2: nice texts, yes, and by far the majority of a

1585
01:17:23,652 --> 01:17:27,333
Speaker 2: nice informative text. Love doing this job, Love talking to

1586
01:17:27,372 --> 01:17:29,293
Speaker 2: people on our way one hundred eighty ten eighty, love

1587
01:17:29,372 --> 01:17:31,932
Speaker 2: the feedback on the text. And we have a hold

1588
01:17:31,973 --> 01:17:34,253
Speaker 2: back and forth with people on the show that never

1589
01:17:34,293 --> 01:17:36,372
Speaker 2: goes to air, just communicating with people, because you know,

1590
01:17:36,412 --> 01:17:38,492
Speaker 2: that's what we're here for, the conversation, true, right, But

1591
01:17:38,532 --> 01:17:40,532
Speaker 2: we also get a lot of abuse yep, we do.

1592
01:17:41,213 --> 01:17:45,293
Speaker 2: And so to practice what I preach, then I'm going

1593
01:17:45,333 --> 01:17:47,093
Speaker 2: to read out some of the abusive texts that got

1594
01:17:47,093 --> 01:17:50,612
Speaker 2: through and put them through my policy. All right, please

1595
01:17:50,652 --> 01:17:53,253
Speaker 2: do it's going to be great. Matt Heath. You are

1596
01:17:53,293 --> 01:17:55,372
Speaker 2: just a middle class white dude telling people not to

1597
01:17:55,372 --> 01:17:58,372
Speaker 2: be offended. Easy for you, Okay, So I'll put that

1598
01:17:58,572 --> 01:18:04,412
Speaker 2: through the basic inzul gang a test and certain insult?

1599
01:18:04,532 --> 01:18:06,932
Speaker 2: Is it true? If yes, then it's not an insult

1600
01:18:07,253 --> 01:18:11,012
Speaker 2: why be offended by? If no, then it is nonsense. Okay,

1601
01:18:11,333 --> 01:18:14,772
Speaker 2: So Matt Heath, you are middle class. Yes, I am

1602
01:18:14,812 --> 01:18:15,333
Speaker 2: middle class.

1603
01:18:15,333 --> 01:18:17,173
Speaker 3: I'd sa upper middle, but anyway, carry on.

1604
01:18:20,933 --> 01:18:23,173
Speaker 2: I was definitely brought up middle class. Yea, yeah, okay, yeah,

1605
01:18:23,173 --> 01:18:25,892
Speaker 2: you've got a middle class mentality. And I'm pretty white.

1606
01:18:25,973 --> 01:18:27,612
Speaker 2: I'm white, ash Actually I'm not that white.

1607
01:18:27,612 --> 01:18:29,973
Speaker 3: Really, you're pretty tan these days. Actually that's a lot

1608
01:18:30,013 --> 01:18:30,852
Speaker 3: of garden work.

1609
01:18:30,853 --> 01:18:33,053
Speaker 2: By the look, I get what you mean. I'm of

1610
01:18:33,293 --> 01:18:36,452
Speaker 2: Irish ancestry. So I guess what I get what you

1611
01:18:36,452 --> 01:18:38,053
Speaker 2: mean when you say I'm a middle class white dear,

1612
01:18:38,133 --> 01:18:40,052
Speaker 2: and I'm telling people not to be offended. That is true.

1613
01:18:40,093 --> 01:18:43,612
Speaker 2: I am telling people not to be offended. Easy for you. Yes,

1614
01:18:43,652 --> 01:18:45,772
Speaker 2: it is easy for me, so that is not really

1615
01:18:45,772 --> 01:18:47,972
Speaker 2: an insult. I am a middle class white dude telling

1616
01:18:48,013 --> 01:18:49,652
Speaker 2: people not to be offended. So when I put it

1617
01:18:49,692 --> 01:18:52,452
Speaker 2: through this test, is it true. It's all true, Yes,

1618
01:18:52,532 --> 01:18:54,732
Speaker 2: and it's not an insult. Okay, So that's a.

1619
01:18:54,692 --> 01:18:57,133
Speaker 3: Big thank you to that sex. I'm thank you very

1620
01:18:57,173 --> 01:18:58,012
Speaker 3: much for your honesty.

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01:18:58,053 --> 01:19:01,213
Speaker 2: I'm not offended by that one. O. This Texas is

1622
01:19:01,213 --> 01:19:03,492
Speaker 2: pop philosophy from some guy who thinks he knows more

1623
01:19:03,532 --> 01:19:07,492
Speaker 2: than others. Yeah, it's popular philosophy these days. I think

1624
01:19:07,772 --> 01:19:11,012
Speaker 2: was basically stoic philosophy, and also a lot of it's

1625
01:19:11,013 --> 01:19:14,012
Speaker 2: from my number one best selling book, are Lifeless Punishing

1626
01:19:14,293 --> 01:19:16,293
Speaker 2: Thirteen Ways to Love the Life You've Got by man

1627
01:19:16,293 --> 01:19:20,252
Speaker 2: he Yep, so pop meaning popular, I mean, by definition

1628
01:19:20,293 --> 01:19:22,972
Speaker 2: of my book is very popular. Yeah, it's number one

1629
01:19:22,973 --> 01:19:25,732
Speaker 2: best selling, it's maybe a lot of money. Yep, so

1630
01:19:25,973 --> 01:19:28,492
Speaker 2: very well. Again, very true. It's a very upper middle

1631
01:19:28,532 --> 01:19:31,892
Speaker 2: class by some guy who thinks he knows more than others.

1632
01:19:31,933 --> 01:19:34,053
Speaker 2: I think I know more than some, but not all

1633
01:19:34,652 --> 01:19:37,972
Speaker 2: there is. I definitely have read more philosophy than some, yes,

1634
01:19:38,772 --> 01:19:42,173
Speaker 2: seeing as I wrote a whole book. Yeah, but there's

1635
01:19:42,173 --> 01:19:44,973
Speaker 2: definitely there's definitely a lot of people that know more

1636
01:19:45,013 --> 01:19:49,012
Speaker 2: than me about everything. Yeah, so I would say pop philosophy. Yes,

1637
01:19:49,572 --> 01:19:52,093
Speaker 2: from a guy who thinks he knows more than others. Yeah,

1638
01:19:52,133 --> 01:19:53,652
Speaker 2: I think I know more than others. So that, once

1639
01:19:53,652 --> 01:19:54,572
Speaker 2: again not an insult.

1640
01:19:54,732 --> 01:19:56,732
Speaker 3: So that's another thank you? Right, what else you got?

1641
01:19:57,053 --> 01:19:57,452
Speaker 5: Okay?

1642
01:19:58,492 --> 01:20:00,612
Speaker 2: How would you like it if I abuse you? You moron?

1643
01:20:01,173 --> 01:20:02,973
Speaker 2: You can dish it out, but you cannot take it?

1644
01:20:03,572 --> 01:20:05,892
Speaker 2: Pathetic loser telling people not to be offended, sitting on

1645
01:20:05,933 --> 01:20:08,333
Speaker 2: your privileged pedestal, or there's a lot in this one,

1646
01:20:08,412 --> 01:20:10,213
Speaker 2: this is good. How would you like it if I

1647
01:20:10,253 --> 01:20:12,333
Speaker 2: abused you? You're moron? Well, you are abusing me by

1648
01:20:12,333 --> 01:20:14,812
Speaker 2: calling me a moron? So how would I like it?

1649
01:20:14,973 --> 01:20:18,013
Speaker 2: I shouldn't quite enjoying it. Strange, it's tackling me. You

1650
01:20:18,013 --> 01:20:20,253
Speaker 2: can dish it out, but you cannot take it. I

1651
01:20:20,253 --> 01:20:21,932
Speaker 2: don't know if I've been dishing out any of the insults.

1652
01:20:21,933 --> 01:20:24,612
Speaker 2: Have I no, No, not, I probably have, though I

1653
01:20:24,652 --> 01:20:27,612
Speaker 2: would I do. I sometimes go at text messages. I

1654
01:20:27,652 --> 01:20:30,093
Speaker 2: sometimes really have a go at people. So yeah, I

1655
01:20:30,133 --> 01:20:31,812
Speaker 2: can dish it out, but I believe I can take it.

1656
01:20:32,053 --> 01:20:34,572
Speaker 3: Why you've taken it first? Before you dish it out.

1657
01:20:34,612 --> 01:20:37,412
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you're a pathetic loser telling people not to

1658
01:20:37,412 --> 01:20:41,293
Speaker 2: be offended sitting on your privileged pedestal. I would push back,

1659
01:20:41,893 --> 01:20:44,372
Speaker 2: I'm being called a pathetic loser. I don't think that's true.

1660
01:20:44,372 --> 01:20:46,173
Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna be considered when I put that

1661
01:20:46,253 --> 01:20:50,772
Speaker 2: through the test of an insert insult. Is it true. No,

1662
01:20:50,812 --> 01:20:52,412
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm a pathetic loser. I think you're

1663
01:20:52,452 --> 01:20:53,172
Speaker 2: in the winner category.

1664
01:20:53,253 --> 01:20:53,412
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1665
01:20:54,412 --> 01:20:56,333
Speaker 2: I think I've done all right in life, and something's

1666
01:20:56,333 --> 01:20:58,612
Speaker 2: better than other. There's definitely some things I'm pathetic about.

1667
01:20:58,772 --> 01:20:58,972
Speaker 5: Yep.

1668
01:20:59,093 --> 01:21:03,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did a pathetic job. I really messed up. Anyway.

1669
01:21:03,612 --> 01:21:05,372
Speaker 2: There's some painting I did in the weekend. It was pathetic.

1670
01:21:05,412 --> 01:21:08,293
Speaker 2: So sometimes I am a pathetic loser. I don't want

1671
01:21:08,293 --> 01:21:09,892
Speaker 2: to get into the details, but it was a disaster

1672
01:21:10,333 --> 01:21:14,372
Speaker 2: painting of my house. I messed up. So pathetically los

1673
01:21:14,372 --> 01:21:16,013
Speaker 2: are telling people not to be offended, that's true. I

1674
01:21:16,053 --> 01:21:18,572
Speaker 2: am telling people not to offended sitting on your privileged pedesful.

1675
01:21:18,772 --> 01:21:21,413
Speaker 2: I would say, I do have a reasonably privileged pedestal.

1676
01:21:21,692 --> 01:21:23,012
Speaker 2: I think that's true. I'm not going to be offended

1677
01:21:23,053 --> 01:21:26,013
Speaker 2: by that. I think sitting in the studio ZB the

1678
01:21:26,053 --> 01:21:28,772
Speaker 2: biggest radio station in the country. Being allowed to say

1679
01:21:28,812 --> 01:21:30,732
Speaker 2: whatever I want into a microphone. That is a pretty

1680
01:21:30,732 --> 01:21:33,732
Speaker 2: privileged pedestal. So I'm not going to be insulted by

1681
01:21:33,812 --> 01:21:35,732
Speaker 2: any of that. Yeah that some of it's true, some

1682
01:21:35,812 --> 01:21:36,253
Speaker 2: of it's not.

1683
01:21:36,452 --> 01:21:39,412
Speaker 3: So that's a lot of thank you, some pretty heavy abuse,

1684
01:21:39,452 --> 01:21:41,692
Speaker 3: I've got to say. But that is nice to put

1685
01:21:41,692 --> 01:21:45,093
Speaker 3: that through the lens of the stoics popular philosophy.

1686
01:21:45,173 --> 01:21:49,652
Speaker 2: But it works. Yeah, very good. Yeah, So keep those,

1687
01:21:50,093 --> 01:21:54,173
Speaker 2: keep the abuse coming through, and I'll keep putting it

1688
01:21:54,173 --> 01:21:54,812
Speaker 2: through the lens.

1689
01:21:54,893 --> 01:21:57,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very good. Right, let's get it to this

1690
01:21:57,532 --> 01:21:59,492
Speaker 3: one because this is going to be a great chat.

1691
01:21:59,532 --> 01:22:01,452
Speaker 3: We want to talk about lawn tips. How do you

1692
01:22:01,492 --> 01:22:03,892
Speaker 3: get the best lawn? And we say this because it

1693
01:22:04,013 --> 01:22:05,572
Speaker 3: is kind of a key. We write a passage for

1694
01:22:05,572 --> 01:22:07,852
Speaker 3: a lot of people out there who go all in

1695
01:22:08,013 --> 01:22:10,213
Speaker 3: on the lawn and when I say go all in,

1696
01:22:10,572 --> 01:22:13,532
Speaker 3: it becomes their new life. They spend thousands of thousands

1697
01:22:13,572 --> 01:22:16,972
Speaker 3: of dollars, They talk to other lawn people, and spend

1698
01:22:17,013 --> 01:22:19,173
Speaker 3: hundreds of man hours just trying to get the perfect lawn.

1699
01:22:19,372 --> 01:22:22,452
Speaker 3: And this is something that you might be attempting at

1700
01:22:22,452 --> 01:22:22,772
Speaker 3: the moment.

1701
01:22:23,173 --> 01:22:26,932
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's like anything the more you get

1702
01:22:26,973 --> 01:22:29,812
Speaker 2: into it, the more there is to know. You know,

1703
01:22:30,532 --> 01:22:33,412
Speaker 2: the Dunner Kruger effect is big on lawns. Yeah, you know,

1704
01:22:33,452 --> 01:22:35,013
Speaker 2: you can if you don't know anything abou lawns, you'll

1705
01:22:35,013 --> 01:22:37,253
Speaker 2: just look at lawn and you'll go that looks fine

1706
01:22:37,333 --> 01:22:40,372
Speaker 2: when you start like my dad, who's a groundskeeper, when

1707
01:22:40,412 --> 01:22:43,972
Speaker 2: he looks at a lawn's a lawn, it's a disaster.

1708
01:22:44,053 --> 01:22:46,612
Speaker 2: I'm watching cricket with him, or any kind of sport,

1709
01:22:46,692 --> 01:22:48,852
Speaker 2: and you know, as much as he's talking about the sport,

1710
01:22:48,893 --> 01:22:52,333
Speaker 2: he's talking about the fairy rings in the field, or

1711
01:22:53,492 --> 01:22:57,093
Speaker 2: he knows so much about lawns that he can't really

1712
01:22:57,093 --> 01:22:59,333
Speaker 2: look at them. That's a heavy cross to beer. Yeah,

1713
01:22:59,492 --> 01:23:01,093
Speaker 2: so we really we just want to talk about lawns.

1714
01:23:01,133 --> 01:23:04,173
Speaker 2: Wait one hundred and eighty ten eighty tits for getting

1715
01:23:04,213 --> 01:23:07,532
Speaker 2: a good lawn in New Zealand at this time of

1716
01:23:07,612 --> 01:23:10,412
Speaker 2: year when it's getting hot, Because maybe I'm just using

1717
01:23:10,452 --> 01:23:13,253
Speaker 2: my privileged pedi stel to get some lawn tips on

1718
01:23:13,253 --> 01:23:14,133
Speaker 2: the lawn that I'm putting in.

1719
01:23:14,333 --> 01:23:16,293
Speaker 3: It's true, so you can't get offended by it.

1720
01:23:18,173 --> 01:23:23,612
Speaker 2: But tips for a good lawn and also let's get

1721
01:23:23,612 --> 01:23:26,213
Speaker 2: into it the elephant in the room. Yep, say it

1722
01:23:27,093 --> 01:23:29,892
Speaker 2: artificial versus real lawns mass effects? Is there any way

1723
01:23:29,933 --> 01:23:32,213
Speaker 2: that you can go artificial and it not lot tacky

1724
01:23:32,732 --> 01:23:38,052
Speaker 2: and rubbish? And can you go to far into lawns?

1725
01:23:38,173 --> 01:23:42,372
Speaker 2: Are you a lawn widow or widower? There are people

1726
01:23:42,452 --> 01:23:45,532
Speaker 2: and I've heard them. I've heard people complaining that they're

1727
01:23:45,772 --> 01:23:48,372
Speaker 2: they're partners, and let's be honest, it's mainly the male

1728
01:23:48,452 --> 01:23:51,652
Speaker 2: side of things. Yep, goes to lawn focused and spends

1729
01:23:51,692 --> 01:23:54,012
Speaker 2: so much at their time, they're down on their hands

1730
01:23:54,053 --> 01:23:58,452
Speaker 2: and knees, just pick individually pecking weeds out of a

1731
01:23:58,532 --> 01:24:03,892
Speaker 2: giant lawn like an orangutan picks, you know, knits out

1732
01:24:03,933 --> 01:24:04,732
Speaker 2: of its partners.

1733
01:24:04,772 --> 01:24:06,772
Speaker 3: Here, you know, lost to the lawn. Noh eight one

1734
01:24:06,812 --> 01:24:09,612
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty. The number to call the phone

1735
01:24:09,652 --> 01:24:12,572
Speaker 3: lines of let up on the text machine is smoking

1736
01:24:12,612 --> 01:24:14,173
Speaker 3: as well, but love to hear your thoughts. Nine two

1737
01:24:14,253 --> 01:24:17,053
Speaker 3: ninety two is that number? It is fourteen.

1738
01:24:16,732 --> 01:24:19,932
Speaker 2: Past three, gis talk sibby seventeen past three.

1739
01:24:19,933 --> 01:24:22,772
Speaker 3: We're talking about lawn tips and how much you've invested

1740
01:24:22,812 --> 01:24:25,012
Speaker 3: in getting the perfect lawn at your place and also

1741
01:24:25,213 --> 01:24:26,213
Speaker 3: artificial turf.

1742
01:24:26,732 --> 01:24:29,092
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you get just go artificial because when you're

1743
01:24:29,692 --> 01:24:32,333
Speaker 2: you know, like embarking on a lawn journey, and you

1744
01:24:32,372 --> 01:24:33,973
Speaker 2: look at it and you've you know, you've tilled the

1745
01:24:33,973 --> 01:24:36,173
Speaker 2: earth and you've just got a big expense of dirty

1746
01:24:36,692 --> 01:24:39,133
Speaker 2: or you know, in my backyard there's sort of a

1747
01:24:39,253 --> 01:24:41,372
Speaker 2: medium sized expensive dirt whatever. You look at it and

1748
01:24:41,452 --> 01:24:45,133
Speaker 2: you go, well, could just artificially do this? Yeah, just

1749
01:24:45,133 --> 01:24:47,572
Speaker 2: get some tiger turf down. This is a good laun to.

1750
01:24:47,732 --> 01:24:49,652
Speaker 2: If you get a ball patch on your lawn, grow

1751
01:24:49,692 --> 01:24:52,892
Speaker 2: the grass next to it longer. Then rake the length

1752
01:24:52,973 --> 01:24:55,652
Speaker 2: across the ball patch. Just watch out for windy days

1753
01:24:55,652 --> 01:24:58,372
Speaker 2: if it starts to blow the long grass up. A

1754
01:24:58,452 --> 01:25:01,412
Speaker 2: lawn combover. Yeah, that would look good. Kerrie we Hal

1755
01:25:01,412 --> 01:25:02,172
Speaker 2: from the show.

1756
01:25:03,093 --> 01:25:04,293
Speaker 5: Twilight, How are you?

1757
01:25:04,732 --> 01:25:06,572
Speaker 2: That was? That was Maddie mate, But I'm more goods?

1758
01:25:06,572 --> 01:25:07,933
Speaker 2: How are you?

1759
01:25:07,933 --> 01:25:08,093
Speaker 11: No?

1760
01:25:08,452 --> 01:25:08,692
Speaker 20: Oh?

1761
01:25:08,772 --> 01:25:09,092
Speaker 5: Sorry?

1762
01:25:09,732 --> 01:25:13,093
Speaker 11: Just before I start on lawns, Matt, I really do

1763
01:25:13,173 --> 01:25:15,093
Speaker 11: think that you need to have a cup of tea

1764
01:25:15,133 --> 01:25:17,612
Speaker 11: and put some concrete concrete in it.

1765
01:25:18,612 --> 01:25:21,372
Speaker 2: Anyway, how come, why would I have a cup of

1766
01:25:21,412 --> 01:25:23,093
Speaker 2: tea and put some concrete?

1767
01:25:23,333 --> 01:25:25,492
Speaker 11: No, I reckon, you just need a hard enough. People

1768
01:25:25,532 --> 01:25:27,732
Speaker 11: may be horrible things because they're having bad days.

1769
01:25:27,893 --> 01:25:31,652
Speaker 2: Well, hang on minute. Have you been listening to the show. Yeah, well,

1770
01:25:31,652 --> 01:25:35,213
Speaker 2: then I think you've missed one hundred percent missed what

1771
01:25:35,253 --> 01:25:35,852
Speaker 2: I was saying.

1772
01:25:36,732 --> 01:25:38,572
Speaker 11: No, I don't think so anyway, No, No, you have

1773
01:25:38,652 --> 01:25:38,892
Speaker 11: you have?

1774
01:25:39,013 --> 01:25:40,692
Speaker 2: So what do you think I was saying, Kerrie?

1775
01:25:41,532 --> 01:25:44,973
Speaker 11: No, I just think you you you've actually taken it

1776
01:25:45,013 --> 01:25:46,852
Speaker 11: the wrong way, because I'm just saying to you, you

1777
01:25:47,013 --> 01:25:50,532
Speaker 11: just need to take it on the chin. Move on me. Yeah.

1778
01:25:50,652 --> 01:25:52,492
Speaker 2: No, but I think what what I'm saying is that

1779
01:25:52,532 --> 01:25:55,173
Speaker 2: you've heard exactly the opposite, because that is exactly what

1780
01:25:55,213 --> 01:25:58,532
Speaker 2: I was saying. And I was having a laugh with

1781
01:25:58,572 --> 01:26:02,652
Speaker 2: some insults which I thought were pretty funny. So you know,

1782
01:26:02,853 --> 01:26:04,612
Speaker 2: I don't know, like i'd love a cup of tea,

1783
01:26:04,652 --> 01:26:06,333
Speaker 2: but I don't know if I'm the person that needs

1784
01:26:06,372 --> 01:26:08,372
Speaker 2: to have the concrete and the tea there.

1785
01:26:08,372 --> 01:26:14,812
Speaker 11: You carry anyway. Lawns artificial, No, Tyler, I think you

1786
01:26:14,893 --> 01:26:16,492
Speaker 11: know that this is what I do for a living.

1787
01:26:17,772 --> 01:26:21,333
Speaker 11: I if I can't fix the one, will I renovate it.

1788
01:26:22,612 --> 01:26:26,892
Speaker 11: If there's more weeds than grass, well then I kill

1789
01:26:26,933 --> 01:26:31,053
Speaker 11: it all and renovate it. And but the key is

1790
01:26:31,133 --> 01:26:33,972
Speaker 11: the soil. You've got to have really really good lawn

1791
01:26:33,973 --> 01:26:36,612
Speaker 11: mirk soil. If you don't, you're wasting your time and

1792
01:26:36,652 --> 01:26:38,013
Speaker 11: you're wasting your money.

1793
01:26:38,253 --> 01:26:40,572
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, there's pretty good soil up here in Auckland.

1794
01:26:40,572 --> 01:26:42,812
Speaker 3: I think Carrie very bad of clay.

1795
01:26:44,013 --> 01:26:45,972
Speaker 11: Very no. No, no, you don't use clay.

1796
01:26:46,133 --> 01:26:48,612
Speaker 2: Okay, no clay. You just concrete the whole thing, don't

1797
01:26:48,652 --> 01:26:49,092
Speaker 2: you carry?

1798
01:26:49,293 --> 01:26:49,412
Speaker 5: Like?

1799
01:26:50,013 --> 01:26:53,653
Speaker 2: No, no, you don't have to mow concrete.

1800
01:26:54,612 --> 01:26:57,812
Speaker 11: No, well that's up. Well your I thought you said

1801
01:26:57,812 --> 01:26:58,692
Speaker 11: that you want a nice.

1802
01:26:58,532 --> 01:27:00,612
Speaker 2: Lawn concrete and paint a green carry.

1803
01:27:02,412 --> 01:27:04,933
Speaker 3: Something to be said for artificial birthday, Carrey. Like, I

1804
01:27:04,973 --> 01:27:06,293
Speaker 3: know there's a lot of haters out there, and I

1805
01:27:06,372 --> 01:27:09,093
Speaker 3: used to be. But there's some pretty fancy artificial turf

1806
01:27:09,093 --> 01:27:09,452
Speaker 3: you can get.

1807
01:27:09,492 --> 01:27:11,093
Speaker 2: Now. Can you tell? Is there any turf that you

1808
01:27:11,093 --> 01:27:13,973
Speaker 2: can't tell the difference that you would? How quickly can

1809
01:27:14,013 --> 01:27:16,492
Speaker 2: you tell if it's artificial, even the most expensive.

1810
01:27:16,093 --> 01:27:20,013
Speaker 11: Artificial stuff, straight away? Straight away? And the other thing

1811
01:27:20,093 --> 01:27:22,372
Speaker 11: is that before I even get to it, if I

1812
01:27:22,412 --> 01:27:24,692
Speaker 11: see it when I'm driving past, I know what type

1813
01:27:24,732 --> 01:27:25,732
Speaker 11: of grass it does as well.

1814
01:27:26,933 --> 01:27:29,132
Speaker 3: Are you talking the artificial or real grass?

1815
01:27:29,372 --> 01:27:36,253
Speaker 11: No? Real grass that I can tell? Whether it's tall fissue? Fine? Fine,

1816
01:27:36,372 --> 01:27:40,492
Speaker 11: kai ku, Yeah you know I can tell whatever it is.

1817
01:27:40,572 --> 01:27:43,692
Speaker 11: But the key is like, like, I do monthly treatments,

1818
01:27:43,732 --> 01:27:46,253
Speaker 11: So I go around monthly. I've got about thirty clients.

1819
01:27:46,652 --> 01:27:50,012
Speaker 11: I go around monthly, and I take all the weeds out. Actually,

1820
01:27:50,053 --> 01:27:53,052
Speaker 11: you like, he isn't killing the grass. I use chemicals

1821
01:27:53,053 --> 01:27:53,253
Speaker 11: to that.

1822
01:27:54,333 --> 01:27:55,692
Speaker 2: Do you use weed and feed?

1823
01:27:57,133 --> 01:27:57,333
Speaker 5: No?

1824
01:27:57,853 --> 01:27:58,892
Speaker 7: I use weed and feed.

1825
01:27:59,173 --> 01:28:01,892
Speaker 11: No it doesn't work. No, it doesn't work.

1826
01:28:01,973 --> 01:28:09,012
Speaker 3: Sounds like, okay, Yates. What's the actual product from Yates?

1827
01:28:09,692 --> 01:28:12,532
Speaker 11: You don't know. You don't buy that weed and feed.

1828
01:28:12,812 --> 01:28:13,732
Speaker 11: You don't buy it.

1829
01:28:13,772 --> 01:28:14,452
Speaker 2: You don't buy it.

1830
01:28:14,532 --> 01:28:17,732
Speaker 11: Okay, No, it doesn't work. Seventy dollars. You can employ me,

1831
01:28:18,333 --> 01:28:20,253
Speaker 11: came run and look after it for you for a month,

1832
01:28:20,293 --> 01:28:21,972
Speaker 11: and I'll charge you seventy five dollars.

1833
01:28:22,093 --> 01:28:24,173
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. Hey, carry where do you operate from?

1834
01:28:24,372 --> 01:28:28,732
Speaker 2: Where are you? What's the best one? What's the best

1835
01:28:28,933 --> 01:28:32,172
Speaker 2: grass to use in Auckland? Because you're talking about cocoia.

1836
01:28:32,452 --> 01:28:34,692
Speaker 2: That that's the stuff with the really long wheat, the

1837
01:28:34,772 --> 01:28:36,213
Speaker 2: long roots.

1838
01:28:36,293 --> 01:28:39,372
Speaker 11: Right, Yeah, it's stolon. It's called a stolon grass, which

1839
01:28:39,372 --> 01:28:41,812
Speaker 11: means it doesn't bury its roots in the ground. It's

1840
01:28:41,853 --> 01:28:44,852
Speaker 11: a creeper. But the best, the best, best grass that

1841
01:28:44,893 --> 01:28:47,732
Speaker 11: I've just found that I've actually put into my last

1842
01:28:47,772 --> 01:28:51,172
Speaker 11: three jobs that I've done is a stadium rye grass.

1843
01:28:51,213 --> 01:28:57,452
Speaker 11: It is absolutely beautiful, light light green during the winter. Yeah,

1844
01:28:57,532 --> 01:29:02,412
Speaker 11: and during the winter. You can get it from Newton

1845
01:29:02,492 --> 01:29:06,412
Speaker 11: Seeds in Auckland or you can ring up me.

1846
01:29:07,412 --> 01:29:10,572
Speaker 2: Now, Kerrie, if you want to change the the you know,

1847
01:29:10,652 --> 01:29:13,532
Speaker 2: the species of grass you've got on your lawn, do

1848
01:29:13,652 --> 01:29:14,933
Speaker 2: you have to just do you have to do you

1849
01:29:15,053 --> 01:29:17,412
Speaker 2: just have to till it all up and start again?

1850
01:29:17,933 --> 01:29:20,133
Speaker 2: Or can you what you want to?

1851
01:29:20,452 --> 01:29:22,333
Speaker 11: It depends what you want to change it too, and

1852
01:29:22,333 --> 01:29:26,772
Speaker 11: what you've got. M so you so so the sounds

1853
01:29:26,812 --> 01:29:29,013
Speaker 11: of things is that you've got that you don't have

1854
01:29:29,093 --> 01:29:30,852
Speaker 11: kai kuya and you want kaiku.

1855
01:29:32,133 --> 01:29:32,213
Speaker 4: No.

1856
01:29:32,532 --> 01:29:34,532
Speaker 2: I don't like it because when you when you I

1857
01:29:34,572 --> 01:29:36,492
Speaker 2: was just yanking some up because I'm doing my lawns

1858
01:29:36,492 --> 01:29:38,812
Speaker 2: at the moment, and I was like, I've always it

1859
01:29:38,853 --> 01:29:42,532
Speaker 2: always always annoyed me, how it how far the roots

1860
01:29:42,532 --> 01:29:44,333
Speaker 2: go and all that kind of stuff. It's it's it's

1861
01:29:44,452 --> 01:29:47,372
Speaker 2: it's it's a sturdy it's a sturdy it's a sturdy grass,

1862
01:29:47,412 --> 01:29:50,013
Speaker 2: but it's a kind of kind of a kind of

1863
01:29:50,013 --> 01:29:52,492
Speaker 2: a weedy grass. It's kind of like the yacker of grasses.

1864
01:29:53,812 --> 01:29:55,612
Speaker 11: The good thing about it is that you don't have

1865
01:29:55,692 --> 01:29:57,532
Speaker 11: to water it, and the good thing about it and

1866
01:29:57,572 --> 01:29:59,492
Speaker 11: the worst thing about it is during the summer you've

1867
01:29:59,492 --> 01:30:01,452
Speaker 11: got to mow it at least once a week yep

1868
01:30:01,772 --> 01:30:05,652
Speaker 11: or once a fortnight. Otherwise it just takes off. And

1869
01:30:05,692 --> 01:30:07,932
Speaker 11: if you're mowing it once a month, it just gets

1870
01:30:07,973 --> 01:30:09,652
Speaker 11: harder and harder and harder.

1871
01:30:09,772 --> 01:30:13,013
Speaker 2: Okay, sow, Kirie. How would people get hold of you?

1872
01:30:13,053 --> 01:30:15,492
Speaker 2: Just just what I remember to ask if they wanted

1873
01:30:15,492 --> 01:30:18,612
Speaker 2: to get your expertise in the Auckland area lawn care.

1874
01:30:19,293 --> 01:30:21,813
Speaker 11: I look after prestige, long cares.

1875
01:30:22,933 --> 01:30:28,732
Speaker 2: Prestige lawn care. Okay, prestige, Yeah, prestige, prestige worldwide. Nice

1876
01:30:28,772 --> 01:30:30,253
Speaker 2: do you do huges as well, Kirie?

1877
01:30:31,572 --> 01:30:34,652
Speaker 3: No, just lawns Okay, all right, fair enough, good to me,

1878
01:30:34,732 --> 01:30:35,213
Speaker 3: but thank you.

1879
01:30:35,452 --> 01:30:38,732
Speaker 2: And that was stadium. Thank you, Kirie, cheers Kerrie.

1880
01:30:39,213 --> 01:30:44,652
Speaker 3: So after all that, no to Kakoya and stadium, rye,

1881
01:30:45,093 --> 01:30:48,012
Speaker 3: and maybe just lay some concrete down, make your life easier.

1882
01:30:50,412 --> 01:30:52,372
Speaker 2: I had some neighbors once they just came in and

1883
01:30:52,412 --> 01:30:55,612
Speaker 2: concreted their whole lorn. It was it was such an

1884
01:30:55,612 --> 01:30:58,492
Speaker 2: aggressive move. But it just had enough and did a

1885
01:30:58,532 --> 01:31:00,412
Speaker 2: bugger this. I'm just gonna They bought the house and

1886
01:31:00,412 --> 01:31:04,852
Speaker 2: they corporated the lawns front and back, and then they

1887
01:31:04,893 --> 01:31:07,932
Speaker 2: painted the front one green. I was like, that's you're

1888
01:31:07,973 --> 01:31:08,772
Speaker 2: not full of anyway.

1889
01:31:08,973 --> 01:31:11,173
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty T and eighty is the number

1890
01:31:11,213 --> 01:31:13,173
Speaker 3: to call if you're into your lawn. Love to hear

1891
01:31:13,213 --> 01:31:14,652
Speaker 3: from you. What are your tips to have in the

1892
01:31:14,652 --> 01:31:17,572
Speaker 3: perfect lawn? In nine two ninety two is the text

1893
01:31:17,612 --> 01:31:25,173
Speaker 3: number back of them? Oh twenty four past three.

1894
01:31:23,372 --> 01:31:27,052
Speaker 1: Matt Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1895
01:31:27,093 --> 01:31:29,893
Speaker 1: ten eighty on us talk ZV twenty.

1896
01:31:29,572 --> 01:31:32,492
Speaker 3: Seven past three. We have asked for your lawn tips

1897
01:31:32,492 --> 01:31:34,133
Speaker 3: on our eight hundred eighty T and eighty. How do

1898
01:31:34,173 --> 01:31:35,092
Speaker 3: you get the perfect lawn?

1899
01:31:35,213 --> 01:31:39,173
Speaker 2: Someone's asking a very important question here. How do you

1900
01:31:39,213 --> 01:31:42,093
Speaker 2: deal with dog wee patches on lawns? Yeah?

1901
01:31:42,173 --> 01:31:44,092
Speaker 3: I mean I always say, and why does some dogs?

1902
01:31:44,213 --> 01:31:48,133
Speaker 2: Because my dog Colin no we patches, but some something

1903
01:31:48,173 --> 01:31:50,732
Speaker 2: You go around to some people's house and that they've

1904
01:31:50,732 --> 01:31:52,052
Speaker 2: just got wee patches all over the lawn.

1905
01:31:52,093 --> 01:31:53,652
Speaker 3: You know, you get those little rocks that you can

1906
01:31:53,652 --> 01:31:56,292
Speaker 3: buy that you put on the dog's water, and apparently

1907
01:31:56,293 --> 01:31:58,053
Speaker 3: that's meant to stop grass.

1908
01:31:57,772 --> 01:32:02,692
Speaker 2: Boon that wrecks the bollocks. To me, what's colin secret?

1909
01:32:02,772 --> 01:32:04,013
Speaker 3: I need to get them around to have words to

1910
01:32:04,053 --> 01:32:06,093
Speaker 3: Pepper and superior genetics.

1911
01:32:06,372 --> 01:32:07,852
Speaker 2: This is one thing you can't say about my dog.

1912
01:32:07,893 --> 01:32:10,132
Speaker 3: Colin is terrible to next he's very handsome though.

1913
01:32:09,933 --> 01:32:13,892
Speaker 2: But what about those people I still can't believe this

1914
01:32:13,893 --> 01:32:17,372
Speaker 2: happens that are putting, you know, one point five liter

1915
01:32:17,372 --> 01:32:21,932
Speaker 2: plastic bottles on their lawns to stop dogs. Wean Yeah, yeah, Vaughn,

1916
01:32:22,013 --> 01:32:22,492
Speaker 2: how are you?

1917
01:32:23,492 --> 01:32:23,932
Speaker 21: I'm good?

1918
01:32:23,973 --> 01:32:24,333
Speaker 12: Thanks?

1919
01:32:25,293 --> 01:32:28,772
Speaker 21: The dog weieing. It's the female dog, not the male

1920
01:32:28,893 --> 01:32:30,092
Speaker 21: that leaves the patches.

1921
01:32:30,372 --> 01:32:33,852
Speaker 3: Ah, that would explain it. So I need to get

1922
01:32:33,933 --> 01:32:35,253
Speaker 3: rid of paper and get a male dog.

1923
01:32:36,732 --> 01:32:37,333
Speaker 2: I'm joking.

1924
01:32:37,532 --> 01:32:40,053
Speaker 3: She shall go anywhere, right.

1925
01:32:40,253 --> 01:32:45,492
Speaker 21: So I've had the proper lawn and struggle to I'm

1926
01:32:45,532 --> 01:32:49,253
Speaker 21: in papate Moa so over the summer, couldn't keep up

1927
01:32:49,253 --> 01:32:53,093
Speaker 21: with the watering. It looks scungy. So then I put

1928
01:32:53,093 --> 01:32:56,812
Speaker 21: an ready lawn and again couldn't keep up with the

1929
01:32:56,812 --> 01:33:01,053
Speaker 21: weeds the watering. So now I've gone to artificial and

1930
01:33:01,372 --> 01:33:05,653
Speaker 21: love it. So I'm talking about the backyard with the patters.

1931
01:33:05,692 --> 01:33:07,012
Speaker 21: I don't care about the front.

1932
01:33:08,412 --> 01:33:12,133
Speaker 2: Does it doesn't get too hot whereabouts you look on

1933
01:33:12,893 --> 01:33:16,012
Speaker 2: Papa Moa, so you can all year around you can

1934
01:33:16,173 --> 01:33:18,053
Speaker 2: walk on that artificial grass. Because a bunch of people

1935
01:33:18,053 --> 01:33:20,253
Speaker 2: are texting and saying the problem with artificial grass is

1936
01:33:20,492 --> 01:33:21,652
Speaker 2: in summer it gets too hot.

1937
01:33:21,973 --> 01:33:24,532
Speaker 21: Yeah, I don't. I don't really, I don't really use

1938
01:33:24,572 --> 01:33:28,012
Speaker 21: bare feet. I'm normally in jandles so but it's it's

1939
01:33:28,053 --> 01:33:31,812
Speaker 21: beautiful to walk on, beautiful to sit on. And with

1940
01:33:31,973 --> 01:33:36,053
Speaker 21: the samples. Now my mind's got flex of brown in

1941
01:33:36,133 --> 01:33:39,652
Speaker 21: it because no lawn is green green, so it looks

1942
01:33:39,732 --> 01:33:43,053
Speaker 21: quite real, and you get the odd weed, but it

1943
01:33:43,253 --> 01:33:45,133
Speaker 21: just put you from the wind and the birds. But

1944
01:33:45,173 --> 01:33:46,492
Speaker 21: the weeds just pull out.

1945
01:33:47,213 --> 01:33:50,532
Speaker 3: What about with the doggie? Do you allow the doggie

1946
01:33:50,492 --> 01:33:53,892
Speaker 3: to go out on the artificial teth I don't.

1947
01:33:54,293 --> 01:33:58,133
Speaker 21: I don't have a dog. But again, with a dog,

1948
01:33:58,893 --> 01:34:00,932
Speaker 21: if it's say it was poos, you would just pick

1949
01:34:00,973 --> 01:34:02,372
Speaker 21: it up and then just hose it.

1950
01:34:03,013 --> 01:34:06,173
Speaker 3: Right, So it allows the water through, does it?

1951
01:34:06,173 --> 01:34:07,093
Speaker 2: I imagine it will has to.

1952
01:34:08,093 --> 01:34:08,333
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1953
01:34:08,412 --> 01:34:13,293
Speaker 21: Yeah, it's like it's like a like a netting underneath it.

1954
01:34:14,333 --> 01:34:16,412
Speaker 3: And what what's the top of what is it called,

1955
01:34:16,412 --> 01:34:18,852
Speaker 3: Did you say smart grass or one of the other ones.

1956
01:34:19,692 --> 01:34:23,892
Speaker 21: No, it's artificial. So I've had the ready lawn, which

1957
01:34:23,973 --> 01:34:26,572
Speaker 21: was real grass like in the carpet, and they lay

1958
01:34:26,612 --> 01:34:28,092
Speaker 21: it but that didn't work.

1959
01:34:29,333 --> 01:34:29,532
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1960
01:34:30,293 --> 01:34:34,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh well, congratulations, she's living the artificial grass dream. Yeah,

1961
01:34:34,853 --> 01:34:36,692
Speaker 2: a seat. But to see your face is curling up

1962
01:34:36,692 --> 01:34:38,253
Speaker 2: at the thought of it, Tyler, you think it's an

1963
01:34:38,293 --> 01:34:41,652
Speaker 2: abomination on the planet. You think it's like Frankenstein. Do

1964
01:34:41,692 --> 01:34:43,253
Speaker 2: you think it's playing god with your lawn?

1965
01:34:43,572 --> 01:34:46,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right, nicely said. There's plenty of techs

1966
01:34:46,853 --> 01:34:50,372
Speaker 3: Kevinster on nine two nine two, and also taking your

1967
01:34:50,372 --> 01:34:52,772
Speaker 3: calls on oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty the sixes.

1968
01:34:52,812 --> 01:34:56,333
Speaker 2: It's definitely not just the female dogs. I have a

1969
01:34:56,372 --> 01:34:59,132
Speaker 2: male dog and he weigh it, weighs on the wheeze

1970
01:34:59,133 --> 01:35:00,972
Speaker 2: on the grass and leaves terrible patches.

1971
01:35:01,412 --> 01:35:01,612
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1972
01:35:01,652 --> 01:35:04,613
Speaker 2: So the thing is it's the the nitrogen high nitrogen

1973
01:35:04,853 --> 01:35:08,492
Speaker 2: content of the dog urine. It's apparently due to to

1974
01:35:09,213 --> 01:35:12,173
Speaker 2: the high protein that you know, their meat eaters, they've

1975
01:35:12,173 --> 01:35:16,173
Speaker 2: got a high protein diet. So, but it is it

1976
01:35:17,532 --> 01:35:19,692
Speaker 2: is female dogs and puppies do it more, but some

1977
01:35:19,772 --> 01:35:25,612
Speaker 2: male puppies do like generally female dogs and puppies make worse.

1978
01:35:26,973 --> 01:35:29,812
Speaker 2: You know, dog your own burns. Yep, but all dogs

1979
01:35:29,853 --> 01:35:30,972
Speaker 2: can do it. There you go.

1980
01:35:31,572 --> 01:35:34,133
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1981
01:35:34,173 --> 01:35:34,972
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good one.

1982
01:35:35,053 --> 01:35:36,973
Speaker 2: Is that true? The one point five liter bottles on

1983
01:35:36,973 --> 01:35:38,972
Speaker 2: the lawn was an April fool's joke. To this day

1984
01:35:38,973 --> 01:35:41,133
Speaker 2: it persists. It's hilarious that people still do it. My

1985
01:35:41,213 --> 01:35:43,333
Speaker 2: dad used to do it, and I know many people

1986
01:35:43,333 --> 01:35:45,772
Speaker 2: who used to. It's hilarious. There's there's a house near

1987
01:35:45,812 --> 01:35:48,772
Speaker 2: my house and they've got so many they've got about

1988
01:35:49,412 --> 01:35:53,892
Speaker 2: they've got about fifty one point five liter plastic bottles

1989
01:35:53,893 --> 01:35:56,532
Speaker 2: full of water like coke bottles and stuff, and it's like,

1990
01:35:56,732 --> 01:36:01,372
Speaker 2: we better have the dog burns on the lawn. Then

1991
01:36:01,532 --> 01:36:04,293
Speaker 2: all these part it looks like rabbits. It's like recycling

1992
01:36:04,333 --> 01:36:06,892
Speaker 2: bins falling over. They're crazy. Just let the dogs turn

1993
01:36:06,933 --> 01:36:07,213
Speaker 2: it up.

1994
01:36:07,293 --> 01:36:09,892
Speaker 3: Headlines with wind coming up, and then we've taken more

1995
01:36:09,893 --> 01:36:11,492
Speaker 3: of your calls on O one hundred and eighty ten.

1996
01:36:11,333 --> 01:36:16,412
Speaker 8: Eighty News talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis,

1997
01:36:16,452 --> 01:36:19,692
Speaker 8: it's no trouble with a blue bubble. New polling suggests

1998
01:36:19,732 --> 01:36:23,652
Speaker 8: more people support and inflation adjusted capital gains tax rather

1999
01:36:23,692 --> 01:36:27,373
Speaker 8: than the nominal tax labours proposing in its election pledge.

2000
01:36:27,732 --> 01:36:30,933
Speaker 8: The government's announced home warranties will become mandatory for a

2001
01:36:31,013 --> 01:36:34,333
Speaker 8: new build three stories in under and Reno's more worth

2002
01:36:34,372 --> 01:36:38,212
Speaker 8: more than one hundred thousand dollars. Disciplinary penalties would increase

2003
01:36:38,253 --> 01:36:42,293
Speaker 8: and designers will be required to have indemnity insurance. An

2004
01:36:42,333 --> 01:36:45,372
Speaker 8: owner of a burn pile is not being charged over

2005
01:36:45,492 --> 01:36:49,092
Speaker 8: large fires in cai Coda last month that destroyed homes

2006
01:36:49,452 --> 01:36:53,213
Speaker 8: because it was an open fire season. A person's been

2007
01:36:53,293 --> 01:36:56,652
Speaker 8: seriously injured at work and all Portucky an eastern bay

2008
01:36:56,692 --> 01:37:01,092
Speaker 8: of Plenty on Wyaweka Road. Police have found a body

2009
01:37:01,093 --> 01:37:04,092
Speaker 8: in dense bush near poki Koi, believed to be missing

2010
01:37:04,093 --> 01:37:07,972
Speaker 8: twenty five year old t Anahana Pormanna, who hasn't been

2011
01:37:08,013 --> 01:37:11,452
Speaker 8: seen since August. In New Zealand says it's doing all

2012
01:37:11,492 --> 01:37:15,133
Speaker 8: it can to avoid cabin crew striking over pay negotiations

2013
01:37:15,173 --> 01:37:18,253
Speaker 8: on December eighth, and we'll talk with unions this week.

2014
01:37:18,853 --> 01:37:21,652
Speaker 8: Variable speed limits are being introduced to state highways near

2015
01:37:21,692 --> 01:37:25,012
Speaker 8: schools in Northland and North Auckland, adding to changes applied

2016
01:37:25,053 --> 01:37:29,133
Speaker 8: in Coramandel since August plus the biggest relationship mistakes people

2017
01:37:29,173 --> 01:37:31,572
Speaker 8: make over Christmas and how to avoid them. Read more

2018
01:37:31,572 --> 01:37:34,452
Speaker 8: at ends at Herald Premium. Now back to Matt and Tyler.

2019
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2061
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Speaker 3: That'd be and back to our discussion about lawns and

2063
01:39:31,133 --> 01:39:33,532
Speaker 3: your lawn tips. If you've gone all in on your lawn,

2064
01:39:33,532 --> 01:39:34,852
Speaker 3: how did you get the perfect lawn.

2065
01:39:35,253 --> 01:39:38,133
Speaker 2: Each time you cut your lawn, says this text, you

2066
01:39:38,173 --> 01:39:40,532
Speaker 2: should cut it in a different direction. Think of it

2067
01:39:40,572 --> 01:39:43,612
Speaker 2: like a clock. Cut it twelve to six, one week,

2068
01:39:43,812 --> 01:39:46,972
Speaker 2: three to nine, the next two to eight, four to ten.

2069
01:39:47,492 --> 01:39:49,293
Speaker 3: Why's that I'm just getting my head around there.

2070
01:39:49,333 --> 01:39:51,412
Speaker 2: That would just because I do the same lines over

2071
01:39:51,412 --> 01:39:52,732
Speaker 2: and over again. Yeah, you've got to.

2072
01:39:52,732 --> 01:39:55,612
Speaker 3: Start from the outside and go around, not like a clock,

2073
01:39:55,933 --> 01:39:58,932
Speaker 3: like a maze, as you going closer to the middle.

2074
01:39:59,333 --> 01:40:01,972
Speaker 3: To you sure that you don't go line by lot. Well,

2075
01:40:02,053 --> 01:40:03,972
Speaker 3: if you see my lawn. If I go line by.

2076
01:40:03,893 --> 01:40:07,532
Speaker 2: Line, your lawn's on a ninety degree angle. It's basically

2077
01:40:07,532 --> 01:40:11,093
Speaker 2: mountain climbing. You have to get crampons on to mow

2078
01:40:11,093 --> 01:40:11,492
Speaker 2: your lawn.

2079
01:40:11,572 --> 01:40:13,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't even have a law moro. Just get

2080
01:40:13,492 --> 01:40:15,093
Speaker 3: the weed worker out there and just go hard.

2081
01:40:15,333 --> 01:40:18,052
Speaker 2: Just killed a lot of it. It's triggering your lawn.

2082
01:40:18,692 --> 01:40:20,972
Speaker 2: But no, hang on a minute. I've always mowned the lawn,

2083
01:40:21,013 --> 01:40:24,532
Speaker 2: and my dad forced me to my about two acres

2084
01:40:24,572 --> 01:40:27,492
Speaker 2: of lawn at the farm when I was growing up.

2085
01:40:27,732 --> 01:40:29,692
Speaker 2: I've always just gone on lines back and forth.

2086
01:40:29,732 --> 01:40:31,452
Speaker 3: It's a line, and then do you go a little

2087
01:40:31,452 --> 01:40:34,732
Speaker 3: bit shorter on one line so you go yeah, yeah,

2088
01:40:34,772 --> 01:40:36,572
Speaker 3: So you cut it down for the second line and

2089
01:40:36,652 --> 01:40:39,213
Speaker 3: then boost it back up so you get that beautiful pitch.

2090
01:40:39,093 --> 01:40:41,412
Speaker 2: Ye, and then you get a bunch of cabbage tree

2091
01:40:41,452 --> 01:40:43,213
Speaker 2: leaves right around the moor, and then you have to

2092
01:40:43,213 --> 01:40:45,293
Speaker 2: cut them off with a knife, and you go again.

2093
01:40:45,372 --> 01:40:48,052
Speaker 2: And then at dinner time your dad goes, I see

2094
01:40:48,053 --> 01:40:50,692
Speaker 2: you mow the lawn. I don't like what you did

2095
01:40:50,732 --> 01:40:56,893
Speaker 2: with the vergers every time. Every time, Matthew, welcome to

2096
01:40:56,933 --> 01:40:57,372
Speaker 2: the show.

2097
01:40:58,692 --> 01:41:02,572
Speaker 6: Gooday, guys, I've gotten rid of all my lawn. I've

2098
01:41:02,612 --> 01:41:04,093
Speaker 6: put in the pud and green out the back.

2099
01:41:05,053 --> 01:41:09,013
Speaker 2: But hanging a minute, oh wow, okay.

2100
01:41:08,612 --> 01:41:11,293
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we we we built on that. We put

2101
01:41:11,333 --> 01:41:14,293
Speaker 6: a sleepout on and I got there was a patch

2102
01:41:14,333 --> 01:41:18,333
Speaker 6: about maybe fifteen meters by seven and I've just put

2103
01:41:18,333 --> 01:41:21,452
Speaker 6: a put a green down with you know, three or

2104
01:41:21,452 --> 01:41:24,333
Speaker 6: four holes in there and borrow like it's not a

2105
01:41:24,372 --> 01:41:27,053
Speaker 6: flat like, it's a putting green. It's got yeah, give

2106
01:41:27,093 --> 01:41:27,812
Speaker 6: and take in it.

2107
01:41:28,213 --> 01:41:29,572
Speaker 2: You got them out of the front. You've got a

2108
01:41:29,572 --> 01:41:31,253
Speaker 2: bit of a lot of rough in there so you

2109
01:41:31,293 --> 01:41:34,372
Speaker 2: can play well.

2110
01:41:34,652 --> 01:41:37,732
Speaker 6: And all the edges I've put stone chip I've boardered

2111
01:41:37,772 --> 01:41:40,572
Speaker 6: and put little stone chips, so I can put carpet

2112
01:41:40,612 --> 01:41:43,213
Speaker 6: on that and just chip off that nice. And the

2113
01:41:43,213 --> 01:41:45,173
Speaker 6: front I've got rid of all the grass in the

2114
01:41:45,213 --> 01:41:48,652
Speaker 6: front and raised guard beds and put the greenhouse out

2115
01:41:48,652 --> 01:41:50,612
Speaker 6: there because it's not facing I.

2116
01:41:50,572 --> 01:41:54,253
Speaker 2: Was thinking about sitting up like a tee on my

2117
01:41:54,372 --> 01:41:57,053
Speaker 2: roof and then just a little hole in the back

2118
01:41:57,213 --> 01:41:59,133
Speaker 2: garden that would be you have to climb in your roof.

2119
01:42:00,053 --> 01:42:00,652
Speaker 6: You could do that.

2120
01:42:00,812 --> 01:42:02,133
Speaker 2: It's dangerous for the name to.

2121
01:42:02,293 --> 01:42:02,972
Speaker 10: The green is good.

2122
01:42:03,053 --> 01:42:05,573
Speaker 6: It worked out to be about the same as artificial.

2123
01:42:06,053 --> 01:42:08,013
Speaker 6: But yeah, I get so much more use out of

2124
01:42:08,013 --> 01:42:11,652
Speaker 6: it out there at night, a cold one cutting around.

2125
01:42:12,093 --> 01:42:14,852
Speaker 2: How good? And it doesn't does it look realistic? Or

2126
01:42:14,893 --> 01:42:16,612
Speaker 2: you're not worried because it's a putt and green so

2127
01:42:16,612 --> 01:42:17,452
Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter.

2128
01:42:18,452 --> 01:42:20,053
Speaker 6: It's a putt and green, so you can blow it

2129
01:42:20,572 --> 01:42:22,852
Speaker 6: and if the dog goes on it, you can just

2130
01:42:22,933 --> 01:42:27,293
Speaker 6: pick it up. Water goes through it, and yeah, no,

2131
01:42:27,532 --> 01:42:29,532
Speaker 6: it's I recommend it if you don't want it, if

2132
01:42:29,532 --> 01:42:31,013
Speaker 6: you want to look at some greens and you can

2133
01:42:31,053 --> 01:42:32,692
Speaker 6: walk on it, it's good to walk on.

2134
01:42:33,293 --> 01:42:34,412
Speaker 5: Yeah, fantastic.

2135
01:42:34,532 --> 01:42:38,013
Speaker 2: And yeah, did you get the whole family supporting this

2136
01:42:38,213 --> 01:42:40,612
Speaker 2: or was this more of just a Matthew initiatives.

2137
01:42:41,173 --> 01:42:43,452
Speaker 6: It was it was a we were going to go

2138
01:42:43,492 --> 01:42:46,372
Speaker 6: because I'm a mower. I'm like, I love mowing, mowing

2139
01:42:46,372 --> 01:42:48,333
Speaker 6: the vergers at the front. I love the lines. I

2140
01:42:48,333 --> 01:42:54,173
Speaker 6: love the cleanliness and the order it brings to the neighborhood. Yes, yeah,

2141
01:42:54,293 --> 01:42:56,333
Speaker 6: well it just I only had a small bit of

2142
01:42:56,333 --> 01:42:58,532
Speaker 6: grass out the back, so I thought, nah, I was

2143
01:42:58,532 --> 01:43:01,333
Speaker 6: going to put stake graphs down and then but the

2144
01:43:01,412 --> 01:43:03,333
Speaker 6: cutting green's about the same as the steake graft, so

2145
01:43:03,333 --> 01:43:04,412
Speaker 6: I said, let's put a green in.

2146
01:43:05,013 --> 01:43:05,452
Speaker 5: I like that.

2147
01:43:05,692 --> 01:43:07,253
Speaker 2: Does it feel the same under your toes?

2148
01:43:07,293 --> 01:43:07,452
Speaker 17: Though?

2149
01:43:07,572 --> 01:43:09,133
Speaker 3: See, that's what I can't can't get around with the

2150
01:43:09,133 --> 01:43:10,452
Speaker 3: old astroturth.

2151
01:43:10,933 --> 01:43:14,133
Speaker 6: Because it's like crazy golf, you know, popup golf for

2152
01:43:14,412 --> 01:43:17,973
Speaker 6: that sort of Yeah. So it's but it's green, and

2153
01:43:18,013 --> 01:43:21,253
Speaker 6: it's always green. That will never die, and it was

2154
01:43:21,333 --> 01:43:25,733
Speaker 6: laid it will live forever. It's got a ten year guarantee.

2155
01:43:25,933 --> 01:43:26,133
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2156
01:43:27,293 --> 01:43:29,653
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's fantastic, fantastic.

2157
01:43:29,853 --> 01:43:31,732
Speaker 2: Oh well, good on you, Matthew. There's a suggestion.

2158
01:43:31,973 --> 01:43:33,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's a massive proponent for the old

2159
01:43:33,853 --> 01:43:34,452
Speaker 3: astro turth.

2160
01:43:34,732 --> 01:43:37,333
Speaker 2: And you've you've still got a lawn, and you've you've

2161
01:43:37,333 --> 01:43:39,093
Speaker 2: still got a lawn and a berm and all that

2162
01:43:39,213 --> 01:43:43,053
Speaker 2: kind of stuff to you know, so you can, you know,

2163
01:43:43,173 --> 01:43:44,293
Speaker 2: enjoy your mowing fetish.

2164
01:43:45,213 --> 01:43:47,452
Speaker 6: I do get my mowing done. I do the neighbors

2165
01:43:47,492 --> 01:43:51,213
Speaker 6: and the block. But so and I catch it. I

2166
01:43:51,213 --> 01:43:53,892
Speaker 6: don't catch it. I just melt it.

2167
01:43:54,173 --> 01:43:55,572
Speaker 5: What is it? Mulch it?

2168
01:43:56,333 --> 01:43:58,772
Speaker 10: You're do?

2169
01:43:58,772 --> 01:43:58,973
Speaker 5: You know?

2170
01:43:59,053 --> 01:44:01,892
Speaker 3: The only thing I work I would astro turf is

2171
01:44:01,933 --> 01:44:04,612
Speaker 3: the burn you know that doesn't belong to me.

2172
01:44:04,692 --> 01:44:06,253
Speaker 2: But I'm not big.

2173
01:44:06,412 --> 01:44:09,293
Speaker 3: I can't do it well to do it anyway because

2174
01:44:09,293 --> 01:44:11,012
Speaker 3: it's such a pain in the ass to get down

2175
01:44:11,053 --> 01:44:12,772
Speaker 3: there and give my little weed work around. I'm going

2176
01:44:12,812 --> 01:44:15,852
Speaker 3: to ask, but that's my astro tap project. It's all

2177
01:44:15,853 --> 01:44:18,133
Speaker 3: con counts of your listening. It's going in. I don't

2178
01:44:18,133 --> 01:44:18,692
Speaker 3: care what you say.

2179
01:44:18,732 --> 01:44:21,213
Speaker 2: I tell you, I'm a big support of people picking

2180
01:44:21,253 --> 01:44:26,052
Speaker 2: up their dog leavings and bags. But on Tyler's astro

2181
01:44:26,133 --> 01:44:29,372
Speaker 2: Tour boom, I reckon just leave them, leave them, teach them.

2182
01:44:29,732 --> 01:44:31,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I'm gonna do it. Yeah, I'll be able

2183
01:44:31,893 --> 01:44:33,892
Speaker 3: to find me pretty easier. But the only the only

2184
01:44:33,933 --> 01:44:34,852
Speaker 3: boom with estro tour.

2185
01:44:36,173 --> 01:44:37,812
Speaker 2: I thank you for your call, Matthew, and good luck

2186
01:44:37,853 --> 01:44:40,012
Speaker 2: with your your your greens.

2187
01:44:40,093 --> 01:44:42,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the

2188
01:44:42,053 --> 01:44:44,213
Speaker 3: number to call. Plenty of teas coming through. On nine

2189
01:44:44,293 --> 01:44:45,253
Speaker 3: two ninety two.

2190
01:44:45,253 --> 01:44:47,452
Speaker 2: The stixter says, I don't know about lawns, but weed

2191
01:44:47,492 --> 01:44:49,772
Speaker 2: and feed after work definitely works for me. Thank you

2192
01:44:49,812 --> 01:44:50,053
Speaker 2: for that.

2193
01:44:50,532 --> 01:44:52,732
Speaker 3: Carry Yeah, Yates, Yates is good stuff.

2194
01:44:53,333 --> 01:44:56,452
Speaker 2: Paul, welcome to the show. How are you hello?

2195
01:44:57,772 --> 01:44:58,372
Speaker 4: So you got me?

2196
01:44:58,572 --> 01:45:00,772
Speaker 2: Yeah? You're loud and clear, Paul, Yeah.

2197
01:45:00,652 --> 01:45:07,692
Speaker 13: Yeah, okay, been listening for the last half. First up, man, yep.

2198
01:45:07,853 --> 01:45:09,492
Speaker 5: I love you on your.

2199
01:45:10,013 --> 01:45:16,372
Speaker 13: Mediocre high chair with your philosophy heads. Hats off to you, mate,

2200
01:45:16,452 --> 01:45:17,093
Speaker 13: I'll love it.

2201
01:45:17,333 --> 01:45:21,173
Speaker 2: Just keep me going on my privileged pedestal, as the

2202
01:45:21,213 --> 01:45:22,972
Speaker 2: person said, my privileged pedestal.

2203
01:45:25,412 --> 01:45:26,652
Speaker 5: Well, stay there.

2204
01:45:26,732 --> 01:45:28,892
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Paul I do. I do share

2205
01:45:28,973 --> 01:45:32,092
Speaker 2: my my position and my chair with with my costing.

2206
01:45:32,173 --> 01:45:34,293
Speaker 2: So there is a there is a certain amount of

2207
01:45:34,572 --> 01:45:36,893
Speaker 2: a whim of privilege.

2208
01:45:35,652 --> 01:45:39,892
Speaker 13: I like him. I like him too because he can

2209
01:45:39,933 --> 01:45:40,932
Speaker 13: make jokes of himself.

2210
01:45:41,612 --> 01:45:43,772
Speaker 2: I'm sitting I'm sitting in the king's throne, you know

2211
01:45:43,933 --> 01:45:44,612
Speaker 2: when he's away.

2212
01:45:48,013 --> 01:45:50,653
Speaker 13: And Tyler got your your good bounce.

2213
01:45:50,333 --> 01:45:53,092
Speaker 2: From Matt, so you're not leaving out, Thank you, mate.

2214
01:45:53,933 --> 01:45:56,293
Speaker 13: Hey, I endorse what carry said at the beginning, if

2215
01:45:56,333 --> 01:45:58,572
Speaker 13: anyone wants a really serious lord. And I don't know

2216
01:45:58,612 --> 01:46:01,093
Speaker 13: this guy, but he has a similar industry to me.

2217
01:46:02,572 --> 01:46:05,133
Speaker 13: So yeah, ring carey, mate, and get the best lorn

2218
01:46:05,173 --> 01:46:07,532
Speaker 13: in Auckland. And I don't know him.

2219
01:46:07,572 --> 01:46:08,293
Speaker 5: Okay, I don't know.

2220
01:46:08,532 --> 01:46:11,852
Speaker 3: A prestige prestige lawn mowing. I think it was a

2221
01:46:11,933 --> 01:46:16,452
Speaker 3: lawn care ye. So what you Yeah, what have you

2222
01:46:16,452 --> 01:46:17,013
Speaker 3: got on your lawn?

2223
01:46:17,053 --> 01:46:18,333
Speaker 2: Pull? What sort of grass.

2224
01:46:21,692 --> 01:46:21,852
Speaker 5: There?

2225
01:46:22,013 --> 01:46:22,173
Speaker 6: Oh?

2226
01:46:22,253 --> 01:46:24,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry mate, I jumped over there. What sort of

2227
01:46:24,133 --> 01:46:26,053
Speaker 3: grass have you got are you? Are you going a

2228
01:46:26,053 --> 01:46:27,972
Speaker 3: bit of rye or something a little bit more exotic?

2229
01:46:28,572 --> 01:46:32,333
Speaker 22: That's interesting. Yeah, I've got an awesome lawn. But not

2230
01:46:32,532 --> 01:46:34,612
Speaker 22: to look at this what you want. You've got to

2231
01:46:34,612 --> 01:46:36,412
Speaker 22: think about what am I going to use it for.

2232
01:46:37,853 --> 01:46:38,293
Speaker 5: The look?

2233
01:46:39,093 --> 01:46:42,492
Speaker 22: And I'm quite big on mindfulness, so I like taking

2234
01:46:42,532 --> 01:46:43,973
Speaker 22: most boots off at the end of the day and

2235
01:46:44,013 --> 01:46:47,133
Speaker 22: there's thinking hot socks and walking around my lawn and

2236
01:46:47,133 --> 01:46:48,092
Speaker 22: feeling that grass.

2237
01:46:48,133 --> 01:46:49,972
Speaker 13: So Tyler, hats off to you.

2238
01:46:50,013 --> 01:46:50,652
Speaker 5: On that one too.

2239
01:46:51,612 --> 01:46:52,013
Speaker 2: Spot On.

2240
01:46:52,492 --> 01:46:54,253
Speaker 22: You know, it's it's you've got to think what you want.

2241
01:46:54,333 --> 01:46:57,732
Speaker 22: Then you've got to look at your microclimates, and you know,

2242
01:46:58,093 --> 01:47:02,012
Speaker 22: an Orkrand there's several microclimates. But see like ky kill

2243
01:47:02,093 --> 01:47:04,612
Speaker 22: you is a brilliant lawn because if you had a

2244
01:47:04,692 --> 01:47:09,053
Speaker 22: dog and three three boys for your rank forwards and

2245
01:47:09,093 --> 01:47:11,013
Speaker 22: your rugby, this the perfect grass.

2246
01:47:12,452 --> 01:47:15,612
Speaker 3: Why because it's quite hardy. It can take a bit

2247
01:47:15,652 --> 01:47:16,612
Speaker 3: of your right from the boys.

2248
01:47:17,053 --> 01:47:19,372
Speaker 5: I kill you. Yeah, And there's no blade. I can't

2249
01:47:19,452 --> 01:47:20,372
Speaker 5: cull you in my lawn.

2250
01:47:20,692 --> 01:47:23,253
Speaker 13: And there's no daisies in my either. I hate those.

2251
01:47:24,692 --> 01:47:27,093
Speaker 2: So are you are you just knocking the heads off them?

2252
01:47:27,253 --> 01:47:32,652
Speaker 2: Or have you eliminated days you? If you see one, yep.

2253
01:47:33,013 --> 01:47:37,092
Speaker 13: You know, dig it out all rights. One turns into

2254
01:47:37,412 --> 01:47:41,572
Speaker 13: six and then next year it's twenty forty dirty daisies.

2255
01:47:42,053 --> 01:47:44,253
Speaker 2: So you're not sitting cross legga with the misses making

2256
01:47:44,412 --> 01:47:45,212
Speaker 2: daisy chains.

2257
01:47:45,253 --> 01:47:52,372
Speaker 13: And when I was younger, one.

2258
01:47:52,213 --> 01:47:54,333
Speaker 2: Of my sons, when he was playing cricket, you know,

2259
01:47:54,372 --> 01:47:56,692
Speaker 2: when he was junior. I'll be watching a game and

2260
01:47:56,853 --> 01:47:58,932
Speaker 2: I look over and he'd be in the outfield facing

2261
01:47:58,933 --> 01:48:02,652
Speaker 2: with his back to the back to the game, making

2262
01:48:02,772 --> 01:48:05,013
Speaker 2: daisy chains. Cross legas.

2263
01:48:05,333 --> 01:48:08,452
Speaker 3: Get your head in the game, sun, come on, yeah

2264
01:48:09,213 --> 01:48:09,572
Speaker 3: the bar.

2265
01:48:10,213 --> 01:48:12,372
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah.

2266
01:48:12,452 --> 01:48:16,653
Speaker 22: So it's really down to what I definitely wouldn't go artificial.

2267
01:48:16,812 --> 01:48:19,452
Speaker 22: But then I'm a person who likes to mur my

2268
01:48:19,532 --> 01:48:22,772
Speaker 22: lawn like you, Matty, and my wife loves the smell

2269
01:48:22,933 --> 01:48:24,372
Speaker 22: of Frish cut grass.

2270
01:48:24,452 --> 01:48:25,892
Speaker 13: So I'm on a win win.

2271
01:48:26,173 --> 01:48:30,213
Speaker 22: But my lawn I sowed a fine rescue at first.

2272
01:48:30,293 --> 01:48:33,013
Speaker 22: And the reason I swed that was you can use

2273
01:48:33,013 --> 01:48:35,652
Speaker 22: a spray that keeps everything else out and have this

2274
01:48:35,732 --> 01:48:39,052
Speaker 22: perfect grass. Anyway, I looked next door to my neighbor

2275
01:48:39,053 --> 01:48:42,772
Speaker 22: who had been there since the late fifties maybe sixties,

2276
01:48:43,253 --> 01:48:47,572
Speaker 22: and he had a combination of carpet grass in Indian doob,

2277
01:48:47,652 --> 01:48:53,532
Speaker 22: which is New Zealand coach, and those two combined were amazing.

2278
01:48:53,933 --> 01:48:56,532
Speaker 22: And I said to him, and I always often went over,

2279
01:48:56,652 --> 01:48:59,253
Speaker 22: you know, oh you've got a damn good lawn, and hey,

2280
01:48:59,253 --> 01:49:00,452
Speaker 22: ever do anything with it?

2281
01:49:01,133 --> 01:49:03,492
Speaker 5: And he had this. Anyway, I cleared my.

2282
01:49:03,492 --> 01:49:06,013
Speaker 13: Whole side put in this rescue.

2283
01:49:05,572 --> 01:49:07,612
Speaker 22: But I left a little bit of this Indian dub

2284
01:49:07,692 --> 01:49:10,452
Speaker 22: and the driveway and it crept over into my lawn.

2285
01:49:11,213 --> 01:49:14,132
Speaker 22: And now I've got probably half of it in Indian

2286
01:49:14,213 --> 01:49:18,093
Speaker 22: dobe and half of it in carper grass. Now I

2287
01:49:18,173 --> 01:49:20,572
Speaker 22: don't have to mow my grass very often because in

2288
01:49:20,652 --> 01:49:23,372
Speaker 22: winter time both those grasses go dormant. So I might

2289
01:49:23,732 --> 01:49:27,293
Speaker 22: mow my grass twice in winter, doesn't that fantastic? Don't

2290
01:49:27,333 --> 01:49:29,173
Speaker 22: have to get out and mow my lawn. I just

2291
01:49:29,173 --> 01:49:30,532
Speaker 22: sit there and have my beer instead.

2292
01:49:30,732 --> 01:49:36,612
Speaker 3: Good time, Paul dream Now. I'm not gonna question Paul

2293
01:49:36,612 --> 01:49:38,692
Speaker 3: too much because he's clearly passionate about lawns. But I

2294
01:49:38,732 --> 01:49:42,532
Speaker 3: will say I think it's pronounced couch grass kow c.

2295
01:49:42,772 --> 01:49:46,692
Speaker 2: H couch grass coach. They called it kiwi cooch.

2296
01:49:46,893 --> 01:49:49,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, couch Just for anyone listening out there, that's how

2297
01:49:49,772 --> 01:49:50,492
Speaker 3: you spell it as well.

2298
01:49:50,532 --> 01:49:52,532
Speaker 2: I thought he was talking about something else. The issue

2299
01:49:52,532 --> 01:49:55,692
Speaker 2: with estraturf creates toxic ground underneath. How some paths are

2300
01:49:55,692 --> 01:49:57,812
Speaker 2: bad enough on the environment. Can we not have a

2301
01:49:57,973 --> 01:50:02,372
Speaker 2: lawn to try and look after the planet? Man? So my,

2302
01:50:03,013 --> 01:50:07,253
Speaker 2: so there's my boom saving the planet. Apparently, apparently I

2303
01:50:07,293 --> 01:50:11,093
Speaker 2: didn't know with my little, my three little lawns, I'm

2304
01:50:11,133 --> 01:50:13,572
Speaker 2: saving the planet. I'm bloody Greta Thunberg over here with

2305
01:50:13,612 --> 01:50:16,452
Speaker 2: my with my little patch of mounted and lawn. You're

2306
01:50:16,452 --> 01:50:18,532
Speaker 2: doing your part, man right, got to take a break.

2307
01:50:18,572 --> 01:50:19,612
Speaker 2: It is twelve to four.

2308
01:50:20,612 --> 01:50:24,452
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the lads on eighty Matt Heath

2309
01:50:24,492 --> 01:50:27,293
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons news talks, It be.

2310
01:50:27,933 --> 01:50:30,772
Speaker 3: News talks, it be so many. Teaser comes through on

2311
01:50:30,893 --> 01:50:31,932
Speaker 3: nine two nine two.

2312
01:50:32,532 --> 01:50:33,572
Speaker 2: It is pronounced coach.

2313
01:50:33,652 --> 01:50:35,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry. Stay in your lane, Tyler.

2314
01:50:35,452 --> 01:50:37,213
Speaker 2: It y is your mind out of the garter Tyler.

2315
01:50:37,532 --> 01:50:40,572
Speaker 2: That's from Scott, a former groundskeeper. It's an unfortunately named grass,

2316
01:50:40,572 --> 01:50:45,492
Speaker 2: but it is called coach. It's not unfortunate, it's definitely okay. Hi,

2317
01:50:45,572 --> 01:50:48,412
Speaker 2: the grass, the grass leans over moa gets under the

2318
01:50:48,412 --> 01:50:50,892
Speaker 2: grass better when you go the opposite way. Brett. Oh,

2319
01:50:50,893 --> 01:50:53,572
Speaker 2: that's why you do the clockwork back and forth stuff.

2320
01:50:54,532 --> 01:50:57,572
Speaker 2: Do you know? You know at you know stadiums, how

2321
01:50:57,692 --> 01:51:01,572
Speaker 2: they'll have two games and two days with different markings. Yep.

2322
01:51:01,652 --> 01:51:04,652
Speaker 2: They use the coma over approach. This is what breat

2323
01:51:04,692 --> 01:51:08,933
Speaker 2: Christensen does at Eden Park. So the you have the

2324
01:51:09,053 --> 01:51:12,932
Speaker 2: you paint it the lines, and you brush the grass

2325
01:51:12,973 --> 01:51:14,732
Speaker 2: that way, and the next day you pull it back

2326
01:51:14,772 --> 01:51:16,253
Speaker 2: and it reveals the lines.

2327
01:51:16,333 --> 01:51:18,652
Speaker 3: It's actually genius. Yeah, that is phenomenal work.

2328
01:51:19,013 --> 01:51:20,973
Speaker 2: Hey guys, pour a few bottles of beer on the

2329
01:51:21,053 --> 01:51:22,973
Speaker 2: lawn and mow it a bit later. It will be

2330
01:51:23,013 --> 01:51:28,333
Speaker 2: half cut. That's good. That's that's good stuff. Hey, guys,

2331
01:51:28,333 --> 01:51:30,372
Speaker 2: burning here. It's not just about a lawn. It's about

2332
01:51:30,412 --> 01:51:33,692
Speaker 2: taking pride in your property, being outside, getting some vitamin D,

2333
01:51:33,732 --> 01:51:36,612
Speaker 2: getting excized and reconnect with nature and appreciate it. People

2334
01:51:36,652 --> 01:51:40,293
Speaker 2: are so far detached from what we used to do, hunting, growing,

2335
01:51:40,333 --> 01:51:43,172
Speaker 2: gathering and nurturing what we have at a disposal.

2336
01:51:43,253 --> 01:51:43,732
Speaker 6: I like that.

2337
01:51:43,732 --> 01:51:45,852
Speaker 2: That's what I feel when I'm when I'm sewing my

2338
01:51:45,933 --> 01:51:48,173
Speaker 2: lawn at the moment when I'm mowing the other lawn

2339
01:51:48,253 --> 01:51:51,412
Speaker 2: and when I'm cutting down yackers, and it's like a

2340
01:51:51,973 --> 01:51:54,492
Speaker 2: slight Walden, real life Walden out there cutting down yakers

2341
01:51:54,492 --> 01:51:56,932
Speaker 2: and putting them in the moor recycling bin. I feel

2342
01:51:56,933 --> 01:51:57,932
Speaker 2: like I'm getting back to nature.

2343
01:51:57,973 --> 01:52:00,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, one with nature. I can see that. Ah right,

2344
01:52:00,452 --> 01:52:02,612
Speaker 3: We're gonna play some more messages Begary shortly. It is

2345
01:52:02,692 --> 01:52:04,732
Speaker 3: eight to four the.

2346
01:52:04,572 --> 01:52:08,293
Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and every

2347
01:52:08,372 --> 01:52:10,692
Speaker 1: thing between Matt Heath and Taylor Adams.

2348
01:52:10,732 --> 01:52:12,532
Speaker 4: Afternoons us talks, it'd.

2349
01:52:12,412 --> 01:52:15,972
Speaker 2: Be it is five to four. Tell you who's buddy

2350
01:52:15,973 --> 01:52:19,732
Speaker 2: good net in seed. If they've got everything you got, Yeah, yeah,

2351
01:52:19,732 --> 01:52:22,693
Speaker 2: you got your your tall fescue, you got your bermuda,

2352
01:52:23,173 --> 01:52:26,613
Speaker 2: your quell, your grass, whatever you want, greens keeper choice

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Speaker 2: and all your lawn fertilizer. And I tell you what's

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Speaker 2: good is your lawn summer stressed defense because in Auckland

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Speaker 2: City the lawns take a pounding in summer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it comes down hard that their sun and vitamin D.

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Speaker 2: Yeah absolutely. I mean they're either going very well or

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Speaker 2: they're under under juris so Newton Seed. They're good people.

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Speaker 3: Dot co dot ends it if you want to go

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Speaker 3: check them out. But they seem to know their stuff

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 2: That brings us the end of the show. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for listening everyone, another fantastically fun show. Had

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Speaker 2: had a really good time today. The podcast will be

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Speaker 2: up in about an hour if you want to listen

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Speaker 2: to our chat saying miss if you missed any of

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Speaker 2: our chats, you know, the great and powerful Heatherdop of

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Speaker 2: c Allen is up next. But tell me, Tyler, why

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Speaker 2: would I be playing this song by Madness.

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Speaker 3: Great June our house Zechaus. We had that great discussion

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Speaker 3: and about mpeace properties and who gives a damn if

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Speaker 3: they've done well in life?

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Speaker 2: Yes, they're pretty close, very accurate. Tyler nailed it all right.

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Speaker 2: You seem busy. We'll let you go until tomorrow afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Give a taste of Kiwi from US bless you.

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