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Speaker 1: All right, damn it since I US correspondent. Hi Dan, Hey,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon. Yeah, good to have you here. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with Gene Heckman and his pianist wife Bitsy. They were

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Speaker 1: found did at home. Also did was one of the dogs.

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Speaker 1: Do we have any idea what happened here?

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Speaker 2: This is just such a fascinating case. At first investigators

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Speaker 2: were saying there was nothing suspicious, and to answer your question, no,

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Speaker 2: we don't know what happened at this point. Autopsies are

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Speaker 2: being conducted on both the bodies. We know at this

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Speaker 2: point the cause of death doesn't appear to be carbon monoxide,

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Speaker 2: which the family of Gene Hackman originally thought. But his

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Speaker 2: body was found in the mudroom. Her body was found

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Speaker 2: in the bathroom with a prescription bottle of pills scattered

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Speaker 2: around the countertop and a heater that had been moved

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Speaker 2: by there. As you mentioned the dog, one of the

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Speaker 2: dogs was found dead as well. There doesn't seem to

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Speaker 2: be any sign of a break in or problems like this,

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Speaker 2: so this really is a head scratcher. We may not

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Speaker 2: know for weeks what caused these three deaths.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people at the start, because there were

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Speaker 1: two humans and a dog, thinking on, maybe this is

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Speaker 1: a gas leak, but that's been ruled out.

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Speaker 2: Yes, gas company, you tested the gas lines in around

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Speaker 2: the home. But you know, within hours after the bodies

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Speaker 2: had been discovered, according to the search war and they

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Speaker 2: didn't find any signs of problems. The fire department didn't

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Speaker 2: find any signs of carbon monoxide leaks or poisonings right there.

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Speaker 2: And a detective just a short time ago came out

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Speaker 2: and said, there's just no obvious signs of any kind

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Speaker 2: of gas leak there. But that being said, people that

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Speaker 2: are exposed to gas leaks or carbon monoxide might not

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Speaker 2: show signs of poisoning. So I think that's why we're

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Speaker 2: going to have to wait until we find out what

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Speaker 2: the autopsy reveals.

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Speaker 1: And the door was open, that's correct, isn't it the

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Speaker 1: front door it arrived it was.

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Speaker 2: That was the only thing they found a little strange there,

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Speaker 2: because they did have one of the gardeners for the

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Speaker 2: area had called nine one one two report that he

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Speaker 2: had seen a body inside the house and didn't appear

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Speaker 2: to be moving, and at first they thought, well, maybe

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Speaker 2: they had only been dead for a day or so,

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Speaker 2: but then we learned earlier this afternoon that the bodies

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Speaker 2: appear to have been mummified, which indicates that they've been

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Speaker 2: dead for a number of days at least.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk all about these Jeffrey Epstein files. That

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration has released the first document dumps taking place,

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Speaker 1: what do we know, Well, this.

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Speaker 2: Is interesting because they had been this has been a

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Speaker 2: big bruja ha all day long. We kept waiting and

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Speaker 2: waiting and waiting, and then they finally had dumped this

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Speaker 2: just a short time ago, and there's no big revelations. Instead,

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Speaker 2: where we've got celebrities and politicians who were already known

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Speaker 2: to have who have hung around with Epstein, a notorious pedophile.

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Speaker 2: Right now. The New York Post had said this before

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Speaker 2: this was even dumped, that we probably knew a lot

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Speaker 2: of these names, and they included Mick Jagger and Michael

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Speaker 2: Jackson and Alec Baldwin and the mother of Robert F.

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Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior Courtney Love, who's a rocker and former governor

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Speaker 2: of New York as well. And these are really just

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Speaker 2: names teams. The President's name, by the way, because everybody

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Speaker 2: was wondering is his name going to be on the

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Speaker 2: contact list, was not on the list, and this is

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Speaker 2: not a client list, but just includes names of people

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Speaker 2: on his contact list. So we're going to have to

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Speaker 2: wait and see if anything comes to lighten the second dump,

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Speaker 2: and we're not sure when that's going to happen at

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Speaker 2: this point.

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Speaker 1: Okay, just finally, we've spoken a lot of this outternoon

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Speaker 1: already about President Trump and the UK Prime Minister Sakis Dama.

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Speaker 1: What is the American priest making of the meeting?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think, like you said, I mean, there's nobody

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Speaker 2: that says no to President Trump. Really, I think people

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Speaker 2: are and I'm no disrespect to the British PM, but

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Speaker 2: I think people are actually looking beyond him too tomorrow

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Speaker 2: when President Trump is going to meet with Ukraine's president

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Speaker 2: to sign this minerals deal. But as for today, I

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Speaker 2: think there were a lot of questions. One reporter had

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Speaker 2: asked whether he and the PM and the President had

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Speaker 2: discussed the desire to annex Canada as the fifty first state,

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Speaker 2: and the PM said, I think you're trying to find

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Speaker 2: a divide between us doesn't exist, and Trump just kind

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Speaker 2: of blew that reporter wing and let's let's let's move on. Really,

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Speaker 2: But a while of the interaction I think was very friendly,

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Speaker 2: very chummy, although there was one point where the President

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Speaker 2: was corrected by the British Prime Minister, but it seemed

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Speaker 2: to go pretty well, I would.

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Speaker 1: Say, interesting stuff. Dan, Thanks so much for that, Dan Mitchison,

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