1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: America's Cup begins tonight in Spain. We will take on 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Lunar Rossa and of course we've got any else. We've 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: got Orient Express of Lining, American Magic and it's all 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: on for the next couple of months. Of course, head 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 1: of Team New Zealand from Spain, Grant Dott's with us. 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Good morning morning, Mike. Scale of one to ten. Ten, 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: it couldn't be more ready one. It's a disaster. Watch 8 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: your score. 9 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: I reckon, it's I reckon. It's probably about a nine. 10 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: Actually it's it's you know, we've had a dress rehearsal today, 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: but preliminary practice racing and it all went really well. 12 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: The village opens tomorrow. TIV went well today just in practice. No, 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: I think we're really ready to go. 14 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: And how does it balance up as being the holder, 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: the host, plus a team and having to work through 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: all of that. 17 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: Well, it's busy. 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: Now. 19 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: One of the things about winning the America's Cup you 20 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 2: got to you got to host it as well and 21 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: run it, so it makes it pretty busy. But one 22 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: of the mistakes that a lot of people think is 23 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: that it's like any other sports and that they're independent 24 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: of each other. They're not and the winner of the 25 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: America's Cup. That's one of the reasons it's so hard 26 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: to win. Also puts on the event, so the team 27 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: has a big say in how that event gets run, 28 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: and you know what the rules are. 29 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: And as far as the rest of it's concerned that 30 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: the young people, the women, you know. As good as 31 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: that is for the sport, that presumably stretches you even further, 32 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: doesn't it. That's a lot of racing, a lot of boats, 33 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of teams. 34 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. I think we've got that pretty well managed. 35 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: I mean they run within the base, but independently, like 36 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: we're out today racing and they were a little bit 37 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: further down the coast two or three miles practice racing 38 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: with the other teams, and in fact they haven't even 39 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 2: come back in yet. So it certainly stretches. And it's 40 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: not just us though, it stretches all the teams because 41 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: that's a whole bunch more people. I think in Team 42 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: New Zealand we're around about with the youth and woman 43 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: probably aout one hundred and fifty and within the event 44 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: we'd be closing in on close to three hundred now, 45 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: including the one hundred and twenty TV team. 46 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: So as an event and your long term involvement of it, 47 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: this is growing, it's better, it's advancing. We're improving at all. 48 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, certainly we're going to give a bias 49 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: you to that, and I am particularly, but you know, 50 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: I think we are, and I think that that's showing 51 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: in one specific number. When we had the event in 52 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: Aukland twenty one, we had a combined audience were over 53 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: the course of everything of nine hundred and fourteen million, 54 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 2: And before this event even started, like I'm talking two 55 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: months ago, we were already up to about seven hundred 56 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: and fifty million apples for apples. So from a growth 57 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: point of view, being in Europe, time zone, et cetera, 58 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: be it that you know, we're not in New Zealand, 59 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: and I understand the frustration of that. It's certainly growing it. 60 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: As far as the technology is concerned, what are we 61 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: going to see that's remarkably different from last time? I'm 62 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: assuming immediately speed, Yeah, but you. 63 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: Know that's to the layman to Formula one cars, you know, 64 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: going don't look any different from one season to the 65 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 2: next in terms of their overall speed. I think you'll 66 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: see tomorrow when the whole graphics package comes to where 67 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: a new and I don't want to say about it 68 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: now because we're about to announce it twisting in the morning, 69 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: a whole new look and a particular new way to 70 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: watch and understand the sport, because of course we all 71 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: know it's not an easy sport to understand. I mean, 72 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: Kiwis understand it better than anybody. And we've come up 73 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: with a whole new mechanism that makes it a more 74 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: understanding and we've ran it today live live to ourselves 75 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: if you like, and it worked perfectly. 76 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: Fantastic bit of a riddle. But wait till tomorrow, Okay, 77 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: fair enough to as far as the location is concerned, 78 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: you're happy with how that's been handled, how the people 79 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: have welcomed you, you know, as a base, and you 80 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: know all of that sort of thing that's come together. 81 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know we I think if you ask 82 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: someone on the street two and a half years ago, 83 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: what was America's cup, that it was a soccer of 84 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: eton Covid America is a soccer of in South America. 85 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: At survey two weeks ago by the main paper, Hair 86 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: Levan Guardia to the simple question do you know what 87 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: the America's Cup is? And are you going to come? 88 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: Seventy seven point five percent of Barcelonians, so you know 89 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: that's I think we've done a really nice job integrating 90 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: ourselves and the event into the city. And it's very open. 91 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: It's a very open waterfront, a very large village, huge 92 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: beach front and with the predominant wind directions, we're sailing 93 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: right in on the beach. 94 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: Now that my fascination at the moment. I don't know 95 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: how much time you spent thinking about this of any 96 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: but if you look at sport globally, right is there 97 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: in terms of the media streaming, the amount of money 98 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: that's out there for broadcast rights, all that stuff. It 99 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 1: appears to me that sport has never been more popular 100 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: and broadcasters are desperate to get a slice of this 101 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: particular action. Will that be an estimation of what's happening 102 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: in your sport, you think or not? 103 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: No, it wouldn't. Actually, I think that it's growing, but 104 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: all sport is, but it's consumed, as you know, a 105 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: lot different than it was. And I think that, you know, 106 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: the free to air is coming back into its own 107 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: in some ways other than you know, as well as 108 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: platforms and to grow the sport. We have TV for 109 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: us as a significant cost. We spend a net net 110 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 2: just on twenty million euros on TV to bring the 111 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: product to air because we're trying to populate it around 112 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: the planet, not just hide it behind paywalls. Now, we 113 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: could make that a profit center probably, but it'd be 114 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: hidden behind a paywall in the sport would would you 115 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: not grow because of it? So we see it as 116 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 2: a responsibility to bring it to more and more people 117 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 2: that we can, and so we see that as a cost. 118 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: Is it accessible do you think? I mean, I look 119 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: at Drive to Survive in Formula one. We're never going 120 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: to drive an F one car and we're never going 121 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: to sail the sort of boats you do. But does 122 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: it become accessible or fascinating to people, whether or not 123 00:05:58,600 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: they can participate? 124 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. I mean, I'm fascinated by 125 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: Drive to Survive and F one, but I'm even to 126 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: Dry one. And we are doing that with sky Dance, 127 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: who did Mission Impossible and Free Solo and The Last 128 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: Dance and the Here Now they're better in all the teams, 129 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: so we're doing our own version of that and with 130 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: the rig coming down on a lingy yesterday. You know, 131 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: they had a pretty nice story embedded in the team 132 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: as well. Now, I don't know, you know, I think 133 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: we just we can only do our best to make 134 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: it more popularized by showing it to more people. But 135 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: it's never going to be the world's most popular sport. 136 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: It just it just isn't. And it's more children and 137 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: women in that sale, that's great. But America's cups, America's cup, 138 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: it's the top of the food chain, it's the pinnacle 139 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: of the sport, and it'll always just be that. You know, 140 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: not everybody can be in it. 141 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: What's your sense of a wind window in terms of 142 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: you know, not only racing, but people's view of it 143 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: and going on, God, there's no racing to again because 144 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: the wind didn't blow. Is it a good wind window 145 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: in that part of the world. 146 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: You know, they were in high summer here and the 147 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: wind should be eight to ten pretty much every day. 148 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: Today it was twenty with big waves. It's just you know, 149 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: and I was just talking abou our weather guy this 150 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: morning about the clouds, and you know, you've seen that 151 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: tragedy that happened just just nearby with that but you know, 152 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: it's a really weird summer here. It might mean we 153 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: have an Indian summer, which is quite good for us 154 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: with the event in October. I think in the whole 155 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: time we've been sailing here, there's probably been two days 156 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: when we've either not been able to fail because of 157 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: too much or too little. But what we're going to 158 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: get on the day within that, you know, band, I 159 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: just don't know. It just isn't the normal summer. And 160 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: you always hear that it wasn't a normal summer in 161 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: Aukland either, But certainly it's sailable at the moment every day. 162 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: Okay, talk to me. Taught me through the teams. Who's hot? 163 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: Do you think? 164 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it's adding to you know, it's words 165 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: a cliche to say they're all good and to the 166 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: point they are to me, Luna Rossa is becoming the standout. 167 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: And I think today, you know, today everybody was an anger. 168 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: Right we race Luna Rossa in very upranged conditions. Tomorrow 169 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: we race the English. Today. Practice racing tomorrow. It sort 170 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: of counts a bit more. But they're putting away anybody 171 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: that come against pretty easily. They spence with the English 172 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: after we'd sailed against them today quite easily. It'll be 173 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: interesting when we sail on tomorrow because we're not really 174 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: set up for high winds at the moment. You know, 175 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: you've got to put your boat somewhere. And the other 176 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 2: thing we always have to keep reminding ourselves, and this 177 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: is a lesson of San Francisco is they don't count 178 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: ow points till October. And we have a lot of 179 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: stuff in the pipeline coming which will only make us faster, 180 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 2: and it's not on stream at the moment. 181 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: Is that the same for the other teams? Is there 182 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: any foxing going on or not? 183 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: No, no, no, they're all you know, they're all going 184 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: to get better because their techniques will get but they're 185 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: wrung out now. You know, there's three weeks from now. 186 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: One's going home, so they've got nothing other than techniques 187 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: and the way they sail, they've got nothing left in 188 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: the tank. Maybe that tank's good enough to beat us, 189 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 2: but we've got a lot coming, and that's just if 190 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: you're going to have some advantages of defender. That's one 191 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: of them that we're later on. And that's something we 192 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: didn't do right in San Francisco. We got right in Auckland. 193 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: We got right in Bermuda and hopefully we'll get it 194 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: right here. 195 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: And what would they say about you guys. 196 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: I think they would say that we're pretty fast in 197 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: the light to moderate. They wouldn't necessarily comment on uprange 198 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: at the moment because frankly the day the first time 199 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: we've had it. But I think they'd say we're sailing well. 200 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: I think my feel is that it's a unit. The 201 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: sailing team is going exceptionally well. And I say that 202 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: in contrast to Auckland, where I was one of the 203 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: critics of our own sailing team. But they are not 204 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: like that anymore. They are very well drilled, mature team. 205 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm listening to them all day on the 206 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: comms and they're sailing really well. 207 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: Good on you, well go well Tonight, Grunt Dotton, we'll 208 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: talk again, Grant Dalton, head of Team New Zealand. Of 209 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: course that begins tonight. It's eleven or twelve o'clock tonight, 210 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: our time in Spain. 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