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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Taine podcast

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Speaker 1: from news Talk, said B. Start your weekend off in

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Speaker 2: Morn in a good morning welcome to news Talks, ed

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Speaker 2: Vedum Jack Taine with you through to twelve o'clock midday today.

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Speaker 2: So my mum texted the family group the family group

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Speaker 2: chat last Sunday morning at about nine o'clock, and she

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Speaker 2: said Happy Mother's Day everyone, and I had that feeling

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Speaker 2: about just I felt like my heart's skipper beat, like

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Speaker 2: just this this kind of panic, you know, the old

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Speaker 2: She'd just been kind of confused by all of the

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Speaker 2: advertising that always comes with Mother's Day. But if you

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Speaker 2: want to avoid the feeling that I had last Sunday morning,

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Speaker 2: now is the time to act. And if you haven't

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Speaker 2: got your Mother's Day plans sorted for tomorrow morning, we

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Speaker 2: have a great little tip for you. Before ten o'clock

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Speaker 2: this morning, we are making no fuss sticky buns, a

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Speaker 2: delicious recipe to treat your mum tomorrow morning that I

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Speaker 2: will share before ten o'clock. And then I've got a

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Speaker 2: number for you this morning. One hundred and ninety one million,

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Speaker 2: forty one million, seven hundred and thirty seven, one hundred

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Speaker 2: and ninety dollars. What would you do if you had

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Speaker 2: to spend that much money in the next twenty years.

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Speaker 2: You might think, oh, that sounds easy giving away two

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Speaker 2: hundred billion dollars. I think only a hunch. I think actually,

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Speaker 2: it's a whole lot harder than you might imagine. But

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Speaker 2: that is the challenge that Bill Gates faces. He now

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Speaker 2: says he wants to give away all of his money

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Speaker 2: everything over the next twenty years. He does not want

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Speaker 2: to die a rich man. So we're going to tell

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Speaker 2: you a bit more about that after ten o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's eight past nine Team the center of

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Speaker 2: the world. It's a funny concept, really, because on a

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Speaker 2: planet with more than eight billion people, the world's attention

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Speaker 2: never settles on any one event or any one thing

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Speaker 2: you would probably argue that the world's attention is kind

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Speaker 2: really big, a really truly significant event. To tone those

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Speaker 2: be there in person to actually experience it for yourself

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Speaker 2: is to be an eyewitness to history. I met a

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Speaker 2: New York Times tearing down the Berlin Wall. Truthfully, I

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Speaker 2: but by the nature of my job, I guess I've

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Speaker 2: been fortunate to witness some reasonably significant events firsthand. So

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Speaker 2: I sat there as Pope Francis addressed the General Assembly

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Speaker 2: President of the United States. And something tells me that

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Speaker 2: despite our kind of geographic isolation, New Zealanders are good

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Speaker 2: at sniffing out big, historic moments. It's kind of in

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Speaker 2: a papal conclave. There might be one point four billion

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Speaker 2: The world's attention might have been focused on the Vatican

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Speaker 3: In history Projectiam.

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Speaker 2: The reason I mentioned this is because after ten o'clock

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Speaker 2: this morning, our feature interview is the only New Zealander

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Speaker 2: with us right after the ten o'clock news to talk

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Speaker 2: cardinals having, what food were they eating, where were they sleeping?

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Speaker 2: I wanted a warn of those little details, So Cardinal

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Speaker 2: John Jue with us as our feature interview from Italy

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Speaker 2: right after the ten o'clock news. Kevin Milne will get

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Speaker 2: us underway next. Right now, it's thirteen minutes past nine.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jack Tame. This is news dog zedby.

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's one. Blair has sent me a note to

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Speaker 2: say Jack, I was there with the procession for Prince

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Speaker 2: William and Kate Middleton when they get married. I hate

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Speaker 2: but still to be there standing as the procession went

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Speaker 2: by felt like a real moment in history. Yeah, if

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Speaker 2: you've got one, send us at by all means. Ninety two.

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Speaker 2: Ninety two is the text number of the morning. You can

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Speaker 2: email me like bleeded jacket Newsboroks. He'd be dot co

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Speaker 2: dot nz. Right now it is sixteen minutes past nine.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Milne is with us this morning. Killed kevinker Well.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what these occasions I don't know that

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Speaker 4: grand piano. Oh, so we said, do you want to hand?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, classic thing. It's way. You should always have a

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Speaker 2: it'll be, you know, I'm sure there'll be some good

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Speaker 2: examples this morning. Anyway, Kevin, a very special email was

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Speaker 2: sent to us which piqued your attention.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we've said, the gray email from a listener. It

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Speaker 4: was sent to you, of course, and you forwarded it

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Speaker 4: on to me for me. The letter represents the rewards

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Speaker 4: of remaining on a show for a long long time.

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Speaker 4: Here's the listener's email, which i've abbreviated approximately eighteen years ago,

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Speaker 4: in his regular Saturday morning slot on ZBB, Kevin explained

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Speaker 4: he had kept a record of the particularly amusing things

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Speaker 4: back and remembering. He recommended well it. So I took

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Speaker 4: three years old. This week, I handed over the Humble

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Speaker 4: His reaction exceeded all expectations. So thanks for the idea,

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Speaker 4: and I too commend keeping such a record to anyone

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Speaker 5: Jack.

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Speaker 4: Well, thanks for that listener, for his delightful message, and

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Speaker 4: for being such a loyal listener over nearly two decades.

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Speaker 4: And so I have to ask you, Jack, have you

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Speaker 2: I have recorded myself talking about significant things in my life. So,

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Speaker 4: Was somebody to get an exercise book, drill a hole

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Speaker 4: to give each of our kids their own little life story.

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Speaker 4: I mean, maybe it's better just holding on to it

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Speaker 2: I love the idea of an exercise Kevin. I think

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there must be a digital way of doing that.

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Speaker 4: And I agree that the old exercise book is pretty

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Speaker 2: That's spoken like by someone who clearly hasn't seen my

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Speaker 2: Hey, thank you so much for that. Have a great weekend,

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Speaker 2: given and we'll catch you very soon. And thank you

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Speaker 5: Jack.

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Speaker 2: Privileged to have been at the inauguration of Nelson Mandela

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Speaker 2: Gary's picked us a note, so Jack, good morning. My

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Gary, I hopefully I'm hoping that they

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Speaker 5: Morning Jack, Can I can I?

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Speaker 7: Can I recommend that you, as a tip invest start

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Speaker 7: investing in fridge magnets.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, Now.

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Speaker 7: If you haven't already got any because you will be

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Speaker 5: Yes, pictures that you have no idea what they're of.

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Speaker 7: Yes, but they look fantastic because your child has done

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I got one of these. I got one

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Speaker 2: of these picture frames where you can kind of hang

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Speaker 2: Have you seen those before? Yeah, they're quite handy, so

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Speaker 2: you sort of can fine it. But yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Some stuff just can't be digitized.

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Speaker 7: I think there needs to be you know, Yeah, there's

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I always I remember this amazing art curator who

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the Blues are up twenty two nil at halftime

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Speaker 7: game for then, given they have to win each game

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Speaker 7: So I think the Blues did well. Their next challenge

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too So Chiefs Crusaders Tonight Crusaders

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Speaker 5: Should be a good one. I think it's a clear

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Speaker 7: I think the game's sold out, the firs time in

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Speaker 7: Whoever wins this I think will pretty much finish top

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Speaker 7: Last night, the Queensland Reds beat the Warritar so the

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Warriors then, so are very close right

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Speaker 7: The world collapsed on the strip, didn't it? In that

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Speaker 7: up this Saint George game tonight is tricky. No one,

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Speaker 4: Should do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so too. Hey, I don't know

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Speaker 2: spent a lot of time curating you The reason I

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Speaker 5: And what a horrible way to do it.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch again soon now. Sporto Andrew Saville Jack love

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Speaker 2: the idea of recording funny things. You could say, I

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Speaker 2: back wonderful memories. Yeah, that's true, Grahams's Jack. My wife

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Speaker 2: that's an excellent idea. And I like recording the funny

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Speaker 2: That is one of the great things about English. Totally

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Speaker 2: Ah. That's Rihanna Reri. She was at the met Gala

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Speaker 2: this week looking glam She announced baby numbers I think, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: She announced that she is pregnant with her third child

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Speaker 9: Hello, we have.

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Speaker 2: Two movies to talk about this morning. Let's begin with

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Speaker 2: one's on Prime Video. We'll have a listened to another

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Speaker 2: simple favor.

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Speaker 3: Emily, how are you here? I'm getting married to old friends,

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Speaker 3: new beginnings and.

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Speaker 10: Not getting poisoned.

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Speaker 2: Dan So the stars Blake Lively and Anna Kendrick. Blake

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Speaker 10: be working with her again. And Andrew Kendrick, who was

433
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Speaker 10: both very dry and sort of slightly sarcastic, both on

434
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Speaker 10: screen and oscreen kind of went ah, yeah, you know,

435
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Speaker 10: I didn't really say anything, which was quite funny. Look,

436
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Speaker 10: this is a sequel to A Simple Favor, which was

437
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Speaker 10: a twenty eighteen comedy that kind of took everybody a

438
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Speaker 10: little bit by surprise. It was a lot of fun,

439
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Speaker 10: but it was also kind of bonkers. It was sort

440
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Speaker 10: of a little bit psychotic and a little bit erotic,

441
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Speaker 10: and I don't think anyone was quite expecting this from

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Speaker 10: these two, but it worked. And Kendrick played Stephanie Smothers,

443
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Speaker 10: and she was a widow and a mummy blogger and

444
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Speaker 10: she kind of gets caught up in this very glamorous

445
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Speaker 10: life of one of her son's friends' mothers and Emily

446
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Speaker 10: played by Blake, and she sort gets caught up and

447
00:24:10,173 --> 00:24:12,933
Speaker 10: it all just dead turns a little bit nuts, and

448
00:24:12,973 --> 00:24:15,893
Speaker 10: there's lots of sordid secrets that come out, murder hookups,

449
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Speaker 10: all sorts of things, and they've obviously decided to return

450
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Speaker 10: back to this little story here. And at this point,

451
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Speaker 10: Stephanie is writing books. She's sort of a bit of

452
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Speaker 10: an experted true crime and solving true crime, and she's

453
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Speaker 10: trying to get on with her life. And then Emily,

454
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Speaker 10: who is wonderfully overdressed as always, saunters back into her life,

455
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Speaker 10: and she's whisked away to Italy to be the matron

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Speaker 10: of honor at Emily's wedding to a mob boss. And

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Speaker 10: then off we kind of go. There's all these sort

458
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Speaker 10: of twists and turns. You know, often, Jack, when I

459
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Speaker 10: talk to you about sequels, I say, do you look

460
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Speaker 10: you know you don't need to have seen the original.

461
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Speaker 10: I think you need to have seen the original, because

462
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Speaker 10: even if you haven't seen the original, this is still

463
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Speaker 10: quite a hard film to keep up with an unset

464
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Speaker 10: what's going. So we're both on both screening on Prime.

465
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Speaker 10: So I watch the first one before you watch the

466
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Speaker 10: second one. It might just make a little bit more sense.

467
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Speaker 10: The vibe is still here. There's this strange connection between

468
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Speaker 10: Emily and Stephanie. It's a bit bonkers, but it's it's

469
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Speaker 10: just all a little bit less, and that's probably because

470
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Speaker 10: we know what to expect. I really love Kendrick. I

471
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Speaker 10: love her sort of snacky, honest narrations through this film,

472
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Speaker 10: everyone else seems to be oblivious to the madness going on,

473
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Speaker 10: and it's almost like she's kind of winking at us

474
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Speaker 10: at the audience, going, I know, isn't this nuts?

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Speaker 6: Isn't this crazy?

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Speaker 10: So I really love her character.

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Speaker 11: But look, the film is probably regardless of sort of

478
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Speaker 11: plot and twists and all my things, this film is

479
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Speaker 11: more about the gorgeous Italian setting, the outrageously good wardrobe,

480
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Speaker 11: and frivolity.

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Speaker 10: You know, this is a sit down on a you know,

482
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Speaker 10: at the end of a busy weekend and just enjoy

483
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Speaker 10: some escapism. Also starts this time around Alison Jane and

484
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Speaker 10: Elizabeth Perkins as well.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very good. So that's another simple favor that's

486
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Speaker 2: on Prime video and next film is showing in cinemas

487
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Speaker 2: at the moment. Let's have a listen to the wedding banquet.

488
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Speaker 2: I have a pro prosil you marry me an LP

489
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Speaker 2: for Liz to grow a bag, right me, my honor.

490
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Speaker 10: We're having a man it's for the cars.

491
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Speaker 12: We're helping to get a couple set together.

492
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Speaker 2: Okay, that's the wedding banquet starring Lily Gladstone. Tell us

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Speaker 2: about it.

494
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Speaker 10: Yes, so this is a film about family expectations, cultural identity, queerness.

495
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Speaker 10: It's really it's solid, it's very well put together. It's

496
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Speaker 10: got a lovely cast, and I like the fact that

497
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Speaker 10: kind of looks at how messy life can be. But

498
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Speaker 10: some people might be going, oh, the wedding banquet. I've

499
00:26:52,173 --> 00:26:54,053
Speaker 10: seen this film before, and yes you have. This is

500
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Speaker 10: a remake of Ang Lee's nineteen ninety three film by

501
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Speaker 10: director Andrew On, and he has worked with the original

502
00:27:01,533 --> 00:27:05,133
Speaker 10: co writer James Seamers to update the story to kind

503
00:27:05,133 --> 00:27:09,253
Speaker 10: of bring it into twenty five. You could say it's

504
00:27:09,333 --> 00:27:12,693
Speaker 10: not as funny as the original, and maybe not as

505
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Speaker 10: emotionally hard hitting as the original, but there are some

506
00:27:17,413 --> 00:27:20,173
Speaker 10: really lovely, sort of subtle laughs to be had here,

507
00:27:20,773 --> 00:27:24,253
Speaker 10: and the film goes out of its way. I suppose

508
00:27:25,333 --> 00:27:27,933
Speaker 10: it's very easy with the situations that you've got going

509
00:27:27,973 --> 00:27:29,853
Speaker 10: on in this film, that you could turn them into,

510
00:27:30,053 --> 00:27:31,893
Speaker 10: you know, you could get easy laughs out of it,

511
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Speaker 10: and in a way, it's almost like the film has

512
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Speaker 10: gone out of its way not to do that. I

513
00:27:36,813 --> 00:27:38,533
Speaker 10: personally would have loved it a little bit more humor,

514
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Speaker 10: because I think the cast is really good and could

515
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Speaker 10: have gone there, but they've kept it quite serious.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 10: The Gladstone, Joan Chen Bao and Yang. They all appear

518
00:27:48,973 --> 00:27:51,453
Speaker 10: in this film, and it kind of captures how society

519
00:27:51,693 --> 00:27:55,133
Speaker 10: has changed since this first film was released, how we've

520
00:27:55,173 --> 00:27:59,893
Speaker 10: become more accepting excuse me, about sexuality and family structures. Right,

521
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Speaker 10: And maybe while the first film spoke to the shame

522
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Speaker 10: of being gay a little, but this one moves the

523
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Speaker 10: story on and at the generations kind of letting that

524
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Speaker 10: shame go. So you've got this loving lesbian couple, You've

525
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Speaker 10: got this gay couple. The lesbian couple want to have

526
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Speaker 10: a baby. The gay couple want to get married, and

527
00:28:17,733 --> 00:28:20,413
Speaker 10: Men needs a green card, and it's all there's all

528
00:28:20,413 --> 00:28:24,053
Speaker 10: these sort of little complications, and so they Men decide

529
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Speaker 10: to marry Angela. So they decide to have a sham

530
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Speaker 10: wedding basically, and this is this is so that everyone

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Speaker 10: can get what they want. You know, Angela can get

532
00:28:33,133 --> 00:28:35,333
Speaker 10: money for an av yes, Men can get a green card.

533
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Speaker 10: But then Men's grandmother comes from Korea, and she comes

534
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Speaker 10: they comes from a very well known Korean family, and

535
00:28:42,573 --> 00:28:45,213
Speaker 10: she expects the wedding banquet and she expects, you know,

536
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Speaker 10: everything to kind of, you know, be perfect Edits not

537
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Speaker 10: quite so much. So yeah, no, it's lovely and it's solid.

538
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Speaker 10: I think I'm going back to that original film, which was,

539
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Speaker 10: you know, such a breakout film for ang Lee and

540
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Speaker 10: so funny and had that sort of emotional element to

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Speaker 10: it as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, no, but pretty good, nice, yeah, right,

543
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Speaker 2: So that's the wedding banquet that showing in cinema is

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Speaker 2: at the moment. Another simple favor is Francisca's first film

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Speaker 2: that's showing on Prime video will have all the deeps

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Speaker 2: minutes on news Talks he'd be no fuss, sticky buns

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Speaker 2: just in time for Mother's Day. These are really really

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Speaker 2: way to treat mum. Tomorrow sixteen to ten.

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Speaker 2: Vy Nicky works out cookers here with us this morning, Gelda, Yeah.

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Speaker 9: What I know.

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Speaker 13: It is indeed food time. I need to I'm also

567
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Speaker 13: standing in a in a fairy terminal about kitchen fairy

568
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Speaker 13: with the result of today's recipe in my handbag.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I come transporting one day ahead.

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Speaker 14: Of Mother's Days.

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Speaker 2: So very good. Okay, it sounds a bit weird. No,

572
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Speaker 2: it doesn't sound weird at all. We love you a

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Speaker 2: bit of in situ. That's fine. If you're not in

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Speaker 2: the kitchen, you're in a faery terminal, and that's it's

575
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Speaker 2: totally fine with us. We're making These are no fast,

576
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Speaker 2: sticky buns, so really simple sticky buns. If you want

577
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Speaker 2: to treat them tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, look, they are, They're absolutely fantastic. This

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Speaker 13: will be my first Mother's Day without my beloved mother.

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Speaker 13: So I decided that I would make one of her

581
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Speaker 13: recipes for our family. And yes, it's her no fuss

582
00:31:01,573 --> 00:31:04,853
Speaker 13: sticky buns. It does still require yeast, which means they

583
00:31:04,893 --> 00:31:07,413
Speaker 13: do still require a little bit of right, but honestly

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Speaker 13: they're super simple. I whipped up a batch last night

585
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Speaker 13: in between watching Ransom Canyon, my latest favorite easy watch.

586
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Speaker 13: I know, yeah, don't judgement, all right, So here's here's

587
00:31:18,053 --> 00:31:21,813
Speaker 13: what I do. I take a round cake tin twenty

588
00:31:21,813 --> 00:31:24,893
Speaker 13: three centimeters or so, line it well with baking paper,

589
00:31:24,933 --> 00:31:26,973
Speaker 13: making sure that it comes up the size, and then

590
00:31:27,013 --> 00:31:28,733
Speaker 13: I kind of make the syrup to go on the

591
00:31:28,733 --> 00:31:30,573
Speaker 13: bottom of the tin, which ends up on the top

592
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Speaker 13: of the buttons. I melt together half a cup of

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Speaker 13: brown sugar, three tablespoons of butter, and four tablespoons of

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Speaker 13: maple syrup and sort of si of that till it

595
00:31:39,213 --> 00:31:42,013
Speaker 13: all all the sugar dissolves their jack, and then pour

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Speaker 13: most of that into the base of the tin.

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Speaker 2: Right, and then let's start on.

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Speaker 13: The buttons and a small jug.

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Speaker 5: We want to.

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Speaker 13: Activate the yeast, so I use two teaspoons of active

601
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Speaker 13: yeast granules and one cup of warm milk. And I

602
00:31:55,813 --> 00:31:59,853
Speaker 13: sometimes think people think warm is really tempered. It's sort

603
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Speaker 13: of just a little bit warmer than tempered, I say,

604
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Speaker 13: And one teaspoon of sugar and mix all of that

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00:32:05,013 --> 00:32:08,653
Speaker 13: together and it should froth after about five to seven minutes.

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00:32:08,693 --> 00:32:12,453
Speaker 13: If it doesn't have any discernible frothing going on, then

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00:32:12,493 --> 00:32:14,453
Speaker 13: really you want to kind of abandon it. And maybe

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Speaker 13: you're yeast as old, or maybe your milk was too

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Speaker 13: hot and it killed the yeast or whatever, because this

610
00:32:19,253 --> 00:32:22,773
Speaker 13: is the beginning of this rising process. But anyway, should

611
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Speaker 13: work out a treat and then in a large bowl,

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Speaker 13: large enough that you can sort of need or mix

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Speaker 13: the mixture in the bowl, put your flour in salt,

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Speaker 13: and I've used three cups of plain flour and I've

615
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Speaker 13: used half a tea spoon of sea salt. A the

616
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Speaker 13: whisk the yeast with one egg. Once that's become frothy,

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Speaker 13: and plan into the dry ingredients. And then Jack's super simple.

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Speaker 13: I just mixed it, mix it all together with a

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Speaker 13: knife with a butter knife, and I just keep mixing

620
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Speaker 13: and mixing and mixing till you've got a lovely, sticky dough.

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Speaker 13: And then once that's all sort of started to come together,

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Speaker 13: you want to add in some butter. And you want

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Speaker 13: to add in about one hundred grams of really soft butter.

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Speaker 13: And that's the hardest part of this recipes. Get butter

625
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Speaker 13: just kind of softened up in this cooler where add

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Speaker 13: it in a tablespoon at a time, just mixing it

627
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Speaker 13: around with that knife of yours until it all sort

628
00:33:13,493 --> 00:33:16,813
Speaker 13: of comes together. Then I just leave that mixture. I

629
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Speaker 13: cover it with a sort of damp tee towel, leave

630
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Speaker 13: it in a really lovely warm place for about sixty minutes,

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Speaker 13: and it should almost double in size. Okay, and now

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Speaker 13: you're ready to make your buttons. Super simple. Roll out

633
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Speaker 13: that dough into a big rectangle about twenty by thirty centimeters.

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Speaker 13: Brush it with some melted butter, maybe two tablespoons of

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Speaker 13: melted butter. Sprinkle over that third of a cup of

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Speaker 13: brown sugar, three teaspoons each of mixed spice and cinnamon.

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Speaker 13: You've mixed those together. Sprinkle that over, and then really

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Speaker 13: add anything you like.

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Speaker 6: I added some.

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Speaker 13: I add some walnut pieces and some raisins, but currants

641
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Speaker 13: would work that sort of thing. Roll it up like

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Speaker 13: you would have pin wheel scorn, and then chop it

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Speaker 13: up into about ten ten little buns and put those

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Speaker 13: on top of that beautiful syrup in your cake tin,

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Speaker 13: cut side up, done, and you just leave that to

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Speaker 13: sort of rise again for just this time about forty

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Speaker 13: five minutes. Whack the oven one hundred and ninety degrees

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Speaker 13: fan bake and bake it for thirty five or forty

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Speaker 13: minutes until they're all sort of golden and lovely. Tack

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Speaker 13: them out of the oven, and then turn them out

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Speaker 13: on a plate so that that so you sort of

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Speaker 13: upside down them, if you know what I mean, so

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Speaker 13: that that syrup is beautiful and glistening on top, and

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Speaker 13: you've got these gorgeous, freshly made, brioshy type buns. They're sticky,

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Speaker 13: they're gorgeous. I always have them with loads and loads

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Speaker 13: of butter on them because I can't resist. And I've

657
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Speaker 13: made mine the day head because that's that's a bit

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Speaker 13: to do tomorrow morning, before this day. So make them

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Speaker 13: today and then tomorrow. Just give them a little.

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Speaker 3: Reheat back in that tin, yeah right.

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Speaker 13: Spray spray the top or and maybe even flick the

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Speaker 13: top with a little bit of water, and that will

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Speaker 13: just freshen the buns up a little bit, and they

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Speaker 13: probably just need about sort of eight minutes back in

665
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Speaker 13: the oven and then syrups will syrupy again. The bread

666
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Speaker 13: component is all beautiful and freshly baked, and they're really

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Speaker 13: lovely thing to have for Mother's Day. I think everyone

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Speaker 13: elsy them with a good cover.

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Speaker 2: Could you make the dough tonight and just leave it

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Speaker 2: until tomorrow morning? So that might be an option too,

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Speaker 2: write Yeah.

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Speaker 13: You absolutely could.

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Speaker 9: You could make it.

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Speaker 13: You could make the dough when you haven't filled it,

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Speaker 13: and you just need to get up a little bit

676
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Speaker 13: early to sort of bring that back to room temperature

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Speaker 13: before you roll it out. You're absolutely right. My last

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Speaker 13: tip for the morning too, is I never cut these

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Speaker 13: buns using a knife because it sort of collapses the

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Speaker 13: spiral effect. I take a little bit of dental floss

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Speaker 13: and a length that you sneak under the roll, and

682
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Speaker 13: then you sort of cross it over and pull it hard.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, get the most amazing cut.

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Speaker 6: It's fun.

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Speaker 2: Oh what a clever idea. Oh that's so good.

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Speaker 13: Yeah Mum taught me that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very very clever. Hey, thank you so much, Nicky.

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Speaker 2: We will let you get on the ferry and catch

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Speaker 2: Viva edip Papa. The chance could be heard before his

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Speaker 2: name was even announced over Saint Peter's Square. Robert Francis

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Speaker 2: Prevos has become the two hundred and sixty seventh Pope,

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Speaker 2: and we'll be do as Leo the fourteenth. Of course,

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Speaker 2: New Zealand's Cardinal John Due is at the Vatican and

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Speaker 2: took part in the conclave that selected Pope Leo, and

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Speaker 2: from Italy. He joins us this morning. Calder John, Welcome to.

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Speaker 5: The show, Cure Jack, thank you very much, thank.

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Speaker 2: You for being with us. First of all, I suppose

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Speaker 2: the obvious question tell us about the new Pope.

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Speaker 15: JACKI he is a very lovely person. He's well educated.

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Speaker 15: He's had great experience. I was born in the United States,

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Speaker 15: but spent quite a long time working as a missionary

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Speaker 15: in Peru, and in recent years has worked here in

764
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Speaker 15: the Vatican and what we call the Congregation for Bishops

765
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Speaker 15: are responsible for bishop's appointments and all sorts of things

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Speaker 15: to do with bishops all around the world. He's very

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Speaker 15: calm and measured. He was very calm when his name

768
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Speaker 15: kept coming up yesterday. Everyone was sort of looking at him,

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Speaker 15: and he was just sitting there with a little smile

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Speaker 15: on his face, and when he was asked for accept

771
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Speaker 15: the election, he just stood up and said in Latin

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Speaker 15: that he did accept. And from there on, really he's just,

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Speaker 15: as I say, just been very natural. He greeted the

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Speaker 15: thousands of people in the square. We had time to

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Speaker 15: greet him ourselves at one stage yesterday afternoon. So a

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Speaker 15: lovely man, and I think we'll do a very good job.

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Speaker 15: Is as totally over fourteenth.

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Speaker 2: This has prepped a funny question, but is it obvious

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Speaker 2: that people want to be pope?

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Speaker 15: No, it's not. And if it was obvious, I don't

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Speaker 15: think he'd get the votes. There was no one who

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Speaker 15: was obviously the area out of one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 15: three in the conclave that you would think actually wanted

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Speaker 15: to decope. I'm quite certain of that. Do you know

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Speaker 15: no one would really look for a role like that

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Speaker 15: for themselves. No one, And I don't think that no.

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Speaker 2: So sorry to interrupt you. No one sort of openly

788
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Speaker 2: campaigning or anything like that.

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Speaker 15: No, no, absolutely not. And it's actually it's not that.

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Speaker 15: It's not allowed as part of to sort of lobby

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Speaker 15: for yourselves at all. It's not permitted.

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Speaker 2: So tell us about your experience of conclave. I know

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Speaker 2: you probably get asked us every day, you know, I

794
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Speaker 2: think many of our listeners will have seen the film,

795
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Speaker 2: But tell us about your experience. What was it like

796
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Speaker 2: to be there for that, you know, for that incredible moment.

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Speaker 15: It was an incredible moment, well more than a moment, actually,

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Speaker 15: the whole sort of process from the time of Francis's death.

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Speaker 15: I got here just a few days after his death

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Speaker 15: and was here in time sort of funeral, and by

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Speaker 15: that stage the meetings of cardinals had begun, and we

802
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Speaker 15: had about ten days of meetings, not necessarily every day,

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Speaker 15: but most of the days between the General and the

804
00:42:56,253 --> 00:42:59,933
Speaker 15: started the conclave. And in those meetings, this is all

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Speaker 15: part of the process. In those meetings we were able

806
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Speaker 15: to anyone had the opportunity to speak, and we're encouraged

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Speaker 15: to speak about the kind of person they thought should

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Speaker 15: be elected as the next pope, the kind of issues

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Speaker 15: that the church is facing today, the issues that the

810
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Speaker 15: pope might need to speak on, speak up about it

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Speaker 15: in terms of world issues. You know, he needs to

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Speaker 15: be someone who's politically astute and as a world leader,

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Speaker 15: as Francis showed us he was so all that was

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Speaker 15: part of the lead up, and that of course was

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Speaker 15: all set in the context obviously of prayer every day,

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Speaker 15: and also included nine days of masses of prayers of

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Speaker 15: mourning for Pope Francis. And then when we moved into

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Speaker 15: the actual conclave, we we all gathered in what's called

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Speaker 15: the Pauline Chapel, very close to the System Chapel, and

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Speaker 15: processed and quite solemnly to the singing of the Litany

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Speaker 15: of the Saints and calling on the saints of the

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Speaker 15: plast to be with us and to guard us, including

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Speaker 15: of course past popes, and then saying a very beautiful

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Speaker 15: Latin him calling on the Spirit of God to lead us,

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Speaker 15: and then the process began. So it was an amazing

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Speaker 15: I found it a very amazing thing to be sitting

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Speaker 15: in the System Chapel looking around at, you know, the

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Speaker 15: beautiful artwork and architecture and thinking what this is what

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Speaker 15: we hear about? It was all very calmly done and

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Speaker 15: very well organized in the way that we wrote a

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Speaker 15: vote on a name I have a little card, and

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Speaker 15: then processed up quite an order of precedence from the

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Speaker 15: times that we had been appointed as cardinals, and of

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Speaker 15: course that took quite some time each each time there

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Speaker 15: was a vote, because there were one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 15: three of us, we saw an oath that we would

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Speaker 15: be truthful, that we would do a vote to the

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Speaker 15: the best of our ability, that we thought this is

839
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Speaker 15: what God was asking of us to do. So it

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Speaker 15: was all set in that context and I very amazing.

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Speaker 15: I think we all found it a very privileged moment.

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Speaker 15: And of course it became clear that the Cardinal Prevos

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Speaker 15: was going to be was getting the numbers. It became

844
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Speaker 15: quite an emotional time. And well, I found it an

845
00:45:48,493 --> 00:45:52,813
Speaker 15: emotional time when he when he accepted and then was

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Speaker 15: led out to a room to be dressed in the

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Speaker 15: in the papal robes. You know, I suddenly had a

848
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Speaker 15: tear in my eye about how emotional the whole thing was,

849
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Speaker 15: and that he came back into the Sistine Chapel, we

850
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Speaker 15: had a little time of prayer together with him, and

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Speaker 15: then we all had the opportunities to go up and

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Speaker 15: greet him, and as it were, sort of reade our

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00:46:21,333 --> 00:46:24,453
Speaker 15: allegiance and so a few words to him. I said

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Speaker 15: to him that I'd had the habit of playing every

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Speaker 15: day for perfluences, and I would continue doing that for him.

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Speaker 15: But then he thanked me, and I think he knows

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Speaker 15: that he needs the prayers of the world. So at

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Speaker 15: a very emotional time. After that, we were we followed

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Speaker 15: him out of the Sistine Chapel and through one of

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Speaker 15: the big, magnificent halls at the Vatican, and he was

861
00:46:50,413 --> 00:46:54,973
Speaker 15: led out onto the central balcony the logier of Saint

862
00:46:55,013 --> 00:46:58,413
Speaker 15: Peter's and some of us were privileged enough to get

863
00:46:58,453 --> 00:47:01,893
Speaker 15: out onto the balconies either side of Saint Peters. And

864
00:47:01,893 --> 00:47:06,213
Speaker 15: that was the most amazing experience to hear the roar

865
00:47:06,453 --> 00:47:09,253
Speaker 15: of the crowd as he as he appeared, and the

866
00:47:09,413 --> 00:47:13,533
Speaker 15: chanting as they started chanting viper, you know, along with the Pope,

867
00:47:15,173 --> 00:47:18,613
Speaker 15: the the two bands at the bottom of it out

868
00:47:18,613 --> 00:47:21,493
Speaker 15: in the St. Peters Square with guards were the air,

869
00:47:21,613 --> 00:47:25,293
Speaker 15: and you know, just a huge crowd of people chanting

870
00:47:25,373 --> 00:47:30,133
Speaker 15: and singing, and then he gave a blessing and said

871
00:47:30,173 --> 00:47:32,933
Speaker 15: a few words. I couldn't quite pick it all up

872
00:47:32,973 --> 00:47:36,133
Speaker 15: because of the echoes, and he was speaking, and he

873
00:47:36,213 --> 00:47:42,213
Speaker 15: spoke in Italian, in Latin, and in Spanish, fluent in

874
00:47:42,253 --> 00:47:45,493
Speaker 15: English too, obviously, but he didn't use English at that stage.

875
00:47:46,173 --> 00:47:49,173
Speaker 15: So he has a very emotional time and in a

876
00:47:49,293 --> 00:47:50,293
Speaker 15: very privileged time.

877
00:47:50,973 --> 00:47:54,053
Speaker 2: It sounds profound, John, That sounds sounds like just an

878
00:47:54,093 --> 00:47:59,293
Speaker 2: extraordinary thing to experience. So when that, when it became

879
00:47:59,333 --> 00:48:02,253
Speaker 2: clear you say that that he had the votes and

880
00:48:02,293 --> 00:48:06,853
Speaker 2: that he had been elected pope? Did the cardinals cheer?

881
00:48:06,933 --> 00:48:09,013
Speaker 2: Do you clap? How does? How does? How does it work?

882
00:48:09,053 --> 00:48:14,533
Speaker 15: In that moment, as it became clear that he had

883
00:48:14,573 --> 00:48:18,493
Speaker 15: the votes, there was immediate applause that he had reached

884
00:48:18,493 --> 00:48:22,773
Speaker 15: that number. The voting hadn't quite finished, but he was acknowledged.

885
00:48:22,773 --> 00:48:26,333
Speaker 15: He stood up and just acknowledged, and then the voting,

886
00:48:26,893 --> 00:48:29,293
Speaker 15: the counting of the votes, and the names of a

887
00:48:29,333 --> 00:48:34,573
Speaker 15: few others were ready out, and then it was clear

888
00:48:34,613 --> 00:48:37,213
Speaker 15: that he had the numbers, that he was elected pope.

889
00:48:37,293 --> 00:48:40,093
Speaker 15: So the Cardinal President, as it were, of the of

890
00:48:40,253 --> 00:48:45,853
Speaker 15: the conclave process, then asked him if he accepted the

891
00:48:46,853 --> 00:48:51,693
Speaker 15: electionist hope, and he just said in Latin except that

892
00:48:51,733 --> 00:48:54,573
Speaker 15: he does accept. And then he was asked what name

893
00:48:54,693 --> 00:48:57,013
Speaker 15: he wanted to be called, and he just said Leo.

894
00:49:00,173 --> 00:49:02,773
Speaker 15: So it's a while since they've been a pope Leo.

895
00:49:03,213 --> 00:49:07,293
Speaker 15: Last one was prot Leo the Great, and then yeah,

896
00:49:07,373 --> 00:49:09,973
Speaker 15: that was he was. He was Pope.

897
00:49:11,493 --> 00:49:13,413
Speaker 2: He's got to have a name ready to go, as

898
00:49:13,413 --> 00:49:16,173
Speaker 2: it were, Yes, and.

899
00:49:16,173 --> 00:49:18,933
Speaker 15: He must have been thinking of that over the large

900
00:49:18,973 --> 00:49:21,533
Speaker 15: you know, the tree, as his name was becoming more

901
00:49:21,573 --> 00:49:25,933
Speaker 15: and more, obviously was thinking of that what he would

902
00:49:25,973 --> 00:49:26,853
Speaker 15: be called, you know.

903
00:49:27,093 --> 00:49:30,173
Speaker 2: And and so John, do you and I know you

904
00:49:30,213 --> 00:49:32,533
Speaker 2: don't make your vote public, and of course we respect that,

905
00:49:32,573 --> 00:49:36,293
Speaker 2: but but do you and the other cardinals talk amongst

906
00:49:36,293 --> 00:49:38,493
Speaker 2: each other about who you're planning to vote for as

907
00:49:38,533 --> 00:49:41,693
Speaker 2: the process unfold? Is that something that happens, you know,

908
00:49:41,813 --> 00:49:45,013
Speaker 2: kind of you know, publicly within the conclave.

909
00:49:46,453 --> 00:49:49,413
Speaker 15: In those in those ten days of meetings, that happens

910
00:49:49,573 --> 00:49:52,773
Speaker 15: more where you might chat and say, what do you

911
00:49:52,813 --> 00:49:54,733
Speaker 15: think of so and so? Or do you think he's

912
00:49:54,773 --> 00:50:01,573
Speaker 15: got the qualities to see what's what what it takes

913
00:50:01,653 --> 00:50:04,493
Speaker 15: today to be pope? And of course some of the

914
00:50:04,573 --> 00:50:06,773
Speaker 15: cardinals you know that better, so you've check a bit

915
00:50:06,813 --> 00:50:10,613
Speaker 15: more with some of them. So you do talk about

916
00:50:10,733 --> 00:50:15,813
Speaker 15: who and obviously it's it's all part of the secrecy

917
00:50:15,573 --> 00:50:18,853
Speaker 15: of the conclave. You do talk about who you think

918
00:50:19,013 --> 00:50:22,213
Speaker 15: might be the right person. And I could just see

919
00:50:22,253 --> 00:50:29,933
Speaker 15: that he was so calm, and calm already was a

920
00:50:29,973 --> 00:50:32,533
Speaker 15: word every time you looked at him. He's just taking

921
00:50:32,613 --> 00:50:36,893
Speaker 15: everything just so gradually, and from what I knew of him,

922
00:50:37,013 --> 00:50:38,893
Speaker 15: I thought he was going to be very good.

923
00:50:40,573 --> 00:50:43,253
Speaker 2: You know, we and those of us who work in

924
00:50:43,293 --> 00:50:46,533
Speaker 2: politics have noted that of late, there are a few

925
00:50:46,573 --> 00:50:49,893
Speaker 2: elections that have been influenced by Donald Trump. You know,

926
00:50:50,013 --> 00:50:52,933
Speaker 2: look at Canada and Australia within the last couple of weeks.

927
00:50:53,733 --> 00:50:55,813
Speaker 2: Do you think there's any argument that this is a

928
00:50:55,853 --> 00:50:58,493
Speaker 2: Trump election in a way or a Trump influenced election.

929
00:51:00,133 --> 00:51:05,653
Speaker 15: Not at all, absolutely not, no, No, it's the cardinals themselves. No,

930
00:51:05,853 --> 00:51:06,373
Speaker 15: not at all.

931
00:51:06,853 --> 00:51:09,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, but obviously there are so many things they need

932
00:51:09,533 --> 00:51:13,253
Speaker 2: to consider, so so so John, when you're when you're

933
00:51:13,253 --> 00:51:17,013
Speaker 2: there again, this might seem silly, but for those of

934
00:51:17,053 --> 00:51:20,253
Speaker 2: us on the outside, just such a fascinating process. Can

935
00:51:20,293 --> 00:51:22,933
Speaker 2: I ask just a couple of really simple things, and

936
00:51:23,053 --> 00:51:26,133
Speaker 2: especially in those meetings beforehand and throughout the whole process.

937
00:51:26,973 --> 00:51:27,733
Speaker 2: Where do you stay?

938
00:51:27,973 --> 00:51:28,013
Speaker 8: So?

939
00:51:28,373 --> 00:51:31,413
Speaker 2: Where are you sleeping? What do you eat? And what

940
00:51:31,453 --> 00:51:33,453
Speaker 2: do you speak? What language do you speak?

941
00:51:35,733 --> 00:51:35,973
Speaker 5: Well?

942
00:51:36,053 --> 00:51:39,733
Speaker 15: Okay, where do we start? I stay at a at

943
00:51:39,733 --> 00:51:44,293
Speaker 15: a Vatican's kind of a Vatican guest house. Usually stay there,

944
00:51:44,333 --> 00:51:48,293
Speaker 15: which is just outside the Vatican that belongs to the Vatican,

945
00:51:50,933 --> 00:51:53,373
Speaker 15: right at the end of the big street that leads

946
00:51:53,453 --> 00:51:56,573
Speaker 15: right up to Saint Peter's. I stay there, and during

947
00:51:56,613 --> 00:51:59,893
Speaker 15: those days of meetings, I had to walk up big

948
00:51:59,973 --> 00:52:05,133
Speaker 15: long Street every day and battle with journalists as we

949
00:52:05,253 --> 00:52:07,493
Speaker 15: tried to get into the into the hall we were

950
00:52:07,493 --> 00:52:10,653
Speaker 15: going to the meetings, and that was a couple of times,

951
00:52:10,813 --> 00:52:12,733
Speaker 15: a couple of times a day. We met through the

952
00:52:12,813 --> 00:52:15,853
Speaker 15: morning and then had a break, went back to our

953
00:52:15,893 --> 00:52:20,133
Speaker 15: places for lunch, and then started again. Sort of mid

954
00:52:20,173 --> 00:52:24,573
Speaker 15: us nuns till seventy them, so stay at places like that,

955
00:52:24,693 --> 00:52:29,133
Speaker 15: Some stay at if they belonged to a religious order.

956
00:52:31,413 --> 00:52:34,093
Speaker 15: Leo is an Augustinian, so they had a place here.

957
00:52:34,213 --> 00:52:37,253
Speaker 15: So some august Yes, which would stay at the Jesuit

958
00:52:37,293 --> 00:52:41,293
Speaker 15: place in different places. And then we had decided as

959
00:52:41,413 --> 00:52:43,453
Speaker 15: part of the meeting, we decided on the date of

960
00:52:43,813 --> 00:52:46,373
Speaker 15: the start of the conclave, which was the seventh of May.

961
00:52:47,333 --> 00:52:51,213
Speaker 15: So on the sixth of May we were all asked

962
00:52:51,213 --> 00:52:53,813
Speaker 15: to come to this place called Sump de Marta, which

963
00:52:53,853 --> 00:52:57,733
Speaker 15: is right in the Vatican and where Francis actually lived.

964
00:52:58,733 --> 00:53:04,413
Speaker 15: And Saint de Marta is a guest house where many

965
00:53:04,493 --> 00:53:07,693
Speaker 15: people who work in the Vatican live here permanently. They

966
00:53:07,693 --> 00:53:09,973
Speaker 15: are all asked to move out while we come in

967
00:53:10,093 --> 00:53:14,053
Speaker 15: sort of conclave. Ah, And so Sant Demata is completely

968
00:53:16,053 --> 00:53:21,773
Speaker 15: dedicated to a conclave over these few days, right, And

969
00:53:21,813 --> 00:53:24,013
Speaker 15: I'm still here at the moment. I will move out

970
00:53:24,093 --> 00:53:27,213
Speaker 15: later today. And it's within the Vatican. We were able

971
00:53:27,253 --> 00:53:29,893
Speaker 15: to walk over to the system chapel if we wanted to.

972
00:53:29,933 --> 00:53:32,973
Speaker 15: There were minibuses for those who didn't want to walk over.

973
00:53:34,253 --> 00:53:37,973
Speaker 15: What do we eat same as anybody? Were any beautiful

974
00:53:38,013 --> 00:53:38,813
Speaker 15: Italian foods?

975
00:53:40,093 --> 00:53:44,053
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, you know, like I said at the start,

976
00:53:44,093 --> 00:53:46,053
Speaker 2: it must be, you know, be a profound experience to

977
00:53:46,093 --> 00:53:48,373
Speaker 2: be there for for what is a kind of you know,

978
00:53:49,893 --> 00:53:53,253
Speaker 2: indisputably a significant historical moment like that, and to be

979
00:53:54,253 --> 00:53:59,213
Speaker 2: the only representative from New Zealand in that conclave. So finally, John,

980
00:53:59,933 --> 00:54:01,893
Speaker 2: what shall we expect from this pope? Do you think,

981
00:54:02,253 --> 00:54:04,293
Speaker 2: knowing him as you do and having had a couple

982
00:54:04,333 --> 00:54:06,893
Speaker 2: of moments and knowing the kinds of conversationations that have

983
00:54:06,933 --> 00:54:10,813
Speaker 2: happened behind closed doors, what do you think the rest

984
00:54:10,813 --> 00:54:12,773
Speaker 2: of the world can expect from Pope Leo?

985
00:54:14,973 --> 00:54:19,453
Speaker 15: I do believe that he will. While we were very

986
00:54:19,573 --> 00:54:26,133
Speaker 15: clear that we weren't voting or looking for a copy

987
00:54:26,173 --> 00:54:29,413
Speaker 15: of frances I do believe that he will continue some

988
00:54:29,573 --> 00:54:35,093
Speaker 15: of Francis's initiatives which were important for the Church and

989
00:54:35,333 --> 00:54:42,253
Speaker 15: for the world, and he will immediately go into conversations

990
00:54:42,453 --> 00:54:47,733
Speaker 15: with some of the Vatican cardinals, in particular to look

991
00:54:47,773 --> 00:54:53,173
Speaker 15: at the kind of things that they believe needs to

992
00:54:53,173 --> 00:54:56,453
Speaker 15: be addressed. He will come up with his own issues

993
00:54:56,533 --> 00:54:59,733
Speaker 15: as Francis did, and put some issues on the world stage,

994
00:54:59,773 --> 00:55:04,853
Speaker 15: for example human trafficking and climate change and the point

995
00:55:04,893 --> 00:55:08,733
Speaker 15: of refugees. You know, he might come up with something

996
00:55:08,773 --> 00:55:12,733
Speaker 15: else which is of international significance and which is to

997
00:55:12,773 --> 00:55:17,333
Speaker 15: do with people's lives. Yeah, it might surprise us with

998
00:55:17,813 --> 00:55:19,373
Speaker 15: as Francist Di dif from time.

999
00:55:19,253 --> 00:55:21,573
Speaker 2: To time, Yeah, when do you get to come home?

1000
00:55:22,453 --> 00:55:23,733
Speaker 15: And I was saying, it's a little it was a

1001
00:55:23,773 --> 00:55:26,093
Speaker 15: little bit difficult because we didn't know how long the

1002
00:55:26,253 --> 00:55:28,813
Speaker 15: concave would take and when you made a book to

1003
00:55:28,853 --> 00:55:32,493
Speaker 15: ticket for. So I heard this morning that the official

1004
00:55:32,533 --> 00:55:37,293
Speaker 15: inauguration of Leo is on the eighteenth of May, So

1005
00:55:37,333 --> 00:55:40,173
Speaker 15: I will stay for that. It's a little distance away

1006
00:55:40,213 --> 00:55:43,293
Speaker 15: that I've got no great urgency to need to get home,

1007
00:55:43,813 --> 00:55:46,133
Speaker 15: So I'll stay for that, and then make arrangements to

1008
00:55:46,173 --> 00:55:49,893
Speaker 15: come home after the organation or inauguration on the eighteenth.

1009
00:55:50,213 --> 00:55:53,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well, look, thank you again for spending time

1010
00:55:53,253 --> 00:55:55,973
Speaker 2: with us. We really appreciate it. Good lucky week and

1011
00:55:55,973 --> 00:55:57,933
Speaker 2: a half or so, and you will look forward to

1012
00:55:57,973 --> 00:55:58,733
Speaker 2: seeing you in your bank.

1013
00:55:59,573 --> 00:56:01,173
Speaker 15: Thanks very much, Jack, all the best.

1014
00:56:01,973 --> 00:56:04,733
Speaker 2: Just so good to be speaking with Cardinal John Due

1015
00:56:05,093 --> 00:56:07,853
Speaker 2: after a pretty amazing couple of weeks, and it sounds

1016
00:56:07,853 --> 00:56:10,253
Speaker 2: like a pretty impressive couple of weeks still to come

1017
00:56:10,653 --> 00:56:13,293
Speaker 2: live with us from Italy. This morning, right now, it

1018
00:56:13,413 --> 00:56:15,773
Speaker 2: is twenty four minutes past ten. You're Jack Tame. This

1019
00:56:15,853 --> 00:56:16,453
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1020
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1025
00:56:27,533 --> 00:56:29,813
Speaker 2: Twenty six minute past ten on News talks 'B with

1026
00:56:29,893 --> 00:56:33,493
Speaker 2: Jack Tame. So we have a pretty busy or thirty

1027
00:56:33,533 --> 00:56:36,933
Speaker 2: four minutes or so this hour. We're going to take

1028
00:56:36,933 --> 00:56:39,453
Speaker 2: a look at Bill Gates and his announcement this week Bactually,

1029
00:56:39,493 --> 00:56:41,253
Speaker 2: if you if you missed it, he came out and

1030
00:56:41,293 --> 00:56:44,333
Speaker 2: said that he does not want to die rich. So

1031
00:56:44,373 --> 00:56:47,053
Speaker 2: it's his plan over the next twenty years between twenty

1032
00:56:47,133 --> 00:56:50,013
Speaker 2: forty five, between now and twenty twenty forty five to

1033
00:56:50,093 --> 00:56:52,373
Speaker 2: give away all of his money. So the Bill and

1034
00:56:52,453 --> 00:56:54,653
Speaker 2: Melinda Gates Foundation is going to give away all of

1035
00:56:54,733 --> 00:56:57,133
Speaker 2: its money. At the moment they kind of, you know,

1036
00:56:57,173 --> 00:57:00,253
Speaker 2: they they're kind of spending into perpetuity. But night they're

1037
00:57:00,253 --> 00:57:02,413
Speaker 2: going to give it all away. The same with his

1038
00:57:02,493 --> 00:57:05,293
Speaker 2: personal wealth, going to give it all away. And it's

1039
00:57:05,333 --> 00:57:08,173
Speaker 2: actually really complish to try and do that. So our

1040
00:57:08,213 --> 00:57:10,533
Speaker 2: textbook's going to be with us very shortly with the

1041
00:57:10,573 --> 00:57:13,773
Speaker 2: plan as it stands for Bill and his billions as

1042
00:57:13,773 --> 00:57:16,133
Speaker 2: well as that. We're in the garden and Rude climb

1043
00:57:16,133 --> 00:57:19,333
Speaker 2: Pass is talking cluster flies this morning, which I know.

1044
00:57:20,053 --> 00:57:23,053
Speaker 2: Those are the ones that kind of go to like

1045
00:57:23,213 --> 00:57:25,013
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1046
00:57:25,053 --> 00:57:26,213
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1047
00:57:26,253 --> 00:57:27,653
Speaker 2: and then, and you go in and they kind of

1048
00:57:27,653 --> 00:57:30,973
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1049
00:57:31,013 --> 00:57:33,533
Speaker 2: between those and different sorts of flies. Anyway, he's gonna

1050
00:57:34,133 --> 00:57:35,893
Speaker 2: hopefully give us some tips on getting rid of those

1051
00:57:35,893 --> 00:57:37,813
Speaker 2: at our place very shortly. Right now. The it's twenty

1052
00:57:37,853 --> 00:57:41,253
Speaker 2: eight past ten, which means it's screen time time. Tara

1053
00:57:41,333 --> 00:57:43,173
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1054
00:57:43,253 --> 00:57:46,693
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1055
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1056
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1057
00:57:52,813 --> 00:57:56,053
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1058
00:57:56,093 --> 00:58:00,613
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1059
00:58:00,653 --> 00:58:01,973
Speaker 3: And Charlie is.

1060
00:58:01,973 --> 00:58:05,133
Speaker 12: Not your typical TV detective. She works in a casino

1061
00:58:05,173 --> 00:58:08,933
Speaker 12: in Las Vegas, and she has this unusual ability and

1062
00:58:08,933 --> 00:58:11,813
Speaker 12: that she can always tell when someone is lying. And

1063
00:58:11,853 --> 00:58:14,773
Speaker 12: in season one, her best friend is murdered and Charlie

1064
00:58:14,853 --> 00:58:18,413
Speaker 12: uses her special lie detection skills to work out who

1065
00:58:18,453 --> 00:58:21,813
Speaker 12: the murderer was. But when her own life becomes in danger,

1066
00:58:21,853 --> 00:58:23,853
Speaker 12: she has to go on the run. And so every

1067
00:58:23,973 --> 00:58:27,093
Speaker 12: episode of poker Face is its own self contained murder

1068
00:58:27,133 --> 00:58:29,493
Speaker 12: mystery with different characters. It's one of those case of

1069
00:58:29,533 --> 00:58:33,253
Speaker 12: the Week shows, and Charlie is continually on the run

1070
00:58:33,333 --> 00:58:36,693
Speaker 12: across America trying to escape these crime bosses, and she

1071
00:58:36,813 --> 00:58:39,933
Speaker 12: keeps stumbling over these very strange crimes that only she

1072
00:58:40,133 --> 00:58:43,093
Speaker 12: can help to solve. And so it's having fun with

1073
00:58:43,173 --> 00:58:46,733
Speaker 12: that traditional crime thriller setup. It's got this great retro

1074
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Speaker 12: seventies eighties feel to it. It's funny, it's stylish, and

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Speaker 12: because each episode has different characters, it means the show

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Speaker 12: can tap into this amazing list of guest stars everyone

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Speaker 12: in season two, from Melanielynsky to Cynthia Arriva to Steve Bruscemi.

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Speaker 12: And I really like it because it's a crime drama

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Speaker 12: that doesn't take itself too seriously and it's just something

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Speaker 12: light and easy to put on and just be entertained by.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, that's poker Face Steven z Plus on Disney

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Speaker 2: Plus Suspect.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, this is a new four part British drama that's

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Speaker 12: just come to Disney Plus. It stars Russell Toby and

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Speaker 12: Emily Mortimer and it's retaelling the events around the death

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Speaker 12: of Jean Charles Minionzez in London back in July two

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Speaker 12: thousand and five. And John Charles was from Brazil. He

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00:59:31,453 --> 00:59:34,213
Speaker 12: was working as an electrician in London when he was

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Speaker 12: mistaken by police as a terrorist and he was completely innocent,

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Speaker 12: but he was shot by police as he boarded the

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Speaker 12: tube on his way to work. And this drama looks

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Speaker 12: at the events before and after the shooting, and it's

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00:59:45,413 --> 00:59:48,853
Speaker 12: almost a drama of two different parts. The first half

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00:59:48,893 --> 00:59:52,213
Speaker 12: covers the July terrorist attacks in London, the bombings on

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Speaker 12: the Tube and the events that led up to the shooting,

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Speaker 12: and it really builds up that atmosphere of fear and

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Speaker 12: panic and chaos. And the last two episodes are about

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Speaker 12: the aftermath of the shooting and the police response, the

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Speaker 12: sort of the inquiries into the mistakes they made and

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Speaker 12: the misinformation, and it really holds the police accountable for

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Speaker 12: what they did. And so that half the show felt

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Speaker 12: quite different and a lot more focused. And I think

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Speaker 12: this is covering a lot of ground to give the

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Speaker 12: whole picture. So it's not perfect. It's not always an

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Speaker 12: easy watch, but it is very compelling. I watched all

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Speaker 12: four episodes in one something yesterday. It's well acted and

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Speaker 12: it's one of those dramas that will shock you and

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01:00:28,293 --> 01:00:30,093
Speaker 12: make you mad and sad all at once.

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Speaker 2: Oh nice, Cool, that's Suspect. That's on Disney Plus on

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Speaker 2: Apple TV, plus another season of a show I love

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Speaker 2: long Way Home.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, a new travel show with some old friends. This

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01:00:40,973 --> 01:00:44,133
Speaker 12: is the latest travel documentary series from Scottish actor Ewan

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Speaker 12: McGregor and his best friend Charlie Boorman, who over the

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Speaker 12: past twenty years they've made several TV shows about riding

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01:00:52,013 --> 01:00:54,493
Speaker 12: motorbikes around the world together. It started with long Way

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Speaker 12: Round in two thousand and four, which was then riding

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Speaker 12: from London to New York. There was long Way Down,

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Speaker 12: which was going through Africa, and then most recently long

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Speaker 12: Way Up through South America. And this week we got

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Speaker 12: long Way Home Home, which is you and Charlie jumping

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Speaker 12: on a couple of vintage motorbikes and riding through Europe.

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Speaker 12: They start in Scotland. They are going right up through

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Speaker 12: Scandinavia up to the Optic Circle and then back down

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Speaker 12: through Europe. It's about ten thousand miles all up, and

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Speaker 12: this is just a very mellow, soothing trip with two

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Speaker 12: best mates who are living their best lives on these

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Speaker 12: old bikes. So they're a lot older and wiser than

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Speaker 12: the first time they did this, which gives them a

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Speaker 12: different perspective on things. And it's almost like a slow

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Speaker 12: TV show.

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Speaker 2: There's two episodes.

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Speaker 12: It's not in any hurry. And because it's an Apple show,

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Speaker 12: you know you've got these beautiful aerial shots of them

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Speaker 12: riding through Europe. It's just a gorgeous show to watch

1136
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Speaker 12: and one just to kind of relax into.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Nice, really looking forward to that. Thanks Tara. That's Long

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Speaker 2: Way Home. It's on Apple TV plus, Suspects on Disney

1140
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Speaker 2: Plus and on TV and Z plus, poker Face. Everything's

1141
01:01:57,693 --> 01:02:01,253
Speaker 2: a plus, isn't it. My goodness, all those shows are

1142
01:02:01,253 --> 01:02:03,213
Speaker 2: beyond the news talks 'db website as well. If you

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01:02:03,253 --> 01:02:05,413
Speaker 2: want to watch along at home. Thank you for your feedback,

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Speaker 2: Jack a greater if you really enjoyed that. Jack, I'm Catholic,

1145
01:02:08,253 --> 01:02:10,693
Speaker 2: never sick of listening to how the conclaves work. It's

1146
01:02:10,733 --> 01:02:13,453
Speaker 2: a very very old tradition. How about the smoke, very

1147
01:02:13,453 --> 01:02:15,933
Speaker 2: exciting and of course the next pope, thank you for

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Speaker 2: that ninety ninety two. I was going to be very cheeky.

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Speaker 2: I one last question, just I do find the logistics

1150
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Speaker 2: of it all fascinating. I wonder because the cardinals will

1151
01:02:24,573 --> 01:02:27,053
Speaker 2: wear those robes. I wonder as the you know, the

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01:02:27,093 --> 01:02:29,573
Speaker 2: conclave can go for ages. Is there a special process

1153
01:02:29,573 --> 01:02:31,613
Speaker 2: for like dry cleaning and that kind of thing. Well,

1154
01:02:31,693 --> 01:02:33,973
Speaker 2: I'm being one hundred percent serious. I would love to know.

1155
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Speaker 2: You can send us a message If you like, you

1156
01:02:36,253 --> 01:02:38,533
Speaker 2: can also email me Jack at Newstalks EDB dot co

1157
01:02:38,733 --> 01:02:40,973
Speaker 2: dot Nz twenty seven to eleven.

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Speaker 3: Getting your weekends started.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday Morning with Jack team on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 5: This is colle A.

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Speaker 2: So this is Chaos and the CBD. Not literally, it's

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01:03:18,613 --> 01:03:22,293
Speaker 2: the name of the group. They're actually brothers Louis and

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01:03:22,333 --> 01:03:25,693
Speaker 2: Ben Helica hale Ley started making music but age has

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01:03:25,733 --> 01:03:28,453
Speaker 2: got like two thousand and eight. But they have flown

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01:03:28,493 --> 01:03:31,613
Speaker 2: incredibly under the radar, which is funny because or in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand at the very least, which is funny because

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Speaker 2: they're honestly one of our biggest international exports at the moment.

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Speaker 2: So these days Louis and Ben Chaos and CBD are

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Speaker 2: based in London. They've been there for about a decade

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Speaker 2: or so, and they work on the kind of club

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Speaker 2: scene throughout Europe, you know, as chances are you probably

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Speaker 2: hear them playing in Ibiza or some of the UK's

1173
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Speaker 2: big house and underground clubs. What's crazy about them, though,

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Speaker 2: is that despite having made music together for quite a

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Speaker 2: long time now and being so in demand, Chaos and

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Speaker 2: the CBD have never curated their beats into an album

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Speaker 2: format before until now, Until now. That's what they've just done,

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Speaker 2: and it has a whole heap of Keyweek inspiration going

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Speaker 2: into it, so it's not quite as like Pumped Up

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Speaker 2: and Clubby as what they've released previously. But we're going

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Speaker 2: to have a bit of a listen this morning. Our

1182
01:04:20,733 --> 01:04:23,013
Speaker 2: music review Atestelle is going to be in before midday.

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Speaker 2: She'll pick out a couple of songs to play for

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Speaker 2: you from Chaos and the CBD, so you can have

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Speaker 2: a bit of a listen now. Texpert is in next

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Speaker 2: it's twenty three to eleven on News Talks.

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Speaker 1: He'd be putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the

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Speaker 1: mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 16: The third year in a row, the New Zealand Rugby

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Speaker 16: Union's lost money, what's the plan? Mark Robinson is the

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Speaker 16: inz our boss. When does you stop losing money?

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Speaker 15: Well another question could be, you know when we said.

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Speaker 16: Out how about we do all my question, when do

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Speaker 16: you stop losing money? Where I was working to order

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Speaker 16: a break even or better position replacement for any awsome

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Speaker 16: terms of dolls.

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Speaker 15: Look, the properties of different aren't mat Actually.

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Speaker 16: Have anybody that you can announce this year?

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Speaker 3: Well that's what we're working on, and we're working on

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Speaker 3: so you don't.

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Speaker 16: I'm just trying to work out how is to get

1202
01:05:04,493 --> 01:05:06,173
Speaker 16: an international name to get on the front of an

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Speaker 16: All Jersey and whether or not it's slim pickings.

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Speaker 5: Out there and is really strong.

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Speaker 16: Back Monday from six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 16: the Rain drove of the Larne News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two eleven. Bill Gates says he'll go broke to

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Speaker 2: make the earth better. I'm not sure that Bill Gates

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Speaker 2: definition of broke is the same as my definition of broke,

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Speaker 2: but our Textbert Paul Stenhouse is here with the details.

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Speaker 14: Gold to Paul, Yeah, when you're the fifth richest person

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Speaker 14: in the world, one percent of your fortune that you'll

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Speaker 14: be left with is still quite a large sum of

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Speaker 14: money pack but he plans to give away ninety nine

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Speaker 14: percent of it over the next twenty years. So he's

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Speaker 14: got a foundation. You've probably heard of it, the Gates Foundation.

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Speaker 14: He's already pumped one hundred billion dollars into that foundation,

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Speaker 14: which has been doing some really incredible things around health

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Speaker 14: and development of poorer nations around the world. But he

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Speaker 14: wants to basically pour everything into it. And wants them

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Speaker 14: to go all out.

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Speaker 3: He does not.

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Speaker 14: Want the foundation to be around for a long time.

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Speaker 14: In fact, he has given it a date that it

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Speaker 14: will close. He said, December thirty one, twenty forty five.

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Speaker 14: It needs to be gone. This is not going to

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Speaker 14: be a legacy thing. I want my legacy to be

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Speaker 14: spending the money, not continuing it on. So they expect

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Speaker 14: to be spending with his fortune kind of appreciating over

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Speaker 14: the next twenty years and whatnot, another two hundred billion

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Speaker 14: dollars on three things, which I think these three goals

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Speaker 14: are pretty cool.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: The first one, they want no mum or child or

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Speaker 14: baby to die of a preventable disease. They want the

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Speaker 14: next generation to grow up in a world without deadly

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Speaker 14: infectious diseases. And thirdly, they want to bring hundreds of

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Speaker 14: millions of additional people out of poverty and put countries

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Speaker 14: on a path to prosperity. I think that's something we

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Speaker 14: can get behind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, in principle, there's always this kind

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Speaker 2: of ethical debate, right, like, is it is it a

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01:06:58,413 --> 01:07:00,293
Speaker 2: bit of no? Well, I mean is it? You know,

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01:07:00,373 --> 01:07:03,013
Speaker 2: should and I mean Bill Gates has leaned into this before,

1245
01:07:03,053 --> 01:07:06,733
Speaker 2: you know, should billionaires be allowed to exist? Should should

1246
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Speaker 2: it be on Bill Gates and his philanthropy and a

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Speaker 2: foundation that carries his name to be doing this stuff?

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Speaker 2: Or should global governments be doing this? I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I necessarily have an answer to that.

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Speaker 14: Okay, Can I give you one? Can I give you

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Speaker 14: one argument against that?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah.

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Speaker 14: They have spent in a way that no other agency

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Speaker 14: or organization has been able to. They have been able

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Speaker 14: to spend and focus resources to eradicate polio from Africa.

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Speaker 2: No, it's amazing.

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Speaker 14: What an incredible success story.

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Speaker 2: None. Well yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, Well, I think

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Speaker 2: you probably don't hear about the UN successes in quite

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01:07:44,053 --> 01:07:45,613
Speaker 2: the same way as you hear about their failures. But

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Speaker 2: I take your point, And I mean it's a classic

1262
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Speaker 2: like who's more efficient the private citizen or a government? Right,

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Speaker 2: That's the kind of thing. And I suppose the fact

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Speaker 2: that the foundation is not going to be existing into perpetuity,

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Speaker 2: you know, it does make a difference in that equation.

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Speaker 2: So when he says he's going to like give it

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Speaker 2: all away, what does it mean for his personal wealth?

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Speaker 2: So the foundation is going to close, but Bill's still

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Speaker 2: going to have a pretty nice place, right, He's not

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01:08:09,093 --> 01:08:12,213
Speaker 2: going to be kicking it in a cold, leaky, two

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Speaker 2: bedroom rental.

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Speaker 9: Oh, you know, he'll be fine.

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Speaker 14: He's going to have, like, you know what, something close

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Speaker 14: to a billion bucks probably still is one.

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Speaker 2: Percent okay, Yeah, he's not going to be dying broke. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's not going.

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Speaker 14: To be dying broke. Maybe you know, it's.

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01:08:25,933 --> 01:08:27,693
Speaker 2: All relative, isn't it. Yeah, but I do.

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Speaker 14: I do like that he's just pledging to.

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Speaker 2: Give it away, Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: He quoted in his blog where he talked about it

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01:08:33,133 --> 01:08:35,973
Speaker 14: Andrew Carnegie's line. He says, who said the man who

1284
01:08:36,053 --> 01:08:39,133
Speaker 14: dies this rich dies disgraced, so he doesn't want to

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Speaker 14: be disgraced.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that is that is pretty cool. Yeah, no, I

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01:08:42,893 --> 01:08:45,093
Speaker 2: like it too. At the very least, Bill Gates always

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Speaker 2: makes me think with the stuff, Ah, it's You're going

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Speaker 2: to be very interesting to see how this unfolds and

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Speaker 2: how they go about spending that money, because honestly, it's

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Speaker 2: pretty challenging to actually try and find causes where you're

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Speaker 2: not just burning money, where you're still you know, using

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Speaker 2: it in a productive and purposeful way. I think will

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Speaker 2: be a real challenge. Thanks Paul, appreciate your time, of course,

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01:09:04,813 --> 01:09:07,973
Speaker 2: textbit paul' stenhouse this morning. I'll get to moorrow your

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01:09:07,973 --> 01:09:09,933
Speaker 2: feedback in a few minutes. Ninety two ninety two if

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Speaker 2: you want to send us a message this morning. Right now,

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Speaker 2: it's sixteen to eleven Our Master Somalier with his pick

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Speaker 2: for the week.

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Speaker 3: Next a little bit of way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and beepret

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Speaker 1: dot codt NZ for high quality supplements used Talks'd.

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Speaker 2: Be the only money governments have is money they take

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01:09:28,133 --> 01:09:30,733
Speaker 2: off hard working people. I'd much rather Bill Gates pay

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01:09:30,773 --> 01:09:33,253
Speaker 2: for it than the government steals my hard earned money,

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01:09:33,253 --> 01:09:35,693
Speaker 2: says Ralph. Well, I don't think. Yeah, I'm not suggesting

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Speaker 2: the government steals your money, Ralph, I expose the question

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Speaker 2: is whether or not having a system that allows an

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Speaker 2: individual to accumulate two hundred billion dollars two hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: million dollars and the kind of interests of our species.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I necessarily have an answer you

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Speaker 2: sa nover that, but thank you for that. Fourteen to

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Speaker 2: eleven Our Master Somalia. Cameron Douglas is here this morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, you were the Decantor World Wine

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Speaker 2: Awards of all places, So what are the Decanta World

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Speaker 2: Wine Awards.

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01:10:04,573 --> 01:10:08,613
Speaker 17: The Decanton World Wine Awards is the largest wine competition

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Speaker 17: in the world. It's been going for thirty years. And

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Speaker 17: my job is the regional chair for the New Zealand

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Speaker 17: Wine Selections, so I chair a panel and we get

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Speaker 17: to take about three hundred and eighty wines from New

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Speaker 17: Zealand over five days and find the best. So it's

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Speaker 17: a wonderful competition and a huge privilege to be able

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Speaker 17: to represent New Zealand at this awards.

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Speaker 2: Not a bad gig for you, Cameron, Let's see, Honust.

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Speaker 2: I mean there'll be a few more than a few

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Speaker 2: people burning with envy this morning, I think.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 17: And I also get to be in London, which is great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, ah, very good. Will you pick for us

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Speaker 2: this weekend? Is Anudorf Titty Teddy Pinot gree for about

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Speaker 2: twenty seven dollars, So tell us about this wine.

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Speaker 17: Well. Nudoff is a brand that has certainly gone with

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Speaker 17: respect over the last forty years in New Zealand, and

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Speaker 17: that comes from a place in Mounts in the Motory

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Speaker 17: Hills where there is a huge amount of sunshine. They've

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Speaker 17: got great drainage in the soil. And because pinogrea is

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Speaker 17: a semi aromatic grape variety, it gives us this sort

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01:11:17,053 --> 01:11:20,333
Speaker 17: of wonderful draw when you first smell the wine and

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Speaker 17: intrigue and it makes you go, hmm, I wonder what

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Speaker 17: the swine's all about. And so you smell it a

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01:11:26,613 --> 01:11:29,453
Speaker 17: bit more and you taste it and you go, now

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Speaker 17: I'm getting it. It's got all of this sort of

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01:11:31,613 --> 01:11:38,173
Speaker 17: Asian pear red apple even brown and bosque pear flavors.

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Speaker 17: And for some people they get a little bit of

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01:11:39,733 --> 01:11:41,493
Speaker 17: quint paste as it tastes in.

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Speaker 15: There as well.

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Speaker 17: And one of the distinctive things about Nelson wines, or

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Speaker 17: two distinctive things, is great natural acidity and the white

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01:11:51,733 --> 01:11:55,853
Speaker 17: spice component that comes through in penigree that's made really

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Speaker 17: well as a reflection of sight and vine age. So

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Speaker 17: this is a really delicious wine for people to get

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Speaker 17: their lips around.

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Speaker 2: Superb. So what would you eat with this? Do you think?

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Speaker 17: Well, I've had you know. One of food pairing is

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Speaker 17: a hobby of mine, and what I found seems to

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Speaker 17: work best with wines like pino gree is a just

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Speaker 17: drink it on its own, but if you are going

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Speaker 17: to have food with it, then think then foods like

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Speaker 17: this richer white flesh sashimi. So if you have snapper

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Speaker 17: sashimi and pinogree, it works really really well. If you're

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Speaker 17: not into raw seafood, then something like a Waldorf salad

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Speaker 17: that's got a slightly creamy dressing to it and fresh

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Speaker 17: walnuts and pinogreet actually work rather well together, or something

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Speaker 17: like flounder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yep, yeah, okay, And tell us about the vintage,

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Speaker 2: because twenty twenty four was a pretty stellar season for

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Speaker 2: you know, for vineyards right across the country, right.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, it was throughout New Zealand. It was a gift

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Speaker 17: from nature to say sorry about twenty three. Twenty four

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Speaker 17: is or was a vintage that really delivered an even

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Speaker 17: growing season. Flowering was great, although in some kind of

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Speaker 17: parts of the country it wasn't so great, but flowering

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Speaker 17: overall was very good, and that gave us an abundance

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01:13:16,773 --> 01:13:21,693
Speaker 17: of fruit, ripe fruit at volume that we could make

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01:13:21,773 --> 01:13:24,253
Speaker 17: some spectacular wines from really good vintage.

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Speaker 2: Do you know, I remember when I was living in

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Speaker 2: New York and I used to pop along to the

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Speaker 2: musket Room, which was that incredible New Zealand restaurant Michelin

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Speaker 2: Star restaurant with Matt Lambert behind the cock, you know,

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Speaker 2: leaving the kitchen, and I think you were involved in

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Speaker 2: and I remember seeing Noidorf wines listed at the Musket Room.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, it was a great pleasure to be able to

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Speaker 17: list wine like that in New York. And yes, you're right,

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01:13:51,573 --> 01:13:55,293
Speaker 17: we got a Michelin Star four months after being open.

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Speaker 17: And Barbara and Matt has moved on from that point

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Speaker 17: in time and they now run the large Bar group

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Speaker 17: under the Rod and Gun umbrella here in New Zealand.

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Speaker 17: So yeah, Greape Food comes home.

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Speaker 2: Ah, so good eh, Hey, thank you so much, Cameron.

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Speaker 2: That does sound fantastic. So Cameron's wine for us this

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Speaker 2: week is a Neudorff Titdy Titty Pinot Gree twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four from Nelson. You have a wonderful time at your

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Speaker 2: Decanter World Wine Awards and we will catch in a

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Speaker 2: couple of eggs.

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Speaker 17: Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 1: Gardening with still sharp free autumn upgrades on Still's best sellers.

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Speaker 2: Rude Climb Past is in the garden for us this morning,

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Speaker 2: talking clusterflies, which is the sort of thing that most

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Speaker 2: of us would be disgusted by, but of course Rude

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Speaker 2: is a little bit delighted by as well.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, sir, Good training Jack.

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Speaker 6: You do realize that the clusterflies were in discovered by

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01:14:47,733 --> 01:14:51,133
Speaker 6: talkback callers on Newstorg ZB in nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 2: No, are you serious, there you go?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely. I was working for the Ministry of Anger

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Speaker 6: and Fishheads or METH whatever they call themselves, and we

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01:15:00,533 --> 01:15:03,813
Speaker 6: got these complaints of these funny little flies that were

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Speaker 6: coming in the North chore. That was a nineteen eighty

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01:15:06,253 --> 01:15:08,493
Speaker 6: f and we went out and the had a look

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Speaker 6: and found oh gosh, it's the new species, the new

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Speaker 6: to New Zealand. That's the cluster flight from Europe basically,

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01:15:13,893 --> 01:15:16,613
Speaker 6: and it came in probably on some cargo and ships

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01:15:16,653 --> 01:15:21,253
Speaker 6: and things like that. Yeah, it was I won't forget that.

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Speaker 6: It was really cool fun because I was just working

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Speaker 6: at METH for the first year or so and there

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Speaker 6: we went. That was great fun. But those flies are

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01:15:28,413 --> 01:15:31,133
Speaker 6: actually quite lovely if you see them. They're very common

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01:15:31,133 --> 01:15:33,533
Speaker 6: in the South Island, by the way, and probably also

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01:15:33,573 --> 01:15:36,493
Speaker 6: common in the cooler places of the North Island. So

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Speaker 6: I thought I'll just there's a lot of that stuff

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Speaker 6: on the on the on the website, so you can

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Speaker 6: read it all. I know that all the time in

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Speaker 6: the world. Gorgeous fly, golden hairs on its on its back.

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Speaker 6: It's beautiful actually, size of a blowfly, that sort of thing,

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Speaker 6: and a parasite of earthworms.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, it lays.

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01:15:57,133 --> 01:16:00,493
Speaker 6: Eggs in earthworm burrows, and then the maggots basically killed

1429
01:16:00,493 --> 01:16:03,573
Speaker 6: the earthworms. It's not any any major thing for the

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Speaker 6: earthworm population, doesn't seem to be, you know, sell them

1431
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Speaker 6: that much. But then comes this time of the year

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Speaker 6: and all the adult cluster fliers are getting together. They

1433
01:16:12,933 --> 01:16:15,973
Speaker 6: work together a little bit like that Vatican stuff, you know,

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01:16:16,333 --> 01:16:18,973
Speaker 6: they work together. They stick their fingers opposite. This is

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01:16:19,013 --> 01:16:22,493
Speaker 6: where we go, and they put an pheromone trip into

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01:16:22,573 --> 01:16:26,093
Speaker 6: this hole, the hole where they go into somebody's house

1437
01:16:26,413 --> 01:16:29,493
Speaker 6: or under the house or in the ceiling, and that's

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01:16:29,533 --> 01:16:33,333
Speaker 6: where they will be for the winter. And yeah, it's

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01:16:33,413 --> 01:16:36,573
Speaker 6: cool stuff. But the problem is they've got this sticky

1440
01:16:36,613 --> 01:16:40,933
Speaker 6: phaeromount which is quite rubbishy, stent and nasty and all

1441
01:16:41,013 --> 01:16:45,253
Speaker 6: it and smells like buckwheat honey. And it's really hard

1442
01:16:45,253 --> 01:16:48,653
Speaker 6: to control those things. And I know you probably haven't

1443
01:16:48,653 --> 01:16:51,453
Speaker 6: had them in Auckland where you are, but if you

1444
01:16:51,613 --> 01:16:53,933
Speaker 6: try to get rid of them, all the stick and

1445
01:16:54,093 --> 01:16:58,293
Speaker 6: stuff and grime will stay everywhere. So here is the

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01:16:58,293 --> 01:17:00,893
Speaker 6: best way to go about it. It's an oily material

1447
01:17:00,933 --> 01:17:04,533
Speaker 6: of course that they leave anywhere on the services. But

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01:17:04,613 --> 01:17:07,853
Speaker 6: if you get a residual aerosol from Safe Works. We've

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01:17:07,893 --> 01:17:10,533
Speaker 6: talked about this before. Safe Works is a company that

1450
01:17:10,893 --> 01:17:14,013
Speaker 6: is aerosol cans that we designed for aircraft sprays and

1451
01:17:14,053 --> 01:17:17,413
Speaker 6: things like that, long lasting, you can actually get rid

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01:17:17,413 --> 01:17:21,893
Speaker 6: of them without causing too much extra mess for yourself.

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01:17:22,093 --> 01:17:23,293
Speaker 6: That's really what it's about.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, you just get the aerosol can. Very good

1455
01:17:26,173 --> 01:17:28,813
Speaker 2: and it's Safe Works with an X. Isn't it like Safe.

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Speaker 3: Work at the end.

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01:17:30,213 --> 01:17:32,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the US okay now.

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Speaker 6: But honestly it's the way to go about it, and

1459
01:17:34,333 --> 01:17:36,693
Speaker 6: you'll find you will be able to stop them from

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01:17:36,693 --> 01:17:39,493
Speaker 6: going in and out because the pheromone will be basically

1461
01:17:39,813 --> 01:17:41,613
Speaker 6: toxic by then then they won't get in.

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Speaker 2: Oh very good. Hey, thanks RhoD appreciate that boy to

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Speaker 2: welcome through climb past in the garden with the cluster

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Speaker 2: fliers for us this morning after eleven o'clock on Newstalk.

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Speaker 2: Z'd be our book reviewer has read that amazing sounding

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Speaker 2: book by the New Zealander who used to work as

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Speaker 2: a sceniory at Facebook. So she's going to tell us

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Speaker 2: about careless people, plus the latest read from Isabelle a

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Speaker 2: Yen Day and as well as that, we're going to

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Speaker 2: listen to new music the first day of album by

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Speaker 2: Kiwi Muse those chaos in the CBD. Looking forward to

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Speaker 2: that news Us next time. It's almost eleven. I'm Jack

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Speaker 2: Tam and this is News Talks.

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Speaker 14: He'd be.

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Speaker 3: How bad do you want me?

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Speaker 1: Saturday mornings with Jack Day, keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend with bpure dot Cottence here for high quality

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Speaker 1: Supplements US Talks.

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Speaker 4: B Ah.

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Speaker 2: So Marie you good morning. If you're just turning us

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Speaker 2: on this morning, we've missed you. Thanks for joining us. No,

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Speaker 2: it's lovely to have you with us this morning on

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Speaker 2: News Talks. He'd be Jack Tame in the hot seat

1484
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Speaker 2: through the midday today too. What I'm keeping a pretty

1485
01:19:04,453 --> 01:19:06,853
Speaker 2: close eye on this situation in India and Pucket. I

1486
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Speaker 2: know it's been kind of simmering away over the last

1487
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Speaker 2: couple of weeks. The latest news overnight is that all

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Speaker 2: of the New Zealand cricketers and people adjacent to New

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Speaker 2: Zealand cricketers who are in India and Pakistan for the

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Speaker 2: various Indian and Pakistani cricket leagues at the moment, have

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Speaker 2: now left the country. And that includes the commentators who

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Speaker 2: are over there as well. I've left both countries. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: includes the commentators who are there as well. I actually,

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01:19:33,933 --> 01:19:36,293
Speaker 2: just before COVID, one of the last things I did

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Speaker 2: before COVID really took off around the world right at

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Speaker 2: the end of twenty nineteen and twenty twenty, was traveled

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Speaker 2: through that region and my brother and I, in fact,

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Speaker 2: I spent New Year's Eve twenty twenty, by which stage,

1499
01:19:47,853 --> 01:19:51,133
Speaker 2: of course, I suppose COVID was already affecting various countries.

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01:19:51,333 --> 01:19:54,413
Speaker 2: I spent New Year's Eve twenty twenty in Mumbai, so

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01:19:54,933 --> 01:19:58,373
Speaker 2: you know, the thirty first of December twenty nineteen hours

1502
01:19:58,373 --> 01:20:02,013
Speaker 2: in Mumbai, and then in the days afterwards, my brother

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01:20:02,053 --> 01:20:05,413
Speaker 2: and I went up into the Punjab and we kind

1504
01:20:05,413 --> 01:20:08,293
Speaker 2: of traveled around a little, but we went to Amritza

1505
01:20:08,373 --> 01:20:11,053
Speaker 2: and had a wonderful time there, and then we did

1506
01:20:11,053 --> 01:20:13,693
Speaker 2: that kind of amazing thing. You might even remember it

1507
01:20:13,733 --> 01:20:16,013
Speaker 2: from I think Michael Palan did it years ago, and

1508
01:20:16,053 --> 01:20:17,693
Speaker 2: it's sort of become a bit of a mainstay of

1509
01:20:17,733 --> 01:20:20,333
Speaker 2: travel shows. We went through the Waigar border, which is

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01:20:20,373 --> 01:20:24,653
Speaker 2: the border in the Punjab region that kind of separates

1511
01:20:24,653 --> 01:20:29,293
Speaker 2: Amritza from Lahore. Both of the cities are sort of

1512
01:20:29,453 --> 01:20:31,693
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen k's away from the border as it stands,

1513
01:20:31,733 --> 01:20:34,133
Speaker 2: but there was a real kind of central point and

1514
01:20:34,293 --> 01:20:42,213
Speaker 2: partition and it's just like an incredibly lively, vibrant, rich

1515
01:20:42,373 --> 01:20:44,253
Speaker 2: part of the world to travel through. And you know,

1516
01:20:44,293 --> 01:20:47,933
Speaker 2: when you travel through Lahore and you realize that all

1517
01:20:48,013 --> 01:20:49,893
Speaker 2: of these people, I mean, in some cases are still

1518
01:20:49,893 --> 01:20:52,293
Speaker 2: speaking the same language on either side of the border.

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01:20:53,133 --> 01:20:56,373
Speaker 2: They might be speaking Punjabi. They have so much in common,

1520
01:20:56,453 --> 01:20:59,773
Speaker 2: so much shared history, so much kind of shared culture,

1521
01:20:59,853 --> 01:21:03,133
Speaker 2: and yet there are these incredible divisions that exist today,

1522
01:21:03,573 --> 01:21:08,533
Speaker 2: in this anim animosity that exists today between India and Pakistan,

1523
01:21:08,653 --> 01:21:11,013
Speaker 2: largely as a result of the way in which that

1524
01:21:11,053 --> 01:21:15,373
Speaker 2: partition went ahead. It's just so sad. It is just

1525
01:21:15,413 --> 01:21:19,173
Speaker 2: so sad. And you know, I'm obviously hoping that things

1526
01:21:19,213 --> 01:21:21,293
Speaker 2: in the next few days in Kashmi are able to

1527
01:21:21,373 --> 01:21:24,573
Speaker 2: kind of simmer down a little bit and that the

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01:21:24,613 --> 01:21:26,973
Speaker 2: tensions ease a little bit. But there's not much in

1529
01:21:26,973 --> 01:21:28,693
Speaker 2: the world right now that can be a great cause

1530
01:21:28,733 --> 01:21:31,253
Speaker 2: for optimism on that front. So you know, I really

1531
01:21:31,293 --> 01:21:33,053
Speaker 2: hope that we can see a day when things are

1532
01:21:33,293 --> 01:21:36,013
Speaker 2: a little more stable and when Indians and Pakistanis and

1533
01:21:36,213 --> 01:21:39,613
Speaker 2: Punjabis can freely travel between those countries. It's no big deal.

1534
01:21:39,653 --> 01:21:42,613
Speaker 2: That would be wonderful to see. Anyway, before a day

1535
01:21:42,653 --> 01:21:44,533
Speaker 2: on news talks, he'd be We are going to play

1536
01:21:44,613 --> 01:21:47,173
Speaker 2: some music from Chaos in the CBD. These two Kiwi

1537
01:21:47,253 --> 01:21:49,813
Speaker 2: brothers have been making a really interesting kind of I

1538
01:21:49,853 --> 01:21:51,933
Speaker 2: don't want to just call it dance music, but kind

1539
01:21:51,933 --> 01:21:59,293
Speaker 2: of electronic urban music for the last fifteen or twenty years.

1540
01:21:59,853 --> 01:22:01,813
Speaker 2: But they've only just released their first album, which is

1541
01:22:01,813 --> 01:22:04,013
Speaker 2: interesting because they've got a massive following overseas. The band

1542
01:22:04,093 --> 01:22:07,013
Speaker 2: is called Chaos in the CBD. So we're going to

1543
01:22:07,013 --> 01:22:08,853
Speaker 2: play you a couple of songs from their new album

1544
01:22:08,893 --> 01:22:10,933
Speaker 2: before midday. We'll have your book picks for this weekend

1545
01:22:10,973 --> 01:22:13,893
Speaker 2: as well. Right now, though it is ten past eleven,

1546
01:22:14,573 --> 01:22:18,773
Speaker 2: Jack were Sutherland's secondly coore psychologists from Umbrella Well Being

1547
01:22:18,893 --> 01:22:23,053
Speaker 2: is with us this morning, Calderdogle, Curder Jack, how are you.

1548
01:22:23,173 --> 01:22:25,413
Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. Hey. A few weeks ago,

1549
01:22:25,533 --> 01:22:28,293
Speaker 2: interesting are you and I were discussing adolescents that that

1550
01:22:28,413 --> 01:22:31,893
Speaker 2: amazing Netflix series. And then this week, of course, the

1551
01:22:32,293 --> 01:22:34,853
Speaker 2: well A National MP has put forward a member's bill

1552
01:22:35,893 --> 01:22:39,333
Speaker 2: that would that would effectively ban social media for under

1553
01:22:39,333 --> 01:22:41,813
Speaker 2: sixteen year olds. But there's a new report from the

1554
01:22:41,853 --> 01:22:45,133
Speaker 2: Classification Office that actually looks at what young people are

1555
01:22:45,173 --> 01:22:48,293
Speaker 2: being exposed to online, which is fascinating.

1556
01:22:48,573 --> 01:22:52,853
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, fascinating and to be frank quite quite frightening

1557
01:22:52,893 --> 01:22:56,333
Speaker 18: as well. And you know that that that they had

1558
01:22:56,773 --> 01:22:59,453
Speaker 18: they spoke to about ten groups of young people so

1559
01:22:59,533 --> 01:23:00,333
Speaker 18: that stage.

1560
01:23:00,053 --> 01:23:01,533
Speaker 5: Between twelve and twenty five.

1561
01:23:02,093 --> 01:23:05,733
Speaker 18: And look, it was incredibly common, almost universal that they

1562
01:23:05,853 --> 01:23:12,293
Speaker 18: had and counted what the Classification Office called extremely harmful content,

1563
01:23:12,333 --> 01:23:15,413
Speaker 18: and that's things like you know, graphic real world depictions

1564
01:23:15,453 --> 01:23:18,653
Speaker 18: of violence and cuilty to animals, amongst other things.

1565
01:23:18,653 --> 01:23:21,093
Speaker 5: They won't go through the whole list because it's.

1566
01:23:20,573 --> 01:23:22,893
Speaker 18: A little bit stomach turning, but you know, this was

1567
01:23:23,173 --> 01:23:25,853
Speaker 18: I guess that the message was that young people are

1568
01:23:25,933 --> 01:23:31,973
Speaker 18: seeing really distressing content online. Now I do want to

1569
01:23:32,013 --> 01:23:35,893
Speaker 18: say it's not just social media that there was a

1570
01:23:35,973 --> 01:23:38,053
Speaker 18: variety of ways at that sener, but it was a

1571
01:23:38,093 --> 01:23:41,053
Speaker 18: real eye opener, I think, and would be probably a

1572
01:23:41,093 --> 01:23:44,973
Speaker 18: surprise perhaps to many, particularly parents, about the content that

1573
01:23:45,333 --> 01:23:49,093
Speaker 18: young people are actually seeing, not not always intentionally.

1574
01:23:49,173 --> 01:23:51,453
Speaker 2: Well, and that's a key point, right, A lot of

1575
01:23:51,453 --> 01:23:53,693
Speaker 2: the time it was actually unintentional that they came across

1576
01:23:53,693 --> 01:23:54,053
Speaker 2: the stuff.

1577
01:23:54,133 --> 01:23:58,533
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It was you know, it

1578
01:23:58,653 --> 01:24:01,693
Speaker 18: wasn't Sometimes people searched it, you know, they would hear

1579
01:24:01,733 --> 01:24:04,173
Speaker 18: something and search it and then go, oh my god,

1580
01:24:04,173 --> 01:24:06,893
Speaker 18: that's horrible. But sometimes it just sort of turned up

1581
01:24:06,933 --> 01:24:10,813
Speaker 18: and their news speeds, or somebody messaged them with it,

1582
01:24:11,053 --> 01:24:15,493
Speaker 18: or or they saw it on a friend's device. So yes,

1583
01:24:15,533 --> 01:24:19,213
Speaker 18: a lot of it was just unintentional that they hadn't

1584
01:24:19,213 --> 01:24:22,213
Speaker 18: searched it out. It just it just appears, and they

1585
01:24:22,253 --> 01:24:25,973
Speaker 18: suddenly were exposed to these really distressing sort of images online.

1586
01:24:26,093 --> 01:24:28,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't unsee it. It's like it must

1587
01:24:28,373 --> 01:24:30,173
Speaker 2: be pretty affecting, especially for young people.

1588
01:24:31,173 --> 01:24:33,173
Speaker 18: Yeah, and some of them used that to them, you know,

1589
01:24:33,173 --> 01:24:35,933
Speaker 18: they said, look, some things you just can't unsee, and

1590
01:24:35,973 --> 01:24:39,693
Speaker 18: they use words are horrified and terrified and probably you know,

1591
01:24:39,733 --> 01:24:41,573
Speaker 18: depending on what they've seen, there's that there's a real

1592
01:24:41,693 --> 01:24:45,573
Speaker 18: risk of some of them probably developing things like ptsd

1593
01:24:45,733 --> 01:24:48,733
Speaker 18: as as a result of that, or of seeing something,

1594
01:24:48,893 --> 01:24:51,813
Speaker 18: particularly if it's real you know, it's real life, so

1595
01:24:51,853 --> 01:24:54,573
Speaker 18: it's you know, it's quite it's quite sobering. I think

1596
01:24:54,733 --> 01:24:57,813
Speaker 18: that the what's out there and what our young people

1597
01:24:57,813 --> 01:25:00,413
Speaker 18: have been often inadvertently exposed to.

1598
01:25:00,693 --> 01:25:02,773
Speaker 2: Do young people know what to do if they come

1599
01:25:02,813 --> 01:25:06,093
Speaker 2: across the stuff like do they feel like they can

1600
01:25:06,133 --> 01:25:09,013
Speaker 2: tell parents? Do they feel like they can you know,

1601
01:25:09,213 --> 01:25:11,493
Speaker 2: the parents feel like they can try and tell the

1602
01:25:11,653 --> 01:25:12,893
Speaker 2: platform or you.

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01:25:12,853 --> 01:25:17,373
Speaker 18: Know, well that that that's they're They're often unsure. That

1604
01:25:17,533 --> 01:25:19,133
Speaker 18: was one of the findings is that they were often

1605
01:25:19,213 --> 01:25:20,453
Speaker 18: unsure about.

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01:25:20,493 --> 01:25:21,173
Speaker 17: What to do.

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01:25:21,253 --> 01:25:23,533
Speaker 18: They were worried that if they told a parent, for

1608
01:25:23,653 --> 01:25:26,733
Speaker 18: a teacher, then that the immediate result would be right,

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01:25:26,933 --> 01:25:28,693
Speaker 18: you know, give us your phone or your device, you're

1610
01:25:28,733 --> 01:25:32,213
Speaker 18: not having that anymore. And they didn't, you know, the

1611
01:25:32,253 --> 01:25:34,653
Speaker 18: message from them was that that they didn't want that

1612
01:25:36,253 --> 01:25:40,733
Speaker 18: they didn't and they weren't often confident about reporting it,

1613
01:25:40,893 --> 01:25:43,813
Speaker 18: you know, to a platform, because it seemed for many

1614
01:25:43,813 --> 01:25:46,533
Speaker 18: of them quite a laborious process and it wasn't really

1615
01:25:46,573 --> 01:25:50,373
Speaker 18: clear that it would work. But they did say they

1616
01:25:50,453 --> 01:25:53,173
Speaker 18: wanted to have. They wanted to be able to have

1617
01:25:53,333 --> 01:25:57,893
Speaker 18: open communications with trusted people in their lives when they

1618
01:25:58,013 --> 01:26:01,213
Speaker 18: had come across it, and and to be able to

1619
01:26:01,413 --> 01:26:03,693
Speaker 18: And I guess it's respecting the fact that they're developing

1620
01:26:03,693 --> 01:26:07,053
Speaker 18: into adults to be able to be supported and figuring

1621
01:26:07,053 --> 01:26:09,853
Speaker 18: out what to do. So rather than having parents or

1622
01:26:09,893 --> 01:26:13,773
Speaker 18: adults jump and removing things immediately, it was like, actually,

1623
01:26:14,973 --> 01:26:17,013
Speaker 18: let's try and knuck this out together, and let's give

1624
01:26:17,053 --> 01:26:19,773
Speaker 18: you the skills that you can use next time you

1625
01:26:19,813 --> 01:26:23,013
Speaker 18: come across it, you know, because it does sound like

1626
01:26:23,053 --> 01:26:25,733
Speaker 18: there will be next time. So yeah, so it was

1627
01:26:25,773 --> 01:26:27,613
Speaker 18: a sort of a more nuanced thing that they were

1628
01:26:27,613 --> 01:26:31,573
Speaker 18: really asking for, not not. And I think the danger is,

1629
01:26:31,613 --> 01:26:35,653
Speaker 18: of course, if things are removed immediately, then it just

1630
01:26:36,253 --> 01:26:40,173
Speaker 18: you just I'm not sure that that will necessarily stop it,

1631
01:26:40,253 --> 01:26:42,733
Speaker 18: but it's likely to push the behavior underground.

1632
01:26:42,853 --> 01:26:43,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they.

1633
01:26:43,533 --> 01:26:46,133
Speaker 18: Might see it, but then they won't tell anybody about it.

1634
01:26:46,253 --> 01:26:49,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing, because a natural impulse from a

1635
01:26:49,813 --> 01:26:51,933
Speaker 2: parenting perspective will be like, wow, all right, we'll just

1636
01:26:51,933 --> 01:26:53,733
Speaker 2: gotta you know, we're just gonna have to keep you

1637
01:26:53,733 --> 01:26:58,053
Speaker 2: off the interinet for the rest of your life. Here yeah, yeah,

1638
01:26:58,133 --> 01:26:58,893
Speaker 2: I agree.

1639
01:26:58,933 --> 01:27:01,453
Speaker 18: I think it is a really natural impulse as parents

1640
01:27:01,493 --> 01:27:04,013
Speaker 18: that if you know, if our kids have seen something

1641
01:27:04,053 --> 01:27:07,853
Speaker 18: that's really upsetting and distressing, truly want to protect them

1642
01:27:08,413 --> 01:27:12,373
Speaker 18: from that. But I'm you know, and I can see that,

1643
01:27:12,533 --> 01:27:15,613
Speaker 18: I can see the argument there. But I firstly, I mean,

1644
01:27:16,373 --> 01:27:20,293
Speaker 18: if you banned them from social media, you probably are

1645
01:27:20,413 --> 01:27:24,053
Speaker 18: not not actually going to fix the whole problem because

1646
01:27:24,093 --> 01:27:26,213
Speaker 18: it wasn't always on social media. And then what are

1647
01:27:26,213 --> 01:27:27,453
Speaker 18: you going to do? You're going to are you going

1648
01:27:27,533 --> 01:27:29,573
Speaker 18: to ban the internet? You know, a you're going to

1649
01:27:29,613 --> 01:27:32,453
Speaker 18: ban it for a sixteen year old. It's literally in

1650
01:27:32,453 --> 01:27:35,813
Speaker 18: the air around us. And so I'm not, you know,

1651
01:27:35,973 --> 01:27:38,973
Speaker 18: I understand that desire, but I'm not one hundred percent

1652
01:27:39,013 --> 01:27:41,253
Speaker 18: sure that it would be the would actually be the

1653
01:27:41,253 --> 01:27:43,893
Speaker 18: best thing. And you know, and we do want to

1654
01:27:43,973 --> 01:27:46,493
Speaker 18: keep those communication channels open for the young people so

1655
01:27:46,573 --> 01:27:48,653
Speaker 18: if they do see it, they can come and tell someone,

1656
01:27:48,693 --> 01:27:50,973
Speaker 18: because it's super important, you know, to be able to

1657
01:27:51,373 --> 01:27:54,293
Speaker 18: not want to hold that in if you've seen something

1658
01:27:54,413 --> 01:27:56,853
Speaker 18: really distressing, be able to have somebody safe that you

1659
01:27:56,853 --> 01:27:59,533
Speaker 18: can go and sort of be stress and unwind with

1660
01:27:59,573 --> 01:28:02,413
Speaker 18: and let them know and just just you know, share

1661
01:28:02,453 --> 01:28:04,813
Speaker 18: that with somebody, so it's perhaps take some of this

1662
01:28:04,893 --> 01:28:05,493
Speaker 18: thing out of it.

1663
01:28:05,733 --> 01:28:08,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the thing. The nuance is the key,

1664
01:28:08,733 --> 01:28:10,653
Speaker 2: the key thing when it comes to the parents' response,

1665
01:28:10,693 --> 01:28:12,533
Speaker 2: you just want to and try and have some nuance there.

1666
01:28:12,653 --> 01:28:15,333
Speaker 2: What do you think of the banning under sixteen from

1667
01:28:15,373 --> 01:28:16,453
Speaker 2: social media idea?

1668
01:28:18,253 --> 01:28:18,653
Speaker 10: I don't know.

1669
01:28:18,853 --> 01:28:23,453
Speaker 18: I'm mixed about today. I mean, I like, I understand

1670
01:28:23,493 --> 01:28:28,733
Speaker 18: it and especial if you're being exposed to difficult stuff.

1671
01:28:28,933 --> 01:28:30,453
Speaker 18: On the other hand, we know that a lot of

1672
01:28:30,493 --> 01:28:34,853
Speaker 18: social it's a big source of social contact for a

1673
01:28:34,853 --> 01:28:37,693
Speaker 18: lot of young people, particularly in minority groups or who

1674
01:28:37,693 --> 01:28:40,893
Speaker 18: are perhaps geographically remote, that it's a real source of

1675
01:28:41,013 --> 01:28:44,093
Speaker 18: social connection. And I know the argument will be, well,

1676
01:28:44,133 --> 01:28:45,453
Speaker 18: we grew up with it. You know, we didn't have

1677
01:28:45,453 --> 01:28:47,053
Speaker 18: the Internet when we grew up.

1678
01:28:47,093 --> 01:28:48,973
Speaker 7: But you know that's I know that.

1679
01:28:49,213 --> 01:28:51,533
Speaker 18: And I grew up in that area era too, and

1680
01:28:51,573 --> 01:28:53,973
Speaker 18: it's like, well, we still made friends, but we're not

1681
01:28:54,053 --> 01:28:54,973
Speaker 18: in that era anymore.

1682
01:28:55,013 --> 01:28:56,133
Speaker 17: That's history.

1683
01:28:56,933 --> 01:29:00,533
Speaker 18: And I kind of get the sentiment, but I just

1684
01:29:00,573 --> 01:29:05,173
Speaker 18: worried that it won't actually be as effectives as people

1685
01:29:05,173 --> 01:29:07,813
Speaker 18: would like it to be. Be interesting to sit, you know,

1686
01:29:07,893 --> 01:29:10,133
Speaker 18: to trace Australia and see what's going to happen there

1687
01:29:10,133 --> 01:29:13,773
Speaker 18: because they you know, they have effectively done that and

1688
01:29:13,933 --> 01:29:16,293
Speaker 18: so be interesting to see how they go. But I

1689
01:29:16,293 --> 01:29:19,133
Speaker 18: I worry about the policing of it. What I would

1690
01:29:19,213 --> 01:29:23,013
Speaker 18: say is i'd support I definitely support, you know, social

1691
01:29:23,053 --> 01:29:27,853
Speaker 18: media companies from having having continuing to improve the content

1692
01:29:28,573 --> 01:29:30,813
Speaker 18: that that's on their platform and kind of put it

1693
01:29:30,853 --> 01:29:33,013
Speaker 18: back on them and say, hey, look, you know, if

1694
01:29:33,053 --> 01:29:35,133
Speaker 18: you are going to have a make money from this,

1695
01:29:35,213 --> 01:29:37,453
Speaker 18: can you at least make sure that it's not harmful

1696
01:29:37,453 --> 01:29:40,973
Speaker 18: to people? You know, and maybe there's a separate platform

1697
01:29:41,013 --> 01:29:43,053
Speaker 18: front of sixteens or something. I don't know, but but

1698
01:29:43,053 --> 01:29:45,533
Speaker 18: but you know, I'm in favor of certainly putting the

1699
01:29:46,173 --> 01:29:50,013
Speaker 18: emphasis on those social media companies to be continue to

1700
01:29:50,093 --> 01:29:52,893
Speaker 18: police things even more strongly than they are now.

1701
01:29:52,973 --> 01:29:55,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, such a tricky one. Hey, thanks so much, Google.

1702
01:29:55,493 --> 01:29:58,653
Speaker 2: We really appreciate your dialing inside as always of course,

1703
01:29:59,013 --> 01:30:01,893
Speaker 2: just google something and they're from Umbrella Well Being in

1704
01:30:01,933 --> 01:30:04,533
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes as travel correspondent, and he has

1705
01:30:05,093 --> 01:30:08,653
Speaker 2: whittled down a list of his top five star dining

1706
01:30:08,733 --> 01:30:11,853
Speaker 2: destinations in London, so he will share those with us

1707
01:30:12,053 --> 01:30:13,893
Speaker 2: right now. It's nineteen past eleven.

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Speaker 3: Travel with Windy Woo Tours, Where the world is yours

1709
01:30:17,733 --> 01:30:18,213
Speaker 3: for now.

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01:30:18,573 --> 01:30:21,853
Speaker 2: Our travel correspondent is Mike Yardley. Mike, am I right

1711
01:30:21,893 --> 01:30:24,093
Speaker 2: in thinking that Christ you just sold out for the

1712
01:30:24,173 --> 01:30:26,013
Speaker 2: Chiefs Crusaders game this evening.

1713
01:30:27,133 --> 01:30:28,893
Speaker 9: I think it's sold out in October.

1714
01:30:29,773 --> 01:30:32,053
Speaker 2: That's amazing. I think is it like the first time

1715
01:30:32,053 --> 01:30:33,853
Speaker 2: it's been sold out for ages?

1716
01:30:33,933 --> 01:30:34,093
Speaker 5: Right?

1717
01:30:34,133 --> 01:30:35,973
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure to come and it opens next year,

1718
01:30:35,973 --> 01:30:38,933
Speaker 2: will sell out immediately. But yeah, so good to see

1719
01:30:38,933 --> 01:30:40,493
Speaker 2: that's going to be that's going to be a thrilling

1720
01:30:40,533 --> 01:30:42,533
Speaker 2: game tonight just after seven o'clock.

1721
01:30:44,853 --> 01:30:47,733
Speaker 9: As a Crusaders fans, very quickly, Jack, I'm so pleased

1722
01:30:47,773 --> 01:30:50,733
Speaker 9: to see not just d Mech back, but one of

1723
01:30:50,773 --> 01:30:53,453
Speaker 9: my favorite rugby players of all time at the moment,

1724
01:30:53,813 --> 01:30:55,813
Speaker 9: Wall's to ts. So good to have them back on

1725
01:30:55,813 --> 01:30:56,173
Speaker 9: the field.

1726
01:30:56,333 --> 01:30:59,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's at fource A like just as he's like

1727
01:30:59,853 --> 01:31:01,133
Speaker 2: a little hurricane on the field.

1728
01:31:01,213 --> 01:31:01,373
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1729
01:31:01,453 --> 01:31:04,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's going to be an amazing question to night.

1730
01:31:04,133 --> 01:31:05,693
Speaker 2: So very much looking forward to that. But we are

1731
01:31:05,733 --> 01:31:08,093
Speaker 2: turning our tea and a little further afield this morning.

1732
01:31:08,213 --> 01:31:11,933
Speaker 2: Five star dining destinations in London, and few cities in

1733
01:31:12,013 --> 01:31:16,773
Speaker 2: the world do afternoon tea or high tea quite like London.

1734
01:31:16,813 --> 01:31:20,653
Speaker 2: So where is the ultimate place to partake in this pastime?

1735
01:31:21,813 --> 01:31:24,493
Speaker 9: You really can't beat the Ritz, Sorry and Jack for

1736
01:31:24,573 --> 01:31:28,293
Speaker 9: a timeless tea times splurge, And it is a splurge

1737
01:31:28,293 --> 01:31:32,293
Speaker 9: because it's seventy nine pounds per person the Ritz, I know,

1738
01:31:32,653 --> 01:31:35,693
Speaker 9: but the splendor of that setting, the Palm Court Salon

1739
01:31:36,493 --> 01:31:39,453
Speaker 9: is quite the place to stuff your face. Yeah, and

1740
01:31:39,453 --> 01:31:42,333
Speaker 9: you've got lots of British classics. You know, your Scottish

1741
01:31:42,333 --> 01:31:48,453
Speaker 9: smoked salmon samis, your fluffy scones with Cornish clotted cream. Interestingly,

1742
01:31:48,733 --> 01:31:51,213
Speaker 9: the thing about the Ritz apparently they are the only

1743
01:31:51,533 --> 01:31:56,213
Speaker 9: UKK hotel that has a certified tea master and his

1744
01:31:56,453 --> 01:31:59,693
Speaker 9: sole job is to travel around the world to various

1745
01:31:59,733 --> 01:32:03,333
Speaker 9: tea plantations to source their loose leaf teas. Wouldn't that

1746
01:32:03,413 --> 01:32:04,013
Speaker 9: be a gig?

1747
01:32:04,173 --> 01:32:08,173
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that's tough, tough life. Yeah, it's amazing. I mean, yeah,

1748
01:32:08,213 --> 01:32:11,133
Speaker 2: it's spinny, but it's like you've got to do it once, right,

1749
01:32:11,173 --> 01:32:13,293
Speaker 2: I feel like that's the thing with the Yeah. So

1750
01:32:13,373 --> 01:32:15,853
Speaker 2: just down the road on Piccadilly, what about Fortnam and Mason.

1751
01:32:16,893 --> 01:32:19,573
Speaker 9: Yes, for over three hundred years, this is the high

1752
01:32:19,653 --> 01:32:23,933
Speaker 9: end grosser and tea merchant, a real regal London main

1753
01:32:24,013 --> 01:32:27,213
Speaker 9: state up currently actually got two royal warrants from both

1754
01:32:27,213 --> 01:32:30,333
Speaker 9: the King and the Queen, which is quite unique. But

1755
01:32:30,453 --> 01:32:33,133
Speaker 9: the Diamond Jubilee Tea cellon is where you will go

1756
01:32:33,213 --> 01:32:36,893
Speaker 9: for afternoon tea here really popular. The thing about the menu,

1757
01:32:37,053 --> 01:32:40,853
Speaker 9: just the teas alone. They have got ninety two tees

1758
01:32:41,053 --> 01:32:44,573
Speaker 9: on offer in their menu, which is insane. When it

1759
01:32:44,613 --> 01:32:47,653
Speaker 9: comes to the food, quite inventive. They've sort of switched

1760
01:32:47,693 --> 01:32:48,373
Speaker 9: things up a bit.

1761
01:32:48,413 --> 01:32:48,493
Speaker 5: So.

1762
01:32:48,613 --> 01:32:51,693
Speaker 9: A really big hit at Fortman Mason for the high

1763
01:32:51,773 --> 01:32:57,493
Speaker 9: t is lobster scones with cream cheese and cavia topping.

1764
01:32:57,733 --> 01:33:02,373
Speaker 2: Why not Jack, Okay? Lobster scones with cream cheese and

1765
01:33:02,453 --> 01:33:05,613
Speaker 2: kevier Yeah yeah, I mean yeah, why not? Okay?

1766
01:33:06,533 --> 01:33:06,973
Speaker 5: I mean is it?

1767
01:33:07,053 --> 01:33:09,133
Speaker 2: It's a bit creative that I'm into it for What

1768
01:33:09,133 --> 01:33:11,413
Speaker 2: about high tea with a difference? What's happening at the Shard?

1769
01:33:12,453 --> 01:33:15,733
Speaker 9: Well, particularly if you're traveling with kids, I would say

1770
01:33:15,733 --> 01:33:18,573
Speaker 9: for something really whimsical, head to the Shard for a

1771
01:33:18,853 --> 01:33:24,733
Speaker 9: seriously high tea. At Britain's highest skyscraper, Aquashard Restaurant, they

1772
01:33:24,813 --> 01:33:28,533
Speaker 9: serve up a Peter Pan afternoon tea, so your kids

1773
01:33:28,573 --> 01:33:32,333
Speaker 9: will feel like they have been transported to Neverland, gazing

1774
01:33:32,373 --> 01:33:37,333
Speaker 9: over the rooftops of London. All of the tasty morsels

1775
01:33:37,733 --> 01:33:41,533
Speaker 9: are story Bok themed and they're all stacked high on

1776
01:33:41,573 --> 01:33:46,253
Speaker 9: this Captain Hawk Pirate Ship tea stand complete with tinker

1777
01:33:46,293 --> 01:33:50,493
Speaker 9: Bell biscuits jack tape. So with the tinker Bell biscuits,

1778
01:33:50,493 --> 01:33:53,573
Speaker 9: you'll have a suitably costumed waitress who sort of pops

1779
01:33:53,653 --> 01:33:56,413
Speaker 9: up at your table and sprays your biscuits with an

1780
01:33:56,533 --> 01:33:59,333
Speaker 9: edible gold glitter. Your little princess will love that.

1781
01:34:00,413 --> 01:34:03,213
Speaker 2: For the ultimate British lunch, a Sunday roast, What can

1782
01:34:03,253 --> 01:34:04,453
Speaker 2: you expect you? It's a Dorchester.

1783
01:34:05,653 --> 01:34:08,813
Speaker 9: Oh my goodness. This is a feast at the Grill

1784
01:34:08,973 --> 01:34:12,533
Speaker 9: by Tom Booten at the Dorchester. So you've got to

1785
01:34:12,573 --> 01:34:15,813
Speaker 9: go famished because you will not need to eat for

1786
01:34:16,013 --> 01:34:19,253
Speaker 9: a week. And I had a number of people warn

1787
01:34:19,333 --> 01:34:22,373
Speaker 9: me about this, but man alive, did I stuff myself.

1788
01:34:22,653 --> 01:34:27,253
Speaker 9: So you get this roasted Hereford beef served with braised shin,

1789
01:34:27,573 --> 01:34:32,773
Speaker 9: stuffed Yorkshire pudding, horseradish cream and the most insane procession

1790
01:34:32,813 --> 01:34:37,133
Speaker 9: of bowls bursting with glazed carrot, seasonal greens, dup fat

1791
01:34:37,133 --> 01:34:40,453
Speaker 9: potatoes and colieflower cheese. I could have gone there alone

1792
01:34:40,453 --> 01:34:44,733
Speaker 9: for the couliflower cheese jack soft Gowey, highly addictive and

1793
01:34:44,813 --> 01:34:49,813
Speaker 9: apparently the secret is to slightly roast the collie and

1794
01:34:49,893 --> 01:34:53,773
Speaker 9: the cheese should be greir and cheddar. Grey air and

1795
01:34:53,853 --> 01:34:57,093
Speaker 9: cheddar cheese, absolutely the ultimate comfort food.

1796
01:34:57,173 --> 01:34:57,453
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1797
01:34:57,493 --> 01:35:00,293
Speaker 2: Oh, how good is Tom Booton and ethic chef?

1798
01:35:01,413 --> 01:35:04,333
Speaker 9: Yeah, so he is creating quite a wave in the UK.

1799
01:35:04,453 --> 01:35:06,813
Speaker 9: He's only thirty one, but he's con it did one

1800
01:35:06,853 --> 01:35:11,133
Speaker 9: of Blighty's red hot chefs, shaking up Britain's old standards.

1801
01:35:11,653 --> 01:35:15,213
Speaker 9: Before I had the roast, my starter was one of

1802
01:35:15,253 --> 01:35:21,853
Speaker 9: Tom's cheese and onion donuts with grape chutney, unbelievably delicious.

1803
01:35:21,933 --> 01:35:26,013
Speaker 9: And for dessert, Tom sort of worked up that British

1804
01:35:26,053 --> 01:35:29,213
Speaker 9: love affair with rhubub so he does this rhubarb pie

1805
01:35:29,773 --> 01:35:33,853
Speaker 9: paired with rhubarb and custard ice cream, and he tops

1806
01:35:33,893 --> 01:35:36,733
Speaker 9: it with tarragan, so you get this sort of subtle

1807
01:35:36,773 --> 01:35:40,533
Speaker 9: aniseed flavor. But as I say, go hungry to the

1808
01:35:40,573 --> 01:35:43,293
Speaker 9: Dorchester because it is a five star food coma.

1809
01:35:43,413 --> 01:35:46,893
Speaker 2: Speaking of the celebrity chefs, what about dinner by Heston Blumenthal?

1810
01:35:48,053 --> 01:35:51,053
Speaker 9: Yes, you will find this two star Michelin restaurant in

1811
01:35:51,093 --> 01:35:53,933
Speaker 9: Amandarin Oriental, so it's just across the road from Herod's.

1812
01:35:54,333 --> 01:35:57,333
Speaker 9: But if you're looking for a super special dinner splash

1813
01:35:57,373 --> 01:36:00,213
Speaker 9: in London, I reckon this is the one for dinner.

1814
01:36:00,773 --> 01:36:05,693
Speaker 9: Heston has touched up a trove of really historic British

1815
01:36:05,693 --> 01:36:10,733
Speaker 9: recipes rich back centuries. So my starter was a meat

1816
01:36:11,013 --> 01:36:15,053
Speaker 9: fruit from the sixteenth century. This is like a chicken

1817
01:36:15,093 --> 01:36:19,653
Speaker 9: liver parfait, shaped like a mandarin covered by a mandarin

1818
01:36:19,893 --> 01:36:24,693
Speaker 9: orange jelly. So it's hey smooth, it's earthy, and obviously

1819
01:36:24,853 --> 01:36:28,493
Speaker 9: you get that citrusy sweetness as well. My name Jack

1820
01:36:28,653 --> 01:36:34,493
Speaker 9: actually hails from seventy to nine AD from a Pompeii cookbook.

1821
01:36:35,013 --> 01:36:37,933
Speaker 9: It was duck and turnip, so it was like medium

1822
01:36:38,013 --> 01:36:41,773
Speaker 9: rea duck meat with a butterly soft turnip pure and

1823
01:36:41,813 --> 01:36:45,093
Speaker 9: then a sprinkling of black truffle. And you want to

1824
01:36:45,133 --> 01:36:47,773
Speaker 9: add to that a side of Heston's triple cocked chips,

1825
01:36:47,773 --> 01:36:49,133
Speaker 9: which are just so good.

1826
01:36:49,413 --> 01:36:52,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, this is amazing. It sounds pretty good for

1827
01:36:52,373 --> 01:36:55,213
Speaker 2: a reci be that's that old, you know, I'm sure

1828
01:36:55,213 --> 01:36:56,493
Speaker 2: the tastes over time.

1829
01:36:56,613 --> 01:37:01,693
Speaker 9: What about the dessert, Well, yes, at Heston's at the

1830
01:37:01,733 --> 01:37:04,653
Speaker 9: Mandarin Oriental, my top tip would be to order up

1831
01:37:04,653 --> 01:37:07,693
Speaker 9: an ice cream or some tape side theaters. So what

1832
01:37:07,773 --> 01:37:10,093
Speaker 9: happens is the waitress wheels out of trolley with a

1833
01:37:10,173 --> 01:37:14,893
Speaker 9: hand cring to mixer and she fuses liquid nitrogen with

1834
01:37:15,093 --> 01:37:18,573
Speaker 9: vanilla custard and you get this dramatic cloud of missed

1835
01:37:18,933 --> 01:37:23,653
Speaker 9: a pair of pub table instantly creating a seductively smooth

1836
01:37:23,653 --> 01:37:27,133
Speaker 9: ice cream. The whole idea of this is this is Heston's.

1837
01:37:27,173 --> 01:37:31,133
Speaker 9: We salute to the English frozen dessert pioneer. I'd never

1838
01:37:31,133 --> 01:37:36,333
Speaker 9: heard of this woman, miss Marshall. So she apparently popularized

1839
01:37:36,733 --> 01:37:38,933
Speaker 9: the use of liquid nitrogen in the kitchen over a

1840
01:37:38,973 --> 01:37:39,613
Speaker 9: century ago.

1841
01:37:39,893 --> 01:37:42,293
Speaker 2: Yeah amazing, Okay, yeah, that's us.

1842
01:37:42,533 --> 01:37:42,773
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1843
01:37:42,813 --> 01:37:45,413
Speaker 2: I mean, it wouldn't be a kind of Heston restaurant

1844
01:37:45,413 --> 01:37:47,693
Speaker 2: if there wasn't some liquid nitrogen in a foam and

1845
01:37:48,293 --> 01:37:51,693
Speaker 2: in a smoke or something. Right, Okay, this is very cheeky.

1846
01:37:51,773 --> 01:37:54,493
Speaker 2: I thought this morning I would add one other little

1847
01:37:54,533 --> 01:37:58,813
Speaker 2: recommendation if you are amenable to that, and that's for breakfast.

1848
01:37:59,093 --> 01:38:01,933
Speaker 2: So long longtime listens to the show might remember that

1849
01:38:01,933 --> 01:38:05,293
Speaker 2: my favorite author of all time is AA Gil and

1850
01:38:05,813 --> 01:38:09,693
Speaker 2: the kind of brilliant British food and travel and TV writer,

1851
01:38:10,173 --> 01:38:14,333
Speaker 2: and he published a whole book called Breakfast at the Wallsley,

1852
01:38:14,613 --> 01:38:16,893
Speaker 2: which is about the Warsley restaurant, which is like this

1853
01:38:17,053 --> 01:38:21,093
Speaker 2: kind of very traditional, you know, very London high street

1854
01:38:21,173 --> 01:38:24,453
Speaker 2: kind of restaurant. Yeah, very fancy. I'm just going to

1855
01:38:24,533 --> 01:38:26,173
Speaker 2: read you a couple of the couple of little things

1856
01:38:26,173 --> 01:38:27,733
Speaker 2: from their menu. I looked it up this morning so

1857
01:38:27,733 --> 01:38:29,373
Speaker 2: I could share them with you. So you could start

1858
01:38:29,413 --> 01:38:32,893
Speaker 2: off with a half a pink grapefruit, wash it down

1859
01:38:33,013 --> 01:38:36,213
Speaker 2: with prunes and orange and ginger, which is pretty tasty.

1860
01:38:36,253 --> 01:38:38,493
Speaker 2: And then maybe for a hot breakfast you could go

1861
01:38:38,533 --> 01:38:41,373
Speaker 2: with the fried haggers and duck eggs with a whiskey sauce,

1862
01:38:42,173 --> 01:38:45,853
Speaker 2: the bubble and squeak with wild mushrooms, or maybe the

1863
01:38:45,933 --> 01:38:49,053
Speaker 2: grilled kipper with mustard butter, which is all just so

1864
01:38:49,293 --> 01:38:52,493
Speaker 2: like so British. Don't you think you had me at

1865
01:38:52,493 --> 01:38:54,733
Speaker 2: the whisky sauce. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not. I mean

1866
01:38:54,773 --> 01:38:57,613
Speaker 2: it's not like an everyday meal for me, but yeah,

1867
01:38:57,653 --> 01:38:59,493
Speaker 2: I just think there's something special about it. So if

1868
01:38:59,533 --> 01:39:01,573
Speaker 2: you were looking for a breakfast option in London, I

1869
01:39:01,573 --> 01:39:03,813
Speaker 2: would recommend you whipped down to the library, you read

1870
01:39:03,853 --> 01:39:05,973
Speaker 2: the book Breakfast at the Walls Lee, which is a

1871
01:39:05,973 --> 01:39:08,893
Speaker 2: book by AA Gil all about having breakfast there, and

1872
01:39:08,933 --> 01:39:10,813
Speaker 2: then maybe you go and enjoy some of his favorite

1873
01:39:10,853 --> 01:39:12,613
Speaker 2: dishes as well. So there you go.

1874
01:39:15,653 --> 01:39:16,293
Speaker 9: It's really good.

1875
01:39:16,413 --> 01:39:16,573
Speaker 18: Jack.

1876
01:39:16,613 --> 01:39:19,373
Speaker 9: He is so sadly most as an age god.

1877
01:39:19,453 --> 01:39:21,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I remember we had him on the show

1878
01:39:22,013 --> 01:39:24,293
Speaker 2: once before he died, only a few months before he died.

1879
01:39:24,333 --> 01:39:26,093
Speaker 2: It was just like I still reflect on that as

1880
01:39:26,133 --> 01:39:28,653
Speaker 2: like an absolute career highlight. It was such a such

1881
01:39:28,653 --> 01:39:31,853
Speaker 2: a pleasure to speak with him. So anyway, we will

1882
01:39:31,853 --> 01:39:35,013
Speaker 2: make sure all of your superb recommendations are up on

1883
01:39:35,053 --> 01:39:36,933
Speaker 2: the News Talks. He'd be website and catch you again

1884
01:39:37,013 --> 01:39:40,773
Speaker 2: very soon. Mike Hardly our travel correspondent. The easiest thing

1885
01:39:40,813 --> 01:39:42,373
Speaker 2: to do for everything from AS Show is just to

1886
01:39:42,373 --> 01:39:44,133
Speaker 2: go to the News Talks. He'd be dot codon indeed

1887
01:39:44,213 --> 01:39:47,093
Speaker 2: Ford slash Jack. We make sure everything from AS Show,

1888
01:39:47,173 --> 01:39:52,133
Speaker 2: all of the books we recommend, films, Mike's travel tips,

1889
01:39:52,173 --> 01:39:53,933
Speaker 2: all of that stuff goes up there once it's been

1890
01:39:53,973 --> 01:39:56,053
Speaker 2: on the radio. It has just gone eleven.

1891
01:39:55,893 --> 01:40:03,493
Speaker 1: Thirty, Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack

1892
01:40:03,573 --> 01:40:05,053
Speaker 1: team on News talks.

1893
01:40:05,173 --> 01:40:23,053
Speaker 2: 'b that on the Sacks is Kiwi jazz ic on

1894
01:40:23,133 --> 01:40:27,853
Speaker 2: Nathan Haynes and that song is from Chaos and the CBD.

1895
01:40:28,413 --> 01:40:31,773
Speaker 2: These are the Kiwi brothers who've been making music for ages.

1896
01:40:31,813 --> 01:40:34,213
Speaker 2: Because I don't know how to define it is kind

1897
01:40:34,213 --> 01:40:39,733
Speaker 2: of you know, maybe urban jazz is that urban jazz

1898
01:40:39,813 --> 01:40:42,493
Speaker 2: is that is it too much of a stretch. Anyway,

1899
01:40:42,533 --> 01:40:44,533
Speaker 2: They've got a brand new album, their first ever album.

1900
01:40:44,613 --> 01:40:46,453
Speaker 2: So we're going to listen to a Deeper Life and

1901
01:40:46,453 --> 01:40:48,733
Speaker 2: we'll play you a couple of other songs before midday.

1902
01:40:48,813 --> 01:40:50,853
Speaker 2: Right now though is twenty six to twelve on News Stalks.

1903
01:40:50,853 --> 01:40:54,333
Speaker 2: He'd be Jason pine Is in after midday with weekend

1904
01:40:54,373 --> 01:40:59,053
Speaker 2: Sport and looking at Grayson Wiki's eligibility, which is going

1905
01:40:59,133 --> 01:41:01,533
Speaker 2: to be a fascinating subject for New Zealand netball fans.

1906
01:41:01,533 --> 01:41:04,773
Speaker 2: Piney because she has had a pretty good run of

1907
01:41:04,813 --> 01:41:08,533
Speaker 2: things playing for her Sydney t Yeah indeed, hey Jack Yeah.

1908
01:41:08,613 --> 01:41:12,133
Speaker 19: Generational player, isn't she and clearly a massive part of

1909
01:41:12,813 --> 01:41:15,293
Speaker 19: the Silver Firm's success or otherwise as we all know.

1910
01:41:15,413 --> 01:41:18,613
Speaker 19: Because she's elected to play her netball domestically in Australia,

1911
01:41:18,693 --> 01:41:21,733
Speaker 19: she's ineligible under the current rules to play for New

1912
01:41:21,773 --> 01:41:22,493
Speaker 19: Zealand this year.

1913
01:41:22,613 --> 01:41:26,453
Speaker 2: She dumb dum dum, dumb dum, dumb dumb.

1914
01:41:27,013 --> 01:41:29,213
Speaker 19: You will not get an argument from me. She says

1915
01:41:29,253 --> 01:41:31,853
Speaker 19: she wants to play. Coach Dave Nolin told her wants

1916
01:41:31,853 --> 01:41:34,213
Speaker 19: her to play. Even Jenny Wiley, the CEO, say year,

1917
01:41:34,213 --> 01:41:36,093
Speaker 19: we'd love to play. The fans I'm sure would. The

1918
01:41:36,133 --> 01:41:37,973
Speaker 19: only people who seem to be having any doubts about

1919
01:41:37,973 --> 01:41:40,413
Speaker 19: this are the board of Netball New Zealand. So I'm

1920
01:41:40,413 --> 01:41:41,973
Speaker 19: going to get the chair on this afternoon and find

1921
01:41:42,013 --> 01:41:44,053
Speaker 19: out where we are. Matt Winnoet is the chair of

1922
01:41:44,053 --> 01:41:46,413
Speaker 19: Netble New Zealand. Look, I think you know we all

1923
01:41:46,493 --> 01:41:48,893
Speaker 19: understand the fear that if they say yes to Grace

1924
01:41:48,933 --> 01:41:51,533
Speaker 19: Wiki then they risk or run the risk rather of

1925
01:41:51,533 --> 01:41:52,933
Speaker 19: a whole bunch of other players. And you know what,

1926
01:41:52,973 --> 01:41:54,773
Speaker 19: we'll leave the am Z at prem as well and

1927
01:41:54,813 --> 01:41:56,613
Speaker 19: go and play somewhere else. I actually don't think that's

1928
01:41:56,613 --> 01:41:59,453
Speaker 19: a risk. I don't think it's a real thing. Grace

1929
01:41:59,453 --> 01:42:03,213
Speaker 19: Wiki is an exceptional player and I just can't see

1930
01:42:03,213 --> 01:42:06,053
Speaker 19: that there are too many others who would be cherry

1931
01:42:06,093 --> 01:42:09,373
Speaker 19: picked by Australian team. So let's face it, already have

1932
01:42:09,693 --> 01:42:13,093
Speaker 19: a very strong domestic getball competition, Like, I just don't

1933
01:42:13,093 --> 01:42:16,453
Speaker 19: see you downside to letting Grace Wiki play for the

1934
01:42:16,453 --> 01:42:18,373
Speaker 19: Silver Funds this year. I can't find one.

1935
01:42:18,693 --> 01:42:23,493
Speaker 2: No, I like you say, it's just a slippery, slow argument, right,

1936
01:42:23,533 --> 01:42:25,973
Speaker 2: and we've had it in the past from Network. I'm

1937
01:42:25,973 --> 01:42:28,693
Speaker 2: just astonished that they still kind of have this eligibility

1938
01:42:28,773 --> 01:42:31,573
Speaker 2: rule in place. I mean, maybe maybe when you speak

1939
01:42:31,573 --> 01:42:33,213
Speaker 2: with the chair they can explain to us something we

1940
01:42:33,213 --> 01:42:34,973
Speaker 2: don't understand at the moment. We should go an open

1941
01:42:34,973 --> 01:42:36,773
Speaker 2: mind it. But I just like you say, it's not

1942
01:42:36,813 --> 01:42:40,813
Speaker 2: like Australia's desperate for netball talent, correct, And you know,

1943
01:42:40,933 --> 01:42:43,213
Speaker 2: I mean the mere fact that Grace wants to play

1944
01:42:43,213 --> 01:42:45,573
Speaker 2: over there is presumed because the standard of players higher.

1945
01:42:45,853 --> 01:42:50,333
Speaker 19: Yep, she wants to improve yourself, which is the commended, commended,

1946
01:42:50,533 --> 01:42:52,573
Speaker 19: rewarded even And you know the funny thing is Jack,

1947
01:42:52,573 --> 01:42:54,693
Speaker 19: that it doesn't work the other way. The Australian players

1948
01:42:54,693 --> 01:42:57,133
Speaker 19: who play over here are eligible for the diamonds.

1949
01:42:57,893 --> 01:42:58,053
Speaker 6: You know.

1950
01:42:58,133 --> 01:43:01,173
Speaker 19: It's yeah, anyway, well we'll unpack this with Matt one

1951
01:43:01,173 --> 01:43:03,173
Speaker 19: of day. Dig Wilson's gonna chep on this as well.

1952
01:43:03,573 --> 01:43:07,413
Speaker 19: And then and then Jack, I mean the Crusaders any

1953
01:43:07,493 --> 01:43:08,533
Speaker 19: chance against the Chiefs.

1954
01:43:09,013 --> 01:43:09,933
Speaker 3: Yes, what.

1955
01:43:14,253 --> 01:43:19,133
Speaker 2: Very droll, A bit too easily on that, didn't I like?

1956
01:43:19,173 --> 01:43:22,733
Speaker 2: I just I just I know, just like Coil, I

1957
01:43:22,373 --> 01:43:25,493
Speaker 2: know here on the back of my necks have stood

1958
01:43:25,533 --> 01:43:29,133
Speaker 2: unstantly and I reacted, Okay, yeah, game be a great game.

1959
01:43:29,173 --> 01:43:30,733
Speaker 2: Yeah I cannot wait for that. It sold out as

1960
01:43:30,773 --> 01:43:31,693
Speaker 2: well tonight.

1961
01:43:31,853 --> 01:43:33,933
Speaker 19: Yes, so good. And look, these are these are the

1962
01:43:33,973 --> 01:43:36,373
Speaker 19: games that we get excited. Look, I'm unlike you. I

1963
01:43:36,413 --> 01:43:38,013
Speaker 19: don't have any skin in this game, so I can

1964
01:43:38,133 --> 01:43:42,133
Speaker 19: just watch very very interested bystander. Look, I think you know,

1965
01:43:42,213 --> 01:43:45,013
Speaker 19: the Crusaders are clearly favorites. They're at home, they're playing well.

1966
01:43:45,613 --> 01:43:47,733
Speaker 19: You know, a win tonight would go a long way

1967
01:43:47,773 --> 01:43:51,213
Speaker 19: towards securing top Spottom. You know, the Crusaders. You know

1968
01:43:51,253 --> 01:43:54,013
Speaker 19: what it makes you wonder about last year, doesn't it.

1969
01:43:54,053 --> 01:43:55,573
Speaker 19: I know they were missing a couple of players and

1970
01:43:55,573 --> 01:43:58,893
Speaker 19: that sort of thing, But talk about an outlier, you know,

1971
01:43:58,973 --> 01:44:03,653
Speaker 19: in terms of Crusader's recent history. And full credit kudos

1972
01:44:03,693 --> 01:44:05,573
Speaker 19: to Rob Penny in the playing group for turning this

1973
01:44:05,613 --> 01:44:06,213
Speaker 19: around one hundred.

1974
01:44:06,613 --> 01:44:08,413
Speaker 2: I mean this time last year we were all saying, oh,

1975
01:44:08,413 --> 01:44:10,253
Speaker 2: this's definitely been gone. At the end of the season

1976
01:44:10,293 --> 01:44:13,933
Speaker 2: if not before, you know, it's amazing. It just kind

1977
01:44:13,933 --> 01:44:16,573
Speaker 2: of shows how sporting fortunes can change, you know, just

1978
01:44:16,813 --> 01:44:19,293
Speaker 2: just in such a short window. Sounds like a great show.

1979
01:44:19,333 --> 01:44:21,333
Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. Looking for at this after know Jason

1980
01:44:21,373 --> 01:44:23,773
Speaker 2: Pine with us right after the midday news on news

1981
01:44:23,813 --> 01:44:26,813
Speaker 2: Talks EDB with Weekend Sport before midday, we'll play you

1982
01:44:26,813 --> 01:44:29,133
Speaker 2: that Chaos and the CBD album. Next up, We've got

1983
01:44:29,133 --> 01:44:33,813
Speaker 2: your book picks for this weekend, including this incredible kind

1984
01:44:33,813 --> 01:44:37,453
Speaker 2: of expose of Facebook's top leadership by a New Zealander

1985
01:44:37,813 --> 01:44:41,213
Speaker 2: who used to call herself a Facebook executive twenty two to.

1986
01:44:41,173 --> 01:44:46,053
Speaker 1: Twelve, Saturday Morning with Jack Team Fulk Show podcast on

1987
01:44:46,213 --> 01:44:48,693
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by News Talks.

1988
01:44:48,493 --> 01:44:52,933
Speaker 2: EDB nineteen to twelve. Sarah Wynn Williams, the New Zealand

1989
01:44:52,973 --> 01:44:56,453
Speaker 2: former executive of Facebook, made headlines worldwide when her book

1990
01:44:56,613 --> 01:45:00,733
Speaker 2: Careless People was published, but of course she was banned

1991
01:45:00,973 --> 01:45:03,933
Speaker 2: because of legal action from doing any publicity around the book.

1992
01:45:03,973 --> 01:45:06,613
Speaker 2: Now our book reviewer Katain Rains has read Careless People.

1993
01:45:06,613 --> 01:45:09,173
Speaker 2: When she's with us now ko to Catherine Morning Jack,

1994
01:45:09,213 --> 01:45:10,053
Speaker 2: So tell us about it.

1995
01:45:11,093 --> 01:45:11,973
Speaker 10: So, look, it's.

1996
01:45:11,853 --> 01:45:13,813
Speaker 8: Really interesting, as you say, Sarah One Clark she's a

1997
01:45:13,933 --> 01:45:17,293
Speaker 8: former Meta Facebook employee, and she talks very much in

1998
01:45:17,333 --> 01:45:19,933
Speaker 8: the beginning of her book, actually she's attacked by a shark,

1999
01:45:20,093 --> 01:45:23,293
Speaker 8: and it actually kind of explains a lot about her

2000
01:45:23,493 --> 01:45:26,173
Speaker 8: as a person in the way she was right was raised.

2001
01:45:26,213 --> 01:45:29,053
Speaker 8: And she really describes herself as an idealist, and that's

2002
01:45:29,093 --> 01:45:31,293
Speaker 8: kind of worth having in the back of your mind

2003
01:45:31,373 --> 01:45:33,733
Speaker 8: when you're reading this book, because she's this theory of

2004
01:45:33,773 --> 01:45:36,693
Speaker 8: trying to change Facebook from the inside. And so she

2005
01:45:36,893 --> 01:45:41,293
Speaker 8: spent from twenty eleven to twenty seventeen essentially working in

2006
01:45:41,333 --> 01:45:45,253
Speaker 8: global policy for Facebook, and she gives readers a very

2007
01:45:45,253 --> 01:45:47,573
Speaker 8: behind the scenes look at what it was like working

2008
01:45:47,693 --> 01:45:51,413
Speaker 8: for Meta and people like Mark Zuckerberg and Cheryl Sandberg

2009
01:45:51,493 --> 01:45:55,293
Speaker 8: and Joel Kaplan, and she talks very very much about

2010
01:45:55,333 --> 01:45:59,493
Speaker 8: how toxic that workplace environment is. And then she looks

2011
01:45:59,573 --> 01:46:02,773
Speaker 8: at Facebook's global dealings and their desire to have an

2012
01:46:02,813 --> 01:46:05,893
Speaker 8: app available in every country and the process that entailed

2013
01:46:05,893 --> 01:46:09,133
Speaker 8: them to throw that and she naively, I think, thought

2014
01:46:09,653 --> 01:46:11,733
Speaker 8: that Facebook was doing it for good in the world

2015
01:46:11,733 --> 01:46:16,053
Speaker 8: and the power of connectivity, and she talks much more

2016
01:46:16,093 --> 01:46:18,213
Speaker 8: she gets through the book about how Facebook really lost

2017
01:46:18,253 --> 01:46:20,973
Speaker 8: its way and grows corrupt and careless about its impact

2018
01:46:21,013 --> 01:46:24,493
Speaker 8: on people, particularly marginalized people across the world. And I

2019
01:46:24,493 --> 01:46:26,613
Speaker 8: do think a little bit about how Sarah's kind of

2020
01:46:26,693 --> 01:46:28,893
Speaker 8: responsibility in this, and you know, this was a job

2021
01:46:28,893 --> 01:46:31,853
Speaker 8: that she really wanted and she really wanted to help

2022
01:46:31,933 --> 01:46:34,293
Speaker 8: shape the policy and the company into something good. And

2023
01:46:34,293 --> 01:46:36,133
Speaker 8: I think that really comes back to sort of how

2024
01:46:36,413 --> 01:46:40,453
Speaker 8: she sees herself as an idealist. And it's it's fascinating

2025
01:46:40,533 --> 01:46:43,293
Speaker 8: reading and you know how so many people in the

2026
01:46:43,293 --> 01:46:46,533
Speaker 8: world now are just careless out for themselves and you know,

2027
01:46:46,613 --> 01:46:49,413
Speaker 8: that battle of egos and greed and desire for more power.

2028
01:46:49,573 --> 01:46:52,213
Speaker 8: And so I think she probably reflects what a lot

2029
01:46:52,253 --> 01:46:55,733
Speaker 8: of ex employees have spoken about some and veiled references

2030
01:46:55,813 --> 01:46:58,293
Speaker 8: a lot of people anonymously, and she's chosen ready to

2031
01:46:58,293 --> 01:47:01,173
Speaker 8: come out and write about that experience and how social

2032
01:47:01,213 --> 01:47:04,133
Speaker 8: media has completely changed in the place that we're in

2033
01:47:04,613 --> 01:47:06,973
Speaker 8: with social media now, and how it affects our lives

2034
01:47:06,973 --> 01:47:09,253
Speaker 8: and the impact that it has on you know, people

2035
01:47:09,333 --> 01:47:11,813
Speaker 8: my age, but also you know, you look at how

2036
01:47:12,013 --> 01:47:13,973
Speaker 8: the impact it has on kids that have really grown

2037
01:47:14,053 --> 01:47:15,973
Speaker 8: up with us. So I think she she writes a

2038
01:47:16,013 --> 01:47:20,053
Speaker 8: really interesting, you know, kind of thought process behind this,

2039
01:47:20,173 --> 01:47:22,093
Speaker 8: And I think it's kind of an interesting point to

2040
01:47:22,133 --> 01:47:24,573
Speaker 8: throw in the mix when you're looking at social media.

2041
01:47:24,653 --> 01:47:26,853
Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay, cool, I can't wait to read that.

2042
01:47:26,853 --> 01:47:29,573
Speaker 2: That's Careless People by Sarah and Williams. You've also read

2043
01:47:29,853 --> 01:47:34,173
Speaker 2: My Name Is Amelia del Vaillier by Isabelle Allende.

2044
01:47:34,453 --> 01:47:37,013
Speaker 8: So this is set in Chile in the eighteen eighties

2045
01:47:37,053 --> 01:47:40,293
Speaker 8: and Amelia Develle doesn't have the most or especially start

2046
01:47:40,293 --> 01:47:44,053
Speaker 8: really in life. Her wealthyacher Chilean father abandons her mother,

2047
01:47:44,093 --> 01:47:47,893
Speaker 8: Wally Welsh, before she's even born, but Molli remarries, and

2048
01:47:48,093 --> 01:47:52,373
Speaker 8: Amelia really regards her stepfather as her real father in

2049
01:47:52,413 --> 01:47:55,933
Speaker 8: a sense, and it's his encouragement and with her desire

2050
01:47:55,973 --> 01:47:58,533
Speaker 8: to write, and she starts out writing these dime novels

2051
01:47:58,533 --> 01:48:01,693
Speaker 8: which are published under the name of Brandon Price, and

2052
01:48:01,773 --> 01:48:04,133
Speaker 8: it's him that kind of really, you know, sets that

2053
01:48:04,453 --> 01:48:07,213
Speaker 8: like that light of writing in her. And then eventually,

2054
01:48:07,253 --> 01:48:09,293
Speaker 8: when she grows up, she persuades a mister Chamberlain it

2055
01:48:09,333 --> 01:48:11,573
Speaker 8: the Examiner in San Francisco, to take her on as

2056
01:48:11,613 --> 01:48:14,133
Speaker 8: a journalist and she's offered the chance to go to

2057
01:48:14,173 --> 01:48:17,493
Speaker 8: Chile in eighteen ninety one when civil war is brewing,

2058
01:48:17,733 --> 01:48:20,053
Speaker 8: and you get this real first person narrative, and it

2059
01:48:20,093 --> 01:48:22,653
Speaker 8: gives the real feeling of a memoir, and you meet

2060
01:48:22,693 --> 01:48:25,053
Speaker 8: the people she meets along the way, and the acquaintances

2061
01:48:25,093 --> 01:48:28,413
Speaker 8: and interesting characters, and the story of a journalist, and

2062
01:48:28,453 --> 01:48:30,813
Speaker 8: the descriptions of the place like San Francisco and New

2063
01:48:30,893 --> 01:48:34,853
Speaker 8: York and Santiago almost feel like you're right there. And

2064
01:48:34,893 --> 01:48:36,893
Speaker 8: the description of the events and the people in the

2065
01:48:36,893 --> 01:48:40,013
Speaker 8: political censure situation, and the fact that as a journalist

2066
01:48:40,053 --> 01:48:43,133
Speaker 8: in eighteen eighties that's almost unheard of. Soe this read

2067
01:48:43,253 --> 01:48:45,533
Speaker 8: this picture of this very strong woman, deeply connected with

2068
01:48:45,573 --> 01:48:48,253
Speaker 8: her family and culture, and it has a wonderful sense

2069
01:48:48,293 --> 01:48:51,253
Speaker 8: of time and place. And the translation from its original

2070
01:48:51,453 --> 01:48:54,373
Speaker 8: Spanish is superb. And if you love Isabella Lende then

2071
01:48:54,453 --> 01:48:56,333
Speaker 8: you will absolutely want to read.

2072
01:48:56,133 --> 01:48:59,453
Speaker 2: This fantastic Okay, that's my name is Emilia del Valler.

2073
01:48:59,813 --> 01:49:02,653
Speaker 2: And Careless People by Sarah and Williams is Catherine's first book.

2074
01:49:02,733 --> 01:49:05,413
Speaker 2: Both of those would of course be on the website.

2075
01:49:05,013 --> 01:49:07,613
Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to know.

2076
01:49:07,813 --> 01:49:10,973
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and Bpure dot co dot

2077
01:49:11,093 --> 01:49:14,013
Speaker 1: in for high quality Supplements, US Talk sat B.

2078
01:49:24,173 --> 01:49:27,533
Speaker 2: This this cherlay does it remind you of anywhere The

2079
01:49:27,613 --> 01:49:30,133
Speaker 2: song is called or Tucky. It's by Chaos in the

2080
01:49:30,173 --> 01:49:34,093
Speaker 2: CBD You featuring Fin Reese. Stele Clifford has been listening

2081
01:49:34,133 --> 01:49:36,853
Speaker 2: to Chaos in the CBD's first day album, A Deeper Life,

2082
01:49:36,893 --> 01:49:37,933
Speaker 2: and she's with this good morning.

2083
01:49:38,733 --> 01:49:41,453
Speaker 20: Yeah, something a little different for us, with a bit

2084
01:49:41,493 --> 01:49:43,693
Speaker 20: of a chill. I think maybe I'm just trying to

2085
01:49:43,733 --> 01:49:44,533
Speaker 20: cling to summer.

2086
01:49:45,293 --> 01:49:47,933
Speaker 2: Yes, like a sunny this album.

2087
01:49:47,973 --> 01:49:51,453
Speaker 20: Actually, Chaos and the CBD kind of is like you're

2088
01:49:51,533 --> 01:49:54,733
Speaker 20: like a slow Sunday, brewing the coffee, reading the paper

2089
01:49:55,373 --> 01:49:57,373
Speaker 20: when you didn't have to do things before nine because

2090
01:49:57,373 --> 01:49:58,893
Speaker 20: you didn't have small humans.

2091
01:49:58,533 --> 01:50:00,893
Speaker 2: In your Yes, it's sort of an irony because you

2092
01:50:00,893 --> 01:50:03,893
Speaker 2: hear Chaos and the CBD and you're anticipating some like

2093
01:50:03,933 --> 01:50:05,853
Speaker 2: either hip hop or death metal or something. You know,

2094
01:50:05,933 --> 01:50:09,333
Speaker 2: you're expert some chaos and madness exactly.

2095
01:50:09,413 --> 01:50:12,573
Speaker 20: And so the name of them is like quite a

2096
01:50:12,613 --> 01:50:14,533
Speaker 20: different thing of where this album is. And I think

2097
01:50:14,573 --> 01:50:16,413
Speaker 20: because some of their music, look, they have been on

2098
01:50:16,453 --> 01:50:20,093
Speaker 20: that house House e beetha kind of.

2099
01:50:20,133 --> 01:50:23,173
Speaker 2: Party zone, haven't we all right?

2100
01:50:23,293 --> 01:50:25,573
Speaker 20: But I think also they're kind of part of the

2101
01:50:26,133 --> 01:50:28,093
Speaker 20: chill zone, you know, the calm down I think that

2102
01:50:28,133 --> 01:50:32,213
Speaker 20: they actually supplied the music for the comdown one of

2103
01:50:32,213 --> 01:50:34,453
Speaker 20: the one of their co left, so this is the

2104
01:50:34,453 --> 01:50:37,853
Speaker 20: first time on their music and it's also their debut album.

2105
01:50:37,933 --> 01:50:39,773
Speaker 20: So they've been doing this for like over a decade,

2106
01:50:40,333 --> 01:50:42,133
Speaker 20: but this is the first time they've put a body

2107
01:50:42,133 --> 01:50:44,213
Speaker 20: of work together into an album. So this has got

2108
01:50:44,213 --> 01:50:48,413
Speaker 20: a lot of featured artists, one being Nathan Haynes, which

2109
01:50:48,453 --> 01:50:52,373
Speaker 20: is pretty awesome, and so he plays sex on one

2110
01:50:52,373 --> 01:50:54,253
Speaker 20: of the songs, He's in another one with his help

2111
01:50:54,333 --> 01:50:57,173
Speaker 20: write and all the rest of it too. He's actually

2112
01:50:57,213 --> 01:51:00,533
Speaker 20: playing at the Stables and Mutterkhana tonight if anyone needs

2113
01:51:00,573 --> 01:51:02,933
Speaker 20: a little drive somewhere north. I saw that on the

2114
01:51:02,933 --> 01:51:04,693
Speaker 20: bathroom door when I was at a wedding there in

2115
01:51:04,733 --> 01:51:07,293
Speaker 20: the week. But he's one of those artists that kind

2116
01:51:07,293 --> 01:51:10,333
Speaker 20: of pops up a Nathan Haynes that people do some

2117
01:51:10,413 --> 01:51:11,213
Speaker 20: cool work works, and.

2118
01:51:11,173 --> 01:51:11,693
Speaker 9: I think.

2119
01:51:13,493 --> 01:51:15,733
Speaker 20: Absolutely and this album is a bit of that too.

2120
01:51:15,893 --> 01:51:20,093
Speaker 20: Actually it's yeah, it's clever, and it's kind of because

2121
01:51:20,173 --> 01:51:21,853
Speaker 20: I don't know if I've necessarily listened to a lot

2122
01:51:21,853 --> 01:51:24,413
Speaker 20: of house music, but this is one of those ones

2123
01:51:24,453 --> 01:51:27,533
Speaker 20: that you can easily just either you're needing a bit

2124
01:51:27,573 --> 01:51:29,413
Speaker 20: of a daydream and a chill out, but there's also

2125
01:51:29,573 --> 01:51:32,493
Speaker 20: enough of a beats to not completely make it sleep,

2126
01:51:32,573 --> 01:51:34,653
Speaker 20: you know. Like they sort of said they wanted this

2127
01:51:34,773 --> 01:51:37,653
Speaker 20: album to be something that actually makes us all to

2128
01:51:37,693 --> 01:51:41,693
Speaker 20: slow down a little bit, take a breath, take it easy.

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Speaker 20: They're really embraced because these guys have been living over

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Speaker 20: in London, I believe for like the last ten years,

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01:51:49,093 --> 01:51:53,213
Speaker 20: but definitely well and truly entrenched in their Keywi upbringing

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01:51:53,253 --> 01:51:56,013
Speaker 20: on the north Shore in Auckland, and so this has

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Speaker 20: got quite a lot of ambiance of beautiful birds the ocean,

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01:52:01,253 --> 01:52:03,173
Speaker 20: like it really takes you to a place, and I

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01:52:03,173 --> 01:52:05,373
Speaker 20: think that's quite clever when you then still also have

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01:52:05,493 --> 01:52:09,173
Speaker 20: these really rhythm that sounds and beats and instruments that

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01:52:09,293 --> 01:52:12,733
Speaker 20: go through your music. They've also named a lot of

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01:52:12,733 --> 01:52:14,293
Speaker 20: the tracks, which I think, because they're quite big on

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01:52:14,293 --> 01:52:17,093
Speaker 20: the international scene, will be interesting for an international audience.

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01:52:17,613 --> 01:52:22,693
Speaker 20: Or tucky tongue bed or crossing. One's called Marlborough but

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01:52:22,773 --> 01:52:24,853
Speaker 20: more like the Siggi's. It's about like the Siggis as

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01:52:24,853 --> 01:52:27,573
Speaker 20: opposed to the Just to make sure you.

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Speaker 2: Know some Marlburg Blue all had.

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Speaker 20: One of those uncles used to make you go the

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01:52:35,093 --> 01:52:39,373
Speaker 20: dairy get those And actually Louis who he's said about

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01:52:39,373 --> 01:52:40,973
Speaker 20: this that it is a real love letter to home

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01:52:41,053 --> 01:52:43,813
Speaker 20: for them, which makes me think maybe they're a bit

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01:52:43,853 --> 01:52:45,533
Speaker 20: homestick and they need to come back and sit on

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Speaker 20: a beach and listen to some birds and stuff. But yeah,

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Speaker 20: I think it's going to be a really interesting thing

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01:52:51,453 --> 01:52:53,493
Speaker 20: for an international audience to hear some of these tunes,

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Speaker 20: I think. So it starts with an opener that just

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01:52:56,693 --> 01:52:59,373
Speaker 20: it's called down by the Cove, and it's exactly that.

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01:52:59,453 --> 01:53:05,373
Speaker 20: It's not this tranquil hypnotic start or tucky features finnres

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01:53:05,453 --> 01:53:08,173
Speaker 20: so little shout out there to the Kapri horror Fenal

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01:53:08,213 --> 01:53:10,893
Speaker 20: in mates. But it's got a somber beat underneath, and

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01:53:10,973 --> 01:53:12,733
Speaker 20: again I think that's the thing you'll find. You'll be

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Speaker 20: able to chill out with this album. But again it's

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Speaker 20: still got that rhythm you know when you walk into

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Speaker 20: like a cool gallery or a cafe, you know those

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Speaker 20: kind of tricks come on.

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01:53:23,493 --> 01:53:26,573
Speaker 2: No, I'm teasing. It was merely intimating that I'm knowing

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Speaker 2: the corner. Do you ever have time to go to

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Speaker 2: a call a cafe? But no, I know exactly what

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Speaker 2: you mean.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, like it really it's kind of a cool scene,

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01:53:33,773 --> 01:53:36,373
Speaker 20: and it's it's really kind of actually, it gave me

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Speaker 20: a real excuse to sort of just relax and let

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Speaker 20: go a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to throw out a genre that I

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01:53:41,133 --> 01:53:44,493
Speaker 2: haven't heard anyone reference in about twenty years, urban jazz.

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01:53:44,853 --> 01:53:47,653
Speaker 2: Do you remember that urban jazz? It is kind of

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01:53:47,693 --> 01:53:49,773
Speaker 2: like a little bit dancy, a little bit jazzy, a

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01:53:49,773 --> 01:53:54,853
Speaker 2: little bit like kind of dancy, you know, like, yeah.

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01:53:54,613 --> 01:53:56,693
Speaker 20: Actually, you know what, that's actually probably a really good

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01:53:56,733 --> 01:53:59,413
Speaker 20: way to put it. It's got the ambient stuff, it's

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01:53:59,413 --> 01:54:01,533
Speaker 20: got a bit of soul jazz. Some of the featured

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01:54:01,573 --> 01:54:04,053
Speaker 20: singers probably bring a little bit of that as well. Yeah, true,

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Speaker 20: So yeah, urban urban's to put it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I hadn't listened to the album, so I'm

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01:54:08,733 --> 01:54:10,453
Speaker 2: very much putting ways. But the way that you're kind

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Speaker 2: of describing this confluence of different musical genres, I think.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I think I think it probably is there, I think.

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Speaker 12: And also just.

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Speaker 20: Embracing that real sort of energy that summer in the

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01:54:21,013 --> 01:54:23,493
Speaker 20: sun breezer. Yeah, if you're needing to embrace a bit

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01:54:23,493 --> 01:54:26,013
Speaker 20: of that this weekend, and maybe this is your your

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01:54:26,053 --> 01:54:28,213
Speaker 20: good one for that. The track you're going to play

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01:54:28,653 --> 01:54:32,133
Speaker 20: after this is called Tears, and it features Saucy Lady,

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01:54:32,533 --> 01:54:35,853
Speaker 20: which I just I love her alter ego names Ladder.

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01:54:37,253 --> 01:54:39,533
Speaker 20: She is a funk soul artist, so you know that

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01:54:39,733 --> 01:54:42,733
Speaker 20: urban funk soul thing definitely sort of exists with her.

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01:54:42,933 --> 01:54:47,493
Speaker 20: She really is embracing that seventies eighties era her style

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01:54:47,573 --> 01:54:49,933
Speaker 20: and also her voice. But it just goes so good

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01:54:49,933 --> 01:54:52,413
Speaker 20: with what they've created on the track with her, So

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01:54:52,693 --> 01:54:54,893
Speaker 20: maybe this is where they're heading. Like some more featured

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01:54:54,973 --> 01:54:58,253
Speaker 20: artists bring some extra sort of layers onto it, you know,

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01:54:58,613 --> 01:55:00,973
Speaker 20: some boys stuff, but there's also lots of instrumental.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you've got the voice sometimes and then other

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01:55:04,253 --> 01:55:07,053
Speaker 2: times that there's no kind of there are no yeah

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Speaker 2: right yeah, and.

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Speaker 20: You know sometimes people are wanting to album missing along,

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01:55:09,653 --> 01:55:10,973
Speaker 20: so it's probably not that so much.

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Speaker 2: No yeah, no, no no. That sounds great though. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so what did you give it? A Deeper life by

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Speaker 2: cows CBD.

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Speaker 20: I've really enjoyed this. It's an eight out of teen

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Speaker 20: form boys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah great, it sounds like a good little weekend listener reckon, Hey,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much. As Telle, Like I said, we'll

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Speaker 2: play a little bit more in a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 3: A cracking way to start your Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Saturday mornings with Jack Day and vpure dot co dot

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Speaker 1: ins head for high quality supplements, News Talk sa'd be wash.

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Speaker 2: And just like that, another morning together is done. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for all of your messages throughout the morning.

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Speaker 2: On News Talks, head b Jason Pine is behind the

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Speaker 2: mic this afternoon with Weekend Sport. Looking at the Grace

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Speaker 2: Thanks to my producer Libby for doing all of the

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Speaker 2: difficult stuff and just letting me talk smack. We're going

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Speaker 2: to leave you with chaos and the CBD. The new

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Speaker 2: album is a Deeper Life. This song's called Tears. I'll

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Speaker 2: see you next week.

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Speaker 21: Shut stop that fu Shure.

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Speaker 17: Jess gets stop.

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Speaker 21: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen live

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