1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight Early with one 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: room to make your property search simple us. 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: Dogs, it'd be good morning, welcome to Early Edition. I'm 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: Francesca Rudkin filling in for Brian Bridge this morning. Ryan's 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: going to be back with you on Monday. Gosh, here 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: we are Thursday and it's the end of the week already, 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: well for most of us. Good to have you with us. 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: You conflict me text anytime this morning on ninety two 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: ninety two, or you can email me at Francesca at 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: NEWSTALGSTV dot co dot MZ. On the show today, we 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: get the details on new protections that could see banks 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: required to reimburse fraud victims up to half a million dollars. 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: We seem to be getting over the stigma of using 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: AI with more people openly using it at work, but 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: what impact is it having on our jobs? And we 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: find out what the early childhood education sector thinks of 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: the government's new regulations for them. 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: The agenda. 19 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: It's Thursday, twenty fourth of April. First to the US 20 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: and Vice President J. D. Varnes has threatened to abandon 21 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: peace negotiations between Russia and Ukraine if the US led 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: peace proposal is not accepted. 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: He issued a very explicit proposal to both the Russians 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: and the Ukrainians, and it's time for them to either 25 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: say yes or for the United States to walk away 26 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: from this process. 27 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: This comes as Secretary of State Marco Rubio withdrawals from 28 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: a major meeting in London aimed at bringing an end 29 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: to the war in Ukraine. Vance says the proposal would 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: freeze territorial lines at a level close to where they 31 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: are today. Elon Musk has announced the time he spends 32 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: on DOGE is going to decrease. It's going to drop significantly, 33 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: I would say. He says the role has taken his 34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: eyes off Tessa, which has reported a huge drop and 35 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: profit and sales for the start of the year. 36 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: On Tuesday, Musk blasted his detractor, saying that his work 37 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: at DOGE is critical and that it is mostly done. 38 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: In his words, plans to spend quite a bit less 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: time on DOGE starting next month and. 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: To Rome and tens of thousands of queuing to pay 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: respects to Pope Francis. 42 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 4: It is not surprised that there are such massive crowds 43 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: in sam Peter Square throwing this morning to see the 44 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 4: remains of poor Francis in queues to get into ques 45 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 4: both with then Saint Peter's itself and outside in the square, 46 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 4: and indeed extending further down into the streets surrounding the 47 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: Square of Sam Peters. 48 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: Today the crowds are hopeful for just a short glimpse 49 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: of the two hundred and sixty sixth Bishop of Rome. 50 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: Of the two hundred thousand are expected to descend on 51 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 2: the Vatican the Saturdays of funeral and that's the agenda. 52 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition. Where's one 53 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: roof to make your property search simple? 54 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: News talks it'd be I'm very interested to talk to 55 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: the Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs, Scott Simpson this 56 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: morning about New Zealand Banking Association Association's new consumer protections 57 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: against fraud. They're going to roll these out over the 58 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: next seven months or so because we have been slow 59 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: in getting up to speed with battling scams in fraud. 60 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 2: The other hands, scammers, frauds does criminals that are siphoning 61 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: off hundreds of millions of dollars out in New Zealand 62 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: are just getting better at what they do. Banks have 63 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: claimed to have state of the art banking prevention, but 64 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: we are behind what other countries have implemented. And you 65 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: only have to look at some of the scams and 66 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: you can see there are gaps where by the bank 67 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: could have picked up a red flag and a transaction. 68 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: So look, anyway that we can reduce risk the better, right. 69 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: One of the things that they've done is release this 70 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 2: confirmation of pay your service. Have you used that? Have 71 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: you had to put a new paye in and use this? 72 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: I haven't been hugely impressed with it. It is, of 73 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: course for customers to check that the name of the 74 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: person they are paying matches the account number. It's a 75 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: really good idea, but it doesn't work because no one 76 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: gives you both the name of the company or the 77 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: name of the account and then the nickname of the account. 78 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: So I've done it about five times and not once 79 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: have they matched. And then of course we're all paranoid 80 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: because we don't want the headline to read. You know, 81 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 2: radio host just ignores the new you know, the new 82 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: protections put in place, and you know, sends money to 83 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: someone they shouldn't have. So then the next thing you know, 84 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: you're on the phone, you're ringing the people you're trying 85 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: to make as a payee and you're confirming it and 86 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 2: they're saying to you, oh yeah, we're getting lots of 87 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: calls about this. Anyway, it loses its power if we're 88 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: not using it correctly. So businesses need to be up 89 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: to speed with the information they provide, providing you with 90 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: those key bits of information so when you put it 91 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: in and you click the button, it goes, yes, you've 92 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: got the right person. Anyway, new commitments from banks mean 93 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: that if a bank fails to adequately warn and protect 94 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: a consumer from a scam, they will reimburse the victim 95 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 2: up to five hundred thousand. And this is excellent news, 96 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: but it's not going to help everyone and banks shouldn't 97 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: be responsible across the board if you lose money and 98 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: a scam. Being scammed is horrific. It's traumatic and life 99 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: changing for people. And they may have done things right, 100 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: you know, done their due diligence, ticked the boxes and 101 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: yet still got conned. But the bank can only be 102 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: responsible for their part in it if they had a 103 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: part in it and other words, failed to prevent it 104 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: when they could have. So to be honest, this does 105 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: sound like a fair approach. We're going to talk more 106 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: about this shortly. Can you hear your thoughts though? Does 107 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: that make you feel a little bit more comfortable that 108 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: the banks are stepping up and also that there's a 109 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: potential that you will be reimbursed if the bank's mister 110 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: mister step in things and you lose your money. Ninety 111 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: two ninety two is the text you're with Early edition. 112 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: It airs at twelve past five. 113 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: News and Views You Trust has done Your day is 114 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: early edition with one roof make your Property search simple. 115 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: News Dogs that be fourteen past five. So as I 116 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: was just talking about, Banks will be required to reimburse 117 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: fraud victims up to half a million dollars under the 118 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: new scam protections. The suite of measures also includes providing 119 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,119 Speaker 2: a twenty four to seven scam reporting channel and banks 120 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: during information on scammers with each other to help prevent 121 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: criminal activity. The changes will be delivered through an update 122 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: to the Code of Banking Practice. Minister of Commerce and 123 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: Consumer Affairs Scott Simpson joins me. Now, thanks for your time, Scott, 124 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: Good morning. 125 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 5: Good morning, Francesco. 126 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: Okay, how involved were you in creating these protections? 127 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 5: Well, our government's been urging banks take a greater responsibility 128 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 5: for protecting their customers for some time. So I'm the 129 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 5: government's lead on anti scams as Minister, and it's work 130 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 5: that I and my predecessor have been doing now for 131 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 5: well since this government came to office. 132 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: Who is eligible for compensation if a bank fails to 133 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: meet these new protection commitments. 134 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 5: Well, bank customers that meet certain criteria. And this is 135 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 5: not a regime that's going to mean that everybody has covered, 136 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 5: but that will mean, for instance, that if you take 137 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 5: responsibility for your online transactions, your banking transactions in a 138 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 5: way that is careful, prudent and responsible, the banks will 139 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 5: cover you if they have let you down as their 140 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 5: banking provider if you've been scammed. 141 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: How effective has the confirmation of paye system been already, 142 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: because that the rollout of that's already been completed. And 143 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: I was just making the comment there that you know 144 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: it's not working at the moment because businesses aren't aware 145 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: that they need to give the account owner's name and 146 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: then a nickname. So every time I do it, it 147 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: doesn't match up. Scott. 148 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,679 Speaker 5: Ironically, Francesca, every time you use it it gets better 149 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 5: because it's exactly those sorts of things. So over a 150 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 5: period of time, for instance, if someone wants to send 151 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 5: me some money as Scott Simpson, or maybe my bank 152 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 5: account is s Simpson, that isn't a complete match. But 153 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 5: over time the banks get better at it. Now not 154 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 5: every bank is up to speed with it completely yet. 155 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 5: That's part of the reason why these new initiatives don't 156 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 5: come fully into effect until the end of November. It's 157 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 5: in order to allow banks time to get the processes 158 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 5: and the technology in place to have it up and 159 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 5: running completely. 160 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: And to be fair, Scott, that's a user issue, not 161 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: necessarily the system issue. It's just us getting used to it, 162 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: isn't it. 163 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 164 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: Look having a look at the list of these measures, 165 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: I mean, banks are already doing some of these things, 166 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: aren't they. They're already sort of you know, shutting down 167 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: if they see a dodgy looking transaction and things. So 168 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: putting these measures officially in place, is it actually more 169 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: about allowing customers to hold banks to account. 170 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 5: Yes, it will hold banks to account. But remember, in 171 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 5: the scam ecosystem, banks aren't the only player. There are 172 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 5: digital platform form providers who are the providers that allow 173 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 5: the scam. Sometimes to work. There are the telco companies 174 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 5: that allow messages to be sent over their networks, So 175 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 5: I want the other player in the scam ecosystem to 176 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 5: step up in the same way that banks have done. 177 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 5: They put a role to play as well, and I'm 178 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 5: hoping that we can get a similar set of protocols 179 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 5: from the telco companies and the digital platform providers as well. 180 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: So you're happy with what the banks have come up 181 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: with here or would you like them to continue sort 182 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: of moving forward in the space. 183 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 5: Well, this isn't a silver bullet. Scams are very prevalent. 184 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 5: Scammers are very clever, they're very persistent, they're very energetic. 185 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 5: So this isn't going to stop all scams, but it 186 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 5: is a very big step forward. I'm delighted that the 187 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 5: banks have taken this initiative in conjunction government. It's a 188 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 5: very good step. I want others to do the same 189 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 5: sort of thing. But it just means that people still 190 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 5: have to be careful, they still have to be prudent, 191 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 5: and they still have to be alert and aware of 192 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 5: what they're doing in terms of their banking transactions and 193 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 5: their digital interactions and the interactions they have with their 194 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 5: telco companies as well. 195 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: Scott, thanks so much for your time this morning. That 196 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: was the Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs to hear 197 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: what you think about the actions that the bank have taken. 198 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: You can text on ninety two ninety two right. Ninety 199 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: one percent of keyp WE workers are using generative AI 200 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: to assist them in their day to day tasks and 201 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: apparently we're really open about it now, we're all admitting it. 202 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: We find out what impact though it might be having 203 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: on the importance of human employees. Next, it is eighteen 204 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: past five. 205 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: You with early edition, Rely edition with one roof I 206 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: make your property search a simple news talg Sidby. 207 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: It's twenty past five. New research from Robert Harf finds 208 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: ninety one percent of workers are using AI to help 209 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: with their day to day tasks and ninety three percent 210 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: are open with their higher ups about using it, but 211 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: as it reducing the importance of human employees. Tech commentator 212 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: Oscar how is with us this morning? 213 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 6: Good morning, Oscar, morning Francesca, thank you for having me on. 214 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: It used to be seen as almost cheating, didn't it. 215 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: We sort of hit the fact that we might be 216 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: using AI, but is the perception of AI changing. 217 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 6: I think so. I think a lot of employees, especially 218 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 6: in traditional desk rolls, really opening themselves up to using 219 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 6: AI and their daily jobs, and they're not afraid to 220 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 6: be talking with their managers about it. 221 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: Why are we suddenly so open about using it? 222 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 7: I don't know. 223 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 6: There was almost a shift in the culture. Really, a 224 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 6: new research out of Robert Half of the crypt agency 225 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 6: you mentioned fifty six are using it on a daily 226 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 6: or near daily basis. You know, maybe the advancement of 227 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 6: some of these AI tools that were seeing are making it, 228 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 6: you know, are making their workloads so their ability to 229 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 6: work so efficient that it's something that you kind of 230 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 6: just have to bring up, you know. I mean, if 231 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 6: you can turn around a report in thirty seconds that 232 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 6: might have taken you a week, perhaps your manager may 233 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 6: have started off in questions, so it might be it 234 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 6: might pay to be forthright in these situations. 235 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I've been told by a few HR 236 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: people that actually, these days, you know, they are looking 237 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: for people who understand how to use it, as opposed 238 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: to once upon a time, you know, implying that you know, 239 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: kind of cheating on your job. 240 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 7: Yeah. 241 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 6: No, I think it's becoming a real staple of a 242 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 6: lot of desk jobs. And I think, like you mentioned, 243 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 6: businesses are looking for people who have more than just 244 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 6: a cursory understanding of how AI works. Obviously, it's allowing 245 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 6: people to become more efficient. It's allowing them to get 246 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 6: their work done quicker and takes a lot of the 247 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 6: workload off. And yeah, I mean there's also the fact 248 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 6: that it can help, you know, having an understanding of 249 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 6: AI can help you, you know, spot scams, spot when 250 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 6: it's used maybe not so well. And yeah, I think 251 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 6: it's just improving people's ability to work. 252 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: What are the impacts of such a huge increase? Are 253 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: we putting jobs at risk? 254 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 6: I mean, that seems to be the fear at the moment, 255 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 6: right And I almost wonder if a lot of these 256 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 6: people who are upskilling in the use of AI might 257 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 6: be doing so with that understanding that perhaps, you know, 258 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 6: if they're not on top of things, will maybe coming 259 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 6: to their jobs. I mean, at this point, eight percent 260 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 6: of work are sampled in this survey said that they 261 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 6: think it's necessary for career success in the future. And yeah, 262 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 6: I tend to agree because I mean, if you, like 263 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 6: I said, like we said, it's so powerful and it 264 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 6: can turn around a lot of these creative or desk 265 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 6: roll you know, for a lot of these jobs. That 266 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 6: can turn around a lot of this work so quickly. Yeah, 267 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 6: I think there's a real possibility that some of these 268 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 6: roles might find themselves outpaced by technology in the next 269 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 6: few years. 270 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: Oscar, thank you so much for your thoughts this morning. 271 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. And of course we were talking yesterday 272 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: about the Oscars and how they've mentioned that, you know, 273 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: if you happen to use AI in your film, that 274 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that you won't win an Oscar. You were 275 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 2: still eligible and have an opportunity to win one of 276 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: the big Oscars. The reason they had to say that 277 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: was because actually, somewhere along the line in Hollywood, when 278 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 2: someone makes a film, AI is being used, whether it's 279 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: being used in the production stage and the post production stage, 280 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: Somewhere along the way, everybody's quietly using it. They didn't 281 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: want to admit it, but they are actually all quietly 282 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: using it in different ways. It is twenty four past five. 283 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: It was Newstalks a B See Fily Edition full show 284 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio. Power It by Newstalks at B. 285 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: It's twenty six past five. Sometimes being the grown up 286 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: in the room is deeply unfulfilling. Pragmatic, sensible, considering consequences, 287 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: taking a long term view. They're all good, admirable words, 288 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: and we should take some solace in them. But sometimes 289 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: I think we'd rather just throw a plate at the wall. 290 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: And so it is with the government's response yesterday to 291 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: the Trump tariffs, essentially to roll over and take it. Understandable, sure, sensible, yep. Frustrating, 292 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: very The government confirmed we're not in the queue to 293 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: negotiate a trade deal with President Trump's administration, nor are 294 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: we interested in taking legal action over it, and the 295 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: tariff hit will come after export has had an excellent 296 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: March and it's a shame the party music has had 297 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: a bum note. We want the growth, we want good 298 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: export news, but without the dark tariff cloud lingering in 299 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: the distance. As Trade Minister Todd mcla yesterday, we probably 300 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: couldn't negotiate between below the current ten percent rate, and 301 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: the legal process would be a long winded affair that 302 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: would probably go nowhere. And I'm presuming, like the majority 303 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: of us who aren't diplomats and haven't been in a 304 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: room negotiating a trade deal. This is a well considered plan, 305 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: one based on experience and insider information, but perhaps also 306 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: because making a fast good have unintended consequences and result 307 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: in even higher tariffs. It also makes sense to keep 308 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: our head down into our two biggest trading partners, China 309 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: and US have sorted out their own tiff. We need 310 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: to ensure both of feeling valued by US and not 311 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: be seen to take sides as we focus on growing 312 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: our trade markets. Will the plate throwers get sensible? Trump 313 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: stated during a White House a White House news conference 314 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: that the final tariff rate with China would come down 315 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: substantially from the current one hundred and forty forty five percent. 316 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: He said the US would be very nice to China 317 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: and not play hardball. Trump's remarks towards China come on 318 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: the same day that i AM released a new report 319 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: showing the United States faces the biggest downgrade among advanced 320 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: countries due to the increase in tarists and the uncertainty 321 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: of cause. The IMF predicts the US economy will grow 322 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: one point eight percent this year, down from the estimated 323 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: two point seven percent, and there's a forty percent chance 324 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: of recession. So as this a case, of Trump blinking 325 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: and a first sign of some steps towards stabilizing global trade. 326 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: This as a move by Trump to calm the nerves. 327 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: The markets short responded well to both Trump's tariff call 328 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: on China and his remarks he has no intention of 329 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: firing the Federal Reserve chair. I don't think anyone knows 330 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: what's to come next or how Trump will respond to 331 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: Chinese social media hashtags such as Trump admitted defeat. But 332 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: I much prefer the adult Trump rather than the one 333 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: throwing plates. In the meantime, New Zealand shall remain patient 334 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: and diplomatic, settle in and see what change may occur 335 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: again before the ninety day pause is up. Francesca, it's 336 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 2: a little bit like the market yesterday. Did you did 337 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: you have a sort of a bit of a sigh 338 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: of relief from Trump's comments? I mean, we know it 339 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 2: is hard to predict what will come next, but do 340 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 2: you feel like there might be some light at the 341 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: end of the tunnel when it comes to settling these 342 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 2: trade walls? Or you're not holding your breath? You might 343 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: as welcome to text me on ninety two ninety two 344 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: news is up next to you're with early edition on 345 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 2: Newstalks edb Benet to. 346 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: The next two the news you need this morning and 347 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: the in depth analysis Early edition with one roof make 348 00:17:50,720 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: your Property search Simple News Talk ZB fine, good morning. 349 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: This is early edition on Newstalks. They'd be I'm Francisca 350 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: Udkins filling in for Ryan today. Thanks for being with 351 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: us and the next half hour. Elon Musk has finally 352 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: given into the call from Tesla to return to the company. 353 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: What does this mean for DOGE? And the Ministry for 354 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 2: Regulation has done a review into early childhood sector. The 355 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: government recognizes that the current regulation system is outdated and overburdensome, 356 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: and the sector agrees, but there is some concern from 357 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 2: the sector about the lack of detail and some of 358 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: the recommendations, in particular around the qualifications teachers will need. 359 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: They don't want to see a less qualified workforce and 360 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 2: I'm sure that parents don't either. So we're going to 361 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: talk more about this before the end of the hour. 362 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your feedback. Someone said, the 363 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: beneficiaries don't give you that going back to the banks 364 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: and the pay confirmation, the beneficiaries don't give you the 365 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: nick that's the name you create to remember the beneficiary. 366 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 2: It's just the count name and number. Yeah. No, I 367 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 2: did get to that point and I put that in 368 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: and it's still didn't work. And when I contacted each 369 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: of the pay the paye that I was firing trying 370 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: to fire the money off to, they gave me a 371 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: completely different account name. So I think it's just it's 372 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 2: says we're all don't worry. As I said, it's user 373 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: error on my behalf as well. It took me a 374 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: while to get there, and but you know, I was 375 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: trying to set up a payment for a university hall 376 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: and when I rang them, the first thing I said 377 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 2: it was, oh, yeah, we're getting this all the time. 378 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 2: Here we go, here's the correct here's used this name. 379 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: And they gave me a completely different company account name 380 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: and it worked brilliantly, but nowhere was it to be 381 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 2: seen on the original voys. Anyway, thank you very much 382 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: for your feedback. You can keep the text coming. On 383 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: ninety two ninety two, it is twenty one to. 384 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: Six News Talk said be. 385 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: Right joining me now, we're going to head around the 386 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: company and joining me now from Dunedin is Michael Sirkle. 387 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, and we've got the world's smallest 388 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 2: penguins and making history. 389 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 8: In Olmu, so called Blue Penguin Colony has begun laying 390 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 8: eggs almost three months earlier than usual. This apparently indicates 391 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 8: a healthy and successful marine environment. This is a first 392 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 8: for the local colony and it's only the second time 393 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 8: it's ever been recorded in the whole country. The public's 394 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 8: being urged to tack here though, after a male penguin 395 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 8: was found dead after getting tangled in a discarding fishing line. 396 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 8: It was found near the popular fishing spot Homes Wharf 397 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 8: a few days before Easter and unfortunately had to be 398 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 8: out put down. 399 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: Oh that is sad news. What's stone Edin's weather today, Michael? 400 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 8: Oh it's a nice one, fine like Win's fourteen degrees beautiful. 401 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. And joining us now from Christchurch 402 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 2: is Claire Sherwood. How are you, Claire? 403 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 9: Good morning. 404 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 2: Now. Twenty names, only twenty names have been drawn from 405 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: hundreds of hopefuls to be the first to step inside 406 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: the new stadium. 407 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 9: Yes that's right, Francesca. In fact, one thy six hundred 408 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 9: and sixteen hopefuls tried to get a chance to look 409 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 9: at the new stadium, but twenty people have been drawn. 410 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 9: One new Zealand Stadium at Takaha will open to this 411 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 9: very exclusive group, which was literally drawn from a hat 412 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 9: for next month's Open christ Church Festival. 413 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 10: Now. 414 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 9: Raylen Palmer is one of them. We spoke to her yesterday. 415 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 9: She can't believe she'll be one of the first, outside 416 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 9: of of course construction staff and officials. She says, it 417 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 9: has been amazing, like many of us, to watch it 418 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 9: grow throughout construction. It's quite nice for Raylein. She actually 419 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 9: worked for the Crusaders for seven years, so she saw 420 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 9: it throughout the earthquakes and the temporary stadium being built, 421 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 9: so to be able to see the new one feels 422 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 9: like a full circle moment. Experts will also be there. 423 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 9: It's going to be a one hour guided tour on 424 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 9: May four. 425 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 2: What about the media? Clear have you got on there? 426 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 6: No? 427 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 2: Not even us? Okay, seems rough and the weather today. 428 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 9: In christ Church frosty to start, it will clear to 429 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 9: a fine day light winds and fourteen and Max. 430 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: Toll is with us and Wellington. Good morning Max. You 431 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: got a bit of an a shoe with some in sex. 432 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 11: Yeah, a interesting story here. Residents in a Wellington coastal 433 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 11: suburb complaining about an infestation of millipedes that has even 434 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 11: made some express regret and buying in the area. This 435 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 11: is orfeedo or Bay, which is just around from Island Bay. 436 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 6: It's seeing a. 437 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 11: Massive surge in Portuguese millipedes, which enter homes at night 438 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 11: in the hundreds. They're attracted to light. The regional council 439 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 11: reportedly doesn't have any immediate plans to tackle the problem. 440 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 11: We spoke to a local who complains that these millipedes 441 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 11: and they come into the house, they excrete, a smelly 442 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 11: liquid that stains the floor. Doors and windows blocked with 443 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 11: towels don't help either. Really bad problem for about two 444 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 11: months now, apparently. 445 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: I've just googled them. They're not particularly cute either. 446 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 11: Not close up. 447 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: No, no, not really. Wellington's weather today. 448 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 11: Max mostly fine today, light winds peaking in the mid teens. 449 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. And neither writty man who joins 450 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: me out of the studio, so we've both got the 451 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 2: kick was explaining the millipede issue got to me. I know, 452 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: I had no idea, No, because they're tiny, powerful, powerful 453 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: and okay neither An Auckland restaurant has had its food 454 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 2: grade lower to a d after a person shared video 455 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: of and here we are laughing at Wellington's story. A 456 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: person shared video of fish dry on a clothesline. 457 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 12: It's like going for one stupid store in Wellington to 458 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 12: a stupid story. 459 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: Here in Auckland, we've got a long weekend. 460 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 12: Oh I'm glad too, So yes, you're right, Francesca. So 461 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 12: this video shows dozens of fish while it's hanging from 462 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 12: stainless steel hooks. That's right on a clothesline in a backyard. Now, 463 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 12: the owner of Mount Albert Barbecue noodle House nine three 464 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 12: two claims that the fish isn't there is and actually 465 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 12: belongs to a neighbor who was using it for personal consumption. 466 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 12: So this is not to be confused, because apparently that 467 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 12: there's another Mount Albert Barbecue noodle House and it's right 468 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 12: next door and it's nine three zero. The cousins, they're cousins, 469 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 12: and so they both claim to be you know, the 470 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 12: original noodle house. But this one here, who's been you know, 471 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 12: like slept over the knuckle, is nine three two. So 472 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 12: what they've done is that the Auckland Council they've issued 473 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 12: them with the notice and they've said, look, this is not. 474 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 13: Acceptable to dry any food in this way. Well you'd 475 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 13: think not, eh. 476 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 2: Do you think your cloth it smellab it? If you 477 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: use this line after you just pegged on your T 478 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 2: shirt and the edgin and. 479 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 4: Even just aren't my things? 480 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 13: The flies everything that will be you know, that would 481 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 13: be coming around, you know if you've got them on 482 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 13: the clothes line and you've got the fish hanging there, 483 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 13: wouldn't you think of all the insects and the flies 484 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 13: and what are though the millipedes? And from Wellington? What 485 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 13: big jumping on the clothesline there? Goodness my right up. 486 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: Auckland's weather today fine but cloud early morning. Twenty is 487 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: the high here neither. Thank you very much. Have a 488 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 2: lovely long weekend. Next up we are after the US. 489 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: Mitch mcckenn is with us. It is sixteen to six. 490 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 2: If you're looking for a place to retire in Auckland, 491 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 2: you'd be hard pressed to find a nicer spot than 492 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: Saint Helia's beautiful beaches, great cafes, It's just a great lifestyle. 493 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: That's where the Halia comes in. 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Searchthhalier dot 506 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 2: co dot. 507 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: NZ International correspondence with Enseneye Insurance Peace of Mind for 508 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: New Zealand Business. 509 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: And Mitch mccannon is with me now from the US. 510 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 14: Good morning match, Good morning, Francisca. 511 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 6: How are you. 512 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: I'm very good. Thank you. So Tesla has finally drawn 513 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 2: Elon Musk back into the fold. 514 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 14: Yeah, that's right, And the reason for that, perhaps is 515 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 14: that a report it's first called earnings yesterday. Tesla are 516 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 14: the electric vehicle maker, and it wasn't good. In fact, 517 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 14: it was billions of dollars short of what Wall Street 518 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 14: had actually predicted. Over the last couple of months, Tesla 519 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 14: stock has fallen immensely. Right sales have been lagging in 520 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 14: Europe and the United States, but also people have been 521 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 14: attacking dealerships because of Elon Musk's role in the Trump administration. Now, 522 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 14: in an earnings call yesterday with investors, Musk said in 523 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 14: May he will be spending significantly less time in the 524 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 14: White House as he goes back to work for the company. 525 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 14: He says he'll still be working for Donald Trump whenn't required, 526 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 14: but that might only be one or two days a week. 527 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: Now. 528 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 14: As a result of that, Tesla's share price has been soaring. 529 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 14: It was up seven percent at one point this morning, 530 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 14: Investors happy he might be leaving the White House. 531 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 2: Match sure, yeah, really quickly. It looks like they could 532 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 2: potentially be a deal between the US and China. And gosh, 533 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: the markets loved this news, didn't they. 534 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 14: Yeah, it could be getting close to the Treasury Secretary 535 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 14: this morning. There's an opportunity for a big deal here. 536 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 14: And the Wall Street Journal reports so that terifright of 537 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 14: a whopping one hundred and forty five percent on China 538 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 14: from the US could come down to around sixty percent. 539 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,239 Speaker 14: The markets of loving it been loving it. At one 540 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 14: point today the Dow Jones was up one thousand points. 541 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 14: So finally, Francesca some good news on the markets here 542 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 14: in New York. 543 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 2: Thank you much. Nice to catch up right. Concern from 544 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 2: early childhood educators that proposed reforms would put business over children. 545 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: The government has recognized that current ECE regulations are outdated, 546 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 2: but the sector says changes could love with the standard 547 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: of teachers. Early Childhood New Zealand CEO Kathy Wolf is 548 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 2: with me now, thanks for your time this morning. 549 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 7: Kathy Mariner. 550 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: Do you feel listen to from the results of this 551 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: review where you're happy with the general gist of it. 552 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 7: We will look we call for the review and the 553 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 7: general gist of it in terms of addressing some of 554 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 7: the cumbersome and complicated processes and overburdened some administration, Yep, 555 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 7: there's good things from there. However, some of the recommendations 556 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 7: are nine and definitely recommendation ten is something that we 557 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 7: are not very happy about at. 558 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: All, and you came from more detail on this. How 559 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: concerned would a move away from qualified teachers be. 560 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 7: Very concerning qualified teachers are trained to educate our youngest 561 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 7: children and they understand the development emotionally and intellectually for 562 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 7: children from a vreative five and for school children to 563 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 7: be prepared for school. They need that education and the 564 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 7: qualified teacher is what is required to provide them that education. 565 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,239 Speaker 2: And why do you think there would be a move 566 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: away from this? What's the reasoning behind it? 567 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 7: It's mostly about fundings. They're also saying it is around 568 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 7: teacher shortages, but there's absolutely no link to teacher shortages 569 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 7: and qualifications. The cause and effect of teacher shortages is 570 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 7: that we just haven't had a decent workforce strategy that 571 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 7: managers supplying the month. 572 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: How do you want to see the balance between business 573 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: and children stuck struck here when it comes to looking 574 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: at these reforms. 575 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 7: Look, every early childhood service is a business, whether you're 576 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 7: in community based service or a for profit service. At 577 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 7: the end of the day, you've got to run a 578 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 7: viable business in order to give back to the ken community, 579 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 7: but also make sure children are educated well. So you know, 580 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 7: and we're also publicly funded and we have to be 581 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 7: accountable for that public funding. So for us, it is 582 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,959 Speaker 7: really important that that is the key thing about the 583 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 7: public good and upholding the public good of education and 584 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 7: at each other. 585 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: Because it was a long it was it was quite 586 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: a fight. Wasn't it a while ago to get you know, 587 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: more qualified teachers into early childhood education. I can remember that, 588 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: and of course the big at that time, the big 589 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: negatives going to cost us more because we have to 590 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: pay qualified people and things. But I'm pretty sure that 591 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: most parents out there would really like the workforce to 592 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: remain qualified. 593 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 7: Absolutely. I mean, if you want, if you put your 594 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 7: child into an early childhood service, you want to know 595 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 7: every single day that your child is not only getting 596 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 7: the best care and their well being is looked after, 597 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 7: but they've been educated with a qualified person who understands 598 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 7: how a child develops. And that can be the difference 599 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 7: between an unqualified person who could have an impact on 600 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 7: a child through a perverse situation, where a qualified person 601 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 7: would absolutely know how to deal with the situation, and 602 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 7: that impact on a child can last for a very 603 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 7: long time. 604 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: And can you any other major issues with the reforms. 605 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 7: At this stage, It's just going to be really about 606 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 7: working with the government and the ministry around the changes, 607 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 7: especially around the criteria for the licensing. So that'll be 608 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,719 Speaker 7: a work in progress, as seymore mentioned, over the next 609 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 7: next week, while the Qualification one is going to be 610 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 7: a very big focus for the sector and there will 611 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 7: be very big pushback on this one. 612 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 2: Tathy. I'm just wondering while I've got you, if I 613 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: can ask you about the data and the Herald this 614 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: morning that revealed the government's estimate of the number of 615 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: families eligible for the full Family Boost payment was wrong. 616 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: Just yeah, two hundred and forty nine out of the 617 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 2: twenty one thousand the Government seed were eligible have actually 618 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: received that maximum amount. The real number of families eligible 619 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 2: is unknown. What are your thoughts about that? 620 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 7: Well, we always said that the Family Boost was flawed. 621 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 7: It doesn't reach the families that it should reach. And 622 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 7: also there's a few hoops the families have to jump 623 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 7: through to even get access to that, and they only 624 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 7: get access it after that paid three months and then 625 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 7: they get repaid for that, and many families don't have 626 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 7: that money upfront. So we're hoping that Minister Seymour really 627 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 7: has a look at the funding for early childhood and 628 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 7: we really make a fitful purpose for both fairly child 629 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 7: and services as well as parents to get the system 630 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,479 Speaker 7: fixed and working how it should be. 631 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Kathy. I really appreciate your time 632 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: and your thoughts. A sting that was Kathy, Thank you Kathy. 633 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: That was Kathy from Kathy Will from Early Childhood, New Zealand. YEA, 634 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: that was a bit embarrassing those figures that were released. 635 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: But Nicola Will have said that the id's advice was 636 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,719 Speaker 2: based on its best estimates at the time. Unfortunately they 637 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: got that wrong. But the ID found the modeling for 638 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 2: Family Boost challenging because it didn't have reliable data. So 639 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 2: apparently now they are trying to get as much reliable data, 640 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 2: but there's other things that complicated as well. There's a 641 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 2: possibility that some people went, oh, it's not worth applying 642 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: for it because I'm not going to get a huge 643 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: amount back, or they haven't got around to cleicking up 644 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: all those receipts and applying for it yet. But hopefully 645 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 2: they'll be able to get that sorted as soon as possible. 646 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: It is a six to six. My cost ginger is 647 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: in the studio next. 648 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day earlier 649 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: edition with one roof will make your property search simple. 650 00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: The news talk said. 651 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 2: Be coming up at Sex is Mike Hoskin and he's 652 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: in the studio with me. Now, what do you got 653 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 2: on the show, mate. 654 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 10: Well, I'm just, I'm just I've been watching Ronee Oh Sullivan. 655 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 10: You know, the snooker No, okay, I don't. 656 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: Want anyway, Nobody fascinated. 657 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 10: The story is no, no, no. So the World Championships 658 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 10: are on right now and this is the this is 659 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 10: the thing. This is a place called the Cruciball go 660 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 10: to a snooker games. It's amazing. Anyway, Roneoh Sullivan he's 661 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 10: the greatest snooker player of all time. In dispute and 662 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 10: no one disputes Okay. He hasn't been playing since January. 663 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 10: He has a lot of mental health issues and so 664 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 10: he's thinking, I don't need this anymore. Shallow play cha anyway, 665 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 10: So there's been tremendous anticipation as to whether he will 666 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 10: turn up at this tournament, and he has and he's 667 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 10: just played his open round and it's over a couple 668 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 10: of days because there's a large number of frames. Anyway, 669 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 10: he's playing a guy called Ellie Carter, and there's a 670 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 10: bit of beef between Ronnie and Ellie, and so that 671 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 10: gave it a freshont anyway. So the first frames of 672 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 10: five to four, this was yesterday, so overnight he plays 673 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 10: the second series of frames first and nineteen and he 674 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 10: comes out and he destroys Ellie, absolutely destroys him, and 675 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 10: he's playing like the old days and it's just so 676 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 10: exciting anyway through to the second round. So that's what 677 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 10: I've been doing, not but that will be reflected on the. 678 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 2: Show that I think I might have got confused with 679 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 2: dance Darts looks like a fun totally different sports. 680 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 10: Franchesca completely good time and players. You have a good weekend. 681 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 2: Mike Cosking is up next. I'll see you tomorrow morning 682 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 2: at nine. Have a good long weekend. 683 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,919 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 684 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: to news Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 685 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.