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Speaker 1: From our science Will Sabers file. It's being discovered that

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Speaker 1: an extract of daffodils no less could help cut methane emission.

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Speaker 1: So this is AGRA zero en Z. They're partnering with

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Speaker 1: a Welsh company to try the potentially groundbreaking tech on animals.

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Speaker 1: Here now, the Agra zero New Zealand Chief executive WAYN McNee.

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Speaker 2: Is with us.

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Speaker 1: Wayne Morning, Good morning Mike. On an excitement scale ten,

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Speaker 1: you're fizzing beyond anything you're fizzed about before. Where are

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Speaker 1: you on this?

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Speaker 2: I like this as early stage work, but we're excited

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Speaker 2: about the potential of it. It's been proven to work

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Speaker 2: in a lab to reduce emissions and remnant animals, and

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Speaker 2: the work we're funding is to do trials in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand on the product to see if it will work

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Speaker 2: in a New Zealand farming system. So excited, but you

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Speaker 2: know it's one of a number of things we're investing in.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask a really basic question, why wouldn't you

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Speaker 1: just plant the field with daffodils, have the cows eat

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Speaker 1: them and see if it works.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, you have to extract the homentomine, which is

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Speaker 2: the active ingredient, and as in very small quantities in

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Speaker 2: the daffodils. Daffodils also have to be grown in a

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Speaker 2: harsh environment. That's why they'll be suited to being grownd

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Speaker 2: in high country New Zealand and why they were originally

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Speaker 2: grown and whales.

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Speaker 1: But but why do you have to extract? If I

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Speaker 1: consider does something happen when you extract it? Because if

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Speaker 1: I consume it as a flower, is it not in

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Speaker 1: there anyway?

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Speaker 2: Well, for a start, they don't particularly like eating daffodils,

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Speaker 2: sheep and cattle and the active You need to concentrate it,

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Speaker 2: you know, in much larger quantities than you get if

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Speaker 2: you just state the deafitil. So definitely need to extract it.

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Speaker 2: And the trials that we're funding will be at Lincoln

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Speaker 2: University in the South Island looking at how this product

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Speaker 2: actually works and animals.

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Speaker 1: So you've got a twofold thing, correct me if I'm wrong. One,

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Speaker 1: you've got the growing and extraction process, because I mean

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Speaker 1: presumably if it works in the hills of whales, you

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Speaker 1: can just sell it around the world. And then two,

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Speaker 1: how do you feed the cows once you've extracted? Is

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Speaker 1: it just put into feed?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's put in as a feed additive, it'll be

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Speaker 2: put in as a feed additive. Alternatively, it could potentially

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Speaker 2: be used in a bowlus so you could put it

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Speaker 2: inside the room and of the animal that's later work.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if it works in the animals first, as

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Speaker 2: opposed to to the lab.

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Speaker 1: And when you say the animals, is it just cows

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Speaker 1: or if it works and cows, could it work in

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Speaker 1: sheep and goats and all that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, no, if it works and cows, it should

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Speaker 2: also work in sheep and goats and deer.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic. How long before we know?

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Speaker 2: So this trial is February next year, Febry twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: We'll know pretty soon after that whether or not it'll

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Speaker 2: working animals, and then after that we'll scale up the work.

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Speaker 2: And the other advantage is that if we grow the

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Speaker 2: death it was in New Zealand, then there'll be an

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Speaker 2: income for farmers as well from that.

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Speaker 1: So you can grow and feed the cows and the

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Speaker 1: whole thing's fantastic. See this is what I love about

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Speaker 1: the whole climate debate. It's this sort of thing that

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Speaker 1: we don't know about until we know about it that

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Speaker 1: eventually is going to help, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, we're investing in a whole range of

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Speaker 2: different tools and hoping to have two or three that

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Speaker 2: farmers can use by sort of twenty six, twenty seven,

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Speaker 2: and you know, maybe this will be one of them,

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Speaker 2: but early days, but yeah, we are excited about the

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Speaker 2: potential of it.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Go well, Wayne, We'll stay in touch on

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Speaker 1: this one wayn McNee who's the Agri zero New Zealand

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Speaker 1: chief exept. See no need to panic. We'll get there

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Speaker 1: in the end.

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