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Speaker 2: This winter news talks'd be good morning.

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Speaker 3: It is six after five, Big Friday, packed Friday for

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Speaker 3: you this morning. Nikola Willis on the show Live before

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Speaker 3: six on the sixty six billion dollar question over COVID,

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Speaker 3: The BBC Russia correspondent on Trump's meeting with Putin. Yes,

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Speaker 3: they're meant to be meeting next week. Vincent mcavinie on Netanya,

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Speaker 3: who's meeting that's over Gaza. That's happening anytime any second now.

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Speaker 3: In fact, I think it's just underway. Plus this morning

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Speaker 3: we will speak to the company trying to build the

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Speaker 3: world's biggest ever aircraft and they've never built an aircraft

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Speaker 2: The agenda Friday, the eighth of August.

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Speaker 3: Netanya, who's a meeting with his security cabinet, is underway.

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Speaker 3: They are talking about potentially taking over the Gaza Strip. Earlier,

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Speaker 3: in an interview with Fox News, Netanya, who said he

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Speaker 4: We intend to in order to assure our security, remove

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll see how that goes down this morning. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 5: If it does succeed and we have no sankings tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: Just keep stringing him along, doesn't he. Japan's in big trouble.

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Speaker 3: Too many deaths, not enough babies. It's an old problem

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Speaker 6: There are a less and less number of young generation,

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Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth

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Speaker 3: Gone eight minutes after five on your Friday morning. Yes,

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Speaker 3: so it's interesting what's happening with Trump and Putin. Kremlin

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Speaker 3: Could we see President Trump on a plane to Moscow

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Speaker 3: Are you is companies building the world's largest airplane, called

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Speaker 7: Sure, it's by far the world's largest aircraft. It's about

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Speaker 3: So it was seven times the volume of a seven

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Speaker 7: So twelve times the volume of a seven forty seven,

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Speaker 7: there's a market opportunity that is a small company. We

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Speaker 3: Give us a date, Mark, will we see it in

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Speaker 3: the skies.

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Speaker 7: You'll see in the skies by the end of the decade.

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Speaker 7: It's no fast process to design the world and build

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Speaker 3: Based the lock Scie flying Mark Lonstrom has the aerospace

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Speaker 3: But does that not just show that person is again

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Speaker 8: It seems that up to now Moscow has been quite

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Speaker 3: What's going to stop potent? I mean, he's obviously not

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Speaker 8: So definitely mister Puttin will try to avoid that either.

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Speaker 3: Oh goat, appreciate your insights. Ares always. I'll get ive China.

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Speaker 3: The Babyc's Russia correspondent with a step. Meeting between Trump

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Speaker 3: AB News TALKSB Twenty seven minutes after five on your

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Speaker 3: Friday morning. The sixty six billion dollar question hanging over

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Speaker 3: Labour's head has been answered. This new Treasury report tells

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Speaker 3: us pretty much what we already knew about Labour's COVID response.

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Speaker 3: They went too far. They spent like drunken sailors. They

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Speaker 3: Chris Hipkins was in Queenstown yesterday chatting about the policies

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Speaker 3: Guess what's on the menu. A capital gains tax, probably

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Speaker 3: People may not like Christopher Luxen's delivery of this message

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Speaker 3: it greats people at the moment, you can sense it,

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Speaker 3: but you can't hide from the fact that those guys

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Speaker 3: we'll talk about Nittnyahu's meeting. He's just gone on Fox News.

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Speaker 1: News and Views you trust to start your day. It's

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Speaker 1: earlier this ship with Ryan Bridge at Expol Insulation keeping

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Speaker 3: Four away from six news tib It is well, I've

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Speaker 3: on this Treasury report. Over in Ohio, there's a river

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Speaker 3: obviously summer over there. Everybody's been out boating and people

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Speaker 3: reporters around the country. Jordan done for Dunedin. Good morning,

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Speaker 9: So it's in the Central Otago businesses which are being

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Speaker 3: William, thanks Jordan, have a great date. Clears in christ Church,

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Speaker 3: take Claire good morning. Oran a Wildlife Park no longer

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Speaker 10: This is following a six month review. Than are able

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Speaker 10: The board co chair, Professor Ken Huey says the outcome

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Speaker 3: All right, how's your weather?

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Speaker 10: Cloudy with showers returning in christ Church today, northerlys turning

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Speaker 3: Thank you Maxim Wellington, Max, good morning, Good and tag

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Speaker 3: Counsel and Action keeping families out of their homes.

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Speaker 11: Yes, sturing the Post this morning about two Wellington homeowners

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Speaker 11: So more assessments need to happen.

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Speaker 3: Oh, for goodness sake. And they're busy naming new sister

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Speaker 11: Garada, more sisters in the von Trapp family.

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Speaker 3: With the mix but of rain.

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Speaker 11: This morning has suddenly turned this afternoon fourteen the high Central.

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Speaker 3: Thank you hate me? You've good morning morning. Happy Friday?

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Speaker 12: Yes, yes, happy Friday, say it with meaning, Come on.

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Speaker 3: Happy Friday. Bootech stores in Auckland have been caught in

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Speaker 3: an overseas scam.

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Speaker 12: Oh these scammers, for goodness sake, Yes, Sam, those scamming

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Speaker 12: dam those scammers. Meticana Village. So what's happened is that

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Speaker 12: there's an online clothing shop based in Hong Kong for

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Speaker 12: Meticana Boutiques. Amy Hope says this issue really gets home

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Speaker 12: you know, using the same font and there's another store

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Speaker 12: store to boutique owner. That's Alana Silk, she said. She said,

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Speaker 12: twelve people visiting asking for a specific jumper that they

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Speaker 12: saw on this online store and saying, oh, can we

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Speaker 12: come in and try it on? So they've been driving

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Speaker 12: out there and she's said to say, scam, scam, scam.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 5: So not good.

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Speaker 12: And especially too, you know, you have the Medicana Village,

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Speaker 12: You've got you know, the the markets every Saturday, and

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Speaker 12: so people are driving out there saying oh I saw this,

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Speaker 12: and Facebook and blah blah blah. So it's all the skin.

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Speaker 3: These crazy they're going up, even small out.

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Speaker 12: I know, and especially for if the you know, like

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Speaker 12: got stuff for here for New Zealand brands and wanting

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Speaker 12: people to do local you know that. I think that's

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Speaker 12: really just upsetting.

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Speaker 3: Every shop in person. That's the moral of the story,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. You're going to go in there and see stuff,

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Speaker 3: make sure it's real.

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Speaker 12: Well that's right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Hey, how's our weather?

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Speaker 12: We got scared of showers tuning in to rain heavy

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Speaker 12: falls for a time. This morning, sixteen is a high.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant neither, Thank you, great to see you. Enjoy your Friday.

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Speaker 3: It's just gone eighten minutes away from six o'clock. A

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Speaker 3: quick little update for you. This is out of Jakarta

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Speaker 3: overnight because Todd mcclay's over there assigning a deal, an

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Speaker 3: agricultural deal with the Indonesians and the two way trap. Well,

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Speaker 3: exports from our way over to their way about one

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Speaker 3: point six billion at the moment. I actually went with

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Speaker 3: John Key when he was Prime Minister and it would

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Speaker 3: have been the Trade minister Grosser way back in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 3: At that point I think it was one billion we

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Speaker 3: were exporting. It's now one point six billion, which is good,

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Speaker 3: but it hasn't exactly exploded taken off. So Todd mcclay's

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Speaker 3: over there at the moment. He's agg and Trade Minister.

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Speaker 3: He's signed a deal for long term commercial partnerships about cooperation.

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Speaker 3: It's specifically about agriculture, trying to get more of our

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Speaker 3: basically our milk, powder and beef over there. And the

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Speaker 3: Indonesians say this is good, but if you read their

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Speaker 3: side of the story, it must be balanced trade. In

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Speaker 3: other words, yes, we will take more of your milk

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Speaker 3: and your beef, but you're going to take more of

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Speaker 3: our rubber cocoa and palm oil. Sixteen away from six

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Speaker 3: News Talk said b Nicola willis coming up along with

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Speaker 3: our UK Europe correspondent on this net and Yahoo.

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Speaker 1: Meeting International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: Well, turn away from six we'll get to Nikola Willison

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Speaker 3: just a second right now, Vins and macaviny a UK

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Speaker 3: Europe correspondent. And it sounds like the Israeli defense forces

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Speaker 3: currently warning civilians to get out of parts of Gaza.

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Speaker 3: This after reports that nitnya who actually wants to take

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Speaker 3: it over.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, that's right. This is an evacuation order for parts

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Speaker 13: of Gaza City's old town to evacuate immediately. And it

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Speaker 13: comes after a Security Council meeting chaired by Prime Minister Venuminetignahu,

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Speaker 13: where he expressed to his cabinet what has been long

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Speaker 13: thought that after the apparent collapse of Seafire talks with Hamas,

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Speaker 13: he wants a vast expansion of military operations. Now it

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Speaker 13: is slightly unclear what his plan is. He's saying that

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Speaker 13: they don't want to govern continuously Gaza, but they do

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Speaker 13: want to take full control of it. At the moment

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Speaker 13: they control around sort of three quarters of the territory,

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Speaker 13: but they want to fully take control. This will involve

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Speaker 13: moving into areas they haven't been before, particularly areas where

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Speaker 13: there are some sort of refugee camps in the middle

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Speaker 13: of it, where it's thought that some of the hostages

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Speaker 13: are still being held. And then he says it will

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Speaker 13: be the mission to eradicate Hamas and then for new

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Speaker 13: elections to take place and an hour of power to

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Speaker 13: come in and control the territory after that. So the

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Speaker 13: broad outlines of a plan, but it's already sparking condemnation,

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Speaker 13: not just externally but also internally. There are reports that

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Speaker 13: people senior in the IDF are not happy with this plan.

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Speaker 13: They think their reserves are exhausted. Already there has been

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Speaker 13: a rise in suicide among young Israelis in those defense forces,

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Speaker 13: and so it remains to be seeing whether or not Venuineesnia.

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Speaker 2: Who can get this over the line with his.

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Speaker 3: Country, appreciate that. Thanks so much for your time. Vincent

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Speaker 3: mcavini are UK europe correspondent with an update on the

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Speaker 3: situation in Gaza. It is twelve minutes away from six

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Speaker 3: now Brian Bridge. So Jasindra Doom was worn repeatedly along

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Speaker 3: with Grant Robertson that his spending spree during COVID would

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Speaker 3: have died consequences, and she was warned Aszuli As twenty twenty,

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Speaker 3: newly released documents Showadun's own treasury advised that a blowout

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Speaker 3: of public deal would leave us vulnerable for any future

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Speaker 3: crises and avoided advised to rather to better target the spending.

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Speaker 3: Nicola Witus is the Finance minister with me this morning. Minister,

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Speaker 3: good morning.

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Speaker 8: Good morning.

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Speaker 3: First of all, does the government have any response to

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Speaker 3: what Netnya who's just announced he wants to fully take

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Speaker 3: control of Gaza looks forgive me?

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Speaker 14: I have not been briefed on that, and I know

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Speaker 14: very well on matters of vignacys, one should be brief

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Speaker 14: before one comments.

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Speaker 3: Fair Now this report from treasury. Does this mean that

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Speaker 3: in future events you won't be doing what Labor did

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Speaker 3: and pulling the fiscal lever and leave it to the

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Speaker 3: Reserve Bank.

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Speaker 14: That's exactly what it means. This is officials who have

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Speaker 14: looked very keyfully at what went on. They are not

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Speaker 14: political and what they make very clear in this report

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Speaker 14: very politely, is that big mistakes were made in the

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Speaker 14: way that the last government used government spending to respond

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Speaker 14: to COVID, and they are urging future politicians not to

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Speaker 14: repeat those mists, and our government will not.

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Speaker 3: The vast bulk of that spending was on the wage subsidy.

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Speaker 3: Did you support that, Well, that's.

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Speaker 14: Not actually correct. The wage subsidy was around thirty five

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Speaker 14: percent of spending, h percent was health, eighteen percent was health.

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Speaker 14: That here's here's the kicker.

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Speaker 8: Nearly half of.

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Speaker 14: The COVID spending was on a range of things with

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Speaker 14: a very varied range of objectives, whether that was school lunches,

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Speaker 14: increases to welfare benefits, public housing. Now all good things

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Speaker 14: that we know that many people like. But actually what

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Speaker 14: the officials say is that didn't really make a difference

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Speaker 14: to the economy doing that stuff. Much of it had

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Speaker 14: a very lad defect, and it racked up huge amounts

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Speaker 14: of debt. It was extremely inflationary, and we're now in

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Speaker 14: the position of the country where we are paying the

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Speaker 14: price for that. And so the point is, Yep, you've

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Speaker 14: got to do some things. You've got to do wage subsidies,

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Speaker 14: you've got to increase your spending on the health system,

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Speaker 14: but be really careful that you do the things you

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Speaker 14: have to do and don't rack up so much extra

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Speaker 14: spending and debt that we end up as an economy

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Speaker 14: paying it off for a very long time. That's what

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Speaker 14: the last government did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's your continuing with it, aren't you. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the bureaucrat counts barely moved. You've still got massive government,

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Speaker 3: still spending more than spending more than you are earning.

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Speaker 14: Well, I reject that. Across our first two budgets, we

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Speaker 14: have already delivered forty four billion dollars worth of savings.

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Speaker 14: Now it is correct that we have put a lot

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Speaker 14: of those savings back into the system into education.

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Speaker 3: Government's still just as big, right.

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Speaker 14: No, it is not just as big, because what we

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Speaker 14: have had smaller. Well, we have constrained government spending significantly.

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Speaker 14: We've had much smaller editions of additional funding, and we

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Speaker 14: have ensured that we're in a position where over the

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Speaker 14: next four years we can get the books back in balance,

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Speaker 14: that track down, that we get them back in balance

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Speaker 14: and we start bending down the deck.

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Speaker 3: To Yeah, but that's one that's all Grant used to

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Speaker 3: tell us too. How much smaller is the government now

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Speaker 3: under your watch than it was under labor. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you keep saying they increased spending eighty four percent, blah

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Speaker 3: blah blah. How much smaller is government spending now than

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Speaker 3: it was?

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Speaker 14: Well, government spending is on track to come down to

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Speaker 14: thirty point nine percent for context, the last government drove

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Speaker 14: it up to thirty four percent of the overall size

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Speaker 14: of the economy. And most importantly, what we've done is

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Speaker 14: ensured that when we've been making investments, we're doing them

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Speaker 14: in a way that actually stimulates growth in the private

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Speaker 14: sector of the economy, things like making sure we're reducing taxes,

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Speaker 14: making sure we've got that investment boost scheme for businesses,

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Speaker 14: because we know the countries don't get rich just by

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Speaker 14: growing the size of their government. They have to grow

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Speaker 14: the size of those who are making things, milding.

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Speaker 3: Things, very doing things very quickly. We've got the tariffs

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Speaker 3: coming in today. Do we have when is Todd McClay

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Speaker 3: going to be over there? Do we have any idea

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Speaker 3: whether they're going to give us a reprieve?

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Speaker 14: Well, look, I think that those who observe Trump and

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Speaker 14: look internationally can see that that seems very unlikely at

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Speaker 14: the stage.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 14: That means that New Zealand needs to keep pressing our case.

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Speaker 14: We need to keep making sure the a Uish administration

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Speaker 14: remembers what a good partner they have been to them.

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Speaker 14: But look, I look at Switzerland. They went over and

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Speaker 14: did a huge amount of negotiating. They thought they were

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Speaker 14: going to be on a low tariff. They ended up

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Speaker 14: on thirty nine.

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Speaker 3: Made almost made it careful, almost made the situation where

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Speaker 3: Nicola would appreciate your time this morning, Finance Minister. It

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Speaker 3: is seven away from six News Talks.

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Speaker 1: Bet Ryan Bridge on early edition with ex bowl insulation,

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Speaker 1: keeping Kili hoes warm and try this winter News Talks.

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Speaker 3: A'd be five to six on your Friday morning and

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Speaker 3: Mike's in the studio. Mike, good morning, Good to see you. Ryan.

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Speaker 3: We've got those terriffs coming in and I've got a

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Speaker 3: good idea which I just wanted to run by you,

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Speaker 3: min You know Trump likes a bit of flattery. Sure,

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Speaker 3: why don't we a national park or one of our

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Speaker 3: ocean sanctuaries after him.

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Speaker 5: Like the Trump track instead of the heavy track. Exactly

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Speaker 5: the Trump track. He has good idea, great idea because

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Speaker 5: you're white boarding as almost right.

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Speaker 3: And there's five percent off your terriffy jove nights.

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Speaker 5: It's all it takes, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine the GREENI is sucking up her walking

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Speaker 3: on the Trump's track? Will o Jean Prime? Did you

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Speaker 3: mention that? Did you read it out? Did I read

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Speaker 3: it out?

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Speaker 5: What I can't understand?

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Speaker 4: She?

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Speaker 5: I watch Question Time, as you know, religiously. She is

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Speaker 5: their weakest link. Shows. She's seen to some sort of

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Speaker 5: frontline operator, and they get her up in the house

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Speaker 5: on a regular basis asking questions. I don't think she's

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Speaker 5: that bright, not to be mean to her personally, but

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Speaker 5: I've never seen a person unable to think on her

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Speaker 5: feet as poorly as she is, and worse than TETI yes,

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Speaker 5: and that and that really is saying something. And so

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Speaker 5: when you look at the correspondence this morning, it is indefensive.

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Speaker 5: It is, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: And the excuse is so my dog ate the homework out?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I did mean to meet with it. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure you'll have it all forever. We will.

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Speaker 5: And then you get Hipkins yesterday talking about a capital

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Speaker 5: gains tax again? Have they not losed that lesson? Three times?

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Speaker 3: They're not. We tried to get them on today apparently

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Speaker 3: too early season All Happy Friday.

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