WEBVTT - EP 28 - Creative Taro

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<v Speaker 1>It's the flavor podcast network.

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<v Speaker 2>Island Roots Auckland Ways. This one's for the brown brothers

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<v Speaker 2>and sisters who want to be one with themselves, their culture,

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<v Speaker 2>their identity, their roots.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Island Roots Auckland Ways.

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<v Speaker 3>What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome to Island Roots Auckland Ways. Hey, Lasa, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's things impersonate.

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<v Speaker 1>A bick and back being ball. You know how we do?

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<v Speaker 2>How where did you get that from?

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<v Speaker 1>People say that because look bloods because every word starts

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<v Speaker 1>with the be.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, we don't have any gang affiliations, but do

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<v Speaker 2>you know who we do have on the podcast today?

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<v Speaker 2>Creative Tara Jordan.

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<v Speaker 1>What h vibe?

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<v Speaker 2>Literally and like just what allegiends?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Everything about him is just pasthetic.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally vintage app cycler.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Seller also does some awesome, awesome, awesome money in his

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<v Speaker 2>spare time.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just saying off the mic, this guy's multi fested, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>He's lived a life.

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<v Speaker 2>He has lived a life.

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<v Speaker 1>And you'll hear more about it right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to another episode of Island Roots Aokland Ways,

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<v Speaker 2>and we are honored to be joined by the one

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<v Speaker 2>that only the Creative King himself You're done, aka created Sarah.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the mixture you Jordan, but figure would give you

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<v Speaker 3>extra because you got.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. I'm Alissa withth so my appearans are

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<v Speaker 2>also very extramet.

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<v Speaker 1>Come through, Jord and welcome to the flavor of Fundy.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you going?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good. Thank you for having me here.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, you have tricked quite a long way to

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<v Speaker 1>be here today.

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<v Speaker 3>Come from Wellie in Newtown.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is there like a because well he's O four.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there like an area code for Newtown?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh geez, I mean like a postcode. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>People just say Newtown.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, lame yeah, so it can't be cool like

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<v Speaker 2>I love that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, jore D. Every episode we share what we

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<v Speaker 1>love about home, wherever you currently love, where you were born,

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<v Speaker 1>where ever most feels like home to you. What is

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<v Speaker 1>home and what do you love about it? We'll start

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<v Speaker 1>off first, and this week I love about home, my flatties.

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<v Speaker 1>I love my flat mate.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Kira and Renee, they are queens. I found the flat

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<v Speaker 1>actually because Kira I used to do comms with at

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<v Speaker 1>aut and so we kind of knew each other. But

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've gotten to know her better since

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<v Speaker 1>living in the flat, and it's just so chill. Like

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<v Speaker 1>we were having discussions out in the Flavor office about

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<v Speaker 1>me going flatting because this is my first time leaving home,

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<v Speaker 1>and so everyone was like, watch out for the dynamics

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<v Speaker 1>and like you gotta watch out for this and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you create this roster because people are missing, and

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<v Speaker 1>just watch out for this that I don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about all of it. It's like living with my family,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, I love that, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm living with brown people. Yeah, truly, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>underlying fact.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, did you go floating in your twinings? No, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>assuming you're not in your.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>How old you are?

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty seven?

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<v Speaker 1>What? That is crazy? That's why that's crazy. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the same, and Semi Soulser came up. Se he was

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine, and I was like, I was, yag thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>How is your thirties late thirties?

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<v Speaker 3>It's cool, Like, so I was a teenage dad, so

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't actually have that to go flooding. I needed

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<v Speaker 3>their final support and yeah, I was always with my family.

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<v Speaker 2>But.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, like I'm start, I'm doing everything backwards. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's what I tell my son, Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I have my kid first, and I'll work my way

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<v Speaker 3>up to get a job and then maybe i'll study.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you know I do.

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<v Speaker 3>You own my own house, so that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything's kind of backwards for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But andestions on you are a drip. Yeah. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be like you. And sometimes I've been falling out

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<v Speaker 1>to places and bloody twenty three, I look like forty three.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>That one thing about Marin and I. We never look

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<v Speaker 2>like we're going to the same event.

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<v Speaker 1>No, never go to pace. Yeah, except radio radio. Well

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I love about Home this week.

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<v Speaker 2>What I love about Home this week, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>just money Dealer in general. It's just like a vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm from money, you were born and raised, and I

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<v Speaker 2>love Rework and I've recently come across some re were

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<v Speaker 2>haters and I just don't. I don't need their energy.

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<v Speaker 2>We were to sixty seven, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to because I'm so patriotic about coming from Mangoity,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can two things can be true at once. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can be proud of being from a Mangoti, you

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<v Speaker 2>can still.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy truly, what I will say about rewa vot driving

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<v Speaker 1>on Rosscommon Road has to be one of the scariest

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<v Speaker 1>things ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And also when people drop me off to my house,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't drive Jordan, so I have to get rides everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>They always like this is the hood. Like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think people realize, like I actually come from money dealer,

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<v Speaker 2>not a nice part of money dealer. I come from

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<v Speaker 2>the place where these like potholes that the council can't

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<v Speaker 2>be bother fixing, you know, burning rubbish as Jordan with

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<v Speaker 2>the way I said, Yes, it's not do be giving that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's I love forever. What about you children? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>love about home?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I guess. I mean I live in Wellingsome, but

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<v Speaker 3>home for me is cow. So one of the beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>things about cold is the community and the people, but

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<v Speaker 3>just the surroundings and the environment. So we've got a forest,

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<v Speaker 3>We've got a lake, we've got a river, we've got activity.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa we have a free pools as well, community pools

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<v Speaker 3>so that everyone can access to. We've got a beautiful lake,

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<v Speaker 3>heated pools.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you being paid by like Calido tourist round.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just such a beautiful community. People are lovely and

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<v Speaker 3>my dog is still there. So when I moved to

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<v Speaker 3>leave my kidy there, so shout out to comment his name's.

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<v Speaker 2>Comment what a great name, good name.

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<v Speaker 3>He is living his best life and com.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever go make him as a comment?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he doesn't really care too much for me nowadays.

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<v Speaker 3>You left me here.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you recommend us going to cold?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? One hundred? Yeah, yeah, yeah, what is the ticket? Ticket? Dogs?

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<v Speaker 1>What's getting me is the forest get into?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we've got a chance. We've got a beautiful river,

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<v Speaker 3>tuttle the river and that leads to like the Tuttle

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<v Speaker 3>w Monga, and there's a beautiful waterfalls they called the

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<v Speaker 3>Tutle where the falls Instagram like, okay, so that's part

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<v Speaker 3>of it. You'd enjoy I love I mean, we could

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<v Speaker 3>take you hunting like the boys.

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<v Speaker 2>I can see you hunting. I feel like making.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love that. I like trying new things. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>done hunting clearly. I can see you out.

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<v Speaker 3>There, rainbow stars just in the forest, knife gun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, are hunting? Boom boom boom? Is it like dear

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<v Speaker 2>have a crowd?

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<v Speaker 3>Balls? Yeah? Sometimes it's paste out there to get rid

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<v Speaker 3>of those. I mean, then the flip side, so we're

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<v Speaker 3>real close to the coast so we can get fishing

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<v Speaker 3>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I like fishing. I like being on a boat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so funny. People will know you best from your vintage

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<v Speaker 2>up cycling and selling on Instagram. But I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>want to skip ahead the conversation a little bit because

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like you're a bit of a sustain ability guy,

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<v Speaker 2>like being out in the forest out getting that Kimwana

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<v Speaker 2>is your roots in Caledo kind of an influence on that.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you get into this kind of sustainability mind's it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so like many I guess Maori. So my mom's Maori.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad sawmone and both of them were born in

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<v Speaker 3>New Zealand. So the narrative for me was real, I

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<v Speaker 3>guess different because my dad had a New Zealand kind

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<v Speaker 3>of experience and what that meant for me, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>was what I kind of gained economically, I lost culturally,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I did. My mom was from oh yoh,

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<v Speaker 3>from the side. She's from T three eight wow, shout

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<v Speaker 3>out to dark side, so deep, so far, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>she's she was like her family are like market gardeners.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know that movie Mazion? Yes, yes, so my

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<v Speaker 3>uncle wrote and directed that movie. Wow Potato spots because

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<v Speaker 3>but we kind of like, yeah, it was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a racist.

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<v Speaker 2>Community with the color bars and yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a book called No Maori Allowed. My fin

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<v Speaker 3>are a big part of that. So connection from our

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<v Speaker 3>culture real, and those sorts of things were very real

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<v Speaker 3>for us. And then my dad kind of similar brought

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<v Speaker 3>up in the Salmon family, but he kind of distanced

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<v Speaker 3>and that kind of I don't know, he lived that

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<v Speaker 3>worldly life and yeah, and then he married a Maori

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<v Speaker 3>lady and kind of, I guess in his own way,

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<v Speaker 3>distanced himself from his culture as well. So I came

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<v Speaker 3>along and I was like, who am I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>reconnecting with both sides, I suppose, And it was through

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<v Speaker 3>like and like learning about Pu and Kaue and learning

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<v Speaker 3>values and then how it's kind of implemented in our lives.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what influenced the whole fashion thing. It was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>I spend so much money on I got all these

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<v Speaker 3>I won't name them, but I'll go to the malls,

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<v Speaker 3>right and I get yeah, we know the brain Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and so the whole op shopping idea, and then realizing

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<v Speaker 3>that all of the best clothes are actually at the

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<v Speaker 3>op shop yeah, and really cheap, and sometimes in my size,

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<v Speaker 3>which is hard to find.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, because you're tall and I'm also tall, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's hard to find our sizes because all the skinny

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<v Speaker 1>so they can look baggy. That's my actual truth side.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. So that's kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, the the inception of it, and then just

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<v Speaker 3>built on from there as I developed and grew to

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<v Speaker 3>like more clothes and find more clothes. Wow, this is cool,

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<v Speaker 3>and then figured out that actually I could probably turn

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<v Speaker 3>this into a business, so started selling clothes that I

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<v Speaker 3>was finding and learning about the amount of clothes that

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<v Speaker 3>goes to waste. Op shops are crazy. So the current

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<v Speaker 3>on Newtown that I connect with every month, they have

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<v Speaker 3>to cull, so they actually have to go through their

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<v Speaker 3>racks and get rid of a lot of stuff because

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<v Speaker 3>they've got a whole stock room that needs to come

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<v Speaker 3>out and those clothes goes that goes to the landfall.

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<v Speaker 3>And you think about every single op shop in the

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<v Speaker 3>country that has to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it is like wild.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's crazy. So that's where the upcycling comes in.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, man, I need to, well, one,

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<v Speaker 3>make me some clothes that fit me. So that's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of where the sewing comes in because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>make my own clothes and then at the same time

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<v Speaker 3>it's try and reuse as much as we can.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. And I also, I mean, it's in

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<v Speaker 2>your name one hundred percent, like creative Taro. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like there's no mistaking that you're proud to be like

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<v Speaker 2>Pacific and Mardi. It's just like us with our tidle

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<v Speaker 2>island roots, orkand ways, Like there's no mistaking. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>it's a positionality statement. Don't mess with me on this.

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<v Speaker 2>So the fact that you're able to build in like

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<v Speaker 2>those cultural values and those culture with into your practice

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<v Speaker 2>within your practice is so it's so cool. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>start up cycling with the intention to have a business

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<v Speaker 2>out of it or were you just like I need

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<v Speaker 2>to make clothes that for me or I want to

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<v Speaker 2>but of both yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So the finding sizes, you know, closing your size

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<v Speaker 3>is very real. So the whole idea around well, just

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<v Speaker 3>gonna make my own it's like going to be I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to have the only like shirt I made it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of one. Yea stunting on everybody out here.

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<v Speaker 3>So that kind of influenced that part as well. And

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<v Speaker 3>then yeah, the value stuff is really important, just like

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<v Speaker 3>the whole reconnecting with your culture.

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<v Speaker 2>So cool.

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<v Speaker 1>What are some of the learnings or challenges that you've

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<v Speaker 1>come along the way in this journey.

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<v Speaker 3>There's heaps in terms of business. I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>such a great business model because it didn't require a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of investment, So a young person out there like listening,

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<v Speaker 3>you can actually start today and what I do. So

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<v Speaker 3>I had ten dollars with me and my son. We

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<v Speaker 3>were in and I had decided that instead of buying

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<v Speaker 3>clothes for ourselves, we're going to actually create this and

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<v Speaker 3>turn this into a business, build us you know, some

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<v Speaker 3>multiple revenue streams, and so we turned the ten dollars

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<v Speaker 3>into I think forty wow. And then we just figured

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<v Speaker 3>out kind of business acumen I suppose with very little

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<v Speaker 3>like investment or capital, having to you know, the risk

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<v Speaker 3>of losing all that money. Ten bucks suite as all good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe to'll lose that if this, you know, falls down,

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<v Speaker 3>but just starting there and then building on it like

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<v Speaker 3>starting small and just continually growing and growing. It's probably

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<v Speaker 3>one of the biggest things I learned. And then the

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<v Speaker 3>importance of social media I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was just about to ask, because that would have been

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<v Speaker 1>instrumental in promoting yourself right.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent. Like, and I feel for small businesses

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<v Speaker 3>because you kind of if you want to run a

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<v Speaker 3>small business, now you also have to be a full

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<v Speaker 3>time content creator, truly truly like you kind of you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>ruining yourself if you don't. Yeah, almost a certain degree.

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<v Speaker 3>So that has been real pivotal, and that's something I

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<v Speaker 3>really preach to other people as well, like, make sure

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<v Speaker 3>your content's on be authentic, be yourself, make it engaging.

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<v Speaker 3>And sometimes it's the most mundane activities that people can

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<v Speaker 3>really get into.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what you don't expect to.

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<v Speaker 3>Blow it to it. Yeah yeah, And I just sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so like, I'll make hats and they're not selling,

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<v Speaker 3>So in my head, I'm like, Okay, how do I

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<v Speaker 3>move this? How do I get eyes on this? So

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<v Speaker 3>what I'll do is I'll create content that's like comedy based, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I'll wear the products and then I'll make

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<v Speaker 3>a funny skit or whatever. Get some attention, and then

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<v Speaker 3>in the comments people are like, bro, that hats me.

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<v Speaker 3>An you come in with the sales, like, hey bro,

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<v Speaker 3>it's actually available, follow the link and then it turns

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<v Speaker 3>into a sales So, like.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're hilarious. Like the skits you make and

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<v Speaker 2>the reels you make are very, very, very funny. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you always made stuff like that on social media? Or what?

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<v Speaker 2>Did the light switch flip one day and you were like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I want to do. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>add in a bit of comedy and like my funniness

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<v Speaker 2>and my personality to this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So my roots are actually in performing arts, so

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<v Speaker 3>natural progression and like you guys are like like many

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<v Speaker 3>Brown people, we're multi with the talents. Yes, so and

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<v Speaker 3>then that's where the whole creative tire thing comes in.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not just creative in one aspect. I do a

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<v Speaker 3>whole bunch of stuff. Yeah, and just kind of leveraging

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<v Speaker 3>off the skill sets I hear, because like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>no money, no capital sets to start this business. But

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<v Speaker 3>what I do have is my skills. Yeah, so let's

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<v Speaker 3>use them so you have vantage. So yeah, that whole

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<v Speaker 3>comedy and just trying to be clever with the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's an attention economy that we're in, and

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<v Speaker 3>how do I get people's attention. So it's either jokes

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<v Speaker 3>or you know, pictures of me and a bikini. So

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<v Speaker 3>I had to choose.

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<v Speaker 1>Read outdoor and shower.

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<v Speaker 3>Just in the in the beach and the thing. I thought, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>people aren't gonna like that. I'll do the comedy route.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I love that. What kind of performing outs? Did

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<v Speaker 2>you like? Grow up in church singing?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So my dad's coal so seven Davin. We do a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of singing, not a whole lot of cultural stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But then I also attended people, I know, if you're familiar.

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<v Speaker 2>People no no, no, no, no no, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Iconic people, stuff like Institute of Performance.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was tutored by Sean Coyle, Lady Chadwick.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah get out.

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<v Speaker 3>So I had that in my bag. So when I

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<v Speaker 3>started this stuff was like cool, immediate, let me get

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<v Speaker 3>into their bag.

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<v Speaker 1>And okay it's perfect, how peper?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, life changing? Yeah, yeah, incredible. Without those people there

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<v Speaker 3>that mentored me and kind of took me under their wing,

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't have had the experiences that I had soon

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<v Speaker 3>And that's I guess part of the my son calls

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<v Speaker 3>it the law l O creative tires. Yeah you've done this,

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<v Speaker 3>done that, like so yeah, I managed to do a

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<v Speaker 3>few TV gigs, a few movies, short films okay, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I've been part of the New Comedy Festival, performed

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<v Speaker 3>the Herald Theater. I've done all sorts of stuff. I

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<v Speaker 3>did ad last year, like someone who still remembers me

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<v Speaker 3>ringro can you audition for this ad? We've gone. That's

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<v Speaker 3>all good.

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<v Speaker 1>I see paper kids all the time and ads, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, I saw one of the boys. He was

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<v Speaker 3>just in like a corrections ad, and I remember.

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<v Speaker 2>It is wild. I have a background and drama, so

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<v Speaker 2>I love I sure do.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>I love when I see people doing things that are

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<v Speaker 2>not connected to the performing arts entirely using that background

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<v Speaker 2>because for me, I mean, first of all, every job

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<v Speaker 2>requires acting, so it's it's great to have in my

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<v Speaker 2>in my back pocket and your repertoire and my repertoire,

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<v Speaker 2>but also the skills that studying drama or getting a

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<v Speaker 2>drama degree gave me like second to none. Like obviously

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<v Speaker 2>there's the lame, like walking around in a circle tending

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<v Speaker 2>you're an animal. There's those exercites that maybe probably don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to read ass this, Yeah, but like the people

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<v Speaker 2>skills and the confidence it gave me insane next level.

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<v Speaker 3>I think too that one of the underrated things about

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<v Speaker 3>performing arts and acting in particular is the understanding of

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<v Speaker 3>human behavior. And when you have to kind of reenact

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<v Speaker 3>or be become a different person or a character, understand

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<v Speaker 3>their history, their backstory and whatnot, you actually start to

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<v Speaker 3>learn about other people, yes, and like you look at

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<v Speaker 3>them and what's what's the behind their behavior? And it

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<v Speaker 3>kind of comes from acting as well, like understanding your

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<v Speaker 3>roles and your character and the story plot and what

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<v Speaker 3>we're trying to achieve it. And I've kind of taking

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<v Speaker 3>that into like youth work as well. It's like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>this kid's playing out what's the behavior, what's the backstory

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<v Speaker 3>of this character? So it's a huge teaching performing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>he's on I m dB.

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<v Speaker 1>I just.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, so you should have goodness. It's crazy look

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<v Speaker 4>here on my camera.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow wow, wow, I saw powerlifting as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, your son is right, your law goes crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh jeez. Okay, So Jordan, we've had a few Samui

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<v Speaker 1>guests on the show recently and everyone has different experiences,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, but we want to know from you how

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<v Speaker 1>was that blended upbringing with both cultures.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. Man, that's such a I guess complex question in

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<v Speaker 3>a way. Yeah, Like I kind of touched on or

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<v Speaker 3>form with Mum and Dad. They were they like said,

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<v Speaker 3>Dad speaks pigeon someone, it's hilarious and it comes out

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<v Speaker 3>of nowhere sometimes. So he didn't speak it to us

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<v Speaker 3>in the house growing up, and then Mum doesn't call

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<v Speaker 3>it with it either, So kind of navigating that space

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<v Speaker 3>and identity wise was kind of tricky as well, because

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<v Speaker 3>Dad was taking us to church and I'd sit there

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<v Speaker 3>and local when they I was up there and talking

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<v Speaker 3>and I like my game to hell. But then I'd

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<v Speaker 3>go to the Madai with with my nanny who would

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<v Speaker 3>take me to poke around White Cottle and same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm listening to the fight corded or listening to kut On'

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<v Speaker 3>what are they talking about? I'm going to go down

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<v Speaker 3>to the species and play down the room. So that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that was quite tricky, hard to navigate. And then you're

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<v Speaker 3>dealing with that kind of external stuff at school as well,

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<v Speaker 3>like because I'm brown presenting and you know that comes

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<v Speaker 3>with some stereotypes that comes with some attitudes and behaviors

0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:31.960
<v Speaker 3>and how you're treated. So yeah, navigating that was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of tricky. So what I actually attached myself to was

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<v Speaker 3>like pop culture, so movies that I grew up with,

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<v Speaker 3>music and hip hop and arts was kind of became

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<v Speaker 3>my identity in sports as well. So yeah, Maldi and Salmon,

0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:53.480
<v Speaker 3>those kind of areas are also strong as well, Like

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<v Speaker 3>we're great performers, we are great athletes, we're great orators

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<v Speaker 3>and storytellers, and kind of my entry pointed to my

0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:05.679
<v Speaker 3>culture was through those kind of mediums, I suppose. So

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<v Speaker 3>Mum was funny. Mum was a hilarious Maldi girl from

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<v Speaker 3>and she like, let's be honestly out here being racist,

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<v Speaker 3>as my old man is like, ah, these moldy And

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<v Speaker 3>then there's like kind of dynamics, I suppose, but at

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<v Speaker 3>the same time realizing how very similar, yeah, at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time and finding those connections and beautiful things. But

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<v Speaker 3>my grandfather, beautiful man, man of very few words, but

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<v Speaker 3>he would always tell me how proud he was to

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<v Speaker 3>have Maori grandchild like grandchildren, and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like cool because I couldn't have deep conversations

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<v Speaker 3>with him because he didn't speak very much English. So

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<v Speaker 3>I was just like he was always telling me, how proud,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's got these money, so maldi kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like yeah. And then my grandmother who's from she just

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<v Speaker 3>she's she's gangster. She was just what, Yeah, you tell

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 3>them anybody you're someone like cool, Like you know, I

0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:13.800
<v Speaker 3>carry my grandfather's last name as well, Tweetmas, and you're

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:14.960
<v Speaker 3>always very proud of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. That's really special.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean even my name Taru, like Tarro is my

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<v Speaker 3>street name. It was actually my tag name when I

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<v Speaker 3>was a young fellow, so like even kind of with

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<v Speaker 3>my culture. Everyone said, I was like, you know, man,

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<v Speaker 3>you're huge, like as a kid, like you're a big bro,

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<v Speaker 3>like you're eating all the taro and that's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the name come from something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so tar became a hurt. I don't tag anymore guys,

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<v Speaker 3>So counsel, it wasn't me.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Jordan, you recently completed the course and the MAI,

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<v Speaker 1>So what has your real learning journey been?

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<v Speaker 3>Like funny, it's hilarious, and because you know, you're kind

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<v Speaker 3>of dealing dealing with your trauma and your issues in

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:09.679
<v Speaker 3>life and you're navigating the spaces and you're taking that

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 3>step into your culture and learning your language. I've gained

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<v Speaker 3>so much confidence because I've managed to make friends who

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<v Speaker 3>are just incredible orators and speakers, and they've given me

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<v Speaker 3>really great advice. So when it's coming from the likes

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 3>of these types of people, making yourself look silly or

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<v Speaker 3>not know things is okay. And they've told me that

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<v Speaker 3>it's normal. Break you don't know what you don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Soon just make sure your consistencies there, you're keeping at

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<v Speaker 3>it and you're kind of implementing it in other areas

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<v Speaker 3>of your life as well. So, yeah, that journey has

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:51.479
<v Speaker 3>been funny. That's why I said it's funny. It's real funny.

0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 3>My dad actually speaks more Maldy than he does someone

0:24:55.080 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 3>really yeah, he out here is being so like, Yeah,

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 3>it's been it's interesting and just at home and my

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 3>both my younger sisters went through Kohunga and they're both

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.439
<v Speaker 3>actually quite proficient, and and you got me who went

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 3>through mainstream, and I was the experiment because I was

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:20.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm the eldest, okay, So that was the one that

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:21.200
<v Speaker 3>they didn't know what to do.

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:23.160
<v Speaker 2>For the best.

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.400
<v Speaker 3>A lot of mistakes with it, I suppose, but yeah,

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:30.920
<v Speaker 3>just trying to figure it out and just being vulnerable

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:34.120
<v Speaker 3>enough and confident in what you don't know. Yeah, it's

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:36.399
<v Speaker 3>been real key for me, Like having the confidence to

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 3>be like, actually, I don't know what you're talking about,

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 3>and you please explain it to me, because sometimes you

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:44.680
<v Speaker 3>tell you the next to your classmates, they're actually thinking

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 3>the same thing, but that mum wise their shame that

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 3>they hold and of not wanting to ask just in

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 3>case they look silly. Yeah it looks silly, man, All good.

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe that's something we need to take on.

0:25:58.040 --> 0:25:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Looks silly looks, silly looks.

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Embrace the silliness.

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 2>I feel like because I work in a bilingual community hub,

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 2>my to deal Maldi proficiency is a lot higher than

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 2>my young and a sawhat. And I feel like I

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:15.680
<v Speaker 2>am allowed to look sillier learning to deal Mardy because

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not Mardy. You know, there's a less of an

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 2>illness because they're like, oh, we don't expect the salmon

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 2>girl to you know, be amazing at to deal Mardy.

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 2>That's fine, But then I feel so much pressure when

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.640
<v Speaker 2>it comes to going to like Simonie language classes where

0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my god, I don't know how to

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.119
<v Speaker 2>pronounce my peeth very well, and you know, all of

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, it's a lot more stressful, but we need

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:40.160
<v Speaker 2>to embrace the sillinesses.

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:44.199
<v Speaker 1>It's such a good point. Yeah, there's less pressure about

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 1>speaking a language that's not yours your own.

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:49.159
<v Speaker 2>Did you ever feel more connected to one side of

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 2>your culture than the other growing up? No, okay, yeah,

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I love.

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 3>That interestingly, So I got taken everywhere in the car,

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 3>so I'll be going to all the different like church

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 3>events and family events on my som one side, and

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 3>then my sisters would be with my mom's side doing

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 3>all the Maori kind of stuff. But the intersect was

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:15.400
<v Speaker 3>always there, like we yeah, but.

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Really, yeah that's great. That's not often the narrative.

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 3>For a lot of I think. Yeah, Like to be honest, though,

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 3>I was. I was out on the streets as well though,

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 3>like from for real, Yeah, like it was there sarmon Maori,

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 3>but I was also out here trying to do other things.

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Other things.

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that kind of identity crisis thing there, and like

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:42.159
<v Speaker 3>identifying is something completely different. It was real, Like I

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:46.879
<v Speaker 3>literally remember being in primary school with the ambition and

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 3>goal to become a gang member. Wow, Like that was

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 3>the goal, and that was what I had kind of

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 3>attached myself to for a very long time, so that

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 3>I guess it wasn't there for me because I had

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 3>something else, Yeah, and attached myself to this thing over here,

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:06.919
<v Speaker 3>which was very present around me in my life. Like

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 3>my parents did really well for with what they had,

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 3>but the environment that we were in ourselves was not

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 3>the greatest. And so my influences and role models weren't

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:21.479
<v Speaker 3>at the what I They weren't at the church, they

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 3>were out on the street. And so that's who I

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 3>gravitated towards and that's kind of been the the I guess,

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 3>the turning point for me to become a youth worker.

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 3>That's how that started as well. So I had to

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 3>turn away from the gang.

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.119
<v Speaker 1>And what got you out of that?

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 3>My best friend who I grew up with was murdered. Yeah,

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 3>you'll stabbed to death. I'm yeah, that's all good. So

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 3>part of what I do is kind of in honor

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 3>of him and saying you're you're not going to wasteless life.

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 3>So he was only fourteen at the time, so I

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 3>was young, so that when that happened, you come to

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 3>a crossroad and you have to look yourself in the

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 3>mirror like is this actually worth it? Like what are

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 3>we really fighting for here?

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 3>And why are we fighting our own Yeah? Yes, So

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 3>that was the turning point for me. It happened very young,

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 3>So me from that moment on, I was like, nah,

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 3>I need to we need to change the narrative and

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 3>break these damn stereotypes manly.

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Credits to you for looking in the mirror and you know,

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>trying to snap yourself out of it because it's hard.

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure. I guess Crudos to my family actually,

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 3>who had You know, my parents are the type of

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 3>parents that they showed me what not to do. Yeah,

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 3>and they understand and they're cool with that. So some

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 3>of the things that I witnessed growing up wasn't great,

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 3>but being able to reflect and see the good things

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 3>that they also did. And so my nan she actually

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 3>went back like early nineties, late eighties, early nineties to

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 3>learn to il Maori again and then she became a

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 3>kayako at the quonga and then that so that you know,

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 3>her decision to do that, I guess impacted in that

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 3>trickle down. So my mum made a few good decisions

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 3>in life as well, enough for me to be able

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:16.479
<v Speaker 3>to have opportunities. And now it's my teen to you know,

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 3>make a few good decisions and life say that my

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 3>son and my daughter can have some good opportunities as well. So,

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean that's what intergenerational trauma is, right, and yeah,

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 3>we need it, you know, we actually need intergenerational solutions.

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh I love that. Yeah, breaking those cycles. Yeah.

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Do you think being a father is also a huge

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 2>motivation for you then?

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I was a teenage dad. Yeah, eighteen was

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 3>when I found out I was going to be a father,

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 3>and another mirror moment.

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Mirror moment.

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 3>So I didn't do too well in high school and

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 3>sport at that time, and performing arts was the only

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 3>kind of things I had in my bag and my

0:30:56.960 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 3>kids is so I took the sports routetually, got scouted

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 3>at the NRL. I played footy, and then I found

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 3>out I was going to have a kid, and I

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 3>just had to get a nine to five. You said, ah,

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 3>you know what, I need to take care of my

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 3>family at the time. He's here, he's in the studio. Man,

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 3>I should have just.

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Went living a Monday, no regrets, no regret, no regrets.

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so another another mirror moment and then just deciding

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 3>again making good choices from then on. Howawa, because the

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 3>choices that I make now, like I'm in my thirties,

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 3>they're actually going to impact my grandchildren. So I need

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 3>to make some damn good ones. And we don't think

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 3>about fucker poppa and that kind of waste sometimes. And yeah,

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 3>I just want to make sure I make some good

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 3>moves now so that my grandkids can, you know, get

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 3>that Auckland grammar education could go to those fancy, fancy

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 3>schools that out never be able to get into.

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 2>I went to a fancy spancy school. Yeah, I would

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:07.959
<v Speaker 2>recommend round children anyway.

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I went to school, and I don't know, we

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>are would see my children.

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Maybe just at schools in general. Maybe we need to

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 2>just overhaul the education system. Yeah, we can take that out.

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>So Yeah, eighteen, you're scouted by the NRL, you find

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>out that you're having a child, and then you go

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>into a nine.

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 3>To five job.

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Was there like a little bit of your heart that

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>was just like withering away?

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah at that time, because I kind of had I

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 3>was content that my sporting career was over, and that

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 3>was fine, all good, sweet airs because that shelf life's

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 3>very short anyway. So then the performing arts thing come about,

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:04.720
<v Speaker 3>and you know, I'm getting that the family family text credits.

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 3>You're relying on that to be able to get nephies

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 3>and formula and whatnot, and then that whole like wanting

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 3>to I just needed more money. Man out here being broke,

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 3>I got a young family. What could I do to

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 3>change this? You know, what's a good decision that I

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 3>could make? So I went down the performing arts are up,

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 3>moves out to Auckland and rolled to people. Yep, did

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 3>a few gigs here and there, made some money. Yeah,

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 3>opened up some other doors and avenues as well.

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>We are going to move on to our rapid fire

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Kim now, but I feel like Alissa should leaders one.

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I apologize, Jordan. I didn't know you were

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 2>a league guy. I thought you liked every kind of rugby,

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 2>So I'm really sorry. But what we've got for our

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 2>rapid fire QMU today is a blind ranking of PACIFICA

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 2>rugby players. So what I'm going to do is I'm

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 2>going to say a name, and there's going to be

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 2>five positions like one, two, three, four, five. So I'm

0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 2>going to say a name and you can put it

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 2>anywhere on that five. But you don't know what name

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 2>is coming next. So you can either pick based on

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 2>like goat status, or you can pick based on like

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 2>your favorite player. So does it makes does it make sense?

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Cool?

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Thank you?

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Because? Okay, So the first player Jonah one one immediately Okay,

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 2>that's like you've got every other position lf.

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 3>Like Joan.

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Legend.

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 3>He's the greatest player we've ever had in the world.

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's pretty iconic. Okay, first someone rugby player for

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 2>the All Blacks, Sir Brian Williams. See do you want to?

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Should I tell you what I would put her at?

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 2>For me? He's a five only because I'm not of

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:45.879
<v Speaker 2>that era.

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm just thinking about paving the way that too, and

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 3>that erar.

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.720
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty iconic. Is like in the Rugby Hall of Fame.

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.240
<v Speaker 3>Let me put on four four?

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're nice?

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Where else we go?

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:02.399
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we've got one four so far to.

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 3>Let me put it at five.

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Maybe two is my fave. Okay, I've got two and

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 2>three left?

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:25.320
<v Speaker 3>Right? Was he your first someone All Blacks captain.

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh can you fact chick there?

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know who you got next to?

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Something like the last one is pretty iconic.

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 3>Okay, let me put it three.

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 2>You put them at three? Yes, well now I'm scared

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 2>of over iconic. Okay. Number five the iceman Michael Jones

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 2>easy too easy, too easy to Okay. Since you are

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 2>a league guy, though, who's your favorite League player of

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:55.320
<v Speaker 2>all time? Is there a favorite?

0:35:55.400 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? There is, I like the biggest fan boy. He

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 3>doesn't play anymore. Okay, but like I was advocating for

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 3>him all the way through, man, like every step of

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 3>his career.

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I've just oh, I think I know who it is.

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.320
<v Speaker 3>It's the reason why I sent my son to Megs.

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I do think it is absolutely Doggies.

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:27.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, Dogies Sonny. But Williams, Yeah, he's my.

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:28.800
<v Speaker 2>He was going to be on my list.

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 3>He's my goat. I was actually waiting for him to

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:39.280
<v Speaker 3>pop up. That's why I can Sonny is like, yeah,

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 3>he's allegiance. I don't think we give him enough credit. No, no,

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.839
<v Speaker 3>and off the field stuff for sight. I'm talking on

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 3>the field only, like what he was able to do.

0:36:49.600 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, Jack of all trades, master, incredible, master out

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>to s b W my favor.

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 2>And how would you make Jordan Rickey.

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 3>You got to win a few in our premierships first? Yeah, yeah,

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, what are we talking here, Jordan, come on.

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm talking looks. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Also Joseph, Yeah, please, my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Get into Joseph because I saw him doing an interview

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<v Speaker 1>with jerreml Way and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, damn, I saw the interview.

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<v Speaker 3>Too crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's moving though.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you know, I want to make a case

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<v Speaker 3>for Bunty four. I think you I mean the personality

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<v Speaker 3>to go with the I put him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wish I knew more. I'm so sorry, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Any other person.

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<v Speaker 1>From the Worst. I think I've interviewed him before at

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<v Speaker 1>nine on the What about.

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<v Speaker 2>Sell Harris Tabita?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he is a handsome boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing about the Is he a good player? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's good. He's very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Martin did well absolutely that game against the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 3>Regards guys for.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, oh gosh, well, Jordane, that's all we have time for.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for coming into Alan roots Aukland ways,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, guys, And then we have another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Island Roots Aukland Ways, thank you Jordan for coming on,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully we can go to Colo.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure surely basically an Aird him coming.

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<v Speaker 1>On here, we'll have the lis like the Hunting Legister

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<v Speaker 1>were going, well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll make it work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, any excuse to by hunting and fishing