1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,147 Speaker 1: from News Talk sed b Wine. 3 00:00:12,987 --> 00:00:15,547 Speaker 2: Apples for the All Blacks min minutes in Size African Territory. 4 00:00:15,587 --> 00:00:17,587 Speaker 2: Taylor's tapped on South Africa's. 5 00:00:17,187 --> 00:00:22,907 Speaker 3: Side and they'll pick it out in South Africa beat the. 6 00:00:22,907 --> 00:00:25,347 Speaker 2: All Blacks eighteen quills. 7 00:00:25,947 --> 00:00:30,347 Speaker 3: And for the first time in simity five years, the 8 00:00:30,427 --> 00:00:36,427 Speaker 3: Old Blacks close fourth straight to their old phone. It's 9 00:00:36,467 --> 00:00:38,907 Speaker 3: South African Joy and cap Town. 10 00:00:39,747 --> 00:00:43,387 Speaker 1: The Freedom Cup is South Africa's cup. 11 00:00:43,707 --> 00:00:46,787 Speaker 3: It's Elliot Smith with the call for News Talk gaz 12 00:00:47,027 --> 00:00:51,427 Speaker 3: to b yep four on the bounce. Familiar site now right, 13 00:00:51,947 --> 00:00:55,227 Speaker 3: fourth straight lost to the spring box and to empty 14 00:00:55,267 --> 00:00:57,427 Speaker 3: the bin over. This will be joined by All Blacks 15 00:00:57,467 --> 00:01:00,827 Speaker 3: assistant coach Tammothy Allison and he joins us on the 16 00:01:00,827 --> 00:01:03,867 Speaker 3: blower at Tamoity. That's a that's a tough day at 17 00:01:03,907 --> 00:01:07,427 Speaker 3: the office on the part. Look, the chances were there 18 00:01:08,587 --> 00:01:11,387 Speaker 3: from time to time execution in the end, you just 19 00:01:11,507 --> 00:01:13,947 Speaker 3: couldn't get it over the line right to first up. 20 00:01:13,987 --> 00:01:16,307 Speaker 3: Your initial reaction to actually what happened. 21 00:01:16,067 --> 00:01:19,547 Speaker 2: In the game, Yeah, I think you're your snobs is 22 00:01:19,547 --> 00:01:23,787 Speaker 2: pretty accurate there, and we saw those same same things so. 23 00:01:25,387 --> 00:01:28,507 Speaker 4: It was obviously gutted and it's quite changing at the moment. 24 00:01:28,667 --> 00:01:30,307 Speaker 4: We had our opportunities key moments. 25 00:01:30,347 --> 00:01:32,547 Speaker 3: As far as your team are concerned, to Tarmante, do 26 00:01:32,547 --> 00:01:35,747 Speaker 3: you think there's any area where you could have done better? 27 00:01:36,507 --> 00:01:37,827 Speaker 4: It's all pretty raw. 28 00:01:37,907 --> 00:01:40,627 Speaker 2: Now take me a while to get through the tape 29 00:01:40,667 --> 00:01:43,747 Speaker 2: tonight and tomorrow morning to give you a real accurate 30 00:01:44,067 --> 00:01:44,867 Speaker 2: coaches description. 31 00:01:46,147 --> 00:01:49,547 Speaker 4: But yes, there's just some obvious ones around down. 32 00:01:49,387 --> 00:01:51,507 Speaker 2: There half of the field and then the big swings 33 00:01:51,947 --> 00:01:53,747 Speaker 2: they capitalized when they got down to your end and 34 00:01:54,507 --> 00:01:56,947 Speaker 2: we probably we missed a few chances when we were 35 00:01:56,987 --> 00:01:57,587 Speaker 2: down their end. 36 00:01:57,707 --> 00:02:01,987 Speaker 3: Statistically, Talmentee, there wasn't a great deal of difference between 37 00:02:02,067 --> 00:02:05,507 Speaker 3: the two teams in South Africa. They just got the 38 00:02:05,547 --> 00:02:08,467 Speaker 3: whip hand when necessary. But do you think it's fair 39 00:02:08,547 --> 00:02:10,907 Speaker 3: enough to say that you're you're getting close? 40 00:02:11,707 --> 00:02:12,747 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think that is fair. 41 00:02:13,347 --> 00:02:15,067 Speaker 5: It was definitely a testamtch and as you said, with 42 00:02:15,227 --> 00:02:19,707 Speaker 5: the you know the stats very even and you know 43 00:02:19,787 --> 00:02:21,827 Speaker 5: appointing it there for for a very long time. So 44 00:02:22,547 --> 00:02:24,227 Speaker 5: I think that's that's accurate. 45 00:02:24,107 --> 00:02:27,067 Speaker 3: As far as coaching is concerned. Timeing to yourself and 46 00:02:27,347 --> 00:02:29,907 Speaker 3: the rest of the crew, are you satisfied that you 47 00:02:30,187 --> 00:02:34,347 Speaker 3: armed your players, that you gave them the tools they needed, 48 00:02:34,467 --> 00:02:36,987 Speaker 3: and that they applied that on the park. 49 00:02:38,347 --> 00:02:40,987 Speaker 2: We're super proud of the efforts around the collision and 50 00:02:40,987 --> 00:02:43,507 Speaker 2: the intent. I think it was the same last week 51 00:02:44,387 --> 00:02:47,027 Speaker 2: South Africa World champion team and then a big side 52 00:02:47,067 --> 00:02:50,227 Speaker 2: and I think we definitely matched them in the physical 53 00:02:50,987 --> 00:02:51,627 Speaker 2: side of the game. 54 00:02:51,707 --> 00:02:53,707 Speaker 4: So you know, we're proud of the boys and the efforts. 55 00:02:55,307 --> 00:02:58,507 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that answers your question, but that 56 00:02:58,547 --> 00:03:01,987 Speaker 2: the boys definitely showed, you know, the attitude and the 57 00:03:01,987 --> 00:03:03,427 Speaker 2: commitment of the Jersey one hundred. 58 00:03:03,907 --> 00:03:07,387 Speaker 3: Obviously the result wasn't great from a team perspect of tanity, 59 00:03:07,507 --> 00:03:13,147 Speaker 3: but individually there really were some pretty fine performances out there. 60 00:03:13,147 --> 00:03:15,587 Speaker 3: I suppose when you look to players that impressed that 61 00:03:15,667 --> 00:03:20,067 Speaker 3: the young fellow Wallace Stiti, he stood out. He really 62 00:03:20,387 --> 00:03:22,907 Speaker 3: really did his job and I think was one of 63 00:03:22,947 --> 00:03:23,667 Speaker 3: the shining lights. 64 00:03:23,827 --> 00:03:29,467 Speaker 2: H Yeah, an exceptional athlete, a polite young man, and 65 00:03:29,507 --> 00:03:31,147 Speaker 2: as you said, he was young and he's got a 66 00:03:31,187 --> 00:03:32,347 Speaker 2: very bright future. 67 00:03:32,387 --> 00:03:35,427 Speaker 4: So I'm proud of us if it's as well tonight. 68 00:03:35,787 --> 00:03:38,227 Speaker 3: What about the bench, Tuanee. A lot of debate last 69 00:03:38,267 --> 00:03:41,867 Speaker 3: week around how that bench was utilized throughout the game, 70 00:03:42,427 --> 00:03:45,587 Speaker 3: suggested Fletchen, You'll probably came on too late. You looked 71 00:03:45,587 --> 00:03:48,827 Speaker 3: at Lomax and he looked gassed, and that's where the 72 00:03:48,827 --> 00:03:53,267 Speaker 3: mistakes came from. So as far as application of the bench, 73 00:03:53,667 --> 00:03:55,347 Speaker 3: you're happy enough. What do you sit with that? 74 00:03:56,387 --> 00:03:59,107 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I couldn't answer that accurately. I'm gonna I'm 75 00:03:59,147 --> 00:04:00,947 Speaker 4: on the ground running water. 76 00:04:01,027 --> 00:04:05,427 Speaker 2: So there's probably a chrishion for one of the other coaches. 77 00:04:05,707 --> 00:04:09,627 Speaker 4: We're at a time to strategize around how we finished. 78 00:04:09,267 --> 00:04:12,587 Speaker 2: The end to be fair, especially when you're talking front 79 00:04:12,667 --> 00:04:13,227 Speaker 2: rowers as well. 80 00:04:13,427 --> 00:04:16,627 Speaker 3: It's pretty much played to type, didn't they and they executed. 81 00:04:16,627 --> 00:04:19,347 Speaker 3: I think that's the most important thing. When it came 82 00:04:19,427 --> 00:04:22,787 Speaker 3: to their box kicking, when it came to their contestable kicks, 83 00:04:23,107 --> 00:04:26,187 Speaker 3: they had it right on a dime, and of course 84 00:04:26,187 --> 00:04:29,707 Speaker 3: it took guys like Will Jordan out of play and 85 00:04:30,187 --> 00:04:34,427 Speaker 3: it really tested your team. I suppose you saw that coming. 86 00:04:34,987 --> 00:04:39,547 Speaker 2: I think you know it's DNA four rugby box kicking, 87 00:04:39,587 --> 00:04:43,387 Speaker 2: big kicking and compete contests in the air. That's they 88 00:04:43,467 --> 00:04:45,507 Speaker 2: had it for a long time and they do it 89 00:04:45,507 --> 00:04:47,387 Speaker 2: really well. So that's you know what they are where 90 00:04:47,387 --> 00:04:49,787 Speaker 2: they are at the moment year, we saw it coming 91 00:04:49,827 --> 00:04:53,107 Speaker 2: and you have a plan around it. But as I said, 92 00:04:53,227 --> 00:04:55,987 Speaker 2: they're really good at competing in the air and disrupting 93 00:04:56,027 --> 00:04:56,667 Speaker 2: ball in the air. 94 00:04:56,907 --> 00:05:00,147 Speaker 3: And what's your philosophy, what's your edict around when to 95 00:05:00,307 --> 00:05:03,787 Speaker 3: take three points when they are on offer and take 96 00:05:03,827 --> 00:05:07,547 Speaker 3: some criticism last week around that, this time around some 97 00:05:07,707 --> 00:05:10,347 Speaker 3: turned down, some taking some listed. Is there a thought 98 00:05:10,507 --> 00:05:14,427 Speaker 3: that maybe these should be taken regardless of where you 99 00:05:14,667 --> 00:05:16,467 Speaker 3: are as far as the points. 100 00:05:16,267 --> 00:05:18,947 Speaker 6: Are concerned, not regardless, And so you've got to You've 101 00:05:18,947 --> 00:05:21,067 Speaker 6: got to take points on context in the floor of 102 00:05:21,107 --> 00:05:27,147 Speaker 6: the game cards you know, No, it's not. Yeah, you're 103 00:05:27,147 --> 00:05:29,067 Speaker 6: dealing with the context where we think we are forgot 104 00:05:29,107 --> 00:05:30,267 Speaker 6: the momentum, et cetera. 105 00:05:30,507 --> 00:05:34,587 Speaker 3: Plenty of yellow cards being flashed around during the exchanges talitity. 106 00:05:34,707 --> 00:05:37,867 Speaker 3: From your viewpoint, do you feel that the officials, the 107 00:05:37,947 --> 00:05:42,067 Speaker 3: referee I dealt with the applications of yellow cards in 108 00:05:42,107 --> 00:05:42,947 Speaker 3: a fair fashion. 109 00:05:43,387 --> 00:05:45,867 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually unsure as the seat of the balance 110 00:05:45,867 --> 00:05:49,107 Speaker 2: of penalties, I'm being running the water on the really 111 00:05:49,147 --> 00:05:50,227 Speaker 2: have a computer in front of me. 112 00:05:51,147 --> 00:05:52,827 Speaker 4: I thought that yet done a good job. 113 00:05:52,907 --> 00:05:56,587 Speaker 2: That's it's as loud out Therefore, for the referees as 114 00:05:56,587 --> 00:05:58,667 Speaker 2: it is for the players, and they're doing their very best. 115 00:05:58,707 --> 00:06:00,827 Speaker 4: So again we will have a good look at the. 116 00:06:00,747 --> 00:06:05,107 Speaker 2: Tape and and probably have more information for you tomorrow afternoon. 117 00:06:05,987 --> 00:06:10,347 Speaker 3: Credit credits due though the South Africans played some great rugby. 118 00:06:10,347 --> 00:06:12,747 Speaker 3: They have been for quite some time now. It's almost reminiscent, 119 00:06:12,867 --> 00:06:17,547 Speaker 3: reminiscent of the heyday of All Black rugby. They're a 120 00:06:17,907 --> 00:06:22,027 Speaker 3: difficult team to stop and they can stop you guys too. 121 00:06:22,307 --> 00:06:25,787 Speaker 3: Looks like with let's say relative ease. But this is 122 00:06:26,027 --> 00:06:29,107 Speaker 3: a talented team. You have to be impressed with what 123 00:06:29,187 --> 00:06:30,227 Speaker 3: they bring to the park. 124 00:06:30,867 --> 00:06:31,667 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, we are. 125 00:06:33,347 --> 00:06:36,267 Speaker 2: You know, they're winning those pressure moments for a reason, 126 00:06:36,867 --> 00:06:39,827 Speaker 2: you know, the World champions for a reason, So yeah, 127 00:06:40,107 --> 00:06:40,667 Speaker 2: they deserve that. 128 00:06:40,747 --> 00:06:44,387 Speaker 3: Tonight, seven games, three losses telling to you hardly ideal 129 00:06:44,427 --> 00:06:48,747 Speaker 3: for the start of this coaching groups tenure. So what 130 00:06:48,867 --> 00:06:53,267 Speaker 3: happens now moving to the next part of the championship. 131 00:06:53,107 --> 00:06:55,947 Speaker 2: Are the key is, you know, let's stall honest conversations. 132 00:06:55,987 --> 00:06:59,667 Speaker 2: It's a consistent process. It's it's max if at making 133 00:06:59,707 --> 00:07:02,667 Speaker 2: sure we're putting in the work, you know, and and 134 00:07:02,827 --> 00:07:05,707 Speaker 2: helping build the players a week and keeping in the 135 00:07:05,707 --> 00:07:09,627 Speaker 2: group tight. I don't think that would change wins or losses. 136 00:07:09,787 --> 00:07:12,107 Speaker 2: That's that's what the Josey demands and it's our commitment 137 00:07:12,187 --> 00:07:12,787 Speaker 2: to it. 138 00:07:12,827 --> 00:07:16,387 Speaker 3: Spoke of Wallace Satiti and what he provided. There's a 139 00:07:16,427 --> 00:07:19,107 Speaker 3: lot of players out there who played a good game 140 00:07:19,147 --> 00:07:23,827 Speaker 3: of football, and again the target lies on Cody Taylor. 141 00:07:23,987 --> 00:07:26,307 Speaker 3: He's in a rare streak of form right now. 142 00:07:26,227 --> 00:07:27,987 Speaker 4: Isn't he. Yeah, I'm not sure if it's rare. 143 00:07:28,027 --> 00:07:32,027 Speaker 2: He's pretty consistent Cody, you know, he's doing that week 144 00:07:32,067 --> 00:07:33,787 Speaker 2: to week of you manage to coach for. 145 00:07:33,787 --> 00:07:37,707 Speaker 4: A few years, and he is an impressive rugby player 146 00:07:37,827 --> 00:07:38,227 Speaker 4: for sure. 147 00:07:38,427 --> 00:07:42,187 Speaker 3: What happens now, Tom Tee, as far as decompressing, unpacking 148 00:07:42,187 --> 00:07:46,467 Speaker 3: and all of those cliched terms, what has to happen 149 00:07:46,827 --> 00:07:49,587 Speaker 3: before you start up again in a couple of weeks. 150 00:07:49,947 --> 00:07:51,867 Speaker 4: Yeah, recovery now obviously a wee bit of trouble. 151 00:07:51,987 --> 00:07:54,907 Speaker 2: So I make sure the players you know, look after 152 00:07:54,947 --> 00:07:56,827 Speaker 2: the bangs and bruises and make sure we stick tight 153 00:07:56,867 --> 00:08:00,107 Speaker 2: as a group, becauseever we we've bet a time away 154 00:08:00,107 --> 00:08:01,987 Speaker 2: from each other, get back and see our families and 155 00:08:01,987 --> 00:08:05,387 Speaker 2: our loved ones and then get connected up in Australia 156 00:08:05,427 --> 00:08:06,107 Speaker 2: ready to go again. 157 00:08:06,867 --> 00:08:09,907 Speaker 3: And on that It's the end. Tamosy Ellison, thank you 158 00:08:10,027 --> 00:08:12,987 Speaker 3: so much for joining us here on Weekend Sports, assistant 159 00:08:13,027 --> 00:08:17,667 Speaker 3: coach of the All Blacks after suffering defeat again the 160 00:08:17,747 --> 00:08:19,347 Speaker 3: hands of the spring box. 161 00:08:19,947 --> 00:08:23,107 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 162 00:08:23,227 --> 00:08:26,507 Speaker 1: to news Talks at B weekends from midday, or follow 163 00:08:26,547 --> 00:08:28,147 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio