1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: It's let's have another correct time this weekend for the 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: All Blacks as they line the South Africans up with 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: the decider in Cape Town and the early hours of 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Sunday morning, New Zealand time All Blacks coach got robertson 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: with us. 6 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: Good morning, I helped it from South Africa. 7 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Well, it's it's very good. How's it been for you 8 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: talk us through the week? 9 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh look mate, the changing room been in a 10 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: few changing rooms, man, that was That was a tough one. 11 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: That was a lot of herd, a lot of hurd 12 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: and it got of upset people, players and staff and management. 13 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: As you can I Mentionine, we put everything into it 14 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 2: and we didn't get the job done and you got 15 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: turned the page pretty quickly. And on the Monday we 16 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: funked it up. We'll get better and we got on 17 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: with it. 18 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: How exposed have you been this week to the commentary, 19 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: the noise, the local expectation, all of that stuff or 20 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: have you kept yourself away from it? 21 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: I haven't picked on ty Apps, to be honest with you. Well, 22 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: golf course, I know it's going to be there no 23 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: matter what happened, really harm So look, look I'm just 24 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: doing everything I can this work for the team and 25 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: work for the allbacks. And that's my focus. 26 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: On the difference between Ellis Park and this weekend Cape Town, 27 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: the size of support all that. Does that make any 28 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: difference at all or not? 29 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 2: Oh man, that the Ellis Park is someplace that's a 30 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: it's an experience and a half mic. I don't think 31 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: there's anything that you can compare that to you. But 32 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: although I supporters down here as you know that, and 33 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: the Cape of you know, right behind us wet so 34 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: many people at are training and there panetics, so there 35 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: will be a different feel. It's a totally different vibe 36 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: than being up there. But still it's still a big tangle. 37 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: It's still going to be as fierce as it ever has. 38 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: You know the spring box, you know, they when they 39 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: roll up, they roll up. So from from the point 40 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 2: of view, in the atmosphere of view, it doesn't matter 41 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: where you go. In cert Affricate, they know their rugby passionate. 42 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: Doesn't matter what color gender they are, they are into it. 43 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: So look, it's going to be another health testament. 44 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: Are you able to give in one how and last week? 45 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: Are you able to embrace in the guys able to 46 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: embrace the environment because you could argue these are the 47 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: two best sides in the world, the exponents at this 48 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: particular art and that's to be Actually that's exciting. 49 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's the challenge you want, you know, like 50 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: we've it's seven or deeptons of share and they just 51 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: experienced stuff they never would have done before head before. 52 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: To go and do it here against your team, that's 53 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: you know, got clear DNA. You know they want you know, 54 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: they want the ball off the petrol or stop so 55 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: you know, they want a game where it just goes 56 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: into an army stole and a grind. And it's so 57 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: there's so many factors. Is the referee, the interpretation, the laws. 58 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: You know, they can play on top of your things 59 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 2: games so quickly, so you know you've got to learn 60 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: really really quickly. And it's been a great experience for 61 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 2: us to tour. Normally tour, you know, Mike, it's but 62 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: this is a genoine two block tour. You know, normally 63 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: pay a team to back. So that's unique in itself. 64 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: Exactly. Speaking of which, the South African head of rugby, 65 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: let's look at this, this talk of this tour in 66 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six eight matches, three tests. Is that something 67 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: you would relish? 68 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: It'll be an awesome Yeah, it's as your forties, but 69 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: you know if it does come along, but the concept's awesome, 70 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 2: you know, like touring bit of old school to it. 71 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: You know you've got a group of sixty odd midweek 72 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: and just that there's a genuine wine tour eag you know, 73 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: two biggest rivals. So it's something gets you know, it's 74 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: a farty back in time, but it's just what you 75 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: need right now. And we're bugby talk us through. 76 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: You talked about the changing of the site, the changes 77 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: you're making, and some of them are young guys or 78 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: new guys. What do you tell them and why are 79 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: you experimenting to this level at this particular point of 80 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: the tour given you know, many people would argue just 81 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: put your best players on the field that you know, 82 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: can you know live up to the expectation and the tension. 83 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a bit of a balance to that, you know. 84 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: Like obviously we've had a couple of juries. With Deepen 85 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: and Caleb playing great footy, it's tough on them and 86 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: they disappointed, the upset they wanted to play and we 87 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: just see so much in these young these young players, 88 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: and to give them an opportunity, you know, like that's 89 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: what said later for you know, they don't to go 90 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: and play them. You know, look Court has played a 91 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: lot of rugby with the neck. You know, it's an 92 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: exciting young player. And we can finish with TJ. And 93 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: obviously we're both and then his role in his experience 94 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: and what he's done when he's come off the bench. 95 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 2: So we believe we've got a great balance to set 96 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: these guys up to succeed and and go and play that. 97 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: Talented good How are you enjoying it? We haven't talked 98 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: since you've got the job or you know you started 99 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: out in the job. Have the all Blacks got the 100 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: full razor imprint yet? 101 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: Oh? Look, because it's the first of everything. Everything is 102 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: the first you think you do the first test match? 103 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: You know that your first your language, how you set 104 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 2: it up, how I do my mindset stuff for the 105 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: on field, how you run a week? You know, the 106 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: first tour that you've got. So once you've done that 107 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: and even goes I've got it now because everyone's sort 108 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: of sort of guessing what there's a match here to 109 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: what you think when you walk into everyone that we've 110 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: got so your present, everyone's like, oh okay, so there's 111 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 2: a lot of now that's all done. But you don't 112 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: matter how much preparation you do. You really only learn 113 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: when you've got the job. And it's as we know, 114 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: it's all a big job, but it's still about people. 115 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: It's still about you know, trusting your instinct and and 116 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: just stepping forward and doing the right things. So it's 117 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: it's a big the hell of a job, the hell 118 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: of expectation and responsibility comes with it. And the look 119 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: I enjoyed, I'm just going to continue to be myself. 120 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: That's my mind set. 121 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: The best thing you can possibly be. Will go well 122 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: this weekend. Always good to talk to you and you good. 123 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: Scott Robertson out of South Africa for us this moment. 124 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 125 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 126 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.