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Speaker 2: Calling Good afternoon and welcome into a new weekend and

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Speaker 2: to a fresh edition on Saturday of Weekend Sport. It

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Speaker 2: is June fifteenth. I'm Jason Pine, Mark Kelly's show producer.

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Speaker 2: Today we're here talking sport with you until three o'clock

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. The Blues are into the Super Rugby Final.

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Speaker 3: And the Blues well head to the big dance next

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Speaker 3: weekends against either the Hurricanes or the Cheeks. Thirty four

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Speaker 3: to twenty, the Blues beat the Brombies and punch their

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Speaker 3: ticket to the Super Rugby Pacific Grand Final.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but of a cruise for the Blues last night,

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Speaker 2: assistant coach Paul Tito in the next half hour, so

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Speaker 2: to wrap this one for us, there went over the Brumby's.

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Speaker 2: Blues fans. Feel free to luxuriate in your second Grand

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Speaker 2: Final in three years if you'd like to. This afternoon,

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Speaker 2: the second semi final is this afternoon in Wellington Hurricanes

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Speaker 2: v Chiefs. Absolutely fascinating clash in prospect, bit of a

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Speaker 2: coin flip. Great one for the neutral, very nervous for

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Speaker 2: those of us who aren't neutrals. Hurricanes Lucy Duplici Kadifi

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Speaker 2: and Chiefs winger at Tenny Nanisatuto with us after one

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Speaker 2: o'clock and your thoughts, your hopes, your fears, your dreams,

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Speaker 2: your predictions are welcome on this one as well. Who

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Speaker 2: will be facing the Blues in the Super Rugby Grand

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Speaker 2: Final a week tonight? Letting us off today though the

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Speaker 2: growing calls for a State of Origin game to be

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Speaker 2: played in New Zealand. Is this actually a possibility and

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Speaker 2: what are the obstacles to overcome if it is to

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Speaker 2: become reality? TARTUCKI Auckland Unlimited Chief executive Nick Hill. It

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Speaker 2: will be with us shortly. Your thoughts on this warmly

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Speaker 2: encouraged as well. How attractive a proposition is watching State

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Speaker 2: of Origin here in New Zealand? Other matters around today.

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Speaker 2: Massive game of rugby league tonight at a sold out

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Speaker 2: mount Smart Stadium, Warriors v. Storm, Warrior's Second Row with

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Speaker 2: Jackson Ford on the show as the home side looks

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Speaker 2: to break a windless streak against the Melbourne Storm that

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Speaker 2: stretches all the way back to twenty fifteen. Well halfway

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Speaker 2: through Golf's US Open at Pinehurst number two, Sweden's Ludwig

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Speaker 2: o Berg has a one shot clubhouse lead at five under,

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Speaker 2: ahead of a chasing pack of a bunch of players

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Speaker 4: Including Rory mclorry.

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Speaker 2: He's actually a shot further back on three under golf

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Speaker 2: Gero Mike Clayton with us after two on that and

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Speaker 2: veteran's cricket is growing here in New Zealand. We have

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Speaker 2: a team headed to the over seventies World Cup in.

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Speaker 4: England next month.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully they'll do better than the Black Caps of the

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Speaker 2: T twenty World Cup. Going to cover that off Adam

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Speaker 2: Peacock along talking Australian Sport in his regular slot Live

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Speaker 2: Sport this afternoon. The CAP's about to get underway against

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Speaker 2: Uganda at the T twenty World Cup. Of course they

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Speaker 2: can't make the Super eights now, so playing only for pride.

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Speaker 2: We'll keep very close tabs on that for you. South

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Speaker 2: Africa and Nepal also in action and in the NBA

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Speaker 2: Finals Game four between the Celtics and the Mavericks and

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Speaker 2: Dallas tipping off around twelve thirty. The Celtics can win

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Speaker 2: the NBA Championship with victory today round three in Football's

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Speaker 2: Chatham Cup, as well a bunch of games to keep

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Speaker 2: an eye on up and down the country. You can

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Speaker 2: get in touch with us whenever you're like, oh, eight

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Speaker 4: Just gone ten past midday.

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Speaker 5: The school from the.

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vine Us Talks NB.

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Speaker 2: There is no greater spectacle annually in Australasian sport than

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Speaker 2: State of Origin.

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Speaker 4: Hans pushes it on you.

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Speaker 6: The lives it in his Secretariams. He's scanting along the

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Speaker 6: thirty five of Thos kind of getting very kicks, advertage

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Speaker 3: Oh the chick was majistic, had extraordinary been a.

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Speaker 4: Football by the pieces.

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Speaker 7: Five year old Queensland captain to get better.

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Speaker 8: By the year.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's from State of Origin this year.

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Speaker 2: Fresh reports surfacing this week of talks to bring a

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Speaker 2: State of Origin game to Auckland in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: This idea has been bubbling away for a while. There

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Speaker 2: was plenty of noise about it last year as a

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Speaker 2: So is this actually a possibility? Tatucki Auckland Unlimited is

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Speaker 2: Auckland Council's economic and cultural agency charged with maximizing cultural,

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Speaker 2: Auckland region. Chief executive is Nick Hill, who joins us now, Nick,

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Speaker 2: thanks for taking the time.

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Speaker 4: How keen are you to bring State of Origin to Aalkland?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 2: We don't have Nick on the air there just at

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Speaker 2: the moment, so we'll pop them back on hold. Mark

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Speaker 2: the air in just a second. I'm here, all right,

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Speaker 2: you are, We've got you there, Nick, giddy mate. Sorry mate,

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Speaker 2: it's just a case of fat fingers at my end.

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Speaker 4: How keen. Are you to bring State of Origin to Aalkland.

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Speaker 10: It would be fantastic. It's something that has talked and

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Speaker 4: How likely do you feel it is that you can

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Speaker 10: Look, there's three things we have to get over. First

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Speaker 10: it's going to be late an Augland on a Wednesday night.

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Speaker 10: To do that, you have to deal with a consented

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Speaker 10: The second issue is the cost, what kind of fee

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Speaker 2: So zero point two and three the cost of getting

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Speaker 10: Well, you've got to get a price where the economics

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Speaker 10: it will go to Perth because they're paying them such

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Speaker 10: big money. We can't do that. It doesn't stack up

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Speaker 4: I see, I see.

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Speaker 2: Do you get the feeling that they want to make

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Speaker 10: I've no doubt the NRL have got a strategy to

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Speaker 10: this being what's using what they call their tent pole event,

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the late kickoff time to match up

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Speaker 4: Can you give us a bit more detail on that.

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Speaker 10: I'm really I'm probably not the right person the sense

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Speaker 10: a lot of constraints around how it's used. We're very

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Speaker 10: But the government has introduced some legislation which allows them

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Speaker 10: make a decision they would allow this event to happen.

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Speaker 2: Would there be any other challenges around I mean nine

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Speaker 10: I think it's you know, it's really irrespective of the

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Speaker 10: fantastic job in building those relationships and working with the

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Speaker 5: You need to.

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Speaker 10: It It is? It is. I mean, I wouldn't be

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Speaker 10: There are things we have to get lined up, as

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Speaker 10: A few of the NRL they have many of options.

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Speaker 10: They don't have to do it.

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Speaker 10: they're all quite big things to line up.

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Speaker 2: How optimistic do you feel on a scale of one

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Speaker 2: don't worry.

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Speaker 13: It's a beautiful day in Aukland today, standing looking out

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Speaker 2: Good man, great to chat to you, mate, Thanks for

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Speaker 2: taking the time, all right, thank you all the best.

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Speaker 4: Nick Hill.

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Speaker 2: There joining us sees the chief executive of Tatucki Auckland Unlimited.

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Speaker 2: That's the economic and cultural agency in the region charged

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Speaker 2: You've heard from Nick Hill. Your chance to react now,

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Speaker 2: Let's say this does come off. Would you head along?

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Speaker 2: There seems to be this idea that the residents would

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I might be I might be way off.

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Speaker 2: EDB twenty nine away from one are your thoughts welcome

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Speaker 2: on state of origin to Auckland, State of origin to

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Speaker 2: it is? Heaps on text here, But if you want

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Speaker 2: If you on textare on origin as a key, we

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Speaker 2: I still think they'd want some money for it, and

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Speaker 4: How are you very good? Bruce.

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Speaker 8: looking at my uh chuck and yeah, listening to the

437
00:24:10,587 --> 00:24:11,107
Speaker 8: best man.

438
00:24:12,667 --> 00:24:15,667
Speaker 2: Well, that's very nice, very niceier Bruce, very nicey. Now

439
00:24:15,667 --> 00:24:17,787
Speaker 2: what do you make the trip down the highway to

440
00:24:17,987 --> 00:24:19,267
Speaker 2: Auckland for state of origin?

441
00:24:19,267 --> 00:24:19,467
Speaker 9: Though?

442
00:24:21,067 --> 00:24:27,107
Speaker 8: What a fulest question, of course, I would Look, I've

443
00:24:27,147 --> 00:24:29,747
Speaker 8: lived in Auckland, I've worked all over the world. I've

444
00:24:29,787 --> 00:24:32,867
Speaker 8: got three world record holders in my family and the

445
00:24:32,947 --> 00:24:38,627
Speaker 8: hardest job and it's proven sharing sheep and yeah, and

446
00:24:38,667 --> 00:24:42,787
Speaker 8: we've all my my son and my grandson's the oldest

447
00:24:42,787 --> 00:24:44,667
Speaker 8: ones of all traveled around the world. I've got one

448
00:24:44,707 --> 00:24:49,107
Speaker 8: and literally at the moment in Rome. So we love everything,

449
00:24:49,267 --> 00:24:55,707
Speaker 8: for everything, and not just sport. But they're in Western

450
00:24:55,747 --> 00:24:58,827
Speaker 8: Australia now where they're making some money and living there.

451
00:24:59,507 --> 00:25:01,307
Speaker 8: But they all came back to take a wady for

452
00:25:01,347 --> 00:25:06,347
Speaker 8: the for their awards at the New Zealand Cheering Chair,

453
00:25:06,427 --> 00:25:10,067
Speaker 8: which was to help just start. But yeah, getting back

454
00:25:10,107 --> 00:25:13,947
Speaker 8: to the NRL. Well, I love all sports, but I

455
00:25:13,987 --> 00:25:19,227
Speaker 8: love rugby and league and that's what everything really. It's

456
00:25:19,267 --> 00:25:23,347
Speaker 8: a no brainer because the world has changed and I

457
00:25:23,347 --> 00:25:27,787
Speaker 8: don't care if they you know, if it goes on

458
00:25:27,867 --> 00:25:30,987
Speaker 8: till two o'clock in the morning. We've got to grow up.

459
00:25:31,027 --> 00:25:33,707
Speaker 8: We had rock concerts. I've been the premier rock concerts

460
00:25:33,707 --> 00:25:38,067
Speaker 8: at Eton Park and around the world. You know this

461
00:25:38,347 --> 00:25:43,027
Speaker 8: twenty twenty four and it's a no brainer for me. Yeah,

462
00:25:43,347 --> 00:25:44,547
Speaker 8: totally supported Jason.

463
00:25:44,947 --> 00:25:47,467
Speaker 2: Good on you, Bruce, Good to get your thoughts mate. Yeah,

464
00:25:47,467 --> 00:25:50,307
Speaker 2: and I know your family is very prominent in the

465
00:25:50,827 --> 00:25:53,227
Speaker 2: in the sport of sharing. Great to hear from your mate.

466
00:25:53,427 --> 00:25:55,067
Speaker 2: Enjoy the rest of your afternoon. Good to know that

467
00:25:55,107 --> 00:25:57,787
Speaker 2: you'd be down the down the highway. I don't know

468
00:25:57,787 --> 00:25:58,947
Speaker 2: whether you'd go back afterwards.

469
00:25:58,947 --> 00:26:00,947
Speaker 4: Maybe you would. What would you? I mean if the.

470
00:26:00,907 --> 00:26:04,147
Speaker 2: Game was kicking off at ten, what time would finished? Midnight?

471
00:26:04,947 --> 00:26:07,387
Speaker 2: Time you got out there on the road. Yeah, I mean,

472
00:26:07,587 --> 00:26:10,347
Speaker 2: as long as you could get Thursday off work, it'll

473
00:26:10,387 --> 00:26:10,867
Speaker 2: be fine.

474
00:26:10,667 --> 00:26:11,187
Speaker 4: Wouldn't it.

475
00:26:11,387 --> 00:26:14,467
Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Good Afternoonry. The

476
00:26:14,507 --> 00:26:17,267
Speaker 2: bringing of the state of Origin to Auckland a load

477
00:26:17,307 --> 00:26:20,507
Speaker 2: of rubbish. Until it's self funds, it will cost more

478
00:26:20,507 --> 00:26:23,787
Speaker 2: to put it on than revenue brought in no government funding,

479
00:26:23,827 --> 00:26:26,027
Speaker 2: given we have other far more important things for the

480
00:26:26,027 --> 00:26:28,187
Speaker 2: government to spend their money on you. And that's always

481
00:26:28,267 --> 00:26:30,707
Speaker 2: the way, isn't it, Not just with central government but

482
00:26:30,747 --> 00:26:34,027
Speaker 2: local government. There's always a thousand things you can spend

483
00:26:34,027 --> 00:26:38,107
Speaker 2: money on. And Nick Hill is in charge of, you know,

484
00:26:38,267 --> 00:26:42,627
Speaker 2: bringing events to Auckland. It's one of his main KPIs

485
00:26:43,867 --> 00:26:47,387
Speaker 2: and so he will obviously be asking for money that

486
00:26:47,467 --> 00:26:49,707
Speaker 2: could be spent on other things. And there's always going

487
00:26:49,787 --> 00:26:52,307
Speaker 2: to be that tension around whether you want to bring

488
00:26:52,387 --> 00:26:54,187
Speaker 2: a State of Origin game to Auckland, who want to

489
00:26:54,227 --> 00:26:57,947
Speaker 2: have better footpaths, But at some point you've got to say, look,

490
00:26:57,947 --> 00:27:01,827
Speaker 2: events are an important part of any big city in

491
00:27:01,867 --> 00:27:05,707
Speaker 2: the world. My personal view is I would love to

492
00:27:05,707 --> 00:27:08,787
Speaker 2: have State of Origin in Auckland. Aside from the fact

493
00:27:08,827 --> 00:27:10,507
Speaker 2: that yes, it's two teams that I don't really have

494
00:27:10,547 --> 00:27:13,067
Speaker 2: any skin in the game on, we seem to all

495
00:27:13,147 --> 00:27:15,427
Speaker 2: have a State of Origin side. Whenever Start of Origin

496
00:27:15,507 --> 00:27:17,347
Speaker 2: rolls around, one of you know, one of the two

497
00:27:17,427 --> 00:27:22,107
Speaker 2: sides is our side. A lot of people are, you know, blues.

498
00:27:22,227 --> 00:27:25,747
Speaker 2: A lot of people are cockroaches. That's just the way

499
00:27:25,787 --> 00:27:30,147
Speaker 2: that it is. Maroons and cockroaches. Sorry, Blues and cockroach

500
00:27:30,187 --> 00:27:30,627
Speaker 2: the same thing.

501
00:27:31,147 --> 00:27:31,747
Speaker 9: But you know what I mean.

502
00:27:31,747 --> 00:27:34,987
Speaker 2: We always pick one side, don't we. And so I

503
00:27:35,027 --> 00:27:37,067
Speaker 2: think that, look, it would sell out, There's no question

504
00:27:37,067 --> 00:27:39,627
Speaker 2: it would sell out. It's just all the logistics around

505
00:27:39,627 --> 00:27:41,187
Speaker 2: it would have to be thought about.

506
00:27:42,227 --> 00:27:46,107
Speaker 14: You're a fan of it, Phil, I've kind of wish

507
00:27:46,147 --> 00:27:50,427
Speaker 14: and I didn't go after Bruce now because no, no way.

508
00:27:50,947 --> 00:27:53,467
Speaker 14: I love Origin. Yeah, I'm a fan of the Origin

509
00:27:53,547 --> 00:27:56,027
Speaker 14: and I'm a Blue. I'm a long suffering Blues man

510
00:27:56,067 --> 00:27:59,987
Speaker 14: that tears me here out after each game when we're

511
00:27:59,987 --> 00:28:05,627
Speaker 14: beaten by the Maroons the cockroaches. But I I don't

512
00:28:05,667 --> 00:28:08,187
Speaker 14: think it would work because I think State of Origin

513
00:28:08,267 --> 00:28:11,387
Speaker 14: is kind of exclusively an Aussie thing, not that you

514
00:28:11,427 --> 00:28:14,067
Speaker 14: can't enjoy it wherever you're in the world, but I

515
00:28:14,067 --> 00:28:17,547
Speaker 14: think it's essentially a naussy thing and I probably I

516
00:28:17,587 --> 00:28:19,667
Speaker 14: probably wouldn't go to Auckland to watch a State of

517
00:28:19,667 --> 00:28:23,227
Speaker 14: Origin game, but I'd go over to Australia to watch

518
00:28:23,227 --> 00:28:26,827
Speaker 14: an Origin game because I think the whole atmosphere that's

519
00:28:26,867 --> 00:28:30,267
Speaker 14: all part of the atmosphere's created in Australia. You know, boy,

520
00:28:31,027 --> 00:28:35,627
Speaker 14: the two Ossie teams and the two Ozsi sides, just

521
00:28:35,707 --> 00:28:37,427
Speaker 14: catching my breath. To your point, he trying to get

522
00:28:37,427 --> 00:28:37,787
Speaker 14: it all in.

523
00:28:38,227 --> 00:28:40,787
Speaker 4: You're fine, don't rush film, don't.

524
00:28:40,667 --> 00:28:45,547
Speaker 14: Rush, okay, thank you. And the other thing too is

525
00:28:45,627 --> 00:28:49,587
Speaker 14: I think logistically I don't think it would work either.

526
00:28:50,467 --> 00:28:52,827
Speaker 14: I had to see gage people that ring up and see.

527
00:28:52,907 --> 00:28:55,707
Speaker 14: But I think you know, on a Wednesday night, if

528
00:28:55,707 --> 00:28:57,667
Speaker 14: you're going to hold it on the same night that

529
00:28:57,707 --> 00:29:00,827
Speaker 14: they hold it an a Wednesday night during the week

530
00:29:00,947 --> 00:29:06,227
Speaker 14: nine thirty ten o'clock game in Auckland, people got work next.

531
00:29:06,707 --> 00:29:09,187
Speaker 14: You've got the logistics getting to and through the game

532
00:29:09,267 --> 00:29:12,667
Speaker 14: and back again back home, and the bars being open

533
00:29:12,747 --> 00:29:15,907
Speaker 14: and things. I don't know how how well they would

534
00:29:15,947 --> 00:29:17,947
Speaker 14: benefit because I don't know how long people would stay

535
00:29:17,947 --> 00:29:20,267
Speaker 14: in the city. You know, if they they don't have

536
00:29:20,307 --> 00:29:21,667
Speaker 14: to go to work the next day.

537
00:29:21,507 --> 00:29:23,987
Speaker 2: So it'll be a pre game. It'll be a pre

538
00:29:24,027 --> 00:29:25,947
Speaker 2: game thing, wouldn't if I don't think anyone would stay

539
00:29:25,987 --> 00:29:28,747
Speaker 2: open afterwards. I don't know whether it would there whether

540
00:29:28,747 --> 00:29:30,427
Speaker 2: it be a market for that, but I think certainly

541
00:29:31,027 --> 00:29:33,827
Speaker 2: be there'd be opportunity for restaurants, for example, to say, right,

542
00:29:33,827 --> 00:29:36,147
Speaker 2: come and have your pre game dinner with us, because

543
00:29:36,147 --> 00:29:39,187
Speaker 2: you could you could be there until what nine nine

544
00:29:39,347 --> 00:29:42,907
Speaker 2: thirty or maybe let's say nine o'clock and you know,

545
00:29:43,027 --> 00:29:44,467
Speaker 2: have your dinner and then get and then go to

546
00:29:44,507 --> 00:29:46,667
Speaker 2: the game. I think that's the way that that hospitality

547
00:29:46,707 --> 00:29:49,147
Speaker 2: would would try and benefit from it. Yeah, I can't

548
00:29:49,187 --> 00:29:51,187
Speaker 2: imagine that too many. I suppose a couple would would

549
00:29:51,187 --> 00:29:53,547
Speaker 2: stay open afterwards for the after crowd, having if they've

550
00:29:53,547 --> 00:29:54,987
Speaker 2: been on it for about twelve hours.

551
00:29:54,987 --> 00:29:55,707
Speaker 4: By that stuff.

552
00:29:56,627 --> 00:30:02,107
Speaker 14: It's a few hardcore as, yeah, because it's not it's

553
00:30:02,187 --> 00:30:06,987
Speaker 14: not so much that the idea of it. I just

554
00:30:07,147 --> 00:30:11,027
Speaker 14: think and practical terms that it probably wouldn't come off.

555
00:30:11,067 --> 00:30:12,547
Speaker 14: If that makes sense, you know.

556
00:30:13,987 --> 00:30:18,427
Speaker 2: It does make sense, Yeah, if the practicalities are challenging, Phil,

557
00:30:18,467 --> 00:30:21,867
Speaker 2: You're right, the practicalities are challenging. As you've outlined, it's

558
00:30:21,907 --> 00:30:23,707
Speaker 2: not the way we're used to watching sport. We're used

559
00:30:23,707 --> 00:30:27,307
Speaker 2: to watching sports seven o'clock on a Saturday or thereabouts. Yeah,

560
00:30:27,427 --> 00:30:29,987
Speaker 2: ten o'clock, which is what it would be. You've watched

561
00:30:29,987 --> 00:30:31,707
Speaker 2: oriage and it just takes ages to get to kick off.

562
00:30:31,747 --> 00:30:34,707
Speaker 2: Once they get through all the pageantry etc. Ten o'clock

563
00:30:34,707 --> 00:30:37,467
Speaker 2: on a Wednesday night to go to a game. I

564
00:30:37,547 --> 00:30:39,347
Speaker 2: said that, you know, I thought that it would sell out.

565
00:30:39,787 --> 00:30:42,427
Speaker 2: That would be probably the main obstacle to it if

566
00:30:42,467 --> 00:30:44,387
Speaker 2: it was a Sunday afternoon. And I've heard this mooted

567
00:30:44,427 --> 00:30:45,987
Speaker 2: that they might try and change it to a Sunday.

568
00:30:46,067 --> 00:30:47,547
Speaker 2: There's no way the NR is going to change the

569
00:30:47,587 --> 00:30:49,827
Speaker 2: night of state of Origin. It's a Wednesday night thing.

570
00:30:49,867 --> 00:30:52,267
Speaker 2: They're not changing that. And like Nick Hill said, they

571
00:30:52,267 --> 00:30:55,307
Speaker 2: don't need Auckland. They've got any number of cities in

572
00:30:55,307 --> 00:30:57,987
Speaker 2: Australia who would love to have state of Origin. Every

573
00:30:58,107 --> 00:31:01,627
Speaker 2: year they share it around. There's always one in New

574
00:31:01,667 --> 00:31:04,747
Speaker 2: South Wales, there's always one in Queensland, so Sydney and Brisbane,

575
00:31:05,347 --> 00:31:07,707
Speaker 2: and the third one gets shopped around. They don't have

576
00:31:07,787 --> 00:31:10,867
Speaker 2: to come to New Zealand. So they're not going to

577
00:31:10,947 --> 00:31:15,507
Speaker 2: change the night of the game. It's staying on a Wednesday.

578
00:31:16,227 --> 00:31:17,907
Speaker 2: Thanks for your call, Phil, Always good to chat to you.

579
00:31:17,987 --> 00:31:18,387
Speaker 9: Mate.

580
00:31:18,667 --> 00:31:20,867
Speaker 2: Too late for me, says this one. I wouldn't be

581
00:31:20,867 --> 00:31:23,747
Speaker 2: home until one am. Mark says, I definitely go to

582
00:31:23,787 --> 00:31:26,187
Speaker 2: origin here in New Zealand. I love my rugby league origins.

583
00:31:26,187 --> 00:31:27,867
Speaker 2: The main game of the year for me, Thanks Mark,

584
00:31:28,107 --> 00:31:29,827
Speaker 2: Joe say a state of Origin and New Zealand bring

585
00:31:29,827 --> 00:31:31,827
Speaker 2: it on, be a sellout and so good for us

586
00:31:32,387 --> 00:31:34,467
Speaker 2: from Joe, Hey pineum all for an origin game here

587
00:31:34,507 --> 00:31:36,627
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. There be no question about the venue

588
00:31:36,787 --> 00:31:39,307
Speaker 2: if there was a new stadium downtown though not Eden Park.

589
00:31:40,227 --> 00:31:41,867
Speaker 2: But if it has to be there, so be it.

590
00:31:42,307 --> 00:31:45,267
Speaker 2: But just another reason to have a modern facility when

591
00:31:45,307 --> 00:31:46,947
Speaker 2: major sports can be showcased.

592
00:31:47,747 --> 00:31:47,947
Speaker 4: Pine.

593
00:31:48,027 --> 00:31:50,187
Speaker 2: I don't think a state of Origin would be subscribed

594
00:31:50,747 --> 00:31:53,747
Speaker 2: as keywis. We don't identify with New South Wales necessarily

595
00:31:53,907 --> 00:31:56,827
Speaker 2: or Queensland. It's also not our national game, thank you, Steve.

596
00:31:57,987 --> 00:32:01,307
Speaker 2: State of Origin is an Australian state competition for Australians.

597
00:32:01,827 --> 00:32:05,307
Speaker 2: As for the NRL being something New Zealanders get behind,

598
00:32:05,347 --> 00:32:10,507
Speaker 2: that's nonsense. Okay, Well I tend to disagree. If the

599
00:32:10,627 --> 00:32:12,147
Speaker 2: NR I want to promote the game, I should pay

600
00:32:12,147 --> 00:32:14,947
Speaker 2: the total amount of stage it, says Stephen. Again, Stephen,

601
00:32:15,227 --> 00:32:17,827
Speaker 2: they don't need to. They've got any number of places

602
00:32:17,867 --> 00:32:20,627
Speaker 2: willing to pay to have Origin in their backyard.

603
00:32:21,987 --> 00:32:23,307
Speaker 4: Would you go to a Paul.

604
00:32:25,427 --> 00:32:27,387
Speaker 12: Most definitely a go to. I mean I'm first and foremost,

605
00:32:27,427 --> 00:32:31,667
Speaker 12: I'm a regular league fan, but I'm not a fan

606
00:32:31,747 --> 00:32:34,627
Speaker 12: of the state of rogen at the moment the way

607
00:32:34,667 --> 00:32:38,827
Speaker 12: it's played where it used to be basically a Kangaroos player,

608
00:32:39,187 --> 00:32:41,547
Speaker 12: only elevople from the Kangaroos, but now it's just become

609
00:32:41,547 --> 00:32:43,867
Speaker 12: a free for all. But that's a side issue. But

610
00:32:45,027 --> 00:32:47,067
Speaker 12: it's really fantastic and I've got no doubt like yourself,

611
00:32:47,067 --> 00:32:49,867
Speaker 12: it will be sold out to some NUL defector I own.

612
00:32:49,947 --> 00:32:51,587
Speaker 12: You know, I know there's a new worries by going

613
00:32:51,627 --> 00:32:54,907
Speaker 12: up in Kingsland. I think it's October. It's gonna awah

614
00:32:55,027 --> 00:32:57,787
Speaker 12: bar whatever whatever it is. So you can imagine, you

615
00:32:57,827 --> 00:33:00,827
Speaker 12: know this this current mayor. You know, we need to

616
00:33:00,827 --> 00:33:04,067
Speaker 12: be forward thinking, like hard Oval in Sydney. The Prime

617
00:33:04,107 --> 00:33:08,107
Speaker 12: Minister's just forty million dollars into lighthardover because it has

618
00:33:08,227 --> 00:33:11,827
Speaker 12: a historic sentimental value to that area. And it's not

619
00:33:11,987 --> 00:33:14,667
Speaker 12: the rugby league park. It's for soccer, it's for other sports.

620
00:33:15,147 --> 00:33:18,987
Speaker 12: So they are forward thinking. You know that the government

621
00:33:19,067 --> 00:33:20,947
Speaker 12: in Australia when it comes to sports, you know they

622
00:33:20,987 --> 00:33:24,227
Speaker 12: fund it in these parks. But here we find ways

623
00:33:24,227 --> 00:33:26,507
Speaker 12: to sort of put up road box and put road

624
00:33:26,587 --> 00:33:29,267
Speaker 12: cones out and red tape. It's ridiculous.

625
00:33:30,467 --> 00:33:33,907
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't seem conduci if necessarily Paul does it

626
00:33:34,027 --> 00:33:39,667
Speaker 2: to to to welcoming something with open arms, there do

627
00:33:39,747 --> 00:33:43,107
Speaker 2: tend to be a lot of obstacles placed in the way.

628
00:33:43,627 --> 00:33:44,587
Speaker 4: I totally agree.

629
00:33:45,467 --> 00:33:47,507
Speaker 2: Be nice if those obstacles were cleared away and we

630
00:33:47,547 --> 00:33:50,747
Speaker 2: could just see our way clear too. Welcoming something with

631
00:33:50,867 --> 00:33:54,867
Speaker 2: huge economic benefits and bucket list benefits, if that's even

632
00:33:54,867 --> 00:33:57,507
Speaker 2: a thing for New Zealanders, I know you'd be there, Paul,

633
00:33:57,507 --> 00:34:00,707
Speaker 2: I would too. Twelve forty three on New Stalks, they'd

634
00:34:00,707 --> 00:34:02,107
Speaker 2: be We're back in a moment. We'll flick across to

635
00:34:02,147 --> 00:34:05,147
Speaker 2: the Blues. They'll be in pretty pretty good heart. After

636
00:34:05,147 --> 00:34:07,587
Speaker 2: their win last night, Paul tipped to assistant coach with

637
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Speaker 2: us right after this.

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Speaker 2: Last night, assistant coach Paul Tito.

645
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Speaker 8: Is with us.

646
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Speaker 4: Yes, sleep okay? After that last night, Paul.

647
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Speaker 15: To be honest, it didn't you know. I mean it

648
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Speaker 15: was one of those ones you but get up for

649
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Speaker 15: the game and couldn't.

650
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Speaker 9: Get back to sleep afterwards.

651
00:34:40,347 --> 00:34:41,267
Speaker 15: Should have another wine.

652
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Speaker 2: Well, that always tends to help anything, in particular the

653
00:34:45,427 --> 00:34:47,467
Speaker 2: head you're tossing and turning or I mean, you must.

654
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Speaker 4: Be pretty pleased. It always felt like you were in

655
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Speaker 4: control or did it not?

656
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Speaker 10: Yeah?

657
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Speaker 15: I think you know, we had, like you said, we

658
00:34:55,107 --> 00:34:58,747
Speaker 15: had twenty five minutes of really good stuff and then

659
00:34:58,787 --> 00:35:00,347
Speaker 15: you know, we let the foot off the throat there

660
00:35:00,347 --> 00:35:06,147
Speaker 15: for fifteen minutes and didn't allow them back in the game.

661
00:35:06,467 --> 00:35:08,227
Speaker 15: We just didn't take a hold of the game like

662
00:35:08,347 --> 00:35:11,187
Speaker 15: we had been doing. So, you know, there's always stuff

663
00:35:11,227 --> 00:35:13,867
Speaker 15: to work on as a team and as a coaching group.

664
00:35:13,867 --> 00:35:16,467
Speaker 15: Were always trying to get better. So we just got

665
00:35:16,507 --> 00:35:20,467
Speaker 15: to be better in those moments and not give teams,

666
00:35:21,027 --> 00:35:22,867
Speaker 15: you know, that down period that we haven't given the

667
00:35:23,067 --> 00:35:23,907
Speaker 15: team's opportunity.

668
00:35:24,747 --> 00:35:27,747
Speaker 4: Is that something that you were concerned about going in.

669
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Speaker 2: Had you talked about, you know, periods of games where

670
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Speaker 2: perhaps you hadn't been quite at optimum levels.

671
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Speaker 15: Well, I think that's the nature of the game, you know,

672
00:35:37,987 --> 00:35:39,987
Speaker 15: like you don't have it all your own way all

673
00:35:40,027 --> 00:35:44,067
Speaker 15: the time, So it's your ability to take control when

674
00:35:44,307 --> 00:35:47,787
Speaker 15: when you do lose that control. Stacking good moments on

675
00:35:47,827 --> 00:35:51,027
Speaker 15: good moments is obviously the ideal, and then the reverse

676
00:35:51,067 --> 00:35:54,387
Speaker 15: of that is obviously bad moments on bad moments on

677
00:35:54,467 --> 00:35:57,427
Speaker 15: bad moments. So that's the thing that that's the cycle

678
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Speaker 15: you want to get out of. So yeah, I'm sure

679
00:36:00,067 --> 00:36:02,987
Speaker 15: it's something that we'll touch on this week and how

680
00:36:03,027 --> 00:36:04,827
Speaker 15: that looks for the final.

681
00:36:05,387 --> 00:36:08,747
Speaker 2: The Blues Blue printer is very obvious and has been

682
00:36:08,947 --> 00:36:12,827
Speaker 2: really successful a brutal forwards based game plan. How have

683
00:36:12,867 --> 00:36:15,027
Speaker 2: you and the other coach has gone about imprinting that

684
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Speaker 2: and maintaining it?

685
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Speaker 15: Yeah, I think you know, I mean like we've we've

686
00:36:22,467 --> 00:36:25,627
Speaker 15: played this way since the start of the season. You

687
00:36:25,747 --> 00:36:29,067
Speaker 15: look back to the Crusaders and when they've won you know,

688
00:36:29,147 --> 00:36:33,267
Speaker 15: their titles throughout the past years. You know, they most

689
00:36:33,267 --> 00:36:37,187
Speaker 15: really play quite expensive rugby in March February when when

690
00:36:37,227 --> 00:36:40,707
Speaker 15: the weather is good and by the time final footy comes,

691
00:36:40,747 --> 00:36:43,827
Speaker 15: you know they're they're closing up and squeezing things up

692
00:36:43,867 --> 00:36:47,067
Speaker 15: a bit and go back to their set piece. And

693
00:36:48,027 --> 00:36:51,867
Speaker 15: so I think that's the key to winning titles is

694
00:36:52,107 --> 00:36:56,027
Speaker 15: have a dominant set piece and been being nice and

695
00:36:56,067 --> 00:37:00,267
Speaker 15: accurate in the breakdown. So yeah, hey, we've implemented it

696
00:37:00,267 --> 00:37:04,387
Speaker 15: well throughout the year in various different ways and it's

697
00:37:04,427 --> 00:37:08,667
Speaker 15: been a real strength of ours. So yeah, how much.

698
00:37:08,547 --> 00:37:10,467
Speaker 2: Does it help Paul as well that it's actually working

699
00:37:10,507 --> 00:37:13,067
Speaker 2: when you have to reinforce these messages week after week.

700
00:37:13,627 --> 00:37:16,347
Speaker 2: How much does it help that actually what you're asking

701
00:37:16,347 --> 00:37:18,147
Speaker 2: the players to do is actually working for you.

702
00:37:19,947 --> 00:37:21,747
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's critical as a coach, isn't it. You know,

703
00:37:23,067 --> 00:37:25,547
Speaker 15: you've got a plan, you know, you have the players

704
00:37:26,107 --> 00:37:29,227
Speaker 15: to implement that plan is the key, and you've got

705
00:37:29,227 --> 00:37:31,547
Speaker 15: there buy And I think that's all we've had from

706
00:37:31,547 --> 00:37:36,227
Speaker 15: the group this year, especially the leaders. You know, they

707
00:37:36,347 --> 00:37:39,107
Speaker 15: really lead from the front and and really grabbed the

708
00:37:39,107 --> 00:37:42,267
Speaker 15: bull by the horns and taking us forward and you

709
00:37:42,307 --> 00:37:45,827
Speaker 15: know it's it's basic footy done really well and they're

710
00:37:45,827 --> 00:37:46,827
Speaker 15: really lead in that space.

711
00:37:47,347 --> 00:37:49,347
Speaker 2: Every campaign, of course, has it setbacks, and you talk

712
00:37:49,387 --> 00:37:51,667
Speaker 2: about your leaders, how have you dealt internally with the

713
00:37:51,707 --> 00:37:54,067
Speaker 2: loss of your captain Patrick tweep a lot two.

714
00:37:55,987 --> 00:37:59,427
Speaker 15: Yeah, he's a big loss, p He's a legend guy

715
00:37:59,507 --> 00:38:04,027
Speaker 15: and holds the group really well. But even this week.

716
00:38:04,067 --> 00:38:05,467
Speaker 15: You know, I used them a couple of times and

717
00:38:05,587 --> 00:38:09,347
Speaker 15: meetings and just keeping involved because he does hold that

718
00:38:09,427 --> 00:38:12,027
Speaker 15: money within the group. So you know, here we are

719
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Speaker 15: around this week Ton to make sure we're in the

720
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Speaker 15: right direction.

721
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Speaker 2: And Dalton Papa that he failed in Hia last night.

722
00:38:19,107 --> 00:38:22,027
Speaker 2: I heard some narrative afterwards that he was more just

723
00:38:22,067 --> 00:38:24,027
Speaker 2: forgetting a couple of things, which he might have done

724
00:38:24,187 --> 00:38:26,387
Speaker 2: under any circumstances, any fears that he'll be out for

725
00:38:26,547 --> 00:38:27,347
Speaker 2: the final Dolts.

726
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Speaker 15: Yeah, I'll leave that to the people that get paid

727
00:38:31,227 --> 00:38:32,787
Speaker 15: the big money. You know, I've got a job to

728
00:38:32,827 --> 00:38:35,787
Speaker 15: do and I'll leave the mid staff to saw that one.

729
00:38:35,827 --> 00:38:38,267
Speaker 15: I don't really need to be piping up with that.

730
00:38:38,787 --> 00:38:39,827
Speaker 4: Fair enough, fair enough.

731
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Speaker 2: Hoskins stutu last night, another try for him. That's the

732
00:38:44,267 --> 00:38:46,707
Speaker 2: equal most tries in a season for a Blues player

733
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Speaker 2: and the equal most by any forward in a Super

734
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Speaker 2: Rugby season. Are these the sorts of things that are

735
00:38:52,227 --> 00:38:54,867
Speaker 2: celebrated or are they more a byproduct of performance?

736
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Speaker 10: Yeah?

737
00:38:56,307 --> 00:38:59,267
Speaker 15: I think you know, we celebrate as a team, you know,

738
00:38:59,387 --> 00:39:03,667
Speaker 15: little milestones like this. But you know, hoss has played

739
00:39:03,667 --> 00:39:06,947
Speaker 15: well all year. You know, he's last year where he

740
00:39:07,027 --> 00:39:10,267
Speaker 15: was good at the start and most surely Hit had

741
00:39:10,267 --> 00:39:11,627
Speaker 15: a bit of a blip there for a bit and

742
00:39:12,427 --> 00:39:14,467
Speaker 15: didn't get selected in the World Cup squad. So he's

743
00:39:14,467 --> 00:39:17,267
Speaker 15: had a real point to prove this year. He's been

744
00:39:17,307 --> 00:39:22,627
Speaker 15: consistent for me, he's he's carried really well and you know,

745
00:39:22,667 --> 00:39:24,307
Speaker 15: he's got a great skill set to get the bat

746
00:39:24,307 --> 00:39:26,027
Speaker 15: of space and we saw that again last night.

747
00:39:26,787 --> 00:39:29,227
Speaker 2: Do you talk to players like Hoskins and others about

748
00:39:29,507 --> 00:39:33,587
Speaker 2: about higher honors and use that as a carrot or not?

749
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Speaker 15: Not really? You know, we're we're just all about us

750
00:39:35,987 --> 00:39:39,507
Speaker 15: and performing well. And I think there's a good old

751
00:39:39,587 --> 00:39:41,947
Speaker 15: saying if you perform well as a team, they normally

752
00:39:42,187 --> 00:39:45,947
Speaker 15: you do well as individuals. So you know, so if

753
00:39:45,987 --> 00:39:48,187
Speaker 15: you go along deep in this competition and there's a

754
00:39:48,227 --> 00:39:50,467
Speaker 15: couple of you know what I said late in the

755
00:39:50,627 --> 00:39:54,067
Speaker 15: in the in the selection process and what that looks like,

756
00:39:54,227 --> 00:39:56,907
Speaker 15: then you normally get the nod because you're playing and

757
00:39:56,987 --> 00:39:59,347
Speaker 15: you'd going deep in the comp What.

758
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Speaker 2: Did you think of Tofa Funaki's little backwards chip kick?

759
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Speaker 15: It was an interesting time in the box.

760
00:40:06,107 --> 00:40:08,867
Speaker 4: Then I saw the We all saw it, man, we

761
00:40:08,907 --> 00:40:09,627
Speaker 4: all saw it.

762
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Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the three of us look quite calm. Actually, yeah,

763
00:40:15,147 --> 00:40:19,187
Speaker 15: it was an interesting one. But hey, I am I

764
00:40:19,187 --> 00:40:20,947
Speaker 15: would just worry about getting the ball to the back.

765
00:40:20,987 --> 00:40:22,267
Speaker 15: So we have too much saying.

766
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Speaker 4: That good stuff.

767
00:40:23,107 --> 00:40:26,427
Speaker 2: And now you can sit back and and watch these

768
00:40:26,467 --> 00:40:29,427
Speaker 2: other two teams beat each other other up this afternoon.

769
00:40:29,467 --> 00:40:31,867
Speaker 2: I know you started your Super Rugby career at the Chiefs,

770
00:40:31,867 --> 00:40:35,187
Speaker 2: but surely the the eighth season Hurricanes player and you

771
00:40:35,787 --> 00:40:37,907
Speaker 2: wants the Canes to win this afternoon, even if it

772
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Speaker 2: means you won't get a home final.

773
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's tough.

774
00:40:41,347 --> 00:40:44,387
Speaker 15: A it's tough. Obviously. I've had a lot to do

775
00:40:44,467 --> 00:40:47,347
Speaker 15: with both of the franchises being involved with to heal

776
00:40:47,427 --> 00:40:49,467
Speaker 15: in my coaching days and coach a lot of those

777
00:40:49,507 --> 00:40:52,227
Speaker 15: guys that are in the Chiefs team. So but how

778
00:40:52,267 --> 00:40:53,587
Speaker 15: are you going to put I think you're got to

779
00:40:53,627 --> 00:40:58,067
Speaker 15: be selfish, you know. I think for us as a

780
00:40:58,067 --> 00:41:02,187
Speaker 15: Blues organization would be great if that's the Chiefs got

781
00:41:02,267 --> 00:41:04,507
Speaker 15: up for us, you know, so we can so we

782
00:41:04,507 --> 00:41:06,987
Speaker 15: can play at home. And it's a mess as amateur.

783
00:41:07,427 --> 00:41:09,907
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's natural, natural to feel that way. Hey Paul,

784
00:41:09,907 --> 00:41:12,107
Speaker 2: thanks mate, Hope you have a relaxing weekend. All the

785
00:41:12,147 --> 00:41:14,107
Speaker 2: best for the week ahead. It's an exciting time for

786
00:41:14,147 --> 00:41:16,507
Speaker 2: the franchise and for its coaching staff. Thanks for taking

787
00:41:16,507 --> 00:41:18,467
Speaker 2: the time for a chat mate day.

788
00:41:18,547 --> 00:41:20,267
Speaker 4: Thank you, no, thank you, Paul.

789
00:41:19,947 --> 00:41:21,427
Speaker 2: Tito There from the Blues six and a half to

790
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Speaker 2: one News Talks EDB three to one News TALKSB after

791
00:41:23,747 --> 00:41:27,187
Speaker 2: one o'clock Super Rugby Semi Final two Hurricanes v Chiefs

792
00:41:27,187 --> 00:41:29,947
Speaker 2: this afternoon Canes lose Forward duplasy cadif you with us

793
00:41:30,267 --> 00:41:33,387
Speaker 2: and chief swinger at Tenny Nanaosatuto as well.

794
00:41:35,107 --> 00:41:37,947
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

795
00:41:38,427 --> 00:41:41,747
Speaker 1: and after fields. It's all on WI Jons Forward with

796
00:41:41,987 --> 00:41:46,467
Speaker 1: Jason Vane on your home of Sports News Talk.

797
00:41:48,707 --> 00:41:51,187
Speaker 2: Welcome into the show, Well, welcome back, seven past one.

798
00:41:51,227 --> 00:41:54,307
Speaker 2: I'm Jason Fine, Mark Kelly pushing the buttons and producing

799
00:41:54,347 --> 00:41:57,267
Speaker 2: the show this afternoon. We're here till three. A good

800
00:41:57,307 --> 00:42:00,867
Speaker 2: look at this Super Rugby semi final Hurricanes Chiefs this afternoon.

801
00:42:00,947 --> 00:42:03,947
Speaker 2: Shortly we'll get inside both camps for you. But a

802
00:42:04,027 --> 00:42:07,667
Speaker 2: live sport to update you on at the Cricket World Cup.

803
00:42:07,987 --> 00:42:10,947
Speaker 2: The black Caps, I would say, are on top of you. Gander,

804
00:42:11,587 --> 00:42:14,787
Speaker 2: seven overs gone you Gander batting first, are ten for

805
00:42:14,867 --> 00:42:17,667
Speaker 2: the loss of four, ten for the loss of four.

806
00:42:17,867 --> 00:42:20,627
Speaker 2: So this is a lot better from New Zealand. Unfortunately

807
00:42:20,667 --> 00:42:22,827
Speaker 2: a little bit too little, too late as far as

808
00:42:23,307 --> 00:42:25,827
Speaker 2: their progress in this tournament is concerned. But good to

809
00:42:25,827 --> 00:42:27,627
Speaker 2: see them putting the foot on the throat of one

810
00:42:27,707 --> 00:42:31,387
Speaker 2: of world crickets minnows. Yeah, ten for four heading towards

811
00:42:31,427 --> 00:42:35,027
Speaker 2: the end of the seventh over wickets shared around Trent

812
00:42:35,107 --> 00:42:37,547
Speaker 2: Bolt's got a couple one for Saudi and one for

813
00:42:37,667 --> 00:42:38,827
Speaker 2: Santana as well.

814
00:42:38,907 --> 00:42:39,627
Speaker 4: Will keep eyes on.

815
00:42:39,667 --> 00:42:39,987
Speaker 8: That for you.

816
00:42:40,427 --> 00:42:44,347
Speaker 2: And Game four in the NBA Finals Dallas Mavericks looking

817
00:42:44,387 --> 00:42:46,547
Speaker 2: to keep the series alive Boston Celtics with a three

818
00:42:46,667 --> 00:42:50,147
Speaker 2: nil leading the series best of seven. Obviously, the Mavericks

819
00:42:50,187 --> 00:42:52,587
Speaker 2: at cought a time in Game four in Dallas are

820
00:42:52,627 --> 00:42:54,667
Speaker 2: head thirty four to twenty one, so at least making

821
00:42:54,707 --> 00:42:56,267
Speaker 2: a bit of a fist of it to try and

822
00:42:56,587 --> 00:42:59,027
Speaker 2: get themselves on the board. I don't think any team's

823
00:42:59,027 --> 00:43:01,507
Speaker 2: ever come back from three nil down in an NBA

824
00:43:01,587 --> 00:43:04,427
Speaker 2: Finals series to win four to three. But you can

825
00:43:04,507 --> 00:43:07,387
Speaker 2: only take these things one step at a time, can't you.

826
00:43:07,707 --> 00:43:09,587
Speaker 2: We'll keep an eye on that basketball for you. Our

827
00:43:09,627 --> 00:43:12,867
Speaker 2: lines of communication remain open right across the afternoon eight

828
00:43:12,987 --> 00:43:15,707
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten, eighty nine, two ninety two on text,

829
00:43:16,147 --> 00:43:18,507
Speaker 2: or send us an email Jason at Newstalk SDB dot

830
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Speaker 2: co dot NZ. Super Rugby Semi Final Hurricanes v Chiefs

831
00:43:23,227 --> 00:43:26,067
Speaker 2: this afternoon four thirty five. We've got commentary for you

832
00:43:26,187 --> 00:43:30,947
Speaker 2: on Gold Sport and on iHeartRadio from around four twenty

833
00:43:31,547 --> 00:43:35,867
Speaker 2: this afternoon. A standout for the Hurricanes this season, mainly

834
00:43:36,587 --> 00:43:40,707
Speaker 2: recently in an impact role has been loose forward duplasy Cordifee.

835
00:43:40,347 --> 00:43:44,107
Speaker 4: Judd to the right inside kadife is over for the try.

836
00:43:44,667 --> 00:43:45,747
Speaker 4: You cannot keep.

837
00:43:45,667 --> 00:43:47,987
Speaker 2: Him out of the action duplicity Codifi with us on

838
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Speaker 2: game day. Thanksoops for taking the time for a chat.

839
00:43:50,587 --> 00:43:53,307
Speaker 2: Has it been possible to treat this week the same

840
00:43:53,387 --> 00:43:56,827
Speaker 2: as as a regular season week or or are you,

841
00:43:56,947 --> 00:44:00,787
Speaker 2: in fact instead embracing the size of this occasion.

842
00:44:02,267 --> 00:44:04,827
Speaker 16: That's a true, that's a good question. I was thinking

843
00:44:04,867 --> 00:44:10,227
Speaker 16: about us last night and nah, nothing, nothing's really changed

844
00:44:10,267 --> 00:44:13,547
Speaker 16: for us. You know, we don't want we don't want

845
00:44:14,947 --> 00:44:17,067
Speaker 16: the boys to do anything differently than they would have

846
00:44:17,147 --> 00:44:19,947
Speaker 16: than they would have done, you know, last week or

847
00:44:19,947 --> 00:44:21,747
Speaker 16: the week before or at the start of the season.

848
00:44:21,867 --> 00:44:24,947
Speaker 16: So routine has been a really important part of our

849
00:44:25,027 --> 00:44:29,187
Speaker 16: year keeping things the same. You're obviously looking at it

850
00:44:29,307 --> 00:44:35,947
Speaker 16: through a different lens, and there's obviously a different level

851
00:44:35,987 --> 00:44:38,227
Speaker 16: of pressure that comes with being in a semi final

852
00:44:38,307 --> 00:44:40,587
Speaker 16: and went at home and there. But now for the

853
00:44:40,667 --> 00:44:45,947
Speaker 16: most part, we're just treating another like another week off

854
00:44:46,027 --> 00:44:49,427
Speaker 16: the field. On the field, definitely a raising intensity.

855
00:44:49,027 --> 00:44:49,107
Speaker 9: But.

856
00:44:50,587 --> 00:44:53,187
Speaker 16: Like I say, if if we do things too differently

857
00:44:53,827 --> 00:44:57,387
Speaker 16: and we might be from the path. So just trying

858
00:44:57,387 --> 00:45:00,067
Speaker 16: our best to keep things functional and keep things normal

859
00:45:00,147 --> 00:45:03,667
Speaker 16: and relaxed, especially for a younger playing group. We don't

860
00:45:03,667 --> 00:45:04,107
Speaker 16: want them to.

861
00:45:05,547 --> 00:45:07,387
Speaker 5: You know, the load too early.

862
00:45:09,307 --> 00:45:12,667
Speaker 16: So yeah, come, come, feeling and camp at the moment.

863
00:45:13,907 --> 00:45:16,507
Speaker 2: I can't think of a player who has made more

864
00:45:16,627 --> 00:45:19,747
Speaker 2: impact off the bench this season than you have. When

865
00:45:19,787 --> 00:45:24,147
Speaker 2: you've played that role, How do you how do you

866
00:45:24,227 --> 00:45:27,387
Speaker 2: approach that role when when you're handed it at the

867
00:45:27,427 --> 00:45:28,067
Speaker 2: start of the week.

868
00:45:30,627 --> 00:45:34,587
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think as competitors and you know, people who

869
00:45:34,587 --> 00:45:39,507
Speaker 16: are always wanting to put the best forward. The first

870
00:45:39,587 --> 00:45:42,667
Speaker 16: part of being told you're on the bench is actually

871
00:45:42,707 --> 00:45:45,987
Speaker 16: accepting the fact that you're not in the starting group.

872
00:45:46,627 --> 00:45:50,747
Speaker 16: And that's not to say you know, you're not as important,

873
00:45:51,387 --> 00:45:54,427
Speaker 16: but it can be frustrating. So having to deal with

874
00:45:54,507 --> 00:45:56,547
Speaker 16: that has been a massive part of my journey this year,

875
00:45:57,067 --> 00:45:59,627
Speaker 16: as we know. But then once you put your own

876
00:45:59,667 --> 00:46:02,947
Speaker 16: ego aside and you start to look at what you

877
00:46:03,027 --> 00:46:06,187
Speaker 16: can do best for the team, and that's whether you're starting,

878
00:46:06,427 --> 00:46:09,867
Speaker 16: benching or not playing as well. Yeah, you can really

879
00:46:09,907 --> 00:46:11,947
Speaker 16: look to the best out of grad performance and I've

880
00:46:11,987 --> 00:46:16,307
Speaker 16: really enjoyed coming off the bench. I know, for example,

881
00:46:16,347 --> 00:46:19,427
Speaker 16: I'm not going to be getting eighty minutes. I've got

882
00:46:19,467 --> 00:46:23,307
Speaker 16: a shorter period to have a positive impact on the game,

883
00:46:23,387 --> 00:46:25,627
Speaker 16: and that means that, you know, I'll have plenty of

884
00:46:25,707 --> 00:46:29,907
Speaker 16: juice in the tent the whole time. So when I

885
00:46:30,027 --> 00:46:34,587
Speaker 16: come on twenty five thirty five minutes, I know that

886
00:46:34,667 --> 00:46:37,387
Speaker 16: I've got, you know, a short amount of time to

887
00:46:37,507 --> 00:46:41,027
Speaker 16: just absolutely indio and I think that just helps me

888
00:46:41,187 --> 00:46:42,707
Speaker 16: along with being clear on what I'm trying to do,

889
00:46:44,107 --> 00:46:45,987
Speaker 16: you know, have a positive impact on the game and

890
00:46:46,067 --> 00:46:47,907
Speaker 16: have the boys in whatever way I can. But I've

891
00:46:47,947 --> 00:46:53,787
Speaker 16: actually really enjoyed my role this year and sound like

892
00:46:53,867 --> 00:46:56,107
Speaker 16: I've had a lot of fun, to be honest.

893
00:46:57,667 --> 00:47:01,467
Speaker 2: Something else that I've noticed, You've always sailed pretty close

894
00:47:01,507 --> 00:47:03,747
Speaker 2: to the line at the breakdown, sometimes over that line,

895
00:47:04,187 --> 00:47:07,747
Speaker 2: but I don't remember, you get away as many penalties

896
00:47:07,787 --> 00:47:09,187
Speaker 2: this season as previously.

897
00:47:09,307 --> 00:47:11,507
Speaker 4: Have you changed your approach slightly in.

898
00:47:11,547 --> 00:47:14,427
Speaker 5: That in that area, yeah, I have.

899
00:47:15,987 --> 00:47:20,347
Speaker 16: I think last year, the last two seasons, I you know,

900
00:47:20,987 --> 00:47:24,907
Speaker 16: didn't give away nearly as many penalties as my first

901
00:47:24,947 --> 00:47:26,907
Speaker 16: couple of seasons. But this year, I think I've only

902
00:47:26,947 --> 00:47:32,547
Speaker 16: given away you know, three or four at the breakdown

903
00:47:32,667 --> 00:47:37,027
Speaker 16: all year. So yeah, I have changed our approach. I

904
00:47:37,067 --> 00:47:39,267
Speaker 16: think it comes with maturity, Binsy. I think it just

905
00:47:39,347 --> 00:47:42,547
Speaker 16: comes from seeing the pictures a bit better than I

906
00:47:42,667 --> 00:47:44,867
Speaker 16: used to when I when I was when I was

907
00:47:44,867 --> 00:47:46,987
Speaker 16: a younger man, I was just like a bull in

908
00:47:47,027 --> 00:47:50,147
Speaker 16: a china shop. And I think my ego, I think

909
00:47:50,187 --> 00:47:51,747
Speaker 16: my ego got in the way a little bit. I

910
00:47:51,907 --> 00:47:54,227
Speaker 16: just looked at everything and thought, yeah, I can get there.

911
00:47:54,867 --> 00:47:57,267
Speaker 16: And you know, at times, as we know, that was

912
00:47:57,587 --> 00:48:01,227
Speaker 16: mine my teams the mind. So nah, just yeah, I

913
00:48:01,307 --> 00:48:03,467
Speaker 16: see the pittures clearly down and we've got great coaches

914
00:48:03,507 --> 00:48:05,667
Speaker 16: that have helped me out along the way. And you know,

915
00:48:05,787 --> 00:48:09,427
Speaker 16: Corey j and then and Clark. I've done a great

916
00:48:09,547 --> 00:48:14,307
Speaker 16: job of talking to us about not popping the balloon

917
00:48:14,427 --> 00:48:17,907
Speaker 16: for the team per se and and applying pressure unneeded

918
00:48:17,947 --> 00:48:22,747
Speaker 16: pressure on our direction. So yeah, yeah, you're right mate,

919
00:48:22,747 --> 00:48:26,267
Speaker 16: I haven't given away as manypenities this here, and it's

920
00:48:26,307 --> 00:48:27,067
Speaker 16: probably a good thing.

921
00:48:27,907 --> 00:48:28,507
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

922
00:48:29,147 --> 00:48:31,547
Speaker 2: You're part of a really impressive group of loose forwards

923
00:48:31,627 --> 00:48:34,227
Speaker 2: at the Hurricanes. Head Braid and yos on the show.

924
00:48:34,347 --> 00:48:36,227
Speaker 2: On head Braid and Yostie on the show last week

925
00:48:36,267 --> 00:48:39,827
Speaker 2: he called you the wolf pack. How connected are you

926
00:48:39,987 --> 00:48:42,187
Speaker 2: as a as a group of loose forwards. You talked

927
00:48:42,227 --> 00:48:44,547
Speaker 2: before about you know, needing to play whatever role is

928
00:48:44,587 --> 00:48:47,627
Speaker 2: handed to you. How connected are the loose forward cohorts

929
00:48:47,867 --> 00:48:48,667
Speaker 2: at the Hurricanes.

930
00:48:51,107 --> 00:48:56,747
Speaker 16: Yeah, We're pretty We're a pretty tight knit group. I'm

931
00:48:56,947 --> 00:49:00,587
Speaker 16: blood I'm bloody proud to be a part of our

932
00:49:00,667 --> 00:49:05,107
Speaker 16: loose forward's chair only because you know, we have a

933
00:49:05,147 --> 00:49:07,867
Speaker 16: lot to offer. But I just love seeing their growth

934
00:49:07,947 --> 00:49:12,627
Speaker 16: and the young boys. I'm not saying I'm no better

935
00:49:12,747 --> 00:49:16,587
Speaker 16: in but you know, braves dev p t k out

936
00:49:16,667 --> 00:49:19,547
Speaker 16: in or younger than me, and to see them just

937
00:49:19,627 --> 00:49:22,587
Speaker 16: excel us here on and off the field has just

938
00:49:22,667 --> 00:49:26,827
Speaker 16: been a pleasure to watch. So to have the likes

939
00:49:26,867 --> 00:49:30,507
Speaker 16: of brands in there as well as just yeah, that's

940
00:49:31,107 --> 00:49:33,547
Speaker 16: it's been one of the most favorable parts of the

941
00:49:33,627 --> 00:49:35,547
Speaker 16: year and the season is just getting to work with

942
00:49:35,667 --> 00:49:38,667
Speaker 16: these boys who have bucket loads of talents, more telling

943
00:49:38,747 --> 00:49:44,987
Speaker 16: that I have in my left pinky, saying I think,

944
00:49:46,747 --> 00:49:48,747
Speaker 16: you know, they have more talent in their pinky than

945
00:49:48,787 --> 00:49:52,147
Speaker 16: I do in my whole wading. But so yeah, just

946
00:49:53,027 --> 00:49:55,307
Speaker 16: we bring the best out in each other. We want

947
00:49:55,347 --> 00:49:58,027
Speaker 16: to see each other do well and when we when

948
00:49:58,107 --> 00:50:01,067
Speaker 16: that happens, you know, we we put it down to

949
00:50:01,147 --> 00:50:05,547
Speaker 16: the group work, the pachus and obviously how hard the

950
00:50:05,627 --> 00:50:08,707
Speaker 16: individuals were King, But you're really enjoying the season with

951
00:50:08,827 --> 00:50:10,147
Speaker 16: these boys. There, a great bunch of boys.

952
00:50:11,067 --> 00:50:13,667
Speaker 2: You're part of a six to two split on the

953
00:50:13,707 --> 00:50:16,067
Speaker 2: bench for this game. What does that tell us about

954
00:50:16,507 --> 00:50:19,347
Speaker 2: about the way that the Hurricanes you like to likely

955
00:50:19,427 --> 00:50:20,107
Speaker 2: to approach this.

956
00:50:20,267 --> 00:50:23,827
Speaker 4: With the with the six to split in the impact place.

957
00:50:26,267 --> 00:50:28,667
Speaker 16: Well, I think it's just it's a lot of the

958
00:50:28,707 --> 00:50:31,307
Speaker 16: physicality of the Chiefs and how big their board packers

959
00:50:31,667 --> 00:50:36,467
Speaker 16: to be there, as well as trusting our backs. You know,

960
00:50:36,547 --> 00:50:38,787
Speaker 16: with only two on the bench, why we're obviously putting

961
00:50:38,787 --> 00:50:42,667
Speaker 16: a lot of trust in our backs to do their

962
00:50:42,747 --> 00:50:47,147
Speaker 16: job well and do it and do it accurately. And yeah,

963
00:50:47,187 --> 00:50:49,267
Speaker 16: I think we're just trying to pack a little bit

964
00:50:49,307 --> 00:50:51,427
Speaker 16: more far pound for the end of the game so

965
00:50:51,507 --> 00:50:55,347
Speaker 16: that we can, you know, me fire with firing, go

966
00:50:55,467 --> 00:50:58,027
Speaker 16: to to toe with this big, big Chief Sports pack.

967
00:50:58,107 --> 00:51:00,067
Speaker 16: We know they have a lot to offer and they

968
00:51:00,187 --> 00:51:05,227
Speaker 16: themselves are some outstanding loose sports who we're looking forward

969
00:51:05,267 --> 00:51:06,267
Speaker 16: to going up against the game.

970
00:51:07,707 --> 00:51:09,907
Speaker 2: It was a sad sight to see Xavior and Mia

971
00:51:10,307 --> 00:51:13,067
Speaker 2: depart the field last weekend against the Rebels with what

972
00:51:13,187 --> 00:51:16,147
Speaker 2: turned out to be a reasonably serious calf injury. How

973
00:51:16,267 --> 00:51:19,147
Speaker 2: gotting to lose such a key player at the business

974
00:51:19,307 --> 00:51:22,667
Speaker 2: end for for you guys, yeah.

975
00:51:22,547 --> 00:51:22,907
Speaker 8: It's just.

976
00:51:24,787 --> 00:51:28,947
Speaker 16: As we's all part of sport, you know, no matter

977
00:51:28,987 --> 00:51:32,387
Speaker 16: what level you play, its injuries, I think, and they

978
00:51:32,427 --> 00:51:37,547
Speaker 16: can affect anyone. But just going for my friend, he

979
00:51:37,667 --> 00:51:41,107
Speaker 16: was having one of those seasons that you'll never forget.

980
00:51:41,467 --> 00:51:47,587
Speaker 16: And there's no I don't believe he want to come

981
00:51:47,627 --> 00:51:51,307
Speaker 16: back better and stronger. It's just unfortunate the timing. And

982
00:51:51,467 --> 00:51:54,267
Speaker 16: really feel for him. I know he's you know, he'll

983
00:51:54,307 --> 00:51:56,627
Speaker 16: be got to he'll be got to to be missing

984
00:51:56,667 --> 00:51:59,267
Speaker 16: out on the rest of the season, and and and

985
00:52:00,507 --> 00:52:04,027
Speaker 16: now I'll just say what I'm thinking, but I'm sure

986
00:52:04,067 --> 00:52:05,667
Speaker 16: a lot of other people were thinking. I know he

987
00:52:05,867 --> 00:52:08,307
Speaker 16: was you know, going to go close to higher honors,

988
00:52:08,387 --> 00:52:11,707
Speaker 16: So just really guarded for him after the year he

989
00:52:11,827 --> 00:52:14,707
Speaker 16: was having to just have to bow out like that.

990
00:52:14,907 --> 00:52:18,187
Speaker 16: But yeah, looking forward to seeing what he does over

991
00:52:18,227 --> 00:52:20,427
Speaker 16: the next few weeks of his recovery in his rehab

992
00:52:20,507 --> 00:52:23,107
Speaker 16: and you know it'll be to have him back on

993
00:52:23,147 --> 00:52:26,907
Speaker 16: the field at some stage. But feeling for him, I know, yeah,

994
00:52:26,947 --> 00:52:29,107
Speaker 16: I know he was looking forward to contributing this weekend

995
00:52:29,187 --> 00:52:31,107
Speaker 16: like he has been all year. He's been amazing.

996
00:52:31,387 --> 00:52:34,307
Speaker 2: Indeed, you have been in the Chiefs twice this season.

997
00:52:34,707 --> 00:52:37,747
Speaker 2: Anything from those two games that's that's useful in a

998
00:52:37,867 --> 00:52:39,827
Speaker 2: in a knockout situation or not.

999
00:52:42,267 --> 00:52:48,267
Speaker 16: Oh absolutely, I understad in one of them. But yeah,

1000
00:52:48,267 --> 00:52:50,747
Speaker 16: as you know, sees a big pack with a pretty

1001
00:52:50,787 --> 00:52:51,547
Speaker 16: slick backline.

1002
00:52:51,707 --> 00:52:52,227
Speaker 6: There are.

1003
00:52:54,627 --> 00:52:57,307
Speaker 16: Yeah, their backs are their backs are the goods, and

1004
00:52:57,707 --> 00:52:59,667
Speaker 16: fifty forwards can do a job, then we know that

1005
00:52:59,707 --> 00:53:02,067
Speaker 16: their backs are going to be a handful for us.

1006
00:53:02,147 --> 00:53:05,267
Speaker 16: So mentioned earlier, we've got to meet fire or fire

1007
00:53:05,347 --> 00:53:10,187
Speaker 16: in terms of the boards, and yeah, it's just gotta

1008
00:53:11,707 --> 00:53:15,547
Speaker 16: fit lightly when the basket of wall only dragged into

1009
00:53:16,667 --> 00:53:19,387
Speaker 16: all of their moves and cut the shreds. So looking

1010
00:53:19,427 --> 00:53:21,827
Speaker 16: forward to their challenge We know that they've probably got

1011
00:53:21,867 --> 00:53:25,187
Speaker 16: a few things up their sleep, you know a little

1012
00:53:25,187 --> 00:53:27,507
Speaker 16: bit of five pounds that they've saved for the semis,

1013
00:53:28,867 --> 00:53:32,307
Speaker 16: looking forward to it, looking forward to looking forward to

1014
00:53:32,387 --> 00:53:33,347
Speaker 16: the challenge.

1015
00:53:34,347 --> 00:53:37,147
Speaker 2: In big crowd coming this afternoon. Dope, ciber thirty thousand

1016
00:53:37,987 --> 00:53:40,067
Speaker 2: on the Awaite Sky Stadium for this game. How much

1017
00:53:40,067 --> 00:53:41,707
Speaker 2: you're looking forward to feeding off their energy.

1018
00:53:43,507 --> 00:53:45,427
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's gonna be, not gonna lie. It's gonna be

1019
00:53:45,507 --> 00:53:47,867
Speaker 16: nice to see a few less yellow seats this weekend.

1020
00:53:48,787 --> 00:53:51,827
Speaker 16: Well we never oh, well we Skott Stadium is a

1021
00:53:51,867 --> 00:53:55,427
Speaker 16: massive stadium, as you know, and we know the energy

1022
00:53:55,467 --> 00:53:59,187
Speaker 16: has been building all year. So to I guess reward

1023
00:53:59,507 --> 00:54:02,827
Speaker 16: our loyal fans and the community down here in Lower

1024
00:54:03,347 --> 00:54:05,787
Speaker 16: Lower North Island with us with a home semi final.

1025
00:54:08,347 --> 00:54:11,387
Speaker 16: You know, it's huge for us. We're really proud of

1026
00:54:11,507 --> 00:54:16,307
Speaker 16: the law fans that we do have. So to see

1027
00:54:16,307 --> 00:54:18,467
Speaker 16: a few more of this weekend, I thought, what's been

1028
00:54:18,507 --> 00:54:21,107
Speaker 16: a pretty good season by all means, will be a

1029
00:54:21,187 --> 00:54:23,307
Speaker 16: cool thing. And I know the boys will be feeding

1030
00:54:23,347 --> 00:54:26,867
Speaker 16: of all of that energy during the warm up, so

1031
00:54:26,987 --> 00:54:29,267
Speaker 16: it's exciting. I know a lot of boys this will

1032
00:54:29,307 --> 00:54:31,187
Speaker 16: be their biggest credit that played in front of so

1033
00:54:31,867 --> 00:54:33,507
Speaker 16: it's an exciting occasion.

1034
00:54:33,947 --> 00:54:36,067
Speaker 2: Yeah, can't wait, mate, can't wait. It's great to get

1035
00:54:36,107 --> 00:54:38,187
Speaker 2: the chance to chat to you. I hope everything goes

1036
00:54:38,267 --> 00:54:41,627
Speaker 2: well and you earn yourself one more Monday. Great to

1037
00:54:41,707 --> 00:54:42,907
Speaker 2: chat to you as always, mate.

1038
00:54:43,947 --> 00:54:45,947
Speaker 16: That's the one finding Thanks mate, always a pleasure.

1039
00:54:46,147 --> 00:54:48,707
Speaker 2: Great to chat do place, Thank you do pas calify there.

1040
00:54:48,947 --> 00:54:50,827
Speaker 2: He'll come off the bench as part of the six

1041
00:54:50,867 --> 00:54:52,947
Speaker 2: to two split for the Hurricanes this afternoon against the

1042
00:54:53,027 --> 00:54:57,427
Speaker 2: Chiefs four thirty five sky Stadium, gold Sport and iHeartRadio

1043
00:54:57,547 --> 00:55:01,387
Speaker 2: for the commentary. If you need to listen and which

1044
00:55:01,427 --> 00:55:02,307
Speaker 2: way are you going on this one?

1045
00:55:02,427 --> 00:55:02,627
Speaker 9: Mark?

1046
00:55:04,427 --> 00:55:07,627
Speaker 8: Everybody trying to get on last week. Spoke to Andy

1047
00:55:07,667 --> 00:55:08,707
Speaker 8: and he sort of agreed with me.

1048
00:55:08,827 --> 00:55:09,947
Speaker 15: I just had a little theory on.

1049
00:55:10,027 --> 00:55:10,867
Speaker 17: Both the semis.

1050
00:55:11,467 --> 00:55:15,987
Speaker 18: Yes, last night you had arguably the two best forward

1051
00:55:16,067 --> 00:55:19,547
Speaker 18: packs in the competition, and to me, the best forward

1052
00:55:19,627 --> 00:55:22,147
Speaker 18: pack did win that game. It was pretty hard to

1053
00:55:22,187 --> 00:55:24,547
Speaker 18: decipher one player for meat Ford Packer, who are going

1054
00:55:24,587 --> 00:55:26,067
Speaker 18: to dominate tonight.

1055
00:55:26,187 --> 00:55:29,267
Speaker 11: You've got a tony different scenario. You've got the two

1056
00:55:29,347 --> 00:55:32,987
Speaker 11: best back lines in the comp and arguably, in my mind,

1057
00:55:33,027 --> 00:55:34,947
Speaker 11: probably the two best back lines in the world at

1058
00:55:34,987 --> 00:55:37,707
Speaker 11: the moment, and I think today's result is going to

1059
00:55:37,867 --> 00:55:43,787
Speaker 11: come down to two players who can manufacture and decipher

1060
00:55:43,907 --> 00:55:48,147
Speaker 11: the game perfectly, and that's Tammy McKenzie and Scott Barrett.

1061
00:55:48,507 --> 00:55:51,147
Speaker 11: Whoever does the best job there, that team will win.

1062
00:55:51,587 --> 00:55:54,187
Speaker 4: Hang on, Scott Barrett, he plays for the Crusaders.

1063
00:55:55,627 --> 00:55:56,307
Speaker 11: Brody Barrett.

1064
00:55:56,347 --> 00:55:58,467
Speaker 4: Sorry, yes, I knew who you've are, just giving you

1065
00:55:58,507 --> 00:56:00,147
Speaker 4: a little bit of jib there, Mark, I know you

1066
00:56:00,267 --> 00:56:01,427
Speaker 4: mean Jordy and you're so.

1067
00:56:03,147 --> 00:56:03,347
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1068
00:56:03,387 --> 00:56:06,067
Speaker 2: I think you've landed on two. I think you've got

1069
00:56:06,387 --> 00:56:08,627
Speaker 2: I basically think you nailed it. You've landed on two

1070
00:56:09,467 --> 00:56:12,107
Speaker 2: very very important and very very good players.

1071
00:56:13,027 --> 00:56:14,187
Speaker 4: Do you have any do you have any skin in

1072
00:56:14,267 --> 00:56:16,627
Speaker 4: this game? Are you you from Rot to Do? Are

1073
00:56:16,627 --> 00:56:17,347
Speaker 4: you chief Country?

1074
00:56:18,947 --> 00:56:19,147
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1075
00:56:19,227 --> 00:56:21,547
Speaker 11: Well I am Chief Country, buddy, but I've always been

1076
00:56:21,587 --> 00:56:26,147
Speaker 11: a blues boy. I think this game is going to

1077
00:56:26,227 --> 00:56:29,107
Speaker 11: come down to Golden Point, just put it that way.

1078
00:56:29,107 --> 00:56:29,907
Speaker 11: I think it's going to draw.

1079
00:56:31,387 --> 00:56:33,347
Speaker 2: All right, Mark, Well, I hope my voice holds out.

1080
00:56:33,387 --> 00:56:35,747
Speaker 2: I've got the got the call of this once, so

1081
00:56:37,107 --> 00:56:39,307
Speaker 2: so pray for me and my voice if that happens. Mark,

1082
00:56:39,387 --> 00:56:40,267
Speaker 2: good to chat to you, mate.

1083
00:56:40,347 --> 00:56:40,507
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1084
00:56:40,627 --> 00:56:42,827
Speaker 4: Look, Mackenzie terrific.

1085
00:56:43,667 --> 00:56:44,147
Speaker 5: I mean.

1086
00:56:45,507 --> 00:56:47,827
Speaker 2: Basically a FATA kom play Hill were the ten jersey

1087
00:56:47,907 --> 00:56:49,867
Speaker 2: for the All Blacks, certainly, and they will get first

1088
00:56:49,907 --> 00:56:52,427
Speaker 2: crack at it. And Jordi Barrett I thought last week

1089
00:56:52,467 --> 00:56:55,787
Speaker 2: against the Rebels in that quarter final, the way he

1090
00:56:55,907 --> 00:56:58,147
Speaker 2: kind of took that game by the scruff of its neck.

1091
00:56:58,867 --> 00:57:02,307
Speaker 2: When the Hurricanes were struggling just to gain ascendency in

1092
00:57:02,347 --> 00:57:05,787
Speaker 2: the first half in particular, he just and and the

1093
00:57:05,867 --> 00:57:07,267
Speaker 2: early part of the second half he kind of just

1094
00:57:07,307 --> 00:57:09,227
Speaker 2: picked them on and said to look, follow me, and

1095
00:57:09,347 --> 00:57:12,507
Speaker 2: they did and got the job done reasonably comfortably forty

1096
00:57:12,547 --> 00:57:14,867
Speaker 2: seven to twenty. As far as the Chiefs are concerned,

1097
00:57:15,787 --> 00:57:19,427
Speaker 2: the way Damien McKenzie's been playing all season, I think

1098
00:57:19,467 --> 00:57:23,307
Speaker 2: he's played fourteen of the of the sixteen games running

1099
00:57:23,347 --> 00:57:25,587
Speaker 2: the cutter for the Chiefs as looked every inch. A

1100
00:57:25,707 --> 00:57:30,027
Speaker 2: player who is very comfortable in his own skin knows

1101
00:57:30,107 --> 00:57:33,187
Speaker 2: how to run this team around. I did find it interesting.

1102
00:57:33,227 --> 00:57:34,867
Speaker 2: I have to say, I'll say this before we go

1103
00:57:34,987 --> 00:57:37,387
Speaker 2: to a break and then get a tenny. Thenos Toto

1104
00:57:37,467 --> 00:57:44,187
Speaker 2: on the air, the Chiefs talked about, you know, peaking

1105
00:57:44,227 --> 00:57:46,307
Speaker 2: at the right time, and it's been a bit of

1106
00:57:46,347 --> 00:57:49,067
Speaker 2: a narrative this week and when they've been asked about

1107
00:57:49,067 --> 00:57:51,507
Speaker 2: how this season has had its peaks and troughs. It's

1108
00:57:51,587 --> 00:57:54,787
Speaker 2: ups and downs. Remember last season they won fifteen in

1109
00:57:54,827 --> 00:57:57,307
Speaker 2: a row going into the final, which they lost to

1110
00:57:57,387 --> 00:58:00,747
Speaker 2: the Crusaders. They've sort of stuck with the narrative this

1111
00:58:00,827 --> 00:58:04,747
Speaker 2: week around, having learned from that and knowing that it's

1112
00:58:04,747 --> 00:58:07,507
Speaker 2: actually the finals that are important than the regular season.

1113
00:58:08,067 --> 00:58:09,987
Speaker 2: And I kind of that sort of made it sound

1114
00:58:10,027 --> 00:58:13,747
Speaker 2: as though they've been inconsistent on purpose, which I'm sure

1115
00:58:13,987 --> 00:58:15,907
Speaker 2: is not the case. Sure have to look back to

1116
00:58:15,947 --> 00:58:18,787
Speaker 2: their losses to the Reds and the Crusaders, the Hurricanes twice,

1117
00:58:19,507 --> 00:58:22,747
Speaker 2: the Blues. You know, I'm sure would have wanted to

1118
00:58:22,787 --> 00:58:26,987
Speaker 2: win those games. But it's a nice narrative, I have

1119
00:58:27,107 --> 00:58:30,187
Speaker 2: to say, And watching them dismantle the Reds last week

1120
00:58:30,947 --> 00:58:33,347
Speaker 2: was quite frightening from a Hurricanes fans point of view.

1121
00:58:35,427 --> 00:58:38,107
Speaker 2: So yeah, I honestly think it's a coin flip.

1122
00:58:38,587 --> 00:58:39,067
Speaker 4: It really is.

1123
00:58:39,227 --> 00:58:40,867
Speaker 2: Let's get a chief's view. We'll do that in just

1124
00:58:40,947 --> 00:58:43,947
Speaker 2: a second. It's one twenty four. Just quick check on

1125
00:58:43,947 --> 00:58:46,947
Speaker 2: the cricket. You gan a twenty one for five coming

1126
00:58:46,947 --> 00:58:49,747
Speaker 2: towards the end of the tenth over batting first against

1127
00:58:49,787 --> 00:58:52,547
Speaker 2: New Zealand in the T twenty Cricket World Cup. Back

1128
00:58:52,587 --> 00:58:54,307
Speaker 2: in a moment and inside the Chiefs camp.

1129
00:58:55,027 --> 00:59:01,547
Speaker 1: One Crouch Hold Engage Weekend Sport with Jason Frame and GJ. Gunderholmes,

1130
00:59:01,787 --> 00:59:05,467
Speaker 1: New Zealand's first trusted home builder News Talks ab News

1131
00:59:05,507 --> 00:59:08,067
Speaker 1: Talks ab It's one twenty seven producer Mark has quite

1132
00:59:08,187 --> 00:59:10,987
Speaker 1: rightly pointed out that it wasn't a fifteen game winning

1133
00:59:11,027 --> 00:59:12,107
Speaker 1: streak for the Chiefs last year.

1134
00:59:12,147 --> 00:59:13,627
Speaker 2: They won their first ten I think it was then

1135
00:59:13,667 --> 00:59:16,987
Speaker 2: lost to the Reds, that's right, and then went through

1136
00:59:17,027 --> 00:59:20,107
Speaker 2: the Hurricanes Brumbies in force, won their quarter final against

1137
00:59:20,107 --> 00:59:23,187
Speaker 2: the Reds, their semi final against the Brumbies before losing

1138
00:59:23,227 --> 00:59:25,427
Speaker 2: the final to the Crusaders. So that was the Chiefs

1139
00:59:25,947 --> 00:59:30,307
Speaker 2: last year. Can they learn from that and make the

1140
00:59:30,347 --> 00:59:31,427
Speaker 2: Grand final in this time?

1141
00:59:31,627 --> 00:59:31,867
Speaker 20: Win it?

1142
00:59:31,947 --> 00:59:34,627
Speaker 2: If they do make the Grand Final, of course it'll

1143
00:59:34,707 --> 00:59:37,867
Speaker 2: be at Eden Park. And Clayton McMillan said after that

1144
00:59:38,067 --> 00:59:41,267
Speaker 2: game a couple of weeks ago, when the Blues beat

1145
00:59:41,347 --> 00:59:43,827
Speaker 2: the Chiefs in the final match of round robin, we

1146
00:59:43,907 --> 00:59:46,467
Speaker 2: will see you back here for the final back at

1147
00:59:46,587 --> 00:59:49,347
Speaker 2: Eden Park. Well, if his team wins this afternoon, that's

1148
00:59:49,427 --> 00:59:53,147
Speaker 2: exactly what will happen. Chiefs winger at tenny Nanai Saturo

1149
00:59:53,507 --> 00:59:56,387
Speaker 2: has played every single game of this season for the Chiefs.

1150
00:59:56,547 --> 00:59:58,827
Speaker 3: Running it back is no tourro over halfway and then

1151
00:59:58,827 --> 01:00:00,707
Speaker 3: a little ship over the top chasing Will He gets

1152
01:00:00,707 --> 01:00:02,827
Speaker 3: the bouse, He gets the bouse. The tackle from Leo

1153
01:00:02,867 --> 01:00:07,707
Speaker 3: willis miss and nana I Saturo in the left head corner.

1154
01:00:08,067 --> 01:00:10,187
Speaker 2: He's been a standout for the Chiefs this season and

1155
01:00:10,347 --> 01:00:12,347
Speaker 2: joins us now at any and then nice to turn.

1156
01:00:12,467 --> 01:00:14,627
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time at any Not only will

1157
01:00:14,627 --> 01:00:17,307
Speaker 2: you play your sixteenth game this afternoon in a row,

1158
01:00:17,467 --> 01:00:22,507
Speaker 2: it's your sixteenth straight start. No other player has done

1159
01:00:22,587 --> 01:00:26,747
Speaker 2: that in Super rugby this season started sixteen straight games.

1160
01:00:26,787 --> 01:00:28,907
Speaker 2: So first of all, man, how's the body holding up?

1161
01:00:29,907 --> 01:00:34,987
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I guess it's just hanging on. No, yeah,

1162
01:00:35,067 --> 01:00:38,387
Speaker 5: but it's been asso. I guess it's just awesome to

1163
01:00:38,427 --> 01:00:40,347
Speaker 5: get a couple of games under my belt. You know,

1164
01:00:40,387 --> 01:00:45,067
Speaker 5: obviously the last past five years i've been here, I've

1165
01:00:45,067 --> 01:00:47,507
Speaker 5: been in and out because of injuries. But there's probably

1166
01:00:47,547 --> 01:00:52,627
Speaker 5: my season or for sixty years playing sixteen games, like

1167
01:00:52,707 --> 01:00:55,747
Speaker 5: you said, and yeah, that's good. Body is all good

1168
01:00:55,787 --> 01:00:58,067
Speaker 5: as just hanging on. But yeah, I'm good to go

1169
01:00:58,187 --> 01:00:59,707
Speaker 5: for the seeking and I.

1170
01:00:59,707 --> 01:01:02,587
Speaker 2: Guess also as well as staying injury free, you've got

1171
01:01:02,627 --> 01:01:05,347
Speaker 2: to be playing well to continue to be selected week

1172
01:01:05,387 --> 01:01:05,827
Speaker 2: after week.

1173
01:01:05,907 --> 01:01:06,067
Speaker 9: Are you?

1174
01:01:06,347 --> 01:01:07,947
Speaker 2: Are you happy with the way things are going by

1175
01:01:08,027 --> 01:01:11,347
Speaker 2: to yourself and and and the chief season on the whole.

1176
01:01:12,627 --> 01:01:19,507
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well obviously you said, yeah, pretty pretty happy

1177
01:01:19,507 --> 01:01:24,147
Speaker 5: with my performance. I think I've been going been going

1178
01:01:24,187 --> 01:01:30,427
Speaker 5: all good. But obviously it's the finals finals footy now,

1179
01:01:30,467 --> 01:01:33,747
Speaker 5: And I guess those players who who play in the

1180
01:01:34,347 --> 01:01:38,347
Speaker 5: it's one of the big one, the big stag that

1181
01:01:38,507 --> 01:01:41,827
Speaker 5: they they get to share themselves what kind of a

1182
01:01:41,867 --> 01:01:44,907
Speaker 5: player they are in finals? In finals fuddy.

1183
01:01:45,267 --> 01:01:48,067
Speaker 2: Indeed, you play mainly on the wing obviously, but you've

1184
01:01:48,107 --> 01:01:49,747
Speaker 2: had a few games at fallback as well. Do you

1185
01:01:49,947 --> 01:01:51,907
Speaker 2: enjoy wearing the fifteen jersey?

1186
01:01:53,227 --> 01:01:58,627
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's awesome, don't the swing of fullback? But yeah,

1187
01:01:58,787 --> 01:02:00,627
Speaker 5: I've been getting a couple of games there this year.

1188
01:02:00,707 --> 01:02:06,627
Speaker 5: And yeah, obviously full back, I guess I preferred to position,

1189
01:02:06,787 --> 01:02:11,067
Speaker 5: but opposition, but no, should have been awesome plast in

1190
01:02:11,067 --> 01:02:13,827
Speaker 5: the last couple of years. So yeah, he's he plays

1191
01:02:13,827 --> 01:02:14,747
Speaker 5: a big role in our team.

1192
01:02:14,827 --> 01:02:18,707
Speaker 2: And yeah, there's something that's become a parent in your

1193
01:02:18,787 --> 01:02:21,707
Speaker 2: game recently, well not recently, but over the last couple

1194
01:02:21,747 --> 01:02:22,147
Speaker 2: of years.

1195
01:02:22,227 --> 01:02:23,627
Speaker 4: As is your kicking.

1196
01:02:23,867 --> 01:02:26,507
Speaker 2: Uh is that something you've worked on, perhaps with someone

1197
01:02:26,547 --> 01:02:28,027
Speaker 2: like David Hill in the Chiefs environment.

1198
01:02:29,827 --> 01:02:34,067
Speaker 5: Uh, yeah, yeah, David Hurll and also like players like

1199
01:02:34,347 --> 01:02:38,747
Speaker 5: Sean Steinson. Now obviously he's got a big big on him.

1200
01:02:40,067 --> 01:02:43,867
Speaker 5: And yeah, it's still still working on my left foot,

1201
01:02:44,987 --> 01:02:49,827
Speaker 5: but yeah, I guess this year they've you know, the coaches,

1202
01:02:49,907 --> 01:02:52,227
Speaker 5: the team, they've put a lot of ownership on myself

1203
01:02:52,307 --> 01:02:55,867
Speaker 5: to use my boot more, especially on the left side,

1204
01:02:56,027 --> 01:03:02,067
Speaker 5: to relieve pressure with boot, and also Sean that just

1205
01:03:02,307 --> 01:03:05,747
Speaker 5: kind of changes up I'll kick in, gives us more

1206
01:03:05,827 --> 01:03:09,187
Speaker 5: kicking on. So yeah, it's going pretty good, and yeah

1207
01:03:09,227 --> 01:03:11,267
Speaker 5: I'm still developing my boot.

1208
01:03:12,187 --> 01:03:15,507
Speaker 2: Last weekend went over the Raids in the quarterfinal, pretty impressive,

1209
01:03:15,587 --> 01:03:18,267
Speaker 2: particularly in the first half. Did it kind of feel

1210
01:03:18,347 --> 01:03:21,067
Speaker 2: like everything really finally clicked for you guys in the

1211
01:03:21,467 --> 01:03:22,747
Speaker 2: first half last weekend?

1212
01:03:23,827 --> 01:03:28,467
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I feel like the obviously our forwards they're

1213
01:03:28,547 --> 01:03:32,907
Speaker 5: on that game. I think they've hit the platform for us,

1214
01:03:33,867 --> 01:03:38,907
Speaker 5: great platform platform for us to prospects to strike out. Yeah,

1215
01:03:39,467 --> 01:03:41,747
Speaker 5: everything was going well. We're playing in the right end

1216
01:03:41,787 --> 01:03:46,187
Speaker 5: of the field also with Shanman shooter in the first

1217
01:03:46,227 --> 01:03:49,707
Speaker 5: half using his boot. Realised a lot of pressure for

1218
01:03:49,787 --> 01:03:53,587
Speaker 5: us in our house to people've got to continue there

1219
01:03:53,707 --> 01:03:57,307
Speaker 5: this week, just going against going against the Kings.

1220
01:03:57,747 --> 01:03:57,987
Speaker 9: We know.

1221
01:04:00,107 --> 01:04:03,027
Speaker 5: What they bring in the efforts that they have just

1222
01:04:03,147 --> 01:04:03,507
Speaker 5: on them.

1223
01:04:03,547 --> 01:04:05,187
Speaker 2: If you you know, you talked to a lot of

1224
01:04:05,227 --> 01:04:07,627
Speaker 2: people talk about the Chiefs back three and how impressive

1225
01:04:07,667 --> 01:04:09,867
Speaker 2: you've been. You look at the Hurricanes back three for

1226
01:04:09,947 --> 01:04:13,747
Speaker 2: this one rare Morby love how much work do you

1227
01:04:13,827 --> 01:04:17,387
Speaker 2: put into diffusing what they might bring this afternoon.

1228
01:04:19,547 --> 01:04:24,987
Speaker 5: Yes, they've got a good back three. I've played assess

1229
01:04:25,707 --> 01:04:28,867
Speaker 5: he's good of ball in hand, Ruben as well, Ruben

1230
01:04:28,947 --> 01:04:31,827
Speaker 5: loves at the back. He's got a good boot, good

1231
01:04:31,867 --> 01:04:36,307
Speaker 5: skills in flas as well and also Moreby's he's cooked

1232
01:04:36,307 --> 01:04:40,027
Speaker 5: as well. But we know what they're going to bring.

1233
01:04:40,827 --> 01:04:43,027
Speaker 5: We know that they're good of born hand. But I

1234
01:04:43,107 --> 01:04:46,627
Speaker 5: think it's for us it's just limiting the often then

1235
01:04:47,547 --> 01:04:50,307
Speaker 5: I guess focusing more on how we're how we're going

1236
01:04:50,387 --> 01:04:51,707
Speaker 5: to play on this second.

1237
01:04:51,827 --> 01:04:54,227
Speaker 2: And Damien McKenzie and the ten jersey for you has

1238
01:04:54,307 --> 01:04:56,707
Speaker 2: been directing you around the park all season. How have

1239
01:04:56,827 --> 01:04:59,667
Speaker 2: you assessed the way he's gone in the in the

1240
01:04:59,707 --> 01:05:03,827
Speaker 2: first five position for your for you guys this season, he's.

1241
01:05:04,427 --> 01:05:11,027
Speaker 5: He's he's awesome spoke for us and his knowledge, his brain. Yeah,

1242
01:05:11,587 --> 01:05:13,987
Speaker 5: especially when I was playing full back. A couple of

1243
01:05:14,027 --> 01:05:17,187
Speaker 5: games I was playing full back. Yeah, he took a

1244
01:05:17,227 --> 01:05:19,987
Speaker 5: lot of pressure off me and he's yeah, he's got

1245
01:05:20,547 --> 01:05:23,427
Speaker 5: he's sort of like the voice fail team and everytink

1246
01:05:23,427 --> 01:05:26,027
Speaker 5: goes through him. Then, yeah, he's been big for me

1247
01:05:26,147 --> 01:05:26,467
Speaker 5: this year.

1248
01:05:26,987 --> 01:05:29,227
Speaker 2: Of course, you were part of the New Zealand seven's

1249
01:05:29,427 --> 01:05:32,347
Speaker 2: set up when Clark Laidlaw was was the national sevens

1250
01:05:32,427 --> 01:05:35,427
Speaker 2: coaches now Hurricanes coach. Of course you want a Commonwealth

1251
01:05:35,467 --> 01:05:38,107
Speaker 2: Games gold medal, Olympic silver medal with Clarke Laidlaw. I

1252
01:05:38,187 --> 01:05:41,467
Speaker 2: think uh has a as a surprise you had quickly

1253
01:05:41,907 --> 01:05:43,587
Speaker 2: he's adjusted to coaching fifteenth.

1254
01:05:45,507 --> 01:05:47,067
Speaker 8: No, not not really.

1255
01:05:47,547 --> 01:05:50,987
Speaker 5: No, Clark's a good coach. He's also good of other

1256
01:05:50,987 --> 01:05:54,947
Speaker 5: stuff as well. Just bringing him he's got around the

1257
01:05:54,987 --> 01:05:57,827
Speaker 5: offfield as well, the culture in there, and I'm not

1258
01:05:57,907 --> 01:06:01,427
Speaker 5: surprised that they're going well. I know what it's like

1259
01:06:01,547 --> 01:06:05,467
Speaker 5: to be under Clark Laidlaw and yeah, yeah, not surprised.

1260
01:06:05,787 --> 01:06:08,027
Speaker 2: He seems to be a really good man manager, and

1261
01:06:08,307 --> 01:06:10,707
Speaker 2: obviously it's there's a lot more people to manage when

1262
01:06:10,747 --> 01:06:13,067
Speaker 2: you're a fifteen's coach. But did you find that in

1263
01:06:13,147 --> 01:06:15,147
Speaker 2: the seven's environment under him that he was that he

1264
01:06:15,267 --> 01:06:16,027
Speaker 2: was good one to one?

1265
01:06:17,307 --> 01:06:20,867
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he was really good around the especially me

1266
01:06:21,027 --> 01:06:23,667
Speaker 5: coming out of school. He was good for my confidence.

1267
01:06:24,107 --> 01:06:27,267
Speaker 5: What was backing me And yeah, obviously as a young player,

1268
01:06:27,347 --> 01:06:31,147
Speaker 5: that's what you want when you're as a coach, you

1269
01:06:31,227 --> 01:06:34,307
Speaker 5: want coach to back you. And yeah he was, he was.

1270
01:06:34,707 --> 01:06:37,387
Speaker 5: I was when I was under the club, all right.

1271
01:06:37,467 --> 01:06:40,547
Speaker 2: And just to finish beaten in the semi final two

1272
01:06:40,627 --> 01:06:43,267
Speaker 2: years ago, beaten in the final last year. Do you

1273
01:06:43,307 --> 01:06:45,827
Speaker 2: feel like the Chiefs can take that last step and

1274
01:06:46,107 --> 01:06:47,707
Speaker 2: win the whole thing this year?

1275
01:06:49,107 --> 01:06:50,987
Speaker 5: I know, I know that we can know we got

1276
01:06:51,067 --> 01:06:53,347
Speaker 5: the team for it. It's just us turning up on

1277
01:06:53,427 --> 01:06:57,347
Speaker 5: the day. But we've been there before and we spoke

1278
01:06:57,387 --> 01:07:02,107
Speaker 5: about that this week and but I guess the precires

1279
01:07:02,147 --> 01:07:02,587
Speaker 5: not on us.

1280
01:07:03,267 --> 01:07:03,467
Speaker 11: Soon.

1281
01:07:04,147 --> 01:07:05,667
Speaker 5: We said to go out there in our front up

1282
01:07:05,747 --> 01:07:07,467
Speaker 5: and I guess play our game.

1283
01:07:08,027 --> 01:07:09,747
Speaker 2: Well, it's going to be a big crowd there at

1284
01:07:09,827 --> 01:07:12,547
Speaker 2: any this afternoon, over thirty thousand turning up. I get

1285
01:07:12,587 --> 01:07:14,827
Speaker 2: the feeling most of them will probably be cheering for

1286
01:07:14,907 --> 01:07:17,307
Speaker 2: the Hurricanes, but I'm sure you won't mind that in

1287
01:07:17,427 --> 01:07:20,107
Speaker 2: the Chiefs either, mate. Hey, all the best or the

1288
01:07:20,147 --> 01:07:22,267
Speaker 2: best in the semi final. Like I say, everybody's really

1289
01:07:22,347 --> 01:07:24,547
Speaker 2: looking forward to it. I appreciate you taking the time.

1290
01:07:24,427 --> 01:07:27,147
Speaker 5: For a chat, no no worries, Thanks for having me,

1291
01:07:27,227 --> 01:07:27,987
Speaker 5: thank you, no, thank you.

1292
01:07:27,947 --> 01:07:30,547
Speaker 2: For joining us at at any nana Satuto there and

1293
01:07:30,627 --> 01:07:33,187
Speaker 2: ever present for the Chiefs this season has to be

1294
01:07:33,227 --> 01:07:36,227
Speaker 2: in that All Blacks conversation too, along with perhaps the

1295
01:07:36,307 --> 01:07:38,947
Speaker 2: other two members of that Chief's back three Emoni Nadawa

1296
01:07:39,187 --> 01:07:44,187
Speaker 2: and Sean Stevenson. Pretty stacked outside backs contingent for the Chiefs.

1297
01:07:44,227 --> 01:07:48,587
Speaker 2: But yeah, Ruben Love, Josh Morby, Celesie Rayarsi for the Hurricanes.

1298
01:07:48,667 --> 01:07:52,547
Speaker 2: So I guess really it's it's up to the respective

1299
01:07:52,587 --> 01:07:56,027
Speaker 2: Ford packs to provide quality ball for the likes of

1300
01:07:56,067 --> 01:07:59,547
Speaker 2: those players. This afternoon, let's actually get you to Hurricane

1301
01:07:59,587 --> 01:08:02,147
Speaker 2: CEO Avan Lee just to get a gauge on where

1302
01:08:02,187 --> 01:08:05,347
Speaker 2: we are ticket sale wise and other messaging. Evan, thanks

1303
01:08:05,347 --> 01:08:06,907
Speaker 2: for taking the time. What sort of crowd are we

1304
01:08:07,387 --> 01:08:08,787
Speaker 2: tracking towards this afternoon?

1305
01:08:09,947 --> 01:08:12,707
Speaker 15: I think it's like twenty seven, twenty eight pine like

1306
01:08:13,067 --> 01:08:16,267
Speaker 15: it's actually lovely day outside, so I think more people

1307
01:08:16,347 --> 01:08:20,787
Speaker 15: will we'll get tickets today. But yeah, it's it's awesome.

1308
01:08:20,987 --> 01:08:22,547
Speaker 15: Like you know, Like I said during the week, I

1309
01:08:22,587 --> 01:08:25,027
Speaker 15: think twenty five plus would have been good. It would

1310
01:08:25,027 --> 01:08:27,667
Speaker 15: have been great to get to thirty, but there's no

1311
01:08:27,867 --> 01:08:30,587
Speaker 15: that's not to say we won't. We can get up

1312
01:08:30,627 --> 01:08:34,147
Speaker 15: to five thousand on a walk up on game day,

1313
01:08:34,267 --> 01:08:37,107
Speaker 15: so given the weather's nice, I think that could you know,

1314
01:08:37,187 --> 01:08:40,227
Speaker 15: we could get near that, so it could nudge towards thirty.

1315
01:08:40,307 --> 01:08:42,187
Speaker 15: But if I had to put a number on it,

1316
01:08:42,187 --> 01:08:43,907
Speaker 15: I'd say twenty seven, twenty eight, all right.

1317
01:08:43,827 --> 01:08:46,307
Speaker 2: That's still going to be rocking at kickoff time. Yeah

1318
01:08:46,707 --> 01:08:50,067
Speaker 2: for those Yeah, for those heading along this afternoon. Any

1319
01:08:50,187 --> 01:08:52,707
Speaker 2: any key messages for those attending the game.

1320
01:08:53,947 --> 01:08:56,067
Speaker 15: I think the biggest one is just get there early.

1321
01:08:57,787 --> 01:09:01,507
Speaker 15: Gates open two hours before, but I think if you're

1322
01:09:01,587 --> 01:09:03,947
Speaker 15: if you're not at the stadium an hour before, you're

1323
01:09:03,947 --> 01:09:07,827
Speaker 15: going to have a massive queue. So Wellingtonians tend to

1324
01:09:08,027 --> 01:09:11,587
Speaker 15: roll up late, so I would get an early, get

1325
01:09:11,627 --> 01:09:15,147
Speaker 15: your transport into the city and then get into the

1326
01:09:15,187 --> 01:09:18,667
Speaker 15: ground and enjoy the atmosphere and the pre match entertainment.

1327
01:09:19,827 --> 01:09:22,547
Speaker 15: That's the main one, mate, I think, just yeah, get

1328
01:09:22,627 --> 01:09:23,107
Speaker 15: along early.

1329
01:09:23,987 --> 01:09:26,587
Speaker 2: Can you enjoy tonight all this afternoon? Rather from a

1330
01:09:26,667 --> 01:09:29,627
Speaker 2: rugby sense or as CEO of the Hurricanes, is there

1331
01:09:29,707 --> 01:09:31,627
Speaker 2: a bit too much on your plate for you to

1332
01:09:31,707 --> 01:09:33,187
Speaker 2: actually enjoy a game of rugby?

1333
01:09:34,187 --> 01:09:38,787
Speaker 15: Oh, I'll enjoy it if we win. I think, yeah,

1334
01:09:39,107 --> 01:09:40,347
Speaker 15: you sort of wake up in the morning and you

1335
01:09:40,387 --> 01:09:43,547
Speaker 15: get a bit nerves like everybody. But no, I mean

1336
01:09:43,747 --> 01:09:45,867
Speaker 15: I'll enjoy it like it's a big challenge for us

1337
01:09:45,947 --> 01:09:48,827
Speaker 15: against the Chiefs. But you know, just really proud of

1338
01:09:48,867 --> 01:09:52,267
Speaker 15: the staff and players have got us here tonight, and

1339
01:09:53,307 --> 01:09:55,507
Speaker 15: I just want them to go and go and do

1340
01:09:55,587 --> 01:10:00,267
Speaker 15: their job, you know. So yeah, confident in a realistic

1341
01:10:00,347 --> 01:10:03,147
Speaker 15: way because I don't know, but it feels like it's

1342
01:10:03,187 --> 01:10:06,947
Speaker 15: a fifty to fifty so you know, having that, having

1343
01:10:06,987 --> 01:10:07,987
Speaker 15: that crowd support, it's.

1344
01:10:07,907 --> 01:10:11,067
Speaker 2: Going to be amazing obviously that the players have been

1345
01:10:11,107 --> 01:10:13,507
Speaker 2: preparing all week. What does your week look like as

1346
01:10:13,547 --> 01:10:17,507
Speaker 2: the as the CEO of the organization? How much of

1347
01:10:17,587 --> 01:10:20,987
Speaker 2: your focus has gone on to today across this week?

1348
01:10:21,987 --> 01:10:25,227
Speaker 15: Not a huge amount, to be honest. We had a

1349
01:10:26,027 --> 01:10:28,547
Speaker 15: I've got some great people in the Hurricanes who look

1350
01:10:28,627 --> 01:10:31,667
Speaker 15: after their particular areas but just in the background, I

1351
01:10:31,747 --> 01:10:37,027
Speaker 15: guess providing advice around marketing, ticketing and sponsors and all

1352
01:10:37,067 --> 01:10:39,227
Speaker 15: that sort of thing because I've been around far too long.

1353
01:10:39,387 --> 01:10:42,987
Speaker 15: But yeah, no, it's it's like at a board meeting yesterday.

1354
01:10:43,067 --> 01:10:45,947
Speaker 15: So it's just a normal, normal week in a lot

1355
01:10:45,987 --> 01:10:49,347
Speaker 15: of ways. But you know, there's a different feeling at work.

1356
01:10:50,107 --> 01:10:54,307
Speaker 15: And I would certainly go to meetings during the week,

1357
01:10:55,147 --> 01:11:00,667
Speaker 15: team meetings, strategy sessions because it's such a big game

1358
01:11:00,827 --> 01:11:03,107
Speaker 15: and you just want to be part of it. So

1359
01:11:03,347 --> 01:11:05,307
Speaker 15: I definitely make more of an effort in that respect.

1360
01:11:05,427 --> 01:11:08,747
Speaker 15: But yeah, there's plenty of people know what they're doing

1361
01:11:08,787 --> 01:11:11,147
Speaker 15: in that area, so I kind of leave them to it.

1362
01:11:11,667 --> 01:11:13,867
Speaker 2: Have you let yourself think about the possibility of a

1363
01:11:13,907 --> 01:11:15,787
Speaker 2: Grand Final or do you not want to jinx it?

1364
01:11:16,827 --> 01:11:18,627
Speaker 15: No, I don't want to jinx it. But you've got

1365
01:11:18,667 --> 01:11:21,427
Speaker 15: a plan for it, because you know it comes around

1366
01:11:21,467 --> 01:11:24,347
Speaker 15: pretty quickly, so you've got to start doing some work

1367
01:11:24,427 --> 01:11:26,947
Speaker 15: on it. But you know, you don't get ahead of yourself, obviously,

1368
01:11:27,107 --> 01:11:29,827
Speaker 15: But you know if we did, if we didn't win today,

1369
01:11:30,027 --> 01:11:32,147
Speaker 15: it's not a lot of time to get everything sorted

1370
01:11:32,227 --> 01:11:36,227
Speaker 15: and get tickets on sale and all that kind of thing.

1371
01:11:36,307 --> 01:11:39,827
Speaker 15: But naturally your mind goes that way sometimes.

1372
01:11:39,947 --> 01:11:41,947
Speaker 5: But you know, we've got a huge challenge today.

1373
01:11:42,387 --> 01:11:44,187
Speaker 2: Had Paul Tito on the show earlier, I would have

1374
01:11:44,187 --> 01:11:45,587
Speaker 2: thought he would have wanted to I would have thought

1375
01:11:45,587 --> 01:11:48,787
Speaker 2: he wanted the Hurricanes to win, being a former alumni himself,

1376
01:11:48,827 --> 01:11:50,307
Speaker 2: But he said, no, we want the home finals.

1377
01:11:50,347 --> 01:11:52,547
Speaker 4: So you haven't got Paul Tito on your side this afternoon.

1378
01:11:52,867 --> 01:11:54,547
Speaker 5: No, I get there.

1379
01:11:54,587 --> 01:12:00,227
Speaker 15: I don't really talk to him anymore since he's a

1380
01:12:00,267 --> 01:12:03,067
Speaker 15: good fella, but yeah, you can't.

1381
01:12:03,107 --> 01:12:05,787
Speaker 4: You can't blame him for that, absolutely not.

1382
01:12:05,987 --> 01:12:08,107
Speaker 2: Hey, all the best for a great afternoon, a great occasion.

1383
01:12:08,147 --> 01:12:12,787
Speaker 2: Haven't the players talk about earning themselves another Monday? Somebody's

1384
01:12:12,787 --> 01:12:14,507
Speaker 2: going to this afternoon. Look forward to catching up a

1385
01:12:14,547 --> 01:12:14,987
Speaker 2: bit later on.

1386
01:12:15,707 --> 01:12:16,907
Speaker 15: Yeah, awesome, cheers Tony.

1387
01:12:17,227 --> 01:12:19,987
Speaker 4: Thanks Evan avanlea CEO of the Hurricanes. Stee go.

1388
01:12:20,027 --> 01:12:22,427
Speaker 2: If you're in Wellington and heading along, get there early.

1389
01:12:22,627 --> 01:12:25,827
Speaker 2: Gates open around half past two. There might be a

1390
01:12:25,907 --> 01:12:29,347
Speaker 2: touch early, but anything after about three point thirty and

1391
01:12:29,387 --> 01:12:31,547
Speaker 2: you're going to be finding yourself in a queue of

1392
01:12:31,627 --> 01:12:34,227
Speaker 2: some sort, whether it's to get in or to get

1393
01:12:34,267 --> 01:12:35,427
Speaker 2: food and beverage that sort of stuff.

1394
01:12:35,467 --> 01:12:36,107
Speaker 4: So yeah, get along.

1395
01:12:36,147 --> 01:12:39,067
Speaker 2: Early Wellingtonians, as Evan said, and I know this from experience,

1396
01:12:39,187 --> 01:12:41,107
Speaker 2: need to turn up late to things. Think they can

1397
01:12:41,187 --> 01:12:43,187
Speaker 2: just rock up ten minutes before and get an Okay.

1398
01:12:43,707 --> 01:12:45,987
Speaker 2: So yeah, high twenties by the sounds of it, maybe

1399
01:12:46,067 --> 01:12:47,987
Speaker 2: nudging thirty thousand with a decent walk up. But it's

1400
01:12:47,987 --> 01:12:50,587
Speaker 2: a nice day on Wellington. However, rain is forecast for

1401
01:12:50,587 --> 01:12:53,787
Speaker 2: a bit later on. Hopefully it holds off till after kickoff.

1402
01:12:53,827 --> 01:12:56,507
Speaker 2: Tony says, I'm text Jason can't wait for four thirty

1403
01:12:56,547 --> 01:12:58,587
Speaker 2: to ro all around. We've got the wood on the

1404
01:12:58,707 --> 01:13:01,827
Speaker 2: Chiefs and that's a big psychological barrier. This will be

1405
01:13:01,907 --> 01:13:04,027
Speaker 2: a high scoring game, but like most of the games

1406
01:13:04,107 --> 01:13:06,467
Speaker 2: between these two teams, will be close. Hang on to

1407
01:13:06,547 --> 01:13:08,867
Speaker 2: your seat, mate, I will be Tony. I will be

1408
01:13:08,947 --> 01:13:11,467
Speaker 2: hanging on to my seat. You Gander are twenty six

1409
01:13:11,627 --> 01:13:14,707
Speaker 2: for six batting first against New Zealand and the fourteenth

1410
01:13:14,787 --> 01:13:17,827
Speaker 2: over at the T twenty Cricket World Cup. When we

1411
01:13:17,947 --> 01:13:20,187
Speaker 2: come back, we're across the Tasman our regular catch up

1412
01:13:20,227 --> 01:13:23,067
Speaker 2: with Australian correspondent Adam Peacock right after this.

1413
01:13:24,547 --> 01:13:27,427
Speaker 1: You be the TMO have your say on eight hundred

1414
01:13:27,427 --> 01:13:32,267
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason him and GJ. Guvnerholmes,

1415
01:13:32,427 --> 01:13:35,747
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1416
01:13:36,227 --> 01:13:38,347
Speaker 2: Coming up quarter to two. Gunner says on text, always

1417
01:13:38,387 --> 01:13:39,867
Speaker 2: enjoy getting your text, Guner. Thanks made high.

1418
01:13:39,867 --> 01:13:40,107
Speaker 4: Pinty.

1419
01:13:40,107 --> 01:13:42,387
Speaker 2: Biggest concern for me is the Chiefs discipline when put

1420
01:13:42,467 --> 01:13:46,707
Speaker 2: under pressure. Firstly consistent penalties and eventually yellow cards. To me,

1421
01:13:46,947 --> 01:13:49,347
Speaker 2: these traits have been there since last year and still

1422
01:13:49,427 --> 01:13:53,187
Speaker 2: haven't been addressed, especially most evident in last year's final.

1423
01:13:53,347 --> 01:13:55,467
Speaker 2: If the Chiefs can control that part of their game,

1424
01:13:55,947 --> 01:13:58,227
Speaker 2: my Chiefs will go a long way to winning. Thanks

1425
01:13:58,267 --> 01:13:59,987
Speaker 2: gun Up, as I say, always good to hear from you.

1426
01:14:00,587 --> 01:14:02,587
Speaker 2: At the T twenty Cricket World Cup, you Gander are

1427
01:14:02,627 --> 01:14:06,467
Speaker 2: twenty seven for seven. Now twenty seven for seven. The

1428
01:14:06,547 --> 01:14:09,467
Speaker 2: magic number, according to producer Mark Kelly, is thirty nine.

1429
01:14:09,947 --> 01:14:12,547
Speaker 2: That's the number they got against the West Indies on Sunday.

1430
01:14:12,707 --> 01:14:16,107
Speaker 2: That's last Sunday. Their scores at this World Cup so

1431
01:14:16,187 --> 01:14:19,467
Speaker 2: far U Ganda fifty eight against Afghanistan. They actually beat

1432
01:14:19,467 --> 01:14:22,987
Speaker 2: Papa New Guinea scoring seventy eight for seven to overhaul

1433
01:14:23,067 --> 01:14:26,547
Speaker 2: pnng's seventy seven all out against the West and he's

1434
01:14:26,587 --> 01:14:30,587
Speaker 2: thirty nine and here twenty seven for seven batting first

1435
01:14:30,627 --> 01:14:33,627
Speaker 2: against New Zealand. It seems a material but they're into

1436
01:14:33,667 --> 01:14:38,347
Speaker 2: the fifteenth over text, tire Pony, I think you gan

1437
01:14:38,427 --> 01:14:43,227
Speaker 2: to have enough should they declare very good for the bowlers.

1438
01:14:43,667 --> 01:14:45,987
Speaker 2: These are great games to pad your bowling, because aren't they.

1439
01:14:46,027 --> 01:14:49,067
Speaker 2: Trent Bolt two for five, Tim Saudi one for three,

1440
01:14:49,227 --> 01:14:52,747
Speaker 2: Mitchell Sentna one for eight, Lackie Ferguson one for seven

1441
01:14:53,147 --> 01:14:55,147
Speaker 2: and Rachen Rivindra has two wickets.

1442
01:14:54,827 --> 01:14:55,347
Speaker 4: For one run.

1443
01:14:57,187 --> 01:14:58,667
Speaker 2: It's not going to matter though, is it. As we know,

1444
01:14:58,827 --> 01:15:01,267
Speaker 2: New Zealand are out of this T twenty Cricket World Cup. Actually,

1445
01:15:01,427 --> 01:15:03,427
Speaker 2: just to let you know, tomorrow on the show, Chris

1446
01:15:03,547 --> 01:15:05,787
Speaker 2: Ken's going to join us to talk about a cricket

1447
01:15:06,027 --> 01:15:09,587
Speaker 2: and what the shape of the New Zealand white ball

1448
01:15:09,667 --> 01:15:11,947
Speaker 2: side might be moving forward, and I'm sure you'll.

1449
01:15:11,787 --> 01:15:13,507
Speaker 4: Have some views on that as well.

1450
01:15:13,827 --> 01:15:15,867
Speaker 2: Time to catch up on sporting matters though from across

1451
01:15:15,907 --> 01:15:19,187
Speaker 2: the Tasman our Australian correspondent Adam Peacock is here. Adam,

1452
01:15:19,507 --> 01:15:20,907
Speaker 2: we'll talk about a cricket in a minute, but we've

1453
01:15:20,907 --> 01:15:23,867
Speaker 2: been chatting on the show today about the possibility of

1454
01:15:23,987 --> 01:15:26,187
Speaker 2: state of origin coming to New Zealand. How do you

1455
01:15:26,307 --> 01:15:29,707
Speaker 2: think that would be greeted by league fans on your

1456
01:15:29,787 --> 01:15:30,587
Speaker 2: side of the Tasman.

1457
01:15:32,347 --> 01:15:35,387
Speaker 20: I think we're okay with this, especially in New South

1458
01:15:35,427 --> 01:15:38,747
Speaker 20: Ives and Queensland where obviously it's the heartland of the sport.

1459
01:15:38,987 --> 01:15:42,987
Speaker 20: And let's face it, they do take in one of

1460
01:15:43,067 --> 01:15:45,347
Speaker 20: the extra games, so they's play one in Sydney, one

1461
01:15:45,427 --> 01:15:47,907
Speaker 20: in Brisbane and at the moment they're rotating the other one.

1462
01:15:47,947 --> 01:15:50,547
Speaker 20: This time it's Melbourne, has been Adelaide, has been Perth.

1463
01:15:51,027 --> 01:15:55,187
Speaker 20: I've seen no reason why Auckland or Wellington, wherever the

1464
01:15:55,227 --> 01:15:57,147
Speaker 20: stadium is big enough to the edind Park they'd want

1465
01:15:57,147 --> 01:16:00,307
Speaker 20: to have it at, would would not be able to

1466
01:16:00,867 --> 01:16:04,987
Speaker 20: facilitate holding Oledge. And the only thing is a kickoff time,

1467
01:16:05,347 --> 01:16:07,507
Speaker 20: and I reckon a kickoff time would have to be

1468
01:16:07,587 --> 01:16:10,147
Speaker 20: six pm, Which are you're going to get people there

1469
01:16:10,187 --> 01:16:12,387
Speaker 20: at six pm? And a windy Probably it's a one

1470
01:16:12,467 --> 01:16:15,787
Speaker 20: off special once every four years event, but not ideal.

1471
01:16:15,867 --> 01:16:18,507
Speaker 20: But I see no reason why it can't head over there.

1472
01:16:18,667 --> 01:16:21,867
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as far as the rotation of it is concerned, yeah,

1473
01:16:21,907 --> 01:16:24,547
Speaker 2: that's that's not new, is it. So I guess you know,

1474
01:16:24,667 --> 01:16:28,307
Speaker 2: going somewhere outside of the two participating states is not

1475
01:16:28,827 --> 01:16:29,427
Speaker 2: a new thing.

1476
01:16:29,667 --> 01:16:29,867
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1477
01:16:30,227 --> 01:16:30,427
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1478
01:16:30,707 --> 01:16:33,427
Speaker 2: And in terms of state of origin itself, I think

1479
01:16:33,467 --> 01:16:36,107
Speaker 2: over here, I mean we absolutely love it and the

1480
01:16:36,627 --> 01:16:38,507
Speaker 2: jam packed Australian sporting market.

1481
01:16:38,827 --> 01:16:40,507
Speaker 4: How much cut through do state of origin get.

1482
01:16:42,707 --> 01:16:45,707
Speaker 20: Yeah, it gets a little bit, But if you gain

1483
01:16:45,787 --> 01:16:49,227
Speaker 20: to Melbourne, it's kind of like the surface rolls in, Yes,

1484
01:16:49,307 --> 01:16:51,627
Speaker 20: it's here, and then it rolls out again. Saying with Adelaide,

1485
01:16:52,747 --> 01:16:54,827
Speaker 20: Perth's a little different. I feel it's a little different

1486
01:16:54,867 --> 01:16:56,227
Speaker 20: over there. I think it has a bit more of

1487
01:16:56,267 --> 01:16:59,547
Speaker 20: a stick for rugby league in terms of attention and

1488
01:16:59,987 --> 01:17:01,987
Speaker 20: you know, flow on and I think it will have

1489
01:17:02,107 --> 01:17:04,107
Speaker 20: that effect in New Zealand make it even bigger because

1490
01:17:04,147 --> 01:17:08,187
Speaker 20: the wars are going so well. So yeah, if they're

1491
01:17:08,227 --> 01:17:11,027
Speaker 20: looking to grow the game and not just take a

1492
01:17:11,107 --> 01:17:13,227
Speaker 20: check and then move on, I think New Zealand is

1493
01:17:13,627 --> 01:17:14,667
Speaker 20: a really viable option.

1494
01:17:14,787 --> 01:17:15,107
Speaker 10: All right.

1495
01:17:15,147 --> 01:17:17,427
Speaker 4: We look forward to progress in that regard.

1496
01:17:17,907 --> 01:17:21,547
Speaker 2: Arguably Australia's biggest sporting star Sam Kerk, she made an

1497
01:17:21,547 --> 01:17:23,027
Speaker 2: announcement about her future this week.

1498
01:17:23,067 --> 01:17:24,427
Speaker 4: What were the details of that.

1499
01:17:25,307 --> 01:17:28,067
Speaker 20: Yeah, She's signed on to anomber two years at Chelsea,

1500
01:17:28,907 --> 01:17:29,627
Speaker 20: which is good news.

1501
01:17:29,707 --> 01:17:30,107
Speaker 15: For Chelsea.

1502
01:17:30,227 --> 01:17:32,787
Speaker 20: Good news for Sam. I think she obviously loves living

1503
01:17:32,827 --> 01:17:36,867
Speaker 20: in London and getting around town without being recognized. Look,

1504
01:17:36,947 --> 01:17:39,667
Speaker 20: if she lived in Australia, she'd be walking down the

1505
01:17:39,707 --> 01:17:42,907
Speaker 20: street everyone know who she is. And in terms of

1506
01:17:42,947 --> 01:17:45,867
Speaker 20: her ability, I don't think anyone could come near to

1507
01:17:45,987 --> 01:17:48,947
Speaker 20: what her pay packet would be. So it's great for

1508
01:17:49,067 --> 01:17:51,107
Speaker 20: Chelsea that they're losing their manager or have lost their

1509
01:17:51,147 --> 01:17:54,547
Speaker 20: manager and she's moved on, so new manager that Sam

1510
01:17:54,587 --> 01:17:56,467
Speaker 20: wants to stick over there. There was rumors that she

1511
01:17:56,587 --> 01:17:59,667
Speaker 20: might have been on the move, but no, they've stuck

1512
01:17:59,707 --> 01:18:01,347
Speaker 20: with her and I think it's fair as well because

1513
01:18:02,027 --> 01:18:04,547
Speaker 20: from Sam's point of view to resign because they've supported

1514
01:18:04,547 --> 01:18:06,907
Speaker 20: her through a big injury at the Martent. She'll be

1515
01:18:07,027 --> 01:18:10,187
Speaker 20: back at some point next season after the knee injury.

1516
01:18:10,307 --> 01:18:12,507
Speaker 20: But yeah, good news for her to lock up her

1517
01:18:12,587 --> 01:18:15,187
Speaker 20: security and going nowhere. It seems for two years.

1518
01:18:15,187 --> 01:18:17,707
Speaker 4: This announcement was made on social media. Was it almost

1519
01:18:17,787 --> 01:18:19,067
Speaker 4: like a two parts or wasn't it.

1520
01:18:19,107 --> 01:18:21,147
Speaker 2: There was a video that came out and it kind

1521
01:18:21,187 --> 01:18:23,507
Speaker 2: of suggested that she might be moving and then the

1522
01:18:23,787 --> 01:18:25,787
Speaker 2: follow up video had her confirmed as staying.

1523
01:18:25,867 --> 01:18:27,147
Speaker 4: Is that how it played out?

1524
01:18:27,787 --> 01:18:27,987
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1525
01:18:28,067 --> 01:18:31,707
Speaker 20: A little bit sneaky that, but that's how you get attention,

1526
01:18:31,827 --> 01:18:35,227
Speaker 20: I guess. And on social media. Everyone's looking at social

1527
01:18:35,307 --> 01:18:38,507
Speaker 20: media all the time, and everyone's got the memory bank

1528
01:18:38,547 --> 01:18:40,387
Speaker 20: of a goldfish when they look at stuff on deck

1529
01:18:41,587 --> 01:18:43,227
Speaker 20: to make it stand out. It wasn't the best thing

1530
01:18:43,267 --> 01:18:44,827
Speaker 20: I saw on social media this week. I think the

1531
01:18:44,907 --> 01:18:47,427
Speaker 20: best thing is that the added ass commercial for the

1532
01:18:47,507 --> 01:18:51,747
Speaker 20: Euros for England and Jude Bellingham and repurposing Hey Jude

1533
01:18:51,747 --> 01:18:53,987
Speaker 20: by the Beatles. I don't think it's going to change anything.

1534
01:18:53,987 --> 01:18:55,787
Speaker 20: I think they're going to have more heartbreak. But anyway,

1535
01:18:55,827 --> 01:18:58,707
Speaker 20: it was a nice little lad true I enjoyed that

1536
01:18:58,787 --> 01:18:59,107
Speaker 20: as well.

1537
01:18:59,187 --> 01:19:01,467
Speaker 2: I did, and I share your view on how this

1538
01:19:01,627 --> 01:19:05,267
Speaker 2: might end for England. Back to your top sports people

1539
01:19:05,427 --> 01:19:09,147
Speaker 2: are swimmer Arian Tipmas breaking the two hundred meter freestyle

1540
01:19:09,187 --> 01:19:12,387
Speaker 2: world record Wednesday night at your Olympic selection trials in Brisbane.

1541
01:19:12,627 --> 01:19:14,947
Speaker 2: She now has the two hundred and four hundred freestyle

1542
01:19:14,987 --> 01:19:18,867
Speaker 2: world records and is reigning Olympic champion and both of them.

1543
01:19:19,027 --> 01:19:21,747
Speaker 2: How what a favorite is Arin Tipmas for a double

1544
01:19:22,187 --> 01:19:23,747
Speaker 2: dose of gold in the pulled in Paris.

1545
01:19:24,587 --> 01:19:29,547
Speaker 20: Yeah, she's got a busy schedule again and everyone's coming

1546
01:19:29,667 --> 01:19:33,387
Speaker 20: up to her, there's a Canadian swimmer and Summer Macintosh's

1547
01:19:33,507 --> 01:19:36,147
Speaker 20: caddie or Decky is still around. And there's moll O'Callahan

1548
01:19:36,267 --> 01:19:39,387
Speaker 20: in her own backyard. Literally they trained together, who pushed

1549
01:19:39,387 --> 01:19:41,507
Speaker 20: her all away in that two hundred. Molly won the

1550
01:19:41,587 --> 01:19:45,747
Speaker 20: one hundred last night in a stacked field, which was

1551
01:19:45,827 --> 01:19:48,787
Speaker 20: basically an Olympic final. And you had Emma McCann, who's

1552
01:19:48,827 --> 01:19:52,507
Speaker 20: the reigning one hundred champ in the freestyle. She finished

1553
01:19:52,507 --> 01:19:54,787
Speaker 20: sixth in that final. So we're going to have a

1554
01:19:55,147 --> 01:19:57,747
Speaker 20: I mean, you look at guaranteed gold medals. I don't

1555
01:19:57,747 --> 01:20:00,587
Speaker 20: know if New Zealand I've got one heading in someone

1556
01:20:00,627 --> 01:20:02,347
Speaker 20: who literally has to turn up or a team that

1557
01:20:02,467 --> 01:20:04,787
Speaker 20: literally has to turn up, but we've got one in

1558
01:20:04,827 --> 01:20:08,707
Speaker 20: the four by one hundred women's relay for for the

1559
01:20:08,747 --> 01:20:13,107
Speaker 20: Paris Olympics. That I just got that cupboard. But back

1560
01:20:13,147 --> 01:20:16,987
Speaker 20: to Arian, Yeah, she's she's so good. She just aimed

1561
01:20:17,067 --> 01:20:18,707
Speaker 20: up in that two hundred and broke the world record.

1562
01:20:18,747 --> 01:20:20,827
Speaker 20: I think it's the only world record of the week

1563
01:20:20,907 --> 01:20:23,667
Speaker 20: so far. It's been great. Let's captured everyone's attention again.

1564
01:20:23,707 --> 01:20:25,427
Speaker 20: The swimmers would love our swimming when it comes to

1565
01:20:25,467 --> 01:20:28,627
Speaker 20: the Olympics. Commort Games. So yeah, she's she's the star,

1566
01:20:28,787 --> 01:20:30,587
Speaker 20: she's the headline actor of that team.

1567
01:20:30,747 --> 01:20:33,347
Speaker 2: O to have a oh, to have a guaranteed gold medal, Aim,

1568
01:20:33,387 --> 01:20:37,187
Speaker 2: I don't know whether I can well, as you said it,

1569
01:20:37,267 --> 01:20:39,187
Speaker 2: I was trying to think that there are a couple

1570
01:20:39,267 --> 01:20:42,907
Speaker 2: that we're pretty confident about, but nobody who we would say,

1571
01:20:43,067 --> 01:20:45,147
Speaker 2: you know, wrap it up, stick a bow on it.

1572
01:20:45,227 --> 01:20:47,227
Speaker 4: But you will see it. We'll see what happens when

1573
01:20:47,747 --> 01:20:48,827
Speaker 4: when the games roll around.

1574
01:20:48,947 --> 01:20:49,067
Speaker 1: Now.

1575
01:20:49,147 --> 01:20:53,107
Speaker 2: Of course, unlike US Australia safely through to the Super Rights,

1576
01:20:53,667 --> 01:20:55,067
Speaker 2: the Cricket World Cup has been.

1577
01:20:55,027 --> 01:20:57,107
Speaker 4: Disastrous for our cricketers.

1578
01:20:57,187 --> 01:20:59,667
Speaker 2: Ossie meantime three from three, Another World Cup coming your

1579
01:20:59,747 --> 01:21:01,667
Speaker 2: way in the next three or four.

1580
01:21:01,507 --> 01:21:05,387
Speaker 20: Weeks potentially, But now it gets a bit difficult. The

1581
01:21:05,467 --> 01:21:08,227
Speaker 20: pool stage was England was our only test. That we

1582
01:21:08,307 --> 01:21:11,627
Speaker 20: play Scotland tomorrow, so they're improving. We should get past them.

1583
01:21:12,067 --> 01:21:14,627
Speaker 20: We could manufacture a result and mean that, you know,

1584
01:21:14,787 --> 01:21:16,707
Speaker 20: we happen to drop one and then Scotland get in

1585
01:21:16,787 --> 01:21:18,347
Speaker 20: and England are out. But I don't think they're going

1586
01:21:18,387 --> 01:21:19,867
Speaker 20: to do that. That's been a bit of a talk

1587
01:21:20,427 --> 01:21:23,707
Speaker 20: out of more out of England this week than out

1588
01:21:23,707 --> 01:21:25,627
Speaker 20: of here. It just goes to show their psyche over

1589
01:21:25,667 --> 01:21:28,107
Speaker 20: there that they get all jumpy when something like this

1590
01:21:28,507 --> 01:21:31,787
Speaker 20: could occur. And Josh Haswood said something sneaky to press

1591
01:21:31,827 --> 01:21:34,747
Speaker 20: conference the other day basically, oh yeah, we could be

1592
01:21:34,827 --> 01:21:37,427
Speaker 20: in everyone interesting if we were out. I think it

1593
01:21:37,507 --> 01:21:41,427
Speaker 20: was art joking but maybe. But yeah, our boys are

1594
01:21:41,467 --> 01:21:43,747
Speaker 20: going well. But the real stuff starts now with the

1595
01:21:43,787 --> 01:21:47,387
Speaker 20: separ eight, so it gets a lot harder. Pitches are tricky,

1596
01:21:48,507 --> 01:21:50,587
Speaker 20: there's no real consistency to a lot of them, so

1597
01:21:50,987 --> 01:21:52,187
Speaker 20: it won't be an easy one to win.

1598
01:21:52,707 --> 01:21:54,427
Speaker 4: The real stuff starts now, not for us.

1599
01:21:56,827 --> 01:21:57,387
Speaker 11: In the moment.

1600
01:21:57,827 --> 01:22:00,587
Speaker 4: Oh, don't worry, it's been it's been examined and forensic

1601
01:22:00,667 --> 01:22:02,307
Speaker 4: detail over here. Thought you worry about that?

1602
01:22:02,667 --> 01:22:02,787
Speaker 9: Hi?

1603
01:22:03,227 --> 01:22:05,587
Speaker 2: Great to ten has always have a great weekend. We'll

1604
01:22:05,627 --> 01:22:06,707
Speaker 2: catch up again nixt Saturday.

1605
01:22:07,347 --> 01:22:09,027
Speaker 9: You too, Pony, Thanks mate, Thanks mate.

1606
01:22:09,027 --> 01:22:11,907
Speaker 2: That's Adam Peacock, Roustratian correspondent. He joins us around this

1607
01:22:11,987 --> 01:22:15,427
Speaker 2: time every Saturday afternoon. You gander a thirty seven for

1608
01:22:15,587 --> 01:22:18,707
Speaker 2: seven after sixteen overs back in a moment on weekend Sport.

1609
01:22:19,587 --> 01:22:23,227
Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world

1610
01:22:23,427 --> 01:22:26,707
Speaker 1: weekends for it with Jason Pie they call eight hundred

1611
01:22:26,707 --> 01:22:28,587
Speaker 1: and eighty eighty News Talks.

1612
01:22:28,347 --> 01:22:32,067
Speaker 2: NB four to two Man Afternoon's Flying after two o'clock.

1613
01:22:32,147 --> 01:22:36,627
Speaker 2: The Warriors storm tonight seven point thirty. The last time

1614
01:22:36,667 --> 01:22:39,267
Speaker 2: the Warriors big Melbourne Storm in a game of NRAL

1615
01:22:39,347 --> 01:22:42,627
Speaker 2: Rugby League was twenty fifteen. Can they snap that tonight?

1616
01:22:42,867 --> 01:22:46,667
Speaker 2: The tab has them favorite over the Melbourne Storm. Jackson

1617
01:22:46,747 --> 01:22:49,227
Speaker 2: Ford's on the show after two o'clock to have a

1618
01:22:49,307 --> 01:22:51,387
Speaker 2: chat about that, and we'll go to the US Golf

1619
01:22:51,427 --> 01:22:52,707
Speaker 2: Open at Pinehurst.

1620
01:22:52,827 --> 01:22:53,227
Speaker 4: Number two.

1621
01:22:53,307 --> 01:22:56,067
Speaker 2: Ryan Fox has made the cut. Who's looking good? Ossie

1622
01:22:56,107 --> 01:22:57,147
Speaker 2: journalist Mike Clayton.

1623
01:22:58,627 --> 01:23:02,787
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

1624
01:23:03,587 --> 01:23:08,467
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1625
01:23:08,627 --> 01:23:12,387
Speaker 1: Weekend Scored with Jason Vine on your home of Sport

1626
01:23:12,867 --> 01:23:13,467
Speaker 1: News Talks.

1627
01:23:13,507 --> 01:23:13,947
Speaker 16: It'd been.

1628
01:23:15,627 --> 01:23:17,627
Speaker 4: A seven past two until the last hour of the show.

1629
01:23:17,667 --> 01:23:19,507
Speaker 2: Then we'll hand it over to Tim Beveridge for the

1630
01:23:19,587 --> 01:23:23,267
Speaker 2: Saturday edition of the Weekend Collective. I'm Jason Pine, Mark

1631
01:23:23,347 --> 01:23:27,147
Speaker 2: Kelly is here too. We're here till three Warriors storm tonight.

1632
01:23:27,667 --> 01:23:31,467
Speaker 2: Mount Smart's there to be rocking, another sold out occasion

1633
01:23:31,547 --> 01:23:35,987
Speaker 2: for Warriors fans to enjoy. Will they Warriors fans enjoy

1634
01:23:36,067 --> 01:23:38,707
Speaker 2: their first win over the Melbourne Storm in the last

1635
01:23:38,827 --> 01:23:42,907
Speaker 2: fifteen encounters dating back to twenty fifteen. That was the

1636
01:23:42,987 --> 01:23:46,147
Speaker 2: last time the Warriors beat the Storm twenty fifteen. The

1637
01:23:46,227 --> 01:23:49,427
Speaker 2: Storm have since won fifteen straight matches. But I just

1638
01:23:49,547 --> 01:23:52,707
Speaker 2: checked the tab odds before and the Warriors are favorites

1639
01:23:53,627 --> 01:23:55,787
Speaker 2: to beat the Storm off the back of three straight victories.

1640
01:23:55,827 --> 01:23:58,667
Speaker 2: Of course, the return of Sean Johnson and Tahoo Harris,

1641
01:23:58,667 --> 01:24:01,427
Speaker 2: among others. Jackson Ford has played every game for the

1642
01:24:01,467 --> 01:24:03,387
Speaker 2: Warriors the season he's with us. In just a moment

1643
01:24:03,747 --> 01:24:05,987
Speaker 2: ahead of this one, then we'll get you to Pinehurst.

1644
01:24:06,027 --> 01:24:08,987
Speaker 2: Number two for the US Golf Open, Ryan Fox has

1645
01:24:09,027 --> 01:24:10,787
Speaker 2: achieved his seventh.

1646
01:24:10,667 --> 01:24:14,027
Speaker 4: Straight cut at a major. He's through. A couple of

1647
01:24:14,067 --> 01:24:15,187
Speaker 4: big names have missed out.

1648
01:24:15,707 --> 01:24:19,347
Speaker 2: We'll talk to Mike Clayton, who is both a golf

1649
01:24:19,427 --> 01:24:22,587
Speaker 2: course designer and golf journalist, to wrap the first couple

1650
01:24:22,627 --> 01:24:24,587
Speaker 2: of rounds and look ahead to prospects for the rest

1651
01:24:24,747 --> 01:24:28,507
Speaker 2: of the US Golf Open. And well, the black Caps

1652
01:24:28,587 --> 01:24:32,507
Speaker 2: might not be progressing through to the Super eight stages

1653
01:24:32,547 --> 01:24:35,267
Speaker 2: of this Cricket World Cup, but there's another New Zealand

1654
01:24:35,307 --> 01:24:38,667
Speaker 2: cricket side shortly heading off to their World Cup. It

1655
01:24:38,827 --> 01:24:43,467
Speaker 2: is the New Zealand over seventies cricket team heading to

1656
01:24:43,907 --> 01:24:47,347
Speaker 2: their World Cup in England to take on over seventies

1657
01:24:47,507 --> 01:24:51,987
Speaker 2: nations from around the cricketing world. Jeremy Wilson as chairman

1658
01:24:52,027 --> 01:24:54,667
Speaker 2: of New Zealand Veterans Cricket. He's part of the touring party.

1659
01:24:55,067 --> 01:24:57,187
Speaker 2: He's going to join us before three o'clock for a

1660
01:24:57,307 --> 01:25:00,787
Speaker 2: yarn about that. Speaking of the t twenty Cricket World Cup,

1661
01:25:01,307 --> 01:25:04,507
Speaker 2: Uganda have been bowled out for forty so they've got

1662
01:25:04,587 --> 01:25:07,827
Speaker 2: past their lowest ever or at a World Cup thirty nine,

1663
01:25:07,907 --> 01:25:11,107
Speaker 2: but only just all out forty. So New Zealand will

1664
01:25:11,147 --> 01:25:13,547
Speaker 2: come out in just a moment and chase down forty one,

1665
01:25:13,627 --> 01:25:15,227
Speaker 2: or attempt to chase down. You'd have to think they'll

1666
01:25:15,267 --> 01:25:19,467
Speaker 2: get there. Okay, even given the tournament so far, chase

1667
01:25:19,507 --> 01:25:21,507
Speaker 2: down forty one to win. As I say, it won't matter.

1668
01:25:22,227 --> 01:25:24,987
Speaker 2: They can't make it through to the Super eights round.

1669
01:25:25,107 --> 01:25:27,467
Speaker 2: Now they'll play their final game against up On New Guinea,

1670
01:25:27,507 --> 01:25:29,307
Speaker 2: then come home. We'll have a good chat about the

1671
01:25:29,307 --> 01:25:31,427
Speaker 2: cricket tomorrow. You might have some thoughts about the way forward.

1672
01:25:31,507 --> 01:25:32,107
Speaker 4: I certainly have.

1673
01:25:32,427 --> 01:25:34,267
Speaker 2: Chris Ken's on the show tomorrow as well to talk

1674
01:25:34,307 --> 01:25:37,787
Speaker 2: about that bowling figures treat Bolt two for seven, Tim

1675
01:25:37,867 --> 01:25:40,707
Speaker 2: Soudy four overs, three for four, Mitchell sat in A

1676
01:25:40,747 --> 01:25:43,707
Speaker 2: two for eight, Lacky Ferguson one for nine and rich

1677
01:25:43,787 --> 01:25:45,867
Speaker 2: and Ravendra two for nine. So that we'll get certainly

1678
01:25:45,947 --> 01:25:49,227
Speaker 2: shed round. As far as New Zealand we're concerned today.

1679
01:25:49,267 --> 01:25:51,747
Speaker 2: We'll keep an eye on New Zealand's run chase. You'd

1680
01:25:51,787 --> 01:25:54,387
Speaker 2: have to think that they'll get that done before we

1681
01:25:54,867 --> 01:25:57,107
Speaker 2: close our show at three o'clock. But with the time

1682
01:25:57,147 --> 01:26:01,467
Speaker 2: approaching ten past two, it is time, as we always do,

1683
01:26:01,787 --> 01:26:04,587
Speaker 2: to catch you up with the stuff you might have missed.

1684
01:26:05,547 --> 01:26:08,187
Speaker 2: We call it and she missed it, and we cover

1685
01:26:08,307 --> 01:26:10,347
Speaker 2: off as much as we can in a short period

1686
01:26:10,387 --> 01:26:13,867
Speaker 2: of time. Starting at the Euros, Germany, the hosts have

1687
01:26:14,067 --> 01:26:17,787
Speaker 2: crushed ten man Scotland five to one in the tournament

1688
01:26:17,907 --> 01:26:20,587
Speaker 2: opener in Munich. Florrie and Vertz opened the scoring in

1689
01:26:20,667 --> 01:26:27,947
Speaker 2: the tenth minute, space for the past, Jamal Mushiala extending

1690
01:26:27,947 --> 01:26:29,147
Speaker 2: the lead nine minutes later.

1691
01:26:34,107 --> 01:26:36,587
Speaker 4: And m ray Chan completing the route and added time

1692
01:26:36,947 --> 01:26:40,787
Speaker 4: suit tenous from every soon.

1693
01:26:41,827 --> 01:26:43,987
Speaker 2: Yes, a five to one to Germany over Scotland. Scotland

1694
01:26:43,987 --> 01:26:47,027
Speaker 2: played half the match downer player after Ryan Portius was

1695
01:26:47,067 --> 01:26:50,787
Speaker 2: sent off just before halftime to the NRAL. The Cowboys

1696
01:26:50,907 --> 01:26:53,427
Speaker 2: bouncing back from their defeat to the Warriors last time

1697
01:26:53,507 --> 01:26:56,027
Speaker 2: out with a thirty four to sixteen victory over the

1698
01:26:56,147 --> 01:26:57,227
Speaker 2: Raiders last night.

1699
01:27:00,227 --> 01:27:04,707
Speaker 7: Fell magnificent card fell con tolt his way over the line.

1700
01:27:06,427 --> 01:27:09,307
Speaker 7: It's still got of carle Felt squeezes that.

1701
01:27:09,467 --> 01:27:13,667
Speaker 2: Call over and the rabbit Os continuing their mid season resurgence,

1702
01:27:13,747 --> 01:27:16,627
Speaker 2: winning a third straight match twenty two twelve against the

1703
01:27:16,667 --> 01:27:20,387
Speaker 2: Broncos in tarential rain in Sydney, walk.

1704
01:27:20,147 --> 01:27:26,787
Speaker 7: Gun mits all our lovely ball, Alex tufton the records,

1705
01:27:26,947 --> 01:27:29,827
Speaker 7: can't fine tumbling goose loose legend.

1706
01:27:31,267 --> 01:27:35,867
Speaker 4: That is now the most tribes by a fire at

1707
01:27:35,907 --> 01:27:37,427
Speaker 4: a single club here.

1708
01:27:37,507 --> 01:27:40,707
Speaker 2: That was Alex Johnston's one hundred and ninety first try

1709
01:27:40,787 --> 01:27:43,187
Speaker 2: for the rabbit Os, taking him past Billy Slater with

1710
01:27:43,307 --> 01:27:46,347
Speaker 2: the most for one NRL club. Closer to home, the

1711
01:27:46,427 --> 01:27:49,667
Speaker 2: Tartanaky Airs have handed the Southland Sharks are ninety four

1712
01:27:49,667 --> 01:27:52,667
Speaker 2: to sixty one hiding and then New Zealand National Basketball

1713
01:27:52,707 --> 01:27:54,787
Speaker 2: League clash In and Bicargo rw it on the break

1714
01:27:54,867 --> 01:27:58,747
Speaker 2: another two for him dig start tonight for Sam Frawling

1715
01:27:59,627 --> 01:28:03,107
Speaker 2: what Wednesday night away? Forget about it, because he has

1716
01:28:03,187 --> 01:28:04,947
Speaker 2: come out and started on fire.

1717
01:28:05,027 --> 01:28:05,787
Speaker 4: He's up to ten.

1718
01:28:06,027 --> 01:28:06,227
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1719
01:28:06,347 --> 01:28:08,907
Speaker 2: Sam Fowling leading the way thirty one points and six rebounds.

1720
01:28:08,947 --> 01:28:12,067
Speaker 2: Tatanhaki up to third on the ladder behind Canterbury and Auckland.

1721
01:28:12,507 --> 01:28:16,227
Speaker 2: And Afghanistan have thrashed Papa New Guinea by seven wickets

1722
01:28:16,267 --> 01:28:18,627
Speaker 2: to move into the Super eight stages at the T

1723
01:28:18,787 --> 01:28:19,827
Speaker 2: twenty Cricket World Cup.

1724
01:28:19,907 --> 01:28:21,227
Speaker 4: Set just ninety six for.

1725
01:28:21,347 --> 01:28:25,827
Speaker 2: Victory, Afghanistan strolled to the target with almost five overs

1726
01:28:25,947 --> 01:28:26,387
Speaker 2: to spare.

1727
01:28:26,707 --> 01:28:28,707
Speaker 4: It's gone high up in the air, there's a field

1728
01:28:28,907 --> 01:28:29,507
Speaker 4: underneath it.

1729
01:28:29,707 --> 01:28:32,547
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter. Goes all the way for six and

1730
01:28:32,747 --> 01:28:33,347
Speaker 6: what away?

1731
01:28:33,547 --> 01:28:35,507
Speaker 4: But gun is done to charge into.

1732
01:28:35,427 --> 01:28:38,387
Speaker 5: The super eights and not New Zealand Arts of the

1733
01:28:38,747 --> 01:28:41,627
Speaker 5: ICC Men's T twenty World Cup.

1734
01:28:42,987 --> 01:28:46,587
Speaker 4: The biggest things in sport are on Weekend Sport with.

1735
01:28:46,707 --> 01:28:50,827
Speaker 1: Jason Pain and GJ. Gunnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted home

1736
01:28:50,867 --> 01:28:52,267
Speaker 1: builder News Dogs they'd.

1737
01:28:52,107 --> 01:28:54,107
Speaker 4: Be coming up thirteen past two.

1738
01:28:54,267 --> 01:28:57,107
Speaker 2: Massive occasion in coming at a sold out Mount Smart

1739
01:28:57,147 --> 01:29:01,547
Speaker 2: Stadium tonight in NRL Round fifteen action. The Warriors looking

1740
01:29:01,667 --> 01:29:04,787
Speaker 2: for a fourth straight victory up against the top of

1741
01:29:04,947 --> 01:29:09,547
Speaker 2: the table. Melbourne Storm Warriors second rower Jackson Ford is

1742
01:29:09,587 --> 01:29:11,907
Speaker 2: one of only two players to start every game for

1743
01:29:11,987 --> 01:29:12,987
Speaker 2: the Warriors this season.

1744
01:29:13,227 --> 01:29:23,867
Speaker 6: Tot's on the left the side Jison over the Warriors yep.

1745
01:29:23,947 --> 01:29:27,467
Speaker 2: Fourteen starts from fourteen games for Jackson Ford this season.

1746
01:29:27,587 --> 01:29:30,707
Speaker 2: The other player to start every game Mitch Barnett. Jackson,

1747
01:29:30,707 --> 01:29:32,707
Speaker 2: thanks for taking the time for a chat. What has

1748
01:29:32,827 --> 01:29:38,267
Speaker 2: been different these last three games with three straight victories

1749
01:29:38,307 --> 01:29:38,867
Speaker 2: for the Warriors?

1750
01:29:41,107 --> 01:29:44,427
Speaker 19: Not real chort to be honest. We've had a game

1751
01:29:44,467 --> 01:29:46,627
Speaker 19: against Penneth, we had a bit of a you know,

1752
01:29:47,107 --> 01:29:49,307
Speaker 19: fety injuries and that I think the boosters sort of

1753
01:29:49,867 --> 01:29:51,827
Speaker 19: thought it's now whenever you know, we're sort of slipping

1754
01:29:51,867 --> 01:29:54,307
Speaker 19: down the end of the table. We've got to say

1755
01:29:54,427 --> 01:29:56,747
Speaker 19: it to play for each week, but I think you're

1756
01:29:57,147 --> 01:30:01,107
Speaker 19: some games there they must wins for us. But there

1757
01:30:01,147 --> 01:30:03,027
Speaker 19: was definitely a lot of confidence now in the boys

1758
01:30:03,067 --> 01:30:04,707
Speaker 19: and hopefully we can start to get a roll on

1759
01:30:04,827 --> 01:30:07,707
Speaker 19: over these next few weeks and start to yeah, just

1760
01:30:07,947 --> 01:30:08,987
Speaker 19: climb that table.

1761
01:30:09,387 --> 01:30:10,947
Speaker 4: Last weekends went over the Cowboys.

1762
01:30:11,027 --> 01:30:14,107
Speaker 2: What forty two twelve felt like a real statement that

1763
01:30:14,227 --> 01:30:15,627
Speaker 2: the Warriors are back on track?

1764
01:30:15,987 --> 01:30:18,147
Speaker 4: Is that how it felt internally.

1765
01:30:19,827 --> 01:30:21,907
Speaker 19: Yeah, in a way like I feel like our attacks

1766
01:30:21,907 --> 01:30:23,987
Speaker 19: sort of coming back and our defense is coming back.

1767
01:30:24,907 --> 01:30:26,587
Speaker 19: I feel like you're sort of starting to see how

1768
01:30:26,667 --> 01:30:30,227
Speaker 19: we can play now. I think we've been in a

1769
01:30:30,307 --> 01:30:32,707
Speaker 19: bit of a slumpet. I know we can definitely play,

1770
01:30:32,747 --> 01:30:36,627
Speaker 19: you know, that nice attacking sort of and defensive game,

1771
01:30:36,747 --> 01:30:39,467
Speaker 19: and we're just trying to improve each week, and it's

1772
01:30:39,467 --> 01:30:42,267
Speaker 19: good to see that we're getting some results as a team.

1773
01:30:42,387 --> 01:30:45,787
Speaker 2: How did you handle the challenges of going five straight

1774
01:30:45,867 --> 01:30:48,707
Speaker 2: games without a win from mid April into mid May.

1775
01:30:49,907 --> 01:30:52,307
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's tough, like when you're in that sort of slump,

1776
01:30:52,347 --> 01:30:54,667
Speaker 19: but you don't know, you don't sort of know exactly

1777
01:30:54,747 --> 01:30:58,347
Speaker 19: why you're sort of losing, and you know, he's got

1778
01:30:58,427 --> 01:31:00,867
Speaker 19: to sort of just keep coming into training after a

1779
01:31:00,987 --> 01:31:04,267
Speaker 19: loss and sort of just looking forward to that next win.

1780
01:31:04,387 --> 01:31:06,547
Speaker 19: But when you don't get that next win, you've got

1781
01:31:06,587 --> 01:31:08,787
Speaker 19: to come in again, and you know, you're Batters and Brews,

1782
01:31:08,867 --> 01:31:11,467
Speaker 19: and you know, we had plenty of injuries after each game,

1783
01:31:11,547 --> 01:31:13,747
Speaker 19: but we you know, you just got to keep getting

1784
01:31:13,747 --> 01:31:15,467
Speaker 19: in there, ripping in and just sort of believing that

1785
01:31:15,587 --> 01:31:16,707
Speaker 19: we're going to turn it around.

1786
01:31:16,947 --> 01:31:20,507
Speaker 2: Well, it certainly has come right last weekend you move

1787
01:31:20,547 --> 01:31:23,627
Speaker 2: from the second row into into prop does that change much,

1788
01:31:24,347 --> 01:31:27,747
Speaker 2: you know, as far as the specific challenges or requirements

1789
01:31:27,747 --> 01:31:28,747
Speaker 2: of that role are concerned.

1790
01:31:30,267 --> 01:31:33,027
Speaker 19: Yeah, I felt like I was pretty comfortable with, like

1791
01:31:33,387 --> 01:31:37,027
Speaker 19: getting comfortable with that back row spot. But now you know,

1792
01:31:37,147 --> 01:31:40,467
Speaker 19: there's some sort of different parts in the game that

1793
01:31:40,547 --> 01:31:44,427
Speaker 19: I've got to sort of focus on. Like it's just

1794
01:31:46,147 --> 01:31:47,387
Speaker 19: I don't know, in a way, it sort of it

1795
01:31:47,467 --> 01:31:51,067
Speaker 19: becomes a bit more energy efficient, like when you're in

1796
01:31:51,147 --> 01:31:53,787
Speaker 19: that spot, like when you're not thinking clear and like

1797
01:31:53,827 --> 01:31:55,907
Speaker 19: you don't really know what like you're in different positions,

1798
01:31:55,947 --> 01:31:57,707
Speaker 19: it sort of takes it out of you a bit.

1799
01:31:57,787 --> 01:32:01,627
Speaker 19: But just the main thing just is tackle and keep

1800
01:32:01,707 --> 01:32:04,147
Speaker 19: running hard in the in the middle, it's just a

1801
01:32:04,307 --> 01:32:06,987
Speaker 19: sort of washing machine, as they say, like, yeah, just

1802
01:32:07,147 --> 01:32:09,667
Speaker 19: trying to win every tackle and there's a lot of

1803
01:32:09,747 --> 01:32:12,427
Speaker 19: tackles in there, so just got to sort of keep going.

1804
01:32:12,667 --> 01:32:15,747
Speaker 19: But yeah, I've been liking it. It's been been fun

1805
01:32:15,827 --> 01:32:17,587
Speaker 19: and it's good to see we've been getting some wins,

1806
01:32:17,627 --> 01:32:18,507
Speaker 19: so it's been good.

1807
01:32:18,667 --> 01:32:19,147
Speaker 4: Good stuff.

1808
01:32:19,307 --> 01:32:24,627
Speaker 2: Those collision areas, it must take something pretty strong mentally

1809
01:32:24,827 --> 01:32:28,627
Speaker 2: to want to, you know, tackle after tackle game after

1810
01:32:28,747 --> 01:32:31,427
Speaker 2: game go into those collision areas. Is that Is that

1811
01:32:31,587 --> 01:32:33,747
Speaker 2: something that you've developed over your career or have you

1812
01:32:33,827 --> 01:32:34,507
Speaker 2: always had it?

1813
01:32:38,667 --> 01:32:40,387
Speaker 19: I don't know, a bit of both. Probably Like it's

1814
01:32:40,507 --> 01:32:43,587
Speaker 19: it's definitely pretty tough. Like I can't say if I

1815
01:32:43,867 --> 01:32:45,907
Speaker 19: haven't worked for a b I don't know. It's sort

1816
01:32:45,947 --> 01:32:50,307
Speaker 19: of it is tough. I guess you've got to win

1817
01:32:50,347 --> 01:32:51,827
Speaker 19: the first couple, or if you don't win the first

1818
01:32:51,867 --> 01:32:53,507
Speaker 19: ones and they get some quick play the balls, you're

1819
01:32:53,787 --> 01:32:55,867
Speaker 19: going to be struggling to get the next to So

1820
01:32:56,467 --> 01:32:58,507
Speaker 19: I guess it's got to win those first couple and

1821
01:32:58,587 --> 01:32:59,827
Speaker 19: they give away six agains.

1822
01:33:01,147 --> 01:33:01,707
Speaker 4: Is it mental?

1823
01:33:01,747 --> 01:33:03,747
Speaker 2: And is it mental in many ways? You know, actually

1824
01:33:03,907 --> 01:33:06,267
Speaker 2: wanting to put your body on the line like that.

1825
01:33:06,427 --> 01:33:09,787
Speaker 19: It yeah, if you're if you've got some injuries and

1826
01:33:09,947 --> 01:33:11,827
Speaker 19: like you know, you've got a source you know, arm

1827
01:33:12,067 --> 01:33:14,547
Speaker 19: or something like a sternhum or something like that, and

1828
01:33:14,587 --> 01:33:16,827
Speaker 19: you're not fully prepared to put your body on the line,

1829
01:33:16,867 --> 01:33:18,867
Speaker 19: you're definitely not gonna You're gonna show it out there.

1830
01:33:18,947 --> 01:33:22,267
Speaker 19: And I think you've got to come each week mentually

1831
01:33:22,427 --> 01:33:24,907
Speaker 19: ready to put your body on the line for the boys.

1832
01:33:25,707 --> 01:33:29,427
Speaker 2: Sean Johnson back tonight. How does that change the shape

1833
01:33:29,667 --> 01:33:31,787
Speaker 2: of the team particularly on a tack.

1834
01:33:33,707 --> 01:33:34,467
Speaker 19: He'll provide a.

1835
01:33:34,467 --> 01:33:34,867
Speaker 11: Lot for us.

1836
01:33:35,107 --> 01:33:38,907
Speaker 19: He's got a good kicking game. He's keen ass to

1837
01:33:39,147 --> 01:33:41,667
Speaker 19: get back in there, and I'm sure he's watching from

1838
01:33:41,707 --> 01:33:45,787
Speaker 19: the sidelines training hard, So it won't change much. We

1839
01:33:45,907 --> 01:33:47,747
Speaker 19: sort of we sort of keep it our sort of

1840
01:33:47,827 --> 01:33:51,587
Speaker 19: game plan. Somebody will still be there. So he's been

1841
01:33:51,707 --> 01:33:54,467
Speaker 19: doing the ship around pretty well, like he's very well actually,

1842
01:33:54,547 --> 01:33:56,987
Speaker 19: So he's been unreal for us while Sean's been away.

1843
01:33:57,067 --> 01:33:58,947
Speaker 19: So it's good to have both of them now and

1844
01:33:59,347 --> 01:34:02,187
Speaker 19: hopefully they're both informed and playing off each other nicely.

1845
01:34:02,307 --> 01:34:04,067
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right about to mighty Martin, and everyone's been

1846
01:34:04,147 --> 01:34:06,187
Speaker 2: just some priest with with how he's gone and that Steven,

1847
01:34:06,507 --> 01:34:09,507
Speaker 2: But I guess internally you would have known how good

1848
01:34:09,507 --> 01:34:09,827
Speaker 2: he was.

1849
01:34:09,907 --> 01:34:11,947
Speaker 4: But but has it been in any.

1850
01:34:11,827 --> 01:34:15,587
Speaker 2: Way a pleasant surprise that he's stepped up in Sean's absence.

1851
01:34:16,907 --> 01:34:19,627
Speaker 19: Yeah, he's an unreal trainer and like he you know,

1852
01:34:19,747 --> 01:34:21,987
Speaker 19: he's put a lot of work into his game over

1853
01:34:22,027 --> 01:34:25,627
Speaker 19: the last two years, so he's he's definitely deserved there

1854
01:34:25,707 --> 01:34:28,827
Speaker 19: what he's gotten in that middle row where he gets

1855
01:34:28,867 --> 01:34:32,747
Speaker 19: to touch the ball a lot more, he's definitely succeeded

1856
01:34:32,947 --> 01:34:35,107
Speaker 19: and he's been doing it. It's good to see.

1857
01:34:36,027 --> 01:34:39,947
Speaker 2: And your second season at the Warriors. Obviously you've played

1858
01:34:40,027 --> 01:34:42,867
Speaker 2: more games in those two seasons. I'm only about halfway

1859
01:34:42,867 --> 01:34:44,907
Speaker 2: through this one than you did in all four of

1860
01:34:45,067 --> 01:34:48,467
Speaker 2: your years at Saint George. Wherever the big growth theory

1861
01:34:48,507 --> 01:34:49,827
Speaker 2: has come in your game that have led to you

1862
01:34:50,307 --> 01:34:52,067
Speaker 2: becoming a regular starter at the Warriors.

1863
01:34:53,667 --> 01:34:56,547
Speaker 19: Sort of just moved over here for an opportunity. I know,

1864
01:34:56,627 --> 01:34:59,307
Speaker 19: I had to knuckle down. Like, to be honest, there

1865
01:34:59,587 --> 01:35:01,747
Speaker 19: not many teams wanted me after the Saint George, but

1866
01:35:02,227 --> 01:35:05,227
Speaker 19: where he gave me an opportunity, and I just said

1867
01:35:05,227 --> 01:35:09,347
Speaker 19: that it was sort of my to, you know, like it.

1868
01:35:09,387 --> 01:35:09,827
Speaker 12: Was my time.

1869
01:35:09,867 --> 01:35:11,587
Speaker 19: If I wanted to be an ale player, I've got

1870
01:35:11,707 --> 01:35:14,147
Speaker 19: to train hard, and I come over here to knuckle down.

1871
01:35:14,227 --> 01:35:16,787
Speaker 19: And I mean, he hasn't looked back, and he's been

1872
01:35:17,387 --> 01:35:19,467
Speaker 19: been starting me, and I've been like, you know, I

1873
01:35:19,547 --> 01:35:21,547
Speaker 19: haven't been very grateful for every every week.

1874
01:35:21,627 --> 01:35:24,307
Speaker 4: I get why didn't Why don't you think? Do you

1875
01:35:24,347 --> 01:35:26,387
Speaker 4: really think not many other teams were that keen on you?

1876
01:35:27,547 --> 01:35:30,867
Speaker 19: Oh yeah, I was not really Like I didn't play

1877
01:35:30,987 --> 01:35:32,307
Speaker 19: very many games at all, Like and I was just

1878
01:35:32,347 --> 01:35:36,307
Speaker 19: coming off the bench man playing twenty minutes and men

1879
01:35:36,467 --> 01:35:38,187
Speaker 19: like manager had a girl chatt and we didn't have

1880
01:35:38,587 --> 01:35:41,187
Speaker 19: much coming. So I just sort of thought best thing

1881
01:35:41,267 --> 01:35:43,907
Speaker 19: for my career would be to head over to Zealand

1882
01:35:43,947 --> 01:35:45,827
Speaker 19: and just slowly focused on football.

1883
01:35:47,187 --> 01:35:48,867
Speaker 2: And you've tuned up here and you've hardly missed a game,

1884
01:35:49,067 --> 01:35:50,707
Speaker 2: so it's obviously beating the right decision.

1885
01:35:51,427 --> 01:35:53,387
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's really good decision.

1886
01:35:53,827 --> 01:35:57,067
Speaker 4: Absolutely. The Storm, the Melbourne Storm.

1887
01:35:57,107 --> 01:35:58,907
Speaker 2: Can't get away from the fact the Warriors haven't beaten

1888
01:35:58,947 --> 01:36:00,067
Speaker 2: the Storm for quite a long time.

1889
01:36:00,147 --> 01:36:01,707
Speaker 4: Why are they so difficult to overcome?

1890
01:36:05,467 --> 01:36:06,547
Speaker 5: It is a great team.

1891
01:36:06,587 --> 01:36:09,347
Speaker 19: They've been great for the last you know century sort

1892
01:36:09,387 --> 01:36:12,507
Speaker 19: of thing like they're just a really good team. They

1893
01:36:12,587 --> 01:36:15,267
Speaker 19: got their big forwards and they've got their speedmen out

1894
01:36:15,347 --> 01:36:19,467
Speaker 19: the back that that fights everything. I don't know, just

1895
01:36:19,547 --> 01:36:21,707
Speaker 19: their team culture always everyone know, they sort of talks

1896
01:36:21,707 --> 01:36:22,027
Speaker 19: about that.

1897
01:36:22,227 --> 01:36:22,547
Speaker 12: I guess.

1898
01:36:22,627 --> 01:36:24,787
Speaker 19: So they're just a yeah, they they're a really good

1899
01:36:24,827 --> 01:36:26,107
Speaker 19: team and they don't lose many games.

1900
01:36:26,307 --> 01:36:28,147
Speaker 2: I think back to round two, you you know, it

1901
01:36:28,267 --> 01:36:30,187
Speaker 2: looked like you're going to break that long standing duck.

1902
01:36:30,267 --> 01:36:33,587
Speaker 2: How much did that last minute lost with Xavier Coach

1903
01:36:33,667 --> 01:36:35,547
Speaker 2: scoring that outrageous try at the end how much of

1904
01:36:35,627 --> 01:36:37,507
Speaker 2: that sting on that night.

1905
01:36:37,707 --> 01:36:40,307
Speaker 19: Yeah, that was a hard one. That was a hard

1906
01:36:40,347 --> 01:36:45,627
Speaker 19: one to swallow. I think everyone sort of always hard

1907
01:36:45,667 --> 01:36:48,227
Speaker 19: to you know, you can't do that, you can't think

1908
01:36:48,307 --> 01:36:50,267
Speaker 19: you're going to win the game with you know, ten

1909
01:36:50,307 --> 01:36:52,307
Speaker 19: minutes to go. You've got to keep keep going. And

1910
01:36:53,107 --> 01:36:54,867
Speaker 19: we sort of saw asleep a little bit there. And

1911
01:36:55,427 --> 01:36:57,547
Speaker 19: but there were some freakish tries there, like we did.

1912
01:36:58,067 --> 01:37:00,347
Speaker 19: We tried our best, but you just got to give

1913
01:37:00,347 --> 01:37:03,427
Speaker 19: it to the team as well, like they they probably

1914
01:37:03,667 --> 01:37:06,187
Speaker 19: you know, come up with some really good players there.

1915
01:37:06,387 --> 01:37:08,027
Speaker 19: It got them to win in the end.

1916
01:37:08,187 --> 01:37:13,067
Speaker 2: And Yeah, and another mess of crowd coming tonight, sold

1917
01:37:13,107 --> 01:37:16,827
Speaker 2: out again and hardly surprising with a contest of this magnitude.

1918
01:37:17,267 --> 01:37:18,107
Speaker 4: That must be really cool.

1919
01:37:18,227 --> 01:37:19,587
Speaker 2: Is it when you're driving to the game and you

1920
01:37:19,747 --> 01:37:21,747
Speaker 2: see fans sort of getting ready to get there and

1921
01:37:21,907 --> 01:37:24,427
Speaker 2: sort of loading up, getting themselves ready. Is that kind

1922
01:37:24,467 --> 01:37:26,147
Speaker 2: of add a little bit of extra energy to you

1923
01:37:26,267 --> 01:37:27,987
Speaker 2: as you as you know you're going to have these

1924
01:37:28,027 --> 01:37:29,107
Speaker 2: pack stands again tonight.

1925
01:37:30,427 --> 01:37:33,587
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's a massive Home games are massive for us.

1926
01:37:35,067 --> 01:37:36,787
Speaker 19: It's m it's always sold out. I think they're sold

1927
01:37:36,827 --> 01:37:39,667
Speaker 19: out for the next three weeks. To your home games,

1928
01:37:39,707 --> 01:37:42,827
Speaker 19: which is crazy and I don't think we've played there

1929
01:37:42,947 --> 01:37:46,387
Speaker 19: that hasn't been sold out for the last my whole

1930
01:37:46,707 --> 01:37:50,547
Speaker 19: pretty much my whole career. Yeah, the worries. Yeah, it's

1931
01:37:50,587 --> 01:37:53,827
Speaker 19: good to drive in, see all the jerseys, all the

1932
01:37:53,907 --> 01:37:57,747
Speaker 19: flags going around. It's a going to be like a

1933
01:37:57,987 --> 01:38:00,067
Speaker 19: night one, so it's going to be nice and dark hopefully,

1934
01:38:00,147 --> 01:38:03,747
Speaker 19: and how they ride up the coming out of the

1935
01:38:03,787 --> 01:38:06,307
Speaker 19: shed there, so it's an unreal feeling and can't wait.

1936
01:38:06,747 --> 01:38:08,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't wait either, Jackson. Great a chat. You

1937
01:38:08,747 --> 01:38:10,867
Speaker 2: made all the best against the storm tonight. Really appreciate

1938
01:38:11,107 --> 01:38:12,227
Speaker 2: you're taking the time for a chat.

1939
01:38:12,707 --> 01:38:14,027
Speaker 20: No, yeess appreciate it.

1940
01:38:14,067 --> 01:38:16,227
Speaker 2: No, appreciate your time, Jackson, Jackson Ford. Then out of

1941
01:38:16,227 --> 01:38:19,147
Speaker 2: the Warriors seven thirty tonight. Good to know that for

1942
01:38:19,467 --> 01:38:21,947
Speaker 2: sports viewers who enjoy their rugby and their rugby league

1943
01:38:21,987 --> 01:38:25,427
Speaker 2: are no clash. Super Rugby semi Final four to thirty

1944
01:38:25,867 --> 01:38:29,307
Speaker 2: Warriors at seven thirty. If this Super Rugby semi final

1945
01:38:29,467 --> 01:38:33,507
Speaker 2: happens to be level after eighty minutes, they go into

1946
01:38:33,547 --> 01:38:36,267
Speaker 2: golden point. Sorry, they go into extra time and then

1947
01:38:36,467 --> 01:38:39,747
Speaker 2: golden point extra time and then if it's still level

1948
01:38:39,827 --> 01:38:42,227
Speaker 2: after that, so there's ten minutes of there's ten minutes

1949
01:38:42,227 --> 01:38:45,307
Speaker 2: of extra time. If it's still level, they play up

1950
01:38:45,427 --> 01:38:48,467
Speaker 2: to ten minutes of golden point extra time, so the

1951
01:38:48,547 --> 01:38:51,267
Speaker 2: first team to score a try or a drop goal

1952
01:38:51,347 --> 01:38:54,267
Speaker 2: or a penalty wins. If it's still level. After that

1953
01:38:54,427 --> 01:38:57,547
Speaker 2: they go to the They go to the shots at goal.

1954
01:38:58,427 --> 01:39:01,187
Speaker 2: Five players have to have a shot at goal from

1955
01:39:01,387 --> 01:39:06,147
Speaker 2: along the twenty two. They line one up basically in

1956
01:39:06,187 --> 01:39:09,147
Speaker 2: the middle and then off to the side and then

1957
01:39:09,227 --> 01:39:12,347
Speaker 2: out on the sideline, and five players have to kick

1958
01:39:12,747 --> 01:39:15,387
Speaker 2: at goal. It's like a penalty shootout. I don't think

1959
01:39:15,387 --> 01:39:18,147
Speaker 2: I've ever seen one. I know they've happened, I've seen

1960
01:39:18,347 --> 01:39:21,707
Speaker 2: online footage. I'm not suggesting that's what we're after tonight,

1961
01:39:21,787 --> 01:39:23,987
Speaker 2: but that is the way they separate the teams in

1962
01:39:24,067 --> 01:39:27,427
Speaker 2: the Super Rugby semi if they are level at the end,

1963
01:39:28,067 --> 01:39:31,467
Speaker 2: extra time for ten minutes golden point extra time and

1964
01:39:31,587 --> 01:39:36,307
Speaker 2: then the shots at goal shootout or whatever they want

1965
01:39:36,387 --> 01:39:38,867
Speaker 2: to call it. New Zealander five without lost. Coming towards

1966
01:39:38,907 --> 01:39:41,307
Speaker 2: the end of the first over chasing forty one to

1967
01:39:41,387 --> 01:39:44,267
Speaker 2: beat Uganda at the T twenty World Cup. On email

1968
01:39:44,347 --> 01:39:47,427
Speaker 2: from Leonoys Enjoy your correspondence, Leon Piney. The idea of

1969
01:39:47,467 --> 01:39:49,867
Speaker 2: holding an Origin game in Auckland could be lucrative, but

1970
01:39:50,027 --> 01:39:52,707
Speaker 2: the biggest herd life feel will be its midweek and

1971
01:39:52,867 --> 01:39:55,147
Speaker 2: the finishing time. Most in attendance would have work and

1972
01:39:55,187 --> 01:39:57,467
Speaker 2: school the next day, so arriving home between one and

1973
01:39:57,547 --> 01:39:59,907
Speaker 2: two in the morning would be a big obstacle. Also,

1974
01:40:00,027 --> 01:40:03,267
Speaker 2: in the NBA Finals, I picked, says Leon Boston and six,

1975
01:40:03,707 --> 01:40:05,907
Speaker 2: it looks like Dallas will save some face today, but

1976
01:40:05,987 --> 01:40:08,267
Speaker 2: insane that it'll all most likely wrap early next week

1977
01:40:08,627 --> 01:40:11,027
Speaker 2: in Game five. The Celtics will be happy to return

1978
01:40:11,067 --> 01:40:12,907
Speaker 2: home and win it all in front of their home

1979
01:40:13,027 --> 01:40:16,187
Speaker 2: fans and what is known as a gentleman's sweep, that's

1980
01:40:16,227 --> 01:40:18,467
Speaker 2: when you win four to one. Here's a crazy statsa

1981
01:40:18,507 --> 01:40:22,187
Speaker 2: is Lee on history shows that teams leading three games

1982
01:40:22,267 --> 01:40:25,267
Speaker 2: to nil are one hundred and fifty six And oh

1983
01:40:26,587 --> 01:40:29,547
Speaker 2: and I can't see that Celtics changing that This series

1984
01:40:30,107 --> 01:40:32,467
Speaker 2: finally go your Hurricanes tonight and what should be a

1985
01:40:32,587 --> 01:40:35,387
Speaker 2: close and brutal contest. It'd be nice to see the

1986
01:40:35,467 --> 01:40:38,427
Speaker 2: Canes host the final after a very consistent season. Well,

1987
01:40:38,427 --> 01:40:40,747
Speaker 2: I agree with that, Leon, but then I'm very biased

1988
01:40:40,787 --> 01:40:41,867
Speaker 2: when it comes to the Hurricanes.

1989
01:40:42,227 --> 01:40:42,947
Speaker 4: Two twenty four.

1990
01:40:43,107 --> 01:40:45,387
Speaker 2: We'll take a comeback talk some golf wrap the first

1991
01:40:45,427 --> 01:40:48,587
Speaker 2: two rounds of the US Golf Open at Pinehurst. Number

1992
01:40:48,627 --> 01:40:51,707
Speaker 2: two Ryan Fox has safely made the cut, a couple

1993
01:40:51,747 --> 01:40:54,067
Speaker 2: of big names have missed out. Who's up near the

1994
01:40:54,107 --> 01:40:56,347
Speaker 2: top of the leader board? Who might win it? We're

1995
01:40:56,347 --> 01:41:00,387
Speaker 2: going to chat to golf journalist and former course designer

1996
01:41:00,827 --> 01:41:02,507
Speaker 2: Mike Clayton when we come back.

1997
01:41:04,067 --> 01:41:07,107
Speaker 1: It's more than just a game. He cams for it

1998
01:41:07,387 --> 01:41:11,507
Speaker 1: with Jason Pine and GJ. Gardnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted

1999
01:41:11,547 --> 01:41:13,507
Speaker 1: home builder News TALKSB.

2000
01:41:13,627 --> 01:41:15,107
Speaker 4: News Talks There two twenty eight.

2001
01:41:15,187 --> 01:41:17,027
Speaker 2: Just a couple of small corrections to what I said

2002
01:41:17,027 --> 01:41:20,067
Speaker 2: before about the game going into extra time. So it's

2003
01:41:20,187 --> 01:41:23,907
Speaker 2: two ten minute periods. If it's level at eighty minutes,

2004
01:41:23,947 --> 01:41:27,867
Speaker 2: they play two ten minute periods of extra time, regardless

2005
01:41:27,907 --> 01:41:30,227
Speaker 2: of if anybody scores in those periods. If it's still

2006
01:41:30,307 --> 01:41:33,587
Speaker 2: tight after that, then they have up to ten minutes

2007
01:41:33,627 --> 01:41:36,187
Speaker 2: of sudden death, and if it's still tight after that,

2008
01:41:36,307 --> 01:41:38,467
Speaker 2: we move to the kicking competition. And you don't have

2009
01:41:38,507 --> 01:41:40,587
Speaker 2: to convert it from the sideline. The first one is

2010
01:41:40,627 --> 01:41:43,267
Speaker 2: from in front, the second one is on the fifteen

2011
01:41:43,347 --> 01:41:45,987
Speaker 2: met a line on the left hand side. Facing the posts.

2012
01:41:46,347 --> 01:41:48,187
Speaker 2: The third one is on the fifteen met a line

2013
01:41:48,227 --> 01:41:50,707
Speaker 2: on the right hand side, facing the posts, and then

2014
01:41:50,747 --> 01:41:53,027
Speaker 2: they move back out to in front again and you

2015
01:41:53,147 --> 01:41:55,867
Speaker 2: just rotate your way around. There are five kicks, like

2016
01:41:56,067 --> 01:42:00,587
Speaker 2: a penalty shootout in football, So five kickers and then

2017
01:42:01,187 --> 01:42:04,547
Speaker 2: once you yeah so, and once you go past the

2018
01:42:04,867 --> 01:42:06,067
Speaker 2: in front of the post to the left and to

2019
01:42:06,107 --> 01:42:07,347
Speaker 2: the you go back to the front again.

2020
01:42:08,307 --> 01:42:09,107
Speaker 4: So that's how it works.

2021
01:42:09,347 --> 01:42:11,827
Speaker 2: Like I say, it would take a lot has to

2022
01:42:11,907 --> 01:42:14,547
Speaker 2: happen before we get to a place kicking competition, but

2023
01:42:14,587 --> 01:42:16,307
Speaker 2: that's how it would work if in fact we do

2024
01:42:16,867 --> 01:42:19,587
Speaker 2: keepig golf of Ryan Fox has achieved his seventh straight

2025
01:42:19,667 --> 01:42:21,827
Speaker 2: cut and a major. It was a close run thing,

2026
01:42:21,867 --> 01:42:23,427
Speaker 2: though Fox had to think a part of less than

2027
01:42:23,427 --> 01:42:25,187
Speaker 2: a meter to scrape into the weekend at the US

2028
01:42:25,227 --> 01:42:27,987
Speaker 2: Open at Pinehurst number two, bogeying his last hole but

2029
01:42:28,107 --> 01:42:31,067
Speaker 2: doing just enough to hit the five over par cut line.

2030
01:42:31,787 --> 01:42:34,787
Speaker 2: He's tied for fifty seventh and last of those to

2031
01:42:34,867 --> 01:42:38,587
Speaker 2: make the weekend, ten shots behind leader Ludwig Oberg of Sweden,

2032
01:42:38,987 --> 01:42:41,307
Speaker 2: who's on top of the leader board by one shot

2033
01:42:41,387 --> 01:42:44,947
Speaker 2: at five under, ahead of a three strong chasing pack.

2034
01:42:45,427 --> 01:42:48,827
Speaker 2: Northern Irishman Rory McElroy is a shot further back on

2035
01:42:49,267 --> 01:42:53,147
Speaker 2: three under Tiger Woods, missed the cut by two strokes.

2036
01:42:53,187 --> 01:42:56,347
Speaker 2: There was a special moment, though, provided by Italian veteran

2037
01:42:56,667 --> 01:42:59,787
Speaker 2: Francesco MOLINARISI.

2038
01:42:58,827 --> 01:43:02,227
Speaker 4: Pusa sabstraka, we've got a good cunts. Look at this,

2039
01:43:02,547 --> 01:43:11,307
Speaker 4: look at facts. Come dad, come, oh my gosh, to

2040
01:43:11,547 --> 01:43:12,587
Speaker 4: maybe make the cut.

2041
01:43:12,867 --> 01:43:15,707
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did make the cut. That was Francesco Molinary

2042
01:43:15,827 --> 01:43:19,147
Speaker 2: playing the ninth, which was his eighteenth hole. It was

2043
01:43:19,267 --> 01:43:21,867
Speaker 2: just a fifty third hole in one in US Open history,

2044
01:43:21,947 --> 01:43:25,307
Speaker 2: emulating step Striker who had done the same earlier in

2045
01:43:25,427 --> 01:43:29,187
Speaker 2: the day. Let's bring in golf writer and course architect

2046
01:43:29,467 --> 01:43:32,067
Speaker 2: Mike Clayton. You can find Mike on your socials at

2047
01:43:32,387 --> 01:43:36,027
Speaker 2: Mike Clayton Golf. Mike would have been the main storylines

2048
01:43:36,267 --> 01:43:38,187
Speaker 2: of the first couple of rounds of the US Open

2049
01:43:38,267 --> 01:43:38,427
Speaker 2: for you.

2050
01:43:39,667 --> 01:43:44,307
Speaker 9: Wow, the course, how brutally precise you have to be

2051
01:43:44,387 --> 01:43:50,027
Speaker 9: otherwise you're off those greens in a second. The wildest

2052
01:43:50,067 --> 01:43:52,747
Speaker 9: story ever was Molinary making your hole in wand to

2053
01:43:52,787 --> 01:43:56,067
Speaker 9: make the cut, wasn't that? Yes, it's like completely mad.

2054
01:43:56,467 --> 01:43:59,347
Speaker 9: I I've seen some kind of crazy things to make cuts,

2055
01:43:59,427 --> 01:44:02,107
Speaker 9: but it often's there, hold in want to make a cut.

2056
01:44:03,067 --> 01:44:07,387
Speaker 9: Oberg is great, you know, he's everyone knows how good

2057
01:44:07,427 --> 01:44:13,947
Speaker 9: he is. So he's leading and yeah, not really a surprise.

2058
01:44:14,067 --> 01:44:16,827
Speaker 9: How while he's playing is he's been a pro year

2059
01:44:16,867 --> 01:44:22,627
Speaker 9: and he's you know, obviously reminds us of Adam Scott

2060
01:44:22,747 --> 01:44:23,627
Speaker 9: and Steve Elkington.

2061
01:44:23,707 --> 01:44:26,067
Speaker 4: Really you want to talk about Oberg?

2062
01:44:26,227 --> 01:44:27,587
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to talk a bit more about him

2063
01:44:27,587 --> 01:44:29,707
Speaker 2: in a moment. Just just something you wrote during the

2064
01:44:29,747 --> 01:44:32,867
Speaker 2: week really resonated. You wrote that this tournament isn't going

2065
01:44:32,907 --> 01:44:34,867
Speaker 2: to be so much about how many greens you hit,

2066
01:44:35,387 --> 01:44:37,827
Speaker 2: but where you missed them and how well you managed

2067
01:44:37,867 --> 01:44:40,227
Speaker 2: to get the next shot close enough to save pars

2068
01:44:40,667 --> 01:44:41,347
Speaker 2: and bogies.

2069
01:44:41,627 --> 01:44:43,187
Speaker 4: Has that proven to be the case in the first

2070
01:44:43,227 --> 01:44:43,707
Speaker 4: two rounds.

2071
01:44:45,307 --> 01:44:47,667
Speaker 9: Yeah. I was just watching some day m playing the

2072
01:44:47,747 --> 01:44:50,427
Speaker 9: ninth hole and he's missing the car by a mile,

2073
01:44:50,507 --> 01:44:53,347
Speaker 9: but he hit a beautiful shot and took his part

2074
01:44:53,467 --> 01:44:55,907
Speaker 9: out of the bag. The ball tick all past the hole.

2075
01:44:56,347 --> 01:44:58,387
Speaker 9: It's only twenty yards over the green. I mean, so

2076
01:44:59,347 --> 01:45:02,187
Speaker 9: you know it's how you you can hit all thost

2077
01:45:02,267 --> 01:45:06,867
Speaker 9: perfect shots and you're off the green, So it's you know,

2078
01:45:07,187 --> 01:45:10,307
Speaker 9: that's how you scramble. You know, and get up and

2079
01:45:10,387 --> 01:45:14,147
Speaker 9: down from there. And it's also how if you play

2080
01:45:14,267 --> 01:45:18,227
Speaker 9: that The group behind played played the night toll and

2081
01:45:19,987 --> 01:45:22,147
Speaker 9: was someone hitter? Now they just played it thirty five

2082
01:45:22,187 --> 01:45:25,467
Speaker 9: feet short of the hole, which is obviously where you've

2083
01:45:25,507 --> 01:45:26,867
Speaker 9: got to hit it to keep it on the green.

2084
01:45:28,467 --> 01:45:29,947
Speaker 9: You know, if you go back to that hole, you

2085
01:45:30,067 --> 01:45:32,227
Speaker 9: rather make it one like while and Ury did, or

2086
01:45:32,347 --> 01:45:35,347
Speaker 9: you go, you know, do it. Some did pretty much

2087
01:45:35,427 --> 01:45:38,187
Speaker 9: the same shot, go three feet too far and he's

2088
01:45:38,387 --> 01:45:41,507
Speaker 9: thirty hours out of the green. So it's you've got

2089
01:45:41,587 --> 01:45:43,787
Speaker 9: to be so precise and so careful with what you do.

2090
01:45:45,267 --> 01:45:49,507
Speaker 9: So it's and it's unusual in that it's you know,

2091
01:45:49,547 --> 01:45:52,067
Speaker 9: the green's art surrounded by long green, thick grass, which

2092
01:45:52,147 --> 01:45:54,987
Speaker 9: is just a horrible way to play golf. But you

2093
01:45:55,027 --> 01:45:56,867
Speaker 9: know it's a very American way of setting up that

2094
01:45:58,587 --> 01:46:02,267
Speaker 9: normal US Open type setup. But this is much more

2095
01:46:02,307 --> 01:46:05,987
Speaker 9: interesting to watch. But if you've built this course for

2096
01:46:06,107 --> 01:46:10,427
Speaker 9: a club member, they were just they would go completely mad.

2097
01:46:10,427 --> 01:46:15,507
Speaker 9: The would think they were joking. But it's a public course,

2098
01:46:15,587 --> 01:46:18,187
Speaker 9: so you know, there are no members, so people come

2099
01:46:18,267 --> 01:46:20,907
Speaker 9: and go and they accept it for what it is.

2100
01:46:21,067 --> 01:46:25,467
Speaker 9: But as I said, as a member's course, they would

2101
01:46:25,467 --> 01:46:28,707
Speaker 9: go ballistic if you if you build the storm to

2102
01:46:28,787 --> 01:46:30,347
Speaker 9: play all.

2103
01:46:30,307 --> 01:46:33,027
Speaker 2: Right, just talk about the leader, Ludwig Aberg sixty six,

2104
01:46:33,107 --> 01:46:35,347
Speaker 2: sixty ninety five under one shot clear of a group

2105
01:46:35,387 --> 01:46:37,867
Speaker 2: of players. How equipped do you think he is Mike

2106
01:46:37,987 --> 01:46:39,627
Speaker 2: to hold his nerve in arounds.

2107
01:46:39,307 --> 01:46:39,867
Speaker 4: Three and four.

2108
01:46:42,347 --> 01:46:45,947
Speaker 9: I think very You know, he's Swedish and logical, and

2109
01:46:46,067 --> 01:46:50,387
Speaker 9: he's not like he's super young. He's twenty four to

2110
01:46:50,427 --> 01:46:52,907
Speaker 9: twenty five, so I mean he stayed in college for

2111
01:46:52,987 --> 01:46:57,027
Speaker 9: four years, which is unusual for a non American in

2112
01:46:57,107 --> 01:47:02,427
Speaker 9: this era. But he's we forget that Jerry pateron US

2113
01:47:02,507 --> 01:47:05,227
Speaker 9: Open at twenty two, and Sevy was runner up in

2114
01:47:05,507 --> 01:47:10,467
Speaker 9: the Ish Open at nineteen, and so he's not. You know,

2115
01:47:10,547 --> 01:47:13,827
Speaker 9: there've been great young players before who've handled this sort

2116
01:47:13,867 --> 01:47:16,347
Speaker 9: of pressure and this sort of you know, it comes

2117
01:47:16,387 --> 01:47:21,867
Speaker 9: out how well you play ultimately, and the guys behind him,

2118
01:47:22,507 --> 01:47:25,787
Speaker 9: Rory is kind of the guy that, you know, it's unbelievable.

2119
01:47:25,787 --> 01:47:27,707
Speaker 9: It's been ten years. Can see one of major which

2120
01:47:27,787 --> 01:47:32,147
Speaker 9: he threw it two behind. So if you're Rory, you

2121
01:47:32,267 --> 01:47:34,147
Speaker 9: couldn't have asked a better position to be. And I

2122
01:47:34,387 --> 01:47:36,987
Speaker 9: think so you know how it all plays out in

2123
01:47:37,027 --> 01:47:39,787
Speaker 9: the weekend is you know, there'll be some luck involved,

2124
01:47:39,787 --> 01:47:41,947
Speaker 9: there'll be some great shots involved, the will be some

2125
01:47:42,107 --> 01:47:45,187
Speaker 9: amazing scrambling involved with the whole lot of stuff going

2126
01:47:45,267 --> 01:47:48,387
Speaker 9: to know who gets there in the end. I mean,

2127
01:47:48,467 --> 01:47:52,467
Speaker 9: Bryson's the you know, the wild card who you know,

2128
01:47:52,547 --> 01:47:54,347
Speaker 9: you never really know how he's playing. He's playing on

2129
01:47:54,467 --> 01:47:56,347
Speaker 9: live and no one pays much attention to that. But

2130
01:47:57,267 --> 01:47:59,707
Speaker 9: he's the one lived guy who seems to you know,

2131
01:48:00,027 --> 01:48:02,587
Speaker 9: stand up in the majors and play well every time,

2132
01:48:02,707 --> 01:48:05,027
Speaker 9: so always fascinated to watch what he does.

2133
01:48:05,787 --> 01:48:07,787
Speaker 2: You got all a long way down to find Scotty

2134
01:48:07,827 --> 01:48:10,867
Speaker 2: Schiffler world number one, hottest player in golf right now,

2135
01:48:10,947 --> 01:48:12,667
Speaker 2: but five either only just made the cup.

2136
01:48:12,707 --> 01:48:13,347
Speaker 4: What happened to him?

2137
01:48:15,747 --> 01:48:17,427
Speaker 9: Well, it's a lot of bad shots, but look at it.

2138
01:48:17,547 --> 01:48:19,467
Speaker 9: You know he's driving in the rough and missing greens

2139
01:48:19,547 --> 01:48:24,187
Speaker 9: and yeah it's not you know, five overs not. I

2140
01:48:24,267 --> 01:48:26,867
Speaker 9: mean one forty five in the US Open. It's a

2141
01:48:27,187 --> 01:48:31,387
Speaker 9: past seventy with the sixteenth holes fifty hours longer than

2142
01:48:31,427 --> 01:48:33,147
Speaker 9: the twelfth of row model, which is a part five.

2143
01:48:34,267 --> 01:48:37,027
Speaker 9: So you know it's a super strict past seventy. So

2144
01:48:37,707 --> 01:48:41,987
Speaker 9: one forty five is never horrible golf and it's not

2145
01:48:42,267 --> 01:48:44,547
Speaker 9: like you can't do something from there. You know, he

2146
01:48:44,587 --> 01:48:47,067
Speaker 9: would have to shoot a couple of great rounds, but

2147
01:48:47,147 --> 01:48:48,907
Speaker 9: it's not like he's completely out of it. I mean,

2148
01:48:49,747 --> 01:48:53,907
Speaker 9: five undercred easily when the tournament. So you know, Scheffler

2149
01:48:53,947 --> 01:48:55,907
Speaker 9: went out and shot a couple of sixty seven, he

2150
01:48:55,947 --> 01:49:00,347
Speaker 9: would be very close to winning it. But he's had

2151
01:49:00,787 --> 01:49:02,627
Speaker 9: you know, he's had a crazy year where he's played

2152
01:49:02,667 --> 01:49:05,347
Speaker 9: great golf. But you know, it's a fickle game, and

2153
01:49:05,467 --> 01:49:10,227
Speaker 9: you can can you know, it's not easy to win

2154
01:49:10,347 --> 01:49:11,627
Speaker 9: week after week after week.

2155
01:49:14,107 --> 01:49:16,667
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's been being suburb So five under could win.

2156
01:49:16,827 --> 01:49:18,707
Speaker 2: What do you think five under one? Or are we

2157
01:49:18,787 --> 01:49:22,427
Speaker 2: looking at a eight or nine under winning four round

2158
01:49:22,427 --> 01:49:22,867
Speaker 2: score here?

2159
01:49:23,107 --> 01:49:25,467
Speaker 9: It depends. I mean the weather is probably not going

2160
01:49:25,547 --> 01:49:27,867
Speaker 9: to change much, but it depends what they do with

2161
01:49:27,907 --> 01:49:30,307
Speaker 9: the golf course. If if they were they put the

2162
01:49:30,347 --> 01:49:34,667
Speaker 9: pins and it's a typical kind of US Open week

2163
01:49:34,667 --> 01:49:37,267
Speaker 9: where they start up on Thursday. Everyone's bitching your money

2164
01:49:37,267 --> 01:49:40,107
Speaker 9: about the golf course on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, so it

2165
01:49:40,147 --> 01:49:44,067
Speaker 9: seems like they kind of overreact and make it playable

2166
01:49:44,147 --> 01:49:47,027
Speaker 9: on Thursday when you have you know, the typical use,

2167
01:49:47,067 --> 01:49:50,187
Speaker 9: So you might have fifteen or twenty guys underpart, then

2168
01:49:50,227 --> 01:49:53,227
Speaker 9: it's ten guys by Friday night. Then it's three guys

2169
01:49:53,307 --> 01:49:58,107
Speaker 9: by Sunday by Saturday night, because they can they can

2170
01:49:58,707 --> 01:50:00,747
Speaker 9: dictate what scores they shoot by how they set the

2171
01:50:00,787 --> 01:50:04,027
Speaker 9: golf course up. So if they decided that they wanted

2172
01:50:04,147 --> 01:50:05,947
Speaker 9: five under the win, they can set the great golf

2173
01:50:05,987 --> 01:50:09,027
Speaker 9: course up five and is going to win. So it

2174
01:50:09,147 --> 01:50:11,947
Speaker 9: depends what they do, really, what are they likely to

2175
01:50:12,107 --> 01:50:15,387
Speaker 9: what are they likely to do? I think they like five.

2176
01:50:16,387 --> 01:50:19,387
Speaker 9: They like five underwinning. Yeah, they certainly don't like ken

2177
01:50:19,507 --> 01:50:23,827
Speaker 9: underwinning shot timers shot. I think Kimas shot two sixty

2178
01:50:23,947 --> 01:50:26,387
Speaker 9: five and then shot one over on the weekend, so

2179
01:50:26,427 --> 01:50:31,547
Speaker 9: he was nine under. But they like, you know, they like,

2180
01:50:32,227 --> 01:50:34,427
Speaker 9: even though they never admit it, they like, you know,

2181
01:50:34,507 --> 01:50:39,307
Speaker 9: scores around par winning. And they always manipulate the power

2182
01:50:39,347 --> 01:50:44,707
Speaker 9: a little bit so that they'll take a course that

2183
01:50:44,827 --> 01:50:46,947
Speaker 9: Pebble Beach is normally past them two make it a

2184
01:50:47,027 --> 01:50:49,907
Speaker 9: seventy wines. You know. That's often what they do is

2185
01:50:50,587 --> 01:50:53,067
Speaker 9: change the part of the golf course so few are

2186
01:50:53,267 --> 01:50:56,347
Speaker 9: under par wings. But if you look at the total

2187
01:50:56,467 --> 01:50:58,787
Speaker 9: number of strokes, then it's often not that far away

2188
01:50:58,827 --> 01:51:00,707
Speaker 9: from what the masters is. It's just the masters don't

2189
01:51:00,787 --> 01:51:01,667
Speaker 9: fill the whear their power.

2190
01:51:03,307 --> 01:51:04,947
Speaker 4: Do you think the pliers enjoy the challenge?

2191
01:51:08,507 --> 01:51:09,827
Speaker 9: You would need to be in the locker room to

2192
01:51:10,067 --> 01:51:15,307
Speaker 9: find that out, because that's where you hear all the

2193
01:51:15,347 --> 01:51:22,387
Speaker 9: bitching the ones who U I think they do, but

2194
01:51:22,507 --> 01:51:25,667
Speaker 9: I think this is not what they get week to

2195
01:51:25,707 --> 01:51:28,027
Speaker 9: week on the trust. The problem with pro golf is

2196
01:51:28,187 --> 01:51:31,747
Speaker 9: they think golf should be fair, and the best golf

2197
01:51:31,907 --> 01:51:35,147
Speaker 9: is rarely fair. In fact, that they look at the

2198
01:51:35,227 --> 01:51:37,387
Speaker 9: old course, it's and Andrews, which is probably the best

2199
01:51:37,427 --> 01:51:40,667
Speaker 9: course in the world. It's inherently unfair that there are

2200
01:51:40,747 --> 01:51:44,067
Speaker 9: bunkers in the middle of the fairways that are an

2201
01:51:44,067 --> 01:51:46,587
Speaker 9: out of bounds line down almost every hole coming in

2202
01:51:46,627 --> 01:51:48,987
Speaker 9: on the back nine, and you know, if you're three

2203
01:51:49,067 --> 01:51:50,987
Speaker 9: feet inside the out of bounds line, you're perfectly your

2204
01:51:51,027 --> 01:51:54,347
Speaker 9: three thought on the other side of its two chapales.

2205
01:51:55,067 --> 01:51:58,027
Speaker 9: So you know, it's a wildly unfair golf course if

2206
01:51:58,027 --> 01:51:59,347
Speaker 9: you want to look at it that way. But it's

2207
01:51:59,387 --> 01:52:02,347
Speaker 9: also the best course in the world. So I've often

2208
01:52:02,387 --> 01:52:06,587
Speaker 9: said dealing with the people think that golfs are mental game,

2209
01:52:06,627 --> 01:52:11,347
Speaker 9: and it kind of is. But the great mental challenge

2210
01:52:11,347 --> 01:52:16,107
Speaker 9: of golf is dealing with its inherent unfairness, and the

2211
01:52:16,227 --> 01:52:18,547
Speaker 9: PGA Tours spends all this time trying to make the

2212
01:52:18,587 --> 01:52:21,387
Speaker 9: game fair because that's what the players want. The players

2213
01:52:21,427 --> 01:52:23,507
Speaker 9: pitch your moon if they come across something that they

2214
01:52:23,587 --> 01:52:27,027
Speaker 9: think is unfair. But what is unfair is often the

2215
01:52:27,107 --> 01:52:29,667
Speaker 9: most interesting form of the game, and this is this

2216
01:52:29,787 --> 01:52:32,547
Speaker 9: is borderline unfair. But it's also if you're not playing,

2217
01:52:32,587 --> 01:52:35,747
Speaker 9: it's also great fun to watch. But if you're a

2218
01:52:35,827 --> 01:52:39,227
Speaker 9: player and you've just kind of what you call was

2219
01:52:39,227 --> 01:52:40,867
Speaker 9: a pretty good shot that's tickled off the back of

2220
01:52:40,907 --> 01:52:42,507
Speaker 9: the green, you've taken three to get up and down

2221
01:52:42,547 --> 01:52:45,027
Speaker 9: and miss a cup by shot, then you're not going

2222
01:52:45,067 --> 01:52:48,227
Speaker 9: to feel too good about the place. But that's the

2223
01:52:48,307 --> 01:52:49,987
Speaker 9: nature of the game and the nature of pro goalf

2224
01:52:49,987 --> 01:52:50,187
Speaker 9: for it.

2225
01:52:50,667 --> 01:52:52,147
Speaker 4: So who are the PGA Tours serving?

2226
01:52:52,187 --> 01:52:52,307
Speaker 5: Then?

2227
01:52:52,307 --> 01:52:54,467
Speaker 4: Are they serving the players all the fans? How should

2228
01:52:54,467 --> 01:52:55,067
Speaker 4: they be serving?

2229
01:52:55,867 --> 01:52:57,667
Speaker 9: Well, the PG two are serving the player, but this

2230
01:52:57,747 --> 01:52:59,627
Speaker 9: is not the PG two. This is the USCA. So

2231
01:53:00,147 --> 01:53:03,267
Speaker 9: the USCA is serving the USCA and the us Open.

2232
01:53:03,387 --> 01:53:06,267
Speaker 9: And they couldn't care less about what the players think

2233
01:53:06,347 --> 01:53:10,387
Speaker 9: about the golf course because they've had sixty five years

2234
01:53:10,427 --> 01:53:14,187
Speaker 9: of playing players bitching about USA and golf courses, so

2235
01:53:14,987 --> 01:53:17,187
Speaker 9: you know this is nothing new to them. And you know,

2236
01:53:17,787 --> 01:53:20,987
Speaker 9: they get very close to the line most of the time,

2237
01:53:21,067 --> 01:53:24,987
Speaker 9: and sometimes they go over Shinnacock a few years ago

2238
01:53:25,227 --> 01:53:28,107
Speaker 9: when Nicholson baded that Pat was still moving back up

2239
01:53:28,147 --> 01:53:30,587
Speaker 9: the green, and you know they lost the golf course

2240
01:53:30,667 --> 01:53:35,187
Speaker 9: that particular Saturday. So because they get so close to

2241
01:53:35,267 --> 01:53:37,347
Speaker 9: the line, they always run the risk of going over it,

2242
01:53:38,667 --> 01:53:41,307
Speaker 9: and occasionally they do. But I think they've handled this

2243
01:53:41,427 --> 01:53:45,387
Speaker 9: one pretty well. And their job is not to keep

2244
01:53:45,427 --> 01:53:48,547
Speaker 9: the players happy. But the PGA Tour their job is

2245
01:53:48,587 --> 01:53:51,627
Speaker 9: to kin't keep the players happy because otherwise they well

2246
01:53:51,667 --> 01:53:55,427
Speaker 9: they bitch your moon, you know, forever, or they go

2247
01:53:55,547 --> 01:54:00,827
Speaker 9: and Simon live. So you know, it's a player run organization,

2248
01:54:01,107 --> 01:54:02,187
Speaker 9: whereas the USCA is not.

2249
01:54:03,187 --> 01:54:06,787
Speaker 2: Mike Great, did you very instructional? Thanks for taking the time, Clayton,

2250
01:54:06,867 --> 01:54:11,187
Speaker 2: their former course architect and golf journalist. So two rounds

2251
01:54:11,267 --> 01:54:13,627
Speaker 2: gone at the US Open at Pinehurst number two. Ludwig

2252
01:54:13,707 --> 01:54:16,827
Speaker 2: Oberg is the outright leader at five under and a

2253
01:54:16,907 --> 01:54:19,987
Speaker 2: group of players chasing him, Bryson de Chambeau, the German

2254
01:54:20,067 --> 01:54:24,467
Speaker 2: Thomas Dettley, and another American, Patrick Kantley at four under.

2255
01:54:24,867 --> 01:54:28,987
Speaker 2: Rory McElroy poys to strike at three under alongside Tony

2256
01:54:29,067 --> 01:54:31,907
Speaker 2: Finale and Martheu Pavon, who coming down the streetch was

2257
01:54:31,947 --> 01:54:34,547
Speaker 2: actually the joint leader before dropping a couple of shots

2258
01:54:34,587 --> 01:54:36,507
Speaker 2: on the last couple of holes. Ryan Fox has made

2259
01:54:36,547 --> 01:54:39,907
Speaker 2: the cut. He will play the weekend. Has seventh straight

2260
01:54:39,987 --> 01:54:43,227
Speaker 2: cut made at a major. Nothing to be sneezed at

2261
01:54:43,627 --> 01:54:48,387
Speaker 2: nineteen away from three. Just checking on the cricket score.

2262
01:54:48,427 --> 01:54:51,907
Speaker 2: With New Zealand chasing forty one to beat Uganda in

2263
01:54:51,987 --> 01:54:54,187
Speaker 2: the T twenty Cricket World Cup group match between the two,

2264
01:54:54,187 --> 01:54:57,227
Speaker 2: they're twenty four without loss in the fifth over. I

2265
01:54:57,307 --> 01:55:02,147
Speaker 2: think they've gone upstairs for a third umpire decision here.

2266
01:55:03,307 --> 01:55:05,787
Speaker 2: We won't wait to find the result of that, but

2267
01:55:05,947 --> 01:55:08,787
Speaker 2: we will talk some more cricket shortly. Another New Zealand

2268
01:55:08,827 --> 01:55:12,027
Speaker 2: cricket side is headed off to its World Cup shortly.

2269
01:55:12,467 --> 01:55:14,627
Speaker 2: More on that than just a moment on weekend sport.

2270
01:55:14,947 --> 01:55:19,347
Speaker 1: From Rose to Paris, if you make the call on

2271
01:55:19,707 --> 01:55:22,587
Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty eighty weekends for it with Jason

2272
01:55:22,667 --> 01:55:27,027
Speaker 1: Hin and GJ. Gardnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder news.

2273
01:55:26,947 --> 01:55:29,347
Speaker 4: Dogs coming up to forty five.

2274
01:55:29,467 --> 01:55:33,627
Speaker 2: The outcome of that third umpire deliberation referral was a

2275
01:55:33,707 --> 01:55:37,347
Speaker 2: wicket fin Allan's out for nine. New Zealand through to

2276
01:55:37,787 --> 01:55:40,867
Speaker 2: twenty five for one, make that twenty nine for one,

2277
01:55:41,387 --> 01:55:43,587
Speaker 2: chasing just forty one to win this game, but Finnalen

2278
01:55:43,627 --> 01:55:46,467
Speaker 2: back in the hatch for nine of seventeen bulls seven

2279
01:55:46,507 --> 01:55:50,827
Speaker 2: Conwait and rich and Ravendra together at the crease hasn't

2280
01:55:50,867 --> 01:55:53,027
Speaker 2: gone as they would have hoped. But another New Zealand

2281
01:55:53,067 --> 01:55:55,467
Speaker 2: cricket side is heading off to a World Cup shortly.

2282
01:55:55,827 --> 01:56:00,307
Speaker 2: The New Zealand over seventies cricket team will participate at

2283
01:56:00,347 --> 01:56:04,227
Speaker 2: the over seventy World Cup in England next month. Veterans

2284
01:56:04,267 --> 01:56:08,027
Speaker 2: Cricket has experienced substantial growth, not only here in New

2285
01:56:08,107 --> 01:56:09,987
Speaker 2: Zealand but around the world on the last decade or

2286
01:56:10,027 --> 01:56:15,267
Speaker 2: so Jeremy Wilson as chairman of New Zealand Veterans Cricket.

2287
01:56:15,587 --> 01:56:18,307
Speaker 2: He joins us now, Jeremy, how long has New Zealand

2288
01:56:18,387 --> 01:56:21,707
Speaker 2: Veterans Cricket existed as an organization here?

2289
01:56:22,707 --> 01:56:25,667
Speaker 17: We started, Jason eight years ago with a group in

2290
01:56:25,747 --> 01:56:29,907
Speaker 17: Wellington who got four over sixty teams together, and since

2291
01:56:29,987 --> 01:56:33,627
Speaker 17: then the growth of veterans. Cricket has been extraordinary, not

2292
01:56:33,867 --> 01:56:36,827
Speaker 17: just in New Zealand but all around the world. And

2293
01:56:36,987 --> 01:56:40,667
Speaker 17: today we have a New Zealand forties, fifties, fifty five,

2294
01:56:40,947 --> 01:56:45,467
Speaker 17: sixties and seventies teams that compete in provincial tournaments and

2295
01:56:45,787 --> 01:56:49,187
Speaker 17: at forties, fifty, sixteen seventies level we have World Cups

2296
01:56:49,267 --> 01:56:53,467
Speaker 17: with participation of up to twelve countries in those tournaments.

2297
01:56:53,707 --> 01:56:54,667
Speaker 4: Absolutely brilliant.

2298
01:56:54,707 --> 01:56:57,107
Speaker 2: So when you first got together eight years ago, could

2299
01:56:57,147 --> 01:57:01,507
Speaker 2: you have imagined the explosion and popularity of cricket.

2300
01:57:01,267 --> 01:57:01,787
Speaker 4: Of this type.

2301
01:57:02,547 --> 01:57:05,387
Speaker 17: No, we had no idea. But what it does reflect, Jason,

2302
01:57:05,507 --> 01:57:08,867
Speaker 17: is that my dad went to the Second World War

2303
01:57:08,987 --> 01:57:11,227
Speaker 17: smoke cigarette and by the time he was sixty he

2304
01:57:11,467 --> 01:57:15,867
Speaker 17: was shot a bit. But nowadays people are looking after themselves,

2305
01:57:15,907 --> 01:57:20,387
Speaker 17: they're going to the gym, still viable to play sport

2306
01:57:20,787 --> 01:57:23,227
Speaker 17: into a ripe old age and that's what we're seeing

2307
01:57:23,267 --> 01:57:27,747
Speaker 17: in this and plus participation is everything, and the guys

2308
01:57:27,907 --> 01:57:31,747
Speaker 17: just loved still being involved in cricket, the camaraderie as

2309
01:57:31,787 --> 01:57:32,547
Speaker 17: well as the sport.

2310
01:57:33,107 --> 01:57:36,667
Speaker 2: Is it mainly players who have played cricket in their

2311
01:57:36,747 --> 01:57:39,907
Speaker 2: younger days and just want to carry on their passion

2312
01:57:39,947 --> 01:57:42,747
Speaker 2: for the game or are you finding new players to

2313
01:57:42,867 --> 01:57:44,187
Speaker 2: the game at this age group.

2314
01:57:45,507 --> 01:57:49,107
Speaker 17: Surprisingly, yeah, we are finding guys who've never played cricket

2315
01:57:49,147 --> 01:57:51,187
Speaker 17: and suddenly, in their fifties they decided they want to

2316
01:57:51,187 --> 01:57:55,667
Speaker 17: take it up as an example. And you know, their

2317
01:57:55,707 --> 01:57:58,227
Speaker 17: skill is not the same as someone who's played it

2318
01:57:58,307 --> 01:58:01,747
Speaker 17: since a very early age. But look, we just welcome

2319
01:58:01,787 --> 01:58:05,907
Speaker 17: everyone and it's been an absolute blast and just a

2320
01:58:06,067 --> 01:58:07,707
Speaker 17: really good bunch of blokes who play it in the

2321
01:58:07,787 --> 01:58:08,307
Speaker 17: right spirit.

2322
01:58:09,187 --> 01:58:12,027
Speaker 2: Competitive though, Jeremy, I would imagine there would still be

2323
01:58:12,107 --> 01:58:16,147
Speaker 2: the spirit of competition and the competitive juices running through

2324
01:58:16,307 --> 01:58:17,107
Speaker 2: some of the players.

2325
01:58:17,947 --> 01:58:20,507
Speaker 17: Jason, you have no idea. We're out there to win.

2326
01:58:20,707 --> 01:58:20,747
Speaker 9: Ha.

2327
01:58:21,907 --> 01:58:22,427
Speaker 14: I love it.

2328
01:58:23,067 --> 01:58:25,187
Speaker 2: I love it, and I often say that the that

2329
01:58:25,347 --> 01:58:27,987
Speaker 2: the you know, the the mind is willing, but the

2330
01:58:28,067 --> 01:58:32,147
Speaker 2: body isn't necessarily. I mean, are you still finding, you know,

2331
01:58:32,267 --> 01:58:36,267
Speaker 2: relatively fast bowlers in the in the veterans landscape.

2332
01:58:37,027 --> 01:58:39,147
Speaker 17: We've got a guy in over Stix. The Dean asked

2333
01:58:39,227 --> 01:58:42,747
Speaker 17: you who played first class cricket. Dean's about six foot

2334
01:58:42,787 --> 01:58:45,987
Speaker 17: four six took five and he is seriously quick. And

2335
01:58:46,147 --> 01:58:48,787
Speaker 17: then when you get to the say the forties with

2336
01:58:48,867 --> 01:58:52,507
Speaker 17: the Marshall boys playing and some of those other ex internationals,

2337
01:58:53,467 --> 01:58:57,387
Speaker 17: you know that they are very slippery and but we're

2338
01:58:57,387 --> 01:59:00,707
Speaker 17: all keen as mustard. I saw a game with the

2339
01:59:00,747 --> 01:59:02,987
Speaker 17: Australian over seventies team a couple of years ago and

2340
01:59:03,107 --> 01:59:05,667
Speaker 17: un thought these old blots won't be much. They were

2341
01:59:05,787 --> 01:59:08,747
Speaker 17: diving in the outfield firing the ball and they are

2342
01:59:09,067 --> 01:59:11,987
Speaker 17: very competitive and highly skilled. And if you saw the

2343
01:59:12,667 --> 01:59:15,907
Speaker 17: size of the competition in Australia and England in over

2344
01:59:16,027 --> 01:59:20,147
Speaker 17: age cricket, there's full county championship, state championships and so on,

2345
01:59:20,347 --> 01:59:23,907
Speaker 17: it's extraordinary. But they yeah the Aaron Goodnick and they

2346
01:59:23,987 --> 01:59:25,307
Speaker 17: still compete fiercely.

2347
01:59:25,827 --> 01:59:27,667
Speaker 2: Tell us about the New Zealand team heading to the

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Speaker 2: seventies World cupin in England next month.

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Speaker 17: Well, we've got a collection of guys that with a

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Speaker 17: couple of X first class cricketers. Paul F Curry played

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Speaker 17: for Otago. John Cushion played for Otaga in Auckland. John

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Speaker 17: Cushion is the man that got Jeffrey Boycott out once

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Speaker 17: at Eden Park, so he's very proud of that. But

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Speaker 17: mainly they're just a group of guys that have kept

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Speaker 17: playing as keen as mustard. We've got a training weekend

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Speaker 17: coming up this weekend in christ Church, but he's a

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Speaker 17: Richard Henley Center and from all around the country and

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Speaker 17: they'll be going off to England to play several games

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Speaker 17: around the Windsor area. The headquarters for the competition is

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Speaker 17: at Warmsley, which is Sir John Paulghetty's private cricket ground.

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Speaker 17: It was on on TV last night in an English

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Speaker 17: program which had the setting of a cricket game. And

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Speaker 17: then our opening function is at Eton. So it's going

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Speaker 17: to be a fantastic experience to go over there and

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Speaker 17: play against all these other countries in those sorts of settings.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned other countries, who are you know who are

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Speaker 2: involved and you talked about England and Australia. What about

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Speaker 2: the likes of India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Jeremy they have

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Speaker 2: Do they have veteran setups?

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Speaker 17: Yes, they certainly do. Pakistan won the first over sixties

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Speaker 17: World Cup. We got runner up in that in the sixties,

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Speaker 17: that host of the forties World Cup tournament. South Africa

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Speaker 17: are very strong than Barbwee. USA and Canada are both strong.

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Speaker 17: They're very much made up of players or people from

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Speaker 17: x from the Asian subcontinent. So yeah, Wales. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 17: a full representation of all the cricket nations.

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Speaker 2: And you talked about some of the grounds that you

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Speaker 2: play on there. I'd imagine that'd be just just sort

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Speaker 2: of picture perfect grounds, wouldn't they. I can imagine you're

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Speaker 2: playing on you know, with picket fences and you know,

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Speaker 2: and and delicious lunches, that sort.

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Speaker 17: Of thing they kill you with, kinda the sponge cakes.

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Speaker 17: They give you an afternoon tea and sure that you

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Speaker 17: can't run a three after after afternoon tea. And look,

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Speaker 17: the village ground steppings are just fabulous. I think the

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Speaker 17: county competition over there is extraordinarily strong, and teams from

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Speaker 17: Wales and Scotland participate as well, and they just love

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Speaker 17: their cricket in England.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely brilliant. Jeremy, it sounds magnificent. So, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: know we're in the middle of winter now in New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: but I'm sure this has piacked the interest of those

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Speaker 2: you know over the age of forty. You are quite

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Speaker 2: keen on, you know, continuing their cricket journey. Do you

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Speaker 2: have a website or a way of getting in touch.

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Speaker 17: We've just been in the process of doing a new

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Speaker 17: website for veterans because we've outgrown Ow' justting one, but

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Speaker 17: New Zealand Cricket through their community contact page have got

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Speaker 17: all the details of the coordinators in different areas and

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Speaker 17: we have provincial tournaments as well as the National Games

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Speaker 17: and we go over and play against the Australian State.

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Speaker 17: So there's a lot of cricket and we've got several

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Speaker 17: teams touring here next year from overseas and it just

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Speaker 17: continues to expand and grow. Our biggest issue is accessing

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Speaker 17: all the resources we need in the grounds and the facilities.

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Speaker 2: Well, from a fourteen tournament in Potny eight years ago

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Speaker 2: to where you are now, Jeremy, off to a World

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Speaker 2: Cup next year and lots of involvement for cricketers who

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Speaker 2: want to keep the flame burning. Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for joining us on news talks. He'd be this afternoon

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Speaker 2: and all the best in England next month.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Jason, Thanks Jeremy.

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Wilson, Chairman of New Zealand Veterans Cricket. The Black

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Speaker 2: Calves have beaten you Ganda by nine wickets, reaching forty

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Speaker 2: one for one and the sixth over with Conway and

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Speaker 2: Ravendra together seven and a half away from three.

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Speaker 1: When it's down to the line, you made a call

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Speaker 1: on eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Pine, News Talk.

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Speaker 2: ZB four and a half to three. That's us for

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Speaker 2: Weekend Sport for today, quick look aheads tomorrow. Our guests

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Speaker 2: include Nick Willis, multi Olympian and double Olympic medalist from

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Speaker 2: the fifteen hundred metres, Conrad Smith's on the show tomorrow

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Speaker 2: and what happens today in the Super Rugby and the

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Speaker 2: League We will cover that off as well. Huge thanks

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Speaker 2: to Mark Kelly for producing the show. You get the

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Speaker 2: honor of the exit song Mark, Oh.

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Speaker 21: Thank you by man. This has to be one of

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Speaker 21: the biggest sporting anthems in New Zealand from two thousand

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Speaker 21: and one, sung by Lappie Mariner who fun fact of

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Speaker 21: the day Piney father of Brisbane Broncos winger in center

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Speaker 21: Dean Mariner. This is keeping the whole matter of faith.

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Speaker 21: Huge game tonight. As you mentioned through the show, I

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Speaker 21: haven't been the storm since twenty fifteen and tonight is

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Speaker 21: the night mate.

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Speaker 4: Looking forward to it, enjoy it. We'll see tomorrow folks.

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Speaker 7: What what would

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