WEBVTT - On the Front Foot: Episode 175 0:00:09.133 --> 0:00:12.013 You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sat B. 0:00:12.413 --> 0:00:16.973 Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 0:00:20.133 --> 0:00:22.493 And take an on the pair. Now we don't get in. 0:00:22.933 --> 0:00:24.773 It's a trick. It is out. 0:00:25.093 --> 0:00:30.653 The test is over. Couldn't diss a beauty? It is 0:00:30.693 --> 0:00:31.893 out and. 0:00:31.973 --> 0:00:35.133 Here he goes. This delivery has in the users to goold. 0:00:37.253 --> 0:00:40.653 On the front foot with Brian Wabble and Jeremy Cody 0:00:40.973 --> 0:00:44.853 powered by News Talks head B at iHeartRadio. 0:00:47.133 --> 0:00:50.493 Hello on the front foot, back with you doing Australia 0:00:50.773 --> 0:00:53.173 out for the world secreted but I got a little 0:00:53.213 --> 0:00:57.053 bit Curtains in the black pat Afghanistan the surprise packet 0:00:57.453 --> 0:01:01.053 or are they? What did the associates offer the event? 0:01:01.253 --> 0:01:04.213 Kane Williamson has opted out of a central contract. Has 0:01:04.253 --> 0:01:07.693 he earned that right? And has Test cricket lost its 0:01:07.773 --> 0:01:11.173 favor despite all the top players knowing it's the format 0:01:11.253 --> 0:01:14.493 they enjoyed playing. Remember last week on the Front Foot 0:01:14.653 --> 0:01:19.173 Andrew Wilson and Jeremy Coney passed comment about players and 0:01:19.373 --> 0:01:20.133 their contracts. 0:01:20.933 --> 0:01:23.173 It's sort of ray in one my mind as you 0:01:23.253 --> 0:01:25.933 were saying that you mentioned contracts. Do we now have 0:01:26.093 --> 0:01:29.813 to start thinking of our particularly our T twenty part 0:01:30.013 --> 0:01:33.493 of our game. When you look at it, we've got well, 0:01:33.533 --> 0:01:34.773 I don't know if you know what it's called. It 0:01:34.933 --> 0:01:39.893 changes its name every year. But that domestic game where 0:01:39.973 --> 0:01:43.893 the black Caps don't really play. We don't have a 0:01:44.013 --> 0:01:47.413 franchise game here. We were tracting overseas players for the 0:01:47.493 --> 0:01:52.733 T twenty component of our season. Should we allow some 0:01:52.933 --> 0:01:58.093 of our players to perhaps pop away and play some 0:01:58.253 --> 0:02:02.213 of those and get and rub shoulders in franchise games 0:02:02.293 --> 0:02:06.373 if they can be selected in that level, at that level. 0:02:07.733 --> 0:02:12.613 And me down, Cain Williamson revealed he wasn't signing with NZZ, 0:02:13.133 --> 0:02:17.533 but looking at franchise options while still professing loyalty to 0:02:17.613 --> 0:02:20.213 the New Zealand game. Jeremy Kaine, did you have some 0:02:20.333 --> 0:02:22.173 inside running there and strike a chord with you? 0:02:24.053 --> 0:02:28.613 No? Hello words, high olders, Look, No, I didn't. I 0:02:28.813 --> 0:02:32.973 just felt that I was really talking about, you know 0:02:33.213 --> 0:02:35.573 the fact that Clayer is very near to the New 0:02:35.693 --> 0:02:38.213 Zealand set up, or have perhaps played for New Zealand 0:02:38.253 --> 0:02:42.893 but are not established yet, might think about not playing 0:02:42.973 --> 0:02:47.733 the super smash our T twenty domestic and going to 0:02:47.853 --> 0:02:53.013 other places as part of a pathway to establish themselves 0:02:53.093 --> 0:02:54.973 a little bit better at a stronger tournament. 0:02:55.093 --> 0:02:55.573 That was all. 0:02:56.573 --> 0:02:59.053 But now this has certainly raised it a bit more, 0:02:59.173 --> 0:02:59.533 hasn't it? 0:03:00.093 --> 0:03:02.933 Yes, certainly changes things. Andrew Ornison back with us again. 0:03:03.613 --> 0:03:06.813 I guess something like this was going to happen anyway. 0:03:06.853 --> 0:03:09.773 It's happened with Trent Bolt, hasn't me? Nichem and Kane 0:03:09.813 --> 0:03:14.093 Williamson is deciding his options. I think he's earned the right, 0:03:14.173 --> 0:03:14.453 hasn't he. 0:03:14.773 --> 0:03:16.173 Look, I think he has to a point. 0:03:16.933 --> 0:03:19.973 And I think that New Zealand cricket system, with that 0:03:20.093 --> 0:03:23.573 contract system, that they haven't undermined the integrity by doing 0:03:23.613 --> 0:03:25.573 what they've done. They've basically when you know he wants 0:03:25.613 --> 0:03:28.293 I think about three to four weeks to plan that 0:03:28.413 --> 0:03:32.053 South African League where he's got clearly a deal's that's 0:03:32.173 --> 0:03:35.053 established there. Presumably it's worth a fit of it to 0:03:35.093 --> 0:03:37.613 be able to match what is on for the contract, 0:03:37.653 --> 0:03:41.533 given he'd be the top player. But I think that 0:03:41.613 --> 0:03:43.413 if they were to make an exception there, then it 0:03:43.453 --> 0:03:45.733 would be you know, a further domino effect, if you 0:03:45.853 --> 0:03:48.413 like we were already seeing. Speaking of domino effects, I 0:03:48.493 --> 0:03:51.373 mean we've seen it with like you said, with Bolts 0:03:51.453 --> 0:03:54.133 and Niche, them et cetera over a period of time 0:03:54.853 --> 0:03:59.013 to ground Holm and others. And I suspect that it's 0:03:59.093 --> 0:04:02.573 going to continue to be something that New Zealand cricket 0:04:02.613 --> 0:04:04.173 are going to be to be across. Given the New 0:04:04.253 --> 0:04:07.293 Zealand players don't as much as say the counterparts in 0:04:07.413 --> 0:04:12.133 India or Australia or England and that central contract space, 0:04:13.413 --> 0:04:15.573 there's going to have to be an element of flexibility 0:04:15.693 --> 0:04:18.213 there and Williamson obviously feels that mean presumably he'll add 0:04:18.253 --> 0:04:20.493 others to that if he's not on a contract just 0:04:20.613 --> 0:04:23.173 through the course of the year, but he has I 0:04:23.213 --> 0:04:26.053 think the key difference is he's probably professed his keys 0:04:26.053 --> 0:04:29.613 have still played internationals more so than Trent Bolt when 0:04:29.653 --> 0:04:30.733 he made that decision. 0:04:30.813 --> 0:04:33.693 So yeah, it's a fascinating watching brief. 0:04:35.293 --> 0:04:39.453 The IPL side basically run those South African franchises anyway, 0:04:39.453 --> 0:04:42.373 and I think they're in the United States too, aren't they, Jerry. So, 0:04:42.413 --> 0:04:44.213 I mean it's all a matter of just an extension 0:04:44.253 --> 0:04:45.813 of the IPL to some extent, isn't it. 0:04:46.733 --> 0:04:48.653 Well it is. I don't know whether it will play 0:04:48.693 --> 0:04:52.933 as much wadds as that. I mean, January is the 0:04:53.053 --> 0:04:55.093 time that we're talking about, isn't it in the New 0:04:55.213 --> 0:05:00.373 Zealand season. New Zealand tend to be playing holiday white 0:05:00.413 --> 0:05:03.133 ball cricket, don't they at that time with the Super Smash. 0:05:05.333 --> 0:05:09.053 There are other options of course for players in French cricket, 0:05:09.573 --> 0:05:11.933 whether you know there are three or four going on 0:05:12.053 --> 0:05:15.093 at that time. South Africa has been mentioned, Dubai, the 0:05:15.213 --> 0:05:18.213 ILT twenty is going on, The Big Bash has started 0:05:18.253 --> 0:05:22.413 in December and goes to January, the Bangladesh one as well, 0:05:22.933 --> 0:05:27.973 so there are options there for players. Williamson looks at 0:05:28.053 --> 0:05:31.413 it and says, no, I don't want to play Super 0:05:31.453 --> 0:05:34.093 Smash because at my central contract, says I've got to. 0:05:35.333 --> 0:05:37.093 I don't want to do that. I'm thirty three, I've 0:05:37.093 --> 0:05:39.933 got three kids. I want to do what Bolt's doing, like, 0:05:40.133 --> 0:05:41.973 you know, take the family on the road with me. 0:05:43.413 --> 0:05:45.773 How long does he want to keep doing that? I 0:05:45.933 --> 0:05:48.493 do I don't know whether I question it, but he 0:05:48.573 --> 0:05:51.973 says he wants to prolong his career. Is he merely 0:05:52.133 --> 0:05:56.013 changing from a lower grade T twenty Super Smash now 0:05:56.093 --> 0:05:59.213 for a higher grade and better paid and his family's there? 0:05:59.973 --> 0:06:03.213 I mean, the only thing he's really not playing is Odiyes, 0:06:03.293 --> 0:06:07.133 isn't it. There aren't many of those nowadays he'll miss 0:06:07.213 --> 0:06:10.893 some Sri Lanka, Odouani and t twenties. But yeah, I look, 0:06:11.693 --> 0:06:14.573 I don't know has Bolt. Bolt's got a different arrangement, 0:06:14.693 --> 0:06:18.733 hasn't he? Bolt's not playing the isn't isn't he Wasn't 0:06:18.733 --> 0:06:21.533 he our best left arm bowler, you know, the same 0:06:21.613 --> 0:06:25.613 as the best batsman? Does he get a casual contract? 0:06:26.933 --> 0:06:29.133 Who's his replacement? Now? For New Zealand? 0:06:30.093 --> 0:06:33.253 He gets paid by what contract he takes. Well, he's 0:06:33.253 --> 0:06:34.933 not going to be playing internationally? Is he's not going 0:06:34.973 --> 0:06:37.053 to play tournament stuff? So is he going to play 0:06:37.093 --> 0:06:42.133 anything for New Zealand? And that's just done basically on well, 0:06:42.493 --> 0:06:45.253 we'll pay you this to play this tournament pretty much, 0:06:45.333 --> 0:06:45.613 isn't it. 0:06:46.533 --> 0:06:49.733 I thought Bolt was keen to go and play at 0:06:49.813 --> 0:06:52.213 bay Oval in a test match. Whdn't he said? I'm 0:06:52.253 --> 0:06:55.173 just down the road I like to play, you know. 0:06:55.333 --> 0:06:58.893 So there these are starting to get slightly They're not 0:06:59.093 --> 0:07:03.693 totally muddied waters, but they are slightly Is it the 0:07:03.813 --> 0:07:06.613 case of our best player? You know, one rule for 0:07:06.733 --> 0:07:10.413 one and not for others. You know, I do get 0:07:10.533 --> 0:07:13.653 slightly concerned about are we going to become a wee 0:07:13.853 --> 0:07:18.173 bit like the West Indies and their board having to 0:07:18.333 --> 0:07:22.493 confront lots of players on different contracts. They're trying not 0:07:22.653 --> 0:07:27.213 to but if they are determined about determined about it, 0:07:28.693 --> 0:07:32.533 are players not going to play for their country unable 0:07:32.613 --> 0:07:36.053 to play for them because they're fulfilling franchise arrangements. 0:07:36.733 --> 0:07:39.653 That feels like a fairly valid comparison in the German 0:07:39.693 --> 0:07:41.893 when you mentioned about the Western Indies, because that's when 0:07:41.933 --> 0:07:44.733 you you know, into that second tier of playing nations, 0:07:44.773 --> 0:07:48.773 if you like, at least financially. I was quite pleased 0:07:48.773 --> 0:07:52.613 to hear that Williamson is going to prioritize those tests matters. 0:07:52.613 --> 0:07:55.253 I mean at least eight of the nine of Afghanistan 0:07:55.573 --> 0:07:58.173 potentially he might play that one which we play in 0:07:58.213 --> 0:08:03.533 India from understanding Dylant Cleaver's bouncer article, but that there's 0:08:03.933 --> 0:08:07.413 he'd be playing eight of the nine between now in December, 0:08:07.493 --> 0:08:10.053 so that's a decent way. So that's at least he'll 0:08:10.093 --> 0:08:12.693 be available in that respect. I wonder what the Bold 0:08:12.733 --> 0:08:16.413 situation where it because that was a precedent if both 0:08:16.453 --> 0:08:18.933 parties would perhaps treat that differently. Now if it was 0:08:18.973 --> 0:08:21.973 the case, you know, trying to establish out again. 0:08:22.213 --> 0:08:25.213 Yeah, but availability becomes an issue, doesn't it. I mean, 0:08:25.893 --> 0:08:28.293 are we going to have to be more flexible in 0:08:28.453 --> 0:08:31.333 the future. We're going to get more players who are 0:08:31.373 --> 0:08:35.373 going to do this. You know, what happens in a 0:08:35.453 --> 0:08:37.853 couple of years with Mitchell and Conways for some damn 0:08:37.893 --> 0:08:40.573 good runs, you know, and they wanted to look at it. 0:08:41.213 --> 0:08:43.893 What happens to Saudi when he does he want to deal. 0:08:43.773 --> 0:08:47.293 To you know, we're going to have to look at 0:08:47.333 --> 0:08:52.133 our resources and sort of start thinking about forward planning 0:08:52.373 --> 0:08:53.933 cover like investments. 0:08:54.013 --> 0:08:57.653 You do you know you are we? 0:08:58.293 --> 0:09:02.053 Yeah, exactly are we going to you know, be in 0:09:02.133 --> 0:09:05.813 a situation where we recall Andrew Olderson into the New 0:09:05.893 --> 0:09:09.173 Zealand board and say, look, Andrew older Look, we've got 0:09:09.253 --> 0:09:13.933 a test against Australia next February March, a series against them, 0:09:14.013 --> 0:09:16.413 three tests. We're going to play you this, pay you 0:09:16.533 --> 0:09:21.413 this for it now. That's going to require some maturity 0:09:21.533 --> 0:09:25.013 on all sides to do that, and the ability to 0:09:25.093 --> 0:09:29.813 get on well with each other and playing staff. The 0:09:29.973 --> 0:09:32.973 board selections are going to have to be made carefully 0:09:33.053 --> 0:09:36.133 ahead of time, and then players are going to have 0:09:36.253 --> 0:09:39.093 to rock up in a mature way with the dates 0:09:39.133 --> 0:09:43.693 in their diary saying I am ready to bowl eighteen 0:09:43.733 --> 0:09:46.453 to twenty overs a day. I've been training with the 0:09:46.573 --> 0:09:49.453 red ball, I've played a longer format match and so 0:09:49.613 --> 0:09:52.373 and so I'm ready. Those are going to be some 0:09:52.693 --> 0:09:56.213 I think of the forward sort of thoughts about how 0:09:56.253 --> 0:09:57.773 we're going to have to consider this. 0:09:58.733 --> 0:09:59.333 It'll be interesting. 0:09:59.453 --> 0:10:02.133 I think too that it'll probably not necessarily be dictated 0:10:02.133 --> 0:10:04.413 by New Zealand Cricket, and it might be dictated by 0:10:05.173 --> 0:10:10.373 I guess entrepreneurs and millionaires overseas running these private T 0:10:10.533 --> 0:10:14.373 twenty leagues want being for buck and it'll be a 0:10:14.413 --> 0:10:17.813 trickier proposition. And that's where the global calendar idea has 0:10:17.973 --> 0:10:21.933 becomes so vital if parties can compromise, because it's only. 0:10:21.973 --> 0:10:24.453 Going to become more and more difficult to get this employed. 0:10:24.493 --> 0:10:28.173 I suspect how many times have we heard with global calendar, 0:10:28.213 --> 0:10:30.693 but nobody's ever done anything about it. At the ICC, 0:10:31.173 --> 0:10:33.213 I think they seem more interested in the money and 0:10:33.293 --> 0:10:35.733 the franchise set up. Yeah, they can get from that. 0:10:36.173 --> 0:10:39.493 The other thing is how many New Zealanders are going 0:10:39.573 --> 0:10:43.653 to be part of this IPL type T twenty franchise 0:10:44.093 --> 0:10:46.933 When we had what nine to ten in India for 0:10:47.013 --> 0:10:49.893 the IPL. Hardly any of them played any games, so 0:10:49.973 --> 0:10:52.213 there wouldn't have been big money going around for a 0:10:52.293 --> 0:10:54.533 lot of people. Are many other New Zealander is going 0:10:54.613 --> 0:10:57.773 to be involved in that kind of scenario or. 0:10:57.853 --> 0:11:01.173 To be sorted out, isn't it Wids? Yeah, I mean, 0:11:02.013 --> 0:11:04.093 I mean the only the last point I would make 0:11:04.213 --> 0:11:08.653 is just a sort is that the ICC intentions were 0:11:08.733 --> 0:11:11.813 good to go to America. I mean they want to 0:11:11.853 --> 0:11:15.893 take it to a new outpost, create a new revenue stream. 0:11:17.373 --> 0:11:22.093 And I say that because if it works out, you 0:11:22.253 --> 0:11:27.293 reduce the continual impact and being prone to being held 0:11:27.413 --> 0:11:32.013 to ransom by the big threes. It's you know, that's 0:11:32.173 --> 0:11:36.013 they're always having to bow and scrape to those Big 0:11:36.173 --> 0:11:40.253 three about tournaments where they're held and all sorts of things, 0:11:40.773 --> 0:11:44.933 division of moneies. But as they got something else as well, 0:11:45.053 --> 0:11:48.493 suddenly they got a bit more in, you know, to 0:11:48.733 --> 0:11:51.533 argue backwards. If that works out that way. 0:11:52.933 --> 0:11:55.133 Yeah, interesting stuff and stuff we're probably going to have 0:11:55.213 --> 0:11:58.133 to discuss over a period of time because things are 0:11:58.333 --> 0:12:03.373 moving at not great pace. But the changes, particularly with 0:12:03.453 --> 0:12:08.813 the New Zealand game, the super rights, well all is 0:12:08.933 --> 0:12:11.773 you don't have to worry about explaining this one because 0:12:12.413 --> 0:12:16.773 you weren't invited to give your final four the semi finalists. 0:12:17.333 --> 0:12:22.013 Two of mine have missed out, you see, Australia. So 0:12:22.253 --> 0:12:24.813 I'm looking a little bit sheepish at the four that 0:12:24.933 --> 0:12:26.613 were there. Do you want to let us know what 0:12:26.813 --> 0:12:29.253 you thought was going to be the final four? 0:12:32.213 --> 0:12:34.213 You'll just say the ones that are there. 0:12:36.493 --> 0:12:43.413 Hindsight, Brian, look, I must have been I'm surprised that 0:12:43.493 --> 0:12:46.333 Australia aren't there. I think I've got ust have done 0:12:46.933 --> 0:12:50.253 incredibly well, especially I suppose with the assistance of gooblde 0:12:50.453 --> 0:12:53.453 names Hamstring pulling up at a crucial stage there in 0:12:53.573 --> 0:12:56.653 the in the Manach against Bungledesh which kept going to 0:12:56.693 --> 0:13:00.253 start it in front and Jonathan Trotz Evans to slow 0:13:00.293 --> 0:13:01.373 the game down, et cetera. 0:13:01.773 --> 0:13:04.133 But they have done superbly well all the same to 0:13:04.253 --> 0:13:05.333 even get to that point. 0:13:06.413 --> 0:13:09.453 And yeah, what's what's supposed to Phiziland's good for Australia 0:13:09.453 --> 0:13:13.933 in a regard getting booted by Afghanistan and I mean India, England. 0:13:14.173 --> 0:13:16.493 I think I'm quite surprised even to see in just 0:13:16.533 --> 0:13:18.853 over the course of the tournament, doesn't surprise of it. Beforehand, 0:13:19.533 --> 0:13:22.093 South Africa seemed to have a good balance there and 0:13:22.333 --> 0:13:26.253 have really made the most of their squad and their 0:13:26.293 --> 0:13:29.133 abilities and you know, maybe it is their time and 0:13:29.213 --> 0:13:31.333 what they last won a tournament of the ninety ninety 0:13:31.333 --> 0:13:33.933 eight Champions Trophy, I think back in the day it 0:13:34.053 --> 0:13:37.773 was the first edition. But they've of course struggled in 0:13:37.933 --> 0:13:41.213 the time in between because of the mean, so many 0:13:41.293 --> 0:13:43.413 scenarios where they got close in white ball cricket but 0:13:43.533 --> 0:13:47.013 haven't been able to push on. So yeah, fastinating scenario. 0:13:47.053 --> 0:13:50.373 Then whatsin Africa and Afghanistan and India against England which 0:13:50.373 --> 0:13:53.853 should be a box office material too, So yet it's 0:13:53.933 --> 0:13:55.413 going to be a couple of fascinating prospects. 0:13:55.813 --> 0:13:56.013 Yeah. 0:13:56.093 --> 0:13:59.413 Well, there's been to entertaining games in the most recent 0:13:59.653 --> 0:14:02.773 round and I've got to say I actually did watch 0:14:02.893 --> 0:14:06.773 the Bangladesh Afghanistan game and also the South Africa West 0:14:06.813 --> 0:14:10.813 Indies game had exciting finish to it. Western is was 0:14:10.853 --> 0:14:12.533 one on the sides I picked to actually make the 0:14:12.613 --> 0:14:17.333 four Jeremy along with news Helen. But do you remember 0:14:17.373 --> 0:14:18.573 that did you pick them as well? 0:14:20.013 --> 0:14:22.853 I didn't pick the West and he's no, but I 0:14:22.893 --> 0:14:27.853 did pick Australia and that was a bit of a surprise. 0:14:27.933 --> 0:14:31.773 But they lost to Afghanistan. Well done, Afghanistan, that was 0:14:31.813 --> 0:14:35.773 a fantastic game. I watched the South Africa West Indies 0:14:35.853 --> 0:14:41.053 match two wards, a very tight match and South Africa 0:14:41.093 --> 0:14:43.973 have now won seven out of seven close games, haven't they. 0:14:44.933 --> 0:14:46.893 And I guess that gives them a bit of bit 0:14:47.013 --> 0:14:49.453 of confidence and belief that someone will get it done. 0:14:50.093 --> 0:14:54.053 They keep finding ways to win, but they haven't really 0:14:54.133 --> 0:14:58.013 finished matches clinically, that's the downside of that. I guess 0:14:59.653 --> 0:15:02.013 they've got Dakop getting a few runs, but they've got 0:15:02.493 --> 0:15:04.733 cameos coming from the others. It'd be nice if one 0:15:04.773 --> 0:15:07.373 of them went on. I would have thought. Keep losing 0:15:07.413 --> 0:15:12.573 wickets so that keeps the opposition and interested. I think 0:15:13.133 --> 0:15:16.453 a couple of things have got them through spin Maharaj 0:15:16.533 --> 0:15:21.093 and Shamsi and also Markroom bowling himself. I thought that 0:15:21.253 --> 0:15:25.733 was they bowled twelve overs of spin against the West 0:15:25.773 --> 0:15:29.533 Indies who struggled against the spin, didn't they And they 0:15:29.653 --> 0:15:32.493 got lots of dot balls they can't maneuver around. And 0:15:33.493 --> 0:15:36.573 Markram's captaincy I think has been a very important part 0:15:36.653 --> 0:15:36.973 of all that. 0:15:37.893 --> 0:15:40.453 Yeah, Afghanistan have proven that you don't have to have 0:15:41.333 --> 0:15:43.733 a ribbon bust approach to opening your innas what have 0:15:43.773 --> 0:15:46.013 they got three century partnerships at the top of the 0:15:46.173 --> 0:15:49.293 order and it's been good quality betting. Probably run a 0:15:49.333 --> 0:15:53.333 ball there. It's not been heavy hitting by the top 0:15:53.413 --> 0:15:57.133 order players and that's been a proof of that. How 0:15:57.173 --> 0:16:00.573 do you see the semifinals now? Orders will put you 0:16:00.613 --> 0:16:06.933 on the spot with this one. The two semi finals Afghanistan? 0:16:06.973 --> 0:16:09.453 Are they no longer a surprise package? Can they beat you? 0:16:09.453 --> 0:16:10.493 Ell ever again? Oh? 0:16:10.573 --> 0:16:12.653 Look, they can, but I'll be picking South Africa on 0:16:12.733 --> 0:16:15.733 that one, just for the reasons Jeremy's mentioned there with 0:16:15.813 --> 0:16:18.733 the spin options. I mean also they're past bowling too. 0:16:19.093 --> 0:16:21.973 I like the look of that in the fact that 0:16:22.013 --> 0:16:24.973 they've had that real tough run through and been able 0:16:25.013 --> 0:16:30.173 to triumph in those games close contests. But Afghanistan, I 0:16:30.253 --> 0:16:32.653 suppose you could still consider them a surprise package. I 0:16:32.733 --> 0:16:34.493 mentioned there's been a fit bit more scouting done on 0:16:34.573 --> 0:16:38.173 them since they're opening New Zealand will win that they 0:16:38.253 --> 0:16:41.533 were able to succeed with. I've been really impressed with 0:16:41.613 --> 0:16:45.093 Ferruki the left arm with the ball and changes the pace, 0:16:45.173 --> 0:16:48.093 but also just his his venom that he's able to 0:16:48.173 --> 0:16:51.773 display there over the wicket took him to the right hand, 0:16:51.813 --> 0:16:55.573 as I've thought, you know, Rashid Khan coming of age. 0:16:55.373 --> 0:16:59.373 And really proving his pedigree as well in leading. 0:16:59.173 --> 0:17:01.973 That side, and you know with his four wicketsl a 0:17:02.093 --> 0:17:04.453 day and the crucial match against bung A Dish and 0:17:04.573 --> 0:17:06.813 just when we talk about South Africa having close wins, 0:17:07.293 --> 0:17:09.213 I've got to stay able to hold on. Most recently 0:17:09.253 --> 0:17:12.573 again Spugledies suggests that they've got the pedigree, they've got 0:17:12.613 --> 0:17:16.173 the medal to be able to withstand that pressure as well. 0:17:16.333 --> 0:17:19.613 So I'm looking forward to that as a contest for sure. 0:17:20.373 --> 0:17:24.133 What about the other seaming orders, I just have to 0:17:24.173 --> 0:17:25.933 look at India. I think just that they seem like 0:17:26.013 --> 0:17:28.613 such a jugg andau it's so balanced across the park. 0:17:28.653 --> 0:17:32.533 I mean just seeing what Rowisham was able to dispatch 0:17:32.533 --> 0:17:35.133 it a day with his ninety two off forty one. 0:17:35.973 --> 0:17:39.333 But I think they're just in such good forms, such 0:17:39.333 --> 0:17:40.173 a good rhythm from. 0:17:40.053 --> 0:17:44.333 The IPL going straight into this as opposed to England 0:17:44.373 --> 0:17:46.573 who have had a bit of a stop start to 0:17:46.813 --> 0:17:51.333 They had me help by weather on occasion. But I 0:17:51.533 --> 0:17:53.973 just feel like the pressure may get to them and 0:17:54.293 --> 0:17:57.693 I think that India certainly you know the strong round 0:17:57.853 --> 0:17:59.693 all bit that they're now moving down into the western 0:17:59.733 --> 0:18:02.293 HEAs having played that initial part of the tournament in America, 0:18:02.373 --> 0:18:05.333 particularly in New York on the sluggish wickets that we 0:18:05.453 --> 0:18:08.493 saw there. But I'd still back India and that so 0:18:09.293 --> 0:18:12.013 I guess one on one situation, so effectively for me, 0:18:12.373 --> 0:18:13.973 it'll be an into South Africa final. 0:18:15.253 --> 0:18:17.893 Yep, that's fair enough. What do you reckon, Jerry? Pretty 0:18:17.973 --> 0:18:21.133 much the same? I think I follow that line of reasoning. 0:18:22.253 --> 0:18:26.333 Yeah, the second semi India England at Providence, when New 0:18:26.373 --> 0:18:31.853 Zealand of course played first, that's the one that there's 0:18:32.293 --> 0:18:37.373 no it's a day game there, so it usually holds 0:18:37.493 --> 0:18:40.533 up a little bit more. And I think that England 0:18:40.573 --> 0:18:45.533 will come into trouble with the spinners, particularly India have 0:18:45.773 --> 0:18:52.493 at Providence of Aksha cool Deeper's bowling beautifully Jadasia and 0:18:52.613 --> 0:18:55.813 then of course there's seams born around Arshdeep Arshtep's getting 0:18:55.813 --> 0:18:57.773 a few wickets, isn't he. But I think a lot 0:18:57.853 --> 0:19:00.813 on the English and middle order. I think the left 0:19:00.933 --> 0:19:03.933 arm spinners the best I will will concern him a bit, 0:19:05.613 --> 0:19:09.293 will handle any left arm wrist spin will handle left 0:19:09.333 --> 0:19:13.373 and right hand They can change the deliveries. Livingstone important 0:19:13.413 --> 0:19:16.613 as well, so India should have too much for England. 0:19:17.013 --> 0:19:22.333 I think first one much more, much tighter again at 0:19:22.373 --> 0:19:25.813 an area. New Zealand plan a night game, a game 0:19:25.933 --> 0:19:28.293 where they get one hundred and ninety minutes at the 0:19:28.413 --> 0:19:31.453 end and that's about it. You know, they get the 0:19:31.533 --> 0:19:33.693 extra day. Sorry, they get the extra day the next 0:19:33.773 --> 0:19:40.173 day because they're playing earlier. So Taruba. Look, I think 0:19:40.293 --> 0:19:44.133 Afghanistan have got a chance there. I think Naven hasn't 0:19:44.173 --> 0:19:47.053 been mentioned yet, but he got four wickets the other 0:19:47.213 --> 0:19:50.773 night and he's very useful to left handers because he 0:19:50.853 --> 0:19:53.133 can come around the wicket and get swing. Look how 0:19:53.173 --> 0:19:55.133 he bold head the other night. I don't know whether 0:19:55.173 --> 0:19:59.533 you saw that. I think he's better than you. They've 0:19:59.533 --> 0:20:01.693 got a terrific slower ball that got a wicket the 0:20:01.773 --> 0:20:06.333 other night as well against Bangladesh. So I think that 0:20:06.453 --> 0:20:07.653 could be a tighter game. 0:20:08.453 --> 0:20:08.653 Less. 0:20:08.693 --> 0:20:12.093 South Africa play with a more clinical kind of way 0:20:12.173 --> 0:20:13.253 than they have so far. 0:20:14.573 --> 0:20:18.253 Just a finishing point on the woralty twenty. The Associate 0:20:18.373 --> 0:20:21.413 Nations being there, has it add anything to it? Has 0:20:21.453 --> 0:20:23.413 it done what cricket wanted to do? Do you think 0:20:24.053 --> 0:20:26.253 all as you had some reservations. I remember hearing you 0:20:26.733 --> 0:20:29.773 say about the tourment being in America and you changed 0:20:29.853 --> 0:20:31.733 your mind a little bit, didn't you on that. 0:20:33.293 --> 0:20:37.133 Yeah, I still have some reservations, but then I mean, 0:20:37.333 --> 0:20:39.773 who doesn't love a feel good story like the United 0:20:39.813 --> 0:20:42.173 States going through to that super right stage. 0:20:42.173 --> 0:20:44.893 I mean, that was that was a terrific performance. 0:20:45.213 --> 0:20:47.493 I mean there are some some of the weaker sizes, 0:20:47.573 --> 0:20:50.293 but you've just got to accept that with the the 0:20:51.493 --> 0:20:53.853 the way it's going in the end, ICC wants to 0:20:53.933 --> 0:20:57.333 open it up two more teams and to get them involved, 0:20:57.773 --> 0:21:01.493 and I think that, yes, it does. I still do 0:21:01.613 --> 0:21:04.653 have reservations, but I think that, yeah, there have been 0:21:04.733 --> 0:21:06.573 some positive points from that to be able to take 0:21:06.653 --> 0:21:09.933 out of it. And yeah, Cricket's looking to grow the game, 0:21:09.973 --> 0:21:14.493 which is clearly the mission and the directive that they 0:21:14.533 --> 0:21:17.533 want to work with at the ICC. Well, I think 0:21:17.573 --> 0:21:20.173 that's something that they'll pursue over a period of time 0:21:20.293 --> 0:21:20.613 for sure. 0:21:22.053 --> 0:21:25.933 Well, all his views on the associates, there are a 0:21:26.013 --> 0:21:29.053 number of their pnng You, Ganda had a win, Nepal, 0:21:29.733 --> 0:21:33.573 Netherlands had to win, Namibia, Amman, Canada had a win 0:21:33.613 --> 0:21:38.093 in Scotland had a win. They extended the tournament, but 0:21:39.053 --> 0:21:43.013 did they add much in terms of the competition and 0:21:43.493 --> 0:21:44.613 having it in America? 0:21:45.653 --> 0:21:46.093 How did that. 0:21:47.973 --> 0:21:51.453 Contribute to the contests all around? 0:21:52.013 --> 0:21:53.693 Yeah, well, you know my feelings a little bit on 0:21:53.813 --> 0:21:58.533 this on I'm right behind the ICC and expanding the 0:21:58.653 --> 0:22:05.973 tournament as far as that the associates go on their 0:22:06.053 --> 0:22:09.413 performances and it will always going to be one side. 0:22:09.493 --> 0:22:14.893 It's slightly lopsided results, but you know, you start you 0:22:15.013 --> 0:22:17.093 start to look at those some of those things that 0:22:17.213 --> 0:22:22.813 you mentioned. You know, Namibia nearly beating Scotland, Scotland, you know, 0:22:23.293 --> 0:22:28.533 nearly beating Australia's There's all those kinds of Netherlands nearly 0:22:28.693 --> 0:22:33.013 down in South Africa, Canada beating Ireland, Nepal just one 0:22:33.173 --> 0:22:36.333 run away from beating South Africa and tying with them, 0:22:36.933 --> 0:22:40.453 Nepal three runs shorts, and you know against that, they 0:22:40.573 --> 0:22:44.773 go on and on. So so yes, mismatches and over 0:22:44.933 --> 0:22:50.973 quickly USA getting through. But I think, for about the 0:22:51.093 --> 0:22:54.933 first time in a while now, this felt to me 0:22:55.853 --> 0:22:59.813 like a World's Cup, you know this, this felt as 0:22:59.853 --> 0:23:03.253 if we were getting a much bigger range of teams. 0:23:03.853 --> 0:23:08.053 And with that, I've talked about the results from them. 0:23:08.093 --> 0:23:11.733 But at the same time, you know, the icc of 0:23:11.853 --> 0:23:15.533