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Speaker 2: Hello on the front foot, back with you doing Australia

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Speaker 2: out for the world secreted but I got a little

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Speaker 2: bit Curtains in the black pat Afghanistan the surprise packet

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Speaker 2: or are they? What did the associates offer the event?

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Speaker 2: Kane Williamson has opted out of a central contract. Has

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Speaker 2: he earned that right? And has Test cricket lost its

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Speaker 2: favor despite all the top players knowing it's the format

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Speaker 2: they enjoyed playing. Remember last week on the Front Foot

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Speaker 2: Andrew Wilson and Jeremy Coney passed comment about players and

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Speaker 2: their contracts.

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Speaker 4: It's sort of ray in one my mind as you

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Speaker 4: were saying that you mentioned contracts. Do we now have

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Speaker 4: to start thinking of our particularly our T twenty part

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Speaker 4: of our game. When you look at it, we've got well,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you know what it's called. It

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Speaker 4: changes its name every year. But that domestic game where

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Speaker 4: the black Caps don't really play. We don't have a

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Speaker 4: franchise game here. We were tracting overseas players for the

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Speaker 4: T twenty component of our season. Should we allow some

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Speaker 4: of our players to perhaps pop away and play some

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Speaker 4: of those and get and rub shoulders in franchise games

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Speaker 4: if they can be selected in that level, at that level.

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Speaker 2: And me down, Cain Williamson revealed he wasn't signing with NZZ,

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Speaker 2: but looking at franchise options while still professing loyalty to

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand game. Jeremy Kaine, did you have some

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Speaker 2: inside running there and strike a chord with you?

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Speaker 4: No? Hello words, high olders, Look, No, I didn't. I

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Speaker 4: just felt that I was really talking about, you know

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Speaker 4: the fact that Clayer is very near to the New

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Speaker 4: but are not established yet, might think about not playing

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Speaker 4: other places as part of a pathway to establish themselves

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Speaker 4: a little bit better at a stronger tournament.

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Speaker 3: That was all.

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Speaker 4: But now this has certainly raised it a bit more,

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Speaker 2: Yes, certainly changes things. Andrew Ornison back with us again.

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Speaker 2: I guess something like this was going to happen anyway.

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Speaker 2: It's happened with Trent Bolt, hasn't me? Nichem and Kane

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Speaker 2: Williamson is deciding his options. I think he's earned the right,

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Speaker 5: Look, I think he has to a point.

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Speaker 6: And I think that New Zealand cricket system, with that

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Speaker 6: I think about three to four weeks to plan that

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Speaker 6: given he'd be the top player. But I think that

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Speaker 2: The IPL side basically run those South African franchises anyway,

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Speaker 4: There are other options of course for players in French cricket,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to do that. I'm thirty three, I've

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Speaker 4: How long does he want to keep doing that? I

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Speaker 4: Who's his replacement? Now? For New Zealand?

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Speaker 2: He gets paid by what contract he takes. Well, he's

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Speaker 4: So there these are starting to get slightly They're not

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Speaker 6: That feels like a fairly valid comparison in the German

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but availability becomes an issue, doesn't it. I mean,

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Speaker 4: What happens to Saudi when he does he want to deal.

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Speaker 3: You do you know you are we?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly are we going to you know, be in

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Speaker 4: this for it now. That's going to require some maturity

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Speaker 5: Going to become more and more difficult to get this employed.

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Speaker 2: I suspect how many times have we heard with global calendar,

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Speaker 2: The other thing is how many New Zealanders are going

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Speaker 4: To be sorted out, isn't it Wids? Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 4: And I say that because if it works out, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting stuff and stuff we're probably going to have

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Speaker 4: five to six miles away from the park. Now the

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Speaker 4: people still went. Two of them sold out and there

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Speaker 4: were reasonable numbers at the others, but you know, police

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Speaker 4: were pretty officious. From there on. It was hard to

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Speaker 4: it was quite expensive to some of the games. So

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Speaker 4: look and then of course there were the pictures. There

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Speaker 4: was rain down in Florida at Fort Lauderdale, so three

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Speaker 4: days were lost there. So it ends up being a

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Speaker 4: bit of a kick start, you know. It was an

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Speaker 4: effort to try and to go there. The Americans will

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Speaker 4: be more aware of cricket because of it, because the

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Speaker 4: USA got through. I think that will help a great deal.

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Speaker 4: And so I don't, I don't. I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: be too harsh on the ICC for that. I think

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Speaker 4: that it's actually been a much bit of tournament for

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Speaker 4: me to watch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they have to make those endeavors and they have

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Speaker 2: to take those opportunities. I'm not sure that it had

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Speaker 2: quite the impact on the Americans as they would have

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Speaker 2: been hoping. I've got a son who lives in America

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Speaker 2: and he said trying to get the television coverage and

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Speaker 2: buying the coverage was very difficult. Just finding out where

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Speaker 2: it was available made it tough. That the American television system,

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Speaker 2: unless you've got access to that sort of stuff, it

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Speaker 2: is quite difficult for Americans to do. But well, it's

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Speaker 2: obviously been a reasonably successful event and we'll just have

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Speaker 2: to wait and see what comes out of the final

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Speaker 2: and what comes in the wash up, because it is

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Speaker 2: likely to happen again.

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Speaker 3: Brian Waddle, Jeremy Coney on the front foot.

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Speaker 2: So the World t twitty coming to an end, and

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Speaker 2: we've been through the semi finals. A little bit earlier,

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Speaker 2: just before we go orders, who went, oh.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to take do you know what I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: go out, and I'm going to say South Africa. I

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Speaker 6: just think that maybe it's their time. I mean, I

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Speaker 6: think we're hard to peer back India given that. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: they've all come to ther ipl they're Metxford, They're they're

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Speaker 6: raring to go. But I just like the look of

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Speaker 6: South Africa being together there and just having put together

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Speaker 6: so much consistency I suppose over the course of the tournament.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, maybe it's it's the heart versus the head

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Speaker 6: type argument, but yeah, I just give me.

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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 2: Two chokers there, Jerry, two chokers India and South over again.

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Speaker 4: Look, heart would love love South Africa. Kids, is India.

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Speaker 4: I'm afraid nightgame at Bridgetown a pitch. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 4: I think India. But boy been lovely. If South Africa

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Speaker 4: could do it, I don't care.

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Speaker 2: They're looking after their brains and forgetting about the heart tools.

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Speaker 2: We'll done, guys. We'll see next with you the winners

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Speaker 2: and who was correct? Thanks for joining us all us, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Cheers, honors, alright, thanks guy, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Cheers.

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