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Speaker 1: Kiota. I'm Chelsea Daniels and from the team behind the

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Speaker 1: front page. The New Zealand Herald's daily news podcast, This

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Speaker 1: Is Accused The Polkinghorn Trial. Over six weeks. In conjunction

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Speaker 1: with our usual daily episodes, we'll be bringing you regular

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Speaker 1: coverage as one of the most high profile trials of

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Speaker 1: the year makes its way through the High Court at Auckland.

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Speaker 1: A warning, this podcast contains disturbing content. The end of

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Speaker 1: the shortened fourth week in the trial of Philip Polkinghorn

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Speaker 1: traverses a range of topics. He's accused of murdering his wife,

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Speaker 1: Pauline Hannah in April twenty twenty one, but maintains she

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Speaker 1: took her own life. We'll hear more on the couple's finances,

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Speaker 1: the dark sides of meth use, a sex take, Google

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Speaker 1: searches about infidelity, and a series of intimate letters between

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Speaker 1: a husband and a wife. Margaret Skelton's cross examination continued

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Speaker 1: on day eighteen. You'll remember she's a forensic accountant. Ron

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Speaker 1: Mansfield began by walking through spending by Hannah. It included

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Speaker 1: purchases like women's wear, dry cleaning, skincare, hair and beauty.

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Speaker 1: For example, spending in twenty nineteen covers a little over

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Speaker 1: thirty three thousand dollars of spending on items attributable to her.

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Speaker 1: He said in twenty twenty it was about forty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: So you would agree with me that missus Pulkinhorn obviously

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Speaker 2: had access to that ad ADO account and was able

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Speaker 2: to draw or make purchase in relation to various items

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Speaker 2: that appeared to be relating to.

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Speaker 3: Who and so far as put what's going on here? Yes,

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Speaker 3: thank you.

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Speaker 1: Mansfield runs through payments to the women who appeared as

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Speaker 1: regular payees, nearly three hundred thousand dollars paid out over

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Speaker 1: a five year period. He asked Skilton about whether she

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Speaker 1: looked into what happened to the money transferred after it

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Speaker 1: hit the women's bank accounts. She didn't.

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Speaker 3: No, I didn't because that wasn't what we were seeking,

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Speaker 3: the information we were seeking, and frequently it would be

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Speaker 2: But you didn't actually apply for their banking vehicles to

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: Mansfield runs through the names Madison Lee Alaria Jodi. We

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Speaker 1: don't really know what the payments were for because.

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Speaker 2: How she applied the money might provide some indication as

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Speaker 1: A product correct, correct?

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Speaker 2: So were you able to tell us whether that payment

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Speaker 3: Was nothing on the bank statement to indicate what it.

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Speaker 2: Was for, and you took no further investigations, So from

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Speaker 2: your work, we don't know.

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Speaker 1: Correct. Mansfield suggests they could have been loans with payments

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Speaker 1: made back to Polkinghorn. After some time, he asked Skelton

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Speaker 1: whether she knew anything about the Ilaria family trust and

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Speaker 1: She didn't. The Crown called addiction specialist Emma Schwartz to

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Speaker 1: and gave evidence about the effects and manifestations of meth use.

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Speaker 1: You'll remember Polkinghorn admitted to two charges covering meth and

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Speaker 1: meth pipe found in his home. A friend and colleague

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Speaker 1: found in the couple's Remueerra home. Schwartz says meth is

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Speaker 4: And if we want to compare it to other things

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Speaker 1: Smoking or injecting math hits you in seconds, she said.

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Speaker 1: The euphoria or high experienced in those seconds is what

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Speaker 4: We might see in someone wide pupils. Their eyes might

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Speaker 1: Compared to other stimulants. Math lasts so much longer, she said,

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Speaker 4: you're getting a couple of hours at most. Where's methamphetamine

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Speaker 1: Schwarz said. Within the stimulant class, it's extremely and dedictive.

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Speaker 1: It affects different people in different ways. If you use

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Speaker 4: Often the person has been quite sleep deprived when they're

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Speaker 1: Schwartz said, people talk about using meth in points. That's

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Speaker 4: The other really important study is actually a New Zealand study,

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Speaker 1: On cross examination, Ron Mansfield asked whether the adverse impacts

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Speaker 1: of meth use depend on the dose and regularity. Schwartz agreed.

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Speaker 1: Mansfield referred to wastewater drug testing results from New Zealand

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Speaker 1: About nine thy two hundred grams of math is being

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Speaker 1: For coverage of other news events in New Zealand, including

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Speaker 1: the stand was Police Constable Madeline Palmer. She was tasked

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Speaker 1: with examining tech belonging to the couple. She begins with

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Speaker 1: a MacBook pro belonging to Philip Polkinghorn. There was a

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Speaker 1: emails exchanged between Hannah and Polkinghorn between ten and eleven

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Speaker 5: At two forty eight am on the second of April,

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Speaker 5: a Google search was conducted for in zid escorts. In

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Speaker 2: That's just how you identified that on the laptop.

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Speaker 5: That's the data title in the laptop devices. The laptop

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Speaker 5: was also used to watch a video titled pink varionated

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Speaker 5: At eight forty five pm on the same day, Polkinhorn

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Speaker 1: Palmer found images screen grabs from a mobile phone of

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Speaker 1: There was a spattering of documents relating to auckland Eye,

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Speaker 1: I've clipped some of the references for you.

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Speaker 2: First one you've got here is how do you keep

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Speaker 2: And that date of twenty eight of October twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: Yes, the date is twenty eighth tenth, twenty twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: Help us with the next? Please, best Life online science?

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Speaker 5: So that's the URL meaning the site access. So this

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Speaker 5: The search is how to cope when things go wrong?

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Speaker 5: Is a website a psychological Psychology Today website with the

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Speaker 2: You tell us what there is?

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Speaker 5: Asthet again is on the Psychology Today website. How reading

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Speaker 1: In November twenty twenty, a search why do people trample

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Speaker 1: inner workings. A letter seemingly from Philip to Pauline begins,

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Speaker 5: I felt increasingly devoid in the last few months of

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Speaker 1: It goes on to say, onto the day to day stuff,

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Speaker 5: I'm concerned you don't really listen to me. You don't

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Speaker 1: It then goes on to say, for many years you

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Speaker 1: Ever, it goes on in twenty five years, I don't

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Speaker 5: Yes, your contempt of money does annoy me. Even stating

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Speaker 5: Dare I say, denying me a discounted flight. I have

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Speaker 5: come to the recognition, belatedly that you are not going

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Speaker 1: It then mentions a three day a retreat like course

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Speaker 1: A document called Philip appears to be a letter addressed

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Speaker 5: Spending more time at the beach, being grandparents and really

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Speaker 1: It goes on to mention some ugly times in the

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Speaker 1: And you say people don't change. That is correct, but

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Speaker 5: For example, I keep my car full. I keep fifty

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Speaker 5: So oh, sorry, you were everything to me and you

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Speaker 5: Please make it now before thirty one January so that

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Speaker 1: cross examination, Ron Mansfield takes Palmer through various documents. Auckland

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Speaker 2: The reason I'm doing this is because we've heard quite

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Speaker 2: But we can say this document.

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Speaker 1: He then goes into some search history from Hannah's laptop.

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Speaker 2: So if one search is the word sex on Missus

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Speaker 5: Correct based on the document provided, Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 1: He goes on the word escorts yields two results.

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Speaker 2: Now you'll be aware, as a police officer that sometimes

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Speaker 2: seeking interest in their services. Are you aware of that? No,

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Speaker 2: it was not, I'm told, But this final document uses

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to produce that as an also thank

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Speaker 1: Mansfield has signaled he'll be talking more to these documents

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Speaker 1: will just summarize a few parts for you. You can

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Speaker 1: and saying, are you talking to me? After the kiss

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Speaker 1: on Friday night? We must have lunch on Thursday. It

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Speaker 1: mentions taking a taxi to the French cafe on the Thursday.

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Speaker 1: It says, she tells the taxi driver, I am about

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Speaker 1: to make a decision that is going to affect the

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Speaker 1: rest of my life. It reads, Philip took my hand,

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Speaker 1: heart flipping, I was sold and the rest is what

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Speaker 1: we have. It goes on to mention family, their life.

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Speaker 1: We have been going through some tough times. It reads,

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Speaker 1: I thought we were a unit. It then goes on

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Speaker 1: to detail a couple of instances. It reads, what he

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Speaker 1: said to me that night was not only devastating, and

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Speaker 1: there was lots of it, but the key thing that

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Speaker 1: hurt was our last twenty five years is a waste

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Speaker 1: of time. It was incredible. I almost still cannot take

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Speaker 1: it in.

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Speaker 2: And we've got that reference too. Then all hel broke loose.

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Speaker 2: I have not behaved as he wanted, and I cry,

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Speaker 2: I'm gutted. Been holding it in for so long? Can

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Speaker 2: you see that? Yes, then that is wrong. So that's

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Speaker 2: the crime, holding it in. And he is angry and

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Speaker 2: doesn't want to name me or my issues for me

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Speaker 2: for that matter, and then it reads who who's in

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Speaker 2: fact ricked all these brackets? Twenty seven? Did I get

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Speaker 2: it wrong? That he was the truly loved me as

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Speaker 2: is number one? I was number one in someone's life

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Speaker 2: as he was in mind? Have we got that wrong?

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Speaker 2: Question mark? Question mark? God, what a prospect dash? I

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Speaker 2: cannot live if that is the result that if I

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Speaker 2: have got it wrong? So those are who words correct?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 1: The Crown then called Detective Andrew Reeves. He examined mobile

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Speaker 1: phones belonging to Polkinghorn, a phone belonging to Hannah, a laptop,

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Speaker 1: eleven external hard drives and USB drives. He starts with

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Speaker 1: polking Horn's iPhone.

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Speaker 6: There were eight hundred and twenty six images of adult pornography.

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Speaker 6: There were approximately three thousand, six hundred and eighty six

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Speaker 6: images of sexual nature, and included in the title were

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Speaker 6: three thous five hundred and twenty five images from something

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Speaker 6: called cam sites, which are paid subscription sites where people

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Speaker 6: form themselves. The majority of those images were of women naked,

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Speaker 6: party naked, or.

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Speaker 1: Masturbating on the videos. Reeves found more than three thousand,

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Speaker 1: five hundred on Polkinghorn's phone. They included ones of Ashton

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Speaker 1: in various states of undress and performing sex acts.

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Speaker 6: There was then two further videos which were again of

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Speaker 6: that laptop with the screenplaying, and a video of miss

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Speaker 6: Ashton essentially modeling underwear and walking around in lingerie, and

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Speaker 6: it involved a sex act by mister Polkinghorn. While watching

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Speaker 6: the video.

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Speaker 2: What was it? Metad out of date for that creation.

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Speaker 6: The twenty seventh of the second twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: One, Reeves looked at different messages on the phone. He

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Speaker 1: focuses on some between Alaria and Polkinghorn.

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Speaker 6: The e text messages were between the eleventh April twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty one and fifteenth of April, and approximately just after

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Speaker 6: ten pm ten oh three pm on the twelfth of

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Speaker 6: April twenty twenty one, mister Polkinghorn texted missus Pop Constantino

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Speaker 6: and said, Hi, I know it's late, but are you

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Speaker 6: still I was thinking of ubering over. So it was

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Speaker 6: the day of that one, twelfth of April twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: This was just seven days after Hannah's death. There were

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Speaker 1: numerous WhatsApp messages between Polkinghorn and Madison Ashton, but Reeves

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Speaker 1: said he was unable to find any from before April fifth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, when Hannah was found dead. On that day,

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Speaker 1: messages begin about four to twenty eight pm. Ashton sends

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Speaker 1: polking Horn a link to an image of herself in

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Speaker 1: a swimsuit. More messages in the days after Hannah's death,

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Speaker 1: photos of a Lambshank recipe, she's cooking for her children

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Speaker 1: or her two Chihuahua dogs.

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Speaker 6: Four twenty am. In the morning of the seventh of April,

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Speaker 6: She's foughted an article in stuff which talks about them,

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Speaker 6: of the death and how the post mortem is going

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Speaker 6: to be carried out.

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Speaker 1: Reeves moves on through pages of messages between the pair.

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Speaker 1: More messages, photos of Ashton's dogs, references to her at

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Speaker 1: a salon, selfie's a plastic surgery procedure. On April eight,

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Speaker 1: Polkinghorn says his sister Ruth spent hours with police that day.

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Speaker 1: He tells her police won't release the post mortem results

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Speaker 1: to his QC, so they're going to try and arrange

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Speaker 1: another autopsy. Ashton sends information about plastic surgery treatments on

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Speaker 1: April ten. The messages continue daily over a page thirty two.

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Speaker 6: Now on this page a link again is sent from

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Speaker 6: doctor Polkinghorn via WhatsApp it's a video and I'm not

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Speaker 6: actually sure what that is. Then Miss Ashton replies, honestly,

523
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 6: I really love you, and then she responds, do not

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Speaker 6: wear an iffing bow tie at the funeral.

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Speaker 5: Keep the hat.

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Speaker 1: On April thirteen, she sends a photo it's inside of

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Speaker 1: a fridge, presumably hers. It's dirty, something spilled.

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Speaker 6: Sends another photo from a different angle, and then straight

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Speaker 6: after that follows up with let's come up with home duties.

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Speaker 1: Who does what? Which one is that?

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Speaker 5: So that's page thirty six.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's some of the thirteenth thirty PM.

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Speaker 6: Yes, she sends a message talking about home duties. Shortly

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Speaker 6: after that, Doctor Pokinghorn replies, don't recognize that refrigerator must

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00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 6: be the neighbors, obviously, in reference to the photos of

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Speaker 6: the dirty inside of the refrigerator. Possession replies don't. And

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Speaker 6: then a bit later, at eleven twenty two pm, doctor

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Speaker 6: Polkinhorn replies with I am good at ironing and grocery shopping,

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00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 6: putting the rubbish out, and can cook. I am very

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00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 6: good at judging shakes and can freeze bananas. I can

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Speaker 6: water plants, watch dogs pick up poos point out the imperfections.

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00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 6: I'm a natural at ignoring the obvious spotting expired milk

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Speaker 6: reading history, and he then follows that up with I

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Speaker 6: will run the picture past the refrigeration engineer again obviously

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Speaker 6: in reference to the dirty fridge.

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Speaker 1: On April fifteen, she says, good day, darling.

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Speaker 6: The later on the fifteenth, doctor Polkinhorn says, I will

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Speaker 6: call you in about two hours, that's at five or

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Speaker 6: eight pm. On the fifteenth of April, at five fifty

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Speaker 6: five pm, Mistation replies with, I just remember that you're

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Speaker 6: at the service. Would have been a big day. I

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Speaker 6: believe this is in reference to the funeral server for

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Speaker 6: Pauline Hanner message at ten fifteen pm from doctor Tolkinghorn

554
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 6: saying I've been having back as I thought I would

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00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 6: have some good news. Unfortunately, in spite of promises, not

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Speaker 6: the case. That's late on the evening of the fifteenth,

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Speaker 6: at ten to fifteen pm, the Session replies with, oh,

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Speaker 6: that's through disappointing. Only consolation you have is that it's

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Speaker 6: nearly over. At least you knew coming into this that

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00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 6: it was going to be a shitty day. And then XOXO,

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Speaker 6: love view a whole.

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Speaker 1: Lot Polkinhorn's phone was taken by police on April sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Reeves also explains some Google searches on twenty seventh of

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Speaker 1: March twenty twenty one, how the brain controls pleasure, another

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00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 1: search for how to change the password on a Mac,

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Speaker 1: A search for Christine McQueen's OnlyFans account. On April fifth,

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Speaker 1: about five pm, a search for how to delete iCloud storage.

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Speaker 1: The time correlates with him leaving the police station after

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Speaker 1: his recorded police interview, the one we saw earlier in

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Speaker 1: the trial. On April six, there's another search how to

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Speaker 1: record on iPhone and how to transfer iCloud storage on

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Speaker 1: a new Mac laptop, and then a search on duck

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Speaker 1: Duck Go. It's a search engine designed not to be trackable.

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Speaker 1: It's all about privacy, Reeves said, but only when you

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Speaker 1: use the app.

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Speaker 2: The I phone twelve Safari search had been deleted on the.

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Speaker 6: Device correct, but was able to be recovered. And what

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Speaker 6: was search search term was leg edema after strangulation.

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Speaker 1: So this search leg edema after strangulation was done. On

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Speaker 1: April six, twenty twenty one, about five point thirty pm,

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Speaker 1: Reeves goes through the activity on Polkinghorn's phone on April fourth.

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Speaker 1: The phone is locked at eleven sixteen pm and it's

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Speaker 1: unlocked at one ten am. WhatsApp is then accessed. The

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Speaker 1: phones then turned to airplane mode. At one seventeen am,

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Speaker 1: the note app is accessed, the photos and Videos app

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Speaker 1: is used. We don't know what he viewed. This happens

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Speaker 1: sporadically up until two forty four am. That's when the

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Speaker 1: phone's locked. At six forty six am it's opened, the

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Speaker 1: photos and videos app used Until eight oh five am

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Speaker 1: the mobile phone app is used, but unable to work

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Speaker 1: given airplane mode is on, and then WhatsApp is accessed again.

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Speaker 6: No message though, as they were deleted. At auto six am,

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Speaker 6: the mobile phone app was used again, which is the

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Speaker 6: app you would use to make a phone call. It

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Speaker 6: says they're no needtwork activity possible possibly excuse me at

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Speaker 6: ato six then the display is off again and at

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Speaker 6: eighteen am the phone is again unlocked, and at eighteen

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Speaker 6: am the mobile phone app is used to make an

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Speaker 6: outgoing call, which was later confirmed to be a call

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Speaker 6: to Ruth Hughes from the Solida Tolco data.

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Speaker 1: You remember Polkinghorn rang one one one At eight six

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Speaker 1: am that morning. Reeves also looked into hard drives and

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Speaker 1: USB drives. Various photos were found, one showing a glass

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Speaker 1: of wine next to a math pipe with sweet path

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Speaker 1: written on the side. It was created at twenty sixth

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Speaker 1: of June twenty nineteen, after three am.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's quite dark and a bit hard to see.

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Speaker 6: But when I zoomed into that rectangular part of the photograph,

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Speaker 6: because there's a mirrored wall in the room, it's obviously

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Speaker 6: a reflection. And what is in the reflection is, in

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Speaker 6: my understanding, Dr Polkinghorn. It looks like him. I've seen

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Speaker 6: many pictures of doctor Polkinhorn. I've met doctor Polkinhorn, so

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Speaker 6: I believe that's him in the photograph. He has his

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00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 6: phone in his hand in is obviously taking that photo.

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00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 6: He's naked whilst taking the photo.

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Speaker 1: More images of Ashton, thousands of them across different drives.

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Speaker 1: Images from twenty nineteen show the inside of Ashton's apartment,

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Speaker 1: Polkinhorn's reflection in a mirror, naked selfies of different women,

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Speaker 1: WhatsApp screenshot conversations about meeting for sex with Ashton. Text

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Speaker 1: messages to sex worker Lee about meeting her and having

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Speaker 1: sex with other males and then onto more drives.

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Speaker 6: It contained multiple saved pornographic videos from online sites. This

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Speaker 6: external hydrivet also contained images of naked female and females,

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Speaker 6: and some of them we believe to be Lee Petterson

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00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 6: and Medicine Ashton. There was also multiple savid images of

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Speaker 6: not tying techniques.

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00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: Reeves then moves on to the analysis of Hannah's phone.

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Speaker 1: He said the final entry on the timeline was a

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Speaker 1: calendar appointment Hannah had created for dinner with PJP, saved

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Speaker 1: for April fifth, seven pm, but by that time should

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Speaker 1: be dead. His evidence will continue on day twenty. You

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. This series is presented

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Speaker 1: and sound engineer Patti Fox. Additional reporting from the Heralds

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