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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks AB.

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Speaker 2: Carl Pushman is here with this week's screen time picks

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Speaker 2: gid a car Jack. Hello, So we have two shows

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Speaker 2: this morning. One's on Netflix. The first, though, is streaming

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Speaker 2: on Prime Video. So tell us about bait. Yes.

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Speaker 3: Ever since the Daniel Craig announced he was hanging up

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Speaker 3: his license to kill, the rumor mill has sort of

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Speaker 3: been going overtime speculating which actor would step into his

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Speaker 3: shoes to become Bond James Bond. Bate takes that idea

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Speaker 3: and it bases a whole show around it, which is

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Speaker 3: a pretty cool thing to do. It was created co

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Speaker 3: written in stars Riz Ahmed, who you might know from

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Speaker 3: the brilliant crime series The Night of It. Also, he's

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Speaker 3: been in loads of movies, Star Wars, Rogue One and

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Speaker 3: things like that. He stars as a struggling British Pakistani

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Speaker 3: actor who blows his audition for the coveted part, but

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Speaker 3: then on his way out, manages to manipulate a paparazzi

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Speaker 3: into getting a snap of them leaving the secret of order.

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Speaker 3: This in turn fuels Tabloid Room is that he's still

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Speaker 3: in the running for the part even though he had

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Speaker 3: completely blown it. His ploy works and he finds himself

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Speaker 3: smack bang in the middle of tabloid debate about whether

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Speaker 3: he should get the part and that whole Can James

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Speaker 3: Bond not be a white man? Could it be a

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Speaker 3: brown Pakistani actor? And the show sort of follows his

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Speaker 3: journey to not blow his chances again, which is something

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Speaker 3: he seems almost destined to do, while also processing his

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Speaker 3: questions of cultural identity and whether he the reasons why

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Speaker 3: he wants that role so bad. So as you can

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Speaker 3: see that, the show is sort of follows in that

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Speaker 3: lineage of inside of Baseball shows about TV and Hollywood.

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Speaker 3: You know. Seth Rogan's The Studio from last year was

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Speaker 3: one of my picks of twenty twenty five was absolutely brilliant.

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Speaker 3: We spoke about Marvel's recent Wonderman, which is similarly going

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Speaker 3: behind the scenes of Hollywood TV and baits it companably

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Speaker 3: amongst those sort of shows. Blends that meta commentary with

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Speaker 3: family drama, cultural concerns, and also a wild surrealistic side

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Speaker 3: which I really love. You get Bollywood send ups in

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Speaker 3: the middle of serious scenes. One episode has Patrick Stewart

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Speaker 3: Captain Picard voicing a frozen pig's head for the whole episode.

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot going on within it's half our

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Speaker 3: run time, and it explores his British Pakistani Muslim culture

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Speaker 3: as well as everything else going on. So it's very

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Speaker 3: very good. Of course, it does raise the question of

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Speaker 3: who should be the next ye James Bonds?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when is the next? Do you know when the

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Speaker 2: next James Bond film was? First?

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Speaker 3: Every man? Everything is still just taking along, but nothing

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Speaker 3: has been announced, no clue.

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Speaker 2: When they take their time, don't they. It's probably a

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Speaker 2: very smart thing because the temptation would be just to

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Speaker 2: release a Bond film every year or two, you know,

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Speaker 2: and just absolutely cash on the franchise, But by building

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Speaker 2: up anticipation, by having it stretched chat over a longer

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Speaker 2: period of time, they probably maintain the value of the

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Speaker 2: brand a whole lot better.

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Speaker 3: One hundred everyone now we will want to see the

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Speaker 3: next Bote sort of the Star Wars effect would be

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Speaker 3: burnt out on it. But they have taken a long time,

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Speaker 3: Like if you remember, Idris Alba was a strong contender

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Speaker 3: for a while there. Yeah, he's aged, he's aged out

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Speaker 3: of the part now because it's taken him so long, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, not rushing, I saw mine. Okay,

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Speaker 2: very good. That sound that's what an interesting premise for

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Speaker 2: a show. So that's bait. It's on Prime Video. Next

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Speaker 2: up streaming on Netflix Joe Nisbo's Detective Whole.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well I'll quit you there. It's HARDI hula Norwegian

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Speaker 3: pronunciation harry hole. I also made that mistake until I

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Speaker 3: researched it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, well I might just leave him to nail

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Speaker 2: that pronunciation.

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Speaker 3: This is a sort of similar to Scarpitta, which we

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Speaker 3: talked about last week. This is a another crime thriller

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Speaker 3: series based on novels, this time on you Nizber's Gritty

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Speaker 3: Crime series, which there are thirteen books and counting. What

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Speaker 3: makes this one different from Scarpetta is that he was

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Speaker 3: actively involved in the show. He created it, wrote it,

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Speaker 3: and show ran it, so it makes it incredibly faithful

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Speaker 3: to his vision of what the books and what a

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Speaker 3: TV series based on his books should be. The show

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Speaker 3: is based on the fifth one in the series, which

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Speaker 3: is The Devil's Star, the Seeson serial killer terrorizing Oslo

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Speaker 3: and leaving pentagrim shaped red diamonds at the crime scenes,

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Speaker 3: which seems like an expensive calling card to me. But

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Speaker 3: that's what our enigmatic serial killer is doing here. Stop

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Speaker 3: me if you've heard this one before. But Hardy Hue

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Speaker 3: is a grumpy investigator who plays by his own rules

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Speaker 3: and battles personal demons. So that's the sort of template

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Speaker 3: for these kind of shows. In Who He Has Case,

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Speaker 3: he has guilt over the death of his partner five

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Speaker 3: years ago and is also battling some good old fashioned alcoholism.

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Speaker 3: The series is what's affectionately being dubbed noir, which is

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Speaker 3: sort of characterized by stark, bleak esthetic and gritty realistic violence,

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Speaker 3: and the show is quite good for that. I made

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Speaker 3: the terrible mistake of watching the first episode with overdubs.

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Speaker 3: It is actually a Norwegian show. I didn't realize that

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Speaker 3: it was done. I just thought, why is this so corny?

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Speaker 3: What's going on? And then I sort of started to

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Speaker 3: notice that the voices weren't matching up with what was

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Speaker 3: going on, and it really pulled me out of it.

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Speaker 3: I was like, this is not good. Swapping to subtitles

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Speaker 3: with the proper Norwegian vocals voices total game changer, huge difference,

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Speaker 3: and I got got drawn in after I fixed my

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Speaker 3: own user era there. So there's a bit of a

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Speaker 3: pro tip. If you like gritty, dark crime thrillers, make

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Speaker 3: sure you have subtitles.

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Speaker 2: Yes, no, very good. That sounds like me very much,

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Speaker 2: so Joan bids do we say Joan's most Detective Holly?

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Speaker 2: Is that what we said?

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Speaker 3: We say? You bars?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Harry Harry who? Yeah, Okay, that's gonna be Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's just all those off the tongue, doesn't it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, I might Cultural Corner, Yeah exactly. Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: do variety here on Saturday mornings. If nothing more, Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much, Carl. We'll make sure the details for

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Speaker 2: both of those shows are up on the News Talks

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Speaker 2: CB website. Bait is on Prime Video. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: say Jone's Bow's Detective Whole for Now is on Netflix.

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Speaker 2: I reckon if you search Joni's Bow that should come

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Speaker 2: right up. And cautiously optimistic that Netflix has nailed as

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Speaker 2: search function there.

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