1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: So one out of left field back home with the 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: All Black. So it turns out Leon McDonald Scott Robertson 3 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: aren't on the same page coaching. Why so Leon's gone? 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: They played together, coach together, the whole thing. So it 5 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: seems to have come out of left Field's John Cowan's 6 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: with us on this John Morning. 7 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: Mike, how are you mate? 8 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: Were you as surprised as anyone? 9 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? It was. That's unbelievable, incredible courage. I believe on 10 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: behalf of both of them if it's not working out, 11 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: because the status quo would be probably stay there finish 12 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 2: the season. But you know, for them to move on 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: this quicker, I think it's the best thing for the team. 14 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: What what's happened? Do you think given they know each 15 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: other and Razor picked Leon and they're all you know, 16 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: how does that break down? 17 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think probably a lack of philosophy around how 18 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: they are attacking. So once you sort of don't agree 19 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: on how they're going to attack, it's pretty hard to mend. 20 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: And the second thing is, I think some people just 21 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: can't be assistants as well. So you know, I think 22 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: Leon's been a head coach now for a while and 23 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: so it's hard to sometimes go back to being assistant. 24 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:05,919 Speaker 2: So I think it'll be those two things. 25 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: Okay, is it a razor lead thing. I'm the head coach, 26 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: therefore I get what I want and if you can't 27 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: fit in with that, you must go. Is that how 28 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: it works generally? 29 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: Well, I don't often be as half as that, but 30 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: pretty much I'm the boss. You know, if it's not working, 31 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: then we're going to move on pretty quickly. 32 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 1: What happens to Leon giving he's actually quite good. 33 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he probably have to go ashore now 34 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: there's no jobs left in New Zealand, so he probably 35 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: have to go shore and get a job. 36 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: And how would that affect the players? 37 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: I don't think the players will all be affected too much. 38 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: I think they'll just carry on. I don't think he's 39 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: going to be replaced, so it'll be one less voice. 40 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: They'll just move on. 41 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: And do you see it as a gap. 42 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: No, I don't say this as a gap. I think 43 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: he's got enough coaching staff. He's got enough people in there, 44 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: you know, to fill the gap. I just think they'll 45 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: carry on. 46 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: And for the record, John Kerwan this Friday morning, two 47 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: games in South Africa. The final result will be what. 48 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: I'd love to say to Noel, but I think, well, 49 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: if we can get one, I'd be incredibly happy. This 50 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: is just an incredible South African side. Might they are 51 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: just so good at the moment, but we've got to 52 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 2: have a great mindset, get over there and really take 53 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: them on physics. We've played to our best. It's going 54 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: to be one of the one of the best series 55 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: of Can't Wait, Mike, Can't Wait. Don't know what the 56 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,839 Speaker 2: result's going to be, which is all part of it, right, Yes, 57 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: it is. 58 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: Indeed, you have a good weekend, appreciate your time as away. 59 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: So John Coo and former All Black with us this morning. 60 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 61 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: news Talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 62 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.