1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Richard Arnold st outside. Good morning, Hey, then Mike one 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: of the great? Surely yep, he was a unique. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,079 Speaker 2: Jesse Jackson the most influential African American leader in the 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: period that spanned the emergence of doctor Martin Luther King 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: Junior and the election as president in no way of 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: Barack Obama. Jackson ran for president twice himself carried the 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 2: torch for civil rights reforms, economic growth, inverting rights. He 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: died in his sleep early this morning, at the age 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: of eighty four, and after a series of ailments, including 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: Parkinson's and a kind of palsy. I remember his oratory. 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: He was a singularly powerful speaker. I was in the 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: San Francisco Hall when Jackson gave his eighty four convention speech, 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: which he concluded with this rallying, Croft, the miracle. 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: Would get better and better. Chief Hoperlive, cheep, Hoperlive, Chief 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 3: hop Alive. 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: That speech was hailed as an instant political classic. What 17 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: I recall is the black security guards in that hall 18 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: who burst into tears, tears of pride as Jackson took 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: the podium. 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: My constituency is the desperate, the damn, the disinherited, the disrespected, 21 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 3: and the. 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: Despise all a part of the American quilt is the 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: way he put it at the time, in the fashion 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: that so strikingly differs from the anti immigration bitterness of 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,279 Speaker 2: this time. Jackson was hailed at that event as people 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: called out his name, Jesse, Jesse. They were saying. He 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: came in third in the primaries, behind Senator Gary Hart 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: and Vice President Fritz Mondale, who lost to Ronald Reagan. 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: He had also veered into scandal when he used a 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 2: derogatory slang term to describe New York Jews, and he 31 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: apologized for those remarks, saying, I am not a perfect servant. 32 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: I am a public servant doing my best against the odds. 33 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: Has that developed and served. Be patient. God is not 34 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: finished with me yet. 35 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 4: Well. 36 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: Jesse Jackson ran for the White House again in nineteen 37 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: eighty eight, when he was retired the front runner for 38 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: the Democrats before losing the nine to Michael Ducoccus. Of course, 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: lost the election to Bush Senior. But Jesse Jackson's life 40 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: so often was tumultuous. He was born when his mom 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: was a sixteen, fathered by the next door neighbor who 42 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: was a former boxer. Jesse Jackson's theme became yeah. He 43 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: was also on the balcony of the Lorraine Motel in 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: Memphis when Doctor King was assassinated, shot in the head. 45 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: Jesse Jackson then went on the Today Show here wearing 46 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: clothes that still were marked with doctor King's blood. Jesse 47 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: Jackson's family was with him this morning. His eldest son, 48 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: Jesse Junior, says of his father's legacy, he called us to. 49 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 4: Our authentic feld and I hope that people will see 50 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 4: the genuineness and who Jesse Jackson. It's hard for me 51 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 4: to say it because my father is now was not 52 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 4: it is, but but he gave it ball. 53 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: He was a giant. 54 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: Indeed he was. They don't be seen to be able 55 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: to dig themselves out of this hole at CBS, do they? No? 56 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 2: It's uh, it's getting bigger and bigger. The controversy. Where 57 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: about to see a rerun? Are we of what happened 58 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: to Jimmy Kimmel, the late night host who back in 59 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 2: September was suspended supposedly concerning comments on the death of 60 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: political active as Charlie Kirk his assassination. Kimmel later got 61 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: back on the air, but his CBS cohort Stephen Colbert 62 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: was fired by that network and is set to do 63 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: his final show in May this year. Last night, Colbert 64 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: was planning an interview with Texas state Democratic candidate James Talrico, 65 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: but his own network's lawyers demanded that he pulled his 66 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: segment at the very last minute. On air, Colbert then said, quote, 67 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: because my network clearly doesn't want me to talk about this, 68 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: let's talk about this. He then spoke of how the 69 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: Trump head of the Federal Communications Commission, the SEC, Brendan Carr, 70 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: was trying to enforce equal time for political guests on 71 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: talk shows, and then he said, sir, you're chairman. 72 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 5: Of the FCC. So FCCU. 73 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: This as CNN's Andanson Cooper says, he is leaving CBS 74 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: and his flagship current Affair show sixty minutes after almost 75 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 2: twenty years. This is CBS under its newly chosen boss, 76 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: Barry Weiss. The Trump supporter is adding commentators to the news, 77 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: which once was viewed as gold standard think back to 78 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: Walter Cronkite and Edward R. 79 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 5: Murrow. 80 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: One of these commentators is Peter Attia health advisor, whose 81 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: name turns up in the Epstein files. Contacting Epstein many times, 82 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: including once where he told the pedophile quote, the biggest 83 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 2: problem with becoming friends with you the life you lead 84 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: is so outrageous, and yet I can't tell us, Saul. 85 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: Right, I'm see in a couple of days, Richard Elandsteitz, 86 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: I think about Anderson Cooper. He's claiming he's leaving for 87 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: his kids. He wants to spend more time with his kids, 88 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: and no one's believing that, which then goes to his 89 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: integrity because either he is leaving to spend more time 90 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: with his kids, which is laudable, or he he's a 91 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: sell off and he doesn't want to tell the truth 92 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: one or the other. Jesse Jackson was on this program, 93 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: by the way, so you would see his contribution far 94 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: greater outside the Ring than inside the Ring. 95 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 5: Well, no, you can't separate them, because he has greatness 96 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 5: in the ring. 97 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 4: They gave him a. 98 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 5: Platform to be heard outside the ring when we were 99 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 5: marching and being jailed across the South. His exploits in 100 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 5: the Ring made him a figure of inspiration. He'd be 101 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 5: looked up to him. He used the championship platform to 102 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 5: become a hero of social justice, of both important. If 103 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 5: we had been a loser in the ring, that the 104 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 5: one had heard him in the first place, the greatest 105 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 5: box of our time, maybe all the time. In addition 106 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 5: to that, a sarcrificial servity in law. Those two kind 107 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 5: of come together. 108 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: It was the funeral of Muhammad Ali, and we thought, 109 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: why don't we ring Jesse Jackson. See if he answer 110 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: is the fine ranges. He takes it out to the 111 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: fine So we ask some questions as back in twenty sixteen. 112 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 113 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: News Talks at B from six am weekdays, or follow 114 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.