1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,973 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from news Talk zed Be 2 00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:16,133 Speaker 1: follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:16,813 --> 00:00:18,733 Speaker 2: And it's a big week for Christopher Luxon as Hem 4 00:00:18,733 --> 00:00:21,133 Speaker 2: acts his first visit to the UK as Prime Minister. 5 00:00:21,613 --> 00:00:25,293 Speaker 2: A trade, tariffs and geopolitics will undoubtedly be agenda toppers 6 00:00:25,293 --> 00:00:27,773 Speaker 2: when he sits down with the British PM Sukia Starma. 7 00:00:28,133 --> 00:00:31,013 Speaker 2: As it stands, the UK is only our seventh largest 8 00:00:31,013 --> 00:00:34,373 Speaker 2: trading partner, with a twenty percent increase in exports last year, 9 00:00:34,893 --> 00:00:38,173 Speaker 2: looks like new opportunities are opening and British New Zealand 10 00:00:38,173 --> 00:00:41,733 Speaker 2: Business Association President Philip Wood joins me. Now, Philip, good 11 00:00:41,733 --> 00:00:45,853 Speaker 2: morning morning. So where do you think the New Zealand 12 00:00:45,853 --> 00:00:47,293 Speaker 2: Britain relationship's at right now? 13 00:00:49,453 --> 00:00:52,533 Speaker 3: Well, I was thinking about this when you were talking there. 14 00:00:53,373 --> 00:00:55,933 Speaker 3: I guess if you go back to nineteen seventy three 15 00:00:56,053 --> 00:00:58,693 Speaker 3: when UK entered the what was the common market? Now 16 00:00:58,693 --> 00:01:01,693 Speaker 3: the EU you come forward to now, it's probably the 17 00:01:01,693 --> 00:01:04,573 Speaker 3: strongest it's been since that time, I would say in 18 00:01:04,693 --> 00:01:07,053 Speaker 3: terms of business flows between the two countries. 19 00:01:07,493 --> 00:01:12,053 Speaker 2: Has the China situation created opportunities or an increased will 20 00:01:12,333 --> 00:01:13,133 Speaker 2: to do business? 21 00:01:15,893 --> 00:01:17,893 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. I was talking some businesses in New 22 00:01:17,933 --> 00:01:20,973 Speaker 3: Zealand businesses the other week and kind of general viewers, 23 00:01:21,013 --> 00:01:24,453 Speaker 3: perhaps boring old UK is quite an attractive market at 24 00:01:24,453 --> 00:01:27,373 Speaker 3: the moment, you know, And at the end of the day, 25 00:01:27,413 --> 00:01:29,493 Speaker 3: businesses want certainty, don't they. That's one of the key 26 00:01:29,493 --> 00:01:32,413 Speaker 3: things they want. And obviously with what's happening in US 27 00:01:32,573 --> 00:01:37,173 Speaker 3: China is increasing the kind of uncertainty around what's going 28 00:01:37,213 --> 00:01:40,733 Speaker 3: to happen. And I think the UK, with the free 29 00:01:40,733 --> 00:01:44,573 Speaker 3: trade agreement, the UK political scene is fairly well settled 30 00:01:46,213 --> 00:01:50,093 Speaker 3: kind of offers a i'd say, a reliable, fairly safe 31 00:01:50,133 --> 00:01:52,693 Speaker 3: market to head for. If you're a New Zealand exporter. 32 00:01:52,853 --> 00:01:54,653 Speaker 2: I guess we know what we want. We want to 33 00:01:54,853 --> 00:01:57,293 Speaker 2: export more. Because let's start with the UK. What do 34 00:01:57,413 --> 00:02:00,093 Speaker 2: they want from want from US? With these face to 35 00:02:00,133 --> 00:02:03,613 Speaker 2: face meetings, Well. 36 00:02:03,493 --> 00:02:07,093 Speaker 3: I guess UK and New Zealand are probably pretty much 37 00:02:07,133 --> 00:02:09,693 Speaker 3: aligned and what they're strategy is at the moment, I 38 00:02:09,693 --> 00:02:12,653 Speaker 3: guess is what's happening in terms of probably both countries 39 00:02:12,693 --> 00:02:15,853 Speaker 3: are hoping to negotiate something acceptable with the US and 40 00:02:15,893 --> 00:02:18,653 Speaker 3: kind of minimize any damage. But then at the same 41 00:02:18,693 --> 00:02:22,533 Speaker 3: time both countries are looking at kind of building stronger 42 00:02:22,573 --> 00:02:25,253 Speaker 3: relationships with other countries so that you're not reliant on 43 00:02:25,293 --> 00:02:27,253 Speaker 3: the US. And the US is the biggest market for 44 00:02:27,293 --> 00:02:30,213 Speaker 3: the UK exports, it's what's the second biggest for New Zealand, 45 00:02:31,533 --> 00:02:34,453 Speaker 3: And so the idea of kind of diversifying your risk, 46 00:02:34,533 --> 00:02:38,533 Speaker 3: building more trade across a wider number of areas. So 47 00:02:38,613 --> 00:02:41,333 Speaker 3: I think whilst the New Zealand maybe a smaller country 48 00:02:41,333 --> 00:02:43,653 Speaker 3: if you like, I think it's about number forty three 49 00:02:43,693 --> 00:02:46,533 Speaker 3: in the list of trading partners for the UK. You know, 50 00:02:46,533 --> 00:02:48,853 Speaker 3: it all adds up, and the more trades you do 51 00:02:49,373 --> 00:02:51,733 Speaker 3: with other countries, the less reliant you are on one 52 00:02:51,773 --> 00:02:54,133 Speaker 3: particular market. And I think in the current environment that's 53 00:02:54,173 --> 00:02:55,613 Speaker 3: probably a safe strategy. 54 00:02:55,733 --> 00:02:57,373 Speaker 2: What do you think Luxlan will be wanting to get 55 00:02:57,413 --> 00:02:59,453 Speaker 2: out of this most of all so he can so 56 00:02:59,493 --> 00:03:01,373 Speaker 2: he can report a win for US. 57 00:03:04,853 --> 00:03:07,773 Speaker 3: I think he just probably wants a reaffirmation of the 58 00:03:07,853 --> 00:03:12,053 Speaker 3: UK is fully behind the idea of a rules based 59 00:03:13,293 --> 00:03:18,293 Speaker 3: trading world rather than power based that the UK is 60 00:03:18,413 --> 00:03:21,373 Speaker 3: very much kind of aligned with New Zealand in terms 61 00:03:21,373 --> 00:03:25,133 Speaker 3: of as say, creating those trading groups. I mean, UK 62 00:03:25,333 --> 00:03:30,493 Speaker 3: is very interested in the Indo Pacific region since CPTPP 63 00:03:31,413 --> 00:03:34,813 Speaker 3: starting from the end of last year. New Zealand are 64 00:03:34,853 --> 00:03:36,613 Speaker 3: found a member of that and was an important part 65 00:03:36,653 --> 00:03:39,733 Speaker 3: in the UK joining that. So I think probably it's 66 00:03:39,733 --> 00:03:41,733 Speaker 3: that reaffirmation of the relationship. I mean, the end of 67 00:03:41,773 --> 00:03:44,813 Speaker 3: the day, it is the oldest relationship if you like 68 00:03:44,973 --> 00:03:49,053 Speaker 3: offshore so and it's a very wide relationship across business 69 00:03:49,053 --> 00:03:51,213 Speaker 3: in all a whole lot of other areas. So I 70 00:03:51,253 --> 00:03:54,493 Speaker 3: think it's that reaffirmation that both countries are very much 71 00:03:54,493 --> 00:03:56,493 Speaker 3: aligned in the same kind of program. 72 00:03:56,613 --> 00:03:59,293 Speaker 2: Excellent, Hey, Philip, really appreciate your input. This morning there 73 00:03:59,333 --> 00:04:02,453 Speaker 2: was Philip Board, he's presiding US Owned Business Association President. 74 00:04:03,093 --> 00:04:06,013 Speaker 1: For more from US Talks EDB listen live on air 75 00:04:06,213 --> 00:04:08,933 Speaker 1: or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you 76 00:04:09,013 --> 00:04:11,413 Speaker 1: go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.