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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from news Talks ed B. Start your weekend off in style.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Taine and bepure dot co dot

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Welcome to Newsbalk's ed V. I'm Jack Tam

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Speaker 2: behind the mic through to midday today, Pinching a punch,

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Speaker 2: pinchon a punch first to February already. I know it's

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Speaker 2: one of those little weekends though, where I think heaps

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Speaker 2: of us are having barbecues this weekend, heaps of us

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Speaker 2: catching up with mates next weekend sort of the same

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Speaker 2: a you know, because especially if you take off the Friday,

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Speaker 2: although the kids are all back at school, but if

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Speaker 2: you take off the Friday, you get the four day weekend. So,

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Speaker 2: given it is barbecue season on newstik sai'd be before

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Speaker 2: ten o'clock this morning. We have a perfect recipe if

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Speaker 2: you've got to take something to a matespace for a barbecue,

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Speaker 2: you want to look like you put in a little

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Speaker 2: bit of effort. A delicious salad salad recipe that really

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Speaker 2: doesn't take too much work. And well, speaking of delicious,

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Speaker 2: little numbers, We've got a saucy little number for you

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Speaker 2: before ten o'clock as well, we're going to tell you

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Speaker 2: about Baby Girl. This is this new movie with Nicole Kidman,

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Speaker 2: basically a high powered CEO. That's Nicole Kidman's character puts

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Speaker 2: her career and family on the line when she begins

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Speaker 2: a torrid affair with a much younger intern, something we

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Speaker 2: can all relate to. I hope not. Well, we'll tell

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Speaker 2: you about Baby Girl before ten o'clock this morning, so

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Speaker 2: looking forward to that. Right now, it is eight minutes

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Speaker 2: past nine chime. Well, Donald Trump, you would have to say,

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Speaker 2: isn't wasting any time whatsoever. We can be sure of that,

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Speaker 2: whether it is his executive orders Greenland or his extraordinary

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Speaker 2: cabinet appointments. The President's strategy for his first few weeks

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Speaker 2: in ovis is obviously to move as quickly as possible,

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Speaker 2: to flood the zone, as they say in politics. And

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Speaker 2: for his opponents, there's just so much to be outraged

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Speaker 2: about they can't really keep up. But of the many

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Speaker 2: crazy things to observe, I reckon RFK Junior's confirmation hearing

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Speaker 2: this week has been a bit of a standout for me. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: the guy is wahy and unconventional, but having someone with

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Speaker 2: his history of campaigning against vaccines in such an important

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Speaker 2: public health row is extraordinary even by Donald Trump's standards.

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Speaker 2: Potentially dangerous for sure. But anyway, look, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to talk about vaccines this morning. Don't worry. I want

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Speaker 2: to talk about food because despite his unconventional persona, despite

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Speaker 2: how much I disagree with things he said about vaccines

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Speaker 2: and actions he's taken in the past, not everything about

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Speaker 2: rfk's health philosophy, if we can put it that way,

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Speaker 2: should be discounted. Not everything's loopy. And when it comes

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Speaker 2: to his attitudes towards ultra processed foods and America's big

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Speaker 2: food industry, I am one hundred percent on RFK Junior's side.

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Speaker 2: So in a nutshell, he reckons that like America's ultra

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Speaker 2: process food industry is contributing to and making Americans less healthy,

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Speaker 2: the combination of processing and you know, the use of

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Speaker 2: artificial engineered ingredients, factory farming, and excess sugar has contributed

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Speaker 2: to alarming health alarming health outcomes, And honestly, I agree,

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Speaker 2: I totally agree. Speaking personally, I reckon it was Michael

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Speaker 2: Pollan you know that amazing American author. I've actually had

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Speaker 2: him on the show a couple of times, so we

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Speaker 2: was from him that I first adopted a bit of

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Speaker 2: a food philosophy of sorts, because he came up with

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Speaker 2: those simplest food rules when investigating food and nutrition. His

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Speaker 2: rules eat food mainly plants, not too much. But for

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Speaker 2: a long time now I reckon my food philosophy has

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Speaker 2: been the more that food has been processed, the more

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Speaker 2: it's been tinkered with, the more that it's been optimized

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Speaker 2: and engineered, the more that it has numbers for ingredients,

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Speaker 2: the worse it probably is for your health. Now, don't

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Speaker 2: get me wrong, I absolutely love junk food, absolutely love it. Right,

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Speaker 2: life is too short, though, as far as I'm concerned

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Speaker 2: to only eat numbers. I would just much rather have

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Speaker 2: comes in a package. So I'd much rather have have

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Speaker 2: one of the big chains, and I know they've made

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Speaker 2: efforts to improve their offerings over the years, but speaking personally,

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Speaker 2: it is obviously much worse. Everything is processed, everything comes

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Speaker 2: came home for a month or so over summer and

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Speaker 2: he returned after four or five weeks, expecting to find

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Speaker 2: only to discover a bag of bread without a single

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Speaker 2: spot of mold, without a single spore anywhere. Yes, we wondered,

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Speaker 2: if that bread can survive a month in a warm cupboard,

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Speaker 2: what's it doing to us? And yet, on average, despite

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Speaker 2: spending twice as much on healthcare per capita than other

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Speaker 2: large wealthy countries, life expectancy in the US is five

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Speaker 2: years lower. It's bananas A. Well, it's not bananas. I

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Speaker 2: suppose it's yeah, high fruit tose corn syrup. A. They

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Speaker 2: spend twice as much per person on healthcare only to

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Speaker 2: live five years less. We can't pin at all on

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Speaker 2: ultraprocessed foods, but diet certainly plays a role in that

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Speaker 2: about half of the trillion US dollar supermarket industry they

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Speaker 2: reckon as ultra processed food in New Zealand dollars. That

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Speaker 2: means that the ultra processed food industry in US supermarkets

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Speaker 2: is worth about eight hundred and fifty billion New Zealand

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Speaker 2: dollars every year. So if RFK Junior is confirmed and

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Speaker 2: can break through some of the vested interests that underpin that, honestly,

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Speaker 2: all power to them. Jack D ninety two ninety two

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Speaker 2: don't forget the standard text costs supply you can email

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Speaker 2: me as well. Jacketnewstalksb dot co dot nz is my

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Speaker 2: email address. Speaking of delicious food, I stumbled upon Auckland's

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Speaker 2: a bit of me Altia Square kicked off last night,

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Speaker 2: so I went and had instead of having anything ultra

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Speaker 2: process I had a delicious pull pork with plum sauce

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Speaker 2: if you are in the nine and you fancy a

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Speaker 2: bit of a feed, I can strongly recommend the erectors

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Speaker 2: there as opposed to anything ultraprocessed. Kevin Melon's gonna kick

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Speaker 2: us off in a couple of minutes. Right now, it's

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Speaker 2: fourteen minutes past night. It's Saturday Morning of Jack Tame.

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Speaker 2: This is Newstalk's EDB.

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Speaker 3: No bitter way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Ta and bpwart

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Speaker 2: EDB seventeen past nine on News Talks, EDB. Roy says, yeah, Jack,

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Speaker 2: good food is natural medicine if only we could all

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Speaker 2: afford it. It's a ripoff, says Roy. Yeah, well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's true. Jack. Totally agree with you. Oppose RFK Junior

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the big food industries in the US.

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Speaker 2: Ninety two ninety two is a text number if you

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Speaker 2: this morning. Cannot wait for this. Our feature interview this

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Speaker 2: morning is with Key We sing a songwriter Nadia Reid.

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Speaker 2: She has has some big changes in her life over

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years. She's become a mom, has

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Speaker 2: One of you would have to send the most beautiful

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Speaker 2: parts of this country to Manchester of all places in

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Speaker 2: the UK. She's just about to release her brand new album,

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Speaker 2: so looking forward to that right now though, time to

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Speaker 2: catch up with Kevin Milne, who's with us this morning.

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Speaker 4: More than a Kevin in her and having new year Jack.

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Speaker 4: I know we've sort of moved on a bit now

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Speaker 4: since genuine first, but lovely to hear your wonderful voice again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great to be speaking Kevin. Yeah, very much.

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Speaker 4: So, Yeah, it's in your I take it you're getting

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well, every morning I wake up, I sort

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Speaker 2: my wife trolls me by saying, oh, I think tonight

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Speaker 2: could be the night that baby comes, and I say, don't, don't, will,

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Speaker 2: need is to have a really nice, RESTful night and

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Speaker 4: So are you nervous?

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Speaker 2: you know, you know that life's about to profoundly change,

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Speaker 4: Throwing my mind back forty two years to when we

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Speaker 2: Well, I think now they have that that that does

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Speaker 2: seem to happen to people. So you left it a

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Speaker 4: virtually before we've even got we got caught in the trap.

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Speaker 2: It's probably a happy medium somewhere in the middle. I think. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can time contractions. And then I think that's how

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Speaker 2: And if you're the dad, you can be sitting there

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Speaker 2: with your phone saying, right, give us a number out

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Speaker 2: I'm not here at some point, you're really like you

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Speaker 2: recognize where Kevin. But anyway, Yeah, you have in the

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Speaker 2: last week or so, Kevin, You've struck some credit card fraud.

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Speaker 4: Last Saturday, I went to Harvey Norman to buy a

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Speaker 4: couldn't tell me why. I assumed it was their issue.

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Speaker 4: Later that morning, I used the same credit card to

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Speaker 4: fill up with petrol, same thing, card rejected. When I

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Speaker 4: got home, I discovered that overnight we got an email

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Speaker 2: That'd be okay, good news, Ryan and Fiona are related.

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Speaker 6: Not a great shock really in the greatest schem of things.

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Speaker 6: But the motivation, I'm sure Jack, She's given so many

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Speaker 6: And when you have an accident like that as a

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Speaker 3: For a nation.

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Speaker 6: So if you're in it's New Year, it's the Wali soon,

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Speaker 6: It's a very sunny, warm, one of those warm moighty

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's twenty seven to ten. This is Nadia Reid.

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Speaker 2: That song is called Hotel Santa Cruz. She's our feature

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Speaker 3: Morning.

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Speaker 8: Good morning.

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Speaker 9: Oh I last Nadia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's great, She's really amazing. She's yeah, yeah, that'll

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Speaker 2: I have been excited about your films this morning. I've

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Speaker 8: He do you feel like so good in this film?

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Speaker 2: Is she? Okay?

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Speaker 8: It's really good in this film, and I feel like

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Speaker 2: Let's have it listened. Okay, So this is Nicole Kidman,

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Speaker 9: Okay, you need to have a conversation.

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Speaker 10: You're very young. I don't want are you?

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Speaker 3: I think I have power over you because I could.

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Speaker 2: Make one call and you everything.

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Speaker 3: Does that turn you on Winn's room?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Dan, okay, tell us about baby Girl.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 8: So this is a very sort of sexy, erotic thriller.

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Speaker 8: It's a very complex, challenging and most likely polarizing film.

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Speaker 8: I really loved it. It's directed by Helena Raim and

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Speaker 8: it starts Nicole Kidman, Harris Dickinson and Antonio Banderaz and

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Speaker 8: a female leader in business, she has a beautiful home

430
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Speaker 8: to gorgeous children. It's successful theater director, her husband. But

431
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Speaker 8: she's really at the sort of point in her life

432
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Speaker 8: where she's prepared to blow it all up, just destroy everything,

433
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Speaker 8: to kind of find herself and sort of start fresh.

434
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Speaker 8: And the catalyst of the young intern Samuel, played by

435
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Speaker 8: harr Dickinson. He has quite a unique character. Actually, he

436
00:24:32,853 --> 00:24:36,613
Speaker 8: challenges her. It's sort of an inappropriate manner in the workplace.

437
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Speaker 8: He's quite bold, but he's also young and kind of

438
00:24:39,853 --> 00:24:43,213
Speaker 8: lacks a sophistication to him as well, and he's a

439
00:24:43,213 --> 00:24:45,933
Speaker 8: hard character to pin down. One minute, he's kind of charming,

440
00:24:46,253 --> 00:24:48,853
Speaker 8: he can be cruel, they can be sexy, angry, and

441
00:24:48,893 --> 00:24:51,573
Speaker 8: then really sweet and quite immature. And that's because he

442
00:24:51,653 --> 00:24:55,213
Speaker 8: kind of represents a fantasy for Mommy. She's able to

443
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Speaker 8: delve into, kind of and explore some of her darkest

444
00:25:00,933 --> 00:25:04,373
Speaker 8: sort of sexual needs. There's been a lot of reaction

445
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Speaker 8: to this film for the reason I just mentioned, from

446
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Speaker 8: a woman wanting to explore her dark a sexual needs,

447
00:25:12,133 --> 00:25:16,013
Speaker 8: to a female leader abusing her power over an employer,

448
00:25:16,253 --> 00:25:19,813
Speaker 8: e to the way that Ronny deals with her marriage.

449
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Speaker 8: But it's fabulous in the way it's so confrontational. You

450
00:25:23,653 --> 00:25:27,173
Speaker 8: can't leave this film without going, Okay, that was really

451
00:25:27,213 --> 00:25:30,133
Speaker 8: full on. There was a lot going on here. Let's

452
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Speaker 8: start unraveling there and potentially having some really interesting conversations

453
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Speaker 8: with your girlfriends. Nicole CapMan is absolutely fantastic in this film. Look,

454
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Speaker 8: I think it's fair to say, and people will know

455
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Speaker 8: where I'm coming from when I say this, but often

456
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Speaker 8: when we see her in TV shows and things now,

457
00:25:44,493 --> 00:25:47,733
Speaker 8: she's what I call lit out like she's lit in

458
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Speaker 8: such a way that she just you don't see her age.

459
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Speaker 8: She always looks amazing in a maculate and she does

460
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Speaker 8: in this film as well, But I think she's been

461
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Speaker 8: shot a little bit more naturally. You see the crow's

462
00:26:02,013 --> 00:26:04,493
Speaker 8: feet on her face, you see the lines on her face,

463
00:26:04,533 --> 00:26:08,253
Speaker 8: you see her as a middle a woman, Yeah, addressing

464
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Speaker 8: kind of her sexual needs. And I think that's really

465
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Speaker 8: important for you to relate to her. You'll love it

466
00:26:13,853 --> 00:26:16,773
Speaker 8: and you'll hate it. Like her behavior and her actions,

467
00:26:17,373 --> 00:26:19,333
Speaker 8: you kind of understand them, but you won't like them all.

468
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Speaker 8: But I just felt like she's really put herself out there.

469
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Speaker 8: This is a very brave role. Okay, she sort of

470
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Speaker 8: did it with eyes widehu many years ago, but she

471
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Speaker 8: had a husband by her side when she shot that film.

472
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Speaker 8: In this particular film, obviously she's older.

473
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Speaker 3: You know.

474
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Speaker 8: It's a film about a middle aged woman exploring her sexuality,

475
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Speaker 8: and she really puts it all out there.

476
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh that sounds great, sexy, ironical Saturday morning. So

477
00:26:45,213 --> 00:26:47,693
Speaker 2: I love it and I'm here for it. I'm here

478
00:26:47,733 --> 00:26:51,053
Speaker 2: for it. Okay. So that is Baby Girl that's showing

479
00:26:51,053 --> 00:26:53,253
Speaker 2: in cinemas now, and like you say, lots of buzz

480
00:26:53,253 --> 00:26:55,893
Speaker 2: around that one. Let's have a listen to our second

481
00:26:55,933 --> 00:27:00,693
Speaker 2: film for something completely different. This is You're cordially invited

482
00:27:06,093 --> 00:27:07,413
Speaker 2: taking into the bradal suite.

483
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Speaker 11: My sister is getting married this week.

484
00:27:08,933 --> 00:27:11,053
Speaker 12: I think there might be a little mistake because my

485
00:27:11,093 --> 00:27:12,013
Speaker 12: daughter is getting married.

486
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Speaker 3: Ooh no, we've double booked your weddings. What.

487
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Speaker 13: Oh, I'm calm, Oh, I'm super cold.

488
00:27:19,573 --> 00:27:24,013
Speaker 2: Ah that old classic situation, A recent and Will fair

489
00:27:24,053 --> 00:27:26,773
Speaker 2: all are the familiar voices you probably recognize. They tell

490
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Speaker 2: us about You're cordially invited.

491
00:27:30,093 --> 00:27:33,173
Speaker 8: Well, this is directed by Nicholas Sola, and really the

492
00:27:33,213 --> 00:27:36,893
Speaker 8: trailer sums it up beautifully. This is a fun romantic comedy,

493
00:27:37,213 --> 00:27:40,333
Speaker 8: the kind of misses as much as it hits. It's

494
00:27:40,493 --> 00:27:44,853
Speaker 8: very much reliant on its two likable leaves. Will Farell

495
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Speaker 8: is a solo dad. His wife died years ago and

496
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Speaker 8: he's raised his daughter. They're very close. She comes home

497
00:27:51,173 --> 00:27:54,853
Speaker 8: from college and says, Dad, I'm getting married, and he goes, ah, okay,

498
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Speaker 8: and he's shocked by the whole thing, but decides he's

499
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Speaker 8: going to give his daughter that the wedding of her dreams.

500
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Speaker 8: At the same time, Reese with a Spoon plays Margo

501
00:28:04,733 --> 00:28:07,933
Speaker 8: and she wants to give her sister her wedding of

502
00:28:07,973 --> 00:28:09,853
Speaker 8: her dreams, and they book the same venue and they

503
00:28:09,893 --> 00:28:12,053
Speaker 8: turn up and it's on a little island and there's

504
00:28:12,053 --> 00:28:13,933
Speaker 8: not a lot of other options, so they decided to

505
00:28:13,933 --> 00:28:16,613
Speaker 8: share the venue, and chaos kind of ensues.

506
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Speaker 14: Some of it is really funny, some of it just

507
00:28:20,053 --> 00:28:22,733
Speaker 14: misses being funny, and it's a bit odd or a

508
00:28:22,733 --> 00:28:26,373
Speaker 14: bit crass, But all in all, this is meant to

509
00:28:26,533 --> 00:28:29,413
Speaker 14: just be a pleasant crowd pleaser, and it kind of

510
00:28:29,453 --> 00:28:30,213
Speaker 14: ticks that box.

511
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Speaker 8: Although I spent most of my time admiring Reef's Witherspoon's

512
00:28:34,093 --> 00:28:36,173
Speaker 8: hair and wondering whether I should get bangs. So that

513
00:28:36,213 --> 00:28:39,573
Speaker 8: tells you how gripping tells you how mostly gripping this

514
00:28:39,653 --> 00:28:42,493
Speaker 8: film is jack so much at all. But you're actually

515
00:28:42,573 --> 00:28:45,693
Speaker 8: just you know, taking in the haircuts and the clothes.

516
00:28:45,893 --> 00:28:48,213
Speaker 8: But look, if you after some light hearted, silly fun,

517
00:28:48,213 --> 00:28:49,613
Speaker 8: this is screaming on Prime.

518
00:28:49,893 --> 00:28:50,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, is it?

519
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Speaker 15: Like?

520
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Speaker 2: You know how, like will Fare, all movies almost have

521
00:28:52,973 --> 00:28:57,493
Speaker 2: their own kind of they're almost like a genre unto themselves.

522
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Speaker 8: Yeah, And that's the thing. It kind of goes halfway there,

523
00:29:00,693 --> 00:29:03,613
Speaker 8: jack fully there, And so when they do kind of

524
00:29:03,613 --> 00:29:08,573
Speaker 8: go along that irreverent kind of slightly haughty key Will

525
00:29:08,573 --> 00:29:13,053
Speaker 8: Ferrell kind of approach it sort of jarred a little bit. Yeah,

526
00:29:13,053 --> 00:29:15,853
Speaker 8: it's a bit of a mix. It's it's and that's

527
00:29:15,893 --> 00:29:18,773
Speaker 8: why it didn't quite work for me. Okay, but I

528
00:29:18,813 --> 00:29:21,293
Speaker 8: think the two leads are great together, be great together.

529
00:29:21,453 --> 00:29:24,493
Speaker 8: They drive the whole thing. It's fun, it's light and

530
00:29:24,653 --> 00:29:26,373
Speaker 8: you know you might getting your haircut out of it.

531
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well, okay, open minded. I do love Will Ferrell,

532
00:29:31,653 --> 00:29:36,213
Speaker 2: so yeah, thank you. So that's your cordially invited. Francesca's

533
00:29:36,213 --> 00:29:39,213
Speaker 2: first film is Baby Girl, and all of the details

534
00:29:39,213 --> 00:29:40,893
Speaker 2: for those movies are gonna be up at Newstalks hearb

535
00:29:41,013 --> 00:29:44,653
Speaker 2: dot co dot nz Ford slash Jack. That is, of

536
00:29:44,693 --> 00:29:46,973
Speaker 2: course the best place to go for everything from our

537
00:29:47,013 --> 00:29:49,933
Speaker 2: show Baby Girl is showing in cinemas, and the one

538
00:29:49,973 --> 00:29:53,493
Speaker 2: with Will Ferrell and Reese Withersplane you're cordially invited as

539
00:29:53,533 --> 00:29:56,653
Speaker 2: showing on Prime video if you just feel like veging

540
00:29:56,693 --> 00:29:59,013
Speaker 2: out on the couch as well this weekend. You don't

541
00:29:59,053 --> 00:30:02,253
Speaker 2: really want to leave home, you just feel like watching

542
00:30:02,253 --> 00:30:05,213
Speaker 2: a couple of good shows, maybe binge watching some shows

543
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Speaker 2: at home. Good news. After ten o'clock this morning, we

544
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Speaker 2: have our screen time segment, we're going to tell you

545
00:30:09,653 --> 00:30:12,853
Speaker 2: about Rogue Heroes. You might have seen the first season.

546
00:30:13,093 --> 00:30:16,213
Speaker 2: It's a season kind of about that the Mavericks who

547
00:30:16,293 --> 00:30:20,813
Speaker 2: formed the Sas around the Second World War, and that

548
00:30:20,893 --> 00:30:23,453
Speaker 2: the first season was on TVNZ. Plus they've just released

549
00:30:23,453 --> 00:30:25,413
Speaker 2: a second season of Rogue hero So I'm going to

550
00:30:25,453 --> 00:30:27,413
Speaker 2: tell you a bit more about that very So next up, though,

551
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Speaker 2: our cook is here with this week's feature recipe, and

552
00:30:29,853 --> 00:30:32,733
Speaker 2: this is a perfect salad if you're heading to someone's

553
00:30:32,733 --> 00:30:35,173
Speaker 2: for a barbecue over the next couple of weekends. Call

554
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Speaker 2: it to ten. You're with Jack Tame. This is news doalg' EDB.

555
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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay keeping the conversation going through

556
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Speaker 1: the weekend with bpure dot co dot ens here for

557
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Speaker 1: high quality supplements used dogs EDB.

558
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Speaker 2: Thirteen minutes to ten on your Saturday morning. Nicki Wix

559
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Speaker 2: is our cook and she's with us this morning morning.

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Speaker 16: Yes, good morning Jack.

561
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Speaker 2: So rappers have you had them before?

562
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Speaker 8: Rappers?

563
00:31:00,453 --> 00:31:03,013
Speaker 2: I love it, Rapper, you love a little chicky little rapper.

564
00:31:03,053 --> 00:31:05,053
Speaker 2: I had a surprise I rapper for dinner last night,

565
00:31:05,093 --> 00:31:09,253
Speaker 2: which was so it was that I just was basically

566
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Speaker 2: I was going to David Sadaris, Right, David Sadaris, the

567
00:31:12,413 --> 00:31:19,973
Speaker 2: amazing what you were there last night. I felt like, honestly,

568
00:31:19,973 --> 00:31:21,813
Speaker 2: I felt like I knew half the audience. So I'm

569
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Speaker 2: surprised we didn't bump into each other.

570
00:31:23,173 --> 00:31:26,053
Speaker 16: I was surprised we didn't know. Anyway, our listeners are

571
00:31:26,093 --> 00:31:27,013
Speaker 16: going to get so bored with.

572
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Speaker 2: Us, Okay, yeah, well I'm going to talk about it,

573
00:31:28,973 --> 00:31:31,653
Speaker 2: tell them about David David sadaras a little bit later

574
00:31:31,693 --> 00:31:35,013
Speaker 2: in the show. But so before I went to David Sadars, obviously,

575
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Speaker 2: my my one offul wife, Marv is thirty eight weeks pregnant,

576
00:31:38,413 --> 00:31:41,013
Speaker 2: so getting in dinner early was of an absolute focus,

577
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Speaker 2: and I thought, we'll go to Tanuki's Cave, the legendary

578
00:31:44,253 --> 00:31:46,533
Speaker 2: where I was. Of course you were well because you

579
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Speaker 2: got in before us. We couldn't get a seat at

580
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Speaker 2: Tanuki's Cave, so and Steering went outside. We're at Altier Square.

581
00:31:52,213 --> 00:31:54,133
Speaker 2: They were having the Auckland. They were kicking off the

582
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Speaker 2: Orkland Latin Fiesta. So I ended up having a delicious

583
00:31:59,413 --> 00:32:02,133
Speaker 2: South American. There's always a debate whether it was the

584
00:32:02,213 --> 00:32:04,733
Speaker 2: Venezuelans or the Colombian who invented at epas, but it

585
00:32:05,013 --> 00:32:07,053
Speaker 2: sort of the national food of both. So I had

586
00:32:07,373 --> 00:32:10,333
Speaker 2: and a rapper with pulled pork plum sauce and halloomi

587
00:32:10,453 --> 00:32:13,733
Speaker 2: last night, which was amazing, and it was about the

588
00:32:13,773 --> 00:32:15,893
Speaker 2: size of a baby, to be honest. So my wife

589
00:32:16,333 --> 00:32:17,493
Speaker 2: looked really similar afterwards.

590
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Speaker 16: Yeah, so I used to go to Conch before they

591
00:32:21,253 --> 00:32:23,013
Speaker 16: closed down. It was the only other place that I

592
00:32:23,093 --> 00:32:25,813
Speaker 16: knew that did that. Because so for our listeners, so

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Speaker 16: they are are they father beans?

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Speaker 2: No, I think it's called worn. You think, Oh you

595
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Speaker 2: mean that goes in them? Huh yeah, that goes there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

596
00:32:34,373 --> 00:32:36,533
Speaker 2: could we will be father beans? Mine was.

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Speaker 16: It's kind of and it's kind of like I always

598
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Speaker 16: describe them, it's kind of like a corn English muffin.

599
00:32:42,053 --> 00:32:43,533
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's actually the word.

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Speaker 16: Thinking about it a little bit like you know, if

601
00:32:45,333 --> 00:32:47,573
Speaker 16: you can imagine it made out of corn or polenta,

602
00:32:48,053 --> 00:32:51,133
Speaker 16: and so that they sort of he's easily quite stodgy,

603
00:32:51,133 --> 00:32:52,893
Speaker 16: but then you mix it, you know, you can fill

604
00:32:52,933 --> 00:32:55,253
Speaker 16: them with all sorts of wonderful ingredients. I love them.

605
00:32:55,253 --> 00:32:56,693
Speaker 2: They're majestic anyway.

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00:32:56,733 --> 00:32:58,693
Speaker 16: Yeah, and we're talking about that because of bean salad.

607
00:32:59,013 --> 00:33:01,093
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, got nice. I'm glad that you thought of

608
00:33:01,093 --> 00:33:04,173
Speaker 2: a transition, because I was just going to say, well, yeah,

609
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Speaker 2: you've got a delicious salad rest for us, because there

610
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Speaker 2: is sort of barbecue season at the moment, especially over

611
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Speaker 2: the next few weekends. I think, so yeah, people around

612
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Speaker 2: the country.

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00:33:12,853 --> 00:33:14,693
Speaker 16: People around the country have got long weekends and we're

614
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Speaker 16: all still barbecuing. Like, man, what I love about this?

615
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Speaker 10: Really?

616
00:33:17,933 --> 00:33:22,133
Speaker 16: I mean, it's your quintessential Kiwi bean salad. I don't

617
00:33:22,173 --> 00:33:25,013
Speaker 16: think I've barely changed it at all over the years.

618
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Speaker 16: I think it's just so great for convenience sake, Jack,

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Speaker 16: you could definitely use canned beans. But I've got to

620
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Speaker 16: tell you, if you go and buy a selection of

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Speaker 16: dried beans from your local bolk store or wherever you

622
00:33:38,013 --> 00:33:40,493
Speaker 16: get your dried beans from, and soak them and cook

623
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Speaker 16: them up, it's going to be better. They've just got

624
00:33:42,853 --> 00:33:46,373
Speaker 16: more what I say, grittin determination about them. They've got

625
00:33:46,413 --> 00:33:49,013
Speaker 16: more bite to them. The canned ones are fine, but

626
00:33:49,053 --> 00:33:51,693
Speaker 16: they can be a little bit mushy. So anyway, this

627
00:33:51,813 --> 00:33:54,013
Speaker 16: is a great one. Also because lots of us have

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Speaker 16: got tons of green beans or purple beans, runner beans

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Speaker 16: coming out of the garden as well. So look, I

630
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Speaker 16: take one cup of sliced green beans lightly cooked. I

631
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Speaker 16: just sort of shot them into not little bits, but

632
00:34:06,533 --> 00:34:09,893
Speaker 16: of two or three centimeter slices, and I pour boiling

633
00:34:09,933 --> 00:34:12,253
Speaker 16: water over them. Jack, because if you boil them and

634
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Speaker 16: forget about them, they go that beautiful gray color. If

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Speaker 16: you just tip boiling water over them, maybe drain it

636
00:34:17,613 --> 00:34:20,093
Speaker 16: and do it twice, and you just leave them to

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Speaker 16: sit in that, then actually you just get the beautiful crunch.

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Speaker 16: But they are still a little bit cooked, which is great.

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Speaker 16: Now the dressing. You want to sim of this in

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00:34:27,933 --> 00:34:30,493
Speaker 16: a little pot. Three quarters of a cup of sugar. Mmm,

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Speaker 16: I know that's a lot of sugar. And I say

642
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Speaker 16: in my recipe, this recipe was in my latest book

643
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Speaker 16: and more from a quiet kitchen, I say, any will

644
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Speaker 16: do I use white sugar and look at that so

645
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Speaker 16: and one cup of side of vinegum and a quarter

646
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Speaker 16: of a cup of ootlive water and you kind of

647
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Speaker 16: simmer all of that together until the sugar is dissolved.

648
00:34:48,853 --> 00:34:51,053
Speaker 16: Set that aside, and that's going to call the rest

649
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Speaker 16: of our salad ingredients. We've got a cup of those

650
00:34:53,933 --> 00:34:56,493
Speaker 16: sliced beans, We've got three to four cups of soaked

651
00:34:56,653 --> 00:35:00,653
Speaker 16: all the canned beans you can use kidney beans, black beans, billotti,

652
00:35:01,213 --> 00:35:01,853
Speaker 16: any of those.

653
00:35:02,013 --> 00:35:02,653
Speaker 10: All of those.

654
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Speaker 16: Just make sure if they're the canned ones, that you've

655
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Speaker 16: drained them quite well. Half a red of half a

656
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Speaker 16: red onion. You can slice that really thinly.

657
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Speaker 13: If you don't like raw.

658
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Speaker 16: Onion, I recommend slicing it or dicing it and then

659
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Speaker 16: chucking it in a little bowl of water with some

660
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Speaker 16: lemon juice in it. It'll take a little bit of

661
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Speaker 16: the sting out of it for you if you're not

662
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Speaker 16: really a huge raw onion fan. But I do recommend

663
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Speaker 16: you still use it in the salad. A cup of

664
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Speaker 16: diced red green or yellow capsicum, again in season at

665
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Speaker 16: the moment, which is great. Half a cup of diced cucumber,

666
00:35:34,693 --> 00:35:38,453
Speaker 16: again fantastic because it's in the season. Half a teaspoon

667
00:35:38,493 --> 00:35:40,733
Speaker 16: of salt or more, you'll do that to taste later.

668
00:35:40,813 --> 00:35:44,933
Speaker 16: On quart of a teaspoon of ground black pepper. And

669
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Speaker 16: I like a small handful of kind of parsley through that.

670
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Speaker 16: So toss the salad, you know, all together with the dressing.

671
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Speaker 16: And there's loads of dressing in this, and the reason

672
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Speaker 16: for that is I then store this in a container

673
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Speaker 16: and I'll feast on it throughout the week, or take

674
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Speaker 16: it to these places if I'm going there, and you

675
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Speaker 16: can keep adding to it so as those beans keep

676
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Speaker 16: coming out of that garden, you know, the rut the

677
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Speaker 16: green beans, or as the capsicans coming out of the

678
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Speaker 16: garden or some you know, you've got another one. You

679
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Speaker 16: can just keep adding to it and the dressing will

680
00:36:13,413 --> 00:36:15,813
Speaker 16: kind of keep it all fresh. And it's really good

681
00:36:15,853 --> 00:36:18,733
Speaker 16: for a week, maybe even a little bit longer. And

682
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Speaker 16: I just love it. It goes with absolutely.

683
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Speaker 2: Everything, certainly does. Yeah, that's so fantastic. That's nice. I

684
00:36:25,213 --> 00:36:28,493
Speaker 2: reckon you have to go raw onion even a little bit,

685
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Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, I think so you just want that bite.

686
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Speaker 2: You just want that part, don't you think.

687
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Speaker 9: Yeah.

688
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Speaker 16: And I'm and as I said, I'm not a big

689
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Speaker 16: raw onion fan, but I'll always do the little soaky,

690
00:36:38,853 --> 00:36:41,653
Speaker 16: soaky thing and it's great. It just works a treat

691
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Speaker 16: with a little bit of lemon juice. It still tastes

692
00:36:43,333 --> 00:36:45,773
Speaker 16: like but it's just taken a little bit of that burnout.

693
00:36:46,053 --> 00:36:48,773
Speaker 16: Sometimes that can repeat on people. I think I think

694
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Speaker 16: you start saying that at a certain day.

695
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Speaker 2: Yeah, starts repeating on me.

696
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Speaker 16: I've never enjoyed that date saying that to me once

697
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Speaker 16: something might repeat on me.

698
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Speaker 8: I was like, it's not a.

699
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Speaker 2: Great line, the romance a little bit. You wouldn't hear

700
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Speaker 2: that Nicole Kidman baby sexic thriller. No, I don't think

701
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Speaker 2: you would not. Hey, thank you so much. We're taking

702
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Speaker 2: it into Will Ferrell or exactly exactly that recipe will

703
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Speaker 2: of course be on the news talksz'db website.

704
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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to

705
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Speaker 1: know Saturday mornings with jackdam and bepure dot co dot

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Speaker 1: nz for high quality supplements News talks'd be.

707
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Speaker 2: Why I've done an absolutely terrible job this morning of

708
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Speaker 2: getting to your comments and feedback. So thank you very

709
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Speaker 2: much for all of your messages. I swear after ten

710
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Speaker 2: o'clock I'm gonna do a much better job. Jack says, Nigel,

711
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Speaker 2: totally agree with your comments regarding processed foods. Feels like

712
00:37:44,213 --> 00:37:46,653
Speaker 2: processed foods and ultra processed foods are having a little

713
00:37:46,653 --> 00:37:49,813
Speaker 2: bit of a moment at the moment. Yes, I think

714
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Speaker 2: you're right with that one, Nigel. My ethos around food

715
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Speaker 2: has always been that if it comes in a packet,

716
00:37:56,293 --> 00:37:58,813
Speaker 2: it isn't a whole food, and that ultimately whole foods

717
00:37:58,813 --> 00:38:00,893
Speaker 2: are going to be more nourishing for you, going to

718
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Speaker 2: be more nutritious, probably not quite as delicious as some

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Speaker 2: of the ones in the center aisles of the super Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think you're probably right on that one, Nigel. It's funny, right,

721
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Speaker 2: don't they say that in nature? I think it's really

722
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Speaker 2: hard to find foods that have the combination of carbohydrates,

723
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Speaker 2: sugars and fats that you often get in ultra processed foods.

724
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Speaker 2: But anyway, you look at those health stats and the

725
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Speaker 2: health spending in the US, and then you correlate that

726
00:38:25,733 --> 00:38:27,973
Speaker 2: with the diet and I reckon that. Rfk Jr on

727
00:38:28,053 --> 00:38:31,773
Speaker 2: that point, if not on many others, talks a lot

728
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Speaker 2: of sense. Anyway, more feedback after ten o'clock ninety two

729
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Speaker 2: ninety two's the text number you can email me like

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Speaker 2: Nigel did. Jacketnewstalksb dot co dot nz is the email address.

731
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Speaker 2: Don't forget. Our feature interview right after the ten o'clock

732
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Speaker 2: news is ki we Museo. Nadia read she has just

733
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Speaker 2: upsticks moved across the world with her young family to Manchester,

734
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Speaker 2: which has a bit of a musical dynasty as it is,

735
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Speaker 2: so catching up with her about that her new album's

736
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Speaker 2: about to be dropped as well. News is next though

737
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Speaker 2: it is almost ten o'clock. I'm Jack Tame, It's Saturday

738
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Speaker 2: morning and this is Newstalk ZEDB.

739
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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

740
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Speaker 1: Jack Day and bpewer dot co dot instead for high

741
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Speaker 1: quality supplements, News talks.

742
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Speaker 2: Just so good Day. In less than a week's time,

743
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Speaker 2: Kiwi Museo, Nadia Reid is going to release her fourth album.

744
00:39:42,973 --> 00:39:46,413
Speaker 2: The album is called inter Now Brightness. It's her first

745
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Speaker 2: album in five years, and from what we've heard so far,

746
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Speaker 2: it is a record of poise and beauty and a

747
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Speaker 2: little bit of fun as well. Nadia Reid is with

748
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Speaker 2: us this morning, Kilda, Good morning.

749
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Speaker 17: Ah Keilder, it is good morning. I'm in the night.

750
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Speaker 3: The I think of the night, Well, this is it.

751
00:40:07,893 --> 00:40:10,933
Speaker 2: I feel like that we should confront the elephant in

752
00:40:10,973 --> 00:40:14,653
Speaker 2: the room immediately, which is that into our brightness. Marks

753
00:40:14,653 --> 00:40:16,933
Speaker 2: has shifted on lots of different fronts, but I suppose

754
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Speaker 2: it also, Mark's a literal shift for you. You're speaking to

755
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Speaker 2: us from Manchester, of all places, and this is your

756
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Speaker 2: new home.

757
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Speaker 13: It is been here fourteen months.

758
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Speaker 17: Yeah, it's it's it's starting to feel at home now.

759
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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's taken me a while.

760
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Speaker 17: I think anyone that's been to Manchester, well, anyone that's

761
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Speaker 17: been the UK knows that arriving in the depths of

762
00:40:42,733 --> 00:40:47,853
Speaker 17: winter is a tough one. But it's grown on me

763
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Speaker 17: and yeah, it's feeling good.

764
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Speaker 2: It's a shock, isn't it. When you see the sun

765
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Speaker 2: setting like quarter to four in the afternoon, you think,

766
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Speaker 2: hang on, hang on, I'm being robbed here.

767
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Speaker 17: Totally, and just you know, we're just like taking Vitamin

768
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Speaker 17: D every day because you actually don't see I mean,

769
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Speaker 17: there was a little bit of sun today, but yeah,

770
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Speaker 17: I'm hanging out for a Kiwi summer for sure.

771
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So why Manchester, Why Manchester of all places?

772
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Speaker 17: Well, my management lived here, I and my press agent

773
00:41:26,613 --> 00:41:31,413
Speaker 17: lived here, lives here, and so I visited over there

774
00:41:31,613 --> 00:41:36,893
Speaker 17: last well since twenty sixteen. I visited Manchester a lot,

775
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Speaker 17: and well, I toured the UK a lot, and I

776
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Speaker 17: think initially I was I really was quite smating with Brighton,

777
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Speaker 17: and you know, I really like London and I think

778
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Speaker 17: those places perhaps were just a little bit well, it

779
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Speaker 17: just didn't feel like the right time to be in

780
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Speaker 17: London and so we went up north and knew three

781
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Speaker 17: people and just kind of took a bit of a

782
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Speaker 17: risk c really and it's I mean also, I think

783
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Speaker 17: there is a bit of an exodus happening at the moment,

784
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Speaker 17: Like people are leaving London and moving sort of all

785
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Speaker 17: over the place because they want more room. And you know,

786
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Speaker 17: even my friends in London who have very fancy jobs,

787
00:42:28,893 --> 00:42:31,013
Speaker 17: you know, they're still in very small flats and I

788
00:42:31,133 --> 00:42:32,413
Speaker 17: just wanted a bit more.

789
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Speaker 13: Space.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good for you.

791
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Speaker 2: It's not like Manchester doesn't have a rich musical history

792
00:42:38,533 --> 00:42:43,773
Speaker 2: as well, so you know exactly, yeah, yeah, oh very good. Well,

793
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Speaker 2: one adventure for you and your family. But like I say,

794
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Speaker 2: into ow Brightness kind of marks a bit of a

795
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Speaker 2: shift on multiple fronts, including stylistically. And so you've got

796
00:42:54,973 --> 00:42:58,053
Speaker 2: a collection of tracks that have written all over the place,

797
00:42:58,093 --> 00:43:02,333
Speaker 2: I think from Port Charmers to Tama Chema, Koto Auckland

798
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Speaker 2: to tenor Reef of all places. So what were you

799
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Speaker 2: trying to achieve with internap Runness.

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Speaker 17: I think this album was that the approach was different

801
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Speaker 17: because when my third album Out of My Province came

802
00:43:18,813 --> 00:43:23,293
Speaker 17: out March twenty twenty, that the whole natural order of

803
00:43:23,453 --> 00:43:26,653
Speaker 17: things was kind of interrupted. You know, we were all

804
00:43:26,933 --> 00:43:33,413
Speaker 17: going through this universal experience of the pandemic, and of

805
00:43:33,453 --> 00:43:36,493
Speaker 17: course the borders closed, and so suddenly my year of.

806
00:43:38,213 --> 00:43:40,053
Speaker 13: Touring was suddenly.

807
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Speaker 17: Not there, and so I didn't get to kind of

808
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Speaker 17: stretch that album's legs and you know, kind of have

809
00:43:49,373 --> 00:43:53,373
Speaker 17: the natural time an experience to write the next album.

810
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Speaker 17: So it actually took me two years to write. And

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Speaker 17: you know, at one point I thought, well, I don't

812
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Speaker 17: have terribly much to say. You know, we were sort

813
00:44:03,893 --> 00:44:07,813
Speaker 17: of inside, we were in our home homes, and at

814
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Speaker 17: times it was quite confronting.

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Speaker 13: But it turns out I did have.

816
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Speaker 3: I had.

817
00:44:13,973 --> 00:44:17,173
Speaker 17: I wrote twelve we recorded twelve songs Tina, which made

818
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Speaker 17: it onto the album. So somehow throughout that those two

819
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Speaker 17: years and a few years prior, I wrote all these songs.

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Speaker 17: And I suppose in terms of what we were trying

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Speaker 17: to achieve it, I didn't terribly think too much too

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Speaker 17: far ahead. Really, you know, I think sometimes when you

823
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Speaker 17: said out, I mean, I've made four albums now, and

824
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Speaker 17: every every time I've made a record, there's always a

825
00:44:46,133 --> 00:44:49,653
Speaker 17: point in which it feels really impossible, or it feels

826
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Speaker 17: too hard, or that you can't see the end, and

827
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Speaker 17: so I suppose I was just trying to make the

828
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Speaker 17: best use of time with everyone, you know, being in

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Speaker 17: the country. And also I was pregnant with both my

830
00:45:06,133 --> 00:45:09,973
Speaker 17: daughter is over the two years, and so there was

831
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Speaker 17: this sort of sense of I don't know, sort of

832
00:45:14,813 --> 00:45:18,893
Speaker 17: urgency perhaps that you know, I wanted it in the

833
00:45:18,933 --> 00:45:26,133
Speaker 17: bag before the baby came, and it didn't. You know,

834
00:45:26,573 --> 00:45:29,493
Speaker 17: it wasn't done until I flew out to the UK.

835
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Speaker 17: That was the marking point of it being finished.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Jack Tame on new Stalk ZB. I'm

837
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Speaker 2: speaking with Kiwe Museo, Nadia Read and Nadia you mentioned

838
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Speaker 2: your kids. So in the years since your last album

839
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Speaker 2: you have had two. How do you feel that has

840
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Speaker 2: kind of changed your perspectives or changed your creative output.

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Speaker 13: I mean, it's it's it's a huge, it's a huge thing, and.

842
00:46:03,973 --> 00:46:06,613
Speaker 17: You know I've been I mean, I could say so much,

843
00:46:06,933 --> 00:46:10,853
Speaker 17: but it's been so much better than I expected. And

844
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Speaker 17: I think there was this fear around, you know, do

845
00:46:18,453 --> 00:46:22,293
Speaker 17: I have to choose? And I remember before I when

846
00:46:22,333 --> 00:46:24,373
Speaker 17: I first met my now husband.

847
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Speaker 2: You're listening to Jack Tame on news Talks. I'db I'm

848
00:46:27,333 --> 00:46:31,093
Speaker 2: speaking with Kiwei Museo, Nadia Read and Nadia you mentioned

849
00:46:31,133 --> 00:46:34,213
Speaker 2: your kids. So in the years since your last album,

850
00:46:34,613 --> 00:46:39,053
Speaker 2: you have had two. How do you feel that has

851
00:46:39,333 --> 00:46:46,173
Speaker 2: kind of changed your perspectives or changed your creative output.

852
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Speaker 17: I remember saying to him, like, if I have to choose,

853
00:46:49,173 --> 00:46:52,413
Speaker 17: you know, I want I don't want to give up music,

854
00:46:52,533 --> 00:46:56,053
Speaker 17: like I want this career. You know, it's so it

855
00:46:56,133 --> 00:46:59,013
Speaker 17: feels so fulfilling to me. It gives me such great purpose.

856
00:46:59,573 --> 00:47:03,173
Speaker 17: So if someone's making me choose, I choose this and

857
00:47:03,213 --> 00:47:06,413
Speaker 17: then slowly I sort of, you know, softened into.

858
00:47:08,213 --> 00:47:08,613
Speaker 13: Things.

859
00:47:08,733 --> 00:47:13,813
Speaker 17: And then I've had had the two girls, and you know,

860
00:47:13,853 --> 00:47:18,293
Speaker 17: I've got an abundance of women musicians that inspire me.

861
00:47:18,413 --> 00:47:21,733
Speaker 17: You know, Tammy Nielsen, I've had like amazing talks with

862
00:47:21,773 --> 00:47:25,533
Speaker 17: her about how how she manages motherhood and touring and

863
00:47:26,453 --> 00:47:31,133
Speaker 17: you know, I mean, I we don't want to talk politics,

864
00:47:31,173 --> 00:47:34,613
Speaker 17: but c Cinda I done was an amazing you know

865
00:47:34,693 --> 00:47:37,813
Speaker 17: at that time, you know, to see a woman having

866
00:47:37,813 --> 00:47:40,173
Speaker 17: a job and being a mom, you know, it was

867
00:47:40,693 --> 00:47:45,493
Speaker 17: meaningful to me politics aside. And so I suppose, you know,

868
00:47:46,573 --> 00:47:50,133
Speaker 17: I feel proud at the moment because I do have

869
00:47:50,253 --> 00:47:53,653
Speaker 17: both I'm making it work and I have a really

870
00:47:53,693 --> 00:47:58,013
Speaker 17: good co parent, and I think it's uh, you know,

871
00:47:58,013 --> 00:48:02,413
Speaker 17: I read a quote recently by another artist who said,

872
00:48:02,453 --> 00:48:04,373
Speaker 17: you know that the pram in the hallway isn't the

873
00:48:04,453 --> 00:48:09,653
Speaker 17: enemy of art, and so I guess that's kind of

874
00:48:09,733 --> 00:48:18,533
Speaker 17: just my I'm feeling invigorated by yeah, by living in

875
00:48:18,613 --> 00:48:27,813
Speaker 17: this time where where I'm not saying it's easy, but

876
00:48:27,813 --> 00:48:31,333
Speaker 17: but it's given me this deep sense of meaning. Mother

877
00:48:31,493 --> 00:48:33,773
Speaker 17: mothering has given me a deep sense of meaning and

878
00:48:33,853 --> 00:48:35,173
Speaker 17: it's but then it's humbling.

879
00:48:37,653 --> 00:48:41,813
Speaker 2: The reason sorry to talk that. I think on the

880
00:48:41,853 --> 00:48:45,533
Speaker 2: first track on the album is it Emmanuel, I think

881
00:48:45,573 --> 00:48:48,093
Speaker 2: you had an experience because you were leaving Port Charmers

882
00:48:48,133 --> 00:48:51,973
Speaker 2: and you know, kind of packing up home and you

883
00:48:52,053 --> 00:48:54,413
Speaker 2: had a young baby, and there was a sense in

884
00:48:54,413 --> 00:48:58,173
Speaker 2: writing that song that yeah, there was you sort of

885
00:48:58,173 --> 00:49:01,493
Speaker 2: get you get hit by the wave of purpose that

886
00:49:01,493 --> 00:49:03,973
Speaker 2: that people talk about coming with parenting, and you sort

887
00:49:04,013 --> 00:49:07,173
Speaker 2: of you know, and you're left contemplating some of the

888
00:49:07,173 --> 00:49:07,973
Speaker 2: big questions in.

889
00:49:07,933 --> 00:49:12,053
Speaker 17: Life totally, And I think it's you know, the first

890
00:49:12,133 --> 00:49:16,893
Speaker 17: line is yeah, like can this circle never break? There's

891
00:49:16,933 --> 00:49:19,493
Speaker 17: there's far too much at stake now, and I think

892
00:49:19,533 --> 00:49:23,933
Speaker 17: I had that sense of you know that there's someone

893
00:49:23,933 --> 00:49:28,373
Speaker 17: else that really matters, and the other the other sort

894
00:49:28,373 --> 00:49:32,173
Speaker 17: of thing I sort of have kept in the well,

895
00:49:32,373 --> 00:49:33,893
Speaker 17: I keep it in the back of my mind as

896
00:49:33,893 --> 00:49:36,853
Speaker 17: a as a Carlion quote that where he says, you know,

897
00:49:36,893 --> 00:49:40,093
Speaker 17: the greatest burden a child must can carry is the

898
00:49:40,573 --> 00:49:45,253
Speaker 17: unlived life of its parent. And I suppose I keep

899
00:49:45,253 --> 00:49:49,053
Speaker 17: that in mind when I'm when I'm out doing this

900
00:49:49,173 --> 00:49:52,213
Speaker 17: crazy thing on stage, you know, and traveling and doing

901
00:49:52,253 --> 00:49:57,533
Speaker 17: this sort of bizarre, mysterious work that you know, the

902
00:49:57,533 --> 00:50:01,373
Speaker 17: more fulfilled I am, the better the better mum I

903
00:50:01,733 --> 00:50:02,093
Speaker 17: can be.

904
00:50:05,093 --> 00:50:10,973
Speaker 13: And so yeah, so it's I guess I suppose I've answered. Yeah,

905
00:50:11,093 --> 00:50:15,133
Speaker 13: I mean it's it's been better than I expected.

906
00:50:15,413 --> 00:50:20,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, putting that out and put it on the

907
00:50:20,453 --> 00:50:21,133
Speaker 2: tea towel, Like.

908
00:50:26,293 --> 00:50:28,573
Speaker 17: You know, when I was pregnant the first time, I was,

909
00:50:28,613 --> 00:50:32,453
Speaker 17: like I said to my husband, like, if someone tells me,

910
00:50:32,653 --> 00:50:36,453
Speaker 17: if I hear one more person say enjoy your sleep,

911
00:50:36,493 --> 00:50:40,693
Speaker 17: well you can, I'm going to scream because I mean, yes,

912
00:50:40,813 --> 00:50:44,933
Speaker 17: like it's tiring and it's crazy, but also like you

913
00:50:44,973 --> 00:50:50,013
Speaker 17: can't forget that you're deliriously tired, but like it's just

914
00:50:50,293 --> 00:50:54,733
Speaker 17: it's also really just deliciously joyful as well. So there

915
00:50:54,773 --> 00:50:57,973
Speaker 17: was this kind of and I love to sleep, you know,

916
00:50:58,013 --> 00:51:01,373
Speaker 17: I could sleep ten hours every night, so I was

917
00:51:01,413 --> 00:51:06,693
Speaker 17: really worried about my sleep. But you know, you just

918
00:51:06,733 --> 00:51:10,293
Speaker 17: sort of you're all jacked up on the hormones. And yeah,

919
00:51:10,333 --> 00:51:13,453
Speaker 17: and also as a touring musician, like my friend Holly

920
00:51:13,453 --> 00:51:15,973
Speaker 17: for Brooks said like, we're actually like pretty well trained

921
00:51:16,013 --> 00:51:20,453
Speaker 17: for this mothering thing because we're used to like not

922
00:51:20,493 --> 00:51:24,453
Speaker 17: getting much sleep and like sort of being under high pressure.

923
00:51:26,373 --> 00:51:31,093
Speaker 2: Time zones and just kind of no routine and yeah, yeah.

924
00:51:30,613 --> 00:51:33,173
Speaker 13: Exactly, so it's actually quite good training for.

925
00:51:35,093 --> 00:51:35,253
Speaker 3: It.

926
00:51:35,613 --> 00:51:39,293
Speaker 2: So you're back home just before Christmas. I think you're

927
00:51:39,293 --> 00:51:41,693
Speaker 2: touring in the UK shortly, and what's the plane are

928
00:51:41,693 --> 00:51:44,493
Speaker 2: you gonna bring? Like come back here but later in

929
00:51:44,493 --> 00:51:46,213
Speaker 2: the year and maybe do a bit more touring.

930
00:51:46,453 --> 00:51:49,213
Speaker 17: It's yeah, we're looking at November, so I really want

931
00:51:49,253 --> 00:51:52,613
Speaker 17: to catch the Selfishly, I'm going to time it around

932
00:51:52,693 --> 00:51:56,933
Speaker 17: summer because in December and January it's just a small

933
00:51:56,973 --> 00:51:58,093
Speaker 17: hair yah.

934
00:51:59,653 --> 00:52:01,453
Speaker 13: But also yeah, it's.

935
00:52:01,333 --> 00:52:06,893
Speaker 17: Just timing, and but I can't wait to know, I think,

936
00:52:06,933 --> 00:52:11,493
Speaker 17: and I'm lucky that, you know, I have this sort

937
00:52:11,533 --> 00:52:15,133
Speaker 17: of job that's going to bring me back every so often,

938
00:52:15,253 --> 00:52:19,413
Speaker 17: and my band is still living there, so it's I

939
00:52:19,453 --> 00:52:22,813
Speaker 17: definitely have a lot of sort of heartstrings still pulling.

940
00:52:23,173 --> 00:52:25,413
Speaker 13: Yeah, well across the oceans.

941
00:52:25,493 --> 00:52:28,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I'm pleased to hear that. Hey, congratulations on

942
00:52:29,093 --> 00:52:32,573
Speaker 2: Into Our Brightness and yeah, good luck for the for

943
00:52:32,613 --> 00:52:34,653
Speaker 2: the next few weeks and for touring in the UK,

944
00:52:34,773 --> 00:52:36,853
Speaker 2: and we do very much look forward to having you

945
00:52:36,893 --> 00:52:38,573
Speaker 2: back on home soil.

946
00:52:38,853 --> 00:52:39,773
Speaker 13: Oh, thanks so.

947
00:52:39,813 --> 00:52:43,693
Speaker 2: Much, really good to chat, Nadia. Nadia read. Her new album,

948
00:52:43,773 --> 00:52:47,133
Speaker 2: Into Our Brightness is out on Friday on all of

949
00:52:47,133 --> 00:52:49,893
Speaker 2: the usual streaming platforms, or you can pick up a

950
00:52:49,973 --> 00:52:54,053
Speaker 2: vinyl copy at Nadia Reid dot com. Right now, it

951
00:52:54,133 --> 00:52:56,453
Speaker 2: is just coming up to twenty one minutes past past

952
00:52:56,493 --> 00:52:58,453
Speaker 2: ten on News Talks. He'd been a couple of minutes.

953
00:52:58,493 --> 00:53:00,733
Speaker 2: If you're looking forward to a weekend on the couch,

954
00:53:00,773 --> 00:53:03,733
Speaker 2: I feel like some binge watching. Three fantastic shows to

955
00:53:03,813 --> 00:53:06,093
Speaker 2: recommend in our screen time segment.

956
00:53:07,053 --> 00:53:10,493
Speaker 1: Start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with Jack

957
00:53:10,573 --> 00:53:13,973
Speaker 1: Tain and Bpwott dot code on inzead for high quality

958
00:53:14,053 --> 00:53:15,693
Speaker 1: Supplements US Talk SEDB.

959
00:53:15,973 --> 00:53:18,773
Speaker 2: Twenty three past ten on your Saturday morning, which means

960
00:53:18,813 --> 00:53:22,733
Speaker 2: it's screen Time Time on News Talks EDB. Screen time

961
00:53:22,813 --> 00:53:25,173
Speaker 2: expert Tara Ward is here with her picks for us

962
00:53:25,173 --> 00:53:29,173
Speaker 2: this weekend. Hey Tara, good morning. Three new shows watching

963
00:53:29,213 --> 00:53:31,693
Speaker 2: or streaming at home. So tell us first of all

964
00:53:31,853 --> 00:53:33,853
Speaker 2: about Paradise on Disney Plus.

965
00:53:34,653 --> 00:53:34,893
Speaker 18: Yeah.

966
00:53:34,893 --> 00:53:38,413
Speaker 19: This is a fantastic new American drama that's just dropped

967
00:53:38,413 --> 00:53:40,853
Speaker 19: this week, and it feels like a mix between The

968
00:53:40,893 --> 00:53:44,813
Speaker 19: West Wing and The Truman Show. It's created by Dan Fogelman,

969
00:53:44,893 --> 00:53:47,933
Speaker 19: who made the very popular show This Is Us, and

970
00:53:48,013 --> 00:53:52,213
Speaker 19: it stars Sterling K. Brown and James Marsden and Sterling K.

971
00:53:52,333 --> 00:53:55,733
Speaker 19: Brown plays the head of the security service for the

972
00:53:55,773 --> 00:53:58,613
Speaker 19: American President and he arrives at work one day to

973
00:53:58,693 --> 00:54:01,533
Speaker 19: find the president dead and has to work out what

974
00:54:01,573 --> 00:54:04,053
Speaker 19: has happened and who's responsible. And there's a lot of

975
00:54:04,093 --> 00:54:08,053
Speaker 19: flashbacks that flesh out the relationship with the President and

976
00:54:08,053 --> 00:54:10,973
Speaker 19: how they've worked together over the last few years. But

977
00:54:11,053 --> 00:54:13,333
Speaker 19: the thing about the show is that there's something happening

978
00:54:13,373 --> 00:54:16,693
Speaker 19: in the background, very quietly, that isn't quite right. There's

979
00:54:16,733 --> 00:54:19,693
Speaker 19: something strange about the world that this story is set in.

980
00:54:20,253 --> 00:54:23,053
Speaker 19: And there's a twist at the end of episode one

981
00:54:23,093 --> 00:54:26,173
Speaker 19: that I won't give away, but it changes things completely

982
00:54:26,253 --> 00:54:29,373
Speaker 19: and gives the show quite a different tone and direction

983
00:54:30,133 --> 00:54:32,413
Speaker 19: in a good way. It's a really interesting idea and

984
00:54:32,493 --> 00:54:35,413
Speaker 19: makes the show stand out from other political thrillers.

985
00:54:35,533 --> 00:54:35,733
Speaker 2: Yeah.

986
00:54:36,373 --> 00:54:37,253
Speaker 9: I like this a lot.

987
00:54:37,493 --> 00:54:40,453
Speaker 19: It's taking that well known format of the American political

988
00:54:40,453 --> 00:54:42,373
Speaker 19: thriller and playing with it and having a bit of

989
00:54:42,413 --> 00:54:46,093
Speaker 19: fun with it, but still giving us believable characters and

990
00:54:46,213 --> 00:54:50,813
Speaker 19: tense drama. The story does unfold quite slowly, but it's

991
00:54:50,853 --> 00:54:52,933
Speaker 19: smart and slick. There's a bit of mystery in there

992
00:54:52,973 --> 00:54:55,693
Speaker 19: as well, and it's just really entertaining storytelling.

993
00:54:55,733 --> 00:54:58,813
Speaker 2: Toe superb Okay, that's Paradise. It's on Disney Plus on

994
00:54:58,933 --> 00:55:01,573
Speaker 2: TV and Z Plus a new series of Rogue Heroes.

995
00:55:02,373 --> 00:55:02,613
Speaker 13: Yeah.

996
00:55:02,613 --> 00:55:05,653
Speaker 19: This is a great BBC drama. It's a World War

997
00:55:05,653 --> 00:55:09,813
Speaker 19: two series in the North African desert and it's inspired

998
00:55:09,853 --> 00:55:12,813
Speaker 19: by true events. It's the story of how the ESAs

999
00:55:12,893 --> 00:55:15,653
Speaker 19: was formed during World War II, and so it follows

1000
00:55:15,693 --> 00:55:19,693
Speaker 19: three British soldiers who in nineteen forty one are feeling

1001
00:55:19,733 --> 00:55:23,013
Speaker 19: pretty disillusioned with the progress of the war. They come

1002
00:55:23,093 --> 00:55:25,213
Speaker 19: up with this idea that they could do more damage

1003
00:55:25,373 --> 00:55:27,773
Speaker 19: on the ground than in the air, and they formed

1004
00:55:27,813 --> 00:55:31,453
Speaker 19: this group of soldiers who parachute in behind enemy lines

1005
00:55:31,573 --> 00:55:34,933
Speaker 19: and fight the enemy when they lest expect it. And

1006
00:55:34,973 --> 00:55:36,693
Speaker 19: they kind of made this up as they went along.

1007
00:55:36,933 --> 00:55:38,773
Speaker 19: They lived by this ethos.

1008
00:55:38,333 --> 00:55:39,213
Speaker 3: Of no rules.

1009
00:55:39,573 --> 00:55:43,493
Speaker 19: They would recruit other soldiers who were troublemakers and had

1010
00:55:43,533 --> 00:55:46,533
Speaker 19: no problems doing things a little bit differently, and the

1011
00:55:46,573 --> 00:55:50,053
Speaker 19: show follows these guys as they keep risking their lives

1012
00:55:50,533 --> 00:55:54,253
Speaker 19: to pull off these unlikely feats in the war. So

1013
00:55:54,293 --> 00:55:58,573
Speaker 19: it's full of adventure and danger and fights and explosions.

1014
00:55:58,573 --> 00:56:01,773
Speaker 19: There's some really big energy here. It's got a modern

1015
00:56:01,813 --> 00:56:05,013
Speaker 19: soundtrack which adds to that as well, but funny too.

1016
00:56:05,093 --> 00:56:07,093
Speaker 19: There's lots of humor in this which keeps at light.

1017
00:56:07,733 --> 00:56:11,053
Speaker 19: The cast is great. It stars Dominic West and Alfie Allen.

1018
00:56:11,453 --> 00:56:14,893
Speaker 19: The characters are all, you know, likable rogues. They don't

1019
00:56:14,893 --> 00:56:18,893
Speaker 19: always do the right thing, but you can't help like them. Again,

1020
00:56:18,973 --> 00:56:23,093
Speaker 19: another really entertaining, well made show, and it's not trying

1021
00:56:23,133 --> 00:56:24,813
Speaker 19: to stick completely to the facts.

1022
00:56:24,813 --> 00:56:26,573
Speaker 8: It's not trying to give a history lesson.

1023
00:56:26,813 --> 00:56:28,173
Speaker 19: But it's just a lot of fun to watch.

1024
00:56:28,253 --> 00:56:30,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, great, it sounds awesome. The new series of

1025
00:56:30,693 --> 00:56:33,293
Speaker 2: Rogue here, So that's on TV and Z Plus and

1026
00:56:33,413 --> 00:56:35,213
Speaker 2: on Netflix, tell Us about the Recruit.

1027
00:56:36,133 --> 00:56:38,333
Speaker 19: Yeah, another new spice thriller. I feel like there's been

1028
00:56:38,453 --> 00:56:41,333
Speaker 19: so many spy Fellers coming out lately. But this is

1029
00:56:41,373 --> 00:56:44,613
Speaker 19: the Recruit on Netflix. It's the second season drop this week.

1030
00:56:44,933 --> 00:56:47,653
Speaker 19: And this series is directed by Doug Lyman, who made

1031
00:56:47,693 --> 00:56:51,133
Speaker 19: films like The Bourne Identity, Mister and Missus Smith Edge

1032
00:56:51,173 --> 00:56:53,733
Speaker 19: of Tomorrow, so you know he knows how to make

1033
00:56:53,773 --> 00:56:57,053
Speaker 19: an action packed blockbuster and that's effectively what The Recruit

1034
00:56:57,173 --> 00:57:00,653
Speaker 19: is in TV series form. This is about a young

1035
00:57:00,853 --> 00:57:03,893
Speaker 19: CIA lawyer who, on the first week of the job,

1036
00:57:04,053 --> 00:57:08,093
Speaker 19: gets caught up in an international case involving a former

1037
00:57:08,173 --> 00:57:12,613
Speaker 19: spy who is threatening to leak important classified details unless

1038
00:57:12,893 --> 00:57:15,573
Speaker 19: he can help her get out of jail. And look,

1039
00:57:15,573 --> 00:57:17,813
Speaker 19: I'm not going to pretend this is the best TV

1040
00:57:17,893 --> 00:57:21,333
Speaker 19: show ever made. This is another show that is just entertainment.

1041
00:57:21,413 --> 00:57:24,293
Speaker 19: If you want an action thriller that is bingible and

1042
00:57:24,453 --> 00:57:26,453
Speaker 19: has a bit of charm to it, this will do

1043
00:57:26,533 --> 00:57:28,693
Speaker 19: the trick. You probably won't remember it for a long

1044
00:57:28,693 --> 00:57:31,013
Speaker 19: time afterwards, but you'll have a great time watching it.

1045
00:57:31,053 --> 00:57:33,413
Speaker 2: Yeah nice, Okay, it sounds good. So that's the Recruit

1046
00:57:33,493 --> 00:57:37,213
Speaker 2: that's on Netflix. Rogue Heroes is on TVNZ Plus and

1047
00:57:37,373 --> 00:57:40,333
Speaker 2: Paradise is on Disney Plus. Thank you so much, Tara.

1048
00:57:40,413 --> 00:57:42,853
Speaker 2: We will talk again this time next week. Right now,

1049
00:57:42,893 --> 00:57:44,413
Speaker 2: it is twenty eight minutes past.

1050
00:57:44,213 --> 00:57:49,853
Speaker 3: Ten, getting your weekend started.

1051
00:57:50,053 --> 00:58:11,933
Speaker 1: It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News talk zbeah It.

1052
00:58:12,053 --> 00:58:13,653
Speaker 2: A bit of a twist in an old favorite day.

1053
00:58:13,933 --> 00:58:18,013
Speaker 2: That's sing It Back by Young Franco featuring Danna Williams.

1054
00:58:18,053 --> 00:58:22,053
Speaker 2: So Young Franco is like an ossie DJ who's released

1055
00:58:22,093 --> 00:58:25,973
Speaker 2: his debut album hot off the summer festival circuits. He

1056
00:58:26,013 --> 00:58:28,053
Speaker 2: was in New Zealand playing at R and V in

1057
00:58:28,093 --> 00:58:32,333
Speaker 2: Gisbon over New Year's Rhythm and Vines, originally from Brizzy,

1058
00:58:32,773 --> 00:58:35,813
Speaker 2: but probably best known for remixing the work of some

1059
00:58:35,853 --> 00:58:38,453
Speaker 2: of the hottest artists in the world right now, the

1060
00:58:38,573 --> 00:58:41,453
Speaker 2: likes of Charlie x X and Dua Lipa, sampling those

1061
00:58:41,493 --> 00:58:43,933
Speaker 2: classic disco tracks that we know and love as well.

1062
00:58:44,453 --> 00:58:49,013
Speaker 2: The album For the album, rather Young Franco has really

1063
00:58:49,053 --> 00:58:52,093
Speaker 2: kind of leaned on collaborators to create a bit of

1064
00:58:52,133 --> 00:58:54,933
Speaker 2: a mix, a bit of a blend genre wise. The

1065
00:58:54,973 --> 00:58:58,733
Speaker 2: album's called Frankie Baby, and we're gonna make sure we

1066
00:58:58,733 --> 00:59:00,173
Speaker 2: save a little bit of time on the show so

1067
00:59:00,213 --> 00:59:02,653
Speaker 2: we can have a listen before twelve o'clock today, before

1068
00:59:03,053 --> 00:59:05,213
Speaker 2: before eleven o'clock. Rather, we're in the garden with rue

1069
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Speaker 2: kleimb passed our man then the garden. Next up though

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Speaker 2: our Texpert where the big week and robotaxis and AI.

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Speaker 2: Right now it is twenty eight minutes to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic Hosking

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00:59:20,893 --> 00:59:21,853
Speaker 1: Breakfast turns.

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00:59:21,613 --> 00:59:23,733
Speaker 12: Out the United States now our second biggest export market,

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00:59:23,813 --> 00:59:26,053
Speaker 12: where once Australia was everything. Now it's third. So China,

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00:59:26,093 --> 00:59:28,813
Speaker 12: the US and now Australia trade mins to Tom mclo's, well, look.

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Speaker 20: I think there's softness in the Australian market, so that

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00:59:30,853 --> 00:59:32,773
Speaker 20: filmed us through to sort of our trade. But it's

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00:59:32,773 --> 00:59:35,133
Speaker 20: still very very important to us about what's happened in

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00:59:35,173 --> 00:59:37,813
Speaker 20: America is they are consuming more and as their economy

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00:59:37,853 --> 00:59:40,573
Speaker 20: is growing quickly, they're looking towards many countries of the

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00:59:40,613 --> 00:59:43,493
Speaker 20: world and New Zealand. Incidentally, although this isn't to do

1083
00:59:43,613 --> 00:59:46,453
Speaker 20: with President Trump. When he became president last time, our

1084
00:59:46,493 --> 00:59:49,213
Speaker 20: trade with the US grew very very quickly, and although

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00:59:49,213 --> 00:59:51,053
Speaker 20: there's a bit of uncertainty about what he might or

1086
00:59:51,133 --> 00:59:54,093
Speaker 20: might not do around tariffs, my prediction is New Zealand

1087
00:59:54,093 --> 00:59:56,613
Speaker 20: exporters will do very very well in the US market.

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Speaker 12: Back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 12: the Rain Drover of the Last News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five to eleven on newsbook zib. Well, the AI

1091
01:00:04,733 --> 01:00:06,973
Speaker 2: world was sort of turned on its head this week.

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01:00:07,013 --> 01:00:11,133
Speaker 2: Went out of nowhere a Chinese company, and a Chinese

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01:00:11,173 --> 01:00:15,333
Speaker 2: AI model run by a company called deep Seek was

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01:00:15,373 --> 01:00:20,533
Speaker 2: released to the world and for a fraction of the cost,

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01:00:20,653 --> 01:00:22,853
Speaker 2: like a one hundredth of the cost of the likes

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01:00:22,853 --> 01:00:26,613
Speaker 2: of chat GPT produced what appeared to be a pretty

1097
01:00:26,813 --> 01:00:31,493
Speaker 2: effective generative AI model. So you could go online and Jay, hey,

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01:00:32,373 --> 01:00:35,693
Speaker 2: write me an essay on the fall of the Roman Empire.

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01:00:36,053 --> 01:00:38,253
Speaker 2: I need two thousand words, and I need it in

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Speaker 2: fifteen seconds, and it could do it. Our texpert Paul

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01:00:41,333 --> 01:00:43,773
Speaker 2: Stenhouse is here with the details, and Paul, this sort

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01:00:43,773 --> 01:00:46,453
Speaker 2: of came out of nowhere. A it did.

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Speaker 5: And the thing that was so fascinating about it not

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01:00:48,893 --> 01:00:51,773
Speaker 5: just that cost Jack there was so much lower than

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01:00:51,813 --> 01:00:54,573
Speaker 5: what these US firms have spent on AI. It's that

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01:00:54,613 --> 01:00:55,453
Speaker 5: they've managed to.

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01:00:55,453 --> 01:00:58,773
Speaker 2: Do it with old hardware basically right.

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Speaker 5: So one of the big things here was that the

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01:01:00,893 --> 01:01:04,773
Speaker 5: US had basically put a ban on in vidious chips

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Speaker 5: going over to China to be used for AI. They

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01:01:08,053 --> 01:01:11,253
Speaker 5: wanted to make sure that the US was best positioned

1112
01:01:11,293 --> 01:01:14,053
Speaker 5: for this you know AI revolution or still will be

1113
01:01:14,213 --> 01:01:18,773
Speaker 5: the best position for this revolution. And so China was

1114
01:01:18,813 --> 01:01:21,013
Speaker 5: really forced to make do with what they.

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01:01:20,933 --> 01:01:23,973
Speaker 2: Had and make do did they?

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01:01:24,733 --> 01:01:27,813
Speaker 5: Because it's just like that's the piece of this that

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01:01:27,853 --> 01:01:31,893
Speaker 5: I think stunned people. And that's the reason that the

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01:01:32,053 --> 01:01:36,413
Speaker 5: stock market just took an absolute beating. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 5: in videos shares fell of its market cap in a

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Speaker 5: day because of this new this new model.

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Speaker 2: It did make it a few bit of a back, right, So,

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Speaker 2: I mean I think it was that that as a company,

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Speaker 2: I think and Nvidia lost more value than any other

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Speaker 2: company in the history of American cheer markets. Well, you know,

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Speaker 2: in that in that twenty four hour period they had

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01:02:01,773 --> 01:02:02,933
Speaker 2: made a bit of it bad. It was a year.

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Speaker 2: It was a massive shock.

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Speaker 5: I'm just quickly looking as you typed. I mean it's

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Speaker 5: still it is still down on where it started the week, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 5: but has certainly like.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, it just moved.

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Speaker 5: I think it was so scary. Is it just moved

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01:02:17,333 --> 01:02:19,973
Speaker 5: the whole market, right, because there were all those flow

1134
01:02:20,013 --> 01:02:23,013
Speaker 5: on effects, because I think for the first time, the

1135
01:02:23,053 --> 01:02:26,253
Speaker 5: analysts have really started to think maybe this like maybe

1136
01:02:26,253 --> 01:02:29,813
Speaker 5: what we're doing isn't necessarily maybe the hype isn't there,

1137
01:02:29,933 --> 01:02:32,773
Speaker 5: or maybe what we've got isn't necessarily the best. And

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Speaker 5: it just just the ricochet where people were just really

1139
01:02:37,733 --> 01:02:41,173
Speaker 5: questioning the value of this company. Now that is the

1140
01:02:41,213 --> 01:02:44,133
Speaker 5: most valuable company I think in the world at.

1141
01:02:44,093 --> 01:02:46,773
Speaker 2: Least, was Yeah, it's going to be amazing, amazing to

1142
01:02:46,813 --> 01:02:48,893
Speaker 2: see how they kind of tech companies in the US

1143
01:02:49,013 --> 01:02:53,533
Speaker 2: respond as well. Now, let's talk robotaxis, because more robotaxis

1144
01:02:53,573 --> 01:02:55,253
Speaker 2: are headed to the streets. There are a few cities

1145
01:02:55,293 --> 01:02:57,213
Speaker 2: in the US where have become kind of a common

1146
01:02:57,773 --> 01:03:01,453
Speaker 2: thing to see. You know, when I was when I

1147
01:03:01,493 --> 01:03:03,693
Speaker 2: was in Arizona a few months ago, you know, there

1148
01:03:03,693 --> 01:03:06,373
Speaker 2: were these kind of robotaxes every week obviously instead of

1149
01:03:06,453 --> 01:03:08,613
Speaker 2: and value you see them all the time. But now

1150
01:03:08,693 --> 01:03:12,173
Speaker 2: Tesla is starting a robotaxi service in Austin, Texas.

1151
01:03:13,013 --> 01:03:16,613
Speaker 5: Austin, Texas right by their big HQ. Yeah, and that

1152
01:03:17,173 --> 01:03:19,373
Speaker 5: I mean, Elon says it's going to be in June.

1153
01:03:19,453 --> 01:03:21,893
Speaker 5: So let's wait and see if that actually happens. I've

1154
01:03:21,893 --> 01:03:25,733
Speaker 5: been talking about this fully autonomous driving for quite some time,

1155
01:03:25,733 --> 01:03:27,773
Speaker 5: and that's what this robo taxi service will be. There'll

1156
01:03:27,813 --> 01:03:29,413
Speaker 5: be no human driver behind the wheel.

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Speaker 10: It just turns up.

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Speaker 5: And how it's different from those other services like the

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01:03:33,133 --> 01:03:36,533
Speaker 5: ones you saw in Phoenix and SF like might have

1160
01:03:36,573 --> 01:03:39,253
Speaker 5: seen them under the name Weimo. They've got all these

1161
01:03:39,373 --> 01:03:42,613
Speaker 5: kind of instruments on and sort of around the car.

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01:03:42,773 --> 01:03:45,733
Speaker 5: They do like light our radar technology, and there's like

1163
01:03:45,973 --> 01:03:48,973
Speaker 5: things that spin and it looks very kind of sophisticated

1164
01:03:48,973 --> 01:03:53,373
Speaker 5: and you know future, Yeah, something from the future. But

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01:03:53,533 --> 01:03:56,093
Speaker 5: the Tesla from what we know, is just going to

1166
01:03:56,093 --> 01:04:00,053
Speaker 5: be using it's standard Tesla cameras that they've already been using,

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01:04:00,493 --> 01:04:03,653
Speaker 5: which is a really big step forward if that can

1168
01:04:03,693 --> 01:04:08,613
Speaker 5: actually go the distance. Yeah, because that technology is significantly cheaper,

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01:04:09,253 --> 01:04:12,653
Speaker 5: doesn't rely on expensive hardware. It's largely software based. It's

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Speaker 5: just literally using cameras. And they've been testing out their

1171
01:04:16,293 --> 01:04:19,693
Speaker 5: full drivers function in San Francisco with safety drivers behind

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Speaker 5: the wheel. And now it seems that and this is

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01:04:22,973 --> 01:04:25,613
Speaker 5: the thing, it seems that they will be just standard Teslas.

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Speaker 5: Elan's talked about something interesting over the years he's had

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Speaker 5: to stream of these robotaxis where you could buy your

1176
01:04:32,413 --> 01:04:35,653
Speaker 5: own Tesla and then contribute it back when you're not

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Speaker 5: using it to the Tesla network. So one would assume

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Speaker 5: that the Robotaxi service will be a step in that

1179
01:04:42,413 --> 01:04:45,093
Speaker 5: direction and they will just be standard Tesla's. But another

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Speaker 5: fun thing about the Tesla Jack and it's self driving.

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01:04:47,933 --> 01:04:51,213
Speaker 5: Did you know at the Tesla factory when a car

1182
01:04:51,333 --> 01:04:56,413
Speaker 5: is born, effectively, when it is completed, it drives itself

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01:04:56,493 --> 01:04:57,573
Speaker 5: to the loading dug.

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Speaker 3: Cute?

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01:05:00,293 --> 01:05:02,773
Speaker 2: So I mean that is cool. I suppose that can

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01:05:02,813 --> 01:05:05,613
Speaker 2: they just program it right? You would hope that for

1187
01:05:05,693 --> 01:05:08,373
Speaker 2: all of the self driving technology that have enough confidence

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01:05:08,573 --> 01:05:12,253
Speaker 2: in the technology that the can drive through the factory floor.

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01:05:12,373 --> 01:05:16,013
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, drives it drives it to the loading dock

1190
01:05:16,053 --> 01:05:18,293
Speaker 5: and gets gets put on a well, I don't know,

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01:05:18,293 --> 01:05:21,613
Speaker 5: I guess in a ship or yeah, truck or something

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01:05:21,653 --> 01:05:22,253
Speaker 5: and off it goes.

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Speaker 20: Yeah.

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01:05:23,413 --> 01:05:26,213
Speaker 2: Hey, were you were you a SIMS fan when you

1195
01:05:26,213 --> 01:05:31,933
Speaker 2: were a kid? Twenty five years since the SIMS were invented,

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Speaker 2: I was of saying, sorry to interrupt you, I was

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01:05:33,893 --> 01:05:36,053
Speaker 2: a SIMS fan. This is it's a computer game right now.

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Speaker 2: The SIMS were a computer game where you would sort

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Speaker 2: of simulate a life and you you'd run, you'd basically

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01:05:42,333 --> 01:05:44,053
Speaker 2: run these people and run their lives and build a

1201
01:05:44,093 --> 01:05:46,333
Speaker 2: house and they go to jobs. Yeah, whole families. And

1202
01:05:46,373 --> 01:05:48,613
Speaker 2: it was always weird because it was the first game

1203
01:05:48,653 --> 01:05:51,453
Speaker 2: where you just it wasn't even really a major purpose.

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01:05:51,573 --> 01:05:53,893
Speaker 2: It was just sort of you were just building someone

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01:05:53,893 --> 01:05:55,933
Speaker 2: else's life and.

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01:05:56,133 --> 01:05:57,293
Speaker 5: You were trying to make money?

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Speaker 2: Were you Maybe you were? I wasn't nearly Oh yes,

1208
01:06:02,093 --> 01:06:07,733
Speaker 2: right yeah, yeah. Anyway, it's back, it's back.

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01:06:07,893 --> 01:06:10,533
Speaker 5: It's it's been twenty five years, and to celebrate that,

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Speaker 5: they are re releasing SIMS and SIMS too, which I

1211
01:06:14,653 --> 01:06:16,413
Speaker 5: just think is kind of It's so fun. I mean

1212
01:06:16,413 --> 01:06:19,093
Speaker 5: that game, you see, that was a massive step forward

1213
01:06:19,093 --> 01:06:21,733
Speaker 5: when it was released. I remember thinking the graphics were

1214
01:06:21,773 --> 01:06:25,933
Speaker 5: just incredible. You know, you had the full design control

1215
01:06:25,973 --> 01:06:29,013
Speaker 5: of designing your house. They had all these expansion packs,

1216
01:06:29,013 --> 01:06:32,293
Speaker 5: do you remember those? Were you seend them on vacations

1217
01:06:32,333 --> 01:06:34,533
Speaker 5: and dates and all sorts of things, and it was

1218
01:06:34,573 --> 01:06:36,853
Speaker 5: sort of like the you know, you got your parents

1219
01:06:36,933 --> 01:06:38,373
Speaker 5: to buy you the SIMS and then you had to

1220
01:06:38,373 --> 01:06:40,333
Speaker 5: go and you know, trick them into seeing if they

1221
01:06:40,333 --> 01:06:42,893
Speaker 5: could buy you the expansion pack to do more and more.

1222
01:06:43,093 --> 01:06:44,133
Speaker 18: Well, yeah, it's back.

1223
01:06:44,853 --> 01:06:47,373
Speaker 5: If you own Windows ten or Windows eleven. You can

1224
01:06:47,413 --> 01:06:50,493
Speaker 5: download it from Electronic Arts or Steam which has which

1225
01:06:50,493 --> 01:06:52,933
Speaker 5: has lots and lots of games and things. No love

1226
01:06:52,973 --> 01:06:54,933
Speaker 5: for Matthews as yet though, because I'm just full of

1227
01:06:54,973 --> 01:06:56,933
Speaker 5: fun facts today. Did you know that there's a Sims

1228
01:06:56,973 --> 01:06:57,813
Speaker 5: movie in the works?

1229
01:06:58,013 --> 01:07:00,813
Speaker 2: Ah? I had no idea, right, Okay.

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Speaker 18: So I think I think kind of like the Barbie hype.

1231
01:07:03,133 --> 01:07:06,973
Speaker 2: Just yeah, mate, So not as money and ol ja Paul,

1232
01:07:06,973 --> 01:07:10,053
Speaker 2: there's money in nostalgia millennials.

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01:07:11,653 --> 01:07:14,173
Speaker 5: I still remember the cheat code in terms to type

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01:07:14,213 --> 01:07:15,573
Speaker 5: in to get unlimited money.

1235
01:07:16,013 --> 01:07:16,773
Speaker 2: Oh, what was it?

1236
01:07:16,853 --> 01:07:20,093
Speaker 5: Was? Rosebud. You typed in Rosebud, Rosebud Rose. I must

1237
01:07:20,133 --> 01:07:21,093
Speaker 5: have typed in Rosebud.

1238
01:07:21,533 --> 01:07:25,573
Speaker 2: I don't know how many rose bud? Ah?

1239
01:07:25,933 --> 01:07:26,053
Speaker 19: Is that?

1240
01:07:26,253 --> 01:07:30,293
Speaker 2: Am I right in thinking that that is the that's

1241
01:07:30,333 --> 01:07:34,053
Speaker 2: from Citizen Kane? Isn't it that? I don't know it's

1242
01:07:34,093 --> 01:07:37,333
Speaker 2: a Citizen Kane. Ah, Paul, You see you're thinking yourself

1243
01:07:37,373 --> 01:07:41,133
Speaker 2: as a as a as a storied and cultural man. Yes,

1244
01:07:43,213 --> 01:07:45,093
Speaker 2: for goodness sake, I'm not going to give it away.

1245
01:07:45,133 --> 01:07:48,773
Speaker 2: You've got to watch Citizen Kane. Are you serious even

1246
01:07:50,013 --> 01:07:52,653
Speaker 2: problem you haven't seen, Citizen Kane.

1247
01:07:52,453 --> 01:07:53,173
Speaker 5: I probably have.

1248
01:07:53,253 --> 01:07:55,733
Speaker 2: I just for goodness problem, I have get back to

1249
01:07:55,773 --> 01:07:59,293
Speaker 2: your screens for goodness. Okay, all right, hey, thanks, thanks

1250
01:07:59,293 --> 01:08:01,653
Speaker 2: so much for great did yet our textbit Paul Steinhouse,

1251
01:08:01,693 --> 01:08:04,053
Speaker 2: The school is back. If it's not already back, it's

1252
01:08:04,053 --> 01:08:06,573
Speaker 2: back this week. That means, of course, stationary is got

1253
01:08:06,573 --> 01:08:09,173
Speaker 2: to be sorted. That means lunchboxes, that backpacks has to

1254
01:08:09,173 --> 01:08:13,693
Speaker 2: be sorted. It also means, gulp, a return of head lice.

1255
01:08:15,653 --> 01:08:17,613
Speaker 2: Doctor Brian Betty's with us in a couple of minutes

1256
01:08:17,653 --> 01:08:21,493
Speaker 2: with his advice on avoiding head lice if you can

1257
01:08:21,693 --> 01:08:22,693
Speaker 2: seventeen to eleven.

1258
01:08:23,373 --> 01:08:25,613
Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with

1259
01:08:25,773 --> 01:08:28,893
Speaker 1: Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Day and vpw it on

1260
01:08:29,013 --> 01:08:32,493
Speaker 1: co dot z for high quality supplements used talks eNB.

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Speaker 2: First of February means school is back, which means, unfortunately

1262
01:08:36,493 --> 01:08:39,853
Speaker 2: for some families, knits are back as well. It's one

1263
01:08:39,893 --> 01:08:43,733
Speaker 2: of those really common but incredibly frustrating medical conditions, and

1264
01:08:43,773 --> 01:08:45,773
Speaker 2: doctor Brian Betty is with us this morning with his

1265
01:08:45,853 --> 01:08:48,533
Speaker 2: advice on how to treat it and hopefully how to

1266
01:08:48,573 --> 01:08:52,133
Speaker 2: avoid it as well. Morenedner Brian I'm morning Jack.

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Speaker 7: Nice to be here again.

1268
01:08:53,373 --> 01:08:56,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice to be speaking with you. Happy New Year. Yeah,

1269
01:08:57,013 --> 01:08:59,613
Speaker 2: what are headlights? And who gets them?

1270
01:09:00,013 --> 01:09:00,253
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1271
01:09:00,373 --> 01:09:04,853
Speaker 7: Look the tiny little insects that actually live on the scalp.

1272
01:09:05,093 --> 01:09:07,573
Speaker 7: And they live on the scalp because they actually live

1273
01:09:07,613 --> 01:09:09,973
Speaker 7: off blood. They suck blood out of the scalp. So

1274
01:09:10,013 --> 01:09:13,093
Speaker 7: these tiny little insects, and what they do is they

1275
01:09:13,173 --> 01:09:17,333
Speaker 7: lay eggs on strands of hair. So they lay these

1276
01:09:17,333 --> 01:09:20,333
Speaker 7: little eggs that over about a week start to hatch

1277
01:09:20,373 --> 01:09:22,493
Speaker 7: and you get more of these little little insects in

1278
01:09:22,533 --> 01:09:26,293
Speaker 7: the scalp, living off off off the scalp. And yeah,

1279
01:09:26,333 --> 01:09:30,573
Speaker 7: they cause these problems. They do not carry disease. So

1280
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Speaker 7: one of the misconceptions about them is, oh, my kid's

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Speaker 7: got you know, sort of set of head lies. Gosh,

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01:09:36,493 --> 01:09:39,213
Speaker 7: it's poor hygiene, that's what's caused it. That is not

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01:09:39,293 --> 01:09:42,413
Speaker 7: the case. Head lice cannot live outside of the scalp.

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01:09:42,533 --> 01:09:46,653
Speaker 7: They actually jump from from head to head basically, So

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01:09:46,853 --> 01:09:50,253
Speaker 7: think of kids in schools are often playing around rubbagene.

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01:09:50,293 --> 01:09:53,133
Speaker 7: They're there there, their scalps touch and if one child

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01:09:53,173 --> 01:09:56,573
Speaker 7: has head lice, they often jump to the other child

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01:09:56,613 --> 01:09:59,213
Speaker 7: and you start to get a spread occurring so nothing

1289
01:09:59,373 --> 01:10:03,813
Speaker 7: to do whatsoever with hygiene. Anyone can get head lice.

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01:10:04,133 --> 01:10:06,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and how do you know that some.

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01:10:07,773 --> 01:10:10,013
Speaker 7: Yeah, so look the thing you need to look out for,

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01:10:10,053 --> 01:10:13,693
Speaker 7: and often the first sign that happens it's intensely itching.

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01:10:13,773 --> 01:10:16,213
Speaker 7: So what you'll notice is your child starting to scratch

1294
01:10:16,253 --> 01:10:19,093
Speaker 7: at their head. Now, if they don't do that normally,

1295
01:10:19,133 --> 01:10:21,453
Speaker 7: you'd need to start to think, well, gosh, is this

1296
01:10:21,533 --> 01:10:25,693
Speaker 7: head lice. So the scratching can cause little scort saws

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01:10:25,733 --> 01:10:28,533
Speaker 7: on the scalp. You can get these little red areas

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01:10:28,533 --> 01:10:30,253
Speaker 7: on the scalp that you start to notice. But if

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01:10:30,293 --> 01:10:32,733
Speaker 7: you look closely at the base of the hair, you'll

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01:10:32,733 --> 01:10:36,413
Speaker 7: often see the little headlights, like little insects of the

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01:10:36,453 --> 01:10:40,373
Speaker 7: little legs. Or the other giveaway is you find these

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01:10:40,413 --> 01:10:44,053
Speaker 7: little little what looked like grains of sand stuck to

1303
01:10:44,093 --> 01:10:46,653
Speaker 7: the strands of hair, and those are the eggs that

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01:10:46,653 --> 01:10:49,573
Speaker 7: they've laid. And typically you'll find those behind the ears

1305
01:10:50,013 --> 01:10:52,013
Speaker 7: or around the back of the neck. And it's very

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01:10:52,093 --> 01:10:55,173
Speaker 7: very distinctive when you see them, and that's a really

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01:10:55,293 --> 01:10:59,453
Speaker 7: really core indicator that you know, knits, cooties or headlights

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01:10:59,533 --> 01:11:00,333
Speaker 7: is part of the issue.

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01:11:00,533 --> 01:11:01,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you do about them?

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01:11:02,733 --> 01:11:05,053
Speaker 7: Look, there's really two things and you've got to separate

1311
01:11:05,053 --> 01:11:07,453
Speaker 7: out the two problems. One you've got to kill the

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01:11:07,573 --> 01:11:11,373
Speaker 7: live adult insects because if you don't, they keep laying eggs.

1313
01:11:11,453 --> 01:11:14,013
Speaker 7: So that's really really important. So to do that, we

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01:11:14,133 --> 01:11:18,213
Speaker 7: use a shampoo dimethic comb. You use it twice a week,

1315
01:11:18,413 --> 01:11:20,933
Speaker 7: once then seven days later because they tend to hatch

1316
01:11:20,973 --> 01:11:23,933
Speaker 7: over a seven day period. Now, the important thing about

1317
01:11:23,933 --> 01:11:27,453
Speaker 7: dimethic cone, it is not an insecticide. What it actually

1318
01:11:27,493 --> 01:11:29,893
Speaker 7: does is just suffocate the little life, so it's very

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01:11:29,973 --> 01:11:32,253
Speaker 7: safe to use with your child. So number one, you've

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01:11:32,253 --> 01:11:34,773
Speaker 7: got to kill the insects, so that's really really important.

1321
01:11:35,053 --> 01:11:37,133
Speaker 7: But you've got to get rid of the eggs because

1322
01:11:37,173 --> 01:11:40,333
Speaker 7: if you don't, they will continue to hatch and continue

1323
01:11:40,333 --> 01:11:42,173
Speaker 7: to cause a problem. Now, to get rid of the eggs,

1324
01:11:42,213 --> 01:11:45,093
Speaker 7: you've got to use what's called a knit comb. You

1325
01:11:45,133 --> 01:11:48,493
Speaker 7: often get those from the chemist, very fine little metal combs,

1326
01:11:49,053 --> 01:11:52,053
Speaker 7: and you wet comb the hair. So what you do

1327
01:11:52,133 --> 01:11:54,693
Speaker 7: is put in some conditioner, cheap conditioner, anything will do,

1328
01:11:55,493 --> 01:11:58,293
Speaker 7: keep their hair wet and then start to comb out

1329
01:11:58,333 --> 01:12:01,173
Speaker 7: the hair. Now, the the thing about that is you've

1330
01:12:01,173 --> 01:12:03,373
Speaker 7: got to be really pedantic about it and you've got

1331
01:12:03,373 --> 01:12:06,253
Speaker 7: to do it every day for about one to two

1332
01:12:06,413 --> 01:12:08,453
Speaker 7: weeks because you've got to get rid of all those

1333
01:12:08,493 --> 01:12:11,813
Speaker 7: little little eggs that are stuck to the histrands of here.

1334
01:12:11,853 --> 01:12:13,933
Speaker 7: And so you keep doing it till you see no

1335
01:12:14,013 --> 01:12:17,133
Speaker 7: more eggs coming out. So look, yeah, bit of a mission,

1336
01:12:17,853 --> 01:12:20,093
Speaker 7: but you've got to do those two things are two

1337
01:12:20,093 --> 01:12:22,013
Speaker 7: separate issues, and you've got to approach it that way.

1338
01:12:22,453 --> 01:12:24,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those things too, right, If one

1339
01:12:24,693 --> 01:12:26,693
Speaker 2: child in the family has it, you've got to check everyone.

1340
01:12:27,973 --> 01:12:30,733
Speaker 7: You absolutely have to. So you have to assume that

1341
01:12:30,733 --> 01:12:32,653
Speaker 7: if one child's got it, it may have jumped to

1342
01:12:32,653 --> 01:12:36,413
Speaker 7: the other. So generally we recommend that if we're treating

1343
01:12:36,453 --> 01:12:40,413
Speaker 7: one child, then the other children in the family actually

1344
01:12:40,493 --> 01:12:42,933
Speaker 7: or all the other members of the family treat with

1345
01:12:43,093 --> 01:12:45,653
Speaker 7: this shampoo aka twice a week as well, just to

1346
01:12:45,653 --> 01:12:47,813
Speaker 7: make sure there's no live ones that have jumped to

1347
01:12:47,853 --> 01:12:51,253
Speaker 7: the other child. Really important to tell your school if

1348
01:12:51,293 --> 01:12:53,653
Speaker 7: there's an outbreak, so they can warn other parents to

1349
01:12:53,733 --> 01:12:56,293
Speaker 7: look out for it, because again that tends to spread

1350
01:12:56,293 --> 01:12:59,613
Speaker 7: through schools. You tend to get outbreaks very difficult to

1351
01:12:59,613 --> 01:13:02,253
Speaker 7: prevent because these live little bugs just jump from one

1352
01:13:02,333 --> 01:13:04,373
Speaker 7: to the other and kids are always playing around together.

1353
01:13:05,133 --> 01:13:06,933
Speaker 7: And look, one thing I do need to say is

1354
01:13:07,013 --> 01:13:10,333
Speaker 7: sometimes you know old wives tale that you can use

1355
01:13:10,413 --> 01:13:13,973
Speaker 7: kerosene or fly spray or anything like that, just don't.

1356
01:13:14,173 --> 01:13:17,613
Speaker 7: It's dangerous not to do it. Just just just go

1357
01:13:17,733 --> 01:13:22,693
Speaker 7: with the shampoo which suffocates them. And pedantic knit combing

1358
01:13:22,853 --> 01:13:23,413
Speaker 7: the way to go.

1359
01:13:24,053 --> 01:13:26,693
Speaker 2: If you were here, or your scalp is itching right now,

1360
01:13:26,813 --> 01:13:29,613
Speaker 2: don't worry. You don't have knits. That's just what happens

1361
01:13:29,653 --> 01:13:33,013
Speaker 2: when you have these comments inevitable, right and mom start

1362
01:13:33,053 --> 01:13:33,653
Speaker 2: doing it, and I'm like.

1363
01:13:35,613 --> 01:13:38,573
Speaker 21: The thousands people out there stretching exactly exactly.

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01:13:39,173 --> 01:13:42,613
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got one really disgusting tip. This is really disgusting.

1365
01:13:42,653 --> 01:13:44,773
Speaker 2: So I'm just wondering, if you haven't had your breakfast

1366
01:13:44,773 --> 01:13:48,013
Speaker 2: just yet, just take a deep intake of breath. So,

1367
01:13:48,973 --> 01:13:51,013
Speaker 2: being one of four, when we were kids and there

1368
01:13:51,053 --> 01:13:53,773
Speaker 2: would be knit outbreaks in the tame household, that was

1369
01:13:53,853 --> 01:13:56,653
Speaker 2: usually a bit of a mission getting everyone sorted. And

1370
01:13:57,093 --> 01:13:58,973
Speaker 2: Dad used to do the wet combing, and we'd get

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01:13:58,973 --> 01:14:01,413
Speaker 2: the big knits out with the wet comb, you know,

1372
01:14:02,133 --> 01:14:04,053
Speaker 2: and he put them down on the table and you

1373
01:14:04,133 --> 01:14:06,133
Speaker 2: have a you'd have a knit there and My job

1374
01:14:06,213 --> 01:14:10,573
Speaker 2: was use the back of a dessert spoon to crush them,

1375
01:14:11,453 --> 01:14:13,293
Speaker 2: crush them, and that's how you know. They did.

1376
01:14:14,573 --> 01:14:16,493
Speaker 7: Very satisfying thing to do, though, Jack.

1377
01:14:16,533 --> 01:14:23,693
Speaker 2: Very satisfying, very effective, extremely disgusting. So my apologies. Hey,

1378
01:14:23,733 --> 01:14:26,453
Speaker 2: thank you so much. Brian really appreciate that the advice,

1379
01:14:26,493 --> 01:14:28,693
Speaker 2: and we'll make sure it's available online as well. Right now,

1380
01:14:28,693 --> 01:14:30,173
Speaker 2: it's nine minutes to eleven.

1381
01:14:30,573 --> 01:14:34,253
Speaker 1: One guning with still sharp. Get free accessories on selected

1382
01:14:34,293 --> 01:14:34,973
Speaker 1: still tools.

1383
01:14:35,533 --> 01:14:38,493
Speaker 2: Climb passes our man in the garden this morning, counter route.

1384
01:14:39,413 --> 01:14:42,253
Speaker 18: Thank you, Jack. I just want to take on about

1385
01:14:42,293 --> 01:14:45,853
Speaker 18: your first child being born at the time when you're busy.

1386
01:14:46,133 --> 01:14:48,573
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, because my.

1387
01:14:48,973 --> 01:14:52,053
Speaker 18: Son here in New Zealand was born in nineteen eighty

1388
01:14:52,093 --> 01:14:55,773
Speaker 18: seven on the afternoon after I did an interview, my

1389
01:14:55,933 --> 01:14:58,013
Speaker 18: very first interview on new storgs. He'd be with a

1390
01:14:58,013 --> 01:14:59,253
Speaker 18: guy called Lacon Smith.

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01:14:59,573 --> 01:15:00,173
Speaker 10: Wow.

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01:15:00,533 --> 01:15:01,213
Speaker 2: Is that right?

1393
01:15:02,213 --> 01:15:05,533
Speaker 18: That was before he became an one of those nonsense

1394
01:15:05,693 --> 01:15:11,333
Speaker 18: haters of of climate change. Anyway, it was hilarious, so

1395
01:15:11,613 --> 01:15:14,493
Speaker 18: I left, I left the studio, went to the hospital

1396
01:15:14,653 --> 01:15:19,133
Speaker 18: and there was Tristan Wow being born. Yeah, so that

1397
01:15:19,413 --> 01:15:20,733
Speaker 18: you can fit it in.

1398
01:15:20,653 --> 01:15:24,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well yes, no, yeah, trust me as much

1399
01:15:24,293 --> 01:15:26,413
Speaker 2: as I love my work that that will be the

1400
01:15:26,413 --> 01:15:29,173
Speaker 2: priority whenever it does happen. So the phone is very

1401
01:15:29,213 --> 01:15:32,213
Speaker 2: much notifications are on at the moment, and my wife

1402
01:15:32,213 --> 01:15:34,013
Speaker 2: can be sure that I won't be screening her calls

1403
01:15:34,053 --> 01:15:39,413
Speaker 2: anytime soon, So that's good. It's just so yeah. Anyway,

1404
01:15:39,613 --> 01:15:42,053
Speaker 2: we're turning our attention from here lights and it's two

1405
01:15:42,213 --> 01:15:44,693
Speaker 2: mites in the garden to mighty mites in the garden

1406
01:15:44,733 --> 01:15:46,493
Speaker 2: this morning. We're really doing our very best to make

1407
01:15:46,533 --> 01:15:48,093
Speaker 2: sure that no one is listening to the show.

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01:15:50,733 --> 01:15:53,733
Speaker 18: I will always get hessels from people, say, what did

1409
01:15:53,773 --> 01:15:56,853
Speaker 18: you talk about follicorn mice for? Why did you write

1410
01:15:56,853 --> 01:16:00,933
Speaker 18: that every person has eye lashes with foll mid Oh yeah,

1411
01:16:01,093 --> 01:16:03,373
Speaker 18: it's really I do this trick with kids. They love

1412
01:16:03,413 --> 01:16:06,133
Speaker 18: it though, anyway. But the my group is is a

1413
01:16:06,373 --> 01:16:07,933
Speaker 18: but this is the point that my group is a

1414
01:16:07,973 --> 01:16:10,573
Speaker 18: really weird group. And we've got in this case spider mites.

1415
01:16:10,653 --> 01:16:12,253
Speaker 18: So I discovered them a couple of weeks ago and

1416
01:16:12,293 --> 01:16:15,373
Speaker 18: I had to spray them this done. They are absolutely

1417
01:16:15,693 --> 01:16:18,613
Speaker 18: because it's warm and dry. These are the pest you've

1418
01:16:18,613 --> 01:16:21,253
Speaker 18: got to be careful with in glasshouses and tunnel houses,

1419
01:16:21,373 --> 01:16:25,813
Speaker 18: but also outside in your garden beans and things like that,

1420
01:16:26,133 --> 01:16:30,013
Speaker 18: and in our case in frenchy pany. So yeah, what

1421
01:16:30,173 --> 01:16:33,573
Speaker 18: does it look like. Well, it's all in the stuff online.

1422
01:16:33,653 --> 01:16:35,973
Speaker 18: But I'll tell you what. If it looks like an

1423
01:16:36,013 --> 01:16:42,133
Speaker 18: incredibly dense website with the tiniest millions of creatures walking

1424
01:16:42,173 --> 01:16:47,293
Speaker 18: through that website, it's probably those spotted spidermites. So what

1425
01:16:47,453 --> 01:16:50,173
Speaker 18: you do, Yeah, well, there's not much you can do

1426
01:16:50,213 --> 01:16:54,133
Speaker 18: about from basically spraying depends on what you've got the

1427
01:16:54,253 --> 01:16:57,733
Speaker 18: things on. If it's something like tomatoes, or if it's

1428
01:16:57,773 --> 01:17:02,853
Speaker 18: something like edibles, you can't use any made nasty chemicals,

1429
01:17:02,893 --> 01:17:06,773
Speaker 18: of course, But what you can use is mean oil,

1430
01:17:06,973 --> 01:17:10,373
Speaker 18: and that's what I would recommend. Other side of the leaves,

1431
01:17:10,613 --> 01:17:13,293
Speaker 18: top side of the leaves, left and right side of

1432
01:17:13,333 --> 01:17:17,253
Speaker 18: the leaves, the actual web itself. And if you do

1433
01:17:17,333 --> 01:17:22,253
Speaker 18: that two, three, four times five days apart, you can

1434
01:17:22,293 --> 01:17:24,693
Speaker 18: get on top of it. I just mentioned it.

1435
01:17:24,893 --> 01:17:28,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good, Okay, Hey, thank you. You'll be pleased

1436
01:17:28,013 --> 01:17:31,213
Speaker 2: to know that. I think our garden has set an

1437
01:17:31,253 --> 01:17:34,093
Speaker 2: all time record for the number of passion vine hoppers

1438
01:17:34,133 --> 01:17:37,213
Speaker 2: and fluffy bones. I just, I mean, just while we're

1439
01:17:37,213 --> 01:17:42,773
Speaker 2: speaking of insect control, Oh my goodness. Yeah, unbelievable the summer, Rude, unbelievable.

1440
01:17:42,813 --> 01:17:45,573
Speaker 2: How many I've got? So maybe I can hit you

1441
01:17:45,653 --> 01:17:47,733
Speaker 2: up again about that sometime soon. I know you've always

1442
01:17:47,733 --> 01:17:49,973
Speaker 2: got tips on trying to control them. Thank you very much, sir,

1443
01:17:50,653 --> 01:17:52,813
Speaker 2: Rude climb past in the garden and photos of those

1444
01:17:52,853 --> 01:17:56,453
Speaker 2: incredible intricate webs are up on the News Talks he'd

1445
01:17:56,453 --> 01:17:58,973
Speaker 2: be website so for everything from our show, News Talks,

1446
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1447
01:18:02,613 --> 01:18:04,973
Speaker 2: new music from Young Franco, a book from Elis Phenie.

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Speaker 2: I've got to got to recommend. News is next though

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Speaker 2: it's almost eleven o'clock is Saturday morning. I'm Jack Tam

1450
01:18:09,933 --> 01:18:11,733
Speaker 2: and this is news Talks. He'd be.

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01:18:14,133 --> 01:18:17,893
Speaker 1: Saturday mornings with Jack Day, keeping the conversation going through

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01:18:17,893 --> 01:18:21,093
Speaker 1: the weekend with bpure dot co dot insad for high

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Speaker 1: quality supplements News Talks.

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Speaker 3: The'd be.

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01:18:45,613 --> 01:18:47,973
Speaker 2: Ah to Mondy here, good morning. If you're just sending

1456
01:18:48,013 --> 01:18:50,613
Speaker 2: on the radio, I'm Jack Tame with you on News Talks.

1457
01:18:50,613 --> 01:18:53,893
Speaker 2: He'd be this Saturday through the midday. Things are going

1458
01:18:53,893 --> 01:18:58,013
Speaker 2: from bad to worse for anyone concerned about the Six

1459
01:18:58,133 --> 01:19:02,933
Speaker 2: Nations and Warren Gatland's Wales team. They've just conceded another try,

1460
01:19:03,773 --> 01:19:07,133
Speaker 2: so they're now down forty three to Nils against France

1461
01:19:07,293 --> 01:19:10,453
Speaker 2: with a couple of minutes left in that game. But yeah,

1462
01:19:10,533 --> 01:19:14,413
Speaker 2: things aren't looking great. Not voting terribly well for Warren

1463
01:19:14,453 --> 01:19:16,573
Speaker 2: Gatland at the moment. So I went to David Sadaris

1464
01:19:16,613 --> 01:19:18,693
Speaker 2: last night. If you don't know David Sadaris, he is,

1465
01:19:19,213 --> 01:19:20,853
Speaker 2: I mean, where have you been? What do you read?

1466
01:19:21,093 --> 01:19:24,213
Speaker 2: He is just it's kind of hard to describe him.

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01:19:24,253 --> 01:19:30,773
Speaker 2: He's he's an irreverent American slash British but American writer,

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01:19:32,573 --> 01:19:38,333
Speaker 2: radio contributor, all round humorist. He's just he's he's an

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01:19:38,373 --> 01:19:41,373
Speaker 2: extraordinary writer, like a New York Times bestseller however many

1470
01:19:41,413 --> 01:19:46,573
Speaker 2: gazillion times over. And he writes these personal essays that

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01:19:46,613 --> 01:19:53,853
Speaker 2: are kind of irreverent, observational, little vignettes on life. And

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01:19:53,893 --> 01:19:57,533
Speaker 2: there's something that is just brilliantly funny about David sadaras.

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01:19:57,533 --> 01:19:59,253
Speaker 2: So I was really really excited to go and see

1474
01:19:59,333 --> 01:20:01,933
Speaker 2: him last night Auklands town Hall. And he was reading

1475
01:20:01,973 --> 01:20:04,013
Speaker 2: some of his work and kind of reading some of

1476
01:20:04,053 --> 01:20:07,093
Speaker 2: his diary entries. But this really interesting the thing happened

1477
01:20:07,093 --> 01:20:09,013
Speaker 2: when I was there. He was talking a little bit

1478
01:20:09,053 --> 01:20:12,253
Speaker 2: about his process. And anyone who knows David Sadaris knows

1479
01:20:12,253 --> 01:20:18,293
Speaker 2: that his stories sort of they come across as effortlessly easy.

1480
01:20:18,653 --> 01:20:20,813
Speaker 2: They're just like the stories that you would tell around

1481
01:20:20,853 --> 01:20:23,173
Speaker 2: at dinner table, or you would talk about your weekend

1482
01:20:23,253 --> 01:20:25,733
Speaker 2: away or something like that. And anyway, he was talking

1483
01:20:25,733 --> 01:20:28,093
Speaker 2: about his process, and he explained that when he's touring

1484
01:20:28,093 --> 01:20:30,613
Speaker 2: the world and he's reading his pieces, often what he

1485
01:20:30,653 --> 01:20:32,853
Speaker 2: does is he goes and he reads a piece that

1486
01:20:32,893 --> 01:20:37,293
Speaker 2: he's written, and he considers the audience reaction. He listens

1487
01:20:37,293 --> 01:20:40,173
Speaker 2: to the audience laughter, and then as soon as he's

1488
01:20:40,213 --> 01:20:42,573
Speaker 2: finished performing, and as soon as he's finished all of

1489
01:20:42,573 --> 01:20:44,573
Speaker 2: his book signings and things, he goes back to his

1490
01:20:44,613 --> 01:20:49,853
Speaker 2: hotel room and he writes the piece again, or rewrites

1491
01:20:49,893 --> 01:20:53,013
Speaker 2: the piece again, or edits the piece again. And he

1492
01:20:53,053 --> 01:20:55,653
Speaker 2: said that sometimes he'll do it twenty times. So he'll

1493
01:20:55,693 --> 01:20:58,533
Speaker 2: read the same piece, and as he's reading it to

1494
01:20:58,573 --> 01:21:01,653
Speaker 2: an audience, he'll wait for their reactions and he'll write

1495
01:21:01,893 --> 01:21:04,453
Speaker 2: little notes on his papers, and they'll go back to

1496
01:21:04,493 --> 01:21:07,213
Speaker 2: his hotel room and he'll edit it. Heel word here,

1497
01:21:07,373 --> 01:21:10,413
Speaker 2: or have changed the structure of a sentence there, and

1498
01:21:10,453 --> 01:21:12,773
Speaker 2: the thing that I just found really amazing about that

1499
01:21:12,973 --> 01:21:16,533
Speaker 2: is when you read his stories, you get no sense

1500
01:21:16,613 --> 01:21:19,373
Speaker 2: that it's been agonized over. You get no sense that

1501
01:21:19,453 --> 01:21:23,173
Speaker 2: it's something that has been like excruciatingly difficult. But it's

1502
01:21:23,173 --> 01:21:25,373
Speaker 2: one of those things that shows you kind of genius

1503
01:21:25,413 --> 01:21:30,213
Speaker 2: takes work like he's really had to, He's really had

1504
01:21:30,253 --> 01:21:33,773
Speaker 2: to work at his craft to shape the stories into

1505
01:21:33,813 --> 01:21:37,373
Speaker 2: the brilliant little vignettes and essays that they are. So yeah,

1506
01:21:37,413 --> 01:21:39,693
Speaker 2: it was an amazing evening. And you know, he was

1507
01:21:39,693 --> 01:21:41,653
Speaker 2: a full crowd at the Auckland Town Hall last night,

1508
01:21:41,693 --> 01:21:44,013
Speaker 2: which comes as no great surprise but a real privilege

1509
01:21:44,013 --> 01:21:46,213
Speaker 2: to be there for David Sedaris. And I love it

1510
01:21:46,253 --> 01:21:48,373
Speaker 2: when you you know, you have a writer like that

1511
01:21:48,533 --> 01:21:50,613
Speaker 2: or an artist that you love, and you get a

1512
01:21:50,613 --> 01:21:53,133
Speaker 2: bit of an insight into their creative process and it

1513
01:21:53,213 --> 01:21:57,293
Speaker 2: surprises you and you realize that, actually, you know, he's

1514
01:21:57,293 --> 01:21:59,533
Speaker 2: almost the sort of writer you could think, well, well

1515
01:21:59,693 --> 01:22:01,813
Speaker 2: I could write a story like that, How hard can

1516
01:22:01,853 --> 01:22:05,533
Speaker 2: it really be? And then you realize, actually, it's, yeah,

1517
01:22:05,613 --> 01:22:09,133
Speaker 2: it's genius, that's how hard it is. Anyway, a real

1518
01:22:09,173 --> 01:22:11,173
Speaker 2: pleasure to be there tonight. If you are looking for

1519
01:22:11,213 --> 01:22:13,053
Speaker 2: a good new read before midday today, we're going to

1520
01:22:13,053 --> 01:22:16,213
Speaker 2: recommend a new book from Alie Feeni. Speaking of New

1521
01:22:16,293 --> 01:22:19,053
Speaker 2: York Times best sellers, she's been a best seller who

1522
01:22:19,053 --> 01:22:20,813
Speaker 2: even many times over as well, so she's got a

1523
01:22:20,813 --> 01:22:22,693
Speaker 2: brand new read. I'm going to recommend you right now.

1524
01:22:22,693 --> 01:22:26,253
Speaker 2: Though it is eleven minutes past eleven, Jack tea time

1525
01:22:26,293 --> 01:22:29,053
Speaker 2: to catch up with kind of course, psychologist Doogle Sutherland

1526
01:22:29,093 --> 01:22:32,413
Speaker 2: from Umbrella Wellbeing more than a Doogle cure.

1527
01:22:32,693 --> 01:22:35,573
Speaker 15: Jack, Hey, jealous of you going to see David Sedaris

1528
01:22:35,693 --> 01:22:38,813
Speaker 15: last night. That would have been a great experience.

1529
01:22:39,253 --> 01:22:40,933
Speaker 6: I love I love as I love his box.

1530
01:22:41,213 --> 01:22:43,653
Speaker 15: Yeah, hilariously funny, aren't.

1531
01:22:43,413 --> 01:22:46,293
Speaker 2: They They're so funny. They're so funny and so but

1532
01:22:46,733 --> 01:22:49,013
Speaker 2: he does it. He's I reckon he's the all time

1533
01:22:49,093 --> 01:22:51,613
Speaker 2: master of the tangent. That's what I reckon he is.

1534
01:22:51,893 --> 01:22:54,493
Speaker 2: You know, he like he starts out a story on

1535
01:22:54,493 --> 01:22:58,453
Speaker 2: one subject, goes off on a wild tangent, and the

1536
01:22:58,493 --> 01:23:02,013
Speaker 2: tangent might last five thousand words, and then brings it

1537
01:23:02,053 --> 01:23:04,253
Speaker 2: back round again at the end, and it's just it's

1538
01:23:04,293 --> 01:23:07,133
Speaker 2: just brilliantly clever. Yeah, he's a credibly cly man.

1539
01:23:07,173 --> 01:23:09,773
Speaker 15: I'm amazed about how one person can have so many

1540
01:23:09,813 --> 01:23:12,413
Speaker 15: hilarious things that have happened their lives.

1541
01:23:12,453 --> 01:23:14,813
Speaker 2: It was a really good thing. Last night, someone asked him,

1542
01:23:14,853 --> 01:23:17,013
Speaker 2: because he took questions from the audience, someone said to him,

1543
01:23:17,053 --> 01:23:19,733
Speaker 2: do you think that you have an interesting life, like

1544
01:23:19,773 --> 01:23:23,133
Speaker 2: an abnormally interesting life, or do you think that your

1545
01:23:23,173 --> 01:23:24,973
Speaker 2: life is And he said, no, no, it's just that

1546
01:23:25,053 --> 01:23:28,933
Speaker 2: I look for the kind of the funny. You know,

1547
01:23:29,213 --> 01:23:31,893
Speaker 2: He's like an observational comedian. He looks for the funny

1548
01:23:31,933 --> 01:23:33,933
Speaker 2: things in everyday life and is able to kind of

1549
01:23:33,933 --> 01:23:36,533
Speaker 2: shake them in a way that is really relatable but

1550
01:23:36,613 --> 01:23:41,773
Speaker 2: also just so funny. Yeah, yeah, but love Sorry.

1551
01:23:41,893 --> 01:23:44,693
Speaker 15: Apparently he loves people telling him dirty jokes when they're

1552
01:23:44,693 --> 01:23:46,613
Speaker 15: when they're lining up for their books signed. If you

1553
01:23:46,653 --> 01:23:48,773
Speaker 15: can tell him the worst terrible joke you can you

1554
01:23:48,773 --> 01:23:49,413
Speaker 15: can think.

1555
01:23:49,253 --> 01:23:50,533
Speaker 3: Of, he loves it.

1556
01:23:50,613 --> 01:23:53,093
Speaker 2: Well, he actually shared some of those last night, so

1557
01:23:53,133 --> 01:23:57,733
Speaker 2: I won't be repeating them on air right now. No, no, exactly. Yeah, yeah,

1558
01:23:57,773 --> 01:23:59,213
Speaker 2: but it was that funny thing, you know, because when

1559
01:23:59,253 --> 01:24:00,773
Speaker 2: I read his books, I'm always like, oh, it just

1560
01:24:00,813 --> 01:24:03,573
Speaker 2: seems so it's so easy, so the story that the

1561
01:24:03,573 --> 01:24:07,093
Speaker 2: storytelling is so relaxed, and yet it's actually can you

1562
01:24:07,133 --> 01:24:10,453
Speaker 2: know how ever many iterations to get each piece into

1563
01:24:10,773 --> 01:24:12,573
Speaker 2: that form, which I just I think it's Yeah, I

1564
01:24:12,573 --> 01:24:17,933
Speaker 2: think it's wonderful. Hey, anyway, you have spired a very

1565
01:24:17,973 --> 01:24:20,573
Speaker 2: interesting survey. It's come across your desk, looking at a

1566
01:24:20,653 --> 01:24:23,933
Speaker 2: kind of global mental health crisis and how it's impacting workplaces.

1567
01:24:23,973 --> 01:24:26,693
Speaker 2: Because the thing is, we've talked about wellbeing in the

1568
01:24:26,733 --> 01:24:30,733
Speaker 2: workplace for many years now, but even though for many

1569
01:24:30,773 --> 01:24:34,853
Speaker 2: people last year was an especially stressful year, certainly when

1570
01:24:34,853 --> 01:24:37,653
Speaker 2: it comes to kind of economic conditions, a lot of

1571
01:24:37,733 --> 01:24:41,893
Speaker 2: workplaces have been pulling back a bit on wellbeing measures.

1572
01:24:41,933 --> 01:24:44,373
Speaker 21: A yeah, they have.

1573
01:24:45,653 --> 01:24:47,533
Speaker 15: It's ironic in a way, isn't it, Because I think

1574
01:24:47,573 --> 01:24:50,573
Speaker 15: everybody kind of universally acknowledges that, you know, we want

1575
01:24:50,613 --> 01:24:52,813
Speaker 15: to refund on twenty twenty four and don't want to

1576
01:24:52,813 --> 01:24:55,333
Speaker 15: go through that again. And it was terrible for you know,

1577
01:24:55,373 --> 01:24:58,533
Speaker 15: people losing their jobs or worrying about losing their jobs.

1578
01:24:58,533 --> 01:25:01,613
Speaker 15: And yet at the same time, lots of organizations and

1579
01:25:01,653 --> 01:25:04,493
Speaker 15: an effort to save money sorts, oh, we'll cut back

1580
01:25:04,533 --> 01:25:06,893
Speaker 15: on the what can we do with out what are

1581
01:25:06,893 --> 01:25:09,293
Speaker 15: the what do we see as the as the nice

1582
01:25:09,493 --> 01:25:11,733
Speaker 15: nice to hand, And so they cut.

1583
01:25:11,493 --> 01:25:11,733
Speaker 4: Back on.

1584
01:25:14,053 --> 01:25:17,053
Speaker 15: And I'm veering away from using the term well being

1585
01:25:17,053 --> 01:25:19,653
Speaker 15: nowadays because I think it's becoming a bit tainted. But

1586
01:25:20,453 --> 01:25:23,533
Speaker 15: if you think about it, they're veering away from pushing

1587
01:25:23,533 --> 01:25:29,373
Speaker 15: away a little bit from providing support for people's mental health.

1588
01:25:30,013 --> 01:25:31,773
Speaker 15: I think, if we can put it that bluntly, and

1589
01:25:31,813 --> 01:25:35,213
Speaker 15: that's and I think that's exactly the opposite thing that

1590
01:25:35,253 --> 01:25:39,053
Speaker 15: they should be doing, which links back into that survey

1591
01:25:39,133 --> 01:25:41,893
Speaker 15: that I that I spied. It came out just before Christmas,

1592
01:25:41,893 --> 01:25:43,893
Speaker 15: so one of those ones that you know, I kind

1593
01:25:43,893 --> 01:25:45,453
Speaker 15: of read it and went, oh, I tuck that away

1594
01:25:45,853 --> 01:25:46,733
Speaker 15: and come back to it.

1595
01:25:46,773 --> 01:25:48,413
Speaker 6: But it was it was from.

1596
01:25:48,293 --> 01:25:52,173
Speaker 15: Deloitte's in the UK, and they looked at they particularly

1597
01:25:52,173 --> 01:25:57,133
Speaker 15: looking at the financial sector, and they found that, you know,

1598
01:25:57,293 --> 01:26:00,533
Speaker 15: high rates of burnout in the financial sector. And they

1599
01:26:00,613 --> 01:26:04,453
Speaker 15: priced that at a cost of about ten thousand dollars

1600
01:26:04,493 --> 01:26:07,893
Speaker 15: per person per year. And you think about that in

1601
01:26:08,053 --> 01:26:10,733
Speaker 15: terms of, you know, if we're thinking about productivity, you know,

1602
01:26:10,773 --> 01:26:15,213
Speaker 15: we're thinking about making sure that we are really wanting

1603
01:26:15,293 --> 01:26:18,173
Speaker 15: to get our economy growing, then you think about the

1604
01:26:18,173 --> 01:26:22,333
Speaker 15: cost of ten thousand dollars per person per year across

1605
01:26:22,333 --> 01:26:27,013
Speaker 15: our economy. It's staggering. Really, I think it has a

1606
01:26:27,053 --> 01:26:29,333
Speaker 15: real effect on how much we produced as a country.

1607
01:26:29,373 --> 01:26:34,013
Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing. It's easy from an employer's perspective,

1608
01:26:34,093 --> 01:26:36,613
Speaker 2: right to think, well, you know, support for mental health

1609
01:26:36,613 --> 01:26:39,253
Speaker 2: and stuff is a nice to have, but actually, if

1610
01:26:39,293 --> 01:26:42,213
Speaker 2: your work, like you know, so many businesses say that

1611
01:26:42,253 --> 01:26:45,413
Speaker 2: people is our number one is a number one asset, right,

1612
01:26:45,533 --> 01:26:47,813
Speaker 2: but if your people are not in a good place,

1613
01:26:47,973 --> 01:26:51,373
Speaker 2: it ends up costing the business. It effects a business's bottom.

1614
01:26:51,093 --> 01:26:56,093
Speaker 15: Line absolutely if you think about some of those if

1615
01:26:56,093 --> 01:27:00,213
Speaker 15: you delve into some of those symptoms of burnout, things

1616
01:27:00,333 --> 01:27:03,413
Speaker 15: like you know, the core symptoms of burnout are exhaustion,

1617
01:27:04,173 --> 01:27:09,693
Speaker 15: making mistakes at work, and poorer work performance, then it's just,

1618
01:27:10,253 --> 01:27:12,893
Speaker 15: you know, it's obvious how that would have an impact

1619
01:27:13,013 --> 01:27:16,533
Speaker 15: on productivity. And that's you know that I'm talking sort of.

1620
01:27:16,773 --> 01:27:19,933
Speaker 15: I guess that's particularly around you know, white collar workers,

1621
01:27:19,933 --> 01:27:22,933
Speaker 15: to coin a horrible term, but people who are in

1622
01:27:23,053 --> 01:27:27,773
Speaker 15: you know, stereotopically blue blue collar jobs. If you're exhausted

1623
01:27:27,813 --> 01:27:31,773
Speaker 15: and tired and not concentrating, you know, a slip up

1624
01:27:31,853 --> 01:27:35,933
Speaker 15: there and that through your mental well being, a slip

1625
01:27:36,013 --> 01:27:39,213
Speaker 15: up there could have quite catastrophic consequences for you or

1626
01:27:39,253 --> 01:27:41,773
Speaker 15: people around you. You know, you inadvertently put your hand

1627
01:27:41,813 --> 01:27:44,333
Speaker 15: in the mincing machine because you're a bit tired and distracted,

1628
01:27:44,333 --> 01:27:48,613
Speaker 15: and so it's it's you know, there's some real costs there.

1629
01:27:48,693 --> 01:27:51,533
Speaker 15: I think that that if only we sort of if

1630
01:27:51,573 --> 01:27:54,493
Speaker 15: we took off the label of well being and just

1631
01:27:54,573 --> 01:27:59,053
Speaker 15: looked at it in terms of human performance, then maybe

1632
01:27:59,053 --> 01:28:02,173
Speaker 15: that's that maybe people go, oh, actually, maybe we should

1633
01:28:02,173 --> 01:28:05,053
Speaker 15: be investing in this if if we really think people

1634
01:28:05,053 --> 01:28:09,493
Speaker 15: are our number one, you know, assets, next, we want

1635
01:28:09,493 --> 01:28:12,453
Speaker 15: to make sure that asset is finally tuned and working

1636
01:28:12,653 --> 01:28:14,733
Speaker 15: just as well as it really can be, if we

1637
01:28:14,813 --> 01:28:16,853
Speaker 15: really want to get our productivity levels up.

1638
01:28:16,973 --> 01:28:19,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah too, right, So what would be your advice

1639
01:28:19,333 --> 01:28:23,213
Speaker 2: the into businesses and employers who maybe have been pulling

1640
01:28:23,213 --> 01:28:25,613
Speaker 2: back a little bit on some of the mental health

1641
01:28:25,653 --> 01:28:28,053
Speaker 2: and even though you hate the term well being.

1642
01:28:28,293 --> 01:28:33,093
Speaker 15: Support, yeah, look, I think it is. Firstly, there's that

1643
01:28:33,493 --> 01:28:37,573
Speaker 15: I think, change, change how you think about it, and

1644
01:28:38,293 --> 01:28:42,533
Speaker 15: you know, be persuaded by the evidence. There's there's truckloads

1645
01:28:42,533 --> 01:28:45,053
Speaker 15: of evidence now that that. In fact, I think world

1646
01:28:45,053 --> 01:28:50,733
Speaker 15: health organizations said that globally, twelve billion working days a

1647
01:28:50,813 --> 01:28:53,853
Speaker 15: year are lost due to depression and anxiety. And that's

1648
01:28:54,013 --> 01:28:56,693
Speaker 15: that's a cost of well over a trillion dollars. Now

1649
01:28:56,693 --> 01:29:01,133
Speaker 15: that's globally. But you if you stop thinking about it

1650
01:29:01,173 --> 01:29:05,373
Speaker 15: as well being and thinking about it as mental health

1651
01:29:05,453 --> 01:29:08,373
Speaker 15: or human performance however best you want to think about it,

1652
01:29:09,293 --> 01:29:11,853
Speaker 15: but think about it through the lens of well sorry,

1653
01:29:11,893 --> 01:29:15,893
Speaker 15: through the lens of productivity. I think that might quite

1654
01:29:15,973 --> 01:29:20,813
Speaker 15: dramatically change what you do and for people and businesses,

1655
01:29:20,853 --> 01:29:24,533
Speaker 15: for staff. It may be that just in this economic time,

1656
01:29:24,613 --> 01:29:27,053
Speaker 15: you have to adopt a bit of a pragmatic approach

1657
01:29:27,173 --> 01:29:30,693
Speaker 15: and maybe you sort of turn down the volume on

1658
01:29:30,733 --> 01:29:34,173
Speaker 15: the term well being and talk about mental health and

1659
01:29:34,253 --> 01:29:38,133
Speaker 15: how well you can perform if you are at your peak,

1660
01:29:39,133 --> 01:29:42,213
Speaker 15: and that may have perhaps more purchase when you are

1661
01:29:43,013 --> 01:29:46,413
Speaker 15: asking for things from your employer. And I think to

1662
01:29:46,533 --> 01:29:48,973
Speaker 15: it at a meta level. You know that I know

1663
01:29:49,013 --> 01:29:51,493
Speaker 15: the government's really keen to get you know New Zealand.

1664
01:29:52,333 --> 01:29:54,733
Speaker 15: You know, productivity up this year and this is going

1665
01:29:54,813 --> 01:29:57,093
Speaker 15: to be the year when we really have an economic turnaround.

1666
01:29:57,133 --> 01:30:00,653
Speaker 15: And I think they would do really well to look

1667
01:30:00,693 --> 01:30:02,653
Speaker 15: at these as well and think, actually, what can we

1668
01:30:02,693 --> 01:30:06,893
Speaker 15: do to support the people of New Zealand. Two hance

1669
01:30:07,013 --> 01:30:11,733
Speaker 15: their mental performance and hunts their mental health atwork because

1670
01:30:11,773 --> 01:30:13,653
Speaker 15: we know that that's probably going to be a key

1671
01:30:13,973 --> 01:30:16,173
Speaker 15: to getting the economy going again. So I think it

1672
01:30:16,173 --> 01:30:19,973
Speaker 15: can happen both at an individual level and an organizational level,

1673
01:30:20,013 --> 01:30:23,013
Speaker 15: and then at a political national level as well.

1674
01:30:23,373 --> 01:30:25,933
Speaker 2: Very good. Thank you, dougle appreciate your time. As per

1675
01:30:26,173 --> 01:30:29,533
Speaker 2: That is Google Sutherland. He's a clinical psychologist with Umbrella

1676
01:30:29,573 --> 01:30:32,053
Speaker 2: Well Being. Before midday, we're going to listen to some

1677
01:30:32,133 --> 01:30:36,293
Speaker 2: new music from Young Franco. Young Franco is a Brisbane

1678
01:30:36,373 --> 01:30:40,533
Speaker 2: based DJ who kind of mixes up old DISCOI tracks

1679
01:30:40,653 --> 01:30:44,413
Speaker 2: with new artists and has lots of collaborators. It's really

1680
01:30:44,493 --> 01:30:47,253
Speaker 2: kind of summary dancy light music, So looking forward to

1681
01:30:47,293 --> 01:30:49,573
Speaker 2: playing some of that next up. Our travel correspondents in

1682
01:30:49,613 --> 01:30:52,013
Speaker 2: for the Saturday morning. Right now, it's nineteen past eleven.

1683
01:30:52,333 --> 01:30:54,253
Speaker 2: You're with Jack Taime on newstalk ZEDB.

1684
01:30:55,093 --> 01:30:58,373
Speaker 3: Travel with Windy Woo Tours Where the world is yours

1685
01:30:58,533 --> 01:30:58,973
Speaker 3: for now?

1686
01:30:59,693 --> 01:31:02,653
Speaker 2: Now, Travel correspondent Mike Yardley is taking us for a

1687
01:31:02,653 --> 01:31:07,493
Speaker 2: few walks and wings and Marlvra this morning Gilder, Jack,

1688
01:31:07,973 --> 01:31:10,173
Speaker 2: what is the best way would you say to start

1689
01:31:10,253 --> 01:31:12,293
Speaker 2: the day? Right at the top of the south there

1690
01:31:12,373 --> 01:31:13,493
Speaker 2: and Pickton.

1691
01:31:14,053 --> 01:31:16,573
Speaker 21: Well, as you know, Jack Pickton is ringked with some

1692
01:31:16,813 --> 01:31:20,173
Speaker 21: salivating trails. I reckon a really good head clearer to

1693
01:31:20,213 --> 01:31:23,093
Speaker 21: start the day as the Bob's Bay Track. So if

1694
01:31:23,093 --> 01:31:26,253
Speaker 21: you're in Pickton, head over that coat Hangar Bridge by

1695
01:31:26,253 --> 01:31:29,533
Speaker 21: the Marina, around to Shelley Beach and then onto Bob's Bay.

1696
01:31:29,573 --> 01:31:32,013
Speaker 21: It there is such a short and sweet hillside stroll

1697
01:31:32,413 --> 01:31:35,333
Speaker 21: on the harbor edge beast of all. You've got such

1698
01:31:35,333 --> 01:31:39,013
Speaker 21: a goodvantage point. Watch the fairies pulling in out of

1699
01:31:39,213 --> 01:31:42,093
Speaker 21: pict In typically not on auto.

1700
01:31:41,653 --> 01:31:46,693
Speaker 2: Pilot, yes, typically not, hopefully not. I think I think

1701
01:31:47,413 --> 01:31:50,453
Speaker 2: we can be cautiously optimistic that they've learned from mistakes

1702
01:31:50,813 --> 01:31:53,813
Speaker 2: last year. Yeah, so did you go up Snout Track?

1703
01:31:54,573 --> 01:31:58,093
Speaker 21: Yes? I did, Jack, And obviously all the locals will

1704
01:31:58,133 --> 01:32:01,413
Speaker 21: tell visitors you've got to do Snout Track. And the

1705
01:32:01,493 --> 01:32:05,573
Speaker 21: full walk all ride is about twelve kilometers. But if

1706
01:32:05,653 --> 01:32:09,573
Speaker 21: the Marquis use of Queen Charlotte Sound all the way

1707
01:32:09,653 --> 01:32:13,373
Speaker 21: to the head of the peninsula, that's what makes the

1708
01:32:13,413 --> 01:32:16,733
Speaker 21: walk the gift that keeps on giving its view with demo.

1709
01:32:17,373 --> 01:32:20,293
Speaker 21: And if you do want to cheat, you can just

1710
01:32:20,533 --> 01:32:24,413
Speaker 21: drive through a lot of it to Victoria Domain up

1711
01:32:24,453 --> 01:32:29,173
Speaker 21: to the Queen Charlotte viewpoint. Car park which overlooks to

1712
01:32:29,333 --> 01:32:32,773
Speaker 21: Secai Bay and Karaka Bay, which is where the fairy

1713
01:32:32,893 --> 01:32:35,413
Speaker 21: grounded last year. In fact, I think from that car

1714
01:32:35,453 --> 01:32:40,613
Speaker 21: park viewpoint is probably where your auntie famously did her

1715
01:32:41,093 --> 01:32:42,933
Speaker 21: live on the scene radio cross last year.

1716
01:32:43,693 --> 01:32:45,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, they've got the call up, got the

1717
01:32:45,893 --> 01:32:49,373
Speaker 2: call up. Yeah, that's I think that's exactly where it was.

1718
01:32:50,173 --> 01:32:52,893
Speaker 21: Yes, So from that, from that carpark deck, I was

1719
01:32:52,933 --> 01:32:54,173
Speaker 21: just going to say, if you do want to do

1720
01:32:54,213 --> 01:32:57,173
Speaker 21: a short walk from the car park, it's just forty

1721
01:32:57,213 --> 01:33:01,053
Speaker 21: minutes walking time to the very tip of the peninsula

1722
01:33:01,133 --> 01:33:04,693
Speaker 21: to the snout and then the other really cool walk

1723
01:33:04,773 --> 01:33:09,293
Speaker 21: also including Victoria Domain as the Pectm to wayca wad Trek,

1724
01:33:09,373 --> 01:33:12,493
Speaker 21: which is actually a doddle of a walk. Most of

1725
01:33:12,493 --> 01:33:16,013
Speaker 21: it is flat, fabulously through bush so you get a

1726
01:33:16,013 --> 01:33:18,893
Speaker 21: lot of birds on zipping you all the way to

1727
01:33:18,933 --> 01:33:20,613
Speaker 21: the serene sites of Waikawa Bay.

1728
01:33:21,253 --> 01:33:24,693
Speaker 2: So when you feel pekish and pickton, yeah we issue did.

1729
01:33:25,453 --> 01:33:27,493
Speaker 21: Well, I reckon toast your lords. It's hard to beat.

1730
01:33:28,333 --> 01:33:32,853
Speaker 21: So this shop is right on the waterfront across from

1731
01:33:33,093 --> 01:33:36,533
Speaker 21: the marina and people just go gager over the a

1732
01:33:36,613 --> 01:33:41,813
Speaker 21: gourmet soudo toasted semis I reckon. The Ivan is perhaps

1733
01:33:41,853 --> 01:33:44,093
Speaker 21: the best of the lot. The ivan is like a

1734
01:33:44,133 --> 01:33:48,973
Speaker 21: mashup of astrami, saur kraut and pickle. It is just

1735
01:33:49,133 --> 01:33:51,933
Speaker 21: so good, such a great way to fill your walk.

1736
01:33:52,493 --> 01:33:54,693
Speaker 21: And if you are looking for something a bit more

1737
01:33:54,693 --> 01:33:58,613
Speaker 21: substantial aid from the day, my suggestion would be Cortado,

1738
01:33:58,893 --> 01:34:03,293
Speaker 21: very Mediterranean based menu, lots of tapers, lots of small plates,

1739
01:34:03,773 --> 01:34:08,053
Speaker 21: things like Spanish meat, bulls Land to starter and Cortato.

1740
01:34:08,173 --> 01:34:11,253
Speaker 21: Jack is owned by a Mark and Joe Yardley, so

1741
01:34:11,293 --> 01:34:12,093
Speaker 21: it's got to be good.

1742
01:34:12,053 --> 01:34:15,573
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Yeah, you can trust that it's not related.

1743
01:34:15,693 --> 01:34:17,293
Speaker 6: I have to have to point.

1744
01:34:17,053 --> 01:34:20,133
Speaker 2: Out, Hey, it's all right, Andie Bob's already had a

1745
01:34:20,173 --> 01:34:21,093
Speaker 2: shout out.

1746
01:34:22,053 --> 01:34:22,973
Speaker 21: That's the nepotism.

1747
01:34:23,053 --> 01:34:23,293
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1748
01:34:23,613 --> 01:34:26,413
Speaker 2: If you want to combine some really good work walks

1749
01:34:26,413 --> 01:34:30,213
Speaker 2: with endangered bird life on a Queen Charlotte cruise, where

1750
01:34:30,213 --> 01:34:31,133
Speaker 2: would you say as good?

1751
01:34:32,013 --> 01:34:35,493
Speaker 21: Yeah? If burning is your bag, I would suggest do

1752
01:34:35,613 --> 01:34:39,653
Speaker 21: the half day jaunt to Motawada Island. I only recently

1753
01:34:39,693 --> 01:34:43,613
Speaker 21: went to Mottawara for the first time recently with Beach

1754
01:34:43,653 --> 01:34:47,093
Speaker 21: Comba Cruises. So beach Coma do these fantastic calf day

1755
01:34:47,693 --> 01:34:51,333
Speaker 21: excursions until about the end of April is the season

1756
01:34:52,293 --> 01:34:56,013
Speaker 21: and it's such a thriving island century. So you've got

1757
01:34:56,013 --> 01:34:59,973
Speaker 21: this amazing one way track around the hell and the

1758
01:35:00,053 --> 01:35:02,533
Speaker 21: reason it's so good is because you get the most

1759
01:35:02,533 --> 01:35:07,253
Speaker 21: incredible lookout points like, for example, the cop straight lockout.

1760
01:35:07,533 --> 01:35:11,573
Speaker 21: Oh yeah, cracking perch across to the North Island in

1761
01:35:11,653 --> 01:35:14,573
Speaker 21: cox Strait. But yeah, it's all about the birds, to

1762
01:35:14,613 --> 01:35:17,253
Speaker 21: be honest. Jeck and Motuara has been predator free for

1763
01:35:17,293 --> 01:35:19,773
Speaker 21: over thirty years. So over the course of a couple

1764
01:35:19,773 --> 01:35:26,453
Speaker 21: of hours I encountered gray warblers, the South Island saddleback,

1765
01:35:26,733 --> 01:35:29,213
Speaker 21: the kakaiki, which of course is one of our great

1766
01:35:29,253 --> 01:35:33,453
Speaker 21: parakeets in the South Island Robin. Also the Marlborough green gecko,

1767
01:35:33,613 --> 01:35:38,093
Speaker 21: which talk about green, it's more like vivid emerald. The

1768
01:35:38,173 --> 01:35:40,973
Speaker 21: Marlboro cream gecko. It looks like it's been sort of

1769
01:35:41,413 --> 01:35:44,653
Speaker 21: dipped in a de luxe color chart. It's just amazing.

1770
01:35:44,853 --> 01:35:49,133
Speaker 21: So yeah, alongside the geckos, you will be twitching on overdrive.

1771
01:35:49,253 --> 01:35:53,573
Speaker 2: Ah. How special Motuara is close to ship Cove.

1772
01:35:53,373 --> 01:35:56,173
Speaker 21: Isn't it It is, so this is another little sort

1773
01:35:56,213 --> 01:35:59,253
Speaker 21: of special add on to the excursion. You get a

1774
01:35:59,293 --> 01:36:02,453
Speaker 21: shortly layover at Chip Cove and I just love ship Cove,

1775
01:36:02,493 --> 01:36:05,173
Speaker 21: but it's just stineped in history. You can feel the

1776
01:36:05,293 --> 01:36:08,453
Speaker 21: history at chip Cove because I mean James Cork dropped

1777
01:36:08,493 --> 01:36:12,173
Speaker 21: anchor the on five separate ocations. He loved to ship Cove.

1778
01:36:12,493 --> 01:36:16,853
Speaker 21: Some of the earliest sustained contacts between Europeans and Maori

1779
01:36:17,133 --> 01:36:20,733
Speaker 21: occurred at chip Cove and it was harmonious. The Coocker

1780
01:36:20,853 --> 01:36:23,973
Speaker 21: Monument so cool because it's got one of the original

1781
01:36:24,053 --> 01:36:28,493
Speaker 21: canons from the Endeavor, and then alongside that that gorgeous

1782
01:36:28,613 --> 01:36:32,413
Speaker 21: carved for Fenowa, which vividly illustrates the wonderful legend of

1783
01:36:32,493 --> 01:36:35,933
Speaker 21: Coupe and the giant octopus he chased in these waters.

1784
01:36:36,013 --> 01:36:38,613
Speaker 21: So yeah, I just think ship Cover is one of

1785
01:36:38,653 --> 01:36:41,853
Speaker 21: the heart stealing destinations in New Zealand. It's also, of

1786
01:36:41,853 --> 01:36:43,733
Speaker 21: course the start of the Queen Charlotte track if you

1787
01:36:43,773 --> 01:36:46,893
Speaker 21: wanted a walking and talking with the birds.

1788
01:36:47,213 --> 01:36:52,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, And from the beautiful peace and serenity within the

1789
01:36:52,813 --> 01:36:56,373
Speaker 2: New Zealand Bush to some big V eight engines taken

1790
01:36:56,413 --> 01:37:00,213
Speaker 2: to the skies or the twelve in some cases, the

1791
01:37:00,253 --> 01:37:02,773
Speaker 2: big air show is returning to mail to Blenham, isn't it.

1792
01:37:03,453 --> 01:37:05,813
Speaker 21: That's right? Yeah, I thought we should mention this because

1793
01:37:05,853 --> 01:37:09,733
Speaker 21: it's not that far away Easter weekend the Classic Fighters

1794
01:37:09,773 --> 01:37:12,573
Speaker 21: air Show, and there's going to be over one hundred

1795
01:37:12,613 --> 01:37:17,213
Speaker 21: aircraft taking part. Vintage planes fight at aircraft from both

1796
01:37:17,253 --> 01:37:20,213
Speaker 21: world Wars, lots of jet age specimens, A lot of

1797
01:37:20,253 --> 01:37:23,653
Speaker 21: them are locally based at Omaka Aviation Heritage Center, but

1798
01:37:23,773 --> 01:37:28,093
Speaker 21: also there are dozens coming from across New Zealand and internationally.

1799
01:37:28,173 --> 01:37:29,773
Speaker 21: I got a sneak peak jack at some of the

1800
01:37:29,813 --> 01:37:32,653
Speaker 21: props in the displays that have been worked on which

1801
01:37:32,853 --> 01:37:35,773
Speaker 21: will form part of the spectacles at the air show.

1802
01:37:36,453 --> 01:37:39,533
Speaker 21: So it's quite a big production they put on and

1803
01:37:39,573 --> 01:37:41,813
Speaker 21: they are pulling out all the stops. So yeah, if

1804
01:37:41,853 --> 01:37:44,453
Speaker 21: that sounds like a bit of you, I would strongly

1805
01:37:44,453 --> 01:37:48,453
Speaker 21: suggest you booked your tickets, but perhaps more importantly your

1806
01:37:48,493 --> 01:37:52,293
Speaker 21: accommodation Toronto ahead of Easter in Blenham.

1807
01:37:52,373 --> 01:37:56,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, great advice. Hey, Mike, given was what November?

1808
01:37:57,293 --> 01:38:00,013
Speaker 2: I think you had the Christmas decorations up at your place.

1809
01:38:00,053 --> 01:38:02,973
Speaker 2: We know you love, we know you love the festivities

1810
01:38:03,293 --> 01:38:06,373
Speaker 2: over the Christmas period, but given us now February third,

1811
01:38:06,573 --> 01:38:09,093
Speaker 2: I just needed to triple check you have taken your

1812
01:38:09,173 --> 01:38:10,733
Speaker 2: Christmas decorations down, haven't you.

1813
01:38:11,653 --> 01:38:13,093
Speaker 21: I got a bit of a shock when I looked

1814
01:38:13,093 --> 01:38:16,253
Speaker 21: at the gallon of the bloke. I have a very

1815
01:38:16,253 --> 01:38:17,933
Speaker 21: big weekend task. You hit them.

1816
01:38:18,093 --> 01:38:20,813
Speaker 2: By We're gonna if you. I'm going to check in

1817
01:38:20,813 --> 01:38:23,773
Speaker 2: this time next week. Don't make us stage an intervention,

1818
01:38:24,013 --> 01:38:27,013
Speaker 2: will you. I mean we're almost getting We're we're not

1819
01:38:27,053 --> 01:38:29,573
Speaker 2: too far off the point where just to leave them

1820
01:38:29,653 --> 01:38:30,973
Speaker 2: up in time for next Christmas.

1821
01:38:31,013 --> 01:38:33,933
Speaker 21: Mike, I can just notice there are some white jackets

1822
01:38:33,973 --> 01:38:38,293
Speaker 21: down at the front gate. Jack, Yes, that could be

1823
01:38:38,293 --> 01:38:38,733
Speaker 21: the reason.

1824
01:38:39,893 --> 01:38:40,173
Speaker 3: Help.

1825
01:38:41,493 --> 01:38:43,613
Speaker 2: I'm good luck with that. Thank you so much. And

1826
01:38:43,653 --> 01:38:45,813
Speaker 2: we'll put all of your tips for traveling through Marlborough,

1827
01:38:46,773 --> 01:38:50,533
Speaker 2: especially ahead of the wonderful war Birds Festival over Easter

1828
01:38:50,653 --> 01:38:52,973
Speaker 2: weekend up on the News Talk we se'd b website

1829
01:38:53,133 --> 01:38:55,813
Speaker 2: before midday new music from Young Franco. We've got your

1830
01:38:55,853 --> 01:39:04,253
Speaker 2: book picks too. Right now it is eleven thirty.

1831
01:39:02,213 --> 01:39:03,853
Speaker 3: Getting your weekends started.

1832
01:39:04,053 --> 01:39:07,653
Speaker 1: It's Saturday Morning with Jack team on News Talks B.

1833
01:39:24,653 --> 01:39:27,493
Speaker 2: New st Vit you with Jack Tame Jason Pine isn't

1834
01:39:27,493 --> 01:39:32,053
Speaker 2: for weekend sport this afternoon ahead of Auckland FC's match

1835
01:39:32,293 --> 01:39:35,173
Speaker 2: five o'clock this evening. What used to be called Mount

1836
01:39:35,213 --> 01:39:37,333
Speaker 2: Smart and I can never remember the new name, Go Media,

1837
01:39:37,413 --> 01:39:39,733
Speaker 2: Go Media. Stadium Party's going to be calling that game

1838
01:39:39,773 --> 01:39:41,613
Speaker 2: as well. Of course. I'm good to see you sir,

1839
01:39:41,733 --> 01:39:43,853
Speaker 2: Good to see you Jack. Yeah, you've got a big

1840
01:39:44,093 --> 01:39:46,333
Speaker 2: interview speaking of Auckland FC this afternoon.

1841
01:39:46,373 --> 01:39:48,293
Speaker 22: Yeah, head coach Steve Corrick is going to pop in

1842
01:39:48,373 --> 01:39:50,293
Speaker 22: on his way to the game presumably. I'm not sure

1843
01:39:50,293 --> 01:39:52,613
Speaker 22: what his game day routine is. They tend to get

1844
01:39:52,653 --> 01:39:55,413
Speaker 22: there a couple of hours before kickoff, so five o'clock.

1845
01:39:55,453 --> 01:39:57,253
Speaker 22: That's three o'clock, so yeah, I think he can probably

1846
01:39:57,253 --> 01:39:59,613
Speaker 22: fit us in around mid day, he says. He says

1847
01:39:59,653 --> 01:40:02,053
Speaker 22: he will, so we'll take his word. Yeah, Ken to

1848
01:40:02,093 --> 01:40:05,093
Speaker 22: also just read the pulse of Auckland FC fans and

1849
01:40:05,133 --> 01:40:09,173
Speaker 22: also just then total stuff I'm hearing around how people

1850
01:40:09,213 --> 01:40:11,653
Speaker 22: are just jumping on board with this team. It's become,

1851
01:40:12,093 --> 01:40:15,373
Speaker 22: you know, especially with kids, something that is cool to

1852
01:40:15,453 --> 01:40:18,453
Speaker 22: do to go along and watch Auckland FC play. So yeah,

1853
01:40:18,453 --> 01:40:21,293
Speaker 22: looking forward to to chatting to Steve Coricker after midday, yeah,

1854
01:40:21,293 --> 01:40:22,893
Speaker 22: and getting out there to go media and watching them

1855
01:40:23,053 --> 01:40:24,373
Speaker 22: take on MacArthur this afternoon.

1856
01:40:24,413 --> 01:40:25,973
Speaker 2: It's so good. I mean, I you know, I take

1857
01:40:25,973 --> 01:40:28,413
Speaker 2: our boy along and he we've got tickets for every

1858
01:40:28,493 --> 01:40:31,213
Speaker 2: game of the season and he just absolutely fizzles over it.

1859
01:40:31,813 --> 01:40:33,853
Speaker 2: The family kind of atmosphere they've built there is just

1860
01:40:33,893 --> 01:40:36,733
Speaker 2: superb and you know, when you've got the two Kiwi

1861
01:40:36,773 --> 01:40:39,253
Speaker 2: teams competing as they are, it's just Yeah, it's a

1862
01:40:39,493 --> 01:40:41,453
Speaker 2: really exciting time for New Zealand football.

1863
01:40:41,453 --> 01:40:42,973
Speaker 22: I think, Yeah, we've got the Derby in three weeks

1864
01:40:43,013 --> 01:40:45,813
Speaker 22: as well, Jack the third yes of the third edition

1865
01:40:45,853 --> 01:40:49,133
Speaker 22: of the Derby. Auckland FC won the first two of course,

1866
01:40:49,173 --> 01:40:51,333
Speaker 22: but yeah, there's been a bit of breathing space between

1867
01:40:51,613 --> 01:40:55,133
Speaker 22: that magnificent game in early December and now. So yeah,

1868
01:40:55,173 --> 01:40:57,533
Speaker 22: in three weeks time, I get the feeling we're heading

1869
01:40:57,533 --> 01:40:59,853
Speaker 22: for another sal out at a go media for that one.

1870
01:40:59,973 --> 01:41:01,693
Speaker 2: Tell you what Warren Gatton is having a rough time

1871
01:41:01,733 --> 01:41:02,653
Speaker 2: of things at the moment.

1872
01:41:02,493 --> 01:41:06,013
Speaker 22: Isn't he forty three nil? I don't know what is worse,

1873
01:41:06,493 --> 01:41:09,493
Speaker 22: upping forty three points or not scoring any Yeah, in

1874
01:41:09,533 --> 01:41:13,213
Speaker 22: the game of rugby, nila is such an uncommon thing

1875
01:41:13,253 --> 01:41:14,733
Speaker 22: in rugby. I mean, you find a way to score

1876
01:41:14,773 --> 01:41:18,053
Speaker 22: a try or kick some points or something. But even

1877
01:41:18,573 --> 01:41:21,173
Speaker 22: after one game of the Six Nations he already I

1878
01:41:21,173 --> 01:41:23,173
Speaker 22: mean imagine going out to face the media after that.

1879
01:41:23,693 --> 01:41:25,893
Speaker 2: It's pretty tough. I mean even before the game, this

1880
01:41:26,053 --> 01:41:28,733
Speaker 2: is the Wales have just gone down to France. Even

1881
01:41:28,773 --> 01:41:32,893
Speaker 2: before the game there were people questioning his coaching future, right,

1882
01:41:32,933 --> 01:41:35,373
Speaker 2: but a performance like that, you'd have to say, my goodness,

1883
01:41:35,413 --> 01:41:38,373
Speaker 2: the pressure is really tripled if anything. Yeah, yeah, I

1884
01:41:38,453 --> 01:41:39,413
Speaker 2: was on the show this afternoon.

1885
01:41:39,413 --> 01:41:41,533
Speaker 22: Well apart from Steve Carriker after mid day, Dame Sophie

1886
01:41:41,533 --> 01:41:45,333
Speaker 22: Pasco with us. Yeah, I mean, what a what a champion.

1887
01:41:45,413 --> 01:41:48,333
Speaker 22: She's been officially retiring this week. She's going to join

1888
01:41:48,413 --> 01:41:50,733
Speaker 22: us after one o'clock. We've also got Rob Penny on

1889
01:41:50,773 --> 01:41:53,453
Speaker 22: the show. The Crusaders, in fact, all six New Zealand

1890
01:41:53,493 --> 01:41:56,613
Speaker 22: based Super Rugby teams having preseason matches. I'm not sure

1891
01:41:56,653 --> 01:41:58,653
Speaker 22: what you can take from them when they are thirty

1892
01:41:58,693 --> 01:42:02,133
Speaker 22: and forty man squad. Yes, but I think you know

1893
01:42:02,213 --> 01:42:04,333
Speaker 22: more so with Rob Penny. Came to chat to him

1894
01:42:04,333 --> 01:42:07,013
Speaker 22: about what he learned last year and how he plans

1895
01:42:07,053 --> 01:42:08,853
Speaker 22: to turn things around this year. He's on the show.

1896
01:42:09,053 --> 01:42:11,173
Speaker 22: But a cricket for you as well, and other bits

1897
01:42:11,173 --> 01:42:13,653
Speaker 22: and pieces too. I'm sure we'll find room for whatever

1898
01:42:13,733 --> 01:42:14,653
Speaker 22: pops its head up.

1899
01:42:15,013 --> 01:42:17,413
Speaker 2: Very good, looking forward to it. Thank yous sir, enjoy

1900
01:42:17,653 --> 01:42:19,813
Speaker 2: the show and the game. This afternoon, Jason Pine with

1901
01:42:19,893 --> 01:42:22,853
Speaker 2: us for weekends Sports. Steve Coriker, the aukand DEFC head

1902
01:42:22,853 --> 01:42:26,333
Speaker 2: coach with us right after the midday news. Before midday,

1903
01:42:26,413 --> 01:42:28,533
Speaker 2: We've got that new music from Young Franco. And I've

1904
01:42:28,533 --> 01:42:30,173
Speaker 2: got this book from Alice Feenie. I'm going to tell

1905
01:42:30,173 --> 01:42:30,773
Speaker 2: you about next.

1906
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Speaker 3: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

1907
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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack, Tay and bepewured on code on

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Speaker 2: Alice Feeney, New York Times bestselling author However Many Times Over,

1910
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Speaker 2: is back with a brand new book. It's called Beautiful Ugly,

1911
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Speaker 2: and our book reviewer Katherine Rains has been reading it

1912
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Speaker 2: and is with us this morning. Counter Catherine, Good morning, check.

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Speaker 2: So tell us about Beautiful Ugly.

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Speaker 23: So this is you open with this struggling author, a

1915
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Speaker 23: guy called Grady Green, and he's talking about his wife's disappearance,

1916
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Speaker 23: which happened over a year year ago. And a year

1917
01:43:07,973 --> 01:43:10,373
Speaker 23: ago while she was on the phone to him, she

1918
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Speaker 23: saw a woman lying on the side of the road

1919
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Speaker 23: and she got out to help her. And she hasn't

1920
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Speaker 23: been seen since, and her car was found abandoned at

1921
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Speaker 23: the roadside, and he's really tortured by what happened to her.

1922
01:43:20,773 --> 01:43:23,573
Speaker 23: He can't sleep, he can't write, and then out of

1923
01:43:23,573 --> 01:43:26,493
Speaker 23: the blue, his agent offers him an opportunity to live

1924
01:43:26,533 --> 01:43:29,933
Speaker 23: in this remote writing cabin in on this very strange

1925
01:43:29,973 --> 01:43:35,053
Speaker 23: little Scottish island, and this cabin was who an old

1926
01:43:35,093 --> 01:43:37,853
Speaker 23: deceased author had lived there, and he kind of seems

1927
01:43:37,973 --> 01:43:40,213
Speaker 23: thinks it's kind of worth it if he can rescue

1928
01:43:40,253 --> 01:43:42,693
Speaker 23: his career and give himself some headspace and think about it.

1929
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Speaker 23: And without giving any of the story away, there's lots

1930
01:43:47,213 --> 01:43:51,413
Speaker 23: of twists. There's some very eccentric characters, there's dual timelines

1931
01:43:51,453 --> 01:43:55,293
Speaker 23: and point of views, and some very odd behavior. But

1932
01:43:55,493 --> 01:43:58,733
Speaker 23: this whole underlying feel of the novel on the island

1933
01:43:58,813 --> 01:44:01,213
Speaker 23: just sort of adds to the sinister level of foreboding

1934
01:44:01,213 --> 01:44:03,653
Speaker 23: and you get twisted affter twist, and this tension and

1935
01:44:03,733 --> 01:44:06,973
Speaker 23: suspense is excellent and you honestly keep flapping the pages

1936
01:44:07,013 --> 01:44:08,733
Speaker 23: because you just need to know what happens next.

1937
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Speaker 2: Okay, it sounds sounds groping, Yes, it sounds, yeah, sounds fantastic,

1938
01:44:13,293 --> 01:44:16,053
Speaker 2: it is it is, okay, cool So that's Beautiful Ugly

1939
01:44:16,133 --> 01:44:19,053
Speaker 2: by Alice Feoene. You've also read A Dangerous Game by

1940
01:44:19,133 --> 01:44:20,093
Speaker 2: Mandy Robotham.

1941
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Speaker 23: So this is set in nineteen fifty two and in London,

1942
01:44:24,173 --> 01:44:27,973
Speaker 23: and it's during the Great Smock where it's estimated about

1943
01:44:28,013 --> 01:44:30,333
Speaker 23: four thousand people died. So this adds the sort of

1944
01:44:30,493 --> 01:44:35,453
Speaker 23: level of I don't know, undercover suspense to everything. And

1945
01:44:35,533 --> 01:44:37,733
Speaker 23: you know, London is still struggling after the end of

1946
01:44:37,773 --> 01:44:39,733
Speaker 23: the war. And you meet this young war widow. Her

1947
01:44:39,813 --> 01:44:43,173
Speaker 23: name's Helen Dexter and she's called Dexi most of the time,

1948
01:44:43,613 --> 01:44:45,173
Speaker 23: and she was in the midst of the action during

1949
01:44:45,173 --> 01:44:47,573
Speaker 23: the war, even putting herself in danger. And now that

1950
01:44:47,613 --> 01:44:50,333
Speaker 23: the war's over and she's joined the police force, but

1951
01:44:50,413 --> 01:44:53,133
Speaker 23: she finds herself being given very manual work that pre

1952
01:44:53,253 --> 01:44:56,773
Speaker 23: war chauvinism is back and force, and she's almost just

1953
01:44:56,813 --> 01:44:59,333
Speaker 23: the tea lady and she rarely wants to fulfill her

1954
01:44:59,413 --> 01:45:02,813
Speaker 23: dreams of becoming a detective. And there's this guy, Harry Schroeder,

1955
01:45:02,813 --> 01:45:06,933
Speaker 23: and he's a police detective in Hamburg and despite being

1956
01:45:07,293 --> 01:45:11,213
Speaker 23: anti nat pretty anti Nazi in Germany, he survived World

1957
01:45:11,213 --> 01:45:13,253
Speaker 23: War iiO, although his wife and daughter didn't and he's

1958
01:45:13,333 --> 01:45:15,933
Speaker 23: haunted by this, and he's sent to London on assignment,

1959
01:45:16,493 --> 01:45:19,173
Speaker 23: and Jex's life really changes when she meets him, because

1960
01:45:19,173 --> 01:45:21,613
Speaker 23: they both end up being tasked with hunting down a

1961
01:45:21,693 --> 01:45:25,613
Speaker 23: Nazi war criminal that Harry had studied with. But this

1962
01:45:25,693 --> 01:45:28,093
Speaker 23: war criminal has had a total face reconstruction and so

1963
01:45:28,133 --> 01:45:29,973
Speaker 23: they now have to prove who he is and who

1964
01:45:29,973 --> 01:45:34,253
Speaker 23: he was, and so there's secret negotiations and the injustice

1965
01:45:34,253 --> 01:45:37,013
Speaker 23: of this person who's manipulating the system, and there's this

1966
01:45:37,253 --> 01:45:40,373
Speaker 23: just really good sequence of events that keeps you really engaged.

1967
01:45:40,373 --> 01:45:42,773
Speaker 23: It's kind of that almost old school Cat and Mouse

1968
01:45:42,773 --> 01:45:43,733
Speaker 23: thriller felt into it.

1969
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Speaker 2: Yeah, brilliant. Okay, that's a Dangerous Game by Mandy Robotham.

1970
01:45:47,173 --> 01:45:48,733
Speaker 2: That sounds like a bit of me. I reckon that one.

1971
01:45:48,773 --> 01:45:51,893
Speaker 2: Thanks Catherine, Thanks both those books. A Dangerous Game and

1972
01:45:52,093 --> 01:45:55,093
Speaker 2: Beautiful Ugly will be up on the Newstalks. He'd be

1973
01:45:55,213 --> 01:46:00,253
Speaker 2: website everything from our show, our recipes, our screen time recommendations,

1974
01:46:00,333 --> 01:46:03,613
Speaker 2: film reviews, all the good stuff goes up at Newsbalks.

1975
01:46:03,613 --> 01:46:07,013
Speaker 2: He'db dot code on nzed Ford slash Jack. That's the easiest,

1976
01:46:07,093 --> 01:46:09,893
Speaker 2: fastest way to get everything from our show right now.

1977
01:46:09,973 --> 01:46:12,053
Speaker 2: It is eighteen minutes to twelve. We've got new music

1978
01:46:12,053 --> 01:46:13,213
Speaker 2: from Young Franco for.

1979
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Speaker 1: You next, giving you the inside scoop on All you

1980
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Speaker 1: Need to Know Saturday Mornings with Jack Tame and bfewre

1981
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Speaker 1: dot co dot nz for high quality Supplements US talks.

1982
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Speaker 10: Be absolutely alone. This is cool.

1983
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Speaker 2: Ay Oh, I like that. It's called Sunrise. It's by

1984
01:46:49,613 --> 01:46:52,933
Speaker 2: Young Franco and it features Moroki. You know Moroki Kiwi

1985
01:46:52,973 --> 01:46:59,253
Speaker 2: Muso Moroki. Yeah, that's very kind of chazy. His new album, well,

1986
01:46:59,293 --> 01:47:03,093
Speaker 2: Young Franco's new album is called It's Frankie Baby and

1987
01:47:03,413 --> 01:47:07,293
Speaker 2: Estelle Clifford our Music Review has been listening Gelawda whatever.

1988
01:47:07,533 --> 01:47:10,693
Speaker 24: It's like a great stage, it's frank Hair bow Man

1989
01:47:11,173 --> 01:47:14,373
Speaker 24: coming on, jazz hands kind of styles and great single

1990
01:47:14,413 --> 01:47:14,853
Speaker 24: to start with.

1991
01:47:14,973 --> 01:47:16,453
Speaker 9: So that's actually how.

1992
01:47:16,333 --> 01:47:19,853
Speaker 24: The album ends with Sunrise, and it's got that beachy

1993
01:47:20,053 --> 01:47:21,533
Speaker 24: jazz anthem kind of.

1994
01:47:21,493 --> 01:47:23,693
Speaker 2: Sound, sort of Brazilian almost, you know.

1995
01:47:24,293 --> 01:47:27,453
Speaker 24: Yeah, actually, And I think that's what's really awesome when

1996
01:47:27,453 --> 01:47:30,653
Speaker 24: you get an album from a DJ producer is that

1997
01:47:30,693 --> 01:47:34,373
Speaker 24: you get all kinds of styles in one album. And

1998
01:47:34,453 --> 01:47:36,853
Speaker 24: I really felt like I needed something kind of upbeat

1999
01:47:37,013 --> 01:47:40,173
Speaker 24: and partyish and summary and that is exactly what he's

2000
01:47:40,173 --> 01:47:42,173
Speaker 24: managed to do on this album, because you'll have that

2001
01:47:42,253 --> 01:47:45,933
Speaker 24: kind of beachy jazz morockey's voice sounding all amounts of awesome,

2002
01:47:46,733 --> 01:47:49,733
Speaker 24: and then you'll have artists like on the opening track

2003
01:47:50,413 --> 01:47:54,173
Speaker 24: where it's real you know, the band the Streets or

2004
01:47:54,253 --> 01:47:58,453
Speaker 24: maybe gorillas like that kind of spoken kind of singing.

2005
01:47:59,293 --> 01:48:01,453
Speaker 24: It's called wake Up, and it's a real good like

2006
01:48:01,693 --> 01:48:05,053
Speaker 24: power into the album. It makes me think of the

2007
01:48:05,053 --> 01:48:08,933
Speaker 24: in between us. Yeah, yeah, which you know there was

2008
01:48:08,933 --> 01:48:13,173
Speaker 24: a time ode, but the real punchy speaking, almost.

2009
01:48:12,893 --> 01:48:13,853
Speaker 9: Rap kind of style.

2010
01:48:14,093 --> 01:48:14,933
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2011
01:48:14,973 --> 01:48:17,853
Speaker 9: I actually looked the word for that jack for speak singing.

2012
01:48:18,253 --> 01:48:19,333
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what is it?

2013
01:48:19,333 --> 01:48:20,813
Speaker 9: It's sprit guzang.

2014
01:48:22,293 --> 01:48:24,573
Speaker 2: That's one of those German words. I feel like the

2015
01:48:24,573 --> 01:48:27,533
Speaker 2: Germans got words for everything, right, don't they ever. They've

2016
01:48:27,533 --> 01:48:29,293
Speaker 2: got like a word for the feeling when you put

2017
01:48:29,293 --> 01:48:31,253
Speaker 2: your hand in a in a like a grain of

2018
01:48:31,573 --> 01:48:33,653
Speaker 2: in a sack of grain. Oh yes, that.

2019
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Speaker 24: Kind of yeah, yeah, but it sounds exactly like what

2020
01:48:35,773 --> 01:48:40,253
Speaker 24: it is Frigersang's speaking sing cool, but just put one

2021
01:48:40,413 --> 01:48:42,973
Speaker 24: on it and then it sounds fairly confident.

2022
01:48:43,013 --> 01:48:44,813
Speaker 2: I got You can buy like a book of them,

2023
01:48:44,853 --> 01:48:46,573
Speaker 2: and I feel like confident I got it for my

2024
01:48:46,693 --> 01:48:47,733
Speaker 2: dad for Christmas one.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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01:48:48,133 --> 01:48:50,213
Speaker 9: Yeah, that sounds like a dead girl. Yeah, you'll get

2027
01:48:50,213 --> 01:48:50,973
Speaker 9: it one day.

2028
01:48:51,893 --> 01:48:52,253
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2029
01:48:52,293 --> 01:48:53,133
Speaker 9: And this is great.

2030
01:48:53,173 --> 01:48:55,653
Speaker 24: So there's that kind of real punchy stuff. It's really

2031
01:48:55,893 --> 01:48:59,733
Speaker 24: R and B hip hop influenced. There's the electro dance thing,

2032
01:48:59,733 --> 01:49:02,733
Speaker 24: which I think is what Young Franco was kind of.

2033
01:49:02,693 --> 01:49:04,733
Speaker 9: Known for anyway on his sets that he.

2034
01:49:04,733 --> 01:49:06,173
Speaker 2: Does in his shows.

2035
01:49:06,573 --> 01:49:09,653
Speaker 24: But this has got this real international feel because he

2036
01:49:09,773 --> 01:49:13,653
Speaker 24: has used the featured artists and their kind of genre

2037
01:49:13,853 --> 01:49:16,933
Speaker 24: or where they come from to really create this music,

2038
01:49:17,013 --> 01:49:19,813
Speaker 24: which yeah, again, it just means that right throughout the

2039
01:49:19,813 --> 01:49:23,493
Speaker 24: album you're never getting anything that's the same and identical,

2040
01:49:23,573 --> 01:49:26,573
Speaker 24: and a really cool way to lean into those featured artists,

2041
01:49:26,653 --> 01:49:28,973
Speaker 24: a lot of them. It's I think he's getting quite

2042
01:49:28,973 --> 01:49:32,733
Speaker 24: renowned on the circuit, especially in the UK, where he

2043
01:49:32,773 --> 01:49:34,573
Speaker 24: can kind of like to stalk someone and know they're

2044
01:49:34,573 --> 01:49:37,373
Speaker 24: in town and then message them and be like, hey,

2045
01:49:37,373 --> 01:49:40,373
Speaker 24: would you like to come into the studio for and

2046
01:49:40,453 --> 01:49:44,093
Speaker 24: put some vocals down or put your kind of version

2047
01:49:44,173 --> 01:49:46,773
Speaker 24: of production onto the song, And that's kind of a

2048
01:49:46,853 --> 01:49:48,653
Speaker 24: lot of what this album is based on.

2049
01:49:48,773 --> 01:49:50,493
Speaker 2: It's quite smart, it's.

2050
01:49:50,413 --> 01:49:53,533
Speaker 24: Really smart, and it's fun, Like there's some real stump

2051
01:49:53,653 --> 01:49:54,973
Speaker 24: like this as a standout.

2052
01:49:54,973 --> 01:49:56,093
Speaker 9: It's one of my favorites.

2053
01:49:56,213 --> 01:50:02,213
Speaker 24: It's got vocals from Grammy nominated Carlow and her vocals

2054
01:50:02,213 --> 01:50:05,853
Speaker 24: on Man, it's just so commanding and strong, and it's

2055
01:50:05,853 --> 01:50:06,933
Speaker 24: got like a Mary J.

2056
01:50:07,093 --> 01:50:08,173
Speaker 9: Blige sort of.

2057
01:50:10,173 --> 01:50:12,733
Speaker 24: But real sharp at the same time. And I think

2058
01:50:12,773 --> 01:50:16,333
Speaker 24: that's also his production that comes in underneath it. But yeah,

2059
01:50:16,373 --> 01:50:20,013
Speaker 24: for me, it was a standout. Then you've got give praise,

2060
01:50:20,053 --> 01:50:22,253
Speaker 24: Give thanks. That's a big single that's doing quite well

2061
01:50:22,253 --> 01:50:24,533
Speaker 24: at the moment, and it's real reggae and fused drum

2062
01:50:24,533 --> 01:50:28,773
Speaker 24: and bass. General Levy is the guy who does the vocals,

2063
01:50:28,773 --> 01:50:31,893
Speaker 24: and he does that cool reggae vibration riff thing with

2064
01:50:31,973 --> 01:50:34,653
Speaker 24: his voice.

2065
01:50:35,373 --> 01:50:36,253
Speaker 9: Don't make me to it.

2066
01:50:38,413 --> 01:50:38,773
Speaker 10: Reggae.

2067
01:50:39,573 --> 01:50:42,213
Speaker 24: It's this rattling role kind of thing with a trail

2068
01:50:42,253 --> 01:50:44,933
Speaker 24: a whole lot of vocals and you're like, how are

2069
01:50:44,973 --> 01:50:48,213
Speaker 24: you breathing and making that noise at the same time.

2070
01:50:48,413 --> 01:50:49,573
Speaker 9: See, that's going to make you have to go and

2071
01:50:49,573 --> 01:50:50,013
Speaker 9: listen to it.

2072
01:50:50,133 --> 01:50:51,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am, so you can get what I'm thinking.

2073
01:50:52,613 --> 01:50:55,093
Speaker 24: It was really good Daydreaming, which.

2074
01:50:54,853 --> 01:50:56,093
Speaker 9: We're going to play a little bit of.

2075
01:50:56,253 --> 01:51:00,813
Speaker 24: It's got this disco funk, real sliding bass, but a

2076
01:51:00,853 --> 01:51:04,013
Speaker 24: strong piano melody in it, and he says it's all

2077
01:51:04,013 --> 01:51:06,293
Speaker 24: about being lost in the beauty and awe of the world,

2078
01:51:07,133 --> 01:51:09,453
Speaker 24: which also is kind of like a really good way

2079
01:51:09,453 --> 01:51:10,333
Speaker 24: of looking at his album.

2080
01:51:10,333 --> 01:51:11,573
Speaker 9: You sort of get lost in.

2081
01:51:11,613 --> 01:51:17,253
Speaker 24: The the variations and the quite punchy sort of production

2082
01:51:17,373 --> 01:51:19,413
Speaker 24: that's behind a lot of these and like I say,

2083
01:51:19,453 --> 01:51:23,213
Speaker 24: you can go real cruisy, beachy, but then these real standout,

2084
01:51:23,253 --> 01:51:26,133
Speaker 24: sort of hip hop le tracks. I just think it's

2085
01:51:26,173 --> 01:51:29,733
Speaker 24: really fun for that, Like I feel really uplifted by it.

2086
01:51:29,813 --> 01:51:32,533
Speaker 24: I think he's got a really beautiful energy about him.

2087
01:51:32,733 --> 01:51:34,533
Speaker 24: Here's a bit of a throwback, like there's a ninety

2088
01:51:34,573 --> 01:51:36,653
Speaker 24: nostalgic sing it back.

2089
01:51:37,133 --> 01:51:38,933
Speaker 2: You can think of that before.

2090
01:51:42,653 --> 01:51:47,933
Speaker 24: It's such a catchy little gem.

2091
01:51:46,493 --> 01:51:47,893
Speaker 9: And Don william Yeah, you got it.

2092
01:51:48,453 --> 01:51:48,933
Speaker 2: That's gonna be.

2093
01:51:50,853 --> 01:51:53,573
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Daniel Williams voice on that. So it was just.

2094
01:51:57,933 --> 01:52:00,893
Speaker 2: It's all right, you justs that's all right.

2095
01:52:01,653 --> 01:52:04,693
Speaker 24: It's a it's an album where he's like made connections

2096
01:52:04,773 --> 01:52:06,653
Speaker 24: and then he's just started to use the is to

2097
01:52:06,693 --> 01:52:08,893
Speaker 24: help inspire his music. And I feel like it's an

2098
01:52:08,933 --> 01:52:12,093
Speaker 24: album you can put on lots because of the variation

2099
01:52:12,173 --> 01:52:13,613
Speaker 24: that you've got in it, and there'll be some that

2100
01:52:13,773 --> 01:52:16,133
Speaker 24: maybe are your real jam and if you're not really

2101
01:52:16,213 --> 01:52:18,813
Speaker 24: into R and B or hip hop, you know, that's

2102
01:52:18,853 --> 01:52:20,533
Speaker 24: okay because there's only one or two tracks and you

2103
01:52:20,573 --> 01:52:22,733
Speaker 24: go on to the next track, but kind of sit

2104
01:52:22,773 --> 01:52:24,213
Speaker 24: with it for a bit because some of those ones

2105
01:52:24,213 --> 01:52:26,813
Speaker 24: that are a bit like jarish at first have ended

2106
01:52:26,853 --> 01:52:28,053
Speaker 24: up being kind of my favorites.

2107
01:52:28,213 --> 01:52:29,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, because it.

2108
01:52:29,733 --> 01:52:32,253
Speaker 24: Mixes with those styles and genres, and I'm quite yeah,

2109
01:52:32,293 --> 01:52:34,213
Speaker 24: it's nice to hear all of it in one big album.

2110
01:52:34,613 --> 01:52:37,173
Speaker 2: Cool sounds like it sounds cool in every sense. Sounds

2111
01:52:37,213 --> 01:52:42,693
Speaker 2: like like producer Libby is quite judgmental about music, and

2112
01:52:42,733 --> 01:52:44,453
Speaker 2: you know, because she's a you know, she's GenZ and

2113
01:52:44,493 --> 01:52:46,853
Speaker 2: so I just I'll make sure that I have this,

2114
01:52:46,973 --> 01:52:48,933
Speaker 2: like you know, if I drive past her, I'll make

2115
01:52:48,933 --> 01:52:52,173
Speaker 2: sure I'm playing with on the stereo creed. But at

2116
01:52:52,173 --> 01:52:54,493
Speaker 2: the same time, it does sound like I might actually enjoy.

2117
01:52:54,293 --> 01:52:55,973
Speaker 24: It, and you might sound like you've been th rhythm

2118
01:52:56,013 --> 01:52:59,533
Speaker 24: and vine yes Litlapalooza or exactly Slender in the Grass,

2119
01:52:59,533 --> 01:53:00,173
Speaker 24: those kind.

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Speaker 2: Of exactly exactly. No, it's just so really good. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm listening. I'm looking forward to to listen to ittle

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Speaker 2: bit more, So, what did you give it?

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Speaker 9: It's a great weekend album as an eight out.

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Speaker 2: Of five eight out of five.

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Speaker 10: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Five, that's saying it's definitely, I mean a half.

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Speaker 9: Eight point five. I'm trying to say eight point five.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what it's like when people say, oh,

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Speaker 2: we're giving You know, when you hear athletes and they say, oh,

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Speaker 2: we gave one hundred and ten percent. Yes, it drives

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Speaker 2: me nuts when people say that, because I'm like, you can't.

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Speaker 2: You cannot give more than one hundred percent. You cannot,

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Speaker 2: you know. New ratings eight out of five, eight out

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Speaker 2: of five. There you go, very good.

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Speaker 9: I listen to music, but I can't always speak words

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Speaker 9: or numbers.

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Speaker 2: Hey I can't sing. We'll get our limitations. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much. A Stelle. I'm eight out of ten for

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Speaker 2: Young Franco's new album, It's Frankie Baby. We're gonna have

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Speaker 2: a bit more of a listening to a couple of

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Speaker 2: minutes right now. It is eight to five. Now, it's

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Speaker 2: eight to twelve on News Talk CB.

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Speaker 2: It is six minutes to twelve, which means I have

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Speaker 2: to get a rigg ale on so that Jason Pine

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Speaker 2: can prepare for weekend sport. He's with us right after

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Speaker 2: the midday news augand FC coach Steve Corriker is going

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Speaker 2: to be his interview to kick off the show this

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Speaker 2: Libby for doing all the difficult things for us this

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Speaker 2: morning and for guiding my musical tastes. Speaking of musical tastes,

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Speaker 2: I reckon this is one for all of us. Young

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Speaker 2: Franco is his name. He's an Aussie DJ. His new

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Speaker 2: album is called It's Frankie Baby. This song is called Daydreaming.

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Speaker 2: I will see you next week.

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Speaker 11: Last of the Wild, Last of.

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Speaker 25: The Wild, I can be all the things to trump

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Speaker 25: best to keep its feel.

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Speaker 5: Trifted into the slip Street, come back on a cold,

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Speaker 5: get that.

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Speaker 10: Up the control Hut.

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Speaker 20: But the sting.

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Speaker 8: Behind miss.

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Speaker 10: And the start to find HM time.

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Speaker 11: Last in a While Day Back in the Wild.

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