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Speaker 2: Well you welcome today, Tannavi, the Greens and Court. What's

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Speaker 2: that about the education Minister on my so few of

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Speaker 2: our kids seemed to be able to pass an exam.

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Speaker 2: Elise Andrews jro Provider tell us what it's like to

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Speaker 2: be a gold medal winner several times over. Joe McKenna

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Speaker 2: is in Italy and Inder Brady lines up the UK

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Speaker 2: for As says Pask from the first day, seven past six,

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Speaker 2: I tell you what you can see, the mumblings around

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Speaker 2: the future and why the mumblings around the future of

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Speaker 2: Chrishipkins's leader have started a labour. Have added to their

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Speaker 2: problems this week with a social media post from David Parker,

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Speaker 2: wittering on about his tax stream capital gains tax. Get

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Speaker 2: all those rich bastards lined up and raid their pockets.

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Speaker 2: It's a sorry old state they find themselves in the

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Speaker 2: power crisis of courses and the dea of sorts. The

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Speaker 2: cold hard reality of their policies have come home to

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Speaker 2: roost for us and haunt them I mean, you can

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Speaker 2: argue the same around the economy. I suppose in general,

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Speaker 2: their COVID approach three recessions and two years, a record

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Speaker 2: unmatched by anyone I can find. Is pretty damning for

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Speaker 2: a government that spent six years basically wrecking the place.

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Speaker 2: But the power is indisputable. We have no gas because

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Speaker 2: we haven't looked for any because they closed it down.

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Speaker 2: The lack of rain or wind isn't their fault, but

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Speaker 2: price is up and some people can't pay it, and

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Speaker 2: It goes to credibility they have none, and now tax

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Speaker 2: if labor go to the next election, let me tell

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Speaker 2: you this for nothing. If they go to the next

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Speaker 2: twofold problem. One the recent memory of their performance and

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Speaker 2: government still fresh in voters' minds, and two a new

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Speaker 2: idea being we will tax you some more for good measure.

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Speaker 2: They will of course be facing a government that has

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Speaker 2: economy with some real steam driving it. If Hipkins makes

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Speaker 2: it that far, his vision will seem so weird, so

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Speaker 2: out of touch, so ideologically mad. He will not only lose,

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Speaker 2: but quite possibly lose badly. So you can't hide your past.

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Speaker 2: You can hope that people forget, and time does help that.

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Speaker 2: But if more taxes their calling cout for twenty six

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Speaker 1: Who news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of labor, the new British Prime Minister is nothing

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Speaker 2: but not busy. Fallout from his budget's feet yesterday. Our

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Speaker 2: speech yesterday sees the Chancellor of this morning fending off

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Speaker 3: We're going to have to make difficult decisions in a

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Speaker 2: Labour seen the same all over the world, don't they

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Speaker 2: While she's dodging these starmers left off to Berlin to

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Speaker 2: But I don't freak out about.

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Speaker 4: Brixit reset with Europe, a reset with the EU. That

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Speaker 2: Trust them on that. Also in the UK some concern

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Speaker 8: Look, they were weaponizing government against me. They brought in

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Speaker 2: So he's blaming Harris and Biden for getting shot. Finally,

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Speaker 2: Hong Kong's Education Bureau, they got a new sex education

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Speaker 2: It is suggesting that teenagers go out to play badminton

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Speaker 2: It be Warren Buffet's about to turn ninety four in

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Speaker 2: a couple of days. He's Berkshire Hathaway. Of course. Berkshire

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Speaker 2: And jobs like, don't they are war worst Supermarket's not

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Speaker 12: Wage costs have increased nineteen percent over the past two years.

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Speaker 12: That increases much higher than what they've seen in sales growth.

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Speaker 12: Normalized sales go to one point three percent. They did

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Speaker 12: I would make the comment, however, Mike, if New Zealand

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Speaker 2: I need some numbers.

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Speaker 12: Oh, give me those. So we're all sitting here waiting

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Speaker 2: I FBI have just announced this is really the shooting

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Speaker 2: out and the blaze with Gloria. I don't know there's

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Speaker 1: Next, You're trusted of whose thought entertainment's opinion? And Mike

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Speaker 2: That was a resignation moment last night. We go back

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Speaker 15: To you, Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Does this take the fear that we've seen in the

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Speaker 2: Right, So when I get texts like this, Mike the

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Speaker 15: These are two different things. Unfortunately, the on ols and

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Speaker 15: That's all part of the RMA Part six. Now we

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Speaker 2: Which leads me to then ask how tied up is

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Speaker 15: What I'm doing is fixing the National Policy Statement and

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Speaker 15: our farmers are pretty world leading in terms of what

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Speaker 2: Well said Andrew Hogarp, the Associate Environment Minister with US

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Speaker 2: of councils and pushback, Northern Regional Council of the latest

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Speaker 2: and this is where it's trouble. That's why I asked

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Speaker 2: Andrew what I asked them. They also agreed to have

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Speaker 2: Silly time join m Kinny. Good morning, Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: So the yacht disaster we uncover that extensively last week.

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Speaker 2: It still continues on Cutfield won't answer questions and they've

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Speaker 2: broadened the investigation.

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Speaker 11: That's right.

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Speaker 18: There are now two other crew members under investigation, Tim

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Speaker 18: Parker Eaton, a British engineer, and sailor Matthew Griffiths, who

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Speaker 18: was reportedly on watch on the night that that luxury

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Speaker 18: yacht sank off the coast of Porticello. So those three

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Speaker 18: are really being targeted by the prosecutors. James Cutfield, the

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Speaker 18: New Zealander, now has two Italian lawyers who are advising him,

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Speaker 18: and some of the Italian reports are saying he's terribly

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Speaker 18: upset as you can imagine, and has even been in

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Speaker 18: tears during the interrogations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not surprised. How long does this knowing the

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Speaker 2: wheels of justice grind Philly slowly in Italy, how long

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Speaker 2: do you reckon all of this is eventually going.

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Speaker 18: To take well, it could take some time, particularly because

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Speaker 18: the yacht needs to be selvage, it needs to be

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Speaker 18: brought to the surface. Before they do that, they have

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Speaker 18: to secure the fuel supplies to make sure there's no leakage.

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Speaker 18: That could take several weeks, and I'm going on what

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Speaker 18: happened with the cost of Concordia. You might remember back

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Speaker 18: in twenty twelve it took I think eleven months before

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Speaker 18: formal charges were laid against Captain Francesco Scatino.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now Meloni's back from holidays. This where she's steering

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Speaker 2: into a camera doing the video. I looked it up immediately,

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Speaker 2: but of course she's speaking Italian, and my Italian's no good.

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Speaker 2: Therefore I had no idea what she was saying.

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Speaker 11: Well, I just thought it looked a bit strange.

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Speaker 18: She looked like she was coming back from a party,

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Speaker 18: and she started off by saying, hi here I am.

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Speaker 18: I'm back, very chatty, very lively, dressed in a beautiful

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Speaker 18: yellow shirt, with a big smile.

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Speaker 11: But she did say I've been I've had.

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Speaker 18: My batteries recharge, and I'm ready to get to work.

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Speaker 18: So she's got plenty ahead of her with a budget

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Speaker 18: and some regional elections coming up, so.

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Speaker 2: She'll be busy, fantastic and then speak. We're having, interestingly enough,

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Speaker 2: the same sort of debate here regional autonomy, so the

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Speaker 2: government are looking at doing deals with local councils. They've

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Speaker 2: got no money, they want to do stuff. They go, well,

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Speaker 2: look you, if you agree to cap rates and do

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Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff, we can help you out

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Speaker 2: on some of the bigger projects. Is that the sort

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Speaker 2: of thing autonomy means in Italy.

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Speaker 11: This is about regional autonomy. It's a push by the.

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Speaker 18: Arguably wealthier regions in the north of Italy. They want

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Speaker 18: more control over their taxes.

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Speaker 11: And where their money goes.

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Speaker 18: And they're not really saying it publicly, but they don't

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Speaker 18: want their money and their taxes going to support the

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Speaker 18: poorer people in the south. What we're seeing is a

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Speaker 18: pushback from this federal move which has been approved in

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Speaker 18: the Parliament. Now the Campania region around Naples has filed

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Speaker 18: an appeal saying that this is illegal and so it's

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Speaker 18: far from over yet this fight.

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Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of the South, you're getting some late summer heat.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, we had a bit of a breather last week, Mike,

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Speaker 18: and now the heat waivers coming back in thirty five

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Speaker 18: thirty six degrees in Rome and Florence, and we've hot

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Speaker 18: We've got heat warnings for Thursday and many parts of

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Speaker 18: the country.

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Speaker 2: Jee, And what can you report on your health? Joe?

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Speaker 18: I notice you would think I was in the middle

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Speaker 18: of winter. I've got some sort of summer cold that's

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Speaker 18: been running around Rome.

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Speaker 2: Dear, will you rest up? And well we'll look forward

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Speaker 2: to catching up with the next Thursday. Let's shouted very much.

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Speaker 2: Tim Parker Eaton, by the way, it's understood to have

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Speaker 2: been in charge. These are the blokes on the yacht.

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Speaker 2: Tim Parker Eaton's understood to have been in charge of

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Speaker 2: adequately securing the yacht's engine room and the operational systems. Meantime.

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Speaker 2: Matthew Griffith, he was on watch duty during the night,

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Speaker 2: so some questions to be answered there. Man away from

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Speaker 2: seven all.

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Speaker 1: The my costume breakfast with these dogs.

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Speaker 2: They'd be Will you give you an insight into what

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Speaker 2: happens to power prices When you've got the ability to

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Speaker 2: actually produce power at a reasonable level, Inflation goes down

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Speaker 2: and prices go down so astraightly. Yesterday inflation rate down

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Speaker 2: to three point five percent from three point eight, so

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Speaker 2: it's falling in the right direction. Biggest drop that drove

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Speaker 2: the low inflation prices was, of course they drop and

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Speaker 2: electricity prices. Let me repeat that. The drop in electricity prices,

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Speaker 2: they fell. Let me repeat the word fell by six

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Speaker 2: and a half per seat last month. And that's what

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Speaker 2: happens when you do it properly, Mike. I thought the

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Speaker 2: government was going to allow the voters to decide on

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Speaker 2: whether or not councils would allow non elected marriy seats

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Speaker 2: on councils. Yes and no. What they've done is change

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Speaker 2: the law. If you're not up on this is councils

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Speaker 2: can decide whether they won go to the people next

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Speaker 2: year as part of the local body elections. Some are,

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Speaker 2: some aren't, and if they're not going to don't want to,

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Speaker 2: they simply drop the seat. They will no longer have

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Speaker 2: a seat. So the government's given them the option work

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Speaker 2: it out for yourself. Either drop the seat or if

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Speaker 2: you insist on trying to have a seat, you've got

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Speaker 2: to go and ask the people. So that's going on

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Speaker 2: literally at the moment, which is why I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: keep you updated on an almost daily basis as various

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Speaker 2: councils decide, but not all councils go the same route,

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Speaker 2: so it depends on where you are. Five away from seven.

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Speaker 16: Polly Ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: You insight this wanting into our habits. When it comes

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Speaker 2: to mortgages and refinancing, we're shopping around, which is good.

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Speaker 2: Reserve Bank data this is shows the value of lending

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Speaker 2: that's refinanced by a new bank has gone up to

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Speaker 2: one point seventy five billion dollars in July. Now that

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Speaker 2: is the largest amount since at least twenty seventeen. It

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Speaker 2: accounts for twenty six percent of all new lending during

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Speaker 2: the month. So we are shopping around. You see this

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Speaker 2: whole ComCom report about no competition, follocks, We're out there

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Speaker 2: shopping around. And what's driving it is, Oh dear, what's

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Speaker 2: driving it? Well, according to the mortgage brokers, banks are

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Speaker 2: working harder to attract new customers with more than just

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Speaker 2: interest rates. I'm thinking that's called Now, hang on, what's

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Speaker 2: it called our competition? So we're talking about cash contributions,

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Speaker 2: furniture vouchers. More and more people are taking shorter term

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Speaker 2: deals as well, six and one month terms. I mean,

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Speaker 2: why wouldn't it at the moment, because you know what's

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Speaker 2: happening longer terms, so lock it up for a short

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Speaker 2: period of time, a year's time. Who knows where we're

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Speaker 2: going to be. June last year, fifty two percent of

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Speaker 2: mortgage debt was due to be repriced within a year

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Speaker 2: Dune this year, that's now risen to sixty four percent

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Speaker 2: because we're in a fairly fluid old head at the moment.

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Speaker 2: But that would, on the surface anyway, indicate that people

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Speaker 2: are moving about, shopping about, and there is some good

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Speaker 2: deals to be had, and that is what the banking

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Speaker 2: sector should all be about as opposed to the Commcom.

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Speaker 2: He says, we need to turbocharge key, we bank and

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Speaker 2: do all sorts of other weird and wonderful things. Andrew

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Speaker 2: get is one of the great legal minds of this country,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to need them because I can't work

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Speaker 2: Darlene Tanner out, can you? I mean, when Darlene rings

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Speaker 2: you up, if you're a lawyer and ghalla, it's Darlene

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Speaker 2: Tanner here. Do you go I'm busy at the moment,

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Speaker 2: or do you take the case. Somebody's taken the case

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Speaker 2: and they're off to court this morning for a review

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Speaker 2: into whether the Greens can have this meeting. She doesn't

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Speaker 2: want a party she doesn't belong to to have a

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Speaker 2: meeting on Sunday, and we're going to argue about that

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Speaker 2: in court. And you wonder why the wheels of justice

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Speaker 2: turned so slowly? Eh? Andrew Getters is after the news, which.

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Speaker 19: Is next.

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Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk to,

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Speaker 1: like my costing breakfast with Bailey's real estate. Your local

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Speaker 1: experts across residential, commercial and rural news talk said be.

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Speaker 2: Only seven past seven. Other twist in the Greens Tana saga.

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Speaker 15: We are being.

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Speaker 20: Careful about the statements that we are making publicly.

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Speaker 21: The best way to minimize all further harm and any

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Speaker 21: further collateral damage is for Darling Tanner to take accountability

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Speaker 21: and responsibility and to resign.

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Speaker 2: She's gone and applied for an interim injunction to stop

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Speaker 2: the party meeting this weekend. Asn't the Green Party. University

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Speaker 2: of Battago law professor Andrew geddis with us on this morning.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, good morning.

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Speaker 2: You might just work me through a layman's view of this.

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Speaker 2: She isn't in a party. How can a person go

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Speaker 2: to court to ask somebody to do something that they're

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Speaker 2: not even a part of that doesn't seem to make

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Speaker 2: any sense to me.

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Speaker 13: Well, that'll be what they'll be trying to convince a

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Speaker 13: court text even listen to. So she's resigned from the party,

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Speaker 13: but she's asking the court to tell the party they're

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Speaker 13: not allowed to have a meeting where the party will

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Speaker 13: discuss whether or not she should be kicked out of Parliament.

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Speaker 13: I could only assume she's to ide something along the

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Speaker 13: lines or she says a right to natural justice that

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Speaker 13: she should be able to be heard at that meeting.

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Speaker 13: But that's a real stretch. I find it very hard

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Speaker 13: to see how she's going to make that stand up.

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Speaker 2: Is this what you call in the Legal Fraternity novel?

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Speaker 13: Yes, yep, yep, it's great. It's There have been cases

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Speaker 13: before where MPs have gone to court to try to

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Speaker 13: establish their cases in front of with regards to their party.

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Speaker 13: Winston Peters did it with a national party, but this

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Speaker 13: one where you're not even a party member and you're

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Speaker 13: challenging the party's actions. Never seen it before.

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Speaker 2: Also, that we don't need a meeting to talk about

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Speaker 2: the walker jumping law because that's a parliamentary thing, isn't it.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, exactly, So the meeting in the weekend is basically

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Speaker 13: the Greens giving themselves political cover to say hey, hey, hey,

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Speaker 13: the membership are happy for us.

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Speaker 17: To do this.

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Speaker 13: It's not actually a part of the legal process to

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Speaker 13: get it kicked out of parliament. So, yeah, she's trying

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Speaker 13: to stop it because without the meeting, the Greens don't

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Speaker 13: have that political cover. It'll be hard for them to

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Speaker 13: practically use the law. But in terms of actual legal steps,

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Speaker 13: it's not necessary.

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Speaker 2: Could she if she can get to court about a meeting,

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Speaker 2: Can she get to court about a parliamentary move even

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Speaker 2: when that walker jumping law is and vote.

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Speaker 13: That will be trickier for her because the actual parliamentary

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Speaker 13: side of it, the the giving of a notice to

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Speaker 13: the Speaker to actually trigger the law. Because that occurs

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Speaker 13: within parliament, it may well be covered by parliamentary privilege,

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Speaker 13: so the courts might actually be blocked from looking at that.

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Speaker 13: This might be her attempt to get something in front

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Speaker 13: of the court before it gets into the parliamentary realm.

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Speaker 2: Okay, her chances are what apart from zero?

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Speaker 13: Well, yeah, we lawyer loyally types are always very reluctant

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Speaker 13: to say never, But I would say virtually never. In

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Speaker 13: this case, I just can't see how she's going to

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Speaker 13: make this.

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Speaker 22: Lily me neither.

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Speaker 2: All right, appreciate your expertise, Andrew, get us with us

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Speaker 2: this morning, nine and it's past seven. Game Mike, come

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Speaker 2: out of miss this. But do we have a defendived

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Speaker 2: answer as to who's paying for Darlingtown as fast? No,

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Speaker 2: So the Greens are doing it pro bono. We're having

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Speaker 2: it done pro bono. Darlene's either paying it for herself

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Speaker 2: or they found a lawyer who will do it for nothing. Now,

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Speaker 2: got some big picture stuff from the government yesterday. Of course,

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Speaker 2: we are to have a National Infrastructure Agency. It'll bring

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Speaker 2: together partners and crownd the whole idea of some sort

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Speaker 2: of framework, thirty year plan all that. Northern Infrastructure Forum

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Speaker 2: Executive Director Barney Irvine with us on this Barney morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, sounds good, is it real?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, Well, look it's still very much at the conceptual stage.

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Speaker 19: A lot of this and there's a lot of order

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Speaker 19: to flow under the bridge and a lot of detail

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Speaker 19: to be filled in there. But look, the key thing

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Speaker 19: for us is that it takes things in the right

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Speaker 19: direction in terms of, you know, taking us towards more

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Speaker 19: robust decision making based on outcomes rather than politics, towards

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Speaker 19: providing the market with the clarity and the consistency it

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Speaker 19: needs to see, and towards driving better, faster, cheaper infrastructure

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Speaker 19: delivery right across the board.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. See, once again, that all sounds good. But the

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Speaker 2: difficulty I had, and Hipkins displayed it yesterday, is we

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Speaker 2: have a group of people who are diametrically opposed to

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Speaker 2: each other ideologically speaking on things like infrastructure in this country.

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Speaker 2: Unless you can close that gap, you're going nowhere fast?

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Speaker 2: Isn't that reasonable?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 19: Look absolutely? And you know therein realize the rub I

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Speaker 19: guess a couple of things, you know, give us a

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Speaker 19: bit of confidence with it, And one of those is

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Speaker 19: that this sort of approach has been been used off

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Speaker 19: offshore and overseas to do good effect in places like

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Speaker 19: Australia and the UK, and to an extent Denmark as well.

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Speaker 19: So you know what, why can't we at least, you know,

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Speaker 19: why can't we adopt that that sort of approach ourselves

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Speaker 19: and at least move things somewhat further forward. The other

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Speaker 19: comment I'd make is that you know, while we have

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Speaker 19: seen these these these big political divisions over infrastructure. I

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Speaker 19: don't think that's reallyct to the public mood. And I

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Speaker 19: think there's a lot more consensus among the public about

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Speaker 19: infrastructure and the vast majority of people just want to

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Speaker 19: see the governor of the day get on and do starts,

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Speaker 19: and so if the politicians tune in to that public mood,

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Speaker 19: I think that that that that that stands up in

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Speaker 19: pretty good stead to move ahead or to.

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Speaker 16: Move in this direction.

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Speaker 2: I like your optimism, Barney, go well with that. Barney Overn,

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Speaker 2: who's the Northern Infrastructure Forum, executive director of the Twelve

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Speaker 2: Minutes Past seven, flays me Michael descriptions can sound like

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Speaker 2: a big baby about Bishop's speech and by partisanship with infrastructure,

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Speaker 2: we won't do that, because yeah, that was what he

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Speaker 2: was saying yesterday. Well, the first thing that dam when

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Speaker 2: they got in the Pound, they cancel everything. So it's

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Speaker 2: got that and you've got to get across that hurdle.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't as big as problem. Yesterday's biggest problem was

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Speaker 2: Ginny Anderson, who just tried to deceive us all with

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Speaker 2: this business business of foot patrols. As far as the

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Speaker 2: police are concerned, the number of foot patrols is on

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Speaker 2: the rise.

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Speaker 11: I don't agree with your numbers.

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Speaker 2: So that wasn't the worst of it, because they got this.

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Speaker 2: This is old Benedict at tv I, who's built himself

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Speaker 2: up quite a reputation for being a bit pro labor,

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Speaker 2: but redeemed himself spectacularly yesterday. So it's official police data.

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Speaker 23: Of course, just because we see a spike in crime

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Speaker 23: as not a sufficient reason to say that there should

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Speaker 23: be fewer foot patrols.

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Speaker 2: So we tried again to point out that the foot

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Speaker 2: patrols are in fact up.

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Speaker 11: I don't agree.

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Speaker 2: And the best part about it was they held the

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Speaker 2: shot as she walked away from the microphone and she

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Speaker 2: was pissed off. Fifteen percent drop, she claimed between December

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Speaker 2: and June, numbers are actually on the rise, consistent seasonal

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Speaker 2: spike in numbers every December. So that's what she was

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Speaker 2: trying to pull the wool over your eyes with December.

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Speaker 2: It always goes up in December. It's Christmas holidays and December.

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Speaker 2: Hence it's up. Between December of twenty three and June

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Speaker 2: of twenty four, we've seen an increase of around ten percent.

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Speaker 2: Hepkins doubled down whether I don't think he knew at

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Speaker 2: that point should been caught out. So basically they were

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Speaker 2: lying to us, they were manipulating numbers, and it goes

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Speaker 2: it's one of a couple of things. Either they thought

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Speaker 2: that we couldn't be bothered looking and checking the figures,

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Speaker 2: or they hadn't checked the figures themselves, one or the other.

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Speaker 2: But fundamentally the problem is they got caught and they're lazy.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Mike Jinny's conclusions demonstrate why structured numerously is important. Very

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Speaker 2: good seventeen. Speaking of which, Erica Stamford, Education Minister after

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Speaker 2: seven thirty Tourism sector seventeen past seven Tourism sector, but

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Speaker 2: worried about this barrier to regrowing numbers post COVID because

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Speaker 2: the government currently considering the cost of our international visitor levy.

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Speaker 2: A couple of options out there. There's thirty five dollars,

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Speaker 2: fifty bucks, seventy dollars or one hundred dollars. Now the

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Speaker 2: claim is one hundred dollars could strip a quarter of

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Speaker 2: a billion dollars of visitors spending from the economy. The

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Speaker 2: Chief Executive of the Industry asciation Rebecca Ingram, is back. Well,

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Speaker 2: this Rebecca, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 14: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Any sense of where they sit thirty five, fifty, seventy

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Speaker 2: or one hundred, I.

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Speaker 14: Don't have a sense of where the government's assessing.

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Speaker 8: What.

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Speaker 14: What is the case now is that it's thirty five

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Speaker 14: dollars to day, So the international visibility is in place

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Speaker 14: at thirty five dollars and is delivering some benefits. My

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Speaker 14: concern is that it could be lifting as high as

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Speaker 14: one hundred dollars per person, and that, as you said,

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Speaker 14: would strip an enormous amount of money out of the

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Speaker 14: economy and our assessment what means in real terms, because

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Speaker 14: it's quite hard when you're thinking about really big numbers,

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Speaker 14: right tur hundred and seventy million dollars, what that actually mean?

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Speaker 14: What it's seven hundred and forty eight thousand dollars a

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Speaker 14: day of visitor spends that New Zealand might not be

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Speaker 14: the beneficiary of.

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Speaker 2: Well, they would because doesn't it say it was one

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Speaker 2: hundred dollars. Doesn't a hundred dollars go into infrastructure for

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Speaker 2: the tourists and us all to enjoy.

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Speaker 24: Well, when people are.

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Speaker 14: Thinking about a holiday, thinking about affordable that holiday. One

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Speaker 14: hundred dollar IDL would go on top of the other

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Speaker 14: border fees and charges that visitors are paying. Recently, we've

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Speaker 14: seen visa fees go up, and so someone who requires

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Speaker 14: a visa coming to New Zealand and an IVL of

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Speaker 14: one hundred dollars would be paying five hundred dollars with

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Speaker 14: of visa fees and charges before they even spent a

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Speaker 14: dollar in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: How does that compare with other places? Are we expensive

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Speaker 2: at that level or not?

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Speaker 19: That would be.

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Speaker 14: Expensive And it also starts to put up barriers to

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Speaker 14: choosing New Zealand for the holiday. When people are thinking

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Speaker 14: about where they want to go on holiday, they're thinking

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Speaker 14: about all the different places in the world they've maybe

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Speaker 14: dreamt of going one day. They're tossing us up against

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Speaker 14: Switzerland and Japan and Canada and Australia. Then they're thinking

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Speaker 14: about their budget. Then they're looking at what they can afford.

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Speaker 14: And we think it's really important that tourism isn't disadvantage

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Speaker 14: by putting up barriers when those decisions are being made.

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Speaker 2: Moore having said that, I was of the view until

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Speaker 2: I had Grant Webster of Tourism holding on. I was

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Speaker 2: of the view, look, if you spending a couple of

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars coming from Britain, right, and you're going to

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Speaker 2: stay in a hotel and you're going to eat out

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Speaker 2: every night, and thinking, well, what's a couple hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: for visas? And yet he argues it's material, and you

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Speaker 2: would argue it's the same. It's a barrier.

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Speaker 14: It is material. It's when you are thinking about having

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Speaker 14: a holiday, you tend to have a budget. Some people

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Speaker 14: don't and it's lucky then, but most people do. And

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Speaker 14: when you're thinking about that budget, where do you want

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Speaker 14: it to be spent on experiences? How much money am

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Speaker 14: I going to have to do things to enjoy the

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Speaker 14: place I'm going to verse, border fees charges, translating visa content,

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Speaker 14: all of these things that are being put in place,

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Speaker 14: Suddenly other destinations might look more attractive to you. And

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Speaker 14: that's the thing I want is to be really mindful

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Speaker 14: of when these individual decisions are being made.

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Speaker 2: Well argued Rebecca, appreciate it. Rebecca Ingram tourism industry a

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Speaker 2: boss with this year the Education Minister on the business

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Speaker 2: of how we can't pass exams in this country, and

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Speaker 2: Fonterra is up to something really interesting, Sir Miles Hurrell,

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Speaker 2: who runs one Terra of course, as with us before

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Speaker 2: eight o'clock as well. I'm particularly looking forward to Elise

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Speaker 2: Andrews after eight Cyclist of course seven twenty.

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Speaker 19: Talks It be now.

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Speaker 2: Admin staff must get really tired of every second person

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Speaker 2: asking them, you know, where where's the lift or where's

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Speaker 2: the bathroom or how do I get out of the building.

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Speaker 2: So there's easy, fixed better signage solves that problem. Speedy Signs.

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Speaker 2: They're experts at this sort of stuff. It's not only

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Speaker 2: a wayfinding signage, of course that Speedy Signs can help with.

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Speaker 2: If you're like a fitness center, what about large format

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00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: images of superfit people. They're a great way to get

871
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: your clients inspired to exercise. If you're a school, how

872
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: about getting cultural artwork professionally printed and installed. Maybe your

873
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: business is open twenty four hours a day, so you'll

874
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: definitely need some signage that stands out in the dark

875
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: at night, like illuminated or eld the led signage. In fact,

876
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 2: whatever kind of signage. You need speedy signs there other people.

877
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: Speedy Signs have been around for more than twenty five years,

878
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: nearly thirty locations all over this beautiful country. So no

879
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: matter how big how small your business, they can help

880
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: people find you, and that's the important thing to find them.

881
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: Speedy Signs dot co, dot NZ or eight hundred Speedy

882
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 2: task eg TEM twenty four. We have I am reading

883
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: a green investment fund in this country. It's excited about

884
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: the money it's raised for solar energy. They work with

885
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: sub zero that's a provider to more than fifteen thousand systems.

886
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 2: The money has come from offshore. There are some very

887
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 2: big players looking to park their money into green stuff

888
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: these days. So so far they've raised three hundred and

889
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: sixty five million dollars. Now there's a key line that

890
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: if you're looking at this sort of thing objectively, you

891
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: would see as a bit of a red flag. See

892
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: these people hand out money for one a return on investment,

893
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with that, and two their own institutional objectives.

894
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: Now that's trendy talk for looking good, for corporate green washing,

895
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 2: for the ability to say to shareholders or governments or

896
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: the public, learn us look at our commitment to the

897
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: new green future. Now, the problem with solder is it

898
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: looks increasingly like a mess. Nothing wrong with harnessing the

899
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: sun to keep you lights on, but have a look

900
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 2: at whom the panels. Have a look at the market

901
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 2: for panels. Have a look at how many companies are

902
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: falling over because the market is festooned with panels. Look

903
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: at the role the Chinese are playing. Look at how

904
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: much trouble even the Chinese are having keeping their businesses

905
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: open given how many panels they have made. Have a

906
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: look at the geopolitical tensions around a market dumping, the

907
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: collapse of pricing. Have a look at the markets like Australia,

908
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 2: who once paid you for your power from your solar

909
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 2: panel and now they charge you. And once you've had

910
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: a look at all of that, then come back and

911
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: ask yourself whether throwing hundreds of millions of dollars at

912
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 2: a sector and a certain level of chaos is actually

913
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 2: a smart way to spend your money. Bandwagons are easy

914
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: to get on. Group think is easy to be a

915
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 2: part of. And this is not to say solar isn't

916
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 2: a half decent idea, or that decarbonization isn't at least

917
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: a part of the future. But the world is full

918
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: of fools and their money, and they're easily separated. And

919
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 2: sometimes they are separated for the wrong reasons, and sometimes

920
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 2: they are separated because they Well, what you thought was

921
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 2: a sure thing is actually a bust. Raising money sadly

922
00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: isn't hard, and that sometimes is actually the problem. Mike.

923
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: The levy won't have any bearing on a visitor's decision

924
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: to come to New Zealand whatsoever. Look at the current

925
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: tax you got to pay on your airline ticket leaving

926
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: the UK cost hundreds. The sort of tourists that's worried

927
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 2: about one hundred dollars is not the sort of tourists

928
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: we should be targeting, Mike. One hundred New Zealand is

929
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: fifty American or thirty pounds where cheap overseas for people, Mike,

930
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: I just came back from LA The hotel room charge

931
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: was one thousand dollars in New Zealand. On top there

932
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: was six different taxes and charges totaling two hundred and

933
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 2: sixty three dollars per night. That was my argument, But

934
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 2: I do about a people like Grant who's a tourism holding.

935
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: So I don't know I would have argued what you're arguing,

936
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: but maybe we don't. By the way, speaking of solar

937
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: and greenwashing, television program called Industry, if you've never caught

938
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: up on it, it's just dumped its third season here.

939
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 2: It's on Neon or Soho. It's pretty gritty, a lot

940
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 2: of sex, few drugs, but it's based on a trading

941
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: floor where people you know trade basically rich young palms.

942
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 2: Latest episode seems to be based on launch of a

943
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: green company who's basically full of it and all of

944
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: the corporate wealth that floods into the green market for

945
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: no particular reason other than it's a cool thing to do.

946
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: So it just dubtails him with what I was saying,

947
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 2: now to this business of NCA and the tests that

948
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: nobody can seem to pass, all the ones that do

949
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: very few of them. So the Education Minister Erica Stanford

950
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 2: with us on this directly after the news, which is

951
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: next on the mic, asking Breakfast.

952
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show You Can Trust, the Mike Hosking Breakfast

953
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: with Veda, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way News togs d B.

954
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: Now just to explain one more time and getting it

955
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: a feedback on this mic is e can. This is

956
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: the Canterbury Council of Courses. E can denying voters. This

957
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: is the whole business of Marie Wards. The government changing

958
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: the law et cetera is e can denying voters the

959
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: democratic process on whether or not to include non elected

960
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 2: Maori seats. I thought we were living in New Zealand,

961
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 2: not a dictatorship. Now there's quite a bit of feedback

962
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 2: on this. I thought it was relatively clear government changed

963
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: the law. Previously. What had happened is that if a

964
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 2: council wanted to put a Maray ward or a Maori

965
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 2: seat in at the local council level, they did and

966
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 2: if you didn't like it, you could raise five percent

967
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: of the locals by way of a petition. If you

968
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: got that, you then had a vote. It was a referendum.

969
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 2: And when we traditionally had a referender in this country,

970
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: people have voted it down. In other words, they don't

971
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: want Marie Wards or Murray councils. Government has gone and

972
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: changed the law on that. To say to councils, if

973
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: you've gone and done that without a vote, you've got

974
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: to get rid of the seat. Or if you don't

975
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: want to get rid of the seat. You have to

976
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: put it to a vote like the old days, So

977
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 2: councils at the moment are deciding which way they want

978
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: to go now to save you your upset. If they

979
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 2: don't put it to the vote, the seat is gone.

980
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: They can't keep the seat and not put it to

981
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: the vote. If they don't want to put it to

982
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: the vote, there will be no more Maori seats. So

983
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,959
Speaker 2: hopefully that cleans it up once and for all. Twenty

984
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: two away. At least Andrew's one of the stars of

985
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 2: the games, of course, are multiple medals, a couple of

986
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: them being gold. Andrews with us after eight o'clock Back

987
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 2: to school, back to the Education slog. We get more

988
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: results this week's scene to confirm the pass rate success

989
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: we aim for an NCEEA is proving elusive. The latest

990
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: results from the main tests more than half of the

991
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: fifty five thousand who took part and the literacy and

992
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: numeracy tests failed. Now principles say it might be time

993
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: for a bit of a rethink.

994
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 21: Here.

995
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: Education Minister Erica Stanford is back with us. A very

996
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: good morning to you.

997
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 24: Good morning mate.

998
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: The results as you look at them, disappointing or not,

999
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: of course.

1000
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 24: They're disappointing. They've been disappointing for a number of years.

1001
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 24: In fact, a number of decades. I've been dropping. We

1002
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 24: know that, and we've got to do something about it,

1003
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 24: which is why you've seen me have my foot on

1004
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 24: the accelerator recently.

1005
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: As hard as that foot is on the accelerator, When

1006
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: do we see some results?

1007
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 24: Okay, it's going to take some time. We've got a

1008
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 24: lot to make up. I think the key for me though,

1009
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 24: is we put this literacy and numerousy assessment in three

1010
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 24: or four years ago, but did nothing at primary school

1011
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 24: to change the trajectory of kids to get there. So

1012
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 24: just putting in a test, as we know it doesn't

1013
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 24: change anything. You've got to do other things at the

1014
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 24: back end. So what we've done is introduced a new curriculum,

1015
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 24: new teaching practices. We've made sure that we're asfesting our

1016
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 24: kids twice a year. We're changing the way we train

1017
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 24: our teachers. There's a whole range of levers that we're

1018
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 24: pulling to make sure our kids at primary school next

1019
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 24: year we'll be learning structured less mass and structured literacy

1020
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 24: to make sure they can get there. So, yes, it

1021
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 24: will take some time. It was always going to If

1022
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 24: it started this six or seven years ago, we wouldn't

1023
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 24: be in this state.

1024
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: Okay. So when the principals say it's time for a rethink,

1025
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: are you seen pushback here? They want to make the

1026
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 2: tests easy or whatever, or we all on board.

1027
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 24: But I see it from their perspective because they are

1028
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 24: trying their very best high school principles to get these

1029
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 24: kids over the line. The starting point for high schools

1030
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 24: is two kilometers back. These kids are coming in and

1031
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 24: they're eighteen months to two years behind curriculum. It's really

1032
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 24: hard for a high school teacher to get kids up

1033
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 24: to standard. So I hear it from their perspective that

1034
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 24: they want to make some changes to try and make

1035
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 24: it easier.

1036
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 15: Get rid of these tests.

1037
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 24: But we have to aim higher. We have to have

1038
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 24: aspiration for our kids that they can get there and

1039
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 24: everything we can to get them there. Because Mike, these

1040
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 24: are functional foundational literacy and numeracy assessments. These are not

1041
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 24: something that you have to aim for to get to

1042
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 24: by the time you're fifteen or sixteen. They are aimed

1043
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 24: at either time you finish intermediate or start high school.

1044
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 24: That's where they are aimed at. They are relatively straightforward,

1045
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 24: you should be able to pass, and then the fact

1046
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 24: that we can't shows that we have a huge problem.

1047
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 13: We've got to fact, is.

1048
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: The disparity part of it? Well, I know it's part

1049
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: of the problem. But so when European gets sixty two

1050
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: percent pass right versus specific at forty four, is sixty

1051
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 2: two on a tract to something reasonable or is sixty

1052
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: two still hopeless?

1053
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 24: Set two really still isn't great? Given as I just said,

1054
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 24: this is something that's aimed at upper level for lower

1055
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 24: level five of the curriculum, which is end of year

1056
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 24: eight beginning of sort of year nineteen, it's not something

1057
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 24: that should be Seeing these results on sixty percent at

1058
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 24: our our high dasyl schools I think it was sixty

1059
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 24: percent of numerousy at our high d SEL schools indicates

1060
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 24: we still have a huge problem right across the board.

1061
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 2: I do excuse my ignorance because I've forgotten the number.

1062
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: Is it eighty percent by twenty thirty that you're aiming for?

1063
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 24: That's right, and we think we can get there because

1064
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 24: that gives us a whole cohort of kids through primary

1065
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 24: school using structured maths structure literacy under the new curriculum,

1066
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 24: what's the twice yearly assessments. Part of this other problem

1067
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 24: we've got is these kids are sitting this assessment, this

1068
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 24: literacy and numerous assessment and it can be the first

1069
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 24: time you've ever actually set an exam and so we've

1070
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 24: got to start building that in And I actually said

1071
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 24: to end VQA this week, I want you to start

1072
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 24: creating some of these literacy and numerous the assessments dummy

1073
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 24: ones for year seven and eight so our intermediate kids

1074
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 24: can start understanding what's going to be required of them.

1075
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: Choos. Is there any comfort to be drawn on reading

1076
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: Australia NAP Plan they've got the same problem. One in

1077
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: three performed below ex spectations and literacy and numeracy forty

1078
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 2: percent of Year nine children faith so that they're no

1079
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 2: doing no better? Can we all just sit there and go, well,

1080
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: we're all a bit useless.

1081
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 24: Or well at COVID certainly hasn't helped things, but we

1082
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 24: have been on a trajectory of decline for a very

1083
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 24: long time and we should definitely be aiming highed. There's

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Speaker 24: no reason that our kids can't do better, and we've

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Speaker 24: already seen incredible results through structures are trased in reading

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Speaker 24: and writing. We've started to see it in mathematics with

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Speaker 24: schools who are using structured maths.

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Speaker 13: I know we can get there.

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Speaker 24: We just have to pull all levers that I mentioned

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Speaker 24: earlier and things will change.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, all right, Go well, Erica Stanford Education Minister. There.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. The disparity is the thing.

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Speaker 2: When she goes eighty percent by twenty thirty, it's the disparity.

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Speaker 2: So if you're European at sixty two percent, can you

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Speaker 2: get to eighty percent of them passing? Sure? Asian fifty

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Speaker 2: three percent? Pacific forty four numeracy you're down at twenty

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Speaker 2: three twenty three percent of Pacific kids pass. How do

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Speaker 2: you go from twenty three to the majority? In paint?

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Speaker 2: You know that's a massive haul, isn't it? Seventeen minutes

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Speaker 2: away from eight passcal I just think you mate you

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Speaker 2: comments on Ginny Anderson. It had to be a try

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Speaker 2: on because most people, when confronted with the proof of

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Speaker 2: an error or of a mistake, would apologize. She, on

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Speaker 2: the other hand, she didn't apologize.

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Speaker 11: I don't agree with your numbers.

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Speaker 2: No, she doesn't agree with the numbers. She doesn't. She,

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Speaker 2: on the other hand, was obdurate.

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Speaker 11: I don't agree.

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Speaker 2: Is obdurate a word?

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Speaker 9: Did you not pass that test?

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Speaker 2: It's called I'm struggling with obdurate. But it's a good word.

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Speaker 2: If it's a real word, it's an excellent word, and

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Speaker 2: I'll look to feature it on the program on the.

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Speaker 10: We've already the crack research team behind the scenes says,

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Speaker 10: here has already researched that.

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Speaker 9: Up, and by that we mean typed it into the internet. Yes,

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Speaker 9: and yes, it is a word.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic sixteen two.

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Speaker 1: The My Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be thirteen away from it. Obstinate is the word

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00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: I would have used. And because I would use that

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Speaker 2: word naturally, then the word obdurate comes out of left

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Speaker 2: field for me, and then I suddenly questioned it.

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Speaker 9: I would have thought you would have used the word

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Speaker 9: gas leader.

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Speaker 2: Could have done that, But that's a phrase, not a word. Stubborn,

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Speaker 2: unyielding and transited, obdurate stubbornly refusing to change one opinion

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Speaker 2: or course of action.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so it's like when Trump sits down with doctor

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00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 10: Philon says that he's probably going to win California this election.

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Speaker 2: Morning, Mike, I think the word Ginny Anderson was looking

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Speaker 2: for was obtuse. Now that's separate. It's a good word,

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Speaker 2: but it's separate. It's different. Mike. Will you still have

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Speaker 2: Ginny on your show?

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00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 24: Well?

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00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: Course, I will sack people just because they make a

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Speaker 2: fool of themselves. Imagine if people got sacked every time

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00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: they made a fall of themselves, he'd be running the show.

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Speaker 2: Now I wouldn't be me.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you know, otherwise we'd still have Stuart Nash

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Speaker 9: on the show.

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00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: Exactly? Or should we sucker? Should we sucker?

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00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 19: Hmm?

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00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: Maybe we should hire a lawyer and take it to

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Speaker 2: court in Arsbury Judicial review Mercury. By the way, a

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Speaker 2: bit of pushback. This is the Mills Chloe is Funnily enough,

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Speaker 2: I'm watching Chloe's press conference. I know anyway, I'm watching

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Speaker 2: it live yesterday.

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Speaker 9: You're stuck on that stationary bike again, will you Exactly?

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Speaker 2: I'm watching it yesterday and they said somebody goes, will

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Speaker 2: you be in court today? And she goes, no, I'm

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00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 2: going to be at Ruapehu where the people have lost

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Speaker 2: their job with the mill. Now I'm thinking to yourself.

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Speaker 2: Good on you for being a representative. I'm just wondering

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00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: how welcome you are whether a lot of people are

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Speaker 2: about to lose their job, probably move to Australia when

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Speaker 2: you walk in and go, guys, let's talk carbon. It's

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00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 2: probably not going to go down that well anyway. We

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Speaker 2: wish it well with it Mercury. They're saying this about

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00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: the mill. There's a hedging deal about half. They supply

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00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 2: about half their power. Some of it's hinged. Therefore the

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Speaker 2: business of the mill going. Look, it's all spot price

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Speaker 2: and we can't afford it. They don't believe they don't

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Speaker 2: have quote unquote visibility of the electricity they get that's

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Speaker 2: not Mercury's electricity. But it may be that Winstone's taking

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Speaker 2: a calculator risk to purchase some of their remaining power

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Speaker 2: off the spot market. This is a business decision, which

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Speaker 2: is a fair point. They also go on sticking the

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Speaker 2: knife in taken by a large sophisticated international company. In

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Speaker 2: making this decision, Winstone is required to complete tests for

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Speaker 2: their risk exposure. So in other words, they're saying, don't

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Speaker 2: blame it all on us. If you went spot market,

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Speaker 2: you carry the can and within that is the minutii

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Speaker 2: of just about every story, of course, so it's a

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Speaker 2: fair point they make. Turn away from it.

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Speaker 1: The mic costing breakfasts with the Alveda Retirement Communities news to.

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Speaker 2: Said biven away from it. So Fonterra is expanding a

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Speaker 2: high protein hub seventy five million dollar expansion to its

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Speaker 2: Studholm factory. This is South Canterbury, of course, high proteins

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Speaker 2: all about sports nutrition, medical products, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: The market's expected to grow ten billion, that's us in

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Speaker 2: the next four years. Are the CEO, of course is

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Speaker 2: Miles Hurrell was with us morning to you, Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Is this it's niche and always niche or it's niche

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Speaker 2: going mainstream.

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Speaker 22: Very much the letter niche going mainstream. Yeah, people are

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00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 22: starting to use more of these products that used to

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Speaker 22: be just sort of the bodybuilders of the world. But

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Speaker 22: it is going mainstream. And you and I might have

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00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 22: a drink or a proakin bad before after you exercise.

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Speaker 2: He stays, okay, how competitives the space globally.

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Speaker 22: Oh it is Northern Hemisphere are the sort of the

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Speaker 22: key players, not not so much down here, but Northern

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Speaker 22: Hemisphere also got some intellectual property in this place as well,

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Speaker 22: but we think ours is unique, and of course we've

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Speaker 22: got a good strong customer partnerships both in the US

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Speaker 22: and North America. Jupean Career are the key markets that

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Speaker 22: we're targeting.

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Speaker 2: Does the New Zealand thing count for anything in this

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Speaker 2: area or not?

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Speaker 15: Oh, not so much in this area.

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Speaker 22: That is certainly the New Zealand providence sort of story

1204
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 22: resonates in a lot of our product categories, mainly products

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00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 22: that are consuming their cheese and the like. But yeah,

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00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 22: these products, not so much. It's an ingredient that goes

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Speaker 22: into sort of a high high value esports nutrition or

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Speaker 22: medical nutrition, so not not as much as others.

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Speaker 2: And that's where you're at. You provide the ingredient. You're

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Speaker 2: not in the business of making the Fontierra protein bar.

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Speaker 22: Correct, it's it's the ingredient, but the intellectual properly that

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Speaker 22: goes with me. Years of R and D have gone

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Speaker 22: into into these proteins, and so it's an optunity for

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Speaker 22: us to expand our foot front here in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: I know what you're going to say, but how much

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00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 2: of this is psychobabble and how much of it's actual

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Speaker 2: medical and real.

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Speaker 15: Real.

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Speaker 22: I mean you get into the you get into into

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Speaker 22: those power brands in North America, you don't get the

1221
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Speaker 22: approval from from the authorities unless you've done the clinical

1222
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 22: research behind it. So now one hundred percent it's real.

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Speaker 22: And as they say, we were collectively with our where

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Speaker 22: our partners up there to make sure that the products

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Speaker 22: that we provided them fit their bill.

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Speaker 2: And I assume the margin at the end of the

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Speaker 2: market's quite good.

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Speaker 22: It is good, and that lines were sort of the

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Speaker 22: decisions we made recently around divesting out of our consumer

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Speaker 22: business because we believe that the future is in this

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Speaker 22: B to B space, the high value proteins. And you know,

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Speaker 22: for us to throw seventy five million dollars at apart,

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Speaker 22: that was sort of aging into almost to the end

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Speaker 22: of the tech And I'm life and given that of

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Speaker 22: a new Lisa life, its great cuss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, while I've got you. Haven't talked to you

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Speaker 2: since the last auction. Are you saving the country single handedly? Here?

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Speaker 2: Things look all right now?

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Speaker 22: I think things look okay, although you know there are

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Speaker 22: some in your colleague Jamie McKay, still some We've been

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Speaker 22: a bit conservative. So the market has two and for us,

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00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 22: which is great, but it is still early days. The

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00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 22: world's not in the great shape of the ears.

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Speaker 15: We all know.

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Speaker 22: We're just keeping keeping a.

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Speaker 15: Pair of dry for a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Do you want me to have a word with Jamie?

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00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 19: No, he does.

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Speaker 22: He is his way you know works?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I good Onles, nice to ketch up broadche out

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00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: Verty much Miles har I know Jamie. Anyone knows Jamie.

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Speaker 2: I know Jamie four minutes away from eight Husky. Bob

1253
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 2: Durrett was in the Gilbert and Sullivan musical Possibly Pirates

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00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 2: presents the song Tit Willow? Is that true? Glenn? I

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00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 2: always come to you for a dram advice?

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Speaker 8: Is that?

1257
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 24: Well?

1258
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 9: What's the one with it?

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Speaker 2: Tit Willow?

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Speaker 10: I would have thought it would have been in the

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Speaker 10: very modern you know, what's that one? I'm a very

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00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 10: modern example of something around there, and it's got all

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Speaker 10: the rhyming words in it.

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Speaker 9: Look it up. I'll get back.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's move quickly on from that.

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Speaker 9: Move quickly quickly on from that.

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Speaker 2: Elise andrews now as a cyclist myself, it's good to

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Speaker 2: have a fellow cyclist in the studios. Anyway, Enough about me,

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Speaker 2: Elise Andrews medal winner, gold medal winner after the news,

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Speaker 2: which is next year at the news, talk said.

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Speaker 13: But you can't tell the.

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Speaker 1: Big news, the bold opinions, the mic Hosking, breakfast with

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Speaker 1: the range rover, the law designed to intrigue and use.

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Speaker 1: Talk said, b.

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Speaker 2: To be at a seven past eight one of the

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01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: games we play at the Games of courses? Who did best?

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Speaker 2: Who was your favorite? Met a lot of headlines for

1278
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: Hamish Care of course, because he seemed to basically come

1279
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Speaker 2: out of nowhere. Dame Lisa Carrington because she has more

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01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: medals than just about anyone's ever seen. And then of

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01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 2: course we have Alise Andrews, so she took home a

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Speaker 2: couple of golds and a silver. She dominated the velodrome

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Speaker 2: and she is with us. Lovely to see you and

1284
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: meet you.

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Speaker 20: Thank you for having me.

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01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 2: Have I been boring you in the last five minutes

1287
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Speaker 2: with my intricate series of questions on cycling and fitness.

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01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 23: No, I actually enjoy talking to people who don't have

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Speaker 23: as probably as much knowledge as me of track cycling.

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Speaker 20: So no, definitely not bored at all.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic What I find fascinating about what you do? And

1292
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Speaker 2: first of all, clear some stuff up for everybody who

1293
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: asked all the same questions at the Olympics. The track

1294
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 2: was fast. It was a fast track. What makes a

1295
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 2: fast track?

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Speaker 23: So one massive thing that we talked about and we

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Speaker 23: know of the Parish track is its height. So we

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Speaker 23: going into the competition knew that in our flying two

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Speaker 23: hundreds we would see some insanely fast times and that

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Speaker 23: is one of the massive factors contributing to that, because

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Speaker 23: you know, the higher we are, the more speed we're

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Speaker 23: going to get off the banking. And so we knew that,

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Speaker 23: We knew that the shape of the track was fast,

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Speaker 23: we knew that it was going to be hot, we

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Speaker 23: knew that it was quality. So yeah, there were so

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Speaker 23: many factors that made us really excited to race on

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Speaker 23: Paris fantastic.

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Speaker 2: How did you choose what you chose to do in

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Speaker 2: terms of an event?

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Speaker 23: I love individual and team events. For me, you know,

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Speaker 23: I have had success previously in the individual events, which

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Speaker 23: gave me a start in both of those, and we

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Speaker 23: were really excited to put a team on the line

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Speaker 23: as well. So for me, the team event was easy.

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Speaker 23: I absolutely love that, and I knew I wanted to

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Speaker 23: do both individual events as well, even though it was

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Speaker 23: a crazy, crazy schedule, I knew that beforehand, and I

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Speaker 23: prepared the.

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Speaker 2: Individual events that you were so good at. At what

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Speaker 2: point in your career or life does somebody go that's

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Speaker 2: what you could do as opposed to you being on

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Speaker 2: the road, Yeah, long distance whatever.

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Speaker 19: Yeah.

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Speaker 23: I always love track cycling over road, but I was

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Speaker 23: an endurance when I was a bit younger. But I

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Speaker 23: feel like people saw saw qualities in me that that

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Speaker 23: sort of spoke to track cycling, and so, you know,

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Speaker 23: one of them was I love I loved being in

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Speaker 23: that bunch, and I loved, you know, getting in those

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Speaker 23: tricky situations and getting myself out so tactically, I loved

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Speaker 23: the Karen. But then sort of my physical you know

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Speaker 23: ability lent itself really well to sprint cycling as well.

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Speaker 2: So your physicality does that predetermine to some degree what

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Speaker 2: you will end up doing within cycling?

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Speaker 19: Yes?

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Speaker 23: Absolutely so. I mean some pure, pure sprinters, which isn't me.

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Speaker 23: I'm very obvious that they would be sprinters. You know,

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Speaker 23: they are extremely poppy, extremely powerful, fast, and the same

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Speaker 23: with extreme endurance athletes on the track.

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Speaker 20: You know, you'll be able to tell the.

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Speaker 23: Difference between those Yeah, it gets a little bit more

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Speaker 23: tricky with athletes like me who have a little bit

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Speaker 23: of both.

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Speaker 20: So it took me a while to find my past.

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Speaker 2: So you were born that way?

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Speaker 13: Yes, born?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I would say I was born that way.

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Speaker 2: Can you in cycling, if you are determined in some way,

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Speaker 2: shape or form, become great? Or are you born great?

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Speaker 20: I think, you know, I have.

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Speaker 23: I have cycling parents, I have a whole cycling family,

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Speaker 23: So I think I have that to think that that's well, yeah,

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Speaker 23: but I mean along along with that, there's there's so

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Speaker 23: many things that go into, you know, making making an athlete,

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Speaker 23: and you know, passion is one of them as well.

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Speaker 23: You know, it's not all about your physical ability, it's

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Speaker 23: it's your drive and your want to be an athlete

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Speaker 23: as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so cycling appeals to you why as opposed to anything.

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Speaker 23: Else track cycling in particular, I love the speed and

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Speaker 23: I love the adrenaline. I'm such an adrenaline person.

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Speaker 2: And you ride a motorbike.

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Speaker 20: I mean maybe I will. I don't know, I could

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Speaker 20: do that later.

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Speaker 2: So what strikes me about it as first of all,

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Speaker 2: cycling is accessible, Yeah, I mean, because most people can

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Speaker 2: afford a bike. You get on the bike, you're off

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Speaker 2: and running what you've got there in Cambridge? I take

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Speaker 2: it you're in Cambridge. Yes, I mean that's a fantastic facility.

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Speaker 2: And despite the headline the last couple of years, it

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Speaker 2: has actually been and is a brilliant program. And would

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Speaker 2: what can you tell us about because it's yachting wasn't

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Speaker 2: the same as time, but yachting rowing cycling in this

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Speaker 2: country to a lesser extent, I suppose a Questrian have

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Speaker 2: clearly programs that work that breed champions. So what can

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Speaker 2: you tell me about what we do with cycling that

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Speaker 2: makes us so successful?

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Speaker 23: I think with cycling in New Zealand, you know, it's

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Speaker 23: not just about Cambridge, It's not about that harbor. It's

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Speaker 23: about our whole country and what cycling means to the country.

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Speaker 23: And I have grown up in various different areas around

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Speaker 23: New Zealand, Wanaka being one of them. Amazing for mountain biking,

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Speaker 23: you know. So I would get on my mountain bike

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Speaker 23: as a kid and I'd sprint my parents and that

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Speaker 23: was so much fun and that's what made me excited

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Speaker 23: moving down to Invericago, where I tried track cycling. They

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Speaker 23: have an absolute passion for cycling there. They love it

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Speaker 23: and so the Southland program really really helped nurture me.

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Speaker 23: Canterbury the same. There's just so many local legions in

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Speaker 23: Canterbury that are just so passionate about what they do.

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Speaker 23: And moving into Cambridge, where I move when I was sixteen,

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Speaker 23: similar thing. You know, we have that facility there, it's

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Speaker 23: world class. I have people who support me, sponsors, the facility,

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Speaker 23: the community, everything there is just so special. And so

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Speaker 23: I think it's the tight knit community and it's the

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Speaker 23: passion that's within that community fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I was reading the article the other day post Olympics

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Speaker 2: athletes go through this dreadful lull. You don't strike me

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Speaker 2: as being particularly depressed this morning. You seem seem full

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Speaker 2: ofid of No.

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Speaker 23: I mean, it's something that we are all aware of,

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Speaker 23: and I think it's after you've gone through such a

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01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 23: massive high, you know what's on the other side of that,

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Speaker 23: when you've been focusing on one thing for so long.

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01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 23: But you know, I'm I'm really enjoying sort of a

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Speaker 23: break and enjoying times with friends and family, and yeah,

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Speaker 23: I sort of haven't really felt that, yeah, that lull,

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01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 23: but I you know, I have an amazing support around me,

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Speaker 23: and I am aware of people who do feel the

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Speaker 23: lull as well.

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Speaker 2: But you're also young. You've got years ahea to be

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Speaker 2: You've got the next Olympics, the Olympics after that, and

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Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff today. Don't go away. More

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Speaker 2: from Elis Andrews in the Moment thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Talksip us Talks sixteen past eight. Toles Andrews is our guest.

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Speaker 2: Let me get just momentarily technical and bore you whitlss.

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Speaker 2: So I cycle right. So I have an understanding when

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01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 2: I look at I can do fifty five k's, but

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Speaker 2: it's it's I get there. It's it's it's reasonably fast,

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01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 2: but I know what it takes to get there. So

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Speaker 2: I look at you guys on the track, and that's

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Speaker 2: what blows me away about how you do it, because

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Speaker 2: anyone who's never done fifty five k's doesn't understand how

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Speaker 2: hard that is for a regular person, and you guys

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Speaker 2: just blow it out of the water. At what point

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Speaker 2: do you physically limit yourself to a point where you

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Speaker 2: can go no faster?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 20: I think. You know, Paris is a massive example of that.

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Speaker 23: You know, we we put absolutely everything into the track

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Speaker 23: and we I feel like, could not have gone any faster.

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Speaker 23: But you know, in saying that, you know, you do

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Speaker 23: review a race and you think, maybe I could have

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Speaker 23: technically done something better. Maybe physically I couldn't have given

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Speaker 23: anything more to the race, but maybe technically I could

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Speaker 23: have ridden a better line. All of that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 23: So yeah, that's the reviews that we sort of do

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Speaker 23: now and yet reflect on so we can.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's my next question. How much of the

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Speaker 2: sport then around speed and success is about you as

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Speaker 2: a human being versus the bike or the track or

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Speaker 2: the conditions.

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Speaker 23: I really think it is just, you know, a mixture

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01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 23: of all of those elements that create a good performance.

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Speaker 23: You know, of course, you need the good athlete, and

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Speaker 23: you need the athlete to be on form at the time,

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01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 23: but you need the athlete to be riding equipment that

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Speaker 23: is going to allow them to go fast. You need

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Speaker 23: the track to be good enough conditions to allow the

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Speaker 23: athlete to go fast, and then the athlete needs to

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Speaker 23: be able to technically ride the bike fast enough and

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Speaker 23: be able to handle it.

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Speaker 2: Is the technology changing in the bike dramatically or slowly

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Speaker 2: or not at all.

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Speaker 23: I'd say, you know, it definitely is changing. But in

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Speaker 23: saying that, we ride a very simple classic frame at

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Speaker 23: site in New Zealand. But you know there are countries

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Speaker 23: that spend hundreds and thousands of dollars per bike, you know,

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Speaker 23: in development, and they are they are going fast, so

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Speaker 23: you know, maybe there is a little something in that.

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Speaker 2: So there is something now. Now, once again, without getting technical,

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Speaker 2: I noticed on the bike some countries ran what I

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Speaker 2: would call from below the handlebars, a square sort of

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Speaker 2: thing at the front. Does that make sense as opposed

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Speaker 2: to the traditional why?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, So there were countries who ride those those

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Speaker 23: different looking forks in those different frames, and it's an

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Speaker 23: aerodynamical thing but potentially creates, you know, a different handling

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Speaker 23: aspect to the bike as well. So you know there's

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Speaker 23: lots of elements that would have gone into their testing

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Speaker 23: for them to you know, develop that type of frame.

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Speaker 2: How much of your success is about the program then,

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01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 2: and the money that's put into it, the facilities they

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Speaker 2: provide you, the whole thing.

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Speaker 23: I think I think it's massive. You know, we can

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Speaker 23: do absolutely everything that we can as athletes. But you know,

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Speaker 23: if we don't have the coaching staff, the support staff,

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Speaker 23: if we don't have everyone on board creating the systems,

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Speaker 23: the bikes, the skin suits, all of that to the

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Speaker 23: absolute highest highest level, we're not going to go as fast.

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Speaker 20: As we could.

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Speaker 2: How much How many times have you hit the track?

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Speaker 2: I've had two and slid down.

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Speaker 23: I've had two major crashes, but I've had more crashes

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Speaker 23: than that. Overall, I'd say, you know, less than ten.

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Speaker 23: You know, I'm not falling off every day or anything

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Speaker 23: like that, but yeah, I'd like to say I have

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Speaker 23: only had two major major crashes, which is the ones

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Speaker 23: where I've had a concussion, broken collar bone.

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Speaker 2: Because it's only when you fail that you see how

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Speaker 2: stick that is? Yeah, how many splinters there are on

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Speaker 2: that sh Yeah, and people think it's smooth and shiny.

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Speaker 23: No, no, no, you do not want to fall off.

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Speaker 23: And that's I think why all of us avoid it

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Speaker 23: so greatly. The splinters are horrible. You know, I've seen

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Speaker 23: some horrific ones, seen photos of horrific ones. But when

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Speaker 23: I crash, you know, it hasn't been crazy massive splinters.

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Speaker 23: It's just been the amount of wooden splinters in your body.

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Speaker 20: It's not good.

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Speaker 2: Have you given much thought to this? Given you just back?

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01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 2: But what happens now? Does the field come to you

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01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 2: or do you leave the field behind?

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Speaker 23: I you know, I think at the start of a

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Speaker 23: new Olympic cycle, obviously we do a lot of reflection

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Speaker 23: and planning for the future, and I think, you know,

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Speaker 23: a lot of it isn't what is the field doing,

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Speaker 23: it's you know, how can I make myself better? Knowing

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Speaker 23: that every single athlete in the field is also thinking

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Speaker 23: the same thing, So we don't know what's going to

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Speaker 23: happen in terms of everyone else's development. What I can

1513
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Speaker 23: control is my development, and that's what I'm going to

1514
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Speaker 23: focus on.

1515
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Speaker 2: Okay, what are your weak points?

1516
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Speaker 20: My weak points? I'd say.

1517
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 23: We were just talking about this a little earlier, but

1518
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Speaker 23: I think I have a lot to do in the gym,

1519
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 23: in the upper body. That is a massive thing for me.

1520
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 23: I'm quite messy on my bike, especially when I'm absolutely fatigued.

1521
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 23: I do, you know, flip a little a little bit

1522
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 23: all over the show. So I think for me, it's

1523
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 23: just yeah, the first thing is that stability, that strength,

1524
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 23: but of course always consistency in training. Not that I

1525
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 23: haven't had that, and not that I don't do that,

1526
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 23: but you know, this year has been up and down

1527
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 23: with the crash and all of that kind of stuff,

1528
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 23: So I think for me, it's just consistency and getting

1529
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Speaker 23: all those little things right.

1530
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Speaker 2: One of the best things about the whole games for

1531
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Speaker 2: me and watching you, was at the end. I can't

1532
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Speaker 2: remember what metal it was, but you said, I'm proud

1533
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Speaker 2: of how I carried myself through this. Where does that

1534
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Speaker 2: come from?

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Speaker 23: I'm so proud of the whole entire week because of

1536
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Speaker 23: how massive it was.

1537
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 20: I knew that it was going to be like that

1538
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 20: going in. I knew that, you know, all.

1539
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Speaker 23: Going well, I was going to be racing every day,

1540
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 23: six days, and that's scary and it's daunting, and looking

1541
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 23: at that from the beginning of a competition is a lot.

1542
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 23: So I think to get to the end where I

1543
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 23: sort of was feeling those emotions, I was so proud

1544
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 23: of how I turned up every day. But even when

1545
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 23: I was exhausted, I turned up and I made sure

1546
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Speaker 23: to give absolutely everything.

1547
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Speaker 20: To the race.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic.

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Speaker 23: When's your next tournament in November? Yeah, so I'm very

1550
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 23: excited for that. It's quite a fun little league, and

1551
01:11:58,800 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 23: so I hit to Europe for that.

1552
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 2: A fun little leader. Once you're a gold middle Winter

1553
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 2: fun that's a fun little thing. I'll leave between the Olympics.

1554
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Speaker 20: No, I'm very excited for it.

1555
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Speaker 23: It's sort of like the only the only event in

1556
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 23: the year that's that's more about entertainment than it is

1557
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Speaker 23: about Yeah, get about there.

1558
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Speaker 2: Well, warmest congratulations on it all. Well done, been great

1559
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Speaker 2: you and you met your pass your NCA, Mike, simply delightful,

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Speaker 2: professional young lady in every sense. Mike. It's nice to

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Speaker 2: hear an eloquent young woman talk about you know, great

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Speaker 2: interview morning, Mike. Great that you can ask your ask

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Speaker 2: our champion cyclist if she has any advice for Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden to stay on his bike. Don't be funny news

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Speaker 1: In a couple of moments, your trusted source for news

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Speaker 1: EDB in.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand have just come in. The forecast was for

1614
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: or not as good as it used to be for

1615
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 2: obvious reasons. Earnings before taxation two nd twenty two million

1616
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 2: net profit after taxation one forty six passenger revenue fire

1617
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 2: point nine billion. Earnings before taxation is the direct comparison

1618
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 2: to twenty two millionaires, I said, compared with five seventy

1619
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 2: four for the same period last year. They do all

1620
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 2: the stuff that you would expect them to do. Cost pressures,

1621
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 2: inflationary pressures, competition on the US networks, the US at

1622
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 2: Netwix came and the allies came in basically ate their lunch.

1623
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 2: So I haven't been able to see whether that's within guidance.

1624
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 2: Though the big one, the really big one. If you

1625
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 2: want to find out whether do is these days, it's

1626
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 2: in chips in Nvidia who as far as I can

1627
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 2: work out, the entire market in America, if not, the

1628
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 2: entire world has been waiting for it's after the bill

1629
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:47,719
Speaker 2: in the States. But they've beaten expectations for earnings and guidance,

1630
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,799
Speaker 2: and they've provided stronger than expected guidance for the current quarter.

1631
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 2: Their revenue for the quarter was thirty point zero four

1632
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 2: billion dollars. That's UIs just for the quarter. It expected

1633
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 2: about thirty two point five billion in the current quarter.

1634
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 2: So it just keeps going up and up and up.

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Speaker 2: He'll be able to afford a brand new leather jacket,

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Speaker 2: which is nice. Twenty two minutes away from.

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Speaker 17: Nine International correspondence with ins and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 17: mind for New Zealand business in the UK.

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Speaker 2: We go our old made into Brady's for us.

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Speaker 16: Morning Mike, Good morning, Mike. Got to speak to again.

1641
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Speaker 2: Now since we end you too, and since we last spoke,

1642
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 2: Key has wanted into the garden, reclaimed the garden for

1643
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 2: the people of England, announced how tough things were, and

1644
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 2: left off to Berlin. So taught me through the last

1645
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 2: couple of days, how's it gone.

1646
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Speaker 16: It's been a whirlwind. So the whole point of the

1647
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,719
Speaker 16: speech was to mark fifty days of his premiership, fifty

1648
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 16: days in Downing Street, and he's made it clear pain

1649
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 16: is coming. Things are going to get way worse before

1650
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 16: they get better. There is a forty four billion dollar

1651
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 16: black hole in the budgets, in public finances, and he's

1652
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 16: laying the groundwork, as I said the other day, for

1653
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 16: big taxing creases in the budget that's coming in October.

1654
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 16: So he got that out of the way. He made

1655
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 16: it clear that it's going to take a long time,

1656
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 16: a decade to fix Britain's problems. And he has spent

1657
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 16: the day in Berlin with the German Chancellor Olaf Schultz,

1658
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 16: and we are moving closer to Europe again. It is

1659
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 16: utterly irrefutable. Britain is resetting the relationship.

1660
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 2: Do we believe what he's about? So in the camp

1661
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 2: some of the stuff that he talked about, and the

1662
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 2: know how hard it is, and we've got a black

1663
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 2: hole and we'll need to talk about Texas. That'll come

1664
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 2: as a surprise to some people. Then in Germany he goes, no,

1665
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 2: it's not brixit. Do we believe all of that?

1666
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 16: Look Rerexit the past eight years, the economists I speak

1667
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 16: to on my show on a weekly basis, the prediction is,

1668
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 16: and the reality is somewhere in the region of eight

1669
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 16: hundred billion dollars gone up in smoke, between lack of investment,

1670
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 16: people not coming here, companies pulling out, talented young people

1671
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Speaker 16: deciding to go home to places like Poland, and Germany

1672
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 16: and Spain and Greece, bregsast has been an economic catastrophe

1673
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 16: for the UK, never mind the reputational damage it is

1674
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 16: holding every single person and business in this country back.

1675
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 16: Starmer's a smart man, He's a pragmatist. He's come out

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Speaker 16: today and he said, look, this is not about going

1677
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Speaker 16: back into the European Union or the Single Market or

1678
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Speaker 16: the Customs Union. He said, we just want to be

1679
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 16: better neighbors and we want to rebuild relations. And look

1680
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 16: he has built a relationship already with Emmanuel mccron in France,

1681
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 16: and the meeting today in Berlin with the Chancellor Schultz,

1682
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 16: it's the fifth time he's met him in fifty one

1683
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Speaker 16: days he's been Prime Minister. So make no mistake, Starmer

1684
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Speaker 16: is putting the handout of friendship and saying, look, this

1685
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 16: is a new Britain and we want to be friends,

1686
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 16: not enemies. The Conservatives just dealt with everyone on the

1687
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 16: continent with suspicion and hostility and the end result was

1688
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 16: no good could be got from any of the relationships

1689
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Speaker 16: from Berlin to Paris, Madrid, Romes, you name it. Starmer

1690
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 16: is all about the reset.

1691
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Speaker 2: Okay, easy to go to France and Germany, particularly Germany,

1692
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 2: given he's a labor man. What about when he goes

1693
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 2: to Italy, for example, is it going to be you know,

1694
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 2: across border, cross politics, all of that stuff will not well.

1695
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 16: Look, he's, as I say, a pragmatist. I don't think

1696
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 16: Georgia Maloney will be someone that he would ideally sit

1697
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 16: down and break bread with on a weekly basis. But

1698
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 16: he does realize that they have a lot in common

1699
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 16: the UK and Italy illegal migration, and I think privately

1700
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,560
Speaker 16: he will have said to her that a lot of

1701
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 16: the migrants who are coming across to Italy in boats

1702
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 16: will they don't want to be in Italy. I mean,

1703
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 16: I've covered the migrant trail in Sicily myself, and when

1704
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 16: you speak to these young people coming from North Africa

1705
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 16: who've treked all the way across several countries for twelve

1706
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 16: fourteen months, they tell you they want to come to

1707
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 16: the UK and they make no bones about it. They're

1708
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 16: not interested in being in Italy or Germany. They want

1709
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 16: to get to northern France and they want to take

1710
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 16: their chances on those boats and get to the UK.

1711
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 16: So I think it's all about building relationships for Starmar,

1712
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 16: but Makeno mistake. He is a very serious man. For

1713
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 16: everyone that has been saying, oh, how dully is, how

1714
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 16: boring he is, I think it's refreshing to hear someone

1715
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 16: speak honestly and say we've got problems and guess what,

1716
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 16: I'm working every hour to fix them.

1717
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 2: I know it wasn't out of left field, but how

1718
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 2: BIG's the Oasis news?

1719
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Speaker 16: Been huge? Huge, absolutely huge, And there's a few little

1720
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 16: developments tonight. So Manchester is where the boys are originally from.

1721
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 16: They're from an Irish family. Manchester is where they were

1722
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 16: born and they grew up, and that will be the

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Speaker 16: big homecoming. Four gigs in August of next year in

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Speaker 16: Manchester for the Gallahers and the other members of Oasis.

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Speaker 16: Now what is utterly shameful tonight here hotel chains have

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Speaker 16: been canceling bookings. So anyone who'd booked the room randomly

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Speaker 16: in Manchester for those dates in August next year, twenty

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Speaker 16: twenty five, I mean a whole year away. They've received

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Speaker 16: emails in the last few hours I'm hearing telling them

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Speaker 16: that there's been a sist some error and we can't

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Speaker 16: give you that booking. And then when people have tried

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Speaker 16: to log into the same hotel chain and book the

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Speaker 16: same room. The price is now triple. This is utterly

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Speaker 16: shameless profit hearing from hotels who've realized that the hottest

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Speaker 16: tickets in town next summer in the UK are in Manchester,

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Speaker 16: in London, there's gigs in Cardiff, and obviously the two

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Speaker 16: boys being of Irish stock, they finish this leg of

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Speaker 16: the tour in Dublin. Those hotels I think need to

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01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 16: look long and hard at themselves in Manchester tonight because

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01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 16: they're just ripping people off exactly.

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Speaker 2: Well, so Mike, you go, well catch up, saying into

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Speaker 2: briding m out of the UK for are seventeen minutes

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Speaker 2: away from nine pasket just on the elae. Interesting. What

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Speaker 2: an extraordinary young woman, A wonderful role model to all.

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01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 2: You make us proud. What a great insightful interview. Might

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01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 2: love your attitude, well spoken, determined, vicious young woman, great

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01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 2: inter be whatn't outstanding? An erudite athlete? Easy to see

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01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 2: how success follows her. Fantastic speakers. Such a well spoken,

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Speaker 2: intelligent young woman. I just love the way at last

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Speaker 2: gives her opponents the stare before they start each race.

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Speaker 2: Intimidating freaks them out. Can you tell the show, Oh,

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Speaker 2: the show that's on Neon or soho, that's industry. Industry

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01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 2: is the show you're after? Quite a good show, Mike,

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Speaker 2: I disagree cycling is not accessible financially if you're wanting

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01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 2: to take cycling to a performance level bike starting at

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01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,759
Speaker 2: ten k I wasn't meaning that. What I was meaning

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01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 2: is that a bike is accessible generally speaking in a

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Speaker 2: country like US, the same way as tennis racketers or

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01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 2: abadminton racketers. And you can play the sport and obviously

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01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 2: as you progress through the sport the cost goes up,

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01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 2: but then that's where sponsorship et cetera comes, and just

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01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 2: being able to get into the sport is not that difficult,

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01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 2: is what I was meaning.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen to nine the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News.

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Speaker 19: Talks at B.

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Speaker 2: Just to wrap that market information, the net profit for

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Speaker 2: in video is sixteen point six billion for the quarter.

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Speaker 2: The quarter it was within range THREEIR in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: they said one ninety to two thirty two too too.

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Speaker 2: And also just to wrap up obdurate, it was is

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Speaker 2: there an apology? Glen? Did you get the wrong show.

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Speaker 10: Well, yes, right, so obviously yes, the text texted and

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Speaker 10: Willow willow yes, And I suggested that it was this way.

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Speaker 11: I am the model of a model du general the legend.

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Speaker 9: Which is from the It's not that there's just a

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Speaker 9: lot of words in the song. So I thought that

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Speaker 9: maybe it was the song that it turned out, but

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Speaker 9: that it was actually.

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Speaker 11: On a tree by river Saang Willow did Willow did Willow?

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Speaker 9: And I said to him, and the song goes on

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Speaker 9: for a while and then and.

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Speaker 2: If you remain careless and obdurati shall.

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Speaker 25: Perishest and you will sell perises he did, and you

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Speaker 25: will know why, though I probably shall not exclaim as

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Speaker 25: I die a Willow tit Willow Willow.

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Speaker 9: Will strange shows? An't they?

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Speaker 2: What subject do you study? That drama?

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Speaker 9: Those all all that those subjects are banned. Now, we

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Speaker 9: don't do that to.

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Speaker 2: Coulture as you're trying to pass end cea no, no time.

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Speaker 9: That won't help it up.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I was talking to somebody earlier on

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Speaker 2: about being an influencer, not that I am an influencer.

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01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,879
Speaker 2: I just they raised a person who was an influence.

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Speaker 2: I said, oh, she's an influencer. Anyway, it turns out

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Speaker 2: the IID were listening and that's how AI works, and

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01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 2: so soon as soon as they heard that via the

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Speaker 2: AI via one of our phones which leak, they then

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Speaker 2: published the influences average income for the year in this country.

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Speaker 2: So there are one hundred and eighty one people who

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Speaker 2: fit the definition of being an influence in this country. Now,

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Speaker 2: the problem with the inland revenue. Of course, they rely

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01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 2: on tax returns. Now, I suspect don't know, just suspect

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01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 2: that there'd be a number of people that call themselves

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01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 2: influencers who wouldn't want to deal with the IRD or

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Speaker 2: anything like a tax return. Therefore, they don't know that exists.

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Speaker 2: But be that as it may. Of the one eight

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Speaker 2: one thirty six percent, their income was their main source

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Speaker 2: and that was at forty six two hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: eight dollars and zero one cent. So it's had a

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Speaker 2: lot of money, not really, it's below the minimum wage.

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Speaker 2: Better off on the minimum wage job than being an influencer.

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Speaker 2: Sixty four percent. Influencing was less than fifty percent of

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Speaker 2: their ruinings. The average income for them was the grand

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01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 2: total of four five hundred and seventy seven dollars twenty

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Speaker 2: so not really a money spinner. Brad Olsen does the numbers.

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Speaker 2: Because brad Olsen does the numbers on everything, he reckons

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01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 2: the three and a half million dollars made an income

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Speaker 2: from influencers in the start of three and a half

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01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 2: million dollars isn't very much for a whole lot of

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01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 2: people out there going, you know, hashtag this and sponsored

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Speaker 2: by that and we.

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Speaker 20: I've had such a good time on the cocktails here

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Speaker 20: free hashtag.

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Speaker 2: Well, the other crap that goes on I wouldn't take,

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Speaker 2: says Brad. One hundred and eighty one is the total

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Speaker 2: count of influencers. See, I told you it may be

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Speaker 2: the count of exclusive influencers. Probably an undercount. That's my suspicion.

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Speaker 10: I mean, what about where does an accidental influencer like

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01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 10: yourself fallen? I mean you mentioned Kim Chieflakes on the show.

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Speaker 2: That's true and boom boom exactly. Yeah, So how does

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Speaker 2: it finds the tech anti influencer.

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Speaker 9: What's the tax consequence?

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Speaker 2: There's no tax consequence.

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Speaker 10: If I was to say, you know, get along to

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Speaker 10: the odd couple at Sena Stage Theater this weekend for

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Speaker 10: opening night right on the station. Right then, what's the

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Speaker 10: tax implication of that?

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Speaker 2: It's a good question, Claire. Are you involved in the

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Speaker 2: show this weekend?

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Speaker 10: No, the domestic managers directing it, and you know, I'm

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01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 10: just hoping to get some tax benefit from her.

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Speaker 2: I guess we'll see what happens this weekend. Where was it?

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Speaker 9: It's center Stage? You know, were the only theater you

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01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 9: need to go to in Auckland.

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01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:31,640
Speaker 2: Nine away from nine the costume Breakfast with Why did

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01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 2: you see the clip of George Kittle giving the reporters

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01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 2: a hard time at one of his press conferences for

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01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 2: not putting an effort into how they dress and being

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01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 2: a bit sloppy. I think he's got a good point.

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01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 2: I do too. Journalists are famously bad dresses and they

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01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 2: need to improve it. Mind you, the American NFL season,

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01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 2: which begins this coming weekend week are full of very

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Speaker 2: wealthy people who buy a lot of very flash clothing

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Speaker 2: and they dress to impress. And there's probably something that

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Speaker 2: all blacks can learn. Speaking of all blacks, who we

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Speaker 2: going on tomorrow? Hey, they promised us this part of

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Speaker 2: our deal when we had the meeting and we got

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01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 2: together with the the NZ at Au and they came

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Speaker 2: away and they said, we're promising you marquee players. And

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Speaker 2: so far we've had the captain who wasn't playing, so

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01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:11,759
Speaker 2: there was the debate over whether a captain that doesn't

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Speaker 2: play fits the bill. I think it did because he's

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Speaker 2: a legend and I love him. Then we had Ethan

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Speaker 2: who was called because he's from Canterbury, so that works.

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Speaker 2: And then tomorrow we've got the the marquee player of

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Speaker 2: all marquee players. Five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now hemmisquare House, the Real House of Fragrances.

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Speaker 2: I mean I have to explain. I don't have to

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Speaker 2: explain who it is body, It's he gonna all black?

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Speaker 1: You want trending now? With square House, you're one start

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Speaker 1: for Father's Day Fragrances.

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Speaker 2: Your desert island all black? Isn't he trending now?

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Speaker 1: Ware House, the Real House of Fragrances.

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01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 2: Talked about HMD earlier on company that makes Nokia launched

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Speaker 2: the pink Barbie phone flip phone. It's dumb phone, no

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01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 2: social media apps, texts only, so the makers had the

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Speaker 2: you know, the bast of intentions. Obviously, the idea being

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Speaker 2: to keep kids away from the evils of the internet. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: online safety campaigners don't quite see it that way.

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Speaker 21: I'm not going to lie. My heart sank when I

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Speaker 21: saw this product. My first thought was what next Barby

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Speaker 21: scented vapes. So products like this are going to normalize

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Speaker 21: really dangerous behaviors and even younger children. What this says

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Speaker 21: says to young children. The signal that it sends is

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Speaker 21: it's okay to be attached to your phone. And of

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Speaker 21: course the children who enjoy playing with Barbies are not

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Speaker 21: secondary school children, they're preschoolers. This product is targeted at

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Speaker 21: four year olds, and it's saying to saying to young

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Speaker 21: children with a heavily gendered product, it's okay to have

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Speaker 21: a phone that's got a camera. And just because it's dumb,

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Speaker 21: because it doesn't have social media, that doesn't mean it's safe.

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Speaker 2: Barbie's also got a car, in a house, an investment portfolio.

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Speaker 9: So she's in let's see, she's in care ruraging, boy racing.

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Speaker 26: Fraud, commercialism, tax avoidance. He's got a boyfriend, promiscuous behavior,

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Speaker 26: out of wedlock, relationships, crazy times, Glenn, where was the play?

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Speaker 9: I were in a stage theater? The odd couple.

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Speaker 2: Get in there on for a week, says Boom. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'll be at center stages. Said that Gary Brown's coming.

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Speaker 9: Oh he's a big fan, is he.

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Speaker 2: Do you know Gary?

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Speaker 9: Well, everybody knows Gary. You've interviewed Gary on this show.

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Speaker 2: Offered me, I don't know anything that happened this morning.

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Speaker 2: It's wiped back tomorrow from six Happy Days.

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