1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: It does feel like our picture of property as a 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: crucial part of your investment strategy is changing. What is 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: it just literally down to it, it's a generational it's 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: overpriced to get into were there are other complicating factors? 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Or is it just a it's a more of a vibe. 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: There's a long list, I have a list. Okay, what 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: have we got something? There's no longer interest rates falling 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: for three decades as happened from nineteen ninety two three 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: to twenty twenty one. That's over So that was a 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: special thing in there. We had a structural lift in 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: population growth courtesy of a lift in migration in the 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: mid nineteen nineties, while we're not seeing that any longer. 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: The tax rules have changehow at least the ring fencing, 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: you know, losses on rental against salary work wage and 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: salary income, et cetera. Legislation more in favor of the 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: tenants are going out there, Greater supply coming forward as 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: well because of changes and land use rules, et cetera, 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: land z owning. It's all very different in that regard. 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: We've got deet to income ratio rules applied now by 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank for the banks to impose. So that 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: makes a change out there, and we'll also god for 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: people facing retirement who maybe already have a property, the 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: retirement is going to be a lot more expensive than 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 2: they anticipated with hikes and insurance costs and local authority rates, 25 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: meat butter, scones down at their cafe, et cetera, and 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: so that means an extra selling. So one of my 27 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: stronger themes is this is a structural shift in the 28 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: proportion of the population who will invest in residential property. 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: You're still going to have many people doing it, okay, 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: but you're not going to have shall we say, the 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: great unwashed doing it because I think it seems like 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: an easy thing to do, and I think I'm missing out. 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: That's gone. It means residential property is still a good, 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: viable investment for many people treating it as a business, 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: but there's just not going to be as many people 36 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: looking at doing that as was the case previously. They're 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: going to be looking for other assets to park savings 38 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: and for their retirement. 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: Tony Alexandi, you're telling us the foam is gone in 40 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: real estate investing FOMO. 41 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: In fact, in my recent survey, I had only eighteen 42 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: percent of agents saying they see FOMO and that was 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: what as of about five or so days ago, two 44 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: months ago, my previous survey at the start of December, 45 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: that was about twenty six percent of agents seeing FOMO. 46 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: Most of the two or three years before that it 47 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: was two to seven percent. So there is slight fear 48 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: of missing out out there, but it's not going up 49 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: all that much. I'd say it's going to remain relatively 50 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: low as we go through twenty six twenty seven because 51 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: the price movement just isn't going to make people think 52 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: I'll bet a hurry or we're going to run out 53 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: of stuff to buy, not with so much extra supply 54 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: still coming into the market. So for young home buyers, 55 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: this is what they've been waiting for. And for three 56 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: years now exactly, the young buyers have been driving the 57 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: residential real estate market, and we get an indication of 58 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: that from Totality who note that on average twenty one 59 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 2: percent of house sales go to first home buyers. It's 60 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: now almost twenty nine percent. So we're going to see 61 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: continuation of the part three years with the key drivers 62 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: in the market remain young buyers securing their first home 63 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: and hopefully at a time when Australia is becoming less 64 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: and less affordable in the housing market. It may encourage some, 65 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: in fact, to buy their first home here instead