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Speaker 2: Hello are you great Newzealanders And welcome to Mattain Tyler

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Speaker 2: Full Show Podcast number one six nine for Friday, the

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Speaker 2: twenty fifth of July twenty twenty five. And if you

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Speaker 2: listen to the end, there is a essentially a love

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Speaker 2: letter from the people of New Zealand towards professional wrestling

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Speaker 2: on the on the back of Hulk Hogan passing away

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Speaker 2: at seventy one, people love professional wrestle, just ringing in

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Speaker 2: talking about their favorite wrestlers. It was such a good hour.

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Speaker 2: It's such a fantastic time. It was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: But the whole show was good. Was clamping.

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Speaker 3: We had a lot of chat about clamping and people

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Speaker 3: being clammed on fairly.

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Speaker 2: Telly what and I was He had to go at

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Speaker 2: Buddy Australia and Izzie had to go a bloody Wellington

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Speaker 2: I mean, and there's a lot of love for Wellington

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Speaker 2: coming through the phone so to show I hope you

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Speaker 2: enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the league issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything between Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons News Talk

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. Welcome into Friday. Hope you're

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Speaker 3: doing well on this glorious stay hopefully for you where

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Speaker 3: if you're listening to this beautiful country of ourskday.

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Speaker 2: Man, get a Tyler, get everyone.

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Speaker 3: What a messive show we've got for you today, as

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Speaker 3: we always do on a Friday after three o'clock, New

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Speaker 3: Zealander of the Week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it will be yay. You've got any suggestions that

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Speaker 2: you thinks had an outsized effect on our great and

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Speaker 2: beautiful land over the past seven days since the text

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Speaker 2: on nine two nine two, Who should be the new

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Speaker 3: The week locking forward to that after three o'clock as well.

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Speaker 3: It is the big story of today and very sad story.

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Speaker 3: Stars from the sporting and entertainment industries are remembering Hulk

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Speaker 3: Hulk Hogan as a treasure and a trailblazer. Former w

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Speaker 3: w E chairman and CEO Vince McMahon paid tribute on

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Speaker 3: ex calling Hogan the greatest superstar of all time.

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Speaker 2: Man, what was the greatest wrestling era? We want to

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Speaker 2: talk about this and what do you think of Hogan? Look,

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Speaker 2: I love wrestling and I love the whole was a

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Speaker 2: holy maniac and but do you think it's a load

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Speaker 2: of stupid fake sport and everyone that likes it is

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Speaker 2: an idiot? Or if you're me, you just think Stone Cold,

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Speaker 2: Steve Austin, how great bloody much a man? Randy Savage,

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Speaker 2: so many names, Yeah, the Hitman, Heart, the Undertaker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been so many text about it already as well,

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Speaker 3: So looking forward to h Triple H, Diamond, Dallas Page,

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Speaker 2: That is Nick Foley has always been my favorite men kind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is going to be a great chat after

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Speaker 3: three o'clock. After two o'clock, a young Australian going home

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Speaker 3: after a year and Wellington has let loose online with

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Speaker 3: what he calls an awareness tirade about life in the capital.

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Speaker 3: He goes by the name Keshi and he attacks the cold, dark,

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Speaker 3: gloomy and depressing city as he goes back home to Queensland.

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Speaker 2: Is he wrong? Is he wrong? Wellington? How do you

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Speaker 2: thrive in a challenging climate? Because love Wellington, but that's

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Speaker 2: a challenging climate. There's no way that you can live

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Speaker 2: or visit Wellington without the climate being a huge discussion. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what's happening down there? But do you love Wellington? A

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Speaker 2: lot of people live there and there are no walls

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Speaker 2: around it. So what makes people love it? What makes

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Speaker 2: people stay? Have you loved it and left? Have you

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Speaker 2: loved it and stayed? What about other challenging environments. I

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Speaker 2: get hassled a lot for my love of Dunedin City,

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Speaker 2: good place, my hometown. I landed there the other day

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Speaker 2: and it was negative four cold. I love Tope or

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Speaker 2: it was negative four in top or today. You love

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Speaker 2: cold places, don't you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I love a cold past. This the whole thing. What

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Speaker 2: do you want from an environment? This goes from Queensland. Sure,

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Speaker 2: if you want the Queensland environment, it's all laid out

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Speaker 3: That is going to be a fantastic chat after talk Clod,

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Speaker 3: But right now, let's have a chat about clamping technology,

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Speaker 3: which allows cars owned by people who are evading paying

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Speaker 3: their court fines to be clammed or caes, is now

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Speaker 3: being used on the streets. According to Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith,

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Speaker 3: so bailiffs and now trialing these hand held devices that

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Speaker 3: the owners have overdue court fines or reparations. Here's Paul

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Speaker 3: Goldsmith as he explained to Mike Coskien this morning how

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Speaker 3: the scanning of number plates would actually work.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's the court bailiffs who have it, and so

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Speaker 5: they'll be alongside the police at checkpoints from tonight in

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Speaker 5: some places and scanning things. And you haven't paid your fine,

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Speaker 5: you better get yourself an uber or something like that

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Speaker 5: to get home because your car can be clamped.

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Speaker 6: What are you going to do with the cars?

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Speaker 5: Well, ultimately they can be sold or they can be

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Speaker 6: Do you think there will be a lot of cars

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Speaker 6: actually clamped? In other words, will this be affected?

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Speaker 5: I hope there is, because of the message needs to

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Speaker 5: get through that. You know, the rest of the country

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Speaker 5: is sick of people not paying their fines and not

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Speaker 5: dealing with the consequences of the things that they've done. Well,

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Speaker 5: there you go, and there's millions and millions are owing,

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Speaker 5: and you know, if people just don't pay the fines,

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Speaker 5: then the just the system has no teeth. Tyler, Absolutely

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Speaker 5: no teeth. But have you been wrongly clamped? Because how

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Speaker 5: incredibly frustrating would being wrongly clamped. I've been wrongly ticketed before,

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Speaker 2: Yep. Just screaming around using cameras to to drift net everyone.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how I'm not really sure exactly how

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Speaker 2: be getting this money. These court finds back off people,

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Speaker 2: and it seems to be quite hard to do it,

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Speaker 2: and this would definitely hit people hard who aren't paying

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Speaker 2: people start? If you haven't paid your taxes? Do they

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Speaker 2: start clamping? You know down there's a good point. You

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Speaker 2: know what else you haven't paid your rates? They start,

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Speaker 3: Know, child support clamp your house? Could could they clap

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Speaker 2: Could they? Could they be just could this just be

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Speaker 2: that the start of wherever your car is, it's being

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Speaker 2: scanned for hundreds of different different things or do you

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Speaker 2: think it's bloody good? And you know a lot of

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Speaker 2: this this, these these court fines for victims, and those

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Speaker 2: that is just going to continue to just do what

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Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to care. How do you feel about this technology being utilized?

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Speaker 3: Do you think it is needed or do you think

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Speaker 3: the court system exists now and baylists can still go

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Speaker 3: round and knock on the door and say it's such

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Speaker 3: and such hair because he owes a lot of money. No, well,

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Speaker 3: we're going to come back and we're going to take

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Speaker 2: And I bet there's a lot of people out there

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Speaker 2: listening who have been wrongly clamped. Yeah. Yeah. And also

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Speaker 2: does it just lead you know, when they say there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of graffiti in a neighborhood, or there's a

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Speaker 2: car that's been stolen and it's got the you know,

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Speaker 2: it's got the right up on it, the stick it's

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Speaker 2: been sticked right. Yeah, it just leads to sort of

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Speaker 2: a vibe of urban decay. So if we've got a

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Speaker 2: just having their cars clamped and they're just sitting on

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Speaker 2: the side of the road, I mean, is that is

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Speaker 2: that great? I could see that epening is that great

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Speaker 2: for society. Yeah, a bunch of creepy cars just clamped

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Speaker 2: on the side of the road. Oh wait, one hundred

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Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Love to

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Speaker 2: hear your thoughts about this technology being utilized. Are you

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Speaker 2: a fan or have you been wrongly clamped in the past.

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Speaker 3: Get on the phones. One hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: is the number to call. Twelve past one.

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Speaker 3: It'd be very good afternoon to you. We're talking about

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Speaker 3: the new technology being utilized by bailiffs. It's why they

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Speaker 3: say they're trialing these handheld devices, but it has been

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Speaker 3: rolled out around the country from tonight. According to Justice

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Speaker 3: Minister Paul Goldsmith, what these handheld devices will do will

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Speaker 3: scan cars as they go through a checkpoint or if

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Speaker 3: they parked on the side of the road, and if

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Speaker 3: they owe money to the courts or reparations, then they

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Speaker 2: Wow. So what's next? Getting your car clamped because you

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Speaker 2: haven't paid your fishing license. That's a big one. You're

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Speaker 2: both clamped. Please stop saying bloody, says Sam. Why, I

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Speaker 2: don't know. He just says, please stop saying bloody. Well,

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Speaker 2: he did say please, he did. I like that. I

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Speaker 2: like madam, but it isn't all catlocks, okay, yeah and

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Speaker 2: and yeah. So technically he yelled it via text, but

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Speaker 2: himself on the foot though, because by texting and police

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Speaker 2: stop saying bloody, I've now said bloody. Probably this is

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Speaker 2: probably the seventh time when I say bloody again. There

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Speaker 2: was it a curse when you said bloody?

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Speaker 8: Though?

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Speaker 2: Or is it just by my lady? Is what bloody

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Speaker 2: stands for?

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Speaker 8: Did you know?

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Speaker 9: Is that?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 2: is the number to call. Bertie? What do you think

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Speaker 2: about this clamping business.

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Speaker 10: Name boys? Well, I was going to ring mister Hoskins

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Speaker 10: about this or text him this morning, because if you

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Speaker 10: have thought, you've got to be careful if you buy

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Speaker 10: a calf in somebody privately, and if I've got hits

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Speaker 10: of fines on it, and if you don't check get

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Speaker 10: they're not going to be clear.

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Speaker 2: Bang on. Yeah, So I've had this situation myself. Bertie

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Speaker 2: where I bought a car off a friend and he

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Speaker 2: had reported it stolen, but it hadn't been stolen. He

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Speaker 2: just just doing some work and he parked at a

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Speaker 2: strange place but he never got back to them say

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Speaker 2: that that that it hadn't been stolen, and then he

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Speaker 2: sold it to me. And then I was at a

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Speaker 2: I was at a checkpoint and they and I was

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Speaker 2: completely sober, obviously, but they were like, this is a

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Speaker 2: stolen car, and I was like, it's not a sole

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Speaker 2: car and there was no way to prove that I

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Speaker 2: hadn't stolen the car.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, so sorry, Berty, But yeah, what happened at

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Speaker 3: that point, Matt?

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Speaker 2: Did they take you to pull over? I was there

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Speaker 2: for ages and I was trying to get my mate

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Speaker 2: Duncan on the phone. I shouldn't use his name, Duncan.

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Speaker 2: If you're listening, sorry, I've already said it now, there's

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Speaker 2: no way out twice Duncan Coles. But anyway, bloody, bloody

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Speaker 10: It was something funny at the petrol station, and they

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Speaker 2: So that did they talk to you and say they

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Speaker 10: No, no, no, that's right. And I was thinking that

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, you're going to approve that. Yeah, absolutely, think

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Speaker 2: Well, they're not going to clamp you for money owing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't think that's easy to find out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Linda, your thoughts on this, I'm just gonna get

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Speaker 11: Hi, how you.

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Speaker 12: Going, guys? There's something really simple you can do. You

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Speaker 12: dollars and it covers all of the car's history, absolutely everything. Money.

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Speaker 2: Oh, are you're right? Oh, Linda, Linda sounded like you

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Speaker 2: You've been attacked by pac man, Poor old Linda. We'll

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Speaker 2: I'm just on car jam now. A friend of mine. Wow,

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Speaker 2: I've been to card jam before because because it's my

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Speaker 2: wouldn't it. Card Jam. We're not just the history of cars.

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Speaker 3: I'd love to hear about the most fascinating card jam discoveries.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Christopher Luxan used to own my car. No, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm lying, You've never earned that, Okay, David, your thoughts

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Speaker 13: Oh.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, some years ago, I had a Valiant AF and

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Speaker 14: And they said, oh, yeah, but your son's got outstanding

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Speaker 2: Old was your son at the time, David?

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Speaker 14: He was a teenager, right, but he.

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Speaker 2: Hadn't got the parking fines driving your car.

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Speaker 14: No, that's no, Y had his own car.

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Speaker 2: son has that, that seems like a massive overreach. How

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Speaker 2: long ago was this, David, Oh.

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Speaker 14: Probably about ten years ago now. But at the time,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what the situation if they if they

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Speaker 14: Oh yes, I was at the time. I also thought, well,

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Speaker 11: And he did, Yes, he had to because.

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Speaker 14: Then I unclamped it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean that seems like an odd situation, David,

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Speaker 2: that that's my favorite shape for a Valiant. That's just

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Speaker 2: such a cool looking car. Oh what I love that,

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Speaker 3: this new technology that the bailiffs will carry to determine

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Speaker 2: What on a topic? We're getting to after three o'clock.

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Speaker 2: ultimate Warrior. When I was listening the greatest wrestlers of

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Speaker 2: all time? How can I miss that? Das has camera

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Speaker 3: But oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic hosking breakfast.

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Speaker 6: How about that week in butter Ray and is it

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Speaker 7: No, it is not.

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Speaker 6: In the midst of all of it was the Finance

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Speaker 6: Minister Nikola Willis, who as well as you looked like

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Speaker 6: you had a newsy in your handbag and you're going

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Speaker 6: then you came out went oh buggaman. Wasn't international markets, No,

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Speaker 15: I was very clear that commodity prices internationally are the

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Speaker 15: Fonterira in the supermarkets divide the costs and the margin.

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Speaker 6: But you know that, you know how they do it

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Speaker 15: I worked for Fontierra nine years ago. I never worked

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Speaker 6: Back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 2: You don't have to do anything different if you are using,

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Speaker 2: artet All. Project B twelve has always been a reliable

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Speaker 2: go to for treatment and control of cobalt deficiency ahead

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Speaker 2: of critical times such as carving, mating or lamming.

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Speaker 3: It's really easy to use, trusted by farmers nationwide and

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Speaker 2: It's pulling double duty in a super meaningful way this winter.

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Speaker 3: For every pack of prologecs sold to participating VET clinics,

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Speaker 3: that helps helps get quality food from farms to food banks.

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Speaker 2: Get on them. One pack, two meals. It is that simple,

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Speaker 3: Prolojet is registered a pursuance to the ACVM Act nineteen

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Speaker 3: And we aren't talking about new technology that will clamp

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Speaker 3: How do you feel about that? Oh, eight hundred and

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Speaker 3: By the way, Matton.

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Speaker 2: Tyler, bring on clamping, regio plate scanning. Pay your debts

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Speaker 2: and you have nothing to worry about. Too many dead

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Speaker 2: We could do with the millions they owe. Thanks from that, Craig. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: fair text that one, Linda, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 10: Yes.

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Speaker 16: I think what they'll get a lot of is the

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Speaker 2: Yes, so is this covering that as well?

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Speaker 9: Though?

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Speaker 2: So right now I understand I'm not. What we're talking

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Speaker 16: the police checkpoints, right, and that was who they were targeting,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you've got this situation. It's the same with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to get slammed for this, and that's okay.

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Speaker 3: So then they get clamped under this situation. What happens

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Speaker 3: does that is that a punishment that fits the crime?

437
00:20:36,933 --> 00:20:39,533
Speaker 3: In that scenario, You're going to get body slammed for this.

438
00:20:39,853 --> 00:20:41,773
Speaker 3: Come at me, Come at me, just.

439
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Speaker 2: You know, going back to the wrestling Motifa earlier, this

440
00:20:44,653 --> 00:20:47,253
Speaker 2: person would disagree with you. Hey, Matt and Tyler, I'm

441
00:20:47,293 --> 00:20:50,293
Speaker 2: all for the clamping. We've gone so soft, like Tyler

442
00:20:51,093 --> 00:20:53,573
Speaker 2: on the rules and regulations that we need a change

443
00:20:53,573 --> 00:20:57,413
Speaker 2: of mindset. People like Tyler often mentioned Singapore amazed at

444
00:20:57,413 --> 00:20:59,453
Speaker 2: how clean and tidy. I put that in there. They're

445
00:20:59,493 --> 00:21:00,293
Speaker 2: not mentioning you, Tyler.

446
00:21:00,333 --> 00:21:02,133
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, just think of the children. Think of

447
00:21:02,173 --> 00:21:02,573
Speaker 3: the children.

448
00:21:02,613 --> 00:21:05,173
Speaker 2: People often mentioned Singapore amazed at how clean and tidy

449
00:21:05,173 --> 00:21:07,013
Speaker 2: the place is. That's because you almost get thrown in

450
00:21:07,093 --> 00:21:10,093
Speaker 2: jail for dropping your bubblegumper. We need to toughen up.

451
00:21:10,453 --> 00:21:13,173
Speaker 2: And why have a law if you don't enforce it? Matt,

452
00:21:13,253 --> 00:21:16,493
Speaker 2: I mean that that's a good point. So why have

453
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Speaker 2: court fines if you're going to have a sort of

454
00:21:21,453 --> 00:21:26,373
Speaker 2: if there's a court fine, then what use is it

455
00:21:26,453 --> 00:21:29,893
Speaker 2: if it's not easily enforced? Right, I've set up for

456
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Speaker 2: this because the more that I think about it, the

457
00:21:31,693 --> 00:21:34,173
Speaker 2: more I've seen you've have set up straight and yourself.

458
00:21:33,893 --> 00:21:36,053
Speaker 3: Set up straight for this because the bailiff system already

459
00:21:36,093 --> 00:21:37,493
Speaker 3: exists that they can go and knock on the door

460
00:21:37,533 --> 00:21:39,653
Speaker 3: and track these people down and hopefully take their car

461
00:21:39,773 --> 00:21:42,173
Speaker 3: or take their furniture. And the very fact that they'll

462
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Speaker 3: clamp people on the street or I mean, yes, it's

463
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Speaker 3: going to send the message, but is that a punishment

464
00:21:48,093 --> 00:21:49,933
Speaker 3: that fits the crime for a lot of people out

465
00:21:49,933 --> 00:21:51,813
Speaker 3: there that if you just get them to court or

466
00:21:52,493 --> 00:21:54,573
Speaker 3: get to the point where you've got the bailiff knocking

467
00:21:54,573 --> 00:21:56,693
Speaker 3: on the door, that sends a very clear message that

468
00:21:56,733 --> 00:21:58,413
Speaker 3: if you don't sort your stuff out, then we're going

469
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Speaker 3: to take it further and.

470
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Speaker 2: Costs to have bailiffs out there knocking on all these

471
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Speaker 2: doors in the time when you can just have a

472
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Speaker 2: car that's zooming around at fifty kilometers now, or thanks

473
00:22:07,213 --> 00:22:10,613
Speaker 2: to the ridiculus Council, we've got an Auckland screaming around

474
00:22:10,613 --> 00:22:16,533
Speaker 2: at thirty kilometers now, paying people on the roads. Yeah,

475
00:22:16,533 --> 00:22:20,293
Speaker 2: I look, and then they just make momb Then they

476
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Speaker 2: just make the call and the clamp turns up.

477
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Speaker 3: What do you say, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

478
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Speaker 3: is the number of call we got headlines with railing

479
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Speaker 3: coming up.

480
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Speaker 2: Then more of your calls.

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Speaker 17: US talk said, be headlines with blue bubble taxis It's

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Speaker 17: no trouble with a blue bubble. A top US Justice

483
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Speaker 17: Department official will continue discussions with Gillan Maxwell again tomorrow,

484
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Speaker 17: as her lawyer confirms no topic was off the table today.

485
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Speaker 17: Maxwell is the accomplice to the late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

486
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Speaker 17: She's serving a twenty year sentence. The Justice Minister's defending

487
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Speaker 17: moves to adjust electoral enrollment rules despite the Ministry's warning

488
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Speaker 17: the government's looking at stopping the ability to enroll while voting.

489
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Speaker 17: A Usaid agency says children wasting away from hunger are

490
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Speaker 17: overwhelming a guards and emergency center, with doctors unable to

491
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492
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Speaker 17: One person has died following a two vehicle crash on

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Speaker 17: State Highway thirty near Waikatos Atia Murdi this morning. It's

494
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Speaker 17: Red Nose Day today. The organization behind it says it

495
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Speaker 17: Cure Kids says cuts to research budgets have placed strain

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500
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Speaker 17: to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylean, and we're talking about the

502
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Speaker 3: new technology that will clamp cars who oh or their

503
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Speaker 3: owners o court fines at whether the parked on the

504
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Speaker 3: street or at checkpoints. How do you feel about that?

505
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Speaker 3: At one hundred and eighteen.

506
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Speaker 2: Eighty, Why is everybody falling for this heavy stuff by government?

507
00:24:06,213 --> 00:24:10,493
Speaker 2: If other side had did it half this stuff, you

508
00:24:10,533 --> 00:24:14,813
Speaker 2: would okay, I'm going to have to paraphrase this if

509
00:24:14,853 --> 00:24:17,493
Speaker 2: the other half, if the other side had did half

510
00:24:17,573 --> 00:24:19,933
Speaker 2: this stuff, you would be calling it granny state. No

511
00:24:19,973 --> 00:24:23,173
Speaker 2: one calls anything granny state. One more thing kept to

512
00:24:23,293 --> 00:24:25,973
Speaker 2: one more and I can't believe how you all are

513
00:24:26,053 --> 00:24:26,653
Speaker 2: sucking up.

514
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Speaker 3: Okay, it's hard to fu gins early in the day.

515
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Speaker 3: You figure that one out.

516
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but no. But so they're saying, if basically what

517
00:24:34,773 --> 00:24:39,053
Speaker 2: she's saying, if Labor and the Greens were still in

518
00:24:39,133 --> 00:24:41,653
Speaker 2: power they were for six years and they were doing this,

519
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Speaker 2: she is suggesting that we'd be calling it granny state,

520
00:24:46,733 --> 00:24:50,933
Speaker 2: probably more likely nanny state. But historically speaking, Labor and

521
00:24:50,973 --> 00:24:56,653
Speaker 2: the Greens aren't as hard on crime as New Zealand

522
00:24:56,693 --> 00:25:00,853
Speaker 2: First National and Act, so it's not really their mo

523
00:25:00,893 --> 00:25:02,933
Speaker 2: o not to do this kind of thing. I wouldn't

524
00:25:02,933 --> 00:25:04,773
Speaker 2: think so, I don't think it's I don't think you're

525
00:25:04,813 --> 00:25:06,773
Speaker 2: right there. I don't think you're right. But we love

526
00:25:06,813 --> 00:25:09,213
Speaker 2: your opinion. Thank you so much for it, LEVI welcome

527
00:25:09,213 --> 00:25:12,733
Speaker 2: to the show. Yeah here you got Yeah, good mate.

528
00:25:12,733 --> 00:25:13,572
Speaker 2: What's your take on it?

529
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Speaker 11: I kind of want to.

530
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Speaker 4: Give a quick call.

531
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Speaker 18: It's kind of covering that I work in the kind

532
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Speaker 18: of car dealership scene. I've been in the industry for

533
00:25:21,133 --> 00:25:23,213
Speaker 18: about four or five years now, and to be honest,

534
00:25:23,253 --> 00:25:27,533
Speaker 18: there's quite a few issues for people who are buying

535
00:25:28,053 --> 00:25:31,173
Speaker 18: privately with our system of change of ownership I mean

536
00:25:31,253 --> 00:25:33,893
Speaker 18: finance being one of them. You know, you don't get

537
00:25:33,933 --> 00:25:36,973
Speaker 18: any warnings prior to buying a car that'll let you know, hey, listen,

538
00:25:37,013 --> 00:25:39,253
Speaker 18: there's there's a security on this vehicle, there's money owing

539
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Speaker 18: on it, or as you say, like tickets.

540
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Speaker 11: And things like that.

541
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Speaker 18: But another one that we've actually been dealing with recently

542
00:25:44,693 --> 00:25:46,973
Speaker 18: that's quite a big issue is you can walk up

543
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Speaker 18: to any vehicle, grab that number plate and stick it

544
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Speaker 18: into the change of ownership system and now, according to

545
00:25:52,533 --> 00:25:56,013
Speaker 18: nz inta system, you actually own that vehicle. So you

546
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Speaker 18: don't need to be talking to this person, making any

547
00:25:57,973 --> 00:26:01,493
Speaker 18: payments or anything like that, and you technically become an

548
00:26:01,493 --> 00:26:04,213
Speaker 18: owner of that vehicle even though you've done nothing. And

549
00:26:04,453 --> 00:26:07,013
Speaker 18: this is kind of a big part of the issue

550
00:26:07,013 --> 00:26:09,893
Speaker 18: that we deal with is the New Zealand change of

551
00:26:09,893 --> 00:26:13,213
Speaker 18: ownership system just really isn't up to spec.

552
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Speaker 2: So to get round say court fines, for example, would

553
00:26:16,413 --> 00:26:18,173
Speaker 2: it be very easy for someone just to change the

554
00:26:18,213 --> 00:26:20,853
Speaker 2: ownership of the car to I don't know, their partner

555
00:26:20,973 --> 00:26:23,053
Speaker 2: or their brother or cousin or something.

556
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Speaker 11: Yeah, so you could.

557
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Speaker 18: Kind of just change it to anybody's name that that

558
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Speaker 18: person they're not going.

559
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Speaker 2: To I see what you're saying, so, just some stranger

560
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Speaker 2: I could just change without telling Tyler. I could change

561
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Speaker 2: the ownership to Tyler. Next thing, you know, yeah, what

562
00:26:38,693 --> 00:26:39,133
Speaker 2: that happened?

563
00:26:39,213 --> 00:26:41,973
Speaker 18: Yes, that that or Tyler, for instance, could say Tyler

564
00:26:42,013 --> 00:26:43,813
Speaker 18: walked down the street and when I that that car

565
00:26:43,853 --> 00:26:45,693
Speaker 18: looks quite good, I'll put that in my name. Not

566
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Speaker 18: that he's obviously going to be able to drive the

567
00:26:47,133 --> 00:26:50,053
Speaker 18: car anything, but he could stick that rigeau plate into

568
00:26:50,133 --> 00:26:53,173
Speaker 18: the change of ownership system and then, according to ndtiates

569
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Speaker 18: their car. So I dealt with this recently with a

570
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Speaker 18: traveler from Europe who was down in the South Island

571
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Speaker 18: do some travel and a van, and she went to

572
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Speaker 18: come sell her car to us, and I just said, hey, listen,

573
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Speaker 18: I can actually see on our side that you actually

574
00:27:05,613 --> 00:27:06,133
Speaker 18: don't own the car.

575
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Speaker 11: It's not in your name.

576
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Speaker 18: She said, well, that's weird, because you know, I bore

577
00:27:08,413 --> 00:27:10,733
Speaker 18: car and I could see that she had at one point,

578
00:27:10,773 --> 00:27:14,813
Speaker 18: you know, the vehicle was in her name, but someone

579
00:27:14,813 --> 00:27:16,533
Speaker 18: had obviously walked on the street and just grabbed the

580
00:27:16,533 --> 00:27:18,813
Speaker 18: regiroplate stuck in the system, and then she had to

581
00:27:18,813 --> 00:27:21,773
Speaker 18: go through this whole kind of process of calling in

582
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Speaker 18: ZTA and getting them to prove that she's actually the

583
00:27:26,093 --> 00:27:28,333
Speaker 18: owner of the car to put it back into her name.

584
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Speaker 18: And it's not obviously a hugely common issue, but it's

585
00:27:32,413 --> 00:27:35,373
Speaker 18: definitely something that we deal with in the dealership side

586
00:27:35,373 --> 00:27:37,293
Speaker 18: of things. But especially with what you're talking about with

587
00:27:37,333 --> 00:27:40,453
Speaker 18: court fines and financing, I definitely think they need to

588
00:27:40,533 --> 00:27:42,853
Speaker 18: update it so that if you are buying privately, there's

589
00:27:42,853 --> 00:27:44,933
Speaker 18: at least a warning that pops up before you buy

590
00:27:44,973 --> 00:27:47,893
Speaker 18: the car. Do in the paperwork that says, hey, listen,

591
00:27:47,973 --> 00:27:50,653
Speaker 18: there is financing, because there just isn't you know, if

592
00:27:50,693 --> 00:27:53,533
Speaker 18: you're buying a car privately, you won't get those warnings. Obviously,

593
00:27:54,253 --> 00:27:56,333
Speaker 18: with buying from a dealership, you don't have any of

594
00:27:56,333 --> 00:27:58,333
Speaker 18: those issues because we do all the checks and obviously

595
00:27:58,373 --> 00:28:00,613
Speaker 18: all that. But as a private buyer, there is a

596
00:28:00,613 --> 00:28:02,813
Speaker 18: lot of risk going into that because there is just

597
00:28:02,933 --> 00:28:05,733
Speaker 18: no way for you to prove without, as that person said,

598
00:28:05,773 --> 00:28:08,973
Speaker 18: previously paying twenty dollars and getting a car jam. There

599
00:28:09,013 --> 00:28:11,493
Speaker 18: really is no free way to actually just check that

600
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Speaker 18: in the system.

601
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Speaker 2: It's interesting that that is so easy to do when

602
00:28:15,133 --> 00:28:18,213
Speaker 2: everything else is so incredibly complex. Just speaking from my

603
00:28:18,253 --> 00:28:20,733
Speaker 2: own perspective, when I had to recently get a parking

604
00:28:20,773 --> 00:28:22,413
Speaker 2: permit to park on the street in front of my

605
00:28:22,453 --> 00:28:24,453
Speaker 2: house so it didn't get towed when there were events

606
00:28:24,493 --> 00:28:26,933
Speaker 2: in the area. I basically had to strip naked, set

607
00:28:26,973 --> 00:28:29,733
Speaker 2: myself on fire, and climb to the top of the

608
00:28:29,773 --> 00:28:32,253
Speaker 2: tree and scream for three days to get it done.

609
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Speaker 4: And yet, yeah, I can imagine that, And yet.

610
00:28:34,933 --> 00:28:37,373
Speaker 2: This thing which seems so much more important than just

611
00:28:37,413 --> 00:28:39,493
Speaker 2: parking in front of your own house that your own

612
00:28:40,293 --> 00:28:42,213
Speaker 2: is so easy to do.

613
00:28:43,373 --> 00:28:47,253
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's definitely a big issue. I think our kind

614
00:28:47,293 --> 00:28:52,133
Speaker 18: of change of ownership system is very, very outdated, and

615
00:28:52,333 --> 00:28:54,933
Speaker 18: it really does need an update because it is just

616
00:28:55,013 --> 00:28:57,093
Speaker 18: yet one of those big issues that you deal with

617
00:28:57,853 --> 00:28:59,853
Speaker 18: private buyers. And obviously a lot of people don't have

618
00:29:00,613 --> 00:29:02,853
Speaker 18: the luxury of going to dealerships or they prefer to

619
00:29:02,853 --> 00:29:05,533
Speaker 18: buy privately sometimes and when you're going through that, you

620
00:29:05,573 --> 00:29:08,413
Speaker 18: definitely take on that risk of not knowing the on

621
00:29:08,493 --> 00:29:11,893
Speaker 18: a previous history of the vehicle. I mean, another big

622
00:29:11,933 --> 00:29:14,213
Speaker 18: one that we deal with it dealerships that I've met

623
00:29:14,373 --> 00:29:16,493
Speaker 18: many people who were never told because they bought the

624
00:29:16,533 --> 00:29:19,413
Speaker 18: car privately, is that it's very common for cars from

625
00:29:19,413 --> 00:29:22,173
Speaker 18: Australia to come into this country written off and they'll

626
00:29:22,173 --> 00:29:24,813
Speaker 18: get reregistered, but there'll be no tag that says, hey,

627
00:29:24,813 --> 00:29:28,573
Speaker 18: listen and this was a written off vehicle previously, and

628
00:29:28,653 --> 00:29:31,373
Speaker 18: someone will buy it with absolutely zero knowledge of that

629
00:29:31,493 --> 00:29:33,893
Speaker 18: happening previously. And I think that a big part of

630
00:29:33,933 --> 00:29:36,773
Speaker 18: that is just how outdated our system is. I definitely

631
00:29:36,773 --> 00:29:39,013
Speaker 18: think there needs to be some sort of change that

632
00:29:39,173 --> 00:29:41,533
Speaker 18: just allows a little bit more security for you know,

633
00:29:41,533 --> 00:29:44,373
Speaker 18: people who are buying vehicles privately, to not have to

634
00:29:44,453 --> 00:29:47,413
Speaker 18: worry so much and take on so much risk when

635
00:29:47,493 --> 00:29:48,973
Speaker 18: just you know, simply buying a car.

636
00:29:49,973 --> 00:29:51,893
Speaker 2: But do you have to have someone saying here, you

637
00:29:51,973 --> 00:29:54,413
Speaker 2: have to have the current owners driver's license number to

638
00:29:54,453 --> 00:29:56,493
Speaker 2: be able to change the vehicle ownership? Is that great?

639
00:29:57,373 --> 00:29:57,533
Speaker 4: No?

640
00:29:57,653 --> 00:29:58,173
Speaker 7: So yes?

641
00:29:58,293 --> 00:30:01,133
Speaker 18: In person. So there's there's a written format a dealership

642
00:30:01,173 --> 00:30:02,653
Speaker 18: if you were to go buy a car, If if

643
00:30:02,693 --> 00:30:05,213
Speaker 18: you've bought the car dealership, you'll fill out a form

644
00:30:05,293 --> 00:30:07,773
Speaker 18: and you'll have to have a driver's license start. If

645
00:30:07,773 --> 00:30:10,373
Speaker 18: you're doing it privately, you'll basically type into your phone,

646
00:30:10,493 --> 00:30:12,693
Speaker 18: I've sold a car, and you know, if you're the owner,

647
00:30:12,693 --> 00:30:14,653
Speaker 18: you'll fill out the performances that you were the owner

648
00:30:14,653 --> 00:30:16,373
Speaker 18: and you're selling it, and if you're buying it, you'll

649
00:30:16,413 --> 00:30:18,813
Speaker 18: fill out the site that says that you're buying it online,

650
00:30:18,973 --> 00:30:21,533
Speaker 18: but you can actually just do that I'm buying it

651
00:30:21,613 --> 00:30:23,693
Speaker 18: part and the owner doesn't even have to fill out

652
00:30:23,733 --> 00:30:27,013
Speaker 18: that I've sold it part. And in NZTA system you

653
00:30:27,093 --> 00:30:29,813
Speaker 18: are technically the owner. Now when it comes when you

654
00:30:29,933 --> 00:30:32,293
Speaker 18: kind of bury it down to everything, you still are

655
00:30:32,333 --> 00:30:35,813
Speaker 18: the official owner. But when it comes up into MCTA system, right,

656
00:30:36,173 --> 00:30:38,613
Speaker 18: the name of the current owner whoever just filled out

657
00:30:38,653 --> 00:30:39,533
Speaker 18: that form will be at.

658
00:30:39,493 --> 00:30:40,213
Speaker 19: The top of that list.

659
00:30:40,253 --> 00:30:40,453
Speaker 20: That is.

660
00:30:40,973 --> 00:30:43,533
Speaker 2: And then and then yeah, when the whole clamping things

661
00:30:43,533 --> 00:30:45,013
Speaker 2: comes into it, that could be interesting. Thank you so

662
00:30:45,093 --> 00:30:46,733
Speaker 2: much for your call, Leve. I really appreciate it.

663
00:30:46,733 --> 00:30:48,613
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty Z number to

664
00:30:48,693 --> 00:30:50,173
Speaker 3: call the.

665
00:30:49,973 --> 00:30:53,933
Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and everything

666
00:30:53,973 --> 00:30:57,613
Speaker 1: in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used talks

667
00:30:57,613 --> 00:30:57,973
Speaker 1: that'd be.

668
00:30:58,053 --> 00:31:00,013
Speaker 3: Quarter to two having a great discussion about this new

669
00:31:00,013 --> 00:31:01,173
Speaker 3: clamping technology.

670
00:31:01,293 --> 00:31:02,733
Speaker 2: So what it means is the bailiffs.

671
00:31:02,773 --> 00:31:05,453
Speaker 3: I've got the hand how little devices and if you

672
00:31:05,453 --> 00:31:07,213
Speaker 3: owe court fines and you go through a checkpoint or

673
00:31:07,253 --> 00:31:09,613
Speaker 3: they spot your car parked on the streets, they will

674
00:31:09,653 --> 00:31:10,133
Speaker 3: clamp you.

675
00:31:10,373 --> 00:31:11,893
Speaker 2: Well, I imagine it would work like this. You'd have

676
00:31:11,893 --> 00:31:14,813
Speaker 2: one of those cars that drives around at paced scanning everyone.

677
00:31:14,893 --> 00:31:17,093
Speaker 2: Then they contact a bailiff to do the final check

678
00:31:17,133 --> 00:31:19,613
Speaker 2: to make sure that there's something wrong, and then someone

679
00:31:19,613 --> 00:31:22,213
Speaker 2: comes around and clamps you. Right, Yeah, so they could

680
00:31:22,293 --> 00:31:23,893
Speaker 2: drift need a whole lot of people. The clamping of

681
00:31:23,893 --> 00:31:26,453
Speaker 2: the cars won't work, Scissus text to people will just

682
00:31:26,613 --> 00:31:29,173
Speaker 2: change the name of the car it's regis to therefore

683
00:31:29,173 --> 00:31:31,893
Speaker 2: won't be able to be clamped. They're not the official owner.

684
00:31:32,053 --> 00:31:34,773
Speaker 2: They could change it to wife, girlfriend, mum, or dad.

685
00:31:34,973 --> 00:31:37,813
Speaker 2: As we said before, until we follow through with punishments

686
00:31:37,813 --> 00:31:40,493
Speaker 2: for crimes, siss text and stop making excuses for those

687
00:31:40,533 --> 00:31:43,133
Speaker 2: who break the law. We're putting out the message that

688
00:31:43,213 --> 00:31:45,413
Speaker 2: it's okay, and I tend to agree with that, because

689
00:31:45,453 --> 00:31:48,053
Speaker 2: there might be the odd problem with the situation, right,

690
00:31:48,413 --> 00:31:52,213
Speaker 2: and they might they're the odd clamping that's incorrect or such,

691
00:31:52,293 --> 00:31:54,173
Speaker 2: and there might be people that are trying to get

692
00:31:54,173 --> 00:31:57,573
Speaker 2: around the system. But if it's another way to get

693
00:31:57,613 --> 00:32:00,333
Speaker 2: people to pay their court fines, many of what you're

694
00:32:00,333 --> 00:32:04,253
Speaker 2: supposed to go to victims, then surely we can beat

695
00:32:04,293 --> 00:32:06,053
Speaker 2: out the system and make it work. What do you reckon.

696
00:32:06,133 --> 00:32:06,333
Speaker 8: Yeah.

697
00:32:06,373 --> 00:32:08,213
Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

698
00:32:08,213 --> 00:32:10,253
Speaker 2: of call Andrew welcome to the show.

699
00:32:11,373 --> 00:32:13,253
Speaker 4: Hey, guys, how's it going excellent?

700
00:32:14,853 --> 00:32:17,893
Speaker 19: Hey, Similar to the last caller, I'm in the vehicle

701
00:32:17,973 --> 00:32:21,253
Speaker 19: data industry here and a couple of points. It's it's

702
00:32:21,293 --> 00:32:23,933
Speaker 19: not quite as simple to change ownership like he was saying.

703
00:32:24,213 --> 00:32:26,573
Speaker 19: So with m d t A, it does require two parts.

704
00:32:26,653 --> 00:32:28,893
Speaker 19: The buyer fills in a form to say that they've

705
00:32:28,893 --> 00:32:31,133
Speaker 19: bought the vehicle, but also the seller has to fill

706
00:32:31,173 --> 00:32:33,133
Speaker 19: in a form with their driver license details that says

707
00:32:33,133 --> 00:32:34,893
Speaker 19: they've sold it. And it's only when those two things

708
00:32:34,933 --> 00:32:37,973
Speaker 19: marry up that that ownership record officially changes with nd

709
00:32:38,053 --> 00:32:40,373
Speaker 19: T A. And so if only one half of that

710
00:32:40,493 --> 00:32:42,853
Speaker 19: is done by someone looking to do it for the

711
00:32:42,853 --> 00:32:44,933
Speaker 19: wrong reasons, it would sort of been an unconfirmed state

712
00:32:45,013 --> 00:32:47,733
Speaker 19: for a while there until the until the second part.

713
00:32:47,653 --> 00:32:50,893
Speaker 2: Doesn't, But it would it still be in some form

714
00:32:50,973 --> 00:32:52,053
Speaker 2: on the on the records.

715
00:32:53,573 --> 00:32:55,613
Speaker 19: Yeah, I'm sure at m DTAs in they can probably

716
00:32:55,613 --> 00:32:59,573
Speaker 19: see both details the current unconfirmed owner and the and

717
00:32:59,613 --> 00:33:02,533
Speaker 19: the previous owner. It's also not this is in down

718
00:33:02,573 --> 00:33:04,373
Speaker 19: to the details, but it's not considered an owner as

719
00:33:04,413 --> 00:33:06,493
Speaker 19: far as nj TA is concerned. So the n c

720
00:33:06,613 --> 00:33:09,893
Speaker 19: t A don't manage a ownership record of vehicles. It's

721
00:33:09,893 --> 00:33:12,453
Speaker 19: they call it the registered person. It's basically the address

722
00:33:12,533 --> 00:33:15,893
Speaker 19: that that vehicle is registered to and the person responsible

723
00:33:15,933 --> 00:33:18,213
Speaker 19: for it. That that you know, registration and WAFT and

724
00:33:18,213 --> 00:33:20,693
Speaker 19: all that stuff is dealt to. But it's not it's

725
00:33:20,693 --> 00:33:24,453
Speaker 19: not a record of ownership as such. And I think

726
00:33:24,493 --> 00:33:27,413
Speaker 19: and also when it comes to the finds, they will

727
00:33:27,413 --> 00:33:30,253
Speaker 19: be issued to the person via the courts. And while

728
00:33:30,293 --> 00:33:32,053
Speaker 19: they might have the ability to look up what car

729
00:33:32,133 --> 00:33:35,493
Speaker 19: that person has registered to their name, if you sold

730
00:33:35,493 --> 00:33:38,413
Speaker 19: that car normally and change of ownership was done properly,

731
00:33:39,293 --> 00:33:40,973
Speaker 19: I don't think any of the fines would be attached

732
00:33:40,973 --> 00:33:42,933
Speaker 19: to that car. They're attached to that person when they

733
00:33:42,933 --> 00:33:45,213
Speaker 19: go through the court system.

734
00:33:45,133 --> 00:33:48,173
Speaker 2: Right, But so just get straight. But they'll be attached

735
00:33:48,213 --> 00:33:50,733
Speaker 2: to that person and that person if they're attached to

736
00:33:50,773 --> 00:33:55,333
Speaker 2: a number plate, then that car is up to be

737
00:33:55,413 --> 00:33:59,413
Speaker 2: clamped by for the court for the court finds. If

738
00:33:59,413 --> 00:34:00,053
Speaker 2: you see what I'm.

739
00:33:59,893 --> 00:34:03,213
Speaker 19: Saying, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, But if you're looking about the

740
00:34:03,293 --> 00:34:05,773
Speaker 19: risk of getting wrongly clammed, right, if you've bought a

741
00:34:05,813 --> 00:34:08,813
Speaker 19: car privately, legitimately and done the change of ownership, you know,

742
00:34:08,893 --> 00:34:12,133
Speaker 19: as normal. I doubt you'd be wrongly clammed because they're

743
00:34:12,172 --> 00:34:14,372
Speaker 19: going to look up that number plate and go, it's

744
00:34:14,373 --> 00:34:16,573
Speaker 19: not associated with the guy that we're interested anymore.

745
00:34:16,693 --> 00:34:18,773
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, But I guess quite an easy way to

746
00:34:18,773 --> 00:34:20,853
Speaker 2: get around the situation is if you knew that you

747
00:34:20,933 --> 00:34:22,813
Speaker 2: had court fines and you want to drive around in

748
00:34:22,853 --> 00:34:25,413
Speaker 2: your car, then you would just simply find someone in

749
00:34:25,413 --> 00:34:28,173
Speaker 2: your family, like your sister or something, and say, is

750
00:34:28,173 --> 00:34:31,333
Speaker 2: this cool if we change ownership of my car into

751
00:34:31,413 --> 00:34:34,933
Speaker 2: your name so I can keep driving around without getting

752
00:34:34,933 --> 00:34:37,973
Speaker 2: it clamp. That seems like a pretty simple workaround you

753
00:34:38,373 --> 00:34:40,053
Speaker 2: if you knew someone, if you've got a buddy or

754
00:34:40,093 --> 00:34:41,573
Speaker 2: a family member that's willing to.

755
00:34:41,573 --> 00:34:45,093
Speaker 19: Do it, Yeah, and providing you've got those parties willing

756
00:34:45,133 --> 00:34:47,293
Speaker 19: to fill in their forms with their driver licenses, that

757
00:34:47,333 --> 00:34:48,973
Speaker 19: would work. So you have to use someone that you

758
00:34:49,013 --> 00:34:50,813
Speaker 19: know rather than a stranger.

759
00:34:50,893 --> 00:34:54,973
Speaker 2: And someone's already got court fines, and then you probably

760
00:34:54,973 --> 00:34:57,773
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to get involved, but you know people do exactly. Yeah,

761
00:34:57,893 --> 00:34:58,453
Speaker 2: well you did.

762
00:34:58,493 --> 00:35:00,053
Speaker 19: You used to be a fee to do that change

763
00:35:00,053 --> 00:35:02,573
Speaker 19: of ownership, which might have deterred they're not paying court

764
00:35:02,613 --> 00:35:05,413
Speaker 19: finds they're probably not paying a fee to change ownership either,

765
00:35:05,413 --> 00:35:08,133
Speaker 19: but it's free now when changed a bunch of fees

766
00:35:08,133 --> 00:35:08,853
Speaker 19: are this sort.

767
00:35:08,773 --> 00:35:10,652
Speaker 2: Of thing, So yeah, could it not work the other way?

768
00:35:10,693 --> 00:35:13,653
Speaker 3: Andrew that someone who owns a lot of court finds

769
00:35:13,653 --> 00:35:15,573
Speaker 3: they buy a car on the secondhand market and they

770
00:35:15,573 --> 00:35:18,453
Speaker 3: buy from someone who is a legitimate member of society,

771
00:35:18,493 --> 00:35:20,853
Speaker 3: and then that person who buys the card doesn't change

772
00:35:21,133 --> 00:35:23,653
Speaker 3: the ownership because they know that they owe court finds.

773
00:35:24,373 --> 00:35:26,013
Speaker 3: Is that a scenario that could play.

774
00:35:25,813 --> 00:35:31,613
Speaker 19: Out, Yeah, potentially, But in that case, the legitimate person

775
00:35:31,693 --> 00:35:34,453
Speaker 19: that you know, because the change of ownership requires two

776
00:35:34,613 --> 00:35:36,533
Speaker 19: parts to be completed, one from the buyer and one

777
00:35:36,533 --> 00:35:39,453
Speaker 19: from the seller. If there's a legitimate party involved on

778
00:35:39,533 --> 00:35:42,293
Speaker 19: either side, they're going to complete their part, which, as

779
00:35:42,293 --> 00:35:44,692
Speaker 19: far as DTA is concerned, will put it in sort

780
00:35:44,693 --> 00:35:48,053
Speaker 19: of an unconfirmed state. And so I imagine you think

781
00:35:48,093 --> 00:35:50,413
Speaker 19: if the bailiffs are with the police at a checkpoint,

782
00:35:50,413 --> 00:35:52,172
Speaker 19: the police have access to look up all of those

783
00:35:52,533 --> 00:35:56,013
Speaker 19: records and stuff, and so yeah, yeah, I guess there's

784
00:35:56,013 --> 00:35:58,013
Speaker 19: always a way to exploit it, but you've got to

785
00:35:58,013 --> 00:35:58,533
Speaker 19: try something.

786
00:35:59,493 --> 00:36:02,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so having bailiffs at police roadblocks, is that

787
00:36:02,693 --> 00:36:03,173
Speaker 3: a good idea.

788
00:36:05,493 --> 00:36:07,893
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think similar to what Matt was just saying.

789
00:36:07,973 --> 00:36:10,573
Speaker 19: It might not work hundred percent at the time. But

790
00:36:10,693 --> 00:36:13,293
Speaker 19: if if you're knocking on addresses that you've got for

791
00:36:13,333 --> 00:36:15,493
Speaker 19: people and they're not there because they've given a bogus

792
00:36:15,493 --> 00:36:17,253
Speaker 19: address or they've moved in with a mate or whatever

793
00:36:17,293 --> 00:36:19,253
Speaker 19: to get around it, and you can't track them down,

794
00:36:19,333 --> 00:36:21,413
Speaker 19: but you see their car packed up then and they've

795
00:36:21,453 --> 00:36:23,373
Speaker 19: got something out saying, and then why not you can't

796
00:36:23,413 --> 00:36:24,013
Speaker 19: get the money.

797
00:36:23,853 --> 00:36:24,212
Speaker 4: Out of them?

798
00:36:24,413 --> 00:36:27,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean I imagine just firing a car

799
00:36:27,333 --> 00:36:29,973
Speaker 2: around with cameras at high speed, just pinging everyone and

800
00:36:29,973 --> 00:36:34,453
Speaker 2: then contacting the bailiff at that point would catch more people.

801
00:36:34,813 --> 00:36:38,013
Speaker 19: You know, was good enough for good enough for parking fines,

802
00:36:38,013 --> 00:36:39,413
Speaker 19: then good enough for court fines.

803
00:36:39,253 --> 00:36:41,453
Speaker 2: Right, yea, yeah, very true. That would be the thinking.

804
00:36:42,213 --> 00:36:44,693
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

805
00:36:44,733 --> 00:36:46,773
Speaker 3: to call. It is nine to two.

806
00:36:48,253 --> 00:36:51,813
Speaker 1: Matdis Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh eight hundred

807
00:36:51,813 --> 00:36:53,093
Speaker 1: and eighty Tight, it's.

808
00:36:53,013 --> 00:36:55,853
Speaker 7: Mad Heathen Tyler Adams Afternoons.

809
00:36:55,333 --> 00:36:59,692
Speaker 3: News dogsb news Dogs theb It is six minutes too too.

810
00:36:59,693 --> 00:37:01,933
Speaker 3: When we are talking about this new clamping technology that

811
00:37:02,013 --> 00:37:02,573
Speaker 3: is coming.

812
00:37:02,333 --> 00:37:03,333
Speaker 2: Into into play.

813
00:37:03,453 --> 00:37:06,613
Speaker 3: If you owe court fines and you will stop by police,

814
00:37:06,973 --> 00:37:09,093
Speaker 3: then you highly likely will get clamps.

815
00:37:09,093 --> 00:37:09,893
Speaker 2: So how do you feel about that?

816
00:37:09,853 --> 00:37:09,973
Speaker 13: Oh?

817
00:37:10,013 --> 00:37:12,533
Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty ten eighty Yeah, And the wide

818
00:37:12,533 --> 00:37:14,413
Speaker 2: a thing of cameras, right, isn't it? Isn't that where

819
00:37:14,413 --> 00:37:17,493
Speaker 2: it really sits with them zooming around and pinging you

820
00:37:17,853 --> 00:37:21,413
Speaker 2: and sending in the BA bailiffs. Okay, Wayne, welcome the

821
00:37:21,453 --> 00:37:23,413
Speaker 2: show over there.

822
00:37:23,893 --> 00:37:26,693
Speaker 21: Ye mate, there half an hour and I was driving

823
00:37:26,733 --> 00:37:28,893
Speaker 21: along and I heard you talking about cries and a

824
00:37:28,973 --> 00:37:34,453
Speaker 21: HEMI piser Oh yes, Well, in nineteen sixty seven I

825
00:37:34,533 --> 00:37:37,613
Speaker 21: owned one of those. It was my pride and joy. Yeah,

826
00:37:37,653 --> 00:37:40,733
Speaker 21: I had the opportunity by business for eight thousand dollars,

827
00:37:41,053 --> 00:37:43,053
Speaker 21: so I sold the business. I sold the car for

828
00:37:43,093 --> 00:37:48,213
Speaker 21: eight thousand dollars the business and it made billions.

829
00:37:48,093 --> 00:37:48,773
Speaker 13: Over the years.

830
00:37:48,893 --> 00:37:51,413
Speaker 2: Oh, hanging right, the business did the business?

831
00:37:51,413 --> 00:37:51,973
Speaker 4: Did say?

832
00:37:52,013 --> 00:37:53,453
Speaker 2: This is going to use I love the story because

833
00:37:53,453 --> 00:37:54,773
Speaker 2: I thought you're going to say it around the other way.

834
00:37:54,813 --> 00:37:56,213
Speaker 2: You're going to say, if I held on the business,

835
00:37:56,253 --> 00:37:57,773
Speaker 2: we know, and if I held onto the car, imagine

836
00:37:57,813 --> 00:37:59,253
Speaker 2: how much it would be worth now. But this is

837
00:37:59,293 --> 00:37:59,893
Speaker 2: a better story.

838
00:38:00,893 --> 00:38:03,373
Speaker 4: There's nothing compared with what that business.

839
00:38:02,973 --> 00:38:05,773
Speaker 2: Means, oh how good? Was it hard to let the

840
00:38:06,493 --> 00:38:06,973
Speaker 2: Valiant go?

841
00:38:08,053 --> 00:38:08,252
Speaker 20: Yeah?

842
00:38:08,413 --> 00:38:10,293
Speaker 21: Broke my heart. One of the few times I've cried.

843
00:38:10,933 --> 00:38:13,573
Speaker 3: Yeah once you major millions? Though, Wayne, did you try

844
00:38:13,573 --> 00:38:14,333
Speaker 3: and track down another?

845
00:38:15,453 --> 00:38:15,533
Speaker 8: No?

846
00:38:16,413 --> 00:38:18,212
Speaker 21: I now driving this and Mardo.

847
00:38:20,253 --> 00:38:22,093
Speaker 2: That's life for you. But you know, do you agree

848
00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:24,453
Speaker 2: with me that the Valiant VF Pacer was the most

849
00:38:24,493 --> 00:38:26,772
Speaker 2: beautiful shaped car?

850
00:38:27,253 --> 00:38:29,333
Speaker 13: Just really it really was.

851
00:38:29,413 --> 00:38:32,533
Speaker 21: There was a fantastic machine, tons of power, tons of size,

852
00:38:33,093 --> 00:38:34,293
Speaker 21: and it was very impressive.

853
00:38:34,573 --> 00:38:37,133
Speaker 2: It's frustrating now every car basically looks the same, from

854
00:38:37,173 --> 00:38:42,732
Speaker 2: a BMW right through to you know, a Toyota. Yeah,

855
00:38:42,773 --> 00:38:44,613
Speaker 2: you know, they basically look the same. But back then

856
00:38:44,733 --> 00:38:46,933
Speaker 2: you'd have a car like that, the Valiant vs would

857
00:38:46,933 --> 00:38:49,773
Speaker 2: come out and it's just so uniquely of its time.

858
00:38:50,293 --> 00:38:53,533
Speaker 2: What it is. It's cars on the road used to

859
00:38:53,573 --> 00:38:56,053
Speaker 2: be so different. Now they're all basically the same.

860
00:38:56,133 --> 00:38:59,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a beautiful looking car.

861
00:38:59,453 --> 00:39:01,053
Speaker 4: I just tell you you're a good man.

862
00:39:01,093 --> 00:39:03,533
Speaker 2: I appreciate for doing that and and look good on you.

863
00:39:03,653 --> 00:39:05,533
Speaker 2: I'm so proud that it all went well for you. You

864
00:39:05,493 --> 00:39:07,173
Speaker 2: sound like a great New Zealander. Thanks, Wayne.

865
00:39:07,933 --> 00:39:09,733
Speaker 3: Right there is where we'll leave it, I think. But

866
00:39:09,893 --> 00:39:12,653
Speaker 3: great discussion, and I think Matt, most people are pretty

867
00:39:12,653 --> 00:39:15,933
Speaker 3: behind this idea of clamping those who own court fines.

868
00:39:16,613 --> 00:39:18,893
Speaker 3: Not too many people saying that it's going to go

869
00:39:18,933 --> 00:39:21,613
Speaker 3: all wrong. So that's I suppose good news for Minister

870
00:39:21,973 --> 00:39:23,933
Speaker 3: Paul Goldsmith and also the bailiffs.

871
00:39:24,013 --> 00:39:27,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, although this Texas is careful. Facial recognition will get

872
00:39:27,413 --> 00:39:29,853
Speaker 2: you arrested for not paying tax before you know it.

873
00:39:30,133 --> 00:39:32,373
Speaker 2: And that's what I said at the start, that us

874
00:39:32,413 --> 00:39:33,773
Speaker 2: go exactly right.

875
00:39:33,813 --> 00:39:36,453
Speaker 3: Coming up after two o'clock, a young Australian is going

876
00:39:36,453 --> 00:39:39,253
Speaker 3: home after a year in Wellington. He's let loose online,

877
00:39:39,933 --> 00:39:42,333
Speaker 3: calling it an awareness high rate about the capital. He

878
00:39:42,413 --> 00:39:46,813
Speaker 3: calls it cold, dark, gloomy and depressing, ungrateful little turn Yeah,

879
00:39:46,853 --> 00:39:49,213
Speaker 3: oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

880
00:39:49,253 --> 00:39:51,613
Speaker 3: to call if you've in Wellington, come and defend it.

881
00:39:51,693 --> 00:39:52,732
Speaker 2: News is coming up.

882
00:39:54,733 --> 00:39:58,573
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams

883
00:39:58,613 --> 00:40:00,653
Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talk ZIVY.

884
00:40:02,813 --> 00:40:05,772
Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. You welcome back into the show. Great

885
00:40:05,813 --> 00:40:08,692
Speaker 3: to have your company. As always, this this is going

886
00:40:08,773 --> 00:40:11,493
Speaker 3: to be a very very good discussion. I'm sure he's

887
00:40:11,493 --> 00:40:13,453
Speaker 3: a discussion for a lot of people as well a

888
00:40:13,493 --> 00:40:16,333
Speaker 3: young Australian he is going home after a year in

889
00:40:16,373 --> 00:40:19,893
Speaker 3: Wellington and he's let absolutely loose online with what he

890
00:40:19,973 --> 00:40:23,493
Speaker 3: called an awareness tirade about life in the capital. His

891
00:40:23,573 --> 00:40:27,013
Speaker 3: name is Cashi, He's from Queensland and he's decided he's

892
00:40:27,013 --> 00:40:31,013
Speaker 3: had enough of Wellington because I quote, cold, dark, gloomy

893
00:40:31,053 --> 00:40:33,813
Speaker 3: and depressing is what he called the city of Wellington.

894
00:40:34,373 --> 00:40:34,693
Speaker 7: Yeah.

895
00:40:34,733 --> 00:40:36,853
Speaker 2: Do we want to listen to his rant? It's a

896
00:40:36,853 --> 00:40:39,692
Speaker 2: long rant, but I think it will have you cut

897
00:40:39,693 --> 00:40:42,173
Speaker 2: it down for me, like anyone cut it down for me.

898
00:40:42,253 --> 00:40:43,692
Speaker 3: No one's cut it down for you. But I think

899
00:40:43,733 --> 00:40:45,293
Speaker 3: if we listen to his whole rant, it's going to

900
00:40:45,413 --> 00:40:46,493
Speaker 3: upset a few people.

901
00:40:46,533 --> 00:40:49,373
Speaker 2: Right, And there's nothing wrong with upsetting a few people.

902
00:40:49,373 --> 00:40:52,453
Speaker 2: People need to hear what this young Australian thinks of Wellington.

903
00:40:52,573 --> 00:40:55,172
Speaker 2: Let's play the rant. Okay, you want to play it now?

904
00:40:55,293 --> 00:40:57,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's plant now. So this is Cashy and this

905
00:40:57,733 --> 00:41:00,293
Speaker 3: is his rant that is going viral, not just in

906
00:41:00,333 --> 00:41:02,093
Speaker 3: New Zealand but around the world and in Australia.

907
00:41:02,493 --> 00:41:05,453
Speaker 22: I will be moving from New Zealand in about three weeks.

908
00:41:05,453 --> 00:41:08,772
Speaker 22: I can't do it anymore. I can't I can't stay

909
00:41:08,773 --> 00:41:09,333
Speaker 22: here any longer.

910
00:41:09,373 --> 00:41:10,253
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.

911
00:41:10,413 --> 00:41:12,453
Speaker 22: I moved here just over a year ago to move

912
00:41:12,493 --> 00:41:14,773
Speaker 22: in with my girlfriend who was born here. She's from here,

913
00:41:15,413 --> 00:41:18,373
Speaker 22: and we've decided recently that we genuinely cannot take it

914
00:41:18,413 --> 00:41:21,772
Speaker 22: anymore and we're moving back to Australia, to Melbourne. I've

915
00:41:21,773 --> 00:41:25,493
Speaker 22: met some very lovely people when I've been here, some

916
00:41:25,573 --> 00:41:28,453
Speaker 22: truly awesome people. I've seen some really great things, some

917
00:41:28,573 --> 00:41:31,893
Speaker 22: very beautiful sights. I've ate great food, I've been some

918
00:41:31,973 --> 00:41:35,893
Speaker 22: beautiful places. I've done some traveling. I have genuinely enjoyed

919
00:41:36,773 --> 00:41:38,973
Speaker 22: a large part of my time living here, but that

920
00:41:39,013 --> 00:41:40,933
Speaker 22: does not make up for the fact that since I

921
00:41:41,013 --> 00:41:44,893
Speaker 22: have moved here, my mental health has taken a significant hit.

922
00:41:45,573 --> 00:41:49,172
Speaker 22: My drive for my career has taken a significant hit,

923
00:41:49,653 --> 00:41:52,533
Speaker 22: my drive with my dieting has taken a significant hit,

924
00:41:52,573 --> 00:41:55,293
Speaker 22: and my drive with my training has taken a significant hit.

925
00:41:55,733 --> 00:42:00,533
Speaker 22: I'm sick frequently, despite all of my RDI, vitamins and

926
00:42:00,573 --> 00:42:04,453
Speaker 22: minerals all being up to like perfect, awesome, in good shape.

927
00:42:04,613 --> 00:42:08,253
Speaker 22: I'm fit, I'm healthy, I'm active even when i'm off die.

928
00:42:08,493 --> 00:42:10,893
Speaker 22: I'm eating well, I'm hitting all of my macros, I'm

929
00:42:10,933 --> 00:42:14,813
Speaker 22: not overeating, and I still managed to find myself constantly

930
00:42:14,893 --> 00:42:18,613
Speaker 22: sick here. It is cold, it is dark, it is

931
00:42:18,893 --> 00:42:22,652
Speaker 22: a gloomy, it is depressing. It is raining almost all

932
00:42:22,693 --> 00:42:24,453
Speaker 22: the time. You get a couple of good days here

933
00:42:24,493 --> 00:42:27,053
Speaker 22: and there in summer is nice, And I think that

934
00:42:27,133 --> 00:42:29,693
Speaker 22: reflects really hard on a lot of the people that

935
00:42:29,773 --> 00:42:33,773
Speaker 22: live here. I have never met in my life my

936
00:42:33,893 --> 00:42:41,813
Speaker 22: short time here, people more unmotivated and depressed and bummy

937
00:42:42,333 --> 00:42:45,533
Speaker 22: and doing it rough than I have since I've moved here.

938
00:42:45,653 --> 00:42:47,773
Speaker 22: And I think it almost creates this net. This country

939
00:42:47,773 --> 00:42:50,373
Speaker 22: definitely does have some tall poppy issues, but I think

940
00:42:50,413 --> 00:42:54,093
Speaker 22: those tall poppy issues come from a point of jealousy.

941
00:42:54,093 --> 00:42:56,733
Speaker 3: Wow what a what an absolute rant?

942
00:42:57,173 --> 00:43:02,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, so shot for it? How do you feel about that?

943
00:43:03,093 --> 00:43:07,813
Speaker 3: So cold, dark, gloomy and depressing Wellington? I mean there's

944
00:43:07,893 --> 00:43:11,053
Speaker 3: a lot of tis coming through already, Go home, you

945
00:43:11,253 --> 00:43:14,853
Speaker 3: beep Australia as where you belong, you absolute winda. I

946
00:43:14,853 --> 00:43:16,373
Speaker 3: mean there was a lot of wining going on in

947
00:43:16,373 --> 00:43:19,173
Speaker 3: their particular rants. But what do you say to that,

948
00:43:19,293 --> 00:43:21,813
Speaker 3: young man? Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty, Well, look.

949
00:43:21,653 --> 00:43:25,373
Speaker 2: See Wellington, right, love Wellington, absolutely love Wellington, but you

950
00:43:25,573 --> 00:43:29,013
Speaker 2: have to admit that it is a challenging climate. In Wellington.

951
00:43:29,053 --> 00:43:32,973
Speaker 2: It must be one of the most windy cities in

952
00:43:33,013 --> 00:43:35,093
Speaker 2: the entire world. Absolutely. In fact, I've seen a stat

953
00:43:35,093 --> 00:43:36,732
Speaker 2: where it is the windy city in the entire world.

954
00:43:36,733 --> 00:43:39,732
Speaker 2: Someone might say it's wrong there, maybe there's one that's

955
00:43:39,733 --> 00:43:42,053
Speaker 2: slightly windier, but it is so windy. It's windier than

956
00:43:42,093 --> 00:43:45,733
Speaker 2: the Windy City Chicago. Although fun fact, Chicago is not

957
00:43:45,733 --> 00:43:47,693
Speaker 2: called the windy city because it's windy. It's called the

958
00:43:47,733 --> 00:43:51,853
Speaker 2: windy city because the politicians there made so much noise

959
00:43:51,933 --> 00:43:53,613
Speaker 2: that they decided to call it the windy city. That's

960
00:43:53,613 --> 00:43:59,013
Speaker 2: a great I'm off topic here. Yeah, it's a challenging environment.

961
00:43:59,613 --> 00:44:02,253
Speaker 2: But do you still love Wellington? Do you thrive there?

962
00:44:02,293 --> 00:44:04,773
Speaker 2: There's been incredible things that have come out of Wellington.

963
00:44:04,853 --> 00:44:08,413
Speaker 2: Sir Peter Jackson, one of our most successful human being

964
00:44:08,493 --> 00:44:11,293
Speaker 2: has come out of Wellington. An incredible amount of fantastic

965
00:44:11,373 --> 00:44:13,973
Speaker 2: music has come out of there. Fat Freddy's Drop Yep

966
00:44:14,293 --> 00:44:18,652
Speaker 2: Shee Hard, the Flight of the Concords. There's this incredible

967
00:44:18,693 --> 00:44:21,573
Speaker 2: stuff that has come out of Wellington. And look, there

968
00:44:21,573 --> 00:44:23,813
Speaker 2: are no walls around Wellington, but there's still a lot

969
00:44:23,813 --> 00:44:27,373
Speaker 2: of people that live there. You know that people people

970
00:44:27,413 --> 00:44:29,413
Speaker 2: stay and they love it. And the people that love

971
00:44:29,493 --> 00:44:33,413
Speaker 2: Wellington will absolutely swear by Wellington. And they'll tell you

972
00:44:33,453 --> 00:44:35,333
Speaker 2: that Auckland is terrible, and they'll tell you that Christ

973
00:44:35,573 --> 00:44:37,333
Speaker 2: just terrible, and they'll tell you that the Bay of

974
00:44:37,373 --> 00:44:40,732
Speaker 2: Plenty is horrible. At Wellington is where you've got to live.

975
00:44:41,293 --> 00:44:43,733
Speaker 2: But it's not the only challenging environment in New Zealand.

976
00:44:44,053 --> 00:44:47,093
Speaker 2: I mean my beloved hometown of Dunedin. I was landing

977
00:44:47,093 --> 00:44:49,453
Speaker 2: in there the other day and the pilot said it's

978
00:44:49,493 --> 00:44:52,893
Speaker 2: a frosty negative four out there. Yeah, you do ice

979
00:44:52,933 --> 00:44:55,333
Speaker 2: well and Dunedin, that's sure. Yeah, a lot of people

980
00:44:55,413 --> 00:44:57,453
Speaker 2: hassle me for my love of Dunedin, but whether it's

981
00:44:57,493 --> 00:45:01,093
Speaker 2: bad weather. But he's also saying things about New Zealand

982
00:45:01,173 --> 00:45:04,773
Speaker 2: is in general, and that he believes is a negative

983
00:45:04,813 --> 00:45:08,693
Speaker 2: attitude dude here, and that people are unmotivated here compared

984
00:45:08,693 --> 00:45:12,093
Speaker 2: to where he's from from in Kingsland. Yeah, Kingsland. I'm

985
00:45:12,133 --> 00:45:15,053
Speaker 2: from Kingsland. He's from Queensland. Yeah. I live in Kingsland.

986
00:45:15,093 --> 00:45:15,933
Speaker 2: He lives in Queensland.

987
00:45:16,053 --> 00:45:16,212
Speaker 13: Yeah.

988
00:45:16,613 --> 00:45:19,213
Speaker 3: I mean, now it's some big shots that he's fired

989
00:45:19,253 --> 00:45:21,453
Speaker 3: across the bow to us here in New Zealand. And

990
00:45:21,493 --> 00:45:23,453
Speaker 3: you and Wellington if you lived there. But if you've

991
00:45:23,493 --> 00:45:28,293
Speaker 3: ever lived in Wellington, and I think on the unmotivated aspect,

992
00:45:28,533 --> 00:45:32,533
Speaker 3: I can have some sympathy for how he might perceive

993
00:45:32,773 --> 00:45:36,173
Speaker 3: some Kiwi's been unmotivated or in a bit of a

994
00:45:36,293 --> 00:45:39,333
Speaker 3: stupor at the moment. Because we've talked about this on

995
00:45:39,413 --> 00:45:42,173
Speaker 3: the show, that wingy element, and that was a massive

996
00:45:42,213 --> 00:45:44,093
Speaker 3: wind from that that Aussie I've got to say, Oh.

997
00:45:44,093 --> 00:45:46,893
Speaker 2: You've got to say a malaise has fallen over this country. Yeah,

998
00:45:46,893 --> 00:45:49,373
Speaker 2: I think everyone can feel it. And so this is

999
00:45:49,453 --> 00:45:51,373
Speaker 2: just a young fellow that's come over from Queensland. He

1000
00:45:51,373 --> 00:45:55,653
Speaker 2: hasn't seen Wellington when it was absolutely going off in

1001
00:45:55,733 --> 00:45:59,773
Speaker 2: the huge hub of creativity. The nightlife there was fantastic,

1002
00:45:59,813 --> 00:46:02,933
Speaker 2: and it felt like Wellington was just this quadron of culture.

1003
00:46:03,253 --> 00:46:03,333
Speaker 9: Right.

1004
00:46:03,853 --> 00:46:06,613
Speaker 2: That seems to have slid a little bit in Wellington,

1005
00:46:06,653 --> 00:46:08,293
Speaker 2: but it also seems to have slid a little bit

1006
00:46:08,373 --> 00:46:14,053
Speaker 2: across our whole country. Because I don't know what do

1007
00:46:14,133 --> 00:46:18,213
Speaker 2: you reckon, who's more ambitious, who's more wingy? Is it

1008
00:46:18,293 --> 00:46:19,693
Speaker 2: Australians or New Zealanders?

1009
00:46:19,893 --> 00:46:19,973
Speaker 4: Oh?

1010
00:46:20,053 --> 00:46:22,172
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that i'mber to call

1011
00:46:22,253 --> 00:46:23,733
Speaker 3: up to hear your thoughts on this, and how do

1012
00:46:23,813 --> 00:46:26,613
Speaker 3: you dare with a challenging climate like Wellington. If you're

1013
00:46:26,613 --> 00:46:29,253
Speaker 3: a massive fan of Wellington, right will die for Wellington?

1014
00:46:29,333 --> 00:46:30,773
Speaker 3: Really get to hear from you on oh eight hundred

1015
00:46:30,813 --> 00:46:31,493
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty.

1016
00:46:31,653 --> 00:46:33,773
Speaker 2: And do you get us? Do you get sick a

1017
00:46:33,813 --> 00:46:36,493
Speaker 2: lot in the Capitol? This guy reckons he's sick the

1018
00:46:36,533 --> 00:46:38,413
Speaker 2: whole time there and everyone else's as well. It's a

1019
00:46:38,453 --> 00:46:40,933
Speaker 2: more sun it. It's thirteen past two, oh eight hundred

1020
00:46:41,053 --> 00:46:42,053
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty.

1021
00:46:43,733 --> 00:46:48,573
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons.

1022
00:46:48,133 --> 00:46:51,133
Speaker 7: Call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk said, be.

1023
00:46:53,373 --> 00:46:56,453
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon, sixteen past two. So this young Australian

1024
00:46:56,613 --> 00:46:59,413
Speaker 3: has upset a lot of people and most of the

1025
00:46:59,533 --> 00:47:03,133
Speaker 3: nation actually with his tirade against Wellington. He said in

1026
00:47:03,173 --> 00:47:06,373
Speaker 3: a viral TikTok video that it was called dark, gloomy, depressing.

1027
00:47:06,853 --> 00:47:09,733
Speaker 2: Yep, everyone sick all the time, there's tool poppy syndrome. No,

1028
00:47:09,973 --> 00:47:13,253
Speaker 2: it is motivated and he can't wait to get home.

1029
00:47:13,293 --> 00:47:15,373
Speaker 2: Well mussay is, don't let the door hit your ass

1030
00:47:15,493 --> 00:47:18,293
Speaker 2: on the way out, you dick head. You're a bloody convict.

1031
00:47:19,173 --> 00:47:21,692
Speaker 2: Get in their muzz. All right, Jack, welcome to the show.

1032
00:47:22,613 --> 00:47:22,933
Speaker 4: After that?

1033
00:47:23,093 --> 00:47:24,732
Speaker 7: How are you doing very good?

1034
00:47:25,013 --> 00:47:26,613
Speaker 2: So you're not a fan of Wellington.

1035
00:47:27,653 --> 00:47:29,692
Speaker 11: I've lived here for twenty four years of my life,

1036
00:47:29,773 --> 00:47:32,013
Speaker 11: from childhood up until adult in Wellington.

1037
00:47:32,853 --> 00:47:33,773
Speaker 4: In Wellington, yep.

1038
00:47:34,973 --> 00:47:38,933
Speaker 11: I loved it at first about eighteen nineteen. Loved that

1039
00:47:39,093 --> 00:47:42,013
Speaker 11: it was beautiful and over night life was great. Everything

1040
00:47:42,173 --> 00:47:46,613
Speaker 11: was just blooming at the time. And since then I

1041
00:47:47,093 --> 00:47:49,253
Speaker 11: last when I said nineteen a week so it's Queensland

1042
00:47:49,293 --> 00:47:52,652
Speaker 11: out of all places. Two years and that's a hell

1043
00:47:52,733 --> 00:47:58,093
Speaker 11: hole in itself. Horrible hot humors, weather, you know, thirty

1044
00:47:58,133 --> 00:48:02,973
Speaker 11: five degrees, eighty pretcubity, just horrible. Wasn't a dance. I

1045
00:48:03,053 --> 00:48:05,293
Speaker 11: came back to Wellington. I hate to say it, but

1046
00:48:05,373 --> 00:48:06,773
Speaker 11: Wellington is better than Queensland.

1047
00:48:07,333 --> 00:48:08,652
Speaker 23: And but.

1048
00:48:10,173 --> 00:48:13,333
Speaker 11: Honestly I can see what he means by people don't

1049
00:48:13,333 --> 00:48:16,413
Speaker 11: have the motivation of Wellington. But it is a depressing place.

1050
00:48:16,533 --> 00:48:20,053
Speaker 11: There's no enough to god housing or housings, and the

1051
00:48:20,213 --> 00:48:25,733
Speaker 11: parade a straight lines of homeless, which also speaks a

1052
00:48:25,813 --> 00:48:30,973
Speaker 11: homeless problem as Wellington. It's it's not queterable to walk

1053
00:48:31,013 --> 00:48:33,732
Speaker 11: around at night anymore or go places anymore in the city.

1054
00:48:33,933 --> 00:48:36,173
Speaker 11: Then hand or so many of your floutless for fights.

1055
00:48:36,493 --> 00:48:40,453
Speaker 11: Just that's even a nightlight Friday saiday night. It's not

1056
00:48:40,573 --> 00:48:42,853
Speaker 11: what it used to see. Towns fairly busly.

1057
00:48:44,373 --> 00:48:50,692
Speaker 2: Yeah and but okay, so what keeps you there? You've

1058
00:48:50,693 --> 00:48:53,213
Speaker 2: said that, you've said it's better than Queensland, But can

1059
00:48:53,253 --> 00:48:55,373
Speaker 2: you can you give us something good about Wellington because

1060
00:48:55,373 --> 00:48:57,933
Speaker 2: you've decided to stay there, don't you look?

1061
00:48:58,813 --> 00:49:00,773
Speaker 11: I'm in the Hat Valley. It's a beautiful place in

1062
00:49:00,773 --> 00:49:04,093
Speaker 11: the Hat Valley itself. You know, there's plenty of beaches

1063
00:49:04,253 --> 00:49:06,733
Speaker 11: you have really access there, plenty of places to go

1064
00:49:07,133 --> 00:49:09,453
Speaker 11: in the area. Also be only from your kids for

1065
00:49:09,573 --> 00:49:12,413
Speaker 11: here as family. If I didn't have my family here,

1066
00:49:12,413 --> 00:49:18,293
Speaker 11: I'd probably be somewhere down south. But yeah, like Wellington

1067
00:49:18,333 --> 00:49:20,573
Speaker 11: does have its perks, but it's not my favorite place.

1068
00:49:21,693 --> 00:49:24,773
Speaker 2: So what leads to the great people that have achieved

1069
00:49:24,813 --> 00:49:28,013
Speaker 2: so much? Some of our most talented people, you know,

1070
00:49:28,533 --> 00:49:31,093
Speaker 2: call Wellington home or or have cut their teeth in

1071
00:49:31,213 --> 00:49:33,773
Speaker 2: whatever career they're going to follow to the to the

1072
00:49:33,853 --> 00:49:37,173
Speaker 2: heights in Wellington. I'm thinking of Peter Jackson, tyger YTD,

1073
00:49:37,773 --> 00:49:40,533
Speaker 2: Fran Walsh. Of course, Fran Walsh is married to Peter Jackson.

1074
00:49:40,613 --> 00:49:44,773
Speaker 2: Brett McKenzie, you know, Sir Richard Taylor. There's there's a

1075
00:49:44,853 --> 00:49:48,333
Speaker 2: lot of people that have absolutely excelled out of Wellington.

1076
00:49:48,373 --> 00:49:50,373
Speaker 2: Fat Frudi's drop fantastic band.

1077
00:49:52,293 --> 00:49:55,053
Speaker 11: My question to that is they they's part of the

1078
00:49:55,133 --> 00:49:59,893
Speaker 11: older generation. They're not. They weren't brought up later generation.

1079
00:50:02,373 --> 00:50:04,133
Speaker 11: It was probably when Welling Coup was a great place,

1080
00:50:04,373 --> 00:50:06,533
Speaker 11: when it was beautiful, when there was no bus and

1081
00:50:06,613 --> 00:50:07,813
Speaker 11: cycle lanes everywhere.

1082
00:50:08,493 --> 00:50:13,133
Speaker 18: You know, they probably just had the right place to

1083
00:50:13,173 --> 00:50:17,133
Speaker 18: grow up at the right time. And now it's just yeahs.

1084
00:50:18,093 --> 00:50:21,093
Speaker 2: Do you think intense Do you think intense places sometimes

1085
00:50:21,933 --> 00:50:24,893
Speaker 2: create brilliant people? And if you've got it all nice

1086
00:50:24,933 --> 00:50:26,653
Speaker 2: and you're at the beach and you're a home and

1087
00:50:26,653 --> 00:50:29,573
Speaker 2: a home and away type life, that you may not

1088
00:50:29,933 --> 00:50:32,373
Speaker 2: come up with these people that do do incredible things.

1089
00:50:32,413 --> 00:50:35,252
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about you know, Ozzy Osborne this week passed away,

1090
00:50:35,293 --> 00:50:37,933
Speaker 2: but he grew up and Birmingham, right, and so that

1091
00:50:38,093 --> 00:50:41,133
Speaker 2: is an intense industrial town named Tony Iomi. The guitarist

1092
00:50:41,173 --> 00:50:43,413
Speaker 2: from Black Sabbath lost a finger in a factory, so

1093
00:50:43,493 --> 00:50:45,212
Speaker 2: he's only you know that all those riffs are played

1094
00:50:45,213 --> 00:50:48,613
Speaker 2: with two fingers. You know, there's there's something about the

1095
00:50:48,693 --> 00:50:51,693
Speaker 2: intensity and the and the almost gothic nature of Wellington

1096
00:50:51,773 --> 00:50:55,213
Speaker 2: and the fact that you're running between places, every umbrellas

1097
00:50:55,493 --> 00:51:00,053
Speaker 2: inside out. That that that, you know, inspires people to

1098
00:51:00,213 --> 00:51:03,253
Speaker 2: do great things, or at least different things.

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00:51:05,893 --> 00:51:09,133
Speaker 11: A sense that old say it does. But a lot

1100
00:51:09,213 --> 00:51:11,133
Speaker 11: of people don't think to make most of them. That's

1101
00:51:11,133 --> 00:51:14,453
Speaker 11: the other thing. And I'm one of those. I'm shaft

1102
00:51:14,493 --> 00:51:18,212
Speaker 11: with it. You know, you look at it for how

1103
00:51:18,253 --> 00:51:20,652
Speaker 11: it is, it as a bad site. You don't want

1104
00:51:20,653 --> 00:51:21,973
Speaker 11: to make the most of it. You don't want to

1105
00:51:22,293 --> 00:51:25,493
Speaker 11: st progress because it's not a nice place in your opinion.

1106
00:51:27,293 --> 00:51:29,973
Speaker 11: But you know, if you have the drive, if you

1107
00:51:30,093 --> 00:51:33,173
Speaker 11: have the family and all the support and friends and

1108
00:51:33,333 --> 00:51:37,293
Speaker 11: everything behind you, easy easy.

1109
00:51:38,053 --> 00:51:39,933
Speaker 2: Well okay, so what do you are you are you

1110
00:51:40,093 --> 00:51:42,293
Speaker 2: feeling all ged up and ready to do something amazing

1111
00:51:42,333 --> 00:51:44,373
Speaker 2: with your life in Wellington?

1112
00:51:44,893 --> 00:51:50,493
Speaker 24: Jack, I'm getting there, you know.

1113
00:51:51,093 --> 00:51:54,853
Speaker 11: You know sometimes greatness pattens when you least expect it.

1114
00:51:56,573 --> 00:51:58,973
Speaker 2: There's something cool that it's the capital of the country,

1115
00:51:59,133 --> 00:52:02,133
Speaker 2: and you know that that the you know the ramifications

1116
00:52:02,173 --> 00:52:05,172
Speaker 2: of power and and you know the ruminations. I'm sorrying

1117
00:52:05,173 --> 00:52:06,493
Speaker 2: that there's a word I'm missing. Someone will help me

1118
00:52:06,493 --> 00:52:08,493
Speaker 2: on nineteen nine two, that there's something of power that

1119
00:52:08,533 --> 00:52:12,373
Speaker 2: people say that power. Yeah, you know that there's something

1120
00:52:12,413 --> 00:52:14,533
Speaker 2: about that that I find because I was thinking the

1121
00:52:14,573 --> 00:52:17,933
Speaker 2: other dy. I've never been into Parliament. I've never stood there.

1122
00:52:17,973 --> 00:52:19,733
Speaker 2: What do they call it the bridge? I'd love to

1123
00:52:19,773 --> 00:52:21,213
Speaker 2: go in there and see that. And you know, have

1124
00:52:21,293 --> 00:52:24,573
Speaker 2: the is the Polish pion politicians out and about drinking

1125
00:52:24,653 --> 00:52:27,093
Speaker 2: in the town and making big decisions that will affect

1126
00:52:27,133 --> 00:52:28,212
Speaker 2: down the whole nation?

1127
00:52:28,613 --> 00:52:28,853
Speaker 4: Does that?

1128
00:52:28,973 --> 00:52:30,613
Speaker 2: Does that excite you at all?

1129
00:52:30,973 --> 00:52:31,172
Speaker 7: Jack?

1130
00:52:32,933 --> 00:52:35,413
Speaker 2: It does it? Does you know?

1131
00:52:35,613 --> 00:52:38,373
Speaker 11: I've seen plenty of politicians. I used to work security

1132
00:52:38,373 --> 00:52:41,692
Speaker 11: at a buzz and I've seen plenty of politicians out

1133
00:52:41,773 --> 00:52:44,653
Speaker 11: drinking and out socializing when they're drinking, and not the

1134
00:52:44,813 --> 00:52:49,373
Speaker 11: nicest of people I've met. But you know, when they're

1135
00:52:49,413 --> 00:52:52,773
Speaker 11: out socializing, walking around with like the what's they call

1136
00:52:52,853 --> 00:52:55,133
Speaker 11: them city safe? I think it is from the council

1137
00:52:55,213 --> 00:52:58,133
Speaker 11: who walk around and just sort of keep the streets

1138
00:52:58,173 --> 00:53:01,333
Speaker 11: safe per se. When they're walking, they're friendliest of people.

1139
00:53:01,413 --> 00:53:04,573
Speaker 11: They're great, they're seeing what people's opinions are around the place.

1140
00:53:05,613 --> 00:53:05,773
Speaker 4: You know.

1141
00:53:05,973 --> 00:53:07,933
Speaker 19: But yeah, I've.

1142
00:53:07,853 --> 00:53:10,453
Speaker 11: Unfortunately always seen the dark side of Wellington. I guess

1143
00:53:10,453 --> 00:53:15,133
Speaker 11: you could say to look the other way.

1144
00:53:15,373 --> 00:53:17,693
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, you sound to me like someone

1145
00:53:17,973 --> 00:53:20,813
Speaker 2: with a bit of a bit of gumption, you know,

1146
00:53:20,893 --> 00:53:24,213
Speaker 2: a bit of You're a good talker. You know you

1147
00:53:24,333 --> 00:53:28,213
Speaker 2: can formulate your your words. Well, you seem reasonably positive.

1148
00:53:28,253 --> 00:53:30,413
Speaker 2: I reckon, I reckon. You're going to kick some ass.

1149
00:53:31,173 --> 00:53:32,813
Speaker 2: That's that's that's my prediction for you.

1150
00:53:34,213 --> 00:53:36,933
Speaker 11: I appreciate his words and I will try and work

1151
00:53:37,013 --> 00:53:37,173
Speaker 11: on it.

1152
00:53:38,493 --> 00:53:41,213
Speaker 2: Fight Jack, get back to us with the ass that

1153
00:53:41,253 --> 00:53:41,732
Speaker 2: you've kicked.

1154
00:53:41,813 --> 00:53:43,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. That's a man who hasn't given up on

1155
00:53:43,653 --> 00:53:45,933
Speaker 3: Wellington quite yet. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1156
00:53:46,133 --> 00:53:47,613
Speaker 3: is the number of care. How do you live in

1157
00:53:47,653 --> 00:53:50,213
Speaker 3: a challenging environment like Wellington? And if you want to

1158
00:53:50,253 --> 00:53:52,213
Speaker 3: boost Wellington up, please we need to hear from you.

1159
00:53:52,453 --> 00:53:54,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Wellington used to have a swagger about it.

1160
00:53:54,973 --> 00:53:59,533
Speaker 2: It was all absolutely positively. Wellington the center of culture

1161
00:53:59,733 --> 00:54:03,413
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. All the best music was coming out

1162
00:54:03,453 --> 00:54:06,293
Speaker 2: of there. They was having ads telling you to go

1163
00:54:06,373 --> 00:54:08,013
Speaker 2: down there and have an affair with your wife.

1164
00:54:08,373 --> 00:54:10,093
Speaker 3: There was a good time. Yeah, call this little capital

1165
00:54:10,133 --> 00:54:10,493
Speaker 3: in the world.

1166
00:54:11,133 --> 00:54:12,893
Speaker 2: It was the best nightlife in the country.

1167
00:54:13,053 --> 00:54:13,212
Speaker 9: Yeah.

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00:54:13,333 --> 00:54:14,813
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1169
00:54:14,933 --> 00:54:16,253
Speaker 3: number to call twenty three past two.

1170
00:54:17,373 --> 00:54:20,133
Speaker 2: There are heaps of great opportunities out there for business leaders,

1171
00:54:20,173 --> 00:54:22,853
Speaker 2: but really only one you should be paying attention to,

1172
00:54:23,053 --> 00:54:26,172
Speaker 2: and that's a Spreading Industrial state located in the heart

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00:54:26,253 --> 00:54:27,373
Speaker 2: of Auckland's northwest.

1174
00:54:27,493 --> 00:54:31,973
Speaker 3: Spading Industrial Estate is a thoroughly designed modern industrial development

1175
00:54:32,053 --> 00:54:34,493
Speaker 3: precinct with attractive streetscapes.

1176
00:54:34,693 --> 00:54:37,973
Speaker 2: It's strategically located with unmatched connectivity to the inner city

1177
00:54:38,093 --> 00:54:40,333
Speaker 2: and well established infrastructure already in place.

1178
00:54:40,493 --> 00:54:44,293
Speaker 3: Auckland's north and west is experiencing an extreme shortage of

1179
00:54:44,493 --> 00:54:48,252
Speaker 3: industrial land, so Spreading Industrial Estate rarely fills that gap.

1180
00:54:48,333 --> 00:54:50,693
Speaker 2: The area is one of Auckland's key growth nodes, with

1181
00:54:50,853 --> 00:54:54,733
Speaker 2: substantial residential and infrastructure development supporting this explosion of development,

1182
00:54:54,813 --> 00:54:57,893
Speaker 2: so it makes sense that such a well considered industrial

1183
00:54:57,933 --> 00:55:00,293
Speaker 2: state would emerge in the heart of this precinct to

1184
00:55:00,333 --> 00:55:02,613
Speaker 2: deliver major employment opportunities.

1185
00:55:02,733 --> 00:55:06,373
Speaker 3: Spreading has development lots available right now from three thousand

1186
00:55:06,493 --> 00:55:08,173
Speaker 3: to fifty thousand square meters.

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Speaker 2: Be a part of the Northwest future in this world

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Speaker 2: two thousand and eight.

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00:55:24,013 --> 00:55:27,692
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1192
00:55:27,773 --> 00:55:29,573
Speaker 1: ten eighty on news Talk ZB.

1193
00:55:29,693 --> 00:55:32,213
Speaker 3: Twenty six PAS two when we're talking about a tirade

1194
00:55:32,493 --> 00:55:35,172
Speaker 3: that's gone viral on TikTok by an Australian who lived

1195
00:55:35,213 --> 00:55:38,013
Speaker 3: in Wellington. Wellington, he's had enough, he's going back to Queensland.

1196
00:55:38,013 --> 00:55:41,573
Speaker 3: But he calls a cold dark depressing unmotivated people, tall poppy.

1197
00:55:41,573 --> 00:55:44,413
Speaker 2: Everyone's sick. Hey, guys, that young guys bang on the money.

1198
00:55:44,533 --> 00:55:47,493
Speaker 2: He was also so right read the tall poppy syndrome

1199
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Speaker 2: that this country has. And I have to say more

1200
00:55:50,253 --> 00:55:52,773
Speaker 2: so from Wellington. So Keewis will hate to hear the truth,

1201
00:55:53,093 --> 00:55:57,013
Speaker 2: but he is bang on. Love the show. Cheers Jake,

1202
00:55:57,173 --> 00:56:00,733
Speaker 2: I love you Jase. He's full of follow it and

1203
00:56:00,893 --> 00:56:03,732
Speaker 2: contradicts himself. Talks about his lack of motivation for diet

1204
00:56:03,733 --> 00:56:06,133
Speaker 2: and excise, goes on to say that he's fit and

1205
00:56:06,253 --> 00:56:09,973
Speaker 2: healthy but still gets sick. Wouldn't believe a word this

1206
00:56:10,253 --> 00:56:13,212
Speaker 2: bloody idiot says, Yeah, there's a very fair points okay

1207
00:56:13,373 --> 00:56:17,573
Speaker 2: to this both sides. Simon, you think Wellington is wicked.

1208
00:56:18,573 --> 00:56:20,853
Speaker 25: I think it's just the best capital city in the

1209
00:56:20,893 --> 00:56:24,493
Speaker 25: world and where I'm sitting at the moment, three sixty degrees,

1210
00:56:24,893 --> 00:56:29,453
Speaker 25: no cloud, stunningly beautiful, not a breath of wind, and

1211
00:56:29,573 --> 00:56:31,693
Speaker 25: it actually has been pretty much like that for the

1212
00:56:31,773 --> 00:56:35,172
Speaker 25: last five days. And you know, it's so clear here

1213
00:56:35,693 --> 00:56:39,493
Speaker 25: that from Karori you can see Mount Taranaki. That's the

1214
00:56:39,533 --> 00:56:41,533
Speaker 25: first thing. If it gets a little bit noisy here

1215
00:56:41,613 --> 00:56:44,692
Speaker 25: in a few minutes, that's because it'll be a flock

1216
00:56:44,733 --> 00:56:49,213
Speaker 25: of kaka flying across. This city with its natural environment,

1217
00:56:49,333 --> 00:56:52,653
Speaker 25: is unsurpassed. You know, yesterday I was out on the

1218
00:56:52,693 --> 00:56:55,693
Speaker 25: south coast and feels on the beach, you know, like

1219
00:56:56,493 --> 00:56:59,733
Speaker 25: where would you have that sort of wildlife and and

1220
00:57:00,693 --> 00:57:09,732
Speaker 25: the natural environment, let alone maybe for don Is. I'll

1221
00:57:09,733 --> 00:57:12,172
Speaker 25: get a plug in for everywhere around New Zealand because

1222
00:57:12,213 --> 00:57:15,533
Speaker 25: if you want a quality of life and a work

1223
00:57:15,613 --> 00:57:18,373
Speaker 25: life balance, this country can give it to you. And

1224
00:57:18,493 --> 00:57:21,453
Speaker 25: Wellington's just come up really well along with Auckland in

1225
00:57:21,693 --> 00:57:25,773
Speaker 25: international work life balance a survey. I think we were

1226
00:57:25,893 --> 00:57:28,613
Speaker 25: first or second actually, and that's in spite of the

1227
00:57:28,693 --> 00:57:31,333
Speaker 25: difficulties that we've had in the city over the last

1228
00:57:32,213 --> 00:57:34,453
Speaker 25: six years in particular to get.

1229
00:57:34,333 --> 00:57:34,773
Speaker 7: Further to that.

1230
00:57:34,933 --> 00:57:40,093
Speaker 2: Simon, So would you accept that two things. Firstly that

1231
00:57:40,573 --> 00:57:42,653
Speaker 2: great that it's beautiful day and it has been for

1232
00:57:42,693 --> 00:57:45,373
Speaker 2: a few days, but there is a challenging nature to

1233
00:57:45,693 --> 00:57:50,173
Speaker 2: Wellington's weather. And secondly that Wellington may have lost its

1234
00:57:50,253 --> 00:57:53,173
Speaker 2: mojo a little bit over over the last five or

1235
00:57:53,173 --> 00:57:53,653
Speaker 2: six years.

1236
00:57:54,533 --> 00:57:57,973
Speaker 25: Yeah, but we're definitely on the way up. Yes, And

1237
00:57:58,653 --> 00:58:01,013
Speaker 25: the only thing I think I agree with the young

1238
00:58:01,053 --> 00:58:03,813
Speaker 25: Australian guy was that perhaps we are a bit of

1239
00:58:03,853 --> 00:58:06,773
Speaker 25: a tall poppy environment from time to time. We've got

1240
00:58:06,813 --> 00:58:08,773
Speaker 25: to do better because we've got champions and the city

1241
00:58:09,093 --> 00:58:13,613
Speaker 25: as well. You know, the quartet you know of the

1242
00:58:13,693 --> 00:58:19,253
Speaker 25: film industry with Richard and Tania and Peter and fran

1243
00:58:19,613 --> 00:58:22,293
Speaker 25: and what works around them are only but a few,

1244
00:58:22,533 --> 00:58:25,413
Speaker 25: you know, Like we've got a great gaming industry here,

1245
00:58:25,573 --> 00:58:30,453
Speaker 25: We've got a really good startup. I but also we

1246
00:58:30,973 --> 00:58:34,013
Speaker 25: have this environment that is dynamic and it is sometimes

1247
00:58:34,093 --> 00:58:37,093
Speaker 25: the best entertainment package in the whole damn country. I

1248
00:58:37,253 --> 00:58:39,573
Speaker 25: tell you, you get out onto the South Coast in

1249
00:58:39,653 --> 00:58:43,493
Speaker 25: a storm and it's ever moving. And you know, my

1250
00:58:43,613 --> 00:58:47,333
Speaker 25: photographic buddies around the world they can't believe where I live.

1251
00:58:47,973 --> 00:58:51,373
Speaker 25: They think that it's just such a great place and

1252
00:58:51,693 --> 00:58:54,973
Speaker 25: they come here and we take them on our tour

1253
00:58:55,053 --> 00:58:58,453
Speaker 25: of Wellington of the heights and the coast, and they

1254
00:58:58,533 --> 00:59:00,813
Speaker 25: love it. They want to come back, you know. And

1255
00:59:00,933 --> 00:59:04,413
Speaker 25: I think that it's what anywhere in New Zealand anywhere, actually,

1256
00:59:04,733 --> 00:59:07,053
Speaker 25: it's what you make of it. In this city is

1257
00:59:07,333 --> 00:59:12,213
Speaker 25: god smackingly beautiful and it has. The guy actually did

1258
00:59:12,293 --> 00:59:14,733
Speaker 25: say that we have good people. We have great people here.

1259
00:59:15,613 --> 00:59:19,053
Speaker 25: Do you think of the natural environment and all the trapping,

1260
00:59:19,133 --> 00:59:21,253
Speaker 25: you know, the predator free stuff. You know, I can

1261
00:59:21,293 --> 00:59:24,413
Speaker 25: hear kiwi from my from where we are in Carori.

1262
00:59:24,613 --> 00:59:26,413
Speaker 25: You know, we've got the end of the year we'll

1263
00:59:26,453 --> 00:59:29,453
Speaker 25: have two hundred kiwi living within the city.

1264
00:59:29,773 --> 00:59:32,893
Speaker 2: I mean said, you're absolutely selling it. And I love

1265
00:59:32,973 --> 00:59:35,133
Speaker 2: your passion for the city. What about his claims that

1266
00:59:35,213 --> 00:59:36,293
Speaker 2: everyone's sick all the time?

1267
00:59:37,293 --> 00:59:39,893
Speaker 25: No, no, you've got to you've got to you've got

1268
00:59:39,973 --> 00:59:41,933
Speaker 25: to work on that, and you've got to you've gotta

1269
00:59:41,933 --> 00:59:46,733
Speaker 25: have a think about that as well. And actually the city.

1270
00:59:48,053 --> 00:59:50,653
Speaker 25: We've got the public service in Wellington, and I think

1271
00:59:51,413 --> 00:59:55,533
Speaker 25: in relation to sickness and illness and well being, the

1272
00:59:55,613 --> 00:59:59,373
Speaker 25: public service doesn't do too badly in looking after its people.

1273
00:59:59,613 --> 01:00:03,053
Speaker 25: And one of the things that the city Council has

1274
01:00:03,133 --> 01:00:06,493
Speaker 25: done over the years is spend a lot on social services,

1275
01:00:07,013 --> 01:00:11,333
Speaker 25: you know, like healthy homes and and the social housing

1276
01:00:11,453 --> 01:00:13,213
Speaker 25: is now you know, to spect.

1277
01:00:13,533 --> 01:00:15,893
Speaker 2: What about the what about the violence that everyone talks

1278
01:00:15,933 --> 01:00:17,533
Speaker 2: about on the streets. We've had a whole lot of

1279
01:00:17,533 --> 01:00:19,733
Speaker 2: people texting that they're too scared to go out into

1280
01:00:19,773 --> 01:00:21,173
Speaker 2: places that they used to party in.

1281
01:00:21,933 --> 01:00:26,173
Speaker 25: Yeah, there is homeless, homelessness on the streets, but you

1282
01:00:26,213 --> 01:00:28,933
Speaker 25: should see, you know, I'm on this on the streets

1283
01:00:29,253 --> 01:00:32,453
Speaker 25: with my work or both both my my my roles,

1284
01:00:32,933 --> 01:00:35,533
Speaker 25: and I'm really impressed by the police and how they're

1285
01:00:35,533 --> 01:00:40,093
Speaker 25: handling things, really empathetic and that that that gives you

1286
01:00:40,173 --> 01:00:43,413
Speaker 25: a lot of confidence as well. Uh, you know, every

1287
01:00:43,453 --> 01:00:46,733
Speaker 25: city has it has its issues. You know, it tells

1288
01:00:46,773 --> 01:00:49,373
Speaker 25: you something about the climate too. If people can live

1289
01:00:49,493 --> 01:00:53,133
Speaker 25: rough here, you know it's bad. But you know people

1290
01:00:53,173 --> 01:00:56,133
Speaker 25: are generous too, you know, the generous to to the

1291
01:00:56,333 --> 01:01:00,253
Speaker 25: to the people on the streets and in many many ways.

1292
01:01:00,613 --> 01:01:05,373
Speaker 25: And it's just a really small minority that that cause difficulties.

1293
01:01:05,733 --> 01:01:08,093
Speaker 25: You know, I wouldn't have any hesitation going down to

1294
01:01:08,173 --> 01:01:12,493
Speaker 25: court in place or you know, the waterfront at most times.

1295
01:01:12,893 --> 01:01:14,693
Speaker 25: You know, you get careful.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much. For your call, Simon, we've

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Speaker 2: just got to go to an advase.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a good advocate. Yeah, you're a great advocate

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01:01:21,133 --> 01:01:23,213
Speaker 3: for Wellington. We love that, Simon, thank you very much.

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01:01:23,333 --> 01:01:26,093
Speaker 3: I mean he was fizzing on Wellington and he was

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01:01:26,573 --> 01:01:27,813
Speaker 3: you know, he started to sell it to me.

1302
01:01:28,813 --> 01:01:31,253
Speaker 2: Well, you know, living rough and Wellington. I've always thought

1303
01:01:31,253 --> 01:01:33,093
Speaker 2: that's pretty hard because you had the old blanket man

1304
01:01:33,173 --> 01:01:35,493
Speaker 2: and he was pretty much nude under that blanket. Yeah,

1305
01:01:35,653 --> 01:01:37,413
Speaker 2: look like a warm blanket though didn't. But you know,

1306
01:01:37,693 --> 01:01:40,213
Speaker 2: also you know people that were absolute advocates for down there,

1307
01:01:40,213 --> 01:01:42,573
Speaker 2: of course was the recently departed Sir Bob Jones. Yeah,

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01:01:42,733 --> 01:01:44,773
Speaker 2: very true. So you know, for for a city that

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01:01:44,853 --> 01:01:47,893
Speaker 2: allegedly hates tall poppies, it's created some of our some

1310
01:01:48,013 --> 01:01:49,213
Speaker 2: of our tallest poppies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nicely said. It is twenty seven to three oh

1312
01:01:52,133 --> 01:01:54,293
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty teen eighty is the number to call.

1313
01:01:54,613 --> 01:01:56,973
Speaker 3: How do you deal with the crazy weather in Wellington?

1314
01:01:57,013 --> 01:01:59,373
Speaker 3: And do you want to hit back at this Australian

1315
01:01:59,453 --> 01:02:01,693
Speaker 3: man who says that it's cold, dark and depressing?

1316
01:02:01,973 --> 01:02:04,293
Speaker 2: Listic? It says, I'm a god? What's this guy talking about? Wellington?

1317
01:02:04,373 --> 01:02:10,133
Speaker 2: Is not God? Smackingly beautiful, It's rubbish severed through contrasting

1318
01:02:10,173 --> 01:02:11,013
Speaker 2: opinion love.

1319
01:02:10,893 --> 01:02:16,693
Speaker 17: It you talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis

1320
01:02:16,853 --> 01:02:19,853
Speaker 17: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. Kiwis are being

1321
01:02:19,893 --> 01:02:24,013
Speaker 17: warned against traveling to Cambodia and Thailand as tensions rise

1322
01:02:24,173 --> 01:02:27,613
Speaker 17: at their border. Kiwis in either country urged to register

1323
01:02:27,773 --> 01:02:31,573
Speaker 17: with Safe Travel. Questions about where the META can address

1324
01:02:31,693 --> 01:02:34,773
Speaker 17: the dozens of Class A drugs being openly advertised on

1325
01:02:34,933 --> 01:02:39,053
Speaker 17: Facebook marketplace. Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith says he'll be writing

1326
01:02:39,133 --> 01:02:43,253
Speaker 17: to META to find out more. The nurses organizations calling

1327
01:02:43,293 --> 01:02:47,053
Speaker 17: the latest hiring figures a huge blow is over half

1328
01:02:47,173 --> 01:02:52,253
Speaker 17: of midyear graduates miss out on public health jobs. Australian

1329
01:02:52,293 --> 01:02:55,013
Speaker 17: figures show more than ninety two thousand New Zealand nationals

1330
01:02:55,053 --> 01:02:59,933
Speaker 17: submitted an application for Australian citizenship in the past two years,

1331
01:03:00,453 --> 01:03:05,573
Speaker 17: but those around half weren't actually born here. Canterby University

1332
01:03:05,693 --> 01:03:08,173
Speaker 17: is launching a new degree to meet the needs of

1333
01:03:08,173 --> 01:03:11,493
Speaker 17: our health sector. The new Bachelor of Health is expected

1334
01:03:11,493 --> 01:03:15,333
Speaker 17: to reflect a broader, more holistic understanding, including mental and

1335
01:03:15,453 --> 01:03:20,173
Speaker 17: public health and nutrition. Ice cream cubes spray on with

1336
01:03:20,333 --> 01:03:24,173
Speaker 17: sabi and everything else sampled at the food show. See

1337
01:03:24,213 --> 01:03:26,533
Speaker 17: the story it ends aid here all premium. Now back

1338
01:03:26,573 --> 01:03:27,973
Speaker 17: to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

1339
01:03:28,053 --> 01:03:30,453
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raileen. We're talking about this young Australian.

1340
01:03:30,533 --> 01:03:33,693
Speaker 3: He's had a massive crack at Wellington online. It's gone viral.

1341
01:03:33,773 --> 01:03:35,453
Speaker 3: His name is Carshi used a little bit of what

1342
01:03:35,573 --> 01:03:36,293
Speaker 3: he says.

1343
01:03:36,453 --> 01:03:39,733
Speaker 22: And I still managed to find myself constantly sick here.

1344
01:03:40,133 --> 01:03:44,213
Speaker 22: It is cold, it is dark, it is gloomy, it

1345
01:03:44,333 --> 01:03:47,573
Speaker 22: is depressing, It is raining almost all the time. You

1346
01:03:47,653 --> 01:03:49,213
Speaker 22: get a couple of good days here and there in

1347
01:03:49,333 --> 01:03:52,893
Speaker 22: summer is nice, And I think that reflects really hard

1348
01:03:53,013 --> 01:03:55,093
Speaker 22: on a lot of the people that live here. I

1349
01:03:55,253 --> 01:03:59,093
Speaker 22: have never met in my life. In my short time here,

1350
01:03:59,773 --> 01:04:07,933
Speaker 22: people more unmotivated and depressed and bummy and doing it rough,

1351
01:04:08,333 --> 01:04:10,413
Speaker 22: and I have since I've moved here, And I think

1352
01:04:10,413 --> 01:04:12,813
Speaker 22: it almost creates this net. This country definitely does have

1353
01:04:12,933 --> 01:04:15,573
Speaker 22: some tall poppy issues. But I think those tall poppy

1354
01:04:15,613 --> 01:04:17,253
Speaker 22: issues come from a point of jealousy.

1355
01:04:17,653 --> 01:04:19,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, he goes, so we did a drive by on

1356
01:04:19,213 --> 01:04:20,933
Speaker 2: the entire country there at the end that the whole

1357
01:04:20,933 --> 01:04:26,533
Speaker 2: country's got a tall poppy situation there. But is he right?

1358
01:04:26,733 --> 01:04:34,933
Speaker 2: Is Wellington absolutely rubbish, as this young Australian says Jonathan Happen.

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01:04:35,533 --> 01:04:37,453
Speaker 26: Guys, No, absolutely not.

1360
01:04:39,133 --> 01:04:39,173
Speaker 20: That.

1361
01:04:39,853 --> 01:04:42,973
Speaker 26: I just just hearing out again. It is not dark,

1362
01:04:43,493 --> 01:04:47,653
Speaker 26: it is not gloomy. Yes, winter can be harsh, but

1363
01:04:47,733 --> 01:04:50,133
Speaker 26: we've got a beautiful day to day here. It's nice

1364
01:04:50,173 --> 01:04:54,453
Speaker 26: and sunny, not much in the way of wind. But yeah,

1365
01:04:54,453 --> 01:04:59,213
Speaker 26: it was pretty cold this morning, but winter's you just

1366
01:04:59,533 --> 01:05:00,733
Speaker 26: you've just got to hunker down.

1367
01:05:01,453 --> 01:05:04,453
Speaker 2: What about the what about the attitude of the people, people, Jonathan,

1368
01:05:04,533 --> 01:05:06,573
Speaker 2: what about the attitude and the wellness of the people.

1369
01:05:09,733 --> 01:05:11,413
Speaker 26: Again, I think he's way out the top there and

1370
01:05:11,533 --> 01:05:14,733
Speaker 26: this was unnecessary and a thatt your attitude. Well, then

1371
01:05:15,693 --> 01:05:16,933
Speaker 26: go home and good riddance to you.

1372
01:05:18,173 --> 01:05:20,373
Speaker 2: Well, this is what someone said. He can go home

1373
01:05:20,413 --> 01:05:22,453
Speaker 2: to his mommy in Queensland and never come back.

1374
01:05:22,493 --> 01:05:26,053
Speaker 26: Since this teachers he sounds like a sick little puppy.

1375
01:05:26,693 --> 01:05:30,853
Speaker 26: I've lived in Runnington for coming out fifty years and

1376
01:05:31,093 --> 01:05:35,813
Speaker 26: I've seldom, if ever been sick. The rest that might

1377
01:05:35,853 --> 01:05:37,853
Speaker 26: happen else, I might get a sniffle and maybe need

1378
01:05:37,893 --> 01:05:42,053
Speaker 26: to blame my nose once or twice. So I'm very

1379
01:05:42,133 --> 01:05:43,413
Speaker 26: lucky and fortunate in that respect.

1380
01:05:43,413 --> 01:05:45,093
Speaker 2: Well, do you think post. Possibly his problem is that

1381
01:05:45,173 --> 01:05:47,293
Speaker 2: he is acclimatized to the Queensland.

1382
01:05:48,133 --> 01:05:51,453
Speaker 26: Oh god, yeah, Queensland. Yeah, anyone that comes out of

1383
01:05:51,453 --> 01:05:56,653
Speaker 26: from Queensland to here, what would absolutely get what would

1384
01:05:56,693 --> 01:06:00,093
Speaker 26: be a major That would be a major.

1385
01:06:00,333 --> 01:06:02,893
Speaker 2: Have you lived in many other places in the world, Jonathan.

1386
01:06:04,133 --> 01:06:05,973
Speaker 26: Not outside in New Zealand, though I was born and

1387
01:06:06,093 --> 01:06:10,813
Speaker 26: raised in Auckland. Love Auckland. And that's the thing I

1388
01:06:10,933 --> 01:06:13,533
Speaker 26: like about Wellington Compared to Auckland. It could probably be

1389
01:06:13,573 --> 01:06:16,813
Speaker 26: fit Wellington on the north shore of Auckland. It's Wellington

1390
01:06:16,933 --> 01:06:19,493
Speaker 26: is a lovely compact city. It's easy to get around,

1391
01:06:19,773 --> 01:06:23,133
Speaker 26: great public transport, both train and buses. If you are

1392
01:06:23,253 --> 01:06:25,373
Speaker 26: driving again, you know, it's not not fair to get

1393
01:06:25,453 --> 01:06:28,413
Speaker 26: Newhe you could probably probably from Upperhart to Island Bay.

1394
01:06:28,453 --> 01:06:30,973
Speaker 26: You might might take your thirty minutes forty five pet stops.

1395
01:06:31,293 --> 01:06:33,653
Speaker 2: Are you getting impressed by the tall poppy syndrome that

1396
01:06:33,733 --> 01:06:37,493
Speaker 2: he's spotting? He says, everyone's miserable and the tool poppy

1397
01:06:37,493 --> 01:06:38,413
Speaker 2: syndrome is real.

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01:06:39,413 --> 01:06:44,013
Speaker 26: Rubbish, absolute rubbish, tall poppy syndrome. No, we've had the filming.

1399
01:06:44,133 --> 01:06:47,253
Speaker 26: You know, those those names mentioned before, Sir Peter Jackson,

1400
01:06:47,413 --> 01:06:56,053
Speaker 26: fan wild the film industry tycho Waititi the concords. No,

1401
01:06:56,813 --> 01:06:58,573
Speaker 26: I don't feel there's a tall poppy here.

1402
01:07:00,213 --> 01:07:02,173
Speaker 2: As it lost its mojo a little bit in the

1403
01:07:02,253 --> 01:07:05,133
Speaker 2: last five years because because because Wellington used to be

1404
01:07:05,533 --> 01:07:08,293
Speaker 2: so confident, it used to be basically giving Auckland the birds,

1405
01:07:08,333 --> 01:07:10,213
Speaker 2: saying we've got the better culture. You guys may be

1406
01:07:10,253 --> 01:07:11,813
Speaker 2: the biggest city, but we've got more going on.

1407
01:07:12,653 --> 01:07:16,333
Speaker 26: And yeah, I think, sorry, now you think Wellington has

1408
01:07:16,333 --> 01:07:19,733
Speaker 26: stuff had the worst in my opinion, and probably somebody

1409
01:07:20,533 --> 01:07:23,493
Speaker 26: called us might ring up and disagree with us. I

1410
01:07:23,653 --> 01:07:26,693
Speaker 26: think at at the moment, I think Wellington's probably got

1411
01:07:26,733 --> 01:07:28,013
Speaker 26: the worst counsel in New Zealand.

1412
01:07:29,573 --> 01:07:32,453
Speaker 2: It's just find someone that disagrees with that.

1413
01:07:34,053 --> 01:07:37,853
Speaker 26: Yeah, but no, it's it has lost its mojo, Bonnington.

1414
01:07:38,893 --> 01:07:41,053
Speaker 26: It's still got a good night life on Friday night,

1415
01:07:41,133 --> 01:07:45,813
Speaker 26: Saturday nights, good good pub scene, good restaurant scene, social scene,

1416
01:07:45,893 --> 01:07:47,133
Speaker 26: all that still exists.

1417
01:07:47,933 --> 01:07:49,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you so much for you call Jonathan

1418
01:07:49,653 --> 01:07:51,813
Speaker 2: going into bat for Wellington. The more I hear of

1419
01:07:51,933 --> 01:07:54,013
Speaker 2: that young cashy guy, the more I think he does

1420
01:07:54,093 --> 01:07:57,093
Speaker 2: seem like hard work, doesn't he He lost me and

1421
01:07:57,133 --> 01:07:59,853
Speaker 2: I'm hitting my macros and I'm still getting sick. So

1422
01:07:59,973 --> 01:08:03,373
Speaker 2: you're hitting your macros. You're you're eating you know, I

1423
01:08:03,493 --> 01:08:06,533
Speaker 2: know what your macros are. There's macros or my partner,

1424
01:08:06,653 --> 01:08:08,773
Speaker 2: she's big on the gym. There's macros all over for house.

1425
01:08:08,813 --> 01:08:11,653
Speaker 2: Yeah she's said love the macros. Yeah she loves the macros.

1426
01:08:12,213 --> 01:08:14,493
Speaker 2: But that doesn't stop you getting for say, there are

1427
01:08:14,533 --> 01:08:17,452
Speaker 2: two types of kiwis, those with can do and those

1428
01:08:17,613 --> 01:08:21,013
Speaker 2: with won't do neither can you. I like the first kind,

1429
01:08:21,013 --> 01:08:24,173
Speaker 2: and I'm gradually learning to dislike the second. Great text.

1430
01:08:24,213 --> 01:08:26,812
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

1431
01:08:27,133 --> 01:08:29,692
Speaker 3: Are you backing Wellington? If you've heard this young man's rant?

1432
01:08:29,772 --> 01:08:30,852
Speaker 3: What do you want to say to him? Oh eight

1433
01:08:30,933 --> 01:08:33,053
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It's

1434
01:08:33,093 --> 01:08:33,732
Speaker 3: eighteen to three.

1435
01:08:34,213 --> 01:08:39,812
Speaker 2: Wellington is depressing, pushing into the sea. Wow, how would

1436
01:08:39,812 --> 01:08:42,572
Speaker 2: you do that? It's pretty close. I suppose there's more

1437
01:08:42,612 --> 01:08:45,293
Speaker 2: retaining walls in Wellington than any other city probably in

1438
01:08:45,372 --> 01:08:46,652
Speaker 2: the world. You'd be pushing hard.

1439
01:08:49,133 --> 01:08:52,293
Speaker 1: Matt heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh, eight

1440
01:08:52,412 --> 01:08:56,652
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons.

1441
01:08:56,213 --> 01:08:59,012
Speaker 2: News Talks V afternoon. It is a quarter to three.

1442
01:08:59,412 --> 01:09:03,613
Speaker 2: So this guy, this Australian that's come from Queensland to Wellington,

1443
01:09:04,173 --> 01:09:07,372
Speaker 2: he's posted. He says he absolutely hates it. Everyone's depressing,

1444
01:09:07,412 --> 01:09:10,573
Speaker 2: there's a tall poppy sing rome, everyone's no one's motivated,

1445
01:09:10,612 --> 01:09:12,972
Speaker 2: and he's going home to mummy. While I'm adding that, yeah,

1446
01:09:13,053 --> 01:09:15,293
Speaker 2: well he is. But you know, part of it we

1447
01:09:15,333 --> 01:09:17,732
Speaker 2: were thinking maybe, Look, he's come from a very warm climate.

1448
01:09:17,853 --> 01:09:21,053
Speaker 2: Queensland is a beautiful climate. Well, it's humid. I mean,

1449
01:09:21,053 --> 01:09:24,612
Speaker 2: there's some challenges to the Queensland climate absolutely, but it's

1450
01:09:25,372 --> 01:09:28,492
Speaker 2: it's consistently warm. Yeah, and brizzy it is, and on

1451
01:09:28,572 --> 01:09:31,812
Speaker 2: the Goldie yeap. So it'd be interesting to talk to

1452
01:09:31,893 --> 01:09:34,932
Speaker 2: Grant here because Grant, you're an immigrant to Wellington from

1453
01:09:35,013 --> 01:09:37,852
Speaker 2: South Africa, and South Africa is known to get pretty

1454
01:09:37,893 --> 01:09:39,932
Speaker 2: warm at times. And what do you think of Wellington?

1455
01:09:41,133 --> 01:09:43,932
Speaker 27: Hey, Matt and Tyler Wilder. Thanks for having me, guys.

1456
01:09:44,013 --> 01:09:46,852
Speaker 27: Good good subject, mate, really good and I'm glad I'm

1457
01:09:46,853 --> 01:09:48,852
Speaker 27: on again. I've been on once before, so thanks for

1458
01:09:49,173 --> 01:09:53,333
Speaker 27: having me. Look I love it great, grandly love it. Yeah, yeah, no,

1459
01:09:53,452 --> 01:09:56,333
Speaker 27: Look it's a fantastic city. I've been here seventeen years

1460
01:09:57,253 --> 01:09:59,213
Speaker 27: own my own business, well, my wife and I own

1461
01:09:59,253 --> 01:10:01,852
Speaker 27: I'm business in the city and we really love it.

1462
01:10:01,973 --> 01:10:02,452
Speaker 4: The climate.

1463
01:10:02,532 --> 01:10:06,132
Speaker 27: Look, the climate's not great, but you can find fault everywhere.

1464
01:10:06,133 --> 01:10:08,452
Speaker 27: I mean my wife grew up in Durban and she

1465
01:10:08,612 --> 01:10:11,612
Speaker 27: battled with the humidity and the heat and she loves

1466
01:10:11,652 --> 01:10:15,133
Speaker 27: Wellington and you know, we just find it great. And

1467
01:10:15,173 --> 01:10:17,372
Speaker 27: when when you're finding fault in anything, man, you know,

1468
01:10:17,412 --> 01:10:20,093
Speaker 27: when people meet me, they say, mate, you talk too much,

1469
01:10:20,133 --> 01:10:22,012
Speaker 27: and I think, well, if that's all you can find

1470
01:10:22,053 --> 01:10:25,452
Speaker 27: fault with, great nomber Auckland friends come down and they

1471
01:10:25,492 --> 01:10:29,092
Speaker 27: say it's windy, and it's you know, it's windy. It's windy.

1472
01:10:29,213 --> 01:10:31,293
Speaker 27: Well that's all you can find faultless. And it's great

1473
01:10:31,372 --> 01:10:33,173
Speaker 27: to stay out of the wind or if it rains,

1474
01:10:33,213 --> 01:10:37,572
Speaker 27: put a raincoat on. You know, it's a good city man.

1475
01:10:37,652 --> 01:10:40,253
Speaker 27: You know these previous callers, every single one of them

1476
01:10:40,293 --> 01:10:41,053
Speaker 27: have hit its spot on.

1477
01:10:41,612 --> 01:10:43,492
Speaker 2: Well, that's the key though, it's just going to take

1478
01:10:43,532 --> 01:10:44,893
Speaker 2: you back to a point that you've made there and

1479
01:10:44,933 --> 01:10:47,133
Speaker 2: Wellington definitely put a raincoat on. Don't try to put

1480
01:10:47,213 --> 01:10:49,452
Speaker 2: up an umbrella exactly.

1481
01:10:51,532 --> 01:10:52,732
Speaker 28: We try to find the umbrellas.

1482
01:10:52,772 --> 01:10:53,972
Speaker 27: When we first moved to Willington.

1483
01:10:54,053 --> 01:10:55,213
Speaker 4: We wondered why we couldn't find them.

1484
01:10:56,452 --> 01:11:00,053
Speaker 27: Yes, I don't exist because you can't move them.

1485
01:11:00,253 --> 01:11:02,612
Speaker 2: What about the attitude of the people, Grant, because a

1486
01:11:02,652 --> 01:11:04,532
Speaker 2: lot of what this guy is saying is that there's

1487
01:11:04,572 --> 01:11:08,612
Speaker 2: the tall poppy syndrome. People are motivated this sickle time.

1488
01:11:08,772 --> 01:11:09,932
Speaker 2: Is that your experience, Grant?

1489
01:11:10,973 --> 01:11:11,532
Speaker 4: No, no, all.

1490
01:11:11,812 --> 01:11:14,852
Speaker 27: I mean I've got sick during COVID and that's it.

1491
01:11:15,133 --> 01:11:17,013
Speaker 27: I haven't been sick at all in Willington.

1492
01:11:17,732 --> 01:11:18,532
Speaker 2: Editing your micros.

1493
01:11:20,053 --> 01:11:25,013
Speaker 27: Yeah, that's all right. You know, you've got to what

1494
01:11:25,133 --> 01:11:27,852
Speaker 27: I do like about the city. It's small so compared

1495
01:11:27,893 --> 01:11:30,492
Speaker 27: to where I come from and other cities in the world.

1496
01:11:30,933 --> 01:11:32,932
Speaker 27: So for me getting around as a chip and a put.

1497
01:11:33,452 --> 01:11:36,532
Speaker 27: You know, there's good traffic, there's good you know there's not. Yes,

1498
01:11:36,612 --> 01:11:38,692
Speaker 27: we have the odd traffic jam here and there, like

1499
01:11:38,853 --> 01:11:40,692
Speaker 27: every city, but you're not sitting in the traffic for

1500
01:11:40,772 --> 01:11:44,532
Speaker 27: two hours twenty thirty minutes on the worst scenario. Coming

1501
01:11:44,572 --> 01:11:48,852
Speaker 27: in transmission, Gutty is a great improvement for those guys

1502
01:11:48,973 --> 01:11:51,612
Speaker 27: coming from the coast, guys coming from Upper Hat. Look,

1503
01:11:51,652 --> 01:11:54,372
Speaker 27: A're going to have a few challenges in billing interchange changes.

1504
01:11:54,812 --> 01:11:58,253
Speaker 27: But now once that's finished. That'll be great on that side,

1505
01:11:58,253 --> 01:12:00,372
Speaker 27: and we're going to have this beautiful walkway going around

1506
01:12:00,452 --> 01:12:05,053
Speaker 27: the harbor soon. Look, the center of the city. My

1507
01:12:05,333 --> 01:12:07,612
Speaker 27: personal opinion, and we've all had our opinions today, but

1508
01:12:08,333 --> 01:12:10,293
Speaker 27: there's not opinions. I think it started going wrong with

1509
01:12:10,372 --> 01:12:14,892
Speaker 27: the earthquakes. We unfortunately had those horrible earthquakes, which then

1510
01:12:15,093 --> 01:12:17,852
Speaker 27: obviously took a few people out of the city. We

1511
01:12:17,973 --> 01:12:21,532
Speaker 27: had roadworks going on, and you know, reading cinemas and

1512
01:12:21,612 --> 01:12:24,452
Speaker 27: that whole area closing down that that didn't do anything

1513
01:12:24,492 --> 01:12:27,013
Speaker 27: for the city, and then to make it worse. And look,

1514
01:12:27,053 --> 01:12:28,732
Speaker 27: I do I want to criticize other people in the

1515
01:12:28,772 --> 01:12:31,052
Speaker 27: way they do their jobs, but over the last couple

1516
01:12:31,093 --> 01:12:34,133
Speaker 27: of years of some of the changes with the walkways

1517
01:12:34,213 --> 01:12:37,173
Speaker 27: and the cycle lanes and the and the bus that's

1518
01:12:37,253 --> 01:12:39,652
Speaker 27: definitely affected business big time. And you have to feel

1519
01:12:39,933 --> 01:12:43,452
Speaker 27: really sorry for those businesses in the city because you know,

1520
01:12:43,532 --> 01:12:46,372
Speaker 27: you've got guys that invested huge amounts of money in

1521
01:12:46,492 --> 01:12:50,452
Speaker 27: some great cafes which just don't exist anymore. And so

1522
01:12:51,013 --> 01:12:52,732
Speaker 27: you know, there's been a bit of impact there. But

1523
01:12:52,812 --> 01:12:54,372
Speaker 27: I think it's going to come back. You know, I'm

1524
01:12:54,933 --> 01:12:57,293
Speaker 27: a little bit in the hospitality industry, and I've just

1525
01:12:57,372 --> 01:13:00,173
Speaker 27: seen some really good shoots coming through with you know,

1526
01:13:00,692 --> 01:13:05,892
Speaker 27: guys reinventing themselves. There's been a few changes you've got.

1527
01:13:06,013 --> 01:13:09,293
Speaker 2: You've got a fantastic attitude and I love to hear it.

1528
01:13:09,293 --> 01:13:11,772
Speaker 2: But I've got to ask this question. So there's another

1529
01:13:11,812 --> 01:13:15,053
Speaker 2: famous South African Grant that's a welling Tonian. Now you're

1530
01:13:15,093 --> 01:13:17,372
Speaker 2: not the Heary jam are you. You're not Grant Elliott,

1531
01:13:17,412 --> 01:13:17,572
Speaker 2: are you.

1532
01:13:18,532 --> 01:13:21,732
Speaker 27: I'm not granted that I've never met him, and I

1533
01:13:21,853 --> 01:13:23,852
Speaker 27: do believe that he comes from Johannesburg as well.

1534
01:13:23,973 --> 01:13:26,452
Speaker 2: But he's a great bloke. He's a good import.

1535
01:13:26,772 --> 01:13:29,092
Speaker 27: He loves some fantastic imports.

1536
01:13:29,293 --> 01:13:29,532
Speaker 20: Yeah.

1537
01:13:30,093 --> 01:13:31,532
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. I'm glad that you moved

1538
01:13:31,532 --> 01:13:33,492
Speaker 2: to New Zealand and you moved to Wellington and you're

1539
01:13:33,532 --> 01:13:35,652
Speaker 2: loving it and you're not winging and whining on social

1540
01:13:35,732 --> 01:13:37,372
Speaker 2: media about it. You're just getting on with it, running

1541
01:13:37,372 --> 01:13:39,973
Speaker 2: a business and becoming a great New Zealander. Thank you

1542
01:13:40,053 --> 01:13:42,013
Speaker 2: so much for your call, Grant, your second called to us,

1543
01:13:42,013 --> 01:13:43,092
Speaker 2: and both of them being fantastic.

1544
01:13:43,213 --> 01:13:43,452
Speaker 7: Love it.

1545
01:13:43,532 --> 01:13:45,053
Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1546
01:13:45,173 --> 01:13:47,973
Speaker 3: number to call. It is ten to three if you

1547
01:13:48,053 --> 01:13:49,612
Speaker 3: live in Wellington. Why do you love it? And if

1548
01:13:49,652 --> 01:13:52,492
Speaker 3: you think it is a whole by all means, give

1549
01:13:52,532 --> 01:13:54,532
Speaker 3: us a call and tell us why Beck in the month.

1550
01:13:55,572 --> 01:13:57,972
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1551
01:13:58,053 --> 01:14:01,972
Speaker 1: along the way, mad Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons, News talks,

1552
01:14:01,973 --> 01:14:02,293
Speaker 1: It be.

1553
01:14:03,333 --> 01:14:05,532
Speaker 2: News talks, there be it is eight to three. I

1554
01:14:05,612 --> 01:14:08,452
Speaker 2: reckon the demise of Wellington's seven sucked a life and

1555
01:14:08,532 --> 01:14:10,652
Speaker 2: fun out of Wellington. The slogan should be Wellington with

1556
01:14:10,772 --> 01:14:14,412
Speaker 2: fun goes to dice is Rory. Absolutely when the sevens

1557
01:14:14,492 --> 01:14:17,452
Speaker 2: was going off, Wellington was god. It was fun visiting

1558
01:14:17,692 --> 01:14:21,452
Speaker 2: Wellington for the sevens. Rich is your thoughts on Wellington?

1559
01:14:21,492 --> 01:14:23,173
Speaker 2: We can we can only have you for about forty

1560
01:14:23,173 --> 01:14:26,333
Speaker 2: five seconds, so go hard quickly please, all right, all right.

1561
01:14:26,893 --> 01:14:29,412
Speaker 13: I'm born in Auckland. I come from a family of

1562
01:14:29,933 --> 01:14:33,372
Speaker 13: Dutch background. There's a lot of Dutch and Wellington. I

1563
01:14:33,532 --> 01:14:38,293
Speaker 13: grew up down there with every holiday that you could

1564
01:14:38,452 --> 01:14:42,132
Speaker 13: think of as a child, going through with school, holidays, everything.

1565
01:14:42,772 --> 01:14:48,093
Speaker 13: I think Wellington as a whole well of gorse, full

1566
01:14:48,133 --> 01:14:51,932
Speaker 13: of those yellow flowers and gorse. It's like going back

1567
01:14:52,053 --> 01:14:55,013
Speaker 13: in time. I was only there two months ago for

1568
01:14:55,133 --> 01:14:58,492
Speaker 13: a family funeral, and I just thought, this is why

1569
01:14:58,612 --> 01:14:59,612
Speaker 13: I don't visit the.

1570
01:14:59,692 --> 01:15:01,892
Speaker 2: Place too much. Gorse in Wellington.

1571
01:15:03,853 --> 01:15:05,612
Speaker 20: Yeah, well, how about the houses?

1572
01:15:05,933 --> 01:15:09,692
Speaker 13: I mean, everything's back from the thirties and fifty What.

1573
01:15:09,772 --> 01:15:11,772
Speaker 2: About the people? Are the people happy? Are the people

1574
01:15:12,013 --> 01:15:15,372
Speaker 2: happy and vibrant and kicking down doors and making things happen?

1575
01:15:15,572 --> 01:15:15,852
Speaker 4: Richard?

1576
01:15:16,732 --> 01:15:19,093
Speaker 13: Well, look, I think when you're born there, you've got

1577
01:15:19,173 --> 01:15:20,812
Speaker 13: to deal with what you've got, and they make.

1578
01:15:20,772 --> 01:15:21,333
Speaker 20: The most of it.

1579
01:15:21,532 --> 01:15:26,973
Speaker 13: But town life, city life at night time's amazing and

1580
01:15:27,093 --> 01:15:30,093
Speaker 13: Wellington other than that, no thanks, you can have it,

1581
01:15:30,293 --> 01:15:31,452
Speaker 13: give it to someone else.

1582
01:15:32,253 --> 01:15:35,772
Speaker 2: That's Richard's opinion. Now we're going to bring Barry soaper

1583
01:15:35,853 --> 01:15:40,852
Speaker 2: news talks. They'd be senior political correspondent to the show

1584
01:15:40,973 --> 01:15:44,572
Speaker 2: on Wellington. You spent a lot of time there, having

1585
01:15:44,612 --> 01:15:45,212
Speaker 2: you Barry.

1586
01:15:45,812 --> 01:15:49,452
Speaker 28: Oh, well, most of the life actually, you know, well

1587
01:15:49,532 --> 01:15:52,612
Speaker 28: over forty years. I've spent one time. In fact, at

1588
01:15:52,652 --> 01:15:57,253
Speaker 28: the moment, lads, I'm driving into a beautifully sunny Wellington

1589
01:15:57,333 --> 01:15:59,572
Speaker 28: day about to go through the mount back tonel so

1590
01:16:00,053 --> 01:16:03,932
Speaker 28: you may lose the signal. Although technology in this city

1591
01:16:04,093 --> 01:16:07,293
Speaker 28: is probably so good that will continue talking.

1592
01:16:08,412 --> 01:16:10,293
Speaker 2: Do you love about Wellington, Barry?

1593
01:16:11,133 --> 01:16:14,293
Speaker 28: I love the size for a start, because there's nowhere

1594
01:16:14,732 --> 01:16:17,013
Speaker 28: that you can't really walk to if you're in the

1595
01:16:17,452 --> 01:16:22,253
Speaker 28: sort of the the center sort of the Wellington. I

1596
01:16:22,492 --> 01:16:26,972
Speaker 28: like the size, in particular the weather everybody Winge is about,

1597
01:16:27,093 --> 01:16:31,932
Speaker 28: but they also acclaim any day that day in Welmington,

1598
01:16:32,053 --> 01:16:35,613
Speaker 28: it's remembered for months on the end that I'm experiencing

1599
01:16:35,732 --> 01:16:39,132
Speaker 28: that right at the moment. So look it to great class.

1600
01:16:40,812 --> 01:16:43,932
Speaker 3: Oh, I think we've just lost Barry in the Mount

1601
01:16:44,093 --> 01:16:46,732
Speaker 3: Victoria tunnel. But he was about to say it's a

1602
01:16:46,732 --> 01:16:48,572
Speaker 3: great place. Oh, we got your bag Bury quickly.

1603
01:16:48,732 --> 01:16:49,532
Speaker 2: The night life.

1604
01:16:51,893 --> 01:16:54,852
Speaker 28: Fantastic. Go down Courtney Place and I have done just

1605
01:16:55,293 --> 01:16:58,333
Speaker 28: at the end of Taranaki Street, right near Courtney Place

1606
01:16:58,333 --> 01:17:02,492
Speaker 28: at one stage. It's always vibrant, it's always rocking. You

1607
01:17:02,612 --> 01:17:05,333
Speaker 28: can always get a meal, even in the early hours

1608
01:17:05,333 --> 01:17:09,213
Speaker 28: of the morning where there I f had Auckland closers up.

1609
01:17:10,173 --> 01:17:15,852
Speaker 2: Yes, Arry, And finally, what about the last few years

1610
01:17:16,053 --> 01:17:19,013
Speaker 2: has Wellington lost its mojo somewhat? It used to be

1611
01:17:19,213 --> 01:17:21,452
Speaker 2: so confident, it used to be giving Auckland the bird.

1612
01:17:21,492 --> 01:17:23,572
Speaker 2: It was absolutely positively this come down and have an

1613
01:17:23,572 --> 01:17:26,892
Speaker 2: af fear with your wife that. But has it fallen

1614
01:17:26,933 --> 01:17:30,013
Speaker 2: off a Cliff a little bit. In the last few years, Barry, I.

1615
01:17:30,053 --> 01:17:33,492
Speaker 28: Think it's been tainted by the governance of Wellington, and

1616
01:17:33,933 --> 01:17:36,932
Speaker 28: you know that I guess that sort of filters through

1617
01:17:37,053 --> 01:17:39,772
Speaker 28: to the community. So I think people are a bit

1618
01:17:39,853 --> 01:17:43,372
Speaker 28: despondent about the way the council has been run. But

1619
01:17:43,812 --> 01:17:47,053
Speaker 28: you know, later this year there's hope ahead. We've got

1620
01:17:47,093 --> 01:17:51,372
Speaker 28: the local body elections and hope that people now enroll

1621
01:17:51,732 --> 01:17:54,652
Speaker 28: and get out and vote in Wellington because we know

1622
01:17:54,812 --> 01:17:58,932
Speaker 28: what we want here. We want celebration, because this city

1623
01:17:59,412 --> 01:18:00,732
Speaker 28: is so capable of it.

1624
01:18:00,893 --> 01:18:02,492
Speaker 2: Well, you're in the tunnel, can you honk your horn

1625
01:18:02,572 --> 01:18:02,812
Speaker 2: for us?

1626
01:18:03,732 --> 01:18:07,093
Speaker 28: No, we've just honked the horn through. You must have

1627
01:18:07,173 --> 01:18:07,932
Speaker 28: heard it all.

1628
01:18:08,452 --> 01:18:10,333
Speaker 2: Can you can you hang it again?

1629
01:18:11,213 --> 01:18:11,412
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1630
01:18:14,213 --> 01:18:14,412
Speaker 4: Nice?

1631
01:18:14,452 --> 01:18:19,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah nice? We took too honking is horn for Wellington.

1632
01:18:19,973 --> 01:18:22,013
Speaker 3: Barry, You're a great man. Thank you very much. Right

1633
01:18:22,053 --> 01:18:24,573
Speaker 3: coming up after the news, Wrestling and Hulk Hogan.

1634
01:18:26,572 --> 01:18:30,892
Speaker 1: Your new home for instateful and Entertaining Talk. It's Mattie

1635
01:18:31,133 --> 01:18:34,452
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk.

1636
01:18:34,333 --> 01:18:37,492
Speaker 3: Sebby Very good afternoon, g Welcome back into the program.

1637
01:18:37,612 --> 01:18:41,412
Speaker 3: Seven past three, So sad News again. This week stars

1638
01:18:41,452 --> 01:18:45,212
Speaker 3: from the Sporting and entertainment industries are remembering Hulk Hogan

1639
01:18:45,372 --> 01:18:48,653
Speaker 3: as a treasure and a trailblazer. The two time WWE

1640
01:18:48,853 --> 01:18:51,492
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer and former World Champion, whose real name

1641
01:18:51,572 --> 01:18:55,293
Speaker 3: was Terry Jean Boela, died at the age of seventy one,

1642
01:18:55,772 --> 01:18:58,253
Speaker 3: and one of those tributes was from a very successful

1643
01:18:58,293 --> 01:19:01,692
Speaker 3: man in wrestling himself, w w E chairman and CEO,

1644
01:19:01,812 --> 01:19:04,772
Speaker 3: Vince McMahon, who paid tribute on X to Hogan, calling

1645
01:19:04,853 --> 01:19:07,812
Speaker 3: him the greatest WWE superstar of all time.

1646
01:19:08,372 --> 01:19:13,652
Speaker 2: You've seen that Netflix documentary series, McMahon, you'll know how

1647
01:19:13,772 --> 01:19:16,293
Speaker 2: they joined an alliance. They formed an alliance that just

1648
01:19:16,612 --> 01:19:21,692
Speaker 2: exploded wrestling and Hulk Hogan became just a superstar that

1649
01:19:21,893 --> 01:19:27,732
Speaker 2: absolutely transcended the sport of wrestling, went into movies. He

1650
01:19:27,893 --> 01:19:32,372
Speaker 2: was absolutely everywhere. There were whole Camaniacs in every school

1651
01:19:32,532 --> 01:19:38,372
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. People absolutely loved him odd because you know,

1652
01:19:38,532 --> 01:19:41,053
Speaker 2: he had probably the rudest haircut anyone's ever had in

1653
01:19:41,093 --> 01:19:46,133
Speaker 2: the history of haircuts. Yeah, crazy, crazy looking guy, but

1654
01:19:46,293 --> 01:19:49,052
Speaker 2: had this absolute charisma and then he took the heel

1655
01:19:49,093 --> 01:19:53,652
Speaker 2: turned with Hollywood. Hulk Hogan an incredible story. His personal

1656
01:19:53,732 --> 01:19:57,253
Speaker 2: life was fraught as a lot of wrestler's personal lives

1657
01:19:57,333 --> 01:19:59,372
Speaker 2: are and you know, some people have problems with him

1658
01:19:59,812 --> 01:20:03,612
Speaker 2: as a man, but as a wrestler and as a

1659
01:20:03,772 --> 01:20:06,932
Speaker 2: cultural icon, you've got to say Hulk Hogan really loomed

1660
01:20:07,053 --> 01:20:09,093
Speaker 2: large over the late eighties nineteen.

1661
01:20:08,853 --> 01:20:11,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, led the way of the golden Golden Age of wrestling.

1662
01:20:12,133 --> 01:20:13,333
Speaker 3: So we want to hear from you on oh, eight

1663
01:20:13,412 --> 01:20:16,612
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty, were you or are you still

1664
01:20:16,652 --> 01:20:20,132
Speaker 3: a massive fan of world wrestling? Were you're a massive

1665
01:20:20,173 --> 01:20:22,452
Speaker 3: fan of Hulk Hogan during those heydays and some of

1666
01:20:22,492 --> 01:20:25,253
Speaker 3: those other fantastastic wrestlers around that time?

1667
01:20:25,412 --> 01:20:28,213
Speaker 2: What was the greatest era of wrestling? And you know,

1668
01:20:28,333 --> 01:20:31,093
Speaker 2: what do you think of Hulk Hogan? You know, as

1669
01:20:31,173 --> 01:20:34,532
Speaker 2: an as a as an entity, loved him, hated him,

1670
01:20:34,532 --> 01:20:36,732
Speaker 2: But what about wrestling as a whole? Do you love

1671
01:20:36,812 --> 01:20:38,852
Speaker 2: it like I do? Or do you think it's a

1672
01:20:38,933 --> 01:20:42,293
Speaker 2: load of stupid, fake rubbish and everyone like me who

1673
01:20:42,372 --> 01:20:45,412
Speaker 2: loves it as an absolute idiot? Do you think macho

1674
01:20:45,532 --> 01:20:48,253
Speaker 2: man Randy Savage was nothing? Have you got no time

1675
01:20:48,372 --> 01:20:52,092
Speaker 2: for rowdy Roddy Piper? Does Andre the Giant mean nothing

1676
01:20:52,213 --> 01:20:53,213
Speaker 2: to you at all?

1677
01:20:54,652 --> 01:20:59,213
Speaker 3: Question the Rock the Rock Diamond Dallas page oh, my god,

1678
01:20:59,973 --> 01:21:02,452
Speaker 3: so many oh eight hundred eighty.

1679
01:21:02,333 --> 01:21:05,612
Speaker 2: Ten eight Stone Cold Steve Austin, Yeah, give us a bars.

1680
01:21:05,612 --> 01:21:08,052
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eight my god, the undertaking

1681
01:21:08,372 --> 01:21:12,012
Speaker 3: you undertake a huge triple h mankind who you mentioned before,

1682
01:21:12,133 --> 01:21:14,492
Speaker 3: Brett the hit Man Heart Yeah, so many. Oh eight

1683
01:21:14,612 --> 01:21:16,812
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call if

1684
01:21:16,812 --> 01:21:18,532
Speaker 3: you're a wrestling fan. Love to hear from you, or

1685
01:21:18,572 --> 01:21:21,452
Speaker 3: if you never saw what the big fuss was about,

1686
01:21:21,572 --> 01:21:23,012
Speaker 3: Love to hear from you as well.

1687
01:21:23,213 --> 01:21:26,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some people that don't see Some people don't

1688
01:21:26,652 --> 01:21:28,692
Speaker 2: see what the fuss is all about. A lot of

1689
01:21:28,732 --> 01:21:33,092
Speaker 2: people just think it's the absolutely stupidest thing that's ever happened.

1690
01:21:33,173 --> 01:21:35,133
Speaker 2: That has led to a whole lot of incredible and

1691
01:21:35,333 --> 01:21:38,932
Speaker 2: dangerous people activities from people like me. Yep, come on through.

1692
01:21:38,973 --> 01:21:40,852
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1693
01:21:40,893 --> 01:21:42,732
Speaker 3: to call right now, though it is ten past three.

1694
01:21:43,612 --> 01:21:45,973
Speaker 2: Every Friday on Matt and Tyler Afternoon on ZB we

1695
01:21:46,133 --> 01:21:48,093
Speaker 2: name the new Zealander of the Week, and honor that

1696
01:21:48,173 --> 01:21:50,412
Speaker 2: we bestow on your behalf to a newsmaker who's had

1697
01:21:50,412 --> 01:21:53,213
Speaker 2: an outsized effect on our great and beautiful nation over

1698
01:21:53,253 --> 01:21:55,893
Speaker 2: the previous week. As always, there'll be three nominees but

1699
01:21:56,053 --> 01:21:59,013
Speaker 2: only one winner, So without further ado, the nominees for

1700
01:21:59,093 --> 01:22:01,213
Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealander of the Week are

1701
01:22:02,173 --> 01:22:05,692
Speaker 2: Nominee one also gets the ID buy that for a

1702
01:22:05,933 --> 01:22:11,293
Speaker 2: dollar seven days the block Pop Sport the Jackie Brown

1703
01:22:11,372 --> 01:22:14,652
Speaker 2: Eye is outrageous fortune. TV three. You have made some

1704
01:22:14,853 --> 01:22:18,173
Speaker 2: of our greatest ever TV shows and after thirty five

1705
01:22:18,253 --> 01:22:20,893
Speaker 2: years of surviving against the odds, fueled on nothing but

1706
01:22:21,173 --> 01:22:24,812
Speaker 2: raw Kiwi talon, a love of entertainment, hard work, and

1707
01:22:24,893 --> 01:22:27,692
Speaker 2: by sucking all the cash out of successful radio stations,

1708
01:22:28,093 --> 01:22:31,293
Speaker 2: you have been sold for a buck to Sky TV.

1709
01:22:31,893 --> 01:22:34,412
Speaker 2: But the joy you have brought to Kiwi since nineteen

1710
01:22:34,452 --> 01:22:37,333
Speaker 2: eighty nine is worth at least three times that much.

1711
01:22:37,812 --> 01:22:41,092
Speaker 2: TV three, May you rise again, refreshed and covered in Sport.

1712
01:22:41,612 --> 01:22:44,652
Speaker 2: You have been nominated for New Zealander of the Week.

1713
01:23:01,572 --> 01:23:01,692
Speaker 28: Now.

1714
01:23:01,772 --> 01:23:04,932
Speaker 2: Nominee two also gets the Based on a True Story Award.

1715
01:23:05,372 --> 01:23:08,412
Speaker 2: A production visionary who helped shape the very sound of

1716
01:23:08,532 --> 01:23:11,772
Speaker 2: music in this country, from Wellington Jam sessions in the

1717
01:23:11,893 --> 01:23:15,732
Speaker 2: late nineties to global acclaim. Your influence was huge and

1718
01:23:15,893 --> 01:23:18,412
Speaker 2: so very very positive. Your sudden loss is that those

1719
01:23:18,452 --> 01:23:20,732
Speaker 2: who loved you, and those who loved what you do

1720
01:23:21,333 --> 01:23:27,012
Speaker 2: are fat Freddy's DJ moo rop very nice man, gone

1721
01:23:27,013 --> 01:23:30,492
Speaker 2: too soon. But there can be only one, and the

1722
01:23:30,572 --> 01:23:35,572
Speaker 2: winner also gets there his dairia reward. You flavor our chicken,

1723
01:23:36,053 --> 01:23:39,892
Speaker 2: You grease our hands, You cover our toast from edge

1724
01:23:39,933 --> 01:23:42,053
Speaker 2: to edge, and on top of that, you keep our

1725
01:23:42,133 --> 01:23:45,772
Speaker 2: economy afloat. When you are up, we are up. But

1726
01:23:45,933 --> 01:23:48,173
Speaker 2: you are also the target of hate. This week the

1727
01:23:48,253 --> 01:23:52,532
Speaker 2: Minister of Finance came for you. Reporters harangued private citizens

1728
01:23:52,572 --> 01:23:55,652
Speaker 2: on the street over you, and twelve hundred ungrateful people

1729
01:23:55,732 --> 01:23:58,452
Speaker 2: texted the mattin Tyler Show, melting down over the extra

1730
01:23:58,532 --> 01:24:02,212
Speaker 2: bucks you are costing them each week. Don't listen. Everything

1731
01:24:02,412 --> 01:24:04,772
Speaker 2: is better with you in it or on it. You

1732
01:24:04,812 --> 01:24:07,213
Speaker 2: would be cheap at twice the price, and we would

1733
01:24:07,293 --> 01:24:10,052
Speaker 2: be better off to pay. Don't listen to the haters.

1734
01:24:10,412 --> 01:24:14,053
Speaker 2: You are pure yellow gold. We love you, we need you.

1735
01:24:14,452 --> 01:24:17,092
Speaker 2: It's a lot better with a little butter, New Zealand

1736
01:24:17,173 --> 01:24:21,252
Speaker 2: Butter you are the Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealander

1737
01:24:21,293 --> 01:24:23,932
Speaker 2: of the Week. Spread the word and take it away.

1738
01:24:24,173 --> 01:24:24,452
Speaker 2: How are we?

1739
01:24:24,612 --> 01:24:57,133
Speaker 7: Morris news Dog Zebby.

1740
01:24:57,253 --> 01:24:59,333
Speaker 2: Is sixteen past three, we're talking about wrestling.

1741
01:24:59,372 --> 01:25:02,133
Speaker 3: The sad news that we heard today, Holt Hogan, one

1742
01:25:02,253 --> 01:25:05,412
Speaker 3: of the WWE superstars, has sadley passed away at the

1743
01:25:05,412 --> 01:25:06,173
Speaker 3: age of seventy one.

1744
01:25:07,412 --> 01:25:07,612
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1745
01:25:07,812 --> 01:25:10,253
Speaker 2: So a lot of people texting this through, which is

1746
01:25:11,253 --> 01:25:13,053
Speaker 2: was so true for me as well. W w F

1747
01:25:13,173 --> 01:25:15,532
Speaker 2: was banned from our intermediate school in nineteen eighty seven

1748
01:25:15,612 --> 01:25:20,012
Speaker 2: eighty eight. As kids, we're trying to figure four leg lots. Yeah,

1749
01:25:20,013 --> 01:25:22,052
Speaker 2: I mean I got in trouble for sneaking out behind

1750
01:25:22,053 --> 01:25:24,293
Speaker 2: my friend and trying to do a sleephold on him. Absolutely,

1751
01:25:24,372 --> 01:25:26,692
Speaker 2: did it go well? The sleephold? Yeah? Well, the thing

1752
01:25:26,732 --> 01:25:28,572
Speaker 2: about the sleepholders didn't never put people to sleep.

1753
01:25:28,893 --> 01:25:32,412
Speaker 3: I mean, you know looks hard to pull off, right, Yeah,

1754
01:25:32,412 --> 01:25:33,772
Speaker 3: and you're right, and when they don't go to sleep,

1755
01:25:33,812 --> 01:25:34,932
Speaker 3: you think what am I doing wrong here?

1756
01:25:35,053 --> 01:25:37,213
Speaker 2: Yeah? As I was never a professional wrestler, so I

1757
01:25:37,253 --> 01:25:39,213
Speaker 2: could never actually put people to sleep. Huge been a

1758
01:25:39,253 --> 01:25:42,333
Speaker 2: brutish the barb beefcake actually and putting people asleep and

1759
01:25:42,333 --> 01:25:44,732
Speaker 2: cutting me here was something I always wanted to do. Well,

1760
01:25:44,772 --> 01:25:49,053
Speaker 2: welcome the show, Scott. Your thought on hul Hogan in

1761
01:25:49,173 --> 01:25:49,893
Speaker 2: that sleephold.

1762
01:25:49,893 --> 01:25:51,892
Speaker 8: The Million Dollar Dream was the best one though, because

1763
01:25:51,893 --> 01:25:55,213
Speaker 8: the arm came through and putting the arm against the throat.

1764
01:25:55,933 --> 01:25:58,492
Speaker 4: So that was there was there was one.

1765
01:25:58,652 --> 01:26:01,133
Speaker 8: I also got put in the principal's office and had

1766
01:26:01,173 --> 01:26:02,973
Speaker 8: a bit of a chat about wrestling moves on the

1767
01:26:03,452 --> 01:26:07,173
Speaker 8: on the on the on the field. At lunchtime, the

1768
01:26:07,253 --> 01:26:08,572
Speaker 8: whole nation came through.

1769
01:26:08,772 --> 01:26:11,852
Speaker 2: There was not a one new six o'clock report for

1770
01:26:12,053 --> 01:26:15,893
Speaker 2: for years without concerns about all wrestling and it was

1771
01:26:16,013 --> 01:26:19,533
Speaker 2: being big done at schools and all all the assemblies

1772
01:26:19,652 --> 01:26:21,732
Speaker 2: that you know, every assembly was that that was just

1773
01:26:21,772 --> 01:26:23,852
Speaker 2: a lecture on all the wrestling that was being done

1774
01:26:23,893 --> 01:26:24,852
Speaker 2: on different parts of the school.

1775
01:26:25,173 --> 01:26:28,132
Speaker 4: So great, Oh man, it was awesome.

1776
01:26:28,532 --> 01:26:33,412
Speaker 8: So I guess my earliest recollection of it was it

1777
01:26:33,532 --> 01:26:36,253
Speaker 8: became I think it was Saturday Night main Well Superstars

1778
01:26:36,293 --> 01:26:38,572
Speaker 8: of Wrestling, I think it was. It was on a

1779
01:26:38,612 --> 01:26:42,372
Speaker 8: Saturday night on TV in z. I think I think

1780
01:26:42,412 --> 01:26:42,572
Speaker 8: it was.

1781
01:26:42,612 --> 01:26:44,412
Speaker 4: It was the only thing we had, wasn't it. So

1782
01:26:44,652 --> 01:26:45,652
Speaker 4: it was TV in Zed.

1783
01:26:46,173 --> 01:26:48,532
Speaker 8: Then the Holster and all that. You had Coco Beware

1784
01:26:48,652 --> 01:26:55,412
Speaker 8: and you had the Bad News Brown Judger Dog. You

1785
01:26:55,532 --> 01:26:58,412
Speaker 8: had all that group of people and they wrestle these guys,

1786
01:26:58,492 --> 01:27:00,612
Speaker 8: these little guys, and they'd smashed them pieces and all that,

1787
01:27:00,973 --> 01:27:04,973
Speaker 8: but the Hogster just just brought everything to life and

1788
01:27:05,612 --> 01:27:09,972
Speaker 8: it made the It made the whole show more exciting

1789
01:27:10,013 --> 01:27:12,172
Speaker 8: because you ended up not really caring about the wrestling.

1790
01:27:12,213 --> 01:27:15,053
Speaker 4: You wanted to hear them chat and you'd have mucho man,

1791
01:27:15,452 --> 01:27:21,372
Speaker 4: you know, and you'd be like, what did he just say?

1792
01:27:21,893 --> 01:27:22,852
Speaker 4: You've had no idea?

1793
01:27:22,893 --> 01:27:25,173
Speaker 8: And then the ultimate worry you came along and he

1794
01:27:25,452 --> 01:27:28,333
Speaker 8: rambled away as well, and it just made.

1795
01:27:28,412 --> 01:27:31,372
Speaker 4: Such good theater, good telly, and then they got in

1796
01:27:31,412 --> 01:27:31,692
Speaker 4: the ring.

1797
01:27:31,732 --> 01:27:33,372
Speaker 8: You're like, oh, that's fun, but can you go through

1798
01:27:33,412 --> 01:27:36,692
Speaker 8: some more yacking because that's hilarious. So and that's where

1799
01:27:36,732 --> 01:27:40,893
Speaker 8: the TV shows aspect of you know, entertainment of the

1800
01:27:40,893 --> 01:27:43,932
Speaker 8: side of wrestling became so prominent and then grew into

1801
01:27:44,013 --> 01:27:46,253
Speaker 8: what it became in the in the late nineties with

1802
01:27:46,452 --> 01:27:50,173
Speaker 8: the Attitude era, Stone Cold, Triple h, the Rock. I mean,

1803
01:27:50,253 --> 01:27:55,852
Speaker 8: the guy just oozed charisma on the microphone, and it

1804
01:27:56,053 --> 01:27:59,212
Speaker 8: leads into the product we have today. Now it's mainstream completely,

1805
01:27:59,293 --> 01:28:02,932
Speaker 8: it's a massive business with t KO and UFC, they're

1806
01:28:02,973 --> 01:28:05,093
Speaker 8: all one and the same together on Netflix.

1807
01:28:05,532 --> 01:28:09,452
Speaker 4: And all of it started with the Bubblegum.

1808
01:28:08,973 --> 01:28:11,812
Speaker 8: Superstar cards that we had, you know, as kids you'd

1809
01:28:11,853 --> 01:28:13,572
Speaker 8: go down the shop and buy the bubblegum cards. And

1810
01:28:13,652 --> 01:28:17,812
Speaker 8: it started with Hulk Hogan, you know, Coco Beware and

1811
01:28:18,013 --> 01:28:21,132
Speaker 8: all those guys doing such a good job of selling

1812
01:28:21,213 --> 01:28:23,452
Speaker 8: the product itself. And then of course they toured as well,

1813
01:28:23,532 --> 01:28:25,973
Speaker 8: and that was cool when Andre the Giant everything, so

1814
01:28:26,173 --> 01:28:28,492
Speaker 8: the Hulkster was to me. You know, I wanted to

1815
01:28:28,532 --> 01:28:30,772
Speaker 8: grow up and be the Hulk stuff. I think every

1816
01:28:30,893 --> 01:28:31,412
Speaker 8: kid wanted to.

1817
01:28:31,412 --> 01:28:32,893
Speaker 4: Be the whole with the yuppie.

1818
01:28:32,612 --> 01:28:35,812
Speaker 8: Haircut, the envitamins, say your prayers and grew your twenty

1819
01:28:35,853 --> 01:28:37,253
Speaker 8: four inch pythons, you know, like.

1820
01:28:37,933 --> 01:28:41,773
Speaker 2: You know, you just wanted to be big and Saco

1821
01:28:41,812 --> 01:28:44,452
Speaker 2: Romaniacs thrown through it.

1822
01:28:44,973 --> 01:28:45,572
Speaker 4: It was fun.

1823
01:28:46,772 --> 01:28:50,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you remember remember that the greatest moment, well

1824
01:28:50,652 --> 01:28:53,133
Speaker 2: arguably the greatest moment in Hulk Hogan's career when he

1825
01:28:53,293 --> 01:28:56,772
Speaker 2: did the absolute impossible, something that never happened before. He

1826
01:28:56,893 --> 01:29:00,692
Speaker 2: body slammed Andre the Giant of What a.

1827
01:29:00,732 --> 01:29:05,532
Speaker 8: Moment, Rissmania three, I think, just just amazing. Apparently it

1828
01:29:05,612 --> 01:29:06,253
Speaker 8: really wrecked his.

1829
01:29:06,333 --> 01:29:06,692
Speaker 4: Back to.

1830
01:29:09,213 --> 01:29:10,612
Speaker 2: So it was so funny.

1831
01:29:11,093 --> 01:29:14,492
Speaker 4: That was a moment, but I totally worrying.

1832
01:29:14,652 --> 01:29:15,333
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I just.

1833
01:29:15,372 --> 01:29:17,772
Speaker 8: Won, you know, the whole Cogan Warrior WrestleMania. That was

1834
01:29:17,893 --> 01:29:19,772
Speaker 8: one of my favorite all time matches because I was

1835
01:29:19,812 --> 01:29:22,612
Speaker 8: a big fan of both and to see two baby faces,

1836
01:29:23,093 --> 01:29:24,732
Speaker 8: you know, or two good guys to don't know what

1837
01:29:24,812 --> 01:29:27,973
Speaker 8: baby faces me that that was, that was I just

1838
01:29:27,973 --> 01:29:29,612
Speaker 8: didn't know where to go with myself, you know. And

1839
01:29:29,652 --> 01:29:32,812
Speaker 8: it was sort of like the Rock and Wholk Hogan

1840
01:29:32,893 --> 01:29:37,133
Speaker 8: WrestleMania eighteen. The crowd swayed backwards and forwards, and then

1841
01:29:37,133 --> 01:29:39,933
Speaker 8: all of a sudden, Hogan became the baby face in

1842
01:29:40,013 --> 01:29:41,372
Speaker 8: that match, and of course he was a heel because

1843
01:29:41,412 --> 01:29:44,093
Speaker 8: he was in WO. And then the Rock became the

1844
01:29:44,213 --> 01:29:46,852
Speaker 8: bad the bad guy if you like. And that one

1845
01:29:47,093 --> 01:29:50,892
Speaker 8: match it just showed you how much those two guys

1846
01:29:50,973 --> 01:29:53,532
Speaker 8: were so well respected and how much you know, all

1847
01:29:53,612 --> 01:29:56,092
Speaker 8: the little kids, all the sorry the adults and teenagers

1848
01:29:56,133 --> 01:29:57,972
Speaker 8: that were in the crowd that were Hulks, the Frians

1849
01:29:58,293 --> 01:30:01,253
Speaker 8: from when they were really young, just that still struck

1850
01:30:01,293 --> 01:30:03,052
Speaker 8: in them. And it was like, man, we want Holks

1851
01:30:03,093 --> 01:30:04,893
Speaker 8: to to be you know, come out and the and

1852
01:30:04,933 --> 01:30:06,892
Speaker 8: the red and yellow to real American and we're done

1853
01:30:06,933 --> 01:30:07,892
Speaker 8: with the n WO stuff.

1854
01:30:07,893 --> 01:30:10,133
Speaker 4: We want the old Holks to back. Come on now. Yeah.

1855
01:30:10,173 --> 01:30:14,293
Speaker 2: Well, you know that was the amazing brilliance of Hulk

1856
01:30:14,372 --> 01:30:16,452
Speaker 2: Hogan to know when his time was up as a

1857
01:30:16,532 --> 01:30:19,572
Speaker 2: babyface and to become Hollywood Hulk Hogan and become become

1858
01:30:19,612 --> 01:30:22,692
Speaker 2: a heel. That I mean, that was absolutely a brilliant

1859
01:30:22,732 --> 01:30:25,612
Speaker 2: move and absolutely shocking to people. But people the times

1860
01:30:25,652 --> 01:30:28,652
Speaker 2: had changed and the whole whole commania thing didn't quite

1861
01:30:29,133 --> 01:30:31,293
Speaker 2: quite work. The you know, the you know, I am

1862
01:30:31,412 --> 01:30:36,372
Speaker 2: the great, your great American, you know that that didn't work.

1863
01:30:36,452 --> 01:30:38,452
Speaker 2: So he knew he could sense it and he changed.

1864
01:30:38,612 --> 01:30:40,333
Speaker 2: But it's funny just to go back to that body

1865
01:30:40,372 --> 01:30:43,492
Speaker 2: slam of Andre the Giant. It's funny because I was

1866
01:30:43,532 --> 01:30:45,013
Speaker 2: so hyped up about it. It goes he's going to

1867
01:30:45,053 --> 01:30:46,452
Speaker 2: do it. It's never been done before. But I saw

1868
01:30:46,492 --> 01:30:48,852
Speaker 2: this documentary on it the other day and apparently Andre

1869
01:30:48,933 --> 01:30:51,652
Speaker 2: the Dry had been body slammed hundreds of times. It

1870
01:30:51,812 --> 01:30:54,492
Speaker 2: just wasn't a thing, but they hyped up that story,

1871
01:30:54,492 --> 01:30:56,293
Speaker 2: and then that story was just so important to you,

1872
01:30:56,933 --> 01:30:59,932
Speaker 2: you know, the first time giants ever been body slammed,

1873
01:31:00,013 --> 01:31:01,053
Speaker 2: It just meant so much.

1874
01:31:01,173 --> 01:31:04,692
Speaker 8: Yes, Yeah, they've been doing any house shows for years,

1875
01:31:05,053 --> 01:31:06,852
Speaker 8: apparently unrecorded shows.

1876
01:31:06,933 --> 01:31:08,652
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've been doing it for quite time.

1877
01:31:08,812 --> 01:31:10,532
Speaker 8: So that's why I said, he's back pretty it was

1878
01:31:10,572 --> 01:31:13,372
Speaker 8: pretty sure, but of course, you know he's had that fused.

1879
01:31:14,572 --> 01:31:17,053
Speaker 2: Just did you enjoy the bush Wackers? You know that

1880
01:31:17,173 --> 01:31:17,772
Speaker 2: was incredible.

1881
01:31:19,532 --> 01:31:23,053
Speaker 8: Yeah, Luke and Butch, they were fantastic when they were

1882
01:31:23,093 --> 01:31:25,612
Speaker 8: real characters. I kind of felt that they got hard

1883
01:31:25,692 --> 01:31:28,253
Speaker 8: done by in some regards because they're actually pretty good. Yeah,

1884
01:31:28,732 --> 01:31:31,412
Speaker 8: they you know, they acted their roles really well and

1885
01:31:31,452 --> 01:31:33,732
Speaker 8: they're actually pretty good and ring as well. So they're

1886
01:31:33,812 --> 01:31:35,612
Speaker 8: unlucky not to get a title. But I guess you're

1887
01:31:35,652 --> 01:31:37,412
Speaker 8: having to. You know, we're going to take it off.

1888
01:31:37,452 --> 01:31:39,652
Speaker 8: Brett Harton and Jim and the Ambel Nightheart. I don't

1889
01:31:39,652 --> 01:31:42,652
Speaker 8: think you were all demolition or you know, these sorts

1890
01:31:42,692 --> 01:31:44,333
Speaker 8: of teams that they had natural disasters.

1891
01:31:44,372 --> 01:31:45,492
Speaker 4: They had some pretty good teams.

1892
01:31:45,933 --> 01:31:48,692
Speaker 2: Well, they were full, you know, the way they came

1893
01:31:48,772 --> 01:31:50,532
Speaker 2: out and everything it was, it was it was sort

1894
01:31:50,572 --> 01:31:53,572
Speaker 2: of played played for comedy and people. People absolutely loved them,

1895
01:31:53,612 --> 01:31:55,812
Speaker 2: but they weren't kind of quite that level of sort

1896
01:31:55,853 --> 01:31:57,612
Speaker 2: of hero you know that they went the level of

1897
01:31:57,933 --> 01:32:00,012
Speaker 2: the people that that you know that they were great

1898
01:32:00,053 --> 01:32:02,333
Speaker 2: comic relief, but they were actually really good wrestlers and

1899
01:32:02,372 --> 01:32:03,772
Speaker 2: have been doing it for such a long time by

1900
01:32:03,812 --> 01:32:05,492
Speaker 2: the time they made it into the w w F.

1901
01:32:06,013 --> 01:32:08,852
Speaker 8: Hey think you it made you think, It made you

1902
01:32:08,933 --> 01:32:10,492
Speaker 8: think that you could get into the too, because that

1903
01:32:10,692 --> 01:32:11,932
Speaker 8: key we see you setly with hope.

1904
01:32:12,253 --> 01:32:15,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of suggested that we were kind of

1905
01:32:15,253 --> 01:32:19,492
Speaker 2: suggested we were a massive bushworking back area, but maybe.

1906
01:32:19,293 --> 01:32:23,253
Speaker 3: We were great characters. Scott, You're a good man. I'm

1907
01:32:23,253 --> 01:32:25,412
Speaker 3: fixed up with this conversation. A lot of people are oh, wait,

1908
01:32:25,412 --> 01:32:28,452
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty were you're a massive fan

1909
01:32:28,532 --> 01:32:31,893
Speaker 3: or are you still a massive fan of WWE WWF.

1910
01:32:32,053 --> 01:32:33,692
Speaker 3: Love to hear from you. O eight hundred eighty ten

1911
01:32:33,732 --> 01:32:35,293
Speaker 3: eighty It's twenty three parst three.

1912
01:32:39,013 --> 01:32:42,652
Speaker 1: Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1913
01:32:42,732 --> 01:32:45,093
Speaker 1: ten eighty on news Talk ZB very.

1914
01:32:45,013 --> 01:32:47,612
Speaker 3: Good afternoons you twenty five past three. We are talking

1915
01:32:47,652 --> 01:32:49,973
Speaker 3: about the sad death of Hulk Hogan. But your memories

1916
01:32:50,253 --> 01:32:54,372
Speaker 3: of Big Time Wrestling WWE WWF I eight hundred eighty

1917
01:32:54,372 --> 01:32:55,892
Speaker 3: ten eighties eighties and number to call.

1918
01:32:56,173 --> 01:32:59,253
Speaker 2: Wrestling is fixed, you muppets. Everyone knows it. It's not

1919
01:32:59,452 --> 01:33:02,612
Speaker 2: even real, you idiots? Really wrestling?

1920
01:33:03,013 --> 01:33:03,173
Speaker 7: Is this?

1921
01:33:03,412 --> 01:33:04,133
Speaker 2: It's not?

1922
01:33:04,253 --> 01:33:04,293
Speaker 9: No?

1923
01:33:05,452 --> 01:33:08,572
Speaker 2: Hang on what those storylines were fake? Get out. Oh

1924
01:33:08,652 --> 01:33:11,412
Speaker 2: my god, Like we're not open to conspiracy theories. We

1925
01:33:11,612 --> 01:33:13,652
Speaker 2: need to see more evidence that wrestling is fixed. That

1926
01:33:13,812 --> 01:33:18,173
Speaker 2: is real life. What are you talking about, Andrew, You

1927
01:33:18,293 --> 01:33:20,092
Speaker 2: went to dinner with the Hexord Jim Duggan.

1928
01:33:21,732 --> 01:33:24,772
Speaker 29: He came to an army edden up in Auckland there

1929
01:33:25,213 --> 01:33:28,133
Speaker 29: and Hexaord Jim Duggan was telling us about just what

1930
01:33:28,253 --> 01:33:30,253
Speaker 29: you were talking about before with Andre the Giant and

1931
01:33:30,293 --> 01:33:30,932
Speaker 29: Hulk Cogan.

1932
01:33:31,812 --> 01:33:35,132
Speaker 11: So apparently it was decided to sort.

1933
01:33:34,933 --> 01:33:37,492
Speaker 29: Of pass the mental on that that Andre was going

1934
01:33:37,572 --> 01:33:40,893
Speaker 29: to semi retire or whatever was doing go on the Princess.

1935
01:33:40,612 --> 01:33:42,213
Speaker 21: Bride or what ended up.

1936
01:33:44,492 --> 01:33:46,652
Speaker 29: And so yeah, the deal was that he would body

1937
01:33:46,732 --> 01:33:50,452
Speaker 29: slam him, but no one knew if Andre was going

1938
01:33:50,532 --> 01:33:53,772
Speaker 29: to do it. And apparently even during the fight, Andre

1939
01:33:54,013 --> 01:34:01,253
Speaker 29: was going and then apparently, you know, right when you

1940
01:34:01,412 --> 01:34:04,852
Speaker 29: remember it, Andre tapped them on the shoulder and we're

1941
01:34:04,893 --> 01:34:06,532
Speaker 29: doing and that's when it happened.

1942
01:34:07,692 --> 01:34:12,132
Speaker 20: Because he hadn't really could I never really had titles.

1943
01:34:12,933 --> 01:34:15,412
Speaker 2: He didn't like snakes though, Andrew, he didn't like snakes.

1944
01:34:15,412 --> 01:34:18,812
Speaker 13: Though, didn't like snakes, but he at rhyming.

1945
01:34:20,933 --> 01:34:23,452
Speaker 2: I met Hacks or Jim Duggan at the same time

1946
01:34:23,492 --> 01:34:25,732
Speaker 2: when he were over here for again. And what I

1947
01:34:25,772 --> 01:34:28,372
Speaker 2: thought was awesome about him is you know he's you

1948
01:34:28,452 --> 01:34:30,893
Speaker 2: know have these people, you have these precious musicians. It

1949
01:34:30,973 --> 01:34:33,333
Speaker 2: made me think about it. Actually, take say Kirk Cobain

1950
01:34:33,372 --> 01:34:34,893
Speaker 2: for example, and this make seem like a bit of

1951
01:34:35,293 --> 01:34:37,053
Speaker 2: a journey. I'm going to take you on here, but

1952
01:34:37,652 --> 01:34:40,052
Speaker 2: smells like Teen Spirit had only been out for eighteen

1953
01:34:40,133 --> 01:34:43,173
Speaker 2: months when Kirk Cobain refused to play it anymore because

1954
01:34:43,173 --> 01:34:45,372
Speaker 2: it was too commercially he couldn't handle doing it. But

1955
01:34:45,532 --> 01:34:49,053
Speaker 2: I met Hacksaw Jim Duggan, and I immediately asked him

1956
01:34:49,053 --> 01:34:50,732
Speaker 2: if he would, and he put the bit of four

1957
01:34:50,812 --> 01:34:54,093
Speaker 2: or two behind his head and yelled, oh, just like that.

1958
01:34:54,492 --> 01:34:57,092
Speaker 2: He didn't he didn't even question it for a second.

1959
01:34:57,293 --> 01:35:00,852
Speaker 19: You know, well he carried it into the restaurant.

1960
01:35:03,093 --> 01:35:05,812
Speaker 2: What a legend. But you know what I mean, they're not.

1961
01:35:05,933 --> 01:35:09,612
Speaker 2: He wasn't ashamed of of or thought it was cheesy

1962
01:35:09,812 --> 01:35:12,013
Speaker 2: or was. It was just so willing to do that

1963
01:35:12,173 --> 01:35:15,173
Speaker 2: bit that you would make me giddy with excitement.

1964
01:35:16,692 --> 01:35:18,572
Speaker 29: I've got a piece of four x two signed by

1965
01:35:18,652 --> 01:35:19,132
Speaker 29: him from.

1966
01:35:22,372 --> 01:35:24,173
Speaker 2: Why didn't I get a bit of four two signed

1967
01:35:24,173 --> 01:35:24,412
Speaker 2: by him?

1968
01:35:24,412 --> 01:35:24,652
Speaker 20: When I.

1969
01:35:29,652 --> 01:35:32,692
Speaker 29: The other the other great thing of wrestling in Wellington.

1970
01:35:32,812 --> 01:35:35,412
Speaker 29: I was there when the Undertaker came out, when I went,

1971
01:35:36,492 --> 01:35:38,492
Speaker 29: oh wow, yeah, I.

1972
01:35:38,532 --> 01:35:41,293
Speaker 2: Mean how long did the Undertaker? The Undertaker whistled for

1973
01:35:41,412 --> 01:35:44,932
Speaker 2: longer than than anyone, right, but he just went, went

1974
01:35:45,093 --> 01:35:47,053
Speaker 2: and went and went. He could only walk by the

1975
01:35:47,133 --> 01:35:47,372
Speaker 2: end of it.

1976
01:35:48,893 --> 01:35:50,333
Speaker 11: Well that's because he was undead.

1977
01:35:51,013 --> 01:35:54,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean the big thing with the undertake

1978
01:35:54,973 --> 01:35:56,652
Speaker 3: when I was a kid, and you'd remember it, but

1979
01:35:56,772 --> 01:35:59,253
Speaker 3: it was the Undertaker versus Mankind the Hell in a

1980
01:35:59,372 --> 01:36:03,213
Speaker 3: Cell and that was huge the lead up to that storyline.

1981
01:36:03,372 --> 01:36:06,052
Speaker 3: And then when the Undertaker grabs man Kind and drops

1982
01:36:06,093 --> 01:36:09,253
Speaker 3: him from the top of that cage down into the

1983
01:36:09,412 --> 01:36:11,612
Speaker 3: met and I think behind the scenes actually there was

1984
01:36:11,652 --> 01:36:15,173
Speaker 3: worry that mcfoley was incredibly injured. But being mankind, is

1985
01:36:15,213 --> 01:36:15,452
Speaker 3: that not?

1986
01:36:15,652 --> 01:36:17,972
Speaker 2: We carry on. We carry on well mcfoley, because I've

1987
01:36:17,973 --> 01:36:20,173
Speaker 2: read three mcfoley books. Actually he wrote a couple of

1988
01:36:20,253 --> 01:36:22,733
Speaker 2: great books in a novel, a couple of great autobiographies

1989
01:36:22,732 --> 01:36:24,652
Speaker 2: and actually a novel. He was a very smart guy.

1990
01:36:25,013 --> 01:36:28,812
Speaker 2: Mcfoley mankind. He was also Dude Love and Cactus Jack.

1991
01:36:29,253 --> 01:36:32,213
Speaker 2: But you know, he was badly injured by that, and

1992
01:36:32,293 --> 01:36:33,612
Speaker 2: he went out of the back. He didn't know he was.

1993
01:36:33,652 --> 01:36:35,892
Speaker 2: He didn't when he came back running out, running back out,

1994
01:36:37,173 --> 01:36:40,013
Speaker 2: and it was the rock when the rock threw him

1995
01:36:40,013 --> 01:36:41,612
Speaker 2: off the thing that he came running back out right,

1996
01:36:41,692 --> 01:36:44,053
Speaker 2: that's right in the cage as well. I'm pretty sure.

1997
01:36:44,133 --> 01:36:46,612
Speaker 2: But he couldn't remember coming back out. So that's the

1998
01:36:46,692 --> 01:36:49,852
Speaker 2: thing about these professional wrestlers. People think that, you know,

1999
01:36:49,933 --> 01:36:52,572
Speaker 2: they go folk, they're not real athletes. They used to

2000
01:36:52,652 --> 01:36:55,973
Speaker 2: actually be able to get insurance health insurance, where a

2001
01:36:56,013 --> 01:36:57,892
Speaker 2: lot of athletes doing what they do wouldn't be able

2002
01:36:57,893 --> 01:36:59,933
Speaker 2: to do because people just thought it was fake. But

2003
01:37:01,133 --> 01:37:05,692
Speaker 2: it wasn't. It was it's serious athleticism. And they got

2004
01:37:05,732 --> 01:37:09,013
Speaker 2: seriously injured. I mean, the blood's real. And you know,

2005
01:37:09,173 --> 01:37:11,812
Speaker 2: if you're mankind, if you're mcfoley, you were, you were

2006
01:37:11,853 --> 01:37:15,852
Speaker 2: getting messed up that extreme wrestling. It's it's full on.

2007
01:37:17,333 --> 01:37:18,172
Speaker 20: Look at his forehead.

2008
01:37:18,333 --> 01:37:21,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah yeah, Andrew, you're a good man.

2009
01:37:22,013 --> 01:37:23,492
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Great stories.

2010
01:37:23,532 --> 01:37:25,173
Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

2011
01:37:25,293 --> 01:37:27,772
Speaker 3: number to call. I love to hear your stories about

2012
01:37:28,173 --> 01:37:29,212
Speaker 3: WWE wrestling.

2013
01:37:29,492 --> 01:37:33,852
Speaker 2: This is a smart person, Blair. He's text he's texted

2014
01:37:33,893 --> 01:37:37,372
Speaker 2: in bring back Brutus, the Barber Beefgate one of your faves.

2015
01:37:37,492 --> 01:37:40,532
Speaker 2: I love Brutus, the Barber Beefgate too good. It is

2016
01:37:40,612 --> 01:37:41,812
Speaker 2: bang on up Pass three.

2017
01:37:44,253 --> 01:37:47,972
Speaker 17: You talk, said the headlines with Blue Bubble Taxis. It's

2018
01:37:48,093 --> 01:37:51,293
Speaker 17: no trouble with the Blue Bubble. Kiwis are being warned

2019
01:37:51,293 --> 01:37:55,372
Speaker 17: against traveling to Cambodia and Thailand as tensions rise at

2020
01:37:55,412 --> 01:37:58,812
Speaker 17: their border. At least fourteen people have died, most of

2021
01:37:58,893 --> 01:38:03,452
Speaker 17: them civilians. A former alpine climber and Tarctic worker and

2022
01:38:03,652 --> 01:38:07,852
Speaker 17: Erebus recovery team member is missing near Graymouth. Search and

2023
01:38:07,973 --> 01:38:10,572
Speaker 17: rescue teams are out looking for seventy five year old

2024
01:38:10,853 --> 01:38:13,732
Speaker 17: Roy Arburn. He failed to return from a walk up

2025
01:38:13,812 --> 01:38:18,333
Speaker 17: Mount Davy to mant Seoul yesterday. The Australian Prime Minister's

2026
01:38:18,652 --> 01:38:23,572
Speaker 17: throwing support behind recognizing a Palestinian state, Anthony Albanesi says

2027
01:38:23,612 --> 01:38:26,932
Speaker 17: the situation in Gaza has gone beyond the world's worst

2028
01:38:27,053 --> 01:38:31,852
Speaker 17: fears and stolen far too many innocent lives. The Climate

2029
01:38:31,973 --> 01:38:35,293
Speaker 17: Change Minister says he's carefully considering the conclusions of a

2030
01:38:35,333 --> 01:38:39,173
Speaker 17: new emission's report from the Climate Change Commission. It warns

2031
01:38:39,253 --> 01:38:43,252
Speaker 17: New Zealander's vearing off course and meeting its twenty fifty targets.

2032
01:38:44,213 --> 01:38:47,333
Speaker 17: In general, practices across the country could get a boost

2033
01:38:47,412 --> 01:38:52,253
Speaker 17: and funding under a revised model. Nine questions about the

2034
01:38:52,333 --> 01:38:54,973
Speaker 17: Epstein case that need answers. You can read more at

2035
01:38:55,093 --> 01:38:58,653
Speaker 17: ense at Herald Premium. Back to Matt Ethan, Tyler, Adams.

2036
01:39:05,933 --> 01:39:09,772
Speaker 9: Joms crashing down, it has inside.

2037
01:39:13,293 --> 01:39:15,732
Speaker 4: You take a standards on him.

2038
01:39:23,492 --> 01:39:28,532
Speaker 7: Past side.

2039
01:39:46,213 --> 01:39:50,492
Speaker 2: Brings back memories. Isn't it absolute tune huke Mania again?

2040
01:39:50,692 --> 01:39:53,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, so good, and that is what we are talking

2041
01:39:53,293 --> 01:39:55,772
Speaker 3: about right now. And there's so much buying, so many

2042
01:39:55,853 --> 01:39:57,692
Speaker 3: lovers of the golden days.

2043
01:39:57,452 --> 01:39:58,412
Speaker 26: Of w w E.

2044
01:39:59,093 --> 01:40:01,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, but do you think it's an absolute load of

2045
01:40:01,372 --> 01:40:04,812
Speaker 2: rubbish w w E or w w F as it

2046
01:40:05,093 --> 01:40:08,013
Speaker 2: was when Hulk Hogan was applying his trade in the

2047
01:40:08,093 --> 01:40:10,732
Speaker 2: gold an era of wrestling? In my opinion, do you

2048
01:40:10,812 --> 01:40:15,013
Speaker 2: think it's absolutely stupid and people like Tyler and I

2049
01:40:15,492 --> 01:40:17,852
Speaker 2: and the full lines we've got here and the thousands

2050
01:40:17,853 --> 01:40:21,972
Speaker 2: of people that are texting are absolute idiots for being

2051
01:40:22,053 --> 01:40:22,532
Speaker 2: interested in it.

2052
01:40:22,692 --> 01:40:24,572
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty If you think it

2053
01:40:24,652 --> 01:40:26,892
Speaker 3: was a load of rubbish, love to hear from you.

2054
01:40:27,372 --> 01:40:29,612
Speaker 2: Mazz's text that I thought you were ravishing Rick rude

2055
01:40:29,692 --> 01:40:33,692
Speaker 2: man man. I was never ravishing Rick mood boy, oh boy,

2056
01:40:33,772 --> 01:40:36,652
Speaker 2: great bot. Yeah, RAST had a lot of time for

2057
01:40:36,732 --> 01:40:40,093
Speaker 2: Jake Snate Roberts. Yeah yeah he was up there, Scott

2058
01:40:40,253 --> 01:40:42,173
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, hey boys.

2059
01:40:42,333 --> 01:40:44,692
Speaker 30: Yeah, now that some of those notes are amazing, and

2060
01:40:44,853 --> 01:40:48,133
Speaker 30: like Hercules with his chains around his neck, and yeah,

2061
01:40:48,133 --> 01:40:50,612
Speaker 30: there's some pretty cool, pretty cool guys. I've got three

2062
01:40:50,732 --> 01:40:53,253
Speaker 30: main memories and one you can kind of close your

2063
01:40:53,293 --> 01:40:55,012
Speaker 30: eyes and you can open up the packet of bus

2064
01:40:55,933 --> 01:40:58,772
Speaker 30: wrestling cards, you know, collected wrestling and bustle cards, but

2065
01:40:58,973 --> 01:41:02,412
Speaker 30: the wrestling cards in particular round early early or late

2066
01:41:02,452 --> 01:41:04,893
Speaker 30: eighties I think it was. And you can smell that

2067
01:41:05,013 --> 01:41:05,732
Speaker 30: pink chewing gum.

2068
01:41:06,333 --> 01:41:09,572
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I was explaining this my pads got I

2069
01:41:09,692 --> 01:41:12,732
Speaker 2: was explaining these this to my kids. How the it

2070
01:41:12,812 --> 01:41:14,852
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It was the worst bubble gum that the

2071
01:41:14,933 --> 01:41:17,333
Speaker 2: world has ever created, but it didn't really matter. It

2072
01:41:17,372 --> 01:41:19,732
Speaker 2: was this kind of dusty, weird, pink rubbish, but you're

2073
01:41:20,093 --> 01:41:22,692
Speaker 2: you lose its flavor in about one month. But it

2074
01:41:22,772 --> 01:41:24,572
Speaker 2: was about the cards. I don't even know why they

2075
01:41:24,612 --> 01:41:25,492
Speaker 2: continued with the gum.

2076
01:41:26,372 --> 01:41:28,612
Speaker 30: Yeah, it was amazing and just and just going down

2077
01:41:28,692 --> 01:41:30,452
Speaker 30: to the dairya, or going down to the book shop

2078
01:41:30,532 --> 01:41:32,532
Speaker 30: and asking your mum for a few bucks to try

2079
01:41:32,572 --> 01:41:35,173
Speaker 30: and buy these basketball cards in trading them with your maids,

2080
01:41:35,253 --> 01:41:37,652
Speaker 30: and as you say at school, trying to put sleephold on.

2081
01:41:37,893 --> 01:41:40,732
Speaker 30: And yeah, Brutus above Beefcake. Everyone loved that guy. I

2082
01:41:40,812 --> 01:41:43,173
Speaker 30: think the second memory for me was staying up late

2083
01:41:43,213 --> 01:41:46,053
Speaker 30: and watching the wrestling with my dad and watching like

2084
01:41:46,133 --> 01:41:48,213
Speaker 30: the Royal Rumble when they'd call the numbers, you know,

2085
01:41:48,372 --> 01:41:50,213
Speaker 30: like they'd call one and two and then and then

2086
01:41:50,213 --> 01:41:52,372
Speaker 30: everyone else would follow after that and they'll come into

2087
01:41:52,372 --> 01:41:52,612
Speaker 30: the ring.

2088
01:41:52,772 --> 01:41:55,692
Speaker 2: Well do you remember We're Royal Rumber nineteen ninety two

2089
01:41:55,812 --> 01:41:58,892
Speaker 2: when Rick Fleer came in third and no one had

2090
01:41:58,893 --> 01:42:01,173
Speaker 2: ever come in third in one Royal Rumble before, and

2091
01:42:02,372 --> 01:42:04,973
Speaker 2: Rick Fleer right to the air right at the end.

2092
01:42:05,013 --> 01:42:07,572
Speaker 2: No one thought he could do it. And as a kid,

2093
01:42:07,652 --> 01:42:09,452
Speaker 2: you don't know the staf but because right from the

2094
01:42:09,492 --> 01:42:12,572
Speaker 2: start you've been told that no one's effort gone on

2095
01:42:12,732 --> 01:42:16,133
Speaker 2: to win from third in the ring. But he did

2096
01:42:16,173 --> 01:42:18,093
Speaker 2: it actually, And I'll see if I'll see if I

2097
01:42:18,093 --> 01:42:19,652
Speaker 2: can play you a little bit of a bit of

2098
01:42:19,692 --> 01:42:20,133
Speaker 2: audio of.

2099
01:42:20,173 --> 01:42:20,572
Speaker 7: The end of that.

2100
01:42:21,452 --> 01:42:24,213
Speaker 30: Yeah, yeah, I think the Nature Boy wasn't he. And

2101
01:42:24,333 --> 01:42:26,492
Speaker 30: I think he took out Andre the Giant if I

2102
01:42:26,572 --> 01:42:29,053
Speaker 30: remember like within the Light, Andre John might have been

2103
01:42:29,093 --> 01:42:30,133
Speaker 30: within the last two or three.

2104
01:42:30,213 --> 01:42:32,612
Speaker 2: Well the Hulk was in there at the end.

2105
01:42:33,612 --> 01:42:36,212
Speaker 30: And yeah, I mean it was amazing.

2106
01:42:36,492 --> 01:42:37,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what great memories.

2107
01:42:38,532 --> 01:42:41,973
Speaker 30: And I think the last one for me was Miss Elizabeth.

2108
01:42:42,173 --> 01:42:46,172
Speaker 30: So she was always in between Moto Man, Randy Savage

2109
01:42:46,213 --> 01:42:51,213
Speaker 30: and Hulk Hogan. And I'm pretty sure she was married

2110
01:42:51,372 --> 01:42:56,532
Speaker 30: in real life to Randy Savitge and and then those

2111
01:42:56,572 --> 01:42:58,253
Speaker 30: two kind of always had a bit of a hatred

2112
01:42:58,333 --> 01:43:01,372
Speaker 30: and they and then they got together, they teamed up

2113
01:43:01,652 --> 01:43:04,372
Speaker 30: for a while and yeah, I just remember her and

2114
01:43:04,812 --> 01:43:07,213
Speaker 30: that sort of love triangle was it was pretty awesome

2115
01:43:07,293 --> 01:43:09,213
Speaker 30: and that was that was pretty special moments.

2116
01:43:09,253 --> 01:43:10,612
Speaker 7: Actually, yes, so good.

2117
01:43:10,652 --> 01:43:17,293
Speaker 2: Thank if you call Scott. It was unadulterated crap, but

2118
01:43:17,412 --> 01:43:20,333
Speaker 2: it was so so good entertainment that s bes totally

2119
01:43:20,333 --> 01:43:21,492
Speaker 2: invisible from Kenny.

2120
01:43:21,692 --> 01:43:22,093
Speaker 13: So good.

2121
01:43:22,612 --> 01:43:25,572
Speaker 3: One and eighteen eighty is the number to call, Graham.

2122
01:43:25,612 --> 01:43:28,333
Speaker 2: You're taking it back to the New Zealand version of things.

2123
01:43:29,692 --> 01:43:32,253
Speaker 20: Oh look, I think that's where our love affair wrestling

2124
01:43:32,372 --> 01:43:35,452
Speaker 20: came from. Tyler and Met. I remember on the Met

2125
01:43:36,133 --> 01:43:40,213
Speaker 20: it was run by Steve Ricard and Ernie Leonard.

2126
01:43:42,293 --> 01:43:43,893
Speaker 3: I'm just looking it up now because I'm not that

2127
01:43:44,053 --> 01:43:45,692
Speaker 3: familiar with On the Met. I kind of came into

2128
01:43:45,732 --> 01:43:46,532
Speaker 3: it in the w W.

2129
01:43:47,133 --> 01:43:49,812
Speaker 2: Well on the Mat was the New Zealand New Zealand.

2130
01:43:50,333 --> 01:43:52,253
Speaker 20: That was the first sort of it was back in

2131
01:43:52,333 --> 01:43:56,692
Speaker 20: the late seventies, I think, with characters such as Mark

2132
01:43:56,853 --> 01:43:58,333
Speaker 20: Lewin King.

2133
01:43:58,333 --> 01:44:03,333
Speaker 24: Curtis Curtis, a Door with a butcher, Yeah.

2134
01:44:03,652 --> 01:44:08,973
Speaker 20: Samow and Joe, all of these creation and put it

2135
01:44:09,093 --> 01:44:10,812
Speaker 20: was only in black and white back in those days.

2136
01:44:11,013 --> 01:44:14,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rock's dad competed on on the Mat, I'm

2137
01:44:14,333 --> 01:44:14,812
Speaker 2: pretty sure.

2138
01:44:16,333 --> 01:44:19,812
Speaker 20: Yeah, I honestly can't remember him as a character. I

2139
01:44:19,933 --> 01:44:22,892
Speaker 20: think he did, Rocky Johnson I think is his name.

2140
01:44:22,973 --> 01:44:26,372
Speaker 20: But but it was a Saturday night treat, you know.

2141
01:44:26,412 --> 01:44:29,372
Speaker 20: If we didn't we didn't really do the dishes before

2142
01:44:29,612 --> 01:44:35,293
Speaker 20: that on the mat. So, but that was when I

2143
01:44:35,412 --> 01:44:42,213
Speaker 20: honestly remember as a young person that wrestling became sports entertainment,

2144
01:44:42,293 --> 01:44:45,093
Speaker 20: and yeah, we thought it was the real deal. Two

2145
01:44:45,133 --> 01:44:47,652
Speaker 20: ways about that. But I think I watched a bit

2146
01:44:47,732 --> 01:44:51,293
Speaker 20: of it. Today it's a very different to me. It's

2147
01:44:51,333 --> 01:44:54,092
Speaker 20: become more entertainment than it has sports.

2148
01:44:54,732 --> 01:44:59,412
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, yeah, I mean it's it's hugely different now again

2149
01:44:59,692 --> 01:45:03,692
Speaker 2: in some of the what I guess, the people are

2150
01:45:03,812 --> 01:45:06,532
Speaker 2: loving and mentioning all these characters from from you know

2151
01:45:06,652 --> 01:45:09,652
Speaker 2: that the heyday I'm thinking of the characters were more

2152
01:45:10,333 --> 01:45:12,812
Speaker 2: they weren't cool in a way. They had that they're

2153
01:45:12,893 --> 01:45:17,053
Speaker 2: they're there, you know, their gimmick was so bold and

2154
01:45:17,652 --> 01:45:21,133
Speaker 2: big and huge, big and huge being the same thing.

2155
01:45:21,173 --> 01:45:24,892
Speaker 2: That's a tautology. But now it's like, now it's your

2156
01:45:24,973 --> 01:45:27,492
Speaker 2: you're sort of this, you're a person, you're sort of

2157
01:45:27,572 --> 01:45:30,372
Speaker 2: a you're more sort of presented like an athlete, but

2158
01:45:30,692 --> 01:45:35,772
Speaker 2: you're less less of a yeah yeah, yeah that You've

2159
01:45:35,812 --> 01:45:37,692
Speaker 2: just said it in two words, that three words. And

2160
01:45:37,812 --> 01:45:39,173
Speaker 2: I was trying to say, thank you so much for

2161
01:45:39,173 --> 01:45:40,172
Speaker 2: your cool Graham appreciate.

2162
01:45:40,293 --> 01:45:42,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, good call, Right, got a play some messages, but

2163
01:45:42,812 --> 01:45:44,492
Speaker 3: we've got so many calls to get to, oh one

2164
01:45:44,572 --> 01:45:48,093
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty what are your memories from the

2165
01:45:48,213 --> 01:45:50,612
Speaker 3: golden days of wrestling? And if you're still a watcher,

2166
01:45:50,692 --> 01:45:52,452
Speaker 3: love to hear from you. And if you think it's

2167
01:45:52,452 --> 01:45:54,053
Speaker 3: all a bit of rubbish, keen to have a chat

2168
01:45:54,093 --> 01:45:54,612
Speaker 3: with you as well.

2169
01:45:54,732 --> 01:45:58,093
Speaker 2: All these morons saying it's fake don't realize it's only

2170
01:45:58,133 --> 01:46:00,572
Speaker 2: the storylines and characters which were fake. What they do

2171
01:46:00,692 --> 01:46:02,652
Speaker 2: in the ring is real, and they get injured quite

2172
01:46:02,692 --> 01:46:04,973
Speaker 2: a lot. Most of the old wrestlers have serious operations

2173
01:46:05,053 --> 01:46:08,372
Speaker 2: on hips, shoulders and necks, and let's be honest, a

2174
01:46:08,412 --> 01:46:10,173
Speaker 2: lot of them are dead from steroid abuse as well.

2175
01:46:10,372 --> 01:46:11,932
Speaker 2: Very true. Nineteen to four.

2176
01:46:13,652 --> 01:46:17,773
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons,

2177
01:46:18,013 --> 01:46:20,572
Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk.

2178
01:46:20,652 --> 01:46:23,652
Speaker 3: Say'd be sixteen to four and we aren't talking about

2179
01:46:23,692 --> 01:46:26,572
Speaker 3: your memories of w w E or ww F on

2180
01:46:26,652 --> 01:46:28,893
Speaker 3: the sad news of the past, scene of who was

2181
01:46:28,933 --> 01:46:32,173
Speaker 3: one of the biggest superstars? Holt Hogan, Oh, eight hundred

2182
01:46:32,173 --> 01:46:34,253
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

2183
01:46:34,452 --> 01:46:34,652
Speaker 4: Well.

2184
01:46:34,772 --> 01:46:37,892
Speaker 2: Rick Fleer was on on the mat in nineteen eighty three,

2185
01:46:38,133 --> 01:46:39,692
Speaker 2: so Rick Fleer was in New Zealand, didn't know that

2186
01:46:39,853 --> 01:46:42,532
Speaker 2: cheaper is a lot of people are just texting in Jimmy,

2187
01:46:44,093 --> 01:46:48,852
Speaker 2: Jimmy Fly, Jimmy Superfly, Snooker. It's a lot of It's

2188
01:46:48,893 --> 01:46:50,812
Speaker 2: a great name, Steve, Welcome to the show.

2189
01:46:52,213 --> 01:46:53,452
Speaker 24: Yeah, goody, how are you going, guys?

2190
01:46:54,293 --> 01:46:58,052
Speaker 2: Very very good? Your thoughts on Hulk logan in general.

2191
01:46:59,492 --> 01:47:02,133
Speaker 24: Yeah, I was a huge wrestling fan. I actually joined

2192
01:47:02,173 --> 01:47:04,732
Speaker 24: the WWF Fan Club when I was a kid. I

2193
01:47:04,893 --> 01:47:06,053
Speaker 24: used to buy the magazines.

2194
01:47:06,253 --> 01:47:09,333
Speaker 31: Yeah, and then I said a fact from here to

2195
01:47:09,412 --> 01:47:11,973
Speaker 31: Titan Sports in New York and became a member of

2196
01:47:12,013 --> 01:47:15,932
Speaker 31: the fan club. And yeah, I bought a Hulk Hogan

2197
01:47:16,013 --> 01:47:20,053
Speaker 31: figurine with the wrestling belt on it, and I bought

2198
01:47:20,093 --> 01:47:22,973
Speaker 31: the cassette with all of the ring entrances and I

2199
01:47:23,572 --> 01:47:25,372
Speaker 31: still I've still got them.

2200
01:47:25,412 --> 01:47:26,612
Speaker 24: I've still got them all to the day.

2201
01:47:26,732 --> 01:47:29,333
Speaker 2: So yeah, so you would have been singing long before

2202
01:47:29,692 --> 01:47:32,492
Speaker 2: I am a real macan.

2203
01:47:32,933 --> 01:47:39,812
Speaker 24: I actually was right, every man. Yeah, and I we

2204
01:47:39,973 --> 01:47:41,852
Speaker 24: used to we used to play wrestling on the tramp

2205
01:47:41,933 --> 01:47:45,732
Speaker 24: and then I put my cassette out to set radio

2206
01:47:45,772 --> 01:47:47,492
Speaker 24: on the outside and then play the intro music so

2207
01:47:47,572 --> 01:47:49,933
Speaker 24: I could actually run down to the trampoline while the

2208
01:47:50,053 --> 01:47:52,813
Speaker 24: music was playing. And then we played wrestling on the trampoline.

2209
01:47:53,013 --> 01:47:54,572
Speaker 2: And what sort of moves were you doing there? Can

2210
01:47:54,572 --> 01:47:57,253
Speaker 2: you remember any of your signature signature moves Steve on

2211
01:47:57,333 --> 01:47:57,973
Speaker 2: the tramp.

2212
01:47:58,812 --> 01:48:00,772
Speaker 24: Just the body slam, but I could do a suplex

2213
01:48:00,853 --> 01:48:01,293
Speaker 24: as well, so.

2214
01:48:01,692 --> 01:48:05,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yeah, there was Do you remember the hysteria

2215
01:48:06,093 --> 01:48:09,253
Speaker 2: that that we were all gonna kill each other with

2216
01:48:09,412 --> 01:48:14,012
Speaker 2: the wrestling moves. I remember like everybody was wildly concerned.

2217
01:48:14,093 --> 01:48:17,492
Speaker 24: But I mean, no, I don't think anyone got really hard,

2218
01:48:17,532 --> 01:48:20,213
Speaker 24: but I can remember, I can remember everybody being hysterical

2219
01:48:20,253 --> 01:48:20,572
Speaker 24: about it.

2220
01:48:21,093 --> 01:48:23,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like the teachers at my school thought

2221
01:48:23,492 --> 01:48:26,972
Speaker 2: that you could actually put people to sleep with the sleeperhold. Yeah.

2222
01:48:29,173 --> 01:48:31,492
Speaker 2: I mean I tried pretty hard. Yeah, you know, I

2223
01:48:31,612 --> 01:48:34,253
Speaker 2: had my mate and a sleephold as long as I could,

2224
01:48:34,293 --> 01:48:35,012
Speaker 2: and he was still away.

2225
01:48:36,452 --> 01:48:36,652
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2226
01:48:36,692 --> 01:48:39,132
Speaker 24: No, No, there's no way you could, because I actually

2227
01:48:39,173 --> 01:48:41,093
Speaker 24: think we weren't either we weren't doing it right, or

2228
01:48:41,133 --> 01:48:43,812
Speaker 24: we weren't strong enough actually do that. And I think

2229
01:48:43,853 --> 01:48:45,933
Speaker 24: a lot of the time they weren't actually put to

2230
01:48:45,973 --> 01:48:46,932
Speaker 24: sleep in the ring anyway.

2231
01:48:47,013 --> 01:48:50,253
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was a real It wasn't a real thing.

2232
01:48:50,293 --> 01:48:52,572
Speaker 2: Bruce above and Beefcake also the other thing that I was,

2233
01:48:52,893 --> 01:48:54,972
Speaker 2: even as a cat. I'll be like Bruce above Beefcake,

2234
01:48:54,973 --> 01:48:56,772
Speaker 2: he's put someone to sleep. He's got his chers out

2235
01:48:56,812 --> 01:48:59,492
Speaker 2: to cut their hair, and he'd cut the smallest amount

2236
01:48:59,532 --> 01:49:03,652
Speaker 2: of hereofter, just cut a little bits of like cut

2237
01:49:03,692 --> 01:49:05,492
Speaker 2: the guy's whole ponytail off and shave it off.

2238
01:49:07,293 --> 01:49:09,852
Speaker 24: Yeah, because he had did those giant ships. Then he

2239
01:49:09,973 --> 01:49:13,492
Speaker 24: just brought out really really small little you know, snips,

2240
01:49:13,572 --> 01:49:14,652
Speaker 24: and it's like, why don't you use.

2241
01:49:14,652 --> 01:49:16,692
Speaker 2: The Yeah, you've come out with the shears and then

2242
01:49:16,732 --> 01:49:18,572
Speaker 2: you get these little snips with the cutting of the heir.

2243
01:49:18,973 --> 01:49:21,013
Speaker 2: But it was essentially I can't never understand that.

2244
01:49:21,133 --> 01:49:23,253
Speaker 24: It was like and they had great hair in the agies.

2245
01:49:23,293 --> 01:49:24,333
Speaker 26: You could have taken a lot off.

2246
01:49:24,772 --> 01:49:26,852
Speaker 2: You could have taken a lot off revishing Rick Rude,

2247
01:49:26,853 --> 01:49:27,333
Speaker 2: that's for sure.

2248
01:49:28,893 --> 01:49:29,532
Speaker 26: Yeah you could have.

2249
01:49:30,093 --> 01:49:33,053
Speaker 24: You could have yeah, yeah, but great ara of that.

2250
01:49:33,532 --> 01:49:35,053
Speaker 2: Well, it was a fantastic ear. So that was that

2251
01:49:35,213 --> 01:49:36,612
Speaker 2: was that was the best era for you. Did you

2252
01:49:36,692 --> 01:49:39,093
Speaker 2: continue to follow it, follow it on into the you.

2253
01:49:39,133 --> 01:49:42,932
Speaker 24: Know, no, no, I pretty much stuff after the sort

2254
01:49:42,933 --> 01:49:45,412
Speaker 24: of ninety two ninety three, I sort of I didn't

2255
01:49:45,412 --> 01:49:46,812
Speaker 24: follow into Stone Cold and all that.

2256
01:49:47,173 --> 01:49:50,012
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, in the Rock and then you know onto

2257
01:49:50,093 --> 01:49:52,932
Speaker 2: John Cena the Undertaker era, which for about two decades.

2258
01:49:52,973 --> 01:49:55,532
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it's.

2259
01:49:55,173 --> 01:49:56,852
Speaker 24: Yeah, so I just I was just in that in

2260
01:49:56,973 --> 01:49:59,052
Speaker 24: that sort of late nineties period.

2261
01:49:59,093 --> 01:50:01,692
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, we'll thank so much for you call Steve

2262
01:50:02,452 --> 01:50:06,213
Speaker 3: Bruce back in the seventies. Yeah, mate, you used to

2263
01:50:06,853 --> 01:50:09,012
Speaker 3: work with King Curtis State.

2264
01:50:09,452 --> 01:50:10,532
Speaker 20: Yes, yeah, yeah.

2265
01:50:10,652 --> 01:50:12,372
Speaker 23: The funny thing was we used to go to the

2266
01:50:12,532 --> 01:50:15,892
Speaker 23: y m c A On a Tuesday night and watch

2267
01:50:15,973 --> 01:50:18,652
Speaker 23: them beat the hell out of each other. And then

2268
01:50:19,053 --> 01:50:22,093
Speaker 23: the next morning there'd be Ernie Leonard and some of

2269
01:50:22,133 --> 01:50:26,173
Speaker 23: those guys sitting having breakfast together. And I could never understand.

2270
01:50:25,812 --> 01:50:28,372
Speaker 2: How they could forgive each other.

2271
01:50:29,492 --> 01:50:31,732
Speaker 23: Well, yeah, over ninth you know, they'd big blood and

2272
01:50:31,772 --> 01:50:33,892
Speaker 23: all sorts of things carrying on, and the next morning

2273
01:50:33,973 --> 01:50:36,692
Speaker 23: here they are sitting having breakfast, and King Curtis had

2274
01:50:36,732 --> 01:50:38,012
Speaker 23: his family down and everything.

2275
01:50:39,173 --> 01:50:41,973
Speaker 2: It's funny, Yeah, it's funny to think of those you know,

2276
01:50:42,093 --> 01:50:44,692
Speaker 2: the you know, the the bodies that the likes of

2277
01:50:44,772 --> 01:50:48,692
Speaker 2: King Curtis were running. They were. They were quite portly gentlemen,

2278
01:50:48,732 --> 01:50:50,253
Speaker 2: weren't they They were.

2279
01:50:50,412 --> 01:50:53,013
Speaker 23: Andy had all those scars across his forehead, but I

2280
01:50:53,173 --> 01:50:57,293
Speaker 23: believed that they were surgically put on right, they were cut. Yeah,

2281
01:50:57,452 --> 01:50:59,732
Speaker 23: so I don't really know. I was scared to ask him.

2282
01:51:00,853 --> 01:51:03,053
Speaker 2: I love that idea of just a little boy going,

2283
01:51:03,133 --> 01:51:04,973
Speaker 2: I don't get it, I don't get it. How can

2284
01:51:05,093 --> 01:51:06,293
Speaker 2: each other? How can they be free?

2285
01:51:06,333 --> 01:51:06,452
Speaker 13: Him?

2286
01:51:06,572 --> 01:51:09,492
Speaker 23: Well, yeah, yeah, I suppose I'll be fifteen or sixteen

2287
01:51:09,572 --> 01:51:12,132
Speaker 23: back then, and it was just yeah, how why.

2288
01:51:13,692 --> 01:51:18,932
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for call for your call Bruce, Julia, Julie, how's.

2289
01:51:18,732 --> 01:51:22,532
Speaker 32: It going, Juley, A good afternoon and what a good program.

2290
01:51:23,253 --> 01:51:26,452
Speaker 32: I didn't like the latter years of the wrestling, but

2291
01:51:26,692 --> 01:51:31,293
Speaker 32: the early years. My association is with Errol Shean. He

2292
01:51:32,173 --> 01:51:36,293
Speaker 32: called himself Doctor Death and he was a monster of

2293
01:51:36,412 --> 01:51:40,093
Speaker 32: a man. And he actually went to the state and

2294
01:51:40,213 --> 01:51:43,892
Speaker 32: he brought back with his pride money. He went over there,

2295
01:51:44,492 --> 01:51:47,852
Speaker 32: he brought back an international trendstar truck. He called it

2296
01:51:47,973 --> 01:51:49,652
Speaker 32: the White Lady, and it was the only one in

2297
01:51:49,772 --> 01:51:50,333
Speaker 32: the country.

2298
01:51:51,093 --> 01:51:55,772
Speaker 33: But he regularly visited us at Paraparam produce me. I've

2299
01:51:55,812 --> 01:51:57,213
Speaker 33: got a bit of a frog in my throat.

2300
01:51:58,133 --> 01:52:00,333
Speaker 2: Were you inside at Paraparam or you lived there?

2301
01:52:01,293 --> 01:52:04,572
Speaker 33: I lived in Paraperam. We had a garden center down there.

2302
01:52:04,652 --> 01:52:09,892
Speaker 33: But Errol used to pull up outside in and my father,

2303
01:52:10,572 --> 01:52:15,093
Speaker 33: my father rang excuse me one minute, oh damn heck,

2304
01:52:16,973 --> 01:52:20,973
Speaker 33: and I wasn't swearing. He dared rang us at the

2305
01:52:21,013 --> 01:52:23,412
Speaker 33: garden center and he said, there's this great big man

2306
01:52:23,492 --> 01:52:25,812
Speaker 33: has come into the kitchen and he's in the fridge

2307
01:52:26,452 --> 01:52:28,532
Speaker 33: eating the ham. And I don't think I can throw

2308
01:52:28,612 --> 01:52:34,812
Speaker 33: him out, he said, yep, yeah, so yeah, so Errol

2309
01:52:35,053 --> 01:52:38,652
Speaker 33: Errol she and doctor Death he was. He was the

2310
01:52:38,732 --> 01:52:41,173
Speaker 33: one that we followed a lot over the years.

2311
01:52:42,372 --> 01:52:44,492
Speaker 2: There was a there was another doctor Death in the

2312
01:52:44,612 --> 01:52:47,452
Speaker 2: w W. There was doctor Death Steve Williams as well

2313
01:52:47,572 --> 01:52:50,972
Speaker 2: many years later in the two in the two thousands.

2314
01:52:51,133 --> 01:52:54,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, so many texts have come through about the

2315
01:52:54,293 --> 01:52:57,933
Speaker 3: good old days of w W E. I think we

2316
01:52:58,013 --> 01:53:00,213
Speaker 3: got time for Mark just before we had to play

2317
01:53:00,253 --> 01:53:01,013
Speaker 3: some messages.

2318
01:53:01,973 --> 01:53:04,132
Speaker 2: Mark, welcome with the show. Your thoughts on on wrestling?

2319
01:53:05,213 --> 01:53:05,932
Speaker 34: Yeah, how you doing?

2320
01:53:06,213 --> 01:53:06,253
Speaker 4: So?

2321
01:53:06,612 --> 01:53:08,692
Speaker 34: I used to grow up as a young kid and

2322
01:53:08,973 --> 01:53:12,133
Speaker 34: the attitude era, so the right, Stone Cold and triple

2323
01:53:12,173 --> 01:53:14,572
Speaker 34: each and all that and and back then I probably

2324
01:53:14,612 --> 01:53:16,652
Speaker 34: thought it was all real. And then I grew up

2325
01:53:16,732 --> 01:53:18,572
Speaker 34: and got out of it. And then just a couple

2326
01:53:18,652 --> 01:53:20,253
Speaker 34: of years ago, I had a good friend I went

2327
01:53:20,293 --> 01:53:22,812
Speaker 34: to school with who said I found out he was

2328
01:53:22,853 --> 01:53:25,253
Speaker 34: still watching it now, and I thought, really, I got

2329
01:53:25,333 --> 01:53:27,893
Speaker 34: that stuff was for kids. But I got back into it,

2330
01:53:27,893 --> 01:53:29,893
Speaker 34: and I tell you, for the last four years, I

2331
01:53:30,293 --> 01:53:34,013
Speaker 34: just religiously every week. I absolutely love it. It's my

2332
01:53:34,133 --> 01:53:36,333
Speaker 34: Shortland Street. It's a soap opera, that's what it is, So.

2333
01:53:36,333 --> 01:53:38,053
Speaker 2: You're watching it on Netflix, because I always say it's

2334
01:53:38,093 --> 01:53:39,492
Speaker 2: quite high up on the chats on Netflix.

2335
01:53:40,412 --> 01:53:43,652
Speaker 34: Yeah, yeah, it's all on Netflix now. It's fantastic. Watched

2336
01:53:43,772 --> 01:53:46,213
Speaker 34: Ross smack Down every week and you know, it's just

2337
01:53:46,333 --> 01:53:48,532
Speaker 34: a it's a Coronation Street. I watch it for the

2338
01:53:48,572 --> 01:53:52,053
Speaker 34: storylines more than anything else, and it's a fantastic I

2339
01:53:52,133 --> 01:53:52,372
Speaker 34: love it.

2340
01:53:52,572 --> 01:53:55,932
Speaker 2: That's what people will never understand that we knew what's

2341
01:53:56,013 --> 01:53:58,732
Speaker 2: going on, but the storylines were so, so very very

2342
01:53:58,933 --> 01:54:01,852
Speaker 2: very good. Hey, any memories of Hulk Hogan? Would that?

2343
01:54:02,053 --> 01:54:02,932
Speaker 2: Was that for your time?

2344
01:54:04,053 --> 01:54:04,093
Speaker 9: No?

2345
01:54:04,293 --> 01:54:06,253
Speaker 34: I have some memories of hul Hogan. And you know,

2346
01:54:06,372 --> 01:54:09,572
Speaker 34: he's appeared in a number of differ organizations three year,

2347
01:54:09,612 --> 01:54:11,652
Speaker 34: a little bit in TNA, and he shot up in

2348
01:54:11,732 --> 01:54:15,012
Speaker 34: the WWE in the last few years. And the reality

2349
01:54:15,173 --> 01:54:18,612
Speaker 34: is it wouldn't be the fatter the monster that it

2350
01:54:18,692 --> 01:54:19,652
Speaker 34: has known without him.

2351
01:54:19,772 --> 01:54:20,972
Speaker 2: Absolutely don't.

2352
01:54:21,173 --> 01:54:23,253
Speaker 34: I don't really agree with some of his sort of

2353
01:54:23,372 --> 01:54:25,812
Speaker 34: personal political views of the last few years. He's been

2354
01:54:25,893 --> 01:54:29,852
Speaker 34: quite controversial, but there's no doubt that he was the first,

2355
01:54:30,372 --> 01:54:33,132
Speaker 34: the first real superstar and professional wrestling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for your call.

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Speaker 8: Mark.

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Speaker 2: What We've got thousands of thousands of teens full lines.

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Speaker 2: But unfortunately we're out of time, so you know, rip yeah,

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Speaker 2: Hulk Hogan, you know I'll be a whole hulk amaniac forever.

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Speaker 3: Nicely said, mate, what an absolute legend, right? It is

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Speaker 3: seven to two four, beg very shortly. You're listening to

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Speaker 3: Matt and Tyler the.

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

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Speaker 1: in between.

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Speaker 7: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoons used talks, they'd.

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Speaker 2: Be five two four. Yeah, well what an hour. It's pain.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the show. We've

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Speaker 2: love talking to everyone all week, loved all your texts

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Speaker 2: and phone calls. But one persons stands out in particular.

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Speaker 2: Who is our caller of the week? Tyler.

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Speaker 3: We had a great discussion about big fashion houses using

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Speaker 3: cheap labour, but we had a great call from Rachel.

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Speaker 3: She owned a garment factory here in New Zealand. We

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Speaker 3: loved her enthusiasm and passion.

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Speaker 35: We have Rachel Mills, which is the name of our brand.

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Speaker 35: We do kind of lots of Marino T shirts, kind

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Speaker 35: of just every day pieces.

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Speaker 2: How are you going?

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Speaker 35: This year in particular has probably been the hardest We've

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Speaker 35: seen a big hat and there's so many other things

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Speaker 35: that had come into play in the last two to

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Speaker 35: three years. Been a very funny past kind of twelve

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Speaker 35: months for us, But it feels like it's on its

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Speaker 35: way back up now.

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Speaker 2: Keep fighting the good fight and look, I won't compliment

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Speaker 2: what you're selling because I imagine that might put people

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Speaker 2: off because I'm not known for my fantastic fashion taste.

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Speaker 35: Oh you're not good in a pair of brief she

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Speaker 35: was lovely.

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Speaker 3: You would look good in a pair of brief seat,

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Speaker 3: So what's her business? Rachel Mills dot co dot MZ

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Speaker 3: go and support her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got great great New Zealand are doing great

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Speaker 2: things and manufacturing here in New Zealand. The full show

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Speaker 2: podcast will be out and about hour if you missed

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Speaker 2: our chats on an Assie saying Wellington is rubbish and

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Speaker 2: the life of Hulkgan actually well, an hour long celebration

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Speaker 2: of all things pro wrestling would be a bit of

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Speaker 2: description of it. Follow our podcast wherever you get your podcast.

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Speaker 2: But right now I'm gonna bodyslam Tyler, but a clitch.

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Speaker 7: What you've got to do?

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Speaker 4: Brother?

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Speaker 2: When the biggest Hams in the world come down.

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Speaker 4: On you brother.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Maddie love that. Thank you very much. Give a

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Speaker 2: toast to keeping

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