1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks at be. 3 00:00:21,293 --> 00:00:29,453 Speaker 2: Do go to the picture across the track where the 4 00:00:29,653 --> 00:00:34,093 Speaker 2: vine dot looms like a bird of doom. As shoes 5 00:00:35,373 --> 00:00:40,293 Speaker 2: and crap, worst secrets line the. 6 00:00:40,133 --> 00:00:43,533 Speaker 3: Border five That is Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds 7 00:00:44,773 --> 00:00:48,293 Speaker 3: read right hand. He played Wellington last night. Our music 8 00:00:48,293 --> 00:00:51,613 Speaker 3: reviewer Chris Schultz was there for the show and what 9 00:00:51,773 --> 00:00:54,013 Speaker 3: was a crazy week for him. He did lame Way 10 00:00:54,013 --> 00:00:57,093 Speaker 3: and Auckland Thursday. Nick Cave last night. Let's start there. 11 00:00:57,693 --> 00:01:01,413 Speaker 3: Least start with your credit card, Chriss, My gosh, no, 12 00:01:01,413 --> 00:01:04,613 Speaker 3: I'm kidding. It's yeah, a big old week and two 13 00:01:04,813 --> 00:01:06,773 Speaker 3: contrasting shows. So tell us about Cave. 14 00:01:07,533 --> 00:01:12,133 Speaker 4: Yeah, very different, very different experiences. Nick Cave was well. 15 00:01:12,173 --> 00:01:16,253 Speaker 4: First of all, who is his tailor? This man looks magnificent. 16 00:01:16,373 --> 00:01:18,773 Speaker 4: He's sixty eight years old. He wears suits at all 17 00:01:18,773 --> 00:01:20,773 Speaker 4: the shows. I actually got dressed up. I put a 18 00:01:20,813 --> 00:01:23,733 Speaker 4: shirt on for the first time at a show. I normally, 19 00:01:23,813 --> 00:01:26,013 Speaker 4: you know, concerts lame Way rock and shorts and a 20 00:01:26,013 --> 00:01:29,293 Speaker 4: T shirt. I put a shirt on and knew I 21 00:01:29,293 --> 00:01:30,893 Speaker 4: had to dress up a bit, you know. He he 22 00:01:31,373 --> 00:01:34,933 Speaker 4: turns up. He just looks incredible. He has slipped back 23 00:01:35,613 --> 00:01:39,013 Speaker 4: and then he just he just puts on this show 24 00:01:39,053 --> 00:01:41,493 Speaker 4: that that is, you know, it makes you settle in 25 00:01:41,653 --> 00:01:46,813 Speaker 4: for a journey. He played for three hours. It's pretty spectacular. 26 00:01:46,853 --> 00:01:48,813 Speaker 4: I actually slipped my shoes off. I just kind of 27 00:01:48,813 --> 00:01:51,013 Speaker 4: settled into my chair and was like, Okay, this is 28 00:01:51,093 --> 00:01:54,053 Speaker 4: going to be an experience you want to sort of 29 00:01:54,093 --> 00:01:57,053 Speaker 4: just just settle back and savor. And it really was that. 30 00:01:57,133 --> 00:02:00,613 Speaker 4: It's a twisted night into the soul. It can be 31 00:02:00,693 --> 00:02:05,373 Speaker 4: quite dark and eerie, like as red right hand sort 32 00:02:05,373 --> 00:02:07,373 Speaker 4: of shows you. There's a bit of a Gothic stump 33 00:02:07,453 --> 00:02:09,533 Speaker 4: to a lot of his stuff. It can be quite 34 00:02:09,613 --> 00:02:12,893 Speaker 4: uplifting too. He's got a ten piece band and four 35 00:02:12,933 --> 00:02:17,373 Speaker 4: gospel singers, so there's this real soaring, sweeping element. It 36 00:02:17,413 --> 00:02:21,293 Speaker 4: can be really joyous at parts, but also really quite 37 00:02:21,293 --> 00:02:23,693 Speaker 4: It can get quite dark. At one point, they sort 38 00:02:23,693 --> 00:02:26,413 Speaker 4: of flashed up the words kill me in bright red 39 00:02:26,773 --> 00:02:30,973 Speaker 4: on the back drop. So yeah, and then he's kind 40 00:02:30,973 --> 00:02:33,373 Speaker 4: of like a minister or a preacher. He gets out 41 00:02:33,453 --> 00:02:35,533 Speaker 4: in the front. He's got a ramp that goes right 42 00:02:35,573 --> 00:02:37,493 Speaker 4: along the front rows, and he gets out there and 43 00:02:37,493 --> 00:02:40,453 Speaker 4: he's kind of touching people on the heads and grabbing 44 00:02:40,453 --> 00:02:43,413 Speaker 4: their hands and kneeling on someone at one point, which 45 00:02:43,453 --> 00:02:46,453 Speaker 4: I thought was pretty cool considering the you know, the 46 00:02:46,493 --> 00:02:49,533 Speaker 4: age and stage of the crowd. One of the guys 47 00:02:49,533 --> 00:02:53,613 Speaker 4: on my left did fall asleep occasionally. That had nothing 48 00:02:53,613 --> 00:02:56,573 Speaker 4: to do with the performance. You know. Nick Davor's electric 49 00:02:56,613 --> 00:02:59,493 Speaker 4: and a master of like weaving these peaks and troughs 50 00:02:59,493 --> 00:03:03,613 Speaker 4: into a show. But yeah, it's more about that journey 51 00:03:03,653 --> 00:03:05,133 Speaker 4: I think, you know, to take it all in for 52 00:03:05,253 --> 00:03:08,133 Speaker 4: three hours, I feel pretty jaded today. It's a long 53 00:03:08,253 --> 00:03:08,893 Speaker 4: haul show. 54 00:03:09,213 --> 00:03:12,453 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a lot to be choking in, 55 00:03:12,573 --> 00:03:15,933 Speaker 3: and especially when you're coming right off the back of Laneway, 56 00:03:16,453 --> 00:03:19,373 Speaker 3: which kicked off on Thursday in Auckland. Tells about it. 57 00:03:20,373 --> 00:03:24,773 Speaker 4: Laneway was the biggest music festival in Auckland since the 58 00:03:24,853 --> 00:03:27,493 Speaker 4: last Big Day Out in twenty fourteen. There was wish 59 00:03:28,413 --> 00:03:30,893 Speaker 4: more than thirty five thousand people there. It did get 60 00:03:30,933 --> 00:03:33,173 Speaker 4: crammed a lot of the food trucks. I saw sold 61 00:03:33,213 --> 00:03:35,493 Speaker 4: out signs go up one of them at like four 62 00:03:35,453 --> 00:03:38,173 Speaker 4: point thirty pm I think, and there were massive queues. 63 00:03:38,373 --> 00:03:40,493 Speaker 4: So it was one of those things where you sort 64 00:03:40,493 --> 00:03:42,653 Speaker 4: of had to battle the elements a bit to try 65 00:03:42,693 --> 00:03:45,133 Speaker 4: and see what you wanted, and you're always making adjustments. 66 00:03:45,213 --> 00:03:46,893 Speaker 4: I got stuck in the queue for a burger for 67 00:03:46,893 --> 00:03:49,933 Speaker 4: about forty five minutes, so I just stood there watching 68 00:03:49,973 --> 00:03:53,573 Speaker 4: Benny play. Yeah, but it was you know, there there 69 00:03:53,573 --> 00:03:57,413 Speaker 4: were many great acts throughout the day, including the acclaimed 70 00:03:57,613 --> 00:04:01,093 Speaker 4: American rock act Geese, which I absolutely adored. They're going 71 00:04:01,173 --> 00:04:04,373 Speaker 4: to be big and the hypeer is real for those guys. 72 00:04:04,413 --> 00:04:08,533 Speaker 4: But it was the Chapel Rhan show Chapel just I 73 00:04:08,653 --> 00:04:11,093 Speaker 4: was sitting up the back when she started. I was 74 00:04:11,173 --> 00:04:13,653 Speaker 4: kind of resting. I was pretty racked, and as soon 75 00:04:13,693 --> 00:04:17,573 Speaker 4: as she started the magnetism that she exudes from that stage, 76 00:04:17,613 --> 00:04:20,653 Speaker 4: I just flowed it down to the field. I wanted 77 00:04:20,653 --> 00:04:23,053 Speaker 4: to be as close as possible because she's just magnetic. 78 00:04:23,093 --> 00:04:27,813 Speaker 4: She's she's so good at just just being poised and 79 00:04:27,893 --> 00:04:32,533 Speaker 4: present and just going for it. It's it's something to behold. 80 00:04:32,573 --> 00:04:35,133 Speaker 4: I'm not even sure if I can explain just how 81 00:04:35,933 --> 00:04:38,653 Speaker 4: good she really is, because you know, we've seen it overseas, 82 00:04:38,693 --> 00:04:42,173 Speaker 4: We've seen that footage of everyone running into festivals to 83 00:04:42,253 --> 00:04:45,533 Speaker 4: see her show, and until you're actually there and hearing 84 00:04:45,693 --> 00:04:48,413 Speaker 4: how good her voice is in person, and just how 85 00:04:48,653 --> 00:04:52,333 Speaker 4: poised and present and commanding she is on stage. You know, 86 00:04:52,613 --> 00:04:54,733 Speaker 4: you can't really understand it. 87 00:04:54,773 --> 00:04:57,013 Speaker 3: I think, did you do the Hot to Go Dance? 88 00:05:01,093 --> 00:05:01,533 Speaker 2: No? 89 00:05:01,533 --> 00:05:05,733 Speaker 4: No, I don't. I don't. I didn't want to. I 90 00:05:05,733 --> 00:05:06,973 Speaker 4: didn't want to get a wrong. 91 00:05:07,453 --> 00:05:09,813 Speaker 3: So just just to explain, the Hot to Go Dance 92 00:05:10,773 --> 00:05:13,733 Speaker 3: is where their audience spells out the words hot to 93 00:05:13,773 --> 00:05:15,213 Speaker 3: Go right, kind of like the Y M c. A. 94 00:05:15,333 --> 00:05:16,573 Speaker 3: But Chapel Ryan staffs. 95 00:05:17,573 --> 00:05:20,333 Speaker 4: There's normally an introduction where she sort of teaches everyone 96 00:05:20,373 --> 00:05:22,493 Speaker 4: how to do it, and she didn't do that for 97 00:05:22,533 --> 00:05:25,933 Speaker 4: the first time at Lameway because everyone sort of should 98 00:05:25,973 --> 00:05:28,813 Speaker 4: know it by now. It's me. Apparently even the guy 99 00:05:28,853 --> 00:05:31,493 Speaker 4: behind me and all blacks jersey and dark shades was 100 00:05:31,533 --> 00:05:35,293 Speaker 4: doing it. Yeah, I'm going to breaktice for next time. 101 00:05:35,333 --> 00:05:36,613 Speaker 3: I was going to say, you're going to have to. 102 00:05:36,693 --> 00:05:39,453 Speaker 3: You're going to have to. So did you you had 103 00:05:40,813 --> 00:05:43,293 Speaker 3: you had Lame Way As, you had Lame Way Thursday? 104 00:05:43,373 --> 00:05:45,373 Speaker 3: You had Nick Cave. 105 00:05:45,453 --> 00:05:45,853 Speaker 1: Last night? 106 00:05:45,893 --> 00:05:49,173 Speaker 3: Did you go to Cameron Is it Cameron Winter from Geese? 107 00:05:50,453 --> 00:05:50,693 Speaker 2: Yeah? 108 00:05:50,773 --> 00:05:53,413 Speaker 4: Yeah, he played a solo show at the Holy Trinity Cathedral. 109 00:05:53,413 --> 00:05:55,133 Speaker 4: I'm still getting my head around that night. That was 110 00:05:55,773 --> 00:05:59,333 Speaker 4: a very strange experience. He came out, he barely said 111 00:05:59,333 --> 00:06:01,573 Speaker 4: a word. He just played an hour at the piano. 112 00:06:01,573 --> 00:06:05,053 Speaker 4: It was incredibly intense. I felt quite wrung out afterwards 113 00:06:05,413 --> 00:06:07,773 Speaker 4: because he doesn't say thing. There's not a lot of 114 00:06:07,853 --> 00:06:10,333 Speaker 4: gags or chat. He's just kind of going for it, 115 00:06:10,373 --> 00:06:15,413 Speaker 4: and the songs are quite complicated and there's a lot 116 00:06:15,453 --> 00:06:18,013 Speaker 4: going on there. So yeah, maybe I need to sleep 117 00:06:18,053 --> 00:06:19,533 Speaker 4: on that one a little bit and figure it out. 118 00:06:19,653 --> 00:06:21,493 Speaker 3: My gosh, it's been a busy week for you. It 119 00:06:21,533 --> 00:06:23,533 Speaker 3: sounds so good here you going thatck Cave was like 120 00:06:23,573 --> 00:06:26,053 Speaker 3: a near religious experience. One of the best concerts I've 121 00:06:26,093 --> 00:06:27,933 Speaker 3: ever been to, and I've been to plenty. Would have 122 00:06:27,973 --> 00:06:30,173 Speaker 3: gone again on Saturday if I can get another ticket, says, 123 00:06:30,173 --> 00:06:32,893 Speaker 3: and so there you go, you and Andrew and that one together. 124 00:06:32,893 --> 00:06:34,733 Speaker 3: It sounds like you've had a cracking week. I just 125 00:06:34,733 --> 00:06:36,333 Speaker 3: hope that you can have a little bit of downtime. 126 00:06:36,373 --> 00:06:39,333 Speaker 4: Now Lord's playing on Wednesday. 127 00:06:40,573 --> 00:06:43,333 Speaker 3: Great, I mean you've got to go to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 128 00:06:43,373 --> 00:06:45,133 Speaker 3: a little bit of down How you got three or 129 00:06:45,133 --> 00:06:46,653 Speaker 3: four nights to recover from things? 130 00:06:46,733 --> 00:06:46,933 Speaker 1: Yeah? 131 00:06:46,973 --> 00:06:50,773 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thank you so much. I'm really really glad 132 00:06:50,853 --> 00:06:53,213 Speaker 3: you enjoyed them. It sounds like an amazing couple of shows, 133 00:06:53,253 --> 00:06:55,933 Speaker 3: and yeah, we really appreciate it. Chris, that's Chris Schultz. 134 00:06:56,133 --> 00:06:58,293 Speaker 3: You can hear more from him, of course on substack. 135 00:06:58,493 --> 00:07:01,933 Speaker 3: His substack is called boiler Room. We'll pick out a 136 00:07:01,933 --> 00:07:04,693 Speaker 3: good chapel, Ryan, So maybe Hot to Go so that 137 00:07:04,973 --> 00:07:06,613 Speaker 3: Chris can have a little bit of a practic to 138 00:07:06,653 --> 00:07:08,213 Speaker 3: the Hot to Go DOWNCE in a couple of minutes. 139 00:07:08,253 --> 00:07:09,253 Speaker 3: We'll close out the show with that. 140 00:07:09,973 --> 00:07:13,093 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 141 00:07:13,173 --> 00:07:16,013 Speaker 1: to News Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, or 142 00:07:16,053 --> 00:07:17,973 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.