1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: All right, Hamas's leader, Ismail Honeyer has been assassinated inside Tidan, 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: inside around themselves. He was in a run to attend 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: the President's where in ceremony on Tuesday. No one has 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: claimed responsibility as of yet, but analysts on Iranian state 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: TV immediately began blaming Israel for the attack and considering 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: the tensions in the area, this is not good. Robert Patman, 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: of course, is our international relations professor at Otago University. 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: I go to Guy. He's with us now. 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: Good evening, Robert, Good evening, Andrew. 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: Is this significant? He was the top man at Hamas. 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: It's very significant, but not perhaps in the way that 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: it first seems on the Facebook. It seems like a 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: great trial from Nen mister Neshna, who has said that 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: he would it made no secret the fact that he 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: wants to eradicate Hamas and taking out the top political 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: leader would seem to be part of that process. The 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: question is, however, does this make Israel more secure? And 18 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: that remains to be seen, because clearly Israel has taking 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 2: a considerable risk in doing this. Hanne Here was one 20 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: of the negotiators involved in the hostage negotiations in Kata 21 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: and so to take him out sends a signal perhaps 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: that Nestl who puts the fate of the hostages somewhat 23 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: below his concerns to annihilate or eradicate Hammers. 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: And I mentioned it was in Iran, you know, and 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: Israel already absolutely yeah, Israel already. They've not commented on it. 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: They never comment when an assassination is carried out by 27 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: the moss Ed intelligence agency. So this looks like pretty deep, 28 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: deep sort of stuff. 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: Well, it looks like Iran will probably feel like they 30 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: have to respond to this. It's no secret that Iran 31 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: has been backing Hammers, and this is you know, there 32 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: was the attack on the concer that in Damascus, the 33 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: Iranian concert, which killed six or seven Iranian officials, which 34 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: is a complete breach of international law. And they've now 35 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 2: assassinated the leader. The problem is, I don't think there'll 36 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: be any shortage of leaders or potential leaders to replace 37 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: Hanniah within Hamas leadership. There seems to be a presumption 38 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: that you can engineer your way to peace through assassination. 39 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: But the fact of the matter is, unless Israel provides 40 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 2: a path to political self determination for the Palestinian people, 41 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: I think such tactics are unlikely to really deliver the 42 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: security that Israel is seeking. 43 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: Robert, thank you so much. Robert Patman, the director of 44 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: International Authairs at the Ottaga University and Yeah, Worrying Times. 45 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 46 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.