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Speaker 2: On the show today, the CEO of Water New Zealand

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Speaker 2: joins us to talk about why our water infrastructure leaks

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Speaker 2: are at a rate far higher than leading European countries.

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Speaker 2: Auckland Council is considering increasing restriction on dogs. We find

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Speaker 2: out how this might affect dog walkers and also this

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Speaker 2: our All eyes are on Washington, DC today as Donald

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Speaker 2: Trumps once again sworn and as President of the United States.

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Speaker 2: going to be a very busy day for the new president,

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Speaker 2: and as usual, we head around the regions this morning,

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Speaker 2: and our international correspondent is Donald Demeyo in Australia.

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, the twenty first of January. In his final

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Speaker 2: hours as president, Joe Biden has issued multiple preemptive pardons

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Speaker 3: He is pardoning doctor Anthony Fauci, retired General Mark Milligan,

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Speaker 3: members of the House committee that investigated the January sixth

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Speaker 4: The whole thing of the bloodshed is an indescribable feeling. However,

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Speaker 4: when we returned to our homes, we found nothing but

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Speaker 2: it was decided the president's detention could be extended up

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Speaker 2: to twenty days and back here. Electronic cards spending dart

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Speaker 5: Dogs end being.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna have to talk about dogs this morning.

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Speaker 2: But I think the part of these changes that might

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Speaker 2: And they have that knowledge and experience to be dog walkers,

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Speaker 2: EVY thirteen past five. New research is proving to be

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Speaker 2: grim reading for our water infrastructure. According to the latest

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Speaker 2: briefing from the pub Like Health Communications Center, our pipes

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Speaker 2: What in New Zealand, CEO Jillian Blythe joins me, now,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Jillian.

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Speaker 2: What's your reaction to this? You surprised at all?

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Speaker 6: No, I'm not surprised. We have had decades of under investment.

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Speaker 6: We have not spent enough money on renewing our pipes,

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Speaker 6: It is. It is complex because it's not just about

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Speaker 6: We've got to relist the capability, and we've got to

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Speaker 6: improved oversight from the Commics Commission, which will now be

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Speaker 6: to join the Water Services Authority. So to matter, how

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Speaker 2: So, Julian, are these things that we should be doing

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Speaker 6: But we've also got things that are happening. Because if

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Speaker 2: Jillian, It's always lovely to talk to you, but I'm

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Jillian, always appreciate your time. That was

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Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda on early editions with one roof,

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Speaker 2: Dogs'd be good to have you with us. It's five twenty.

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Speaker 2: Auckland Councils considering new restriction for dog walkers councils. The

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Speaker 2: council is suggesting a maximum of six dogs be walked

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Speaker 2: It's also looking at making more of Auckland's fourteen regional

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Speaker 2: on the proposals is now being accepted. Cassie Jeffries is

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Speaker 2: a dog walker from the Professional Dog Walkers Association. She

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Speaker 2: What are these restrictions going to mean for professional dog walkers.

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Speaker 5: At this stage, council hasn't given us any other options,

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Speaker 5: so it'll mean exactly what it means to everyone else.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your feedback. Some of you

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Speaker 7: table they're looking at. Perhaps somewhere it's easier to get

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Speaker 7: a liquor license. Homegrown always always been a success here

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Speaker 7: in Wellington. It grew from about ten thousand and two

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Speaker 7: thousand and eight to roughly twenty three thousand. It's a

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Speaker 7: big lost businesses are gutted and there are some here

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Speaker 7: who feel like a jewel in Wellington's crown is being

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Speaker 7: given away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it as a shime. What's Wellington's weather today?

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Speaker 7: Mix a good one fine southerly's twenty five and the

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Speaker 7: high in the central city.

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Speaker 2: Thank a Max. And in Auckland, never retremind who joins

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Speaker 2: me in the studio. Good morning, good morning, go for it.

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Speaker 10: What do you got for it?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 11: I see, Oh I different.

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Speaker 2: I'm leaving you to it. I mean, how many times

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Speaker 2: have you run? Have you won Newsreader of the Year

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Speaker 2: at the radio woods?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 10: I thought you need me?

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Speaker 11: Well I saw you're thinking, oh yeah, he comes nevare

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Speaker 11: m hey neither.

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Speaker 2: There are numerous weather warnings in place as heavy rain

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Speaker 2: batters the upper North Island.

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Speaker 11: I know some people be thinking, oh God, is she

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Speaker 11: talking about the flip and weather again. If Mike Hosking

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Speaker 11: was in here, he want to said neither, leave the room,

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Speaker 11: stop talking about the weather. Weather's just nextur.

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Speaker 2: Could you sum up the story and today's weather all

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Speaker 2: in one fight?

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Speaker 12: Shall I shall?

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Speaker 11: Because you know that's the kind of person I am,

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Speaker 11: true broadcaster. So yes, the weather in Auckland, we had

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Speaker 11: a heavy rain warning, but it's the wind as well,

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Speaker 11: so you know that's happening in Northland starting apparently in

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Speaker 11: Auckland aroundabout now. So there's also the transport agencies come

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Speaker 11: into this and the usual story the warnings from motorists

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Speaker 11: drive with care in these regions. So the regions are Auckland, Corimandel,

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Speaker 11: Northless and of course the warning and place were guess

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Speaker 11: what the Auckland Harbor Bridge ten am to four pm today,

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Speaker 11: so if you're crossing the bridge just watch out for that.

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Speaker 11: And of course putting all that weather together for us today, yeah,

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Speaker 11: it's going to be creep, really heavy rain, thunderstorms, strong wins.

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Speaker 11: It's a good day for Netflix and pajamas. Thanks for

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Speaker 11: the good news, h I have twenty one, have a

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Speaker 11: good day.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Next, off for off to Australia.

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Speaker 2: Donald Demeyo is with us after.

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Speaker 1: The break international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace

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Speaker 1: of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Donad DeMeo joins me now from Australia and good to

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Speaker 2: have you with us, Donna. Finally there's Novak Djokovic. Saga

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Speaker 2: comes to a close.

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Speaker 13: Yes, it was rather a protractioned drama, but we have

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Speaker 13: had a sh statement from Novak Djokovic. I'll tell you

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Speaker 13: what that said in a moment, but I'll just give

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Speaker 13: you the background though.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 13: Tony Jones, a veteran TV journo, he pretty much upset

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Speaker 13: the TV star when he turned to the Serbian fans

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Speaker 13: during a live cross he was doing and he said

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Speaker 13: that Jokovic Djokovic was a has been and he also

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Speaker 13: said kick him out, which was rather contentious for the tenister.

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Speaker 13: He was not very happy about that, so Tony Joes

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Speaker 13: said he didn't mean to show any disrespect to Novak,

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Speaker 13: no intention to offend, but he had to apologize. Ultimately,

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Speaker 13: he did the apology on the Channel nine Today show

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Speaker 13: and the Djokovic camp was actually apologized to forty eight

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Speaker 13: hours earlier, according to Tony Jones, but he was still

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Speaker 13: not happy. He wanted this public apology, which he finally

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Speaker 13: did get. So Novak reacted pretty strongly when this first happened.

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Speaker 13: You know, he didn't do the postmatch interview with Jim Courier.

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Speaker 13: It was all very awkward. He was very, very very upset,

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Speaker 13: so Jones said, you know, he never actually meant to upset.

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Speaker 13: His humor was misinterpreted, as he put it. Well, Djokovic

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Speaker 13: now has acknowledged the public apology. Tennis Australia has issued

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Speaker 13: a statement on behalf of his camp as they say,

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Speaker 13: and he's now saying he's switching focus to the next

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Speaker 13: match and he's moving on, which I think everyone is

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Speaker 13: very thankful for. Meantime, Interestingly, the Serbian Council of Australia

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Speaker 13: still wants Tony Jones to resign and has referred the

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Speaker 13: matter to the Human Rights Commission.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what happens with that next. There's just

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Speaker 2: always a drama when Jokovic comes to town, isn't there?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Donald, good to get the good to get the

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Speaker 2: latest on it. Thank you so much. That was Donna

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Speaker 2: Demeyo there in Australia, zid be so as you know,

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Speaker 2: it is an inauguration day and about well, actually very shortly.

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Speaker 2: I think Donald Trump will take the oath of office

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Speaker 2: and become the forty seventh president of the United States.

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Speaker 2: It's the first time since eighteen ninety three year president

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Speaker 2: has been sworn in for a second, non consecutive term,

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Speaker 2: the last being Grover Cleveland. Real Clear Political Politics senior

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Speaker 2: election analyst Sean Trendy is worth me now, Good morning, Sewan.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being with.

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Speaker 12: Us, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: How will President Trump's second term be different from his first?

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Speaker 12: I think the major difference is going to be that

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Speaker 12: this is not the ragtag band of people who didn't

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Speaker 12: expect to win in twenty sixteen. He has a much

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Speaker 12: more professionalized group behind him, and they expected to win,

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Speaker 12: so there's been planning. It's I think it's going to

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Speaker 12: be the same Trump, but we're going to see a

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Speaker 12: very different, more sophisticated administration.

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Speaker 2: How does knowing how Washington work change things.

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Speaker 12: Well, I think it's more of the same. When he

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Speaker 12: came into office, he didn't really know how to navigate

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Speaker 12: the very different the various different pitfalls that can befall

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Speaker 12: a new president, and he didn't really have anyone on

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Speaker 12: his team that knew much about that. That's different this time.

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Speaker 12: So again, I think a lot of his goals are

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Speaker 12: going to be the same. He's not going to be

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Speaker 12: someone that if he didn't like the first term, you're

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Speaker 12: going to like this time around. But I also think

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Speaker 12: it's going to be more a more effective administration a

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Speaker 12: term of achieving those goals.

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Speaker 2: And he's attempting to achieve quite a lot even on

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Speaker 2: his first day.

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Speaker 4: Isn't he.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, we've already received news that he's issuing an executive

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Speaker 12: order ending what we call birthrights citizenship that if you're

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Speaker 12: born in the United States, you know, even to people

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Speaker 12: in the country illegally considered a citizen. That's flying in

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Speaker 12: the face of one hundred and thirty years as Supreme

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Speaker 12: Court precedent. But he's definitely hitting the ground running this time.

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Speaker 2: We've seen a shift in Trump's clam What do they

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Speaker 2: bring to this presidency?

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Speaker 12: Well, you know, I think I think we have, like

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Speaker 12: I said, a more serious and more experienced group of people.

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Speaker 12: You know, I think we were called back to twenty

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Speaker 12: sixteen where he needed a secretary of State and he

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Speaker 12: for some reason put the President Oil in that position.

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Speaker 12: And now you have Marco Rubio, who's a very different

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Speaker 12: member of that team. So I think, you know, it's

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Speaker 12: a different, different approach this time around.

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Speaker 2: And a bit of a different inauguration ceremony taking place

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Speaker 2: this morning as well.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's that's something that has some people kind of

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Speaker 12: scratching their heads a little bit. You know, it is

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Speaker 12: going to be cold, but it's not going to be

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Speaker 12: historically cold, but he is. He's moved it inside. There's

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Speaker 12: been some speculation that some of this is due to

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Speaker 12: security risks. You know, he did have the two assassination

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Speaker 12: attempts on him. But yeah, it's going to be a

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Speaker 12: more sedate inauguration this time around. At least we won't

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Speaker 12: be fighting about crowd sizes this time.

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Speaker 2: Well, there wasn't. There was sort of a few comments

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Speaker 2: that maybe that's what he was concerned about as to

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Speaker 2: why he moved it inside. Is that fair?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: I mean I think that that he was a little

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Speaker 12: bit concerned about the crowd sizes, that people wouldn't show

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Speaker 12: up if it was cold, that he would get negative

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Speaker 12: comparisons to Barack Obama, who you know, was really cold.

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Speaker 12: When he has inaugurated and he filled them all. Look,

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Speaker 12: I prefer this to what we had in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 12: when the first thing he did was send his press

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Speaker 12: secretary out to lie about the crowd sizes. You know.

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Speaker 12: But at the end of the day, as long as

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Speaker 12: his hands on the book and he recites the oath

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Speaker 12: of office, he is president.

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Speaker 2: Sean, are we seeing more celebration around this inauguration? I

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Speaker 2: see that an idol so ago, you know, who's who

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Speaker 2: of Silicon Valley was in Washington, DC celebrating at a party.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: You know, there's been a little bit of a vibe shift,

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Speaker 12: as we say here in the states of our surrounding

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Speaker 12: the Silicon Valley. They seem to have moved rightward over

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Speaker 12: the course of the past decade. I also think, you know,

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Speaker 12: he won the most votes this time around, unlike twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 12: and so I think there's just a general sense of

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Speaker 12: legitimacy about this presidency that there wasn't in twenty sixteen

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Speaker 12: and is showing up in who supports it and how

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Speaker 12: they support it.

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Speaker 2: Sean Trendy, thank you so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 12: Thank you say a.

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Speaker 6: Hit of the curve earlyer.

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Speaker 1: This is with one roof make your property search simple?

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Speaker 1: You stalk?

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Speaker 5: Did be?

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Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge is up next with the Mike Hosking breakfast,

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Speaker 2: and he joins me, Now, good morning.

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Speaker 10: Good morning. Most importantly about the inauguration, doesn't Milania look

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Speaker 10: fabulous willing? It's being described as a common sandy go hat.

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Speaker 2: Of course, a few wishows issues though. When the president

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Speaker 2: leaked walked into the road under he went up to

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Speaker 2: give her a kiss, but the brim was so wide

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Speaker 2: he couldn't get He was about three inches away from

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Speaker 2: the cheeks. It was a bit awkward. It do I

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Speaker 2: keep going or not?

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Speaker 10: It's a massive thing. It is a big roadblock. I

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Speaker 10: told you what's really interesting that's happened just before this

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Speaker 10: sparing and ceremony that's underway right now. I went ahead.

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Speaker 10: Biden has pardoned you know, Fauci, the COVID doctor, and

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Speaker 10: we know about that. Just in the last few minutes.

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Speaker 10: He has also pardoned, preemptively pardoned his brothers James and Frank,

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Speaker 10: and his sister Valerie and their spouses. Isn't this incredible

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Speaker 10: as sitting us president literally in the in the last

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Speaker 10: gasps of his presidency, is having to go out there

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Speaker 10: and say it.

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Speaker 2: He will be doing that to protect you say that

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Speaker 2: my family suffer unnecessarily just because I've been the president.

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Speaker 2: Therefore I'm going to protect them, which is what he

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Speaker 2: said about Hunter. But the problem with that was he'd

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Speaker 2: always I didn't care that he pardoned the guy, but

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Speaker 2: he'd promised he wouldn't we who relies on his integrity,

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Speaker 2: But also the.

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Speaker 10: Uproar about him pardoning his son Hunter to then in

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Speaker 10: the dying minutes, go and do your brothers and your

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Speaker 10: sisters And it's.

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Speaker 2: A big it's a big raising that little thing or

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get this sorted.

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Speaker 10: And he's at an age in a stage where he's going,

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Speaker 10: you know what, I'm on my way out both of

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Speaker 10: politics and soon gently yeah, Jemmie, right, but you know

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Speaker 10: and I want to make sure that they're protected. The

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Speaker 10: thing is, though, are you not in preemptively pardoning somebody

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Speaker 10: sort of implying that they might be guilty.

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Speaker 2: Of So my first question she was going to be,

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Speaker 2: what of the brothers and the sisters meet up to you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay? What else is on the show's day?

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Speaker 10: So Robins are going to go to Washington, D C.

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Speaker 10: For the latest on the inauguration. We've got Prime Minister tuesdays,

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Speaker 10: so lots to talk to him about not only the reshuffle,

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Speaker 10: but also we're going to ask about growth. This is

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Speaker 10: the big agenda for twenty twenty five. What exactly is

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Speaker 10: Nikola Willis's remit here? Can she just do whatever she wants?

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Speaker 10: We'll ask him here.

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Speaker 2: It's a lovely they've got a lovely narrative out there,

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Speaker 2: but actually how they're going to do it would be

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Speaker 2: great to find out. Ryan Bridge is with you next

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Speaker 2: here on the Mike Hosking Breakfast. Have a great day.

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Speaker 2: I'll be back tomorrow at five Circay

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Speaker 1: Music For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen

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