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Speaker 1: Barry Sober, Senior political correspondence with US Barry, good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Just the outset that you'll all remember it was Trump

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Speaker 2: that was creating the expectation of a ceasefire at the

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Speaker 2: first meeting, and he said that if Putin didn't agree

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Speaker 2: to it, then there would be severe sanctions against Russia.

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Speaker 2: So there was nobody other than Trump that was creating.

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Speaker 1: The Barry, Trump's an idiot just because he's the rest

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Speaker 1: of us Stones.

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Speaker 2: Would also that's great. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Did you did you honestly need me to admit that

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Speaker 1: Trump's an idiot?

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Speaker 2: No, that's great.

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Speaker 1: At least we're on the same page. I'm still not

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Speaker 1: deranged like you. Listen, the Reserve Bank thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Well, interesting, isn't it that you go back over the

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Speaker 2: OCR when our old mate Adrian All was there. I mean,

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Speaker 2: for since May twenty three, the OCR is at five

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Speaker 2: point five percent. It only moved in August last year

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Speaker 2: five point two five percent, and now it's down to

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Speaker 2: what three percent? So the move is in the right

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Speaker 2: direction at long last, that the screws are coming off

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Speaker 2: the economy. And if you look at the comments as

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Speaker 2: I watched the news conference of the Reserve Bank, today,

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Speaker 2: and you look at the comments the Reserve banks are

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Speaker 2: saying that they expect growth from the end of this year,

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Speaker 2: and they say the worst is over. Better times are

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Speaker 2: on the way. We can all only hope for that,

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Speaker 2: and hopefully a bit of an enthusiastic injection is put

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Speaker 2: into the economy as a result of it. The acting Governor,

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Speaker 2: Christian Hirk hawks me understand that you're going to add

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Speaker 2: them on, he said, the American tariff war, which is

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Speaker 2: pretty obvious through a spanner in the works, but he

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Speaker 2: says he believes it is wearing off to some extent.

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Speaker 3: There hasn't been the escalation that there could have been

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Speaker 3: in some of those measures of global policy. Uncertainty have

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Speaker 3: actually been falling more recently. But despite that, been this

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Speaker 3: cautiousness and businesses and consumers, and it has lingered longer

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Speaker 3: than we had anticipated. And so that's some of the

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Speaker 3: thinking around whether those sectors have just become too cautious

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Speaker 3: and need a bit more of a lift than we

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Speaker 3: had expected.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's hope today's movement, with the expectation of

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Speaker 2: two more movements in the short term, we'll see some

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Speaker 2: injection back into the economy and US doing a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. Winston Peters wanting to appear before the COVID

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Speaker 1: inquiry is quite an interesting move because he hasn't been called,

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Speaker 1: is he.

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Speaker 2: No, he hasn't been called. And he tweeted today that look,

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Speaker 2: he's writing to the COVID Royal Commission saying that he'll

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Speaker 2: put his name up. He's happy to appear in public

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Speaker 2: for transparency reasons. And I do remember hither that the

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Speaker 2: first four tier alert level lockdown, it was announced on

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Speaker 2: the twenty first of March twenty twenty. Don't think that's

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Speaker 2: the of the election that Winston was voted out of office,

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Speaker 2: so he didn't have a long time at the desk

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Speaker 2: before he lost his role in Parliament. But nevertheless, I

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Speaker 2: remember it was a Saturday, the twenty first March, and

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Speaker 2: I remember ringing Winston saying, what the hell is going

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Speaker 2: on here? And it was the old go early, go

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Speaker 2: fast or go fast, go early.

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Speaker 1: Go early, go hard, go hard.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, And you know that Winston, it was beyond him

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Speaker 2: at the time. He said, well, for God's sake, you know,

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Speaker 2: we should take a step back. And I remember then

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Speaker 2: he was questioning the validity of doing what the government

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Speaker 2: was doing so, I think he will have a fair

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Speaker 2: part to play in this inquiry, even though his experience

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Speaker 2: of it in terms of decision making going further on

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Speaker 2: is very limited.

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Speaker 1: It is very limited. Hey, really quickly, what did you

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Speaker 1: make of Helen Clark's comments today?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, we hear a lot of a lot

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Speaker 2: of this, don't we that women suffer greatly in politics

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Speaker 2: through social media? And I'm sure they do, but I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: if you're in the public.

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Speaker 1: Eye, harden up.

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Speaker 2: Everybody suffers. I mean, I've gone off Twitter because I'm

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Speaker 2: tired of the abuse that I was getting day out

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Speaker 2: to day out to day and violent abuse. It wasn't tired,

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Speaker 2: just mild. And Helen Clark talks about the keyboard warriors,

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Speaker 2: and that's what they are. They're anonymous behind their little

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Speaker 2: keyboards and can say what they like and get to

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Speaker 2: whoever they like. I think the best thing to do

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Speaker 2: if you don't like it, don't read it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but just under you know, she loved, which is

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Speaker 1: what the comments were, actually loves the old social media,

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Speaker 1: so she'll be reading it all. Hey, thank you, very

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Speaker 1: appreciate it, very so for senior political correspondent.

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