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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be three to twelve on News Talks, he'd be

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Speaker 2: Catherine Rains is here with us this morning. She is,

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Speaker 2: of course, our book reviewer, brings us a couple of

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Speaker 2: great reads every weekend. Good morning, Catherine, Morning Jack. So

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Speaker 2: we've talked about Greek Hewitz several times before. His Orphan

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Speaker 2: X series is fantastic, and there is a new Orphan

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Speaker 2: X edition anti hero.

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Speaker 3: So yes, Evan Smoke is back and he is known

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Speaker 3: as Orphan X and sometimes they Nowhere Man, and his

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Speaker 3: background is that he was an assassin for a government

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Speaker 3: organization that he's now left. And this book opens with

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Speaker 3: a celebration for life for his old friend Tommy, who

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Speaker 3: was the one that taught him everything in the Orphan

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Speaker 3: X program, and then following this, he gets a phone

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Speaker 3: call and he needs to get to New York as

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Speaker 3: soon as he can and head into the Hamptons because

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Speaker 3: one of the most richest guys in the world, a

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Speaker 3: guy called Luke Devnon, is spiraling out of control and

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Speaker 3: he happens to bring along a team oran from the assassination,

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Speaker 3: a girl called Josephine but actually no one as Joey

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Speaker 3: that trained him, and you know, he's kind of informally adopted,

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Speaker 3: and he needs her text girls alongside him. But it's

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Speaker 3: the first time that she's been out in the field,

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Speaker 3: and together they hear about this woman who's been kidnapped

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Speaker 3: from a New New York subway car. And this woman, Anaka,

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Speaker 3: suffers from the stabilitating illness which causes her to have

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Speaker 3: seizures up to six times a day, and she had

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Speaker 3: this kind of you know, she has eliminating lanyard that

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Speaker 3: she wears around her neck telling people what to do

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Speaker 3: when she has a seizure. But at this point in time,

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Speaker 3: so these strangers take complete advantage of her and end

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Speaker 3: up kidnapping her. And it's this rollercoaster of the book,

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Speaker 3: and you see the side of humanity's best and worst

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Speaker 3: in the characters that struggle to grapple with the consequences

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Speaker 3: of their choices, and even Smoke has kind of led

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Speaker 3: in a different direction from how he would normally deal

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Speaker 3: with things, and it's just yeah, so really it's you know,

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Speaker 3: it's the Orphanic series, but it's a bit of a

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Speaker 3: different direction for interesting.

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Speaker 2: Reg I think I've peased him before. I haven't I

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Speaker 2: because even just feels a bit on the nose. But

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Speaker 2: don't you think, just think, yes it does. Yeah anytimes.

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Speaker 2: Smoke is the surname of your protagonist and he's a

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Speaker 2: former assassin gef to sort of you know. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: that does sound like a new direction, so that could

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Speaker 2: be really good. So Antihero is the name of Greek

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Speaker 2: Kowitz's latest It's an orphan ex novel. Next up, The

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Speaker 2: Dead Speak by Thomas Coyle.

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Speaker 3: So this is a really interesting memoir. And Thomas Hoyle

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Speaker 3: is in forensics and in this he talks about the

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Speaker 3: crime scenes he's seen in the disaster sciences. He's been in,

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Speaker 3: you know, in areas you know most of us would

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Speaker 3: never see or experience. And over his time he's been

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Speaker 3: to more than twenty thousand crime scenes. He worked for

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Speaker 3: Scotland Yard, he's worked for the Fraud Squad and the

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Speaker 3: Anti Terrorist unit, and he's been a fingerprint expert in

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Speaker 3: the New Zealand place. And of course he has stories

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Speaker 3: to tell. And his career bank began, you know, back

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Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty six and he was working night shifts

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Speaker 3: at a bakery in the UK and he heard a

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Speaker 3: commotion outside, and as he heads outside to investigate, he

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Speaker 3: discovers that his best friend has been seriously injured and

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Speaker 3: people are trying to save him at the scene, and

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Speaker 3: sadly he passes away and what you know, his grief,

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Speaker 3: what it starts to dissipate, and that anger and frustration

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Speaker 3: arrives and he decides to become a police officer. And

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Speaker 3: he applies at Scotland Yard to be a fingerprint expert

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Speaker 3: and he gets the job and he's a little surprised

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Speaker 3: by that, and in two thousand and then talks a

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Speaker 3: lot about what he does there, and then in two

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Speaker 3: thousand and three he moves to New Zealand and becomes

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Speaker 3: a disaster victim identification expert as a civilian, and then

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Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen he resigns, but he talks about lots

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Speaker 3: of things that are really well known to us as

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Speaker 3: New Zealanders. You know, on the twenty sixth of December

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Speaker 3: two thousand and four when the tsunamis and earthquakes hit

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Speaker 3: and you know, two hundred and seventy five thousand people

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Speaker 3: lost their lives, and you know, communities wiped out around

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Speaker 3: the Indian Ocean. And then he travels to Thailand as

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Speaker 3: a member of the expert link to an identification team,

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Speaker 3: and he talks about that and how devastating that must

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Speaker 3: have been and what they saw and you know, trying

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Speaker 3: to identify thousands of people, and then he sort of

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Speaker 3: talks about it as well. He was responsible for identifying

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Speaker 3: the victims of the christ Church earthquake in twenty eleven

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Speaker 3: and just how different that was for him because he

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Speaker 3: didn't know if he would know someone and I'd kind

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Speaker 3: of never thought about it in that way, if you know,

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Speaker 3: if you're working in New Zealand and how small we are,

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Speaker 3: And it's really one of the most poignant things he

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Speaker 3: writes about. But it's a really fascinating insight into that

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Speaker 3: world of forensic and how things really work. And as

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Speaker 3: he says, you know, it's not really like an episode

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Speaker 3: of CSI. Things take a lot longer, and it's just

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Speaker 3: fascinating because it's a world most of us never see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how intriguing and great to have that kind of

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Speaker 2: the first hand recollection. So that sounds really good. That's

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Speaker 2: called The Dead Speak. It's by Thomas Coyle. Catherine's first

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Speaker 2: book is Anti hero an orphan ex novel by Greg Hurwitz,

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Speaker 2: and we'll have all the details for both of those

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Speaker 2: books up at newstalksheb dot co dot mz.

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