1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Listen. They're not brought broadcasting this thing on Instagram, so 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: it's just just ninety people on Facebook Live. And also 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: we have to talk about the Tom Phillips update today. 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Right now it's thirteen away from five, Barry, so for 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: senior political correspondence with us Barry, Good afternoon, Heather. Did 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: you make of what happened in parliament? 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: Well before that Roali White Tea on the Facebook feed. 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 2: I think it is announcing their review of the party. 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: The other thing is or reset sorry of the party. 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: I think it was reset in parliament this afternoon. Actually, 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: but he said, and I quote, since they've been in parliament, 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 2: they've encountered the vileless humans to ever walk the Spenawa. 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: So that's the flavor of the of the reset of 14 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: the Maldi Party. But look, there was bedlam in Parliament 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: again today, no doubt about it. The former broadcast Renny 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: Kayper she was giving her maiden speech, or about two 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: more than half of it was in Maldy. It went 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: on for more than twenty minutes, when the rules specifically 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: say that a maiden speech should be known more than 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes. So the bell was ringing for five minutes 21 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: last five minutes of his speech, and I've got to 22 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: say after it, she came to the floor when they 23 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: burst into a waiata in the public galleries, and that 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: was by permission of the speaker. Clearly she came to 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: the barefooted, to the center of the debating chamber and 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: sort of led the waata. And at the end of it, 27 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: and you can see it quite clearly, she went into 28 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: hukka mode. So even though they may have had an agreement, 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: the party knew full well. 30 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: I think it was orchestrated. 31 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: I've totally orchestrated. And you only have to look at 32 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: the video to see that. Here's the end of the 33 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: waata and the Speaker's response to it. 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,279 Speaker 3: Not that the guarantee was that would not be taking place. 35 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 3: The House is suspended. 36 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: Nobody took any notice at all. Quite disrespectful, Oh, totally disrespectful. 37 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like it in Parliament, honestly in 38 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: more than forty years. The House, as you say, was 39 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: suspended for more than half an hour. When it resumed, 40 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: the Speaker talked about that agreement. 41 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 4: No one member is more or less elected than anyone else, 42 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 4: and the time that the House allocates for anyone to 43 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 4: speak in here is by agreement. And when we have 44 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 4: people coming into the house who decide they are not 45 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 4: going to abide by their agreements, then they put themselves 46 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 4: in a contemptuous position. The behavior in the gallery was 47 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 4: contemptuous and as my intention over the next couple of 48 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 4: days to find out whether or not that was by 49 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 4: agreement with any party inside this house, because people go 50 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 4: on to Mariah all over the country and respect the protocols. 51 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: We have a protocol here. It is our teacuner. That 52 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: Teakner is based, as I said before, on agreement. 53 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: It's true, though, how do you rate his chances though, 54 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: that they're going to actually face up to him a 55 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: year we orchestra Well, no. 56 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 2: You only have to look at the videos I've done 57 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: several times now to see that Ireny Carpara knew, kuiper 58 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: knew exactly what was expected following the waiata because she 59 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: went into hukka mode, and if they look at that 60 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: closely enough was orchestrated from the floor of the house. 61 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: What's hukka mode, Well, it's you know, she's pulling the pookanna, pulling. 62 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: The poocanna and waving her arms like the hakka are 63 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: you so? She will certainly doing it. So here's what 64 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: the new MP Copra had to say. 65 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 5: Greetings everyone, I'm not going to stand here and tell 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 5: you about the impacts of colonization on far No hapu 67 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 5: Ewe and even on me. That story is well documented. 68 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 5: One only has to turn to the handsard to see 69 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 5: in plain black and white how this government and past 70 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 5: governments have perceived our people. Instead, I will speak of resilience, 71 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 5: the resilience of Mari, the resilience that has carried us 72 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 5: through generations of struggle and survivals. We are the culmination 73 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 5: of dreams, of purpose, of hard work and intention. We 74 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 5: are here by design. I've broken barriers, but now I 75 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 5: choose to break cycles. I've covered stories and now I 76 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 5: choose to change them. 77 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well there you go. 78 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: Okay, listen. The Michael Forbes investigation has stated the bleedingly obvious, 79 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: hasn't it that the Prime Minister's office should have been told? 80 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: Well, just to refresh your listener's memory, Michael Forbes was 81 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: the press secretary in Chris Luckson's offers who was essentially 82 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: recording videos of sex workers in Wellington, and the police 83 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: had investigated it. They decided not to charge Michael Forbes, 84 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: so it was kept within the police precincts and the 85 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: office of the Prime Minister wasn't alerted. Now the Department 86 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: of Internal Affairs, they've done an investigation into it. They 87 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: say that there should be no surprises and that's absolutely right. 88 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you can't have a press secretary even if 89 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: the police decide not to charge. 90 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: Well, why, I mean there already is no surprises rule. Well, 91 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: that there should be a no surprises rule. It's that Andy. Andy, 92 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: Andy did know well, no, but. 93 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: It wasn't Andy that was running. Basically, Richard Chambers came 94 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: into the job of November last year, so it wasn't 95 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: that this year. Was it last year? 96 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: Well, I think Andy was in charge when when the 97 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: hookers took Michael's phone of a night or however long 98 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: Andy was in charge. Anyway, the cops should have told 99 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: the Prime Minister's. 100 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I'd want to know if I was the 101 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: Prime Minister and somebody in my office was filming hookers, 102 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: I'd say, look, I have to know. 103 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: This lord, honestly, Barry, thanks very much, appreciate it. 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