Speaker 1: Live from the Export Beer Gardens Studios. This is the
Speaker 1: Agenda Podcast for Monday, the thirtieth of September.
Speaker 2: The Agenda Podcast, the home of Sporting Nonsense and clap Trap,
Speaker 2: brought to you my next sport a culture.
Speaker 3: Great to be back.
Speaker 4: Great to be back, Matt, Yeah, like, great to have
Speaker 4: you back.
Speaker 5: Hey, I've actually, like, I'm written a bit of an
Speaker 5: article about your trop away.
Speaker 3: Have you? If I could share something.
Speaker 1: That's because you you weren't you unfortunately couldn't make it.
Speaker 3: I could have made it. I was available, I was
Speaker 3: very available. Okay, could have made it. Okay? Is this okay? Okay?
Speaker 3: I've written article, have you?
Speaker 5: I've written article on my substack Man Heath got substackk
Speaker 5: dot com.
Speaker 3: Yep. The fear of missing out.
Speaker 5: As we speak, my social media feed is lit up
Speaker 5: with shots of my best buddies from the Alternative Commentary
Speaker 5: Collective attending Octoberfest in Munich, Germany. It's clearly the greatest
Speaker 5: time anyone has ever had, or ever well have, and
Speaker 5: I'm missing out.
Speaker 3: I feel upset. Oh okay, I feel abandoned and a justin.
Speaker 5: Fairworld, I would have been over there with them, after all,
Speaker 5: it was widely advertised that I would be the betrayal
Speaker 5: again in April twenty twenty four, and I received a
Speaker 5: calendar invite from close friend gla okay, requiring my okay
Speaker 5: next thing. And I was on a German being made outfit,
Speaker 5: a dingdrel, a dingdrel. So it was nice if you want,
Speaker 5: if you want to have read the rest of that
Speaker 5: full score Settler, it's at man he got substack dot com.
Speaker 3: Shit that does sound it's like a school seat.
Speaker 5: It was a seventeen hundred word I do say it
Speaker 5: like you the most important thing is when you're left behind,
Speaker 5: is to keep your dignity and not indulge in a
Speaker 5: wine fest. Yeah, and I think the seventeen hundred word
Speaker 5: winch fest is.
Speaker 1: So that's like saying don't take offense and then unloading.
Speaker 1: You've just reversed that and you've unloaded and then at
Speaker 1: the end gone like I'm not winging. Yeah, I'm fine,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you fine. Anyway, it looked like a good time.
Speaker 4: Yes, some people aren't even back yet, Mania Stewart.
Speaker 5: As I'm looking into Joe Joy's eyes, I'm not sure
Speaker 5: if he's back. Nope, his body's back. But this this
Speaker 5: sort of darkness behind those eyes. It's like a shell
Speaker 5: of man.
Speaker 1: He left half his soul in Amsterdam and left the
Speaker 1: rest of it in Octoberfest in Munich.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, so that's why.
Speaker 1: And poor Joe got he was an economy class in
Speaker 1: his seat didn't recline.
Speaker 5: Oh so he understands what portrayal is like as well.
Speaker 5: So you you, you were abandoned as well. You're abandoned
Speaker 5: by g Lane and Jeremy was going up to premium economy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they enjoyed a nice premium economy flight home seventeen
Speaker 1: hours where I sat an economy and my seat didn't recline. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: the team's falling apart. We just need to get things
Speaker 1: back on track here. But we we are back.
Speaker 3: What a great time.
Speaker 1: We had Nick and Andy, we had Callum and Phil,
Speaker 1: we had Brandon and Vince, and we had the lovely Mal.
Speaker 1: It was Tom and James as well, so we had
Speaker 1: a good crew. Yeah over there, it was It was
Speaker 1: a good time.
Speaker 3: It looked fun, Yeah, it was. It was great fun.
Speaker 3: Have you matured it all since the last time we
Speaker 3: went to Amsterdam?
Speaker 5: And I was just wondering because last time the behavior
Speaker 5: in Ampsdam was terrible.
Speaker 4: I think it was worse. Really, I think it years
Speaker 4: and no growth. Regression.
Speaker 1: I seriously think it was regression because I can't three
Speaker 1: days was enough I needed to get out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like, that's like Las Vegas. Yeah, you
Speaker 5: only need two days in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean look, for example, we went to the Heinekenfactory. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and at the Heinekenfectory.
Speaker 4: A great time.
Speaker 3: At the Heinekenfectory. The dB people looked after.
Speaker 5: Us, well, last time we were booked in to go
Speaker 5: to the he infect When we're saying and Lee, how
Speaker 5: it was.
Speaker 3: Like, put it this way, people don't want to see
Speaker 3: the red light district. So we drove right past all
Speaker 3: our pre organized things. We didn't do the red light.
Speaker 4: We didn't even go there, didn't even go the O
Speaker 4: this time.
Speaker 3: What Yeah, rubbish. I felt like we've done it. Jerry
Speaker 3: told me that you went. You went there and you
Speaker 3: walked around the same.
Speaker 1: Hundred Yeah we did, yeah that night, but we didn't Yeah. Right,
Speaker 1: but the Heinekenfectory you didn't go.
Speaker 3: Well, not in the day. Very different the art. There's
Speaker 3: one stage at the Heinekenfactory.
Speaker 1: It's a great tour like it's it is a multi
Speaker 1: media sensory overload, and at the start they do warn
Speaker 1: you if you are on any psychedelic substances that are
Speaker 1: common and just.
Speaker 3: Let us know because you may freak out.
Speaker 1: I love that one of the biggest tourist attractions in Amsterdam,
Speaker 1: and that's one of the warnings they give you. If
Speaker 1: you're pregnant, suffer epilepsy, or you're tripping out, let us know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like if you're tripping out.
Speaker 5: And New Zealand be like any intoxicated people will not
Speaker 5: be tolerated in the Heineken tour.
Speaker 1: It's like if your waste, just tell us, yeah, just
Speaker 1: let us know, just look and look out for you.
Speaker 1: But it's the biggest drink beer hype tour. You get
Speaker 1: to into the tour and you're like, fuck, you want
Speaker 1: to drink a beer living in the morning. Then you
Speaker 1: get a beer and there's one section you can personalize
Speaker 1: your own bottle of Heineken. And they're all coming past
Speaker 1: you on a conveyor belt and you're on a computer
Speaker 1: screen on touch screen.
Speaker 4: And we did Lovely Trenty.
Speaker 1: We did a minute piece and the sixy Camel all
Speaker 1: their own little personalized bottle.
Speaker 3: We may have chucked a nose kai just for a
Speaker 3: laugh of the fourth one.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, so we chuck that in as well, but
Speaker 1: we just wanted to test the algorithm to see if
Speaker 1: you know, you get a other stuff. Anyway, Mania is
Speaker 1: on the he's on the touchscreen next to us, and
Speaker 1: I told the story about my son's lineout call sixty
Speaker 1: nine dog shit and he got told off in a
Speaker 1: tournament and made to do it again and he said
Speaker 1: sixty nine dog poo. And for some reason that story
Speaker 1: really resonated with Minaya, and he was on the computer
Speaker 1: and his name he put on was sixty nine dog shit,
Speaker 1: and it went through the system and he was like ah,
Speaker 1: because he was expecting it to pick up swear words
Speaker 1: and saying, you can't do it. Anyway, into the tour,
Speaker 1: very as you're leaving the Heine Confectory, you line up
Speaker 1: and you get your personalized bottles, and we're sitting there,
Speaker 1: we're getting our bottles, and he goes a yeah, here's
Speaker 1: my here's my token, and the lady's like, m I'm sorry, sir,
Speaker 1: And so he thought he was going to just had
Speaker 1: to talk to a computer, but a lovely little Dutch lady.
Speaker 1: She's like, sir, I can't, we can't put sixty nine
Speaker 1: dog shit on a bottom. And we were rolling around
Speaker 1: and he was like he kind of went but read
Speaker 1: and he was like, ah, sixty nine dog pooh, And
Speaker 1: her face was like no.
Speaker 3: So it worked for your son, but not for what.
Speaker 3: But he lives standing there. He goes, is there anything
Speaker 3: else you want to put on it? And we'll get
Speaker 3: it quickly made so not as as not as girlfriends now.
Speaker 1: The indie panic then got thanks mate, and a cruel
Speaker 1: twist of fader got taken off Hi at the airports.
Speaker 1: He tried to bring it and carry on and they
Speaker 1: took it off him. See we're going to take this off.
Speaker 1: He goes, you take it, take it. It's memories. It
Speaker 1: was sixty nine dogs shit.
Speaker 3: I'd be upset.
Speaker 5: What stayed were you guys in for the flight home?
Speaker 5: I can imagine. I remember, like the flight back from
Speaker 5: London was. The trip to London we did was a
Speaker 5: great time, but the flight home was the worst.
Speaker 3: Time of my entire life.
Speaker 4: Let's just say that when you just got nothing.
Speaker 5: Left in the team and you can't celebrate on the
Speaker 5: way there, you're like all excited, so you'll have a
Speaker 5: few and your ged up for the trip. On the
Speaker 5: way home, you've got nothing, nothing but regret, misery and torture, so.
Speaker 1: Much regret, so much anxiety as well. I mean on
Speaker 1: the way over, I had Manaiah and Jury behind us,
Speaker 1: behind Jerry and I and.
Speaker 3: Imagine they would have just watched a movie and gone
Speaker 3: to sleep.
Speaker 1: I drifted off to sleep with the sounds of more
Speaker 1: cans of beer are opened, and then two more please,
Speaker 1: and then.
Speaker 3: That's all I can hear coming from behind me.
Speaker 1: And they came back and they got sorry, we've run
Speaker 1: out of and I thought they were going to say
Speaker 1: run out of beer. They said, we've run out of
Speaker 1: Tiger and they were like, oh, just two heinekens in
Speaker 1: and they're like okay, and have no trouble getting through
Speaker 1: customs or anything. No, no, I know, because there was
Speaker 1: a time where we're going to through London and we
Speaker 1: arrived and we're dangerously staying.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, And it's quite sometimes like trying to get
Speaker 5: through customs with you when you're a nebra headitors, because
Speaker 5: you could you start talking really poshly like to try
Speaker 5: and cover.
Speaker 3: Up, so like good evening, sir, just flying from Auckland.
Speaker 3: I am New Zealand.
Speaker 4: I am not a traveling drug dealer.
Speaker 3: In New Zealand.
Speaker 1: When we landed after seventeen hours, the welcome we got
Speaker 1: in New Zealand was the worst.
Speaker 3: So basically, get off.
Speaker 1: There's a customs lady standing in there, and there's another
Speaker 1: customs guy on the tunnel going, there's gonna be dogs
Speaker 1: when you come out, Single file, please, single file. We
Speaker 1: get out off the bridge, met by four more customers,
Speaker 1: go against the wall, single.
Speaker 3: File, and we're like, they say, yelling at you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, single file, against the wall, keep walking.
Speaker 3: We're like the fuck and these dogs running everywhere.
Speaker 1: And that was our welcome to New Zealand after seventeen
Speaker 1: hours on a plane getting yelled at with labradors. And
Speaker 1: then obviously we've been to Amsterdam and a few other places,
Speaker 1: so I got god knows what someone could have put
Speaker 1: in my luggage. So you immediately start sweating and the
Speaker 1: dog comes over and.
Speaker 4: Sniffing my leg.
Speaker 1: I said, mate, I've got dog shit all over me
Speaker 1: from rolling around a dog shit. It's not drugs, it's
Speaker 1: dog shit whatever, mate, drugs dog shit. I already had
Speaker 1: my excuse. If I had to end of my bag,
Speaker 1: I was gonna go go rolling dog shit in Amsterdam.
Speaker 1: That's probably what it's sniffing.
Speaker 5: I've got this weird thing about the reports. And I
Speaker 5: know this is a sports obstensibly sports podcast. That's my
Speaker 5: nice Stuart loves to say, but why do you get
Speaker 5: told off at the reports? Like I was running late
Speaker 5: for a plane recently and I was arrived less than
Speaker 5: half an hour before the flight took off, and this
Speaker 5: one goes, you can't you can't arrive and expect to
Speaker 5: get on a plane. She just started telling them off.
Speaker 5: It's like, I'm the customer here. It's the only it's
Speaker 5: the only industry in the world with the customer. It's
Speaker 5: constantly getting told off. You get off a plane, you're
Speaker 5: a customer for the airport, yell dying back and getting
Speaker 5: yelled out by customs. You're late for the plane, you're
Speaker 5: told off like a school ku. It's like, if I
Speaker 5: can't get on the plane, just say I'm sorry, you
Speaker 5: can't get on the plane.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: I don't need the lecture. I don't need to be
Speaker 3: told off.
Speaker 4: It's like, I know I'm late, I don't know I
Speaker 4: don't need it, just just just they make it quite hostile.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quite a hostile and moron, yeah yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: And even clicking your luggage, jeez, that's intense. You got
Speaker 1: boomers whacking into the becky, your your r chillies with
Speaker 1: their trolleys trying to get to the front.
Speaker 4: You dude. Fuck, it's not even started yet.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 1: Anyway, sport, we'll take a quick break backwards some sport, right,
Speaker 1: ragby over the weekend, big results outside the AB's victory,
Speaker 1: and I'll talk about the under eighty five's. The national
Speaker 1: under eighty five kg final was before the curtain raiser.
Speaker 1: Last year's final was an absolute barnstormer. This year even better.
Speaker 1: It was the high school old Boys light Beers from
Speaker 1: christ Church versus the Papacuta Black Panthers and it was
Speaker 1: one an extra time Papaka the Black Panthers scored a
Speaker 1: try an extra time and converted it from the sideline
Speaker 1: to in twenty three to twenty two.
Speaker 3: It was one of the great games. Is rugby better
Speaker 3: at under eighty five?
Speaker 1: Oh? It's basically like grown men playing high school rugby,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? High school ruby is quite fast,
Speaker 1: everyone's the same size the props, the same size as
Speaker 1: the half back, as the same size as the winger.
Speaker 1: It's basically so break the line a lot more fifteen
Speaker 1: loose forwards. Yeah, yeah, it's fifteen loosewards. On the field,
Speaker 1: there is I mean, give it, give or take. There
Speaker 1: is a small few small size discrepancies. But out of
Speaker 1: the back of the the Wi Blacks, I'm calling them
Speaker 1: the Wi Blecks. There's going to be in New Zealand
Speaker 1: under eighty five's teams selected. Wow, and the Wi Blacks
Speaker 1: will get to tour Asia and play full strength Asian nations. Wow,
Speaker 1: whether they play Vietnam's team or they play Singapore or that.
Speaker 3: So we how far are they going to Shri Lanka
Speaker 3: because Sri Lanka loves rugby?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well hopefully they do. But that's quite funny, which.
Speaker 5: Sri Lanka we need to hand out as to them,
Speaker 5: Yeah in rugby because that was humiliating it.
Speaker 1: But it'd be quite funny because I imagine that they'll
Speaker 1: advertise it as you know, the all Blacks eighty five's
Speaker 1: or whatever, but people will just see all Blacks and
Speaker 1: when they turn up, these guys are why are they
Speaker 1: so small?
Speaker 4: Good?
Speaker 3: But small.
Speaker 5: I like, how you've gone for the Wi Blacks when
Speaker 5: small blacks are sitting right in front of you.
Speaker 1: I thought someone uses the small blacks. I think, isn't
Speaker 1: that the all blacks. There's an all black kind of
Speaker 1: kids program they called.
Speaker 3: The which is like a club which so we blex
Speaker 3: is open. The we blax is open like a we
Speaker 3: men the weed blex.
Speaker 1: So that was a great curtain raiser to what was
Speaker 1: actually turned out to be a great game down in
Speaker 1: Wellington thirty three thirteen five tries to one. Pretty comprehensive
Speaker 1: in terms of tries, two to Jebba the butt, one
Speaker 1: to will Jordan, one to severed piece and one to
Speaker 1: to Maty Williams.
Speaker 3: But great to see jeb with the.
Speaker 5: Butt, jab the butt. Just he plays a hell of
Speaker 5: a game. Then he gets yellow carded. It's fine, that's
Speaker 5: just the way he goes.
Speaker 1: Now, that was lazy though, that was it was also
Speaker 1: he was like so surprised, but he basically came from
Speaker 1: an offside position and booted the ball out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but also so last time it was an intentional knockdown. Yes,
Speaker 5: about the same point.
Speaker 3: Of the game. But he said he's done enough.
Speaker 2: Two tries.
Speaker 3: He's looking great though, Jebba.
Speaker 1: The butt, he is looking great and obviously he's not
Speaker 1: happy with Jebbeth Butt. So we're trying to think of
Speaker 1: another Star Wars nickname. Thing that was chew Clucker? Was it?
Speaker 3: Chew Cluker was the one that.
Speaker 4: But but he's not a Rockie.
Speaker 3: No, it has to be but related or use it
Speaker 3: doesn't work.
Speaker 1: I know, well we did have Caleb Clakdeshian. That doesn't
Speaker 1: roll off the tongue when you're commentating.
Speaker 3: No, you need it needs to be but related if
Speaker 3: people are going to do it. He is because Jabber
Speaker 3: the butter is so good.
Speaker 4: But your boy Wallace the t Wallace side titty good.
Speaker 5: Seeing we're talking on the met jury brick for Shure
Speaker 5: this morning, the fifth the last one ever that you
Speaker 5: you were disparaging of your blindside.
Speaker 3: I was worried. I was worried.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a specialist position and he's going to get
Speaker 1: basically put on the biggest stage in the hood in
Speaker 1: South Africa against South Africa and be put off blindside
Speaker 1: flankas I.
Speaker 3: Was worried for him.
Speaker 1: I was worried for the fact that if he didn't
Speaker 1: play well, people would criticize him and never play again.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm worried. But now he's just the superstar.
Speaker 3: He's trench.
Speaker 1: Put him at eight, yeah, put severe at at blindside
Speaker 1: and let him run off the back of the scrum.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a ball carry, he's a ballplayer. It's a
Speaker 3: great haircut, great great hair.
Speaker 5: Great pass, Ok, Little Richard, perfect pass to set up
Speaker 5: Anton Lennont Brown.
Speaker 3: I believe it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, little bit of a cheat. Chiefs mana in
Speaker 4: to play there.
Speaker 5: Yeah No, I've thoroughly enjoyed that game. But I've got
Speaker 5: a slight complaint about all blacks fans. And I've had
Speaker 5: this before. That was the best you get from all
Speaker 5: blacks fans. And I understand that Courtney Place was rocking
Speaker 5: and the crowd of the cake Tin were given it.
Speaker 3: They're all.
Speaker 5: But then you watch the South African Argentinian game on
Speaker 5: the lo vout and it is a freaking party. People
Speaker 5: are dancing around, there's so much color. People are just
Speaker 5: having the best. It's a festival, it's Marty Gras and
Speaker 5: there's just something about it. And I think you said
Speaker 5: to me this morning, Gelane, it's because they don't go
Speaker 5: expecting to win, so we kind of go along to
Speaker 5: pay tribute to the all blacks and watch them win.
Speaker 5: Whereas other teams around the world, like college football or
Speaker 5: so many different things, people go for the party and
Speaker 5: the game is at the party.
Speaker 3: Yes, they're really yeah.
Speaker 5: That's the entertainment, and they're hugely supportive, and they really care,
Speaker 5: they live and die. They arguably care more than we do.
Speaker 5: But they go to celebrate the event and be part
Speaker 5: of an event. Whereas we sit and we're all wearing black,
Speaker 5: I think that's a problem, you know, I mean all blacks.
Speaker 5: The uniform looks great on the team, but the fact
Speaker 5: we all were black there, it looks the whole crowd.
Speaker 3: Looks so dim and dark.
Speaker 5: And it's at night, whereas the South African games are
Speaker 5: played in the day. So it just it's an absolute festival.
Speaker 5: And I just I just think we need to get that.
Speaker 5: And I think it was you also saying that maybe
Speaker 5: as we aren't going to be so dominant around the world,
Speaker 5: because people are saying now that we may never get
Speaker 5: back to that level of dominance that we had in
Speaker 5: the Richie McCourt era, that maybe we can learn to
Speaker 5: just love it love the team for who they are,
Speaker 5: love the characters, and enjoy it and learn to enjoy
Speaker 5: the party.
Speaker 4: That's actually Cory learn.
Speaker 1: We're not quite there with cricket, but we're on the
Speaker 1: journey with cricket. And during the nineties and two thousands,
Speaker 1: when we started the Beigemagade, that's what it was all about.
Speaker 1: It was about passion, not fashion. It was anything but
Speaker 1: the cricket. Yeah, I mean that's how the acc started.
Speaker 1: It was like, we talk about anying but the cricket.
Speaker 1: We talked about the cricket because we were there to
Speaker 1: commentate it. But it is taking it beyond just winning
Speaker 1: because our cricket team don't win all the time.
Speaker 4: So you've got to find something else to hold onto.
Speaker 4: And now hold on to is going for.
Speaker 1: A date at the cricket with your mates, having a
Speaker 1: few beers, having a laugh, talking some shit. If we win,
Speaker 1: fucking great is it?
Speaker 5: Because the prices are too high for the tickets, so
Speaker 5: you only get I mean, there were some people party.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not. I'm not running it down that
Speaker 3: we can do.
Speaker 1: When they were singing Sweet Caroline, they stopped the music
Speaker 1: and the crowd kept singing through through the phases of
Speaker 1: and they were singing and then we had to stop
Speaker 1: the commentary.
Speaker 3: McCay.
Speaker 1: Mcconey goes, my god, the crowd is singing and there's
Speaker 1: no DJ punishing them, and I said, well they are
Speaker 1: off the back of the DJ punishing that is finishing
Speaker 1: the song. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they were.
Speaker 4: They were noisy. There was no empty seats.
Speaker 3: It was like Warrington almost redeemed themselves.
Speaker 5: But the noise is not the level of noise there
Speaker 5: you get in South Africa is so loud South America.
Speaker 1: It go to Argentina. I mean, look at their crowds.
Speaker 1: They fucking hardly ever win. They're winning now, which is great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they don't care. They will party no matter what.
Speaker 3: They look great as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we need to get that because that's that's the thing,
Speaker 5: you're right, That is the entertainment, and we kind of
Speaker 5: forget that. It's not about going to worship at the
Speaker 5: altar of the All Blacks. Yeah, like you can have
Speaker 5: bathing their reflected glory and somehow you're a better person
Speaker 5: because the All Blacks are great.
Speaker 1: That's the biggest examples. That was the twenty and eleven
Speaker 1: final at Eton Park. Yeah, the quietest r final of
Speaker 1: all time where you could could hear it seriously clear
Speaker 1: a pin drop the whole game because everyone was as
Speaker 1: terrified that we were going to lose.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's that's such as the worst mentality ever.
Speaker 4: I remember seeing the game.
Speaker 5: You're so terrified that you're going to lose that you
Speaker 5: forget that part of your job is to support the
Speaker 5: team by making a.
Speaker 4: Lot of noise the best thing you can do. It's like,
Speaker 4: just give them support.
Speaker 1: The last Wellington Test against Argentina, they lost in the
Speaker 1: last ten minutes. They needed the crowd to get behind them.
Speaker 1: What did the DJ do play?
Speaker 3: Aviccy was like it was a crime. That was a crime,
Speaker 3: because that's the chance to get the punishing all blacks.
Speaker 1: Charn't go oh, let's do the defense chart now as well,
Speaker 1: like theyre at a basketball game. I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: it's a tough it's a tough task.
Speaker 5: How do you change the culture towards people enjoying it?
Speaker 5: But you know, back in ancient Roman times at the Colisseum,
Speaker 5: they had stratas of people there, so they were like
Speaker 5: they didn't want too many elites there. So they have
Speaker 5: the elites and then the second level, but then they'd
Speaker 5: have just a bunch of lizards because they knew the
Speaker 5: lizards would have a good time. So that the back
Speaker 5: and you're only a certain amount of each tier of society,
Speaker 5: so you need a bunch of a tear for people
Speaker 5: in their twenties that are just wrapping it up like
Speaker 5: the zoo.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe that the All Blacks keep losing. The kousers
Speaker 1: who actually come to the game just to watch them win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll drop off.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think yeah, because the people win, the
Speaker 5: people that dress themselves up in the full all Blacks
Speaker 5: kit with like the hand that the wooly hat and
Speaker 5: the scarf and the jersey, and until you're a couple
Speaker 5: and then the and they go around and tell your
Speaker 5: shut up and sit down. They'll stop going because it
Speaker 5: doesn't gratify them as people.
Speaker 4: Correct, you know, they build the whole personality around the
Speaker 4: August winning.
Speaker 5: But the guy that goes there and a speedo and
Speaker 5: a scarf, Yes, those people start coming come.
Speaker 1: In now, but they'll they'll have to have to change
Speaker 1: because we're not going to win every game. We're going
Speaker 1: to struggle to win the Rugby Championship in the next
Speaker 1: few years, and we've got to get in getting behind them,
Speaker 1: and maybe a way of doing it is maybe losing
Speaker 1: those fans.
Speaker 5: This is the chicken you rejected from a superior teinted
Speaker 5: October fish. This chicken your head on your head.
Speaker 4: This is the famous chicken head. This is the famous
Speaker 4: chicken head.
Speaker 3: It looks disgustingly dirty because it fell off my head
Speaker 3: on the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's one of the most humiliating hats.
Speaker 3: You can wear it.
Speaker 1: Now you get so hammered at October fist. You don't
Speaker 1: care walking around looking at this.
Speaker 5: I've got a lot of time for that, like for
Speaker 5: people to do this list thing. The drumsticks are tapping
Speaker 5: together on the top of his head.
Speaker 1: It's basically you've put your head up the ass of
Speaker 1: a cooked chicken.
Speaker 4: Like who thought there was a god everywhere?
Speaker 3: That's great everywhere.
Speaker 1: And we were the biggest suckers there because we were like,
Speaker 1: would you like a hat?
Speaker 3: Years? Would you like some more feathers than your hat? Years?
Speaker 1: Anyway, right, we'll take another quick break and we'll be
Speaker 1: back with because we need to hold each other because
Speaker 1: the black Caps they have shaped the.
Speaker 3: Bed again.
Speaker 4: Over the weekend. Matt black Caps hurt me.
Speaker 5: It was I love you, Gilane, and and I want
Speaker 5: to be there for you in this tough time. And
Speaker 5: I think this is particularly tough because we took five
Speaker 5: wickets and they took all the wickets, Like what was
Speaker 5: the difference? Why was it that we could only get
Speaker 5: five wickets? Although Darren Mitchell dropped an absolute cierate slip
Speaker 5: off a roork like really early on when I tuned in,
Speaker 5: and that would have helped if we've got that one, but.
Speaker 3: To helped, But you know that's sad.
Speaker 4: They got a wick and fist over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got four more wickets and they's scored six
Speaker 3: hundred runs.
Speaker 5: And then they just rip through us with their spinners.
Speaker 5: It's like that's an absolute punishing. We couldn't get any
Speaker 5: wickets and they seem to be able to get them
Speaker 5: very easily. You know, it's not like it's not like
Speaker 5: they wheeled in a different wicket or something overnight. You know,
Speaker 5: it was the same thing.
Speaker 1: It was. It was tough because we like not not
Speaker 1: going to rag on them too much because winning in
Speaker 1: Asia is fucking difficult, because that's that's through Laking team.
Speaker 1: It was pretty similar to the team that came to
Speaker 1: New Zealand last year and we pants them in two
Speaker 1: dismatches and then we've gone over there and it's very
Speaker 1: hard to win. But saying that that is pretty comprehensive
Speaker 1: and innings in one hundred and fifty runs.
Speaker 5: It's pretty pants down. Yeah, yeah, But do we care
Speaker 5: when it's overseas.
Speaker 4: No, they don't care. Yeah, but what it's but with
Speaker 4: the World Test Champion thing, it's going to be weird.
Speaker 3: It's just going to We've already won that. We don't
Speaker 3: need it again exactly. I agree. So, but we're headed
Speaker 3: to India now for the Test.
Speaker 5: So we're looking down the barrel because I think we've
Speaker 5: only been them once ever in a test over there,
Speaker 5: So we're looking at the barrel of having lost seven
Speaker 5: Test matches in a row after these three.
Speaker 3: Right that when booked the Halls Book, The Halls.
Speaker 1: Book are the stockslide of black kept at another thousand.
Speaker 1: We're preparing for the worst. It's like preparing for a hurricane.
Speaker 1: We've got the sandbags out, we're boarded the windows.
Speaker 5: That we're entering that era that that that you and
Speaker 5: me grew up loving cricket when it was in the
Speaker 5: tough times. Oh yeah, so we're used to it. There's
Speaker 5: there's a whole generation of young people that have never
Speaker 5: experienced these times. They they are in for a shock
Speaker 5: because they've gone through a great, great time being a
Speaker 5: cricket fan.
Speaker 3: That's when you find out you're a real cricket fan.
Speaker 1: That's why the boomers are struggling now with the all
Speaker 1: blecks loser.
Speaker 3: They've never seen it.
Speaker 4: No, they've never seen it.
Speaker 3: And this is like you're saying, like.
Speaker 1: The young young cricket fans, they've seen us make two
Speaker 1: World Cup finals, I've seen us win a World Test Championship.
Speaker 4: They think we're great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just ropping through teams at home. Those days might
Speaker 5: be over. And but but that's where the SEC is
Speaker 5: for you because we can talk around the issue.
Speaker 1: Yep, we can, and we can hold each other. We
Speaker 1: can sell you a T shirt Black Supporters support group.
Speaker 1: That the best thing about the bat Pep supporters. It's
Speaker 1: like when you see someone else in that, you immediately
Speaker 1: want to go and hold them.
Speaker 3: Everything's going to be okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like the Mason's handshake. We see someone else
Speaker 5: in a black Cat supporter support group, you just go
Speaker 5: up and you give them a big, big man hug.
Speaker 4: Don't just say anything, you don't understand anything, just just
Speaker 4: just just hold them tight. Yeah, and then just walk away.
Speaker 4: You just walk away and then that's all you need
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 3: And that's that.
Speaker 1: That and that hug for that person will mean a
Speaker 1: lot and you'll get them through the next test.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you n r L on the weekend as well.
Speaker 1: The finalists have been decided for the Grand Final next Sunday,
Speaker 1: which the a SEC are covering on Skysport.
Speaker 3: Nine Panthers fifth, fifth. Yes, that seems insane in the
Speaker 3: modern era that something like that could that could happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something that's why they put in the salary cap.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't seem to be work.
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem be working with Panthers, but saying that
Speaker 3: they are losing a lot of players next season, including
Speaker 3: New Zealand. Yes, so it's a.
Speaker 4: Panthers storm final. Nathan Cleary was good, is he?
Speaker 3: Ah? He's so bloody good.
Speaker 1: I love it when he came onto the pitch and
Speaker 1: he looked up to this, you know how the players
Speaker 1: they look up kind of they're preparing and his chin
Speaker 1: is so messive.
Speaker 3: That's a ridiculous. It's like the profile of it was.
Speaker 5: My girlfriend was saying, how come he's still attractive? Like,
Speaker 5: how can you still be attractive for that chin? He
Speaker 5: looks like a cartoon character toure of a league player.
Speaker 1: I think front on he looks nice. I always like
Speaker 1: to think I look better front one on side on.
Speaker 1: I've just got this massive double chin and a pointy nose.
Speaker 3: Well, last year, we were on a plane back from
Speaker 3: somewhere when we watched it in the year. Didn't we
Speaker 3: watch the grand.
Speaker 5: We watched the final year We're off too, and then
Speaker 5: oh somewhere Paris, Yes, Paris.
Speaker 1: But he.
Speaker 5: That moment when Ivan and Nathan are embraced afterwards, I
Speaker 5: teared up.
Speaker 4: When you're ten thousand feet up, you're tearing up.
Speaker 3: I teared up. I watched Father and Son just but
Speaker 3: he looks well.
Speaker 5: He doesn't look great profile, but he looks good on
Speaker 5: his back. There's no injury problems. Yeah, it's going to
Speaker 5: be interesting and I hate the Melbourne Storm They're too
Speaker 5: annoyingly good.
Speaker 1: But so are the Panthers. It's going to be an
Speaker 1: annoying final to watch. Yeah, because I kind of don't
Speaker 1: I kind of want the Panthers to win because.
Speaker 3: More Panthers and Storm. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, because he's a key with connection then Nathan
Speaker 1: Clear he was born and he was born in Harris.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sharers is going Nathan Clear, he's got new pass.
Speaker 3: He's news in the past one. Yeah, we've got to
Speaker 3: get there's no no doubt. If you don't have any
Speaker 3: skin in the game, then it's got to be Panthers.
Speaker 3: Yea and his little brothers coming to the Warriors too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so okay, okay, I'm all in with the Panthers,
Speaker 1: with the six Panthers. Yeah, And like I said, we'll
Speaker 1: be covering that on Sunday. Last bit of news coming
Speaker 1: out Liam Lawson his final Yeah, he's taken over a
Speaker 1: big nose.
Speaker 5: I'm worried for him because he's coming in at a
Speaker 5: team when everyone's abandoning ship and he's got to the
Speaker 5: end of the season to prove himself. Yeah, he's had
Speaker 5: six races, it's got six races, and he's great, obviously,
Speaker 5: great New Zealander. And it's a great chance and the
Speaker 5: chances of getting a seat in Formula one if you're
Speaker 5: not a billionnaius Son, it's so minute. It's an incredible
Speaker 5: thing to do. It's the hardest position to get and
Speaker 5: so amazing that he's got there. But it's a it's
Speaker 5: a challenging team to be a part of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's in the.
Speaker 1: Racing red Bulls, which is the feed into Red Bull Racing,
Speaker 1: which is the other one, which is the Maxi strap
Speaker 1: On one. But he's taking over big nose Daniel Ricardo,
Speaker 1: who's arguably the most popular one driver in America, especially
Speaker 1: after the Drive to Survive because he's such a smiling,
Speaker 1: happy chairpy so Liam Lawson has copped so many strays
Speaker 1: on social media. It wasn't up to him. The team
Speaker 1: decided that Riccardo's gone and he's in, and he's cop
Speaker 1: so much abuse from Daniel Riccardo fans who obviously like
Speaker 1: dudes with big noses.
Speaker 4: Who doesn't, So the poor guy, he's like got chance.
Speaker 1: Now he's getting absolutely railed on by fans.
Speaker 5: And and and a team with a lot of people
Speaker 5: are been in his ship. Yeap and so, but I
Speaker 5: reckon give him taste of ki We Yeah, I think
Speaker 5: I reckon o. Can he just tested it in some
Speaker 5: ways that might be an advantage. Yeah, he's got because
Speaker 5: you just have to do.
Speaker 3: He's going to go for it. You just go for it.
Speaker 1: I think worst case scenario, Okay, worst case scenario gets
Speaker 1: a seat next year in that the racing Red Bulls,
Speaker 1: which is that sonoda second tier one. Best case scenario,
Speaker 1: he does fucking awesome in the next six races, and
Speaker 1: they dropped Checko Sugio Pirez from the Red Bull Racing
Speaker 1: team and he goes in there and becomes the co
Speaker 1: driver of Maxis strap On.
Speaker 3: That would that be the ideal? Yeah? That would that
Speaker 3: would be amazing. Six races to six glory. Yeah, no, no.
Speaker 1: Pressure, just put it all out there. Fuck yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: good on, Good on, Liam Lawson. We will replay the
Speaker 1: interview we did with them actually when we asked them
Speaker 1: the twenty two and too and unfortunately we asked him
Speaker 1: a question around who's got the biggest downstairs out of
Speaker 1: all the principles?
Speaker 3: How was unfortunate that you asked that? Yeah, well, it's
Speaker 3: unfortunately premeditated, but unfortunate it was.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately because he said, Gunta Steiner, what's some to say?
Speaker 1: This guy, the good looking guy looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger
Speaker 1: him or Christian Horner. Who's got the biggest downstairs and
Speaker 1: he had I've got to say Christian Horner. But then
Speaker 1: the next day came out all of the kind of
Speaker 1: sexual misconduct allegations about Christian Corner.
Speaker 3: Well, Horner is a difficult name to behave with.
Speaker 1: It is, he's a difficult hole to keep in the
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Speaker 1: It's like you're I like that you wrote this while
Speaker 1: we're away, like mother.
Speaker 5: Focause my social media has been lit up and I
Speaker 5: was dropped. I was dropped from the Paris trip. Like
Speaker 5: there was three of you.
Speaker 3: We were all in Paris together and I was dropped.
Speaker 5: And your place with this new fancy guy looks amazing
Speaker 5: to say to Ludah Housen, and he's more fun than me.
Speaker 3: It was I was dropped for a better man. That's
Speaker 3: what hurt Jay Wells Well, I would.
Speaker 4: Say next year, Matt, but you're fucking off to ZB.
Speaker 3: So I'm staying with the ACC that. Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to be more ACC focused now because
Speaker 5: I'm going to be hanging out to hang out with
Speaker 5: you guys.
Speaker 3: How's that going? And my negotiations with ZB, I said,
Speaker 3: I'm not giving up the ACC.
Speaker 1: You're going to say, like I'm I'm going to the
Speaker 1: Singapore Grand Premix year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, bloody am, I am, I am, and I were
Speaker 5: laid and I'm going to do the full October fiest
Speaker 5: over there. Try and I'll bring a marquee and I'll
Speaker 5: try and relive the times that I've missed.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll get on there and you can listen to
Speaker 1: that school see the otherwise I've seen tomorrow.
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