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Speaker 1: Jamie Mackay, Host of the Countries with us Alo Jamie.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Heather, just on those weight loss drugs. They are

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Speaker 2: the likes of a Zempe and those sort of drugs

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Speaker 2: very good for dairy farming. There's been a bit of

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Speaker 2: a boom in the demand for protein, and I understand

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Speaker 2: that is because younger people using the weight loss drugs

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Speaker 2: don't want to lose muscle mass, so they're bulking up

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Speaker 2: on the protein. So there you go. Every cloud has

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Speaker 2: its silver lining.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's absolutely right. Now, speaking of farming obviously, because

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Speaker 1: it's you. How do you think the heinz Wat's thing

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Speaker 1: is going, especially in christ You're just going to affect

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Speaker 1: the farmers.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting. I was reading a story somewhere and

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Speaker 2: I can't even credit the source, unfortunately, Heather, because I've forgotten. Look,

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Speaker 2: roughly two hundred and twenty that's quite a number of growers.

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Speaker 2: Pea and vegetable growers will be affected by the Heinz

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Speaker 2: watty decision to hold production of frozen vegetables at their

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Speaker 2: christ Church factory. As a result, we're seeing more interest

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Speaker 2: in going from arable, which isn't paying very well at

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Speaker 2: the moment, to dairy farming. There's been an uptick in conversions.

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Speaker 2: Just looking around those numbers, I think something like depending

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Speaker 2: on who you believe, anything from twenty five to fifty

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Speaker 2: conversions are taking place across Canterbury. Resource consent is no

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Speaker 2: longer needed for a dairy conversion. If you've got an

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Speaker 2: existing farming practice that qualifies, but you do need a

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Speaker 2: resource consent for your affluent discharge. So this is how

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Speaker 2: they're figuring out how many conversions are happening in the province.

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Speaker 2: It seems to be a bit of an imprecise science

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Speaker 2: to me. So we've seen thirty two new affluent discharge consents.

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Speaker 2: Three further consent applications were withdrawn, so that leaves us

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Speaker 2: at thirty two. Another fifteen were lodged and are in

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Speaker 2: the consenting process, so that's very close to fifty. My

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Speaker 2: math has got that at forty seven. Canterbury now a

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Speaker 2: huge dairying industry, a dairying province. Should I say twenty

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Speaker 2: percent of the country's cows are domiciled, and between North

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Speaker 2: and South Canterbury, twenty two percent of the country's milk

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Speaker 2: solid production coming out of that region. Most of it

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Speaker 2: is irrigated, most of it's very high productive land, that

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Speaker 2: Canterbury plains land, especially when you put water on its

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Speaker 2: great at growing things. So if you can't grow veggies

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Speaker 2: and veggies and arable crops, maybe you can grow some

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Speaker 2: milk and get some protein into those people taking the

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Speaker 2: weight losstro those people.

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Speaker 1: There is a term for it, Jamie. It's come through

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Speaker 1: on the text machine. They're called we're govy scarecrows. No,

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Speaker 1: we don't need to cast dispersions. They want to look

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Speaker 1: like that and they look wonderful. Okay, how's the confidence

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Speaker 1: amongst the farmers.

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Speaker 2: Well, the latest Rabobank or the first Rabobank Rural Confidence

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Speaker 2: Survey is out for the year now. I don't think

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Speaker 2: any of this fell on, or very little of it

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Speaker 2: fell on since the start of the war. And I've

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Speaker 2: been listening to you talking about the fuel crisis across

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Speaker 2: the Tasman. I was talking to my guy over there

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Speaker 2: today and ain't good. They're worse off than we are.

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Speaker 2: So it's just inching up. We've had net positive readings

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Speaker 2: and farmer confidence in the last seven quarters dating back

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Speaker 2: to September twenty twenty four, not surprisingly higher commodity prices

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Speaker 2: at fifty two percent of respondents was cited as the

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Speaker 2: major source of optimism, and not surprisingly, rising input costs

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Speaker 2: thirty two percent was the most prominent reason given by

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Speaker 2: those farmers with a negative outlook. Obviously that number will

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Speaker 2: get higher since the advent of this war in the

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Speaker 2: Middle East. In the Middle East. Now, despite the small

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Speaker 2: drop in some farmer confidence, not all right across the board,

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Speaker 2: but some sheep and beef farmers continue to be the

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Speaker 2: most optimistic. Dairy farmers and horticulturists are now more upbeat

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Speaker 2: about their prospects than were late last year. No surprise

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Speaker 2: to see the dairy farmers more optimistic. Here at Heather

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Speaker 2: nine falls to finish off twenty twenty five and the GDT,

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Speaker 2: including Wednesday's zero point one percent lift, we've had six

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Speaker 2: positive auctions to kick off twenty twenty six. And maybe

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Speaker 2: between the weight loss drugs and the correlation between whole

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Speaker 2: milk powder and oil prices, maybe dairy farming's the business

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Speaker 2: to be in. Yeah, sounds like it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Jammie, look after yourself, Jammie mckaye,

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Speaker 1: host of the Country.

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