1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Janetibstradi, the Herald's Wellington Business editor, is with us. Now, 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,559 Speaker 1: how do you know? Okay, so how many banks have 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: dropped the mortgage rates by half a percentage point then. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 2: Am out straight straight away, straight after the Reserve Bank 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: announced the cuts. In fact, one bank I got an 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: email from them before I got a message from the 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: Reserve Bank saying that it was cutting the OCR by 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: fifty basis points. So they've all moved, They've all moved quickly. 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: That's good. Okay. What are we expecting from how the 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: US election is going to affect what happens from here 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: on in? Because it sounds like the Reserve Bank's a 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: little worried about it. 13 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Look, I think the Reserve Bank today just 14 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: Adrianal tempered people's expectations a little bit, and in fact 15 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: he said the thrill might not be as big as 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: what it looks like. Those were Adrianaal's words today. Now, 17 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 2: the reason for this is that the OCR isn't the 18 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: only thing that influences the mortgage rates that you and 19 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: I pay. Banks also get funding from offshore markets. They 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: borrow money from overseas, and the issue here is that 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: the interest rates that are being charged for these money 22 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 2: markets around the world are elevated at the moment, and 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: that is because of the outcome of the U s election. 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 2: So because Donald Trump is promising tax cuts in the US, 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: people think that the deficit in the US will be deeper. 26 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: You know that the US will continue being in a 27 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: lot of debt. And also Donald Trump with the tariffs 28 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: and things that he's proposing, they could be inflationary. All 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: of this creates more uncertainty and more risk, and investors 30 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: price that risk into assets. And if there's more risk, 31 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: there's you know that there's a risk premiere priced in 32 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: that elevates interest rates. So if those interest rates in 33 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: global money markets are higher, then that influences banks funding costs, 34 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: and that influences the interest rates that we pay. So 35 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: you know that it's still a positive story. Mortgage rates 36 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: are still coming down. We should just be a little 37 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: bit cautious about the extent to which they will fall. 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a very good point. You know, thanks for 39 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: talking through. Appreciate it. You know. Tube Trainee, the Herald's 40 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: Wellington Business 41 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: Edits for more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive listen live 42 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: to news talks 'd b from four pm weekdays, or 43 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio