1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,973 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sat B. 2 00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:21,213 Speaker 1: Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on Iheartradiot. 3 00:00:21,333 --> 00:00:23,093 Speaker 2: Take another pat. 4 00:00:22,013 --> 00:00:25,213 Speaker 3: Now it's a trick. It is out. 5 00:00:25,533 --> 00:00:26,333 Speaker 4: The test is over. 6 00:00:28,573 --> 00:00:29,293 Speaker 3: Gon't to smoke? 7 00:00:29,653 --> 00:00:30,813 Speaker 5: Wow? Was a beauty? 8 00:00:30,973 --> 00:00:32,213 Speaker 2: Is out? 9 00:00:32,253 --> 00:00:35,013 Speaker 3: And here he goes. This delivery has in un music. 10 00:00:34,853 --> 00:00:40,173 Speaker 1: To Goold on the front Foot with Brian Waddell and 11 00:00:40,293 --> 00:00:45,293 Speaker 1: Jeremy Cody, powered by News Talks dead B at iHeart Radio. 12 00:00:47,973 --> 00:00:50,453 Speaker 4: Hello, We're on the front foot once again along with 13 00:00:50,773 --> 00:00:53,973 Speaker 4: Racine one hundred percent key we made paints and stains 14 00:00:54,013 --> 00:00:57,733 Speaker 4: this week. Black Taps one day shortcomings exposed as they 15 00:00:57,893 --> 00:01:01,253 Speaker 4: pushed for another series win. They did just enough from 16 00:01:01,293 --> 00:01:04,213 Speaker 4: the lead up to what is an important three match 17 00:01:04,413 --> 00:01:08,613 Speaker 4: Test series. Does Mitchell Santner currently the ideal closer in 18 00:01:09,093 --> 00:01:12,093 Speaker 4: whiteball cricket? He shot up more than once that he's 19 00:01:12,133 --> 00:01:16,053 Speaker 4: certainly got the qualities the bowling issues one hundred and 20 00:01:16,173 --> 00:01:20,333 Speaker 4: seventeen off the last ten overs against the West Indies. Boy, 21 00:01:20,373 --> 00:01:23,493 Speaker 4: they've got some hitters that side, but that wasn't enough 22 00:01:23,493 --> 00:01:26,693 Speaker 4: to get them through. Could have been costly though. Oh 23 00:01:26,733 --> 00:01:29,773 Speaker 4: and it's time for the talk to stop. The ashes 24 00:01:29,973 --> 00:01:35,333 Speaker 4: start in Perth Brendan who India britten in the behind 25 00:01:35,373 --> 00:01:39,613 Speaker 4: by four pitch doctoring and the base reserve blame for 26 00:01:39,653 --> 00:01:44,013 Speaker 4: Wellington's traffic wows. Some bouncers ready to be delivered might 27 00:01:44,053 --> 00:01:46,173 Speaker 4: even need a direct it to the Swede. In fact, 28 00:01:46,253 --> 00:01:48,493 Speaker 4: I'm going to bowl a bouncers straight away as I 29 00:01:48,573 --> 00:01:51,973 Speaker 4: welcome in. Jeremy Coney and Peter Holland Moose is going 30 00:01:52,013 --> 00:01:53,973 Speaker 4: to join us today and thy support me. 31 00:01:54,053 --> 00:01:56,173 Speaker 3: I'm sure they will on the front foot. And here 32 00:01:56,213 --> 00:02:00,173 Speaker 3: he goes the bouncer blaming. 33 00:01:59,813 --> 00:02:03,653 Speaker 4: The bait reserved to try and help the Willington Traffick goes, 34 00:02:03,693 --> 00:02:08,253 Speaker 4: what about sixty years of poor management by politicians locally? 35 00:02:08,693 --> 00:02:13,613 Speaker 4: Leave the basin alone? What's this blooming limp Dick talking about? 36 00:02:15,773 --> 00:02:25,053 Speaker 5: Not a fan, Brian, No, no, it's not surprising. He 37 00:02:25,133 --> 00:02:27,733 Speaker 5: bowls his first ball a bouncer, is it is it 38 00:02:27,893 --> 00:02:34,613 Speaker 5: most runs and just this first over of the match, bouncer. 39 00:02:36,613 --> 00:02:40,053 Speaker 2: Pushing himself off the back off the fence, coming in hard. 40 00:02:42,093 --> 00:02:44,813 Speaker 2: But can I just say, Can I just say, Brian 41 00:02:45,413 --> 00:02:49,813 Speaker 2: that I was actually at the basin on the first 42 00:02:49,933 --> 00:02:54,453 Speaker 2: day of the Plunket Shield and it was absolute picture. 43 00:02:54,693 --> 00:02:58,973 Speaker 2: I've got to say, you know, the outfield looked wonderful, 44 00:02:59,253 --> 00:03:01,813 Speaker 2: and I must say the Otago batting was rather good 45 00:03:01,853 --> 00:03:07,293 Speaker 2: and Wellington's bowling was somewhat insipid. Bout but it's just 46 00:03:07,293 --> 00:03:11,853 Speaker 2: a beautiful, beautiful bunder ground and keep your hands off. 47 00:03:11,853 --> 00:03:14,853 Speaker 4: And I say exactly, yeah, we don't want cars going 48 00:03:14,933 --> 00:03:17,653 Speaker 4: through it. And we've had enough of talking about Wellington's 49 00:03:17,653 --> 00:03:22,053 Speaker 4: bowling and fielding. I'm settled now. It's a head of breath. 50 00:03:22,933 --> 00:03:24,573 Speaker 4: Cony wants to have a savor. I'm going to let 51 00:03:24,653 --> 00:03:24,973 Speaker 4: him go. 52 00:03:26,373 --> 00:03:29,293 Speaker 5: No, no, you can't. You can't do that. I've been 53 00:03:29,333 --> 00:03:34,173 Speaker 5: left out of so many sides before. Look, I just 54 00:03:34,213 --> 00:03:37,013 Speaker 5: think it's a great ground and its location is central. 55 00:03:37,493 --> 00:03:40,973 Speaker 5: How many patrons have taken that walk up Courtney from 56 00:03:41,013 --> 00:03:45,213 Speaker 5: Courtney Place, you know, and you think about it. You 57 00:03:45,293 --> 00:03:49,893 Speaker 5: know there aren't that many open green spaces in the city. 58 00:03:51,653 --> 00:03:53,653 Speaker 5: But yeah, those who want to say get rid of 59 00:03:53,733 --> 00:03:57,733 Speaker 5: it for tar seal, you know, they've been tried before 60 00:03:58,493 --> 00:04:00,853 Speaker 5: and it provoked a sense of outrage, and so it 61 00:04:00,893 --> 00:04:04,293 Speaker 5: should because it's been central to the history of Wellington, 62 00:04:04,333 --> 00:04:09,333 Speaker 5: hasn't it. So there you know, right from the tie go, 63 00:04:09,533 --> 00:04:12,533 Speaker 5: when when little when what did ships want? Were they 64 00:04:12,613 --> 00:04:17,293 Speaker 5: once there in that shallow lagoon. They came up, Yeah, 65 00:04:17,413 --> 00:04:21,213 Speaker 5: they came up Kent Terrace or Cambridge Terrace. And then 66 00:04:21,493 --> 00:04:23,973 Speaker 5: then of course an earthquake came and then the prisoners 67 00:04:23,973 --> 00:04:28,093 Speaker 5: from Mount Book were set stept on sort of you're 68 00:04:28,173 --> 00:04:30,253 Speaker 5: draining it and leveling it and that sort of thing. 69 00:04:30,333 --> 00:04:34,173 Speaker 5: And and cricketers said, hey, here's a chance. We've been 70 00:04:34,213 --> 00:04:38,013 Speaker 5: booted out of lots of grounds for buildings. Let's make 71 00:04:38,053 --> 00:04:41,573 Speaker 5: it a cricket ground in a public park. And it's been. 72 00:04:41,733 --> 00:04:43,813 Speaker 5: It's been a damn good idea, hasn't it. About one 73 00:04:43,893 --> 00:04:47,253 Speaker 5: hundred and sixty years of having a focal point for 74 00:04:47,973 --> 00:04:53,613 Speaker 5: recreation and leisure. That's fantastic, I think. So, yep, your peat, 75 00:04:53,693 --> 00:04:56,493 Speaker 5: your little classial fingers off it. 76 00:04:57,013 --> 00:04:59,533 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can bet on State High one at another time. 77 00:04:59,573 --> 00:05:01,813 Speaker 4: As far as I'm can say, let's get back to reality. 78 00:05:01,893 --> 00:05:05,093 Speaker 4: Darryl Mitchell has to throne row at Scharna to become 79 00:05:05,533 --> 00:05:10,253 Speaker 4: the new number one better in icc ODII rankings. It's 80 00:05:10,293 --> 00:05:12,613 Speaker 4: the second time in New Zealander has occupied this bot. 81 00:05:12,653 --> 00:05:15,773 Speaker 4: Glenn Turner was there in nineteen seventy nine and the 82 00:05:15,933 --> 00:05:19,573 Speaker 4: likes of crow et Cetra didn't quite make number one. 83 00:05:20,013 --> 00:05:22,293 Speaker 4: But I think it just highlights how important he's been 84 00:05:22,373 --> 00:05:26,173 Speaker 4: to the New Zealand side in these recent series against Australia, 85 00:05:26,253 --> 00:05:27,893 Speaker 4: England and now the Western. 86 00:05:28,933 --> 00:05:35,133 Speaker 2: Isn't this a really good story about Mitchell. He he 87 00:05:35,213 --> 00:05:39,853 Speaker 2: doesn't sort of look the park per se, but he 88 00:05:39,853 --> 00:05:42,973 Speaker 2: he's really settled into himself and looks comfortable in his 89 00:05:43,013 --> 00:05:47,853 Speaker 2: own skin, so to speak. Very mature cricketer now can 90 00:05:47,893 --> 00:05:55,653 Speaker 2: weather the tough moments, noses game appears extremely well and 91 00:05:55,853 --> 00:05:59,093 Speaker 2: Annow's has become an absolute foot from for the New 92 00:05:59,213 --> 00:06:04,053 Speaker 2: Zealand cricket side. I applaud him because he's Yeah, as 93 00:06:04,093 --> 00:06:07,413 Speaker 2: I say, he came in somewhat late and now he's 94 00:06:07,573 --> 00:06:11,813 Speaker 2: must have can't do without them, So I just say done, 95 00:06:12,133 --> 00:06:13,453 Speaker 2: well done you Daryl Mitchell. 96 00:06:13,853 --> 00:06:17,693 Speaker 4: Fantastic Jerry you rated him alongside Cain Williamson a couple 97 00:06:17,733 --> 00:06:19,813 Speaker 4: of weeks ago. Didto here in terms of his commitment 98 00:06:19,893 --> 00:06:21,733 Speaker 4: to the side of what he's been able to achieve. 99 00:06:22,013 --> 00:06:25,973 Speaker 5: Oh, he's right at the heart of our side, isn't he. 100 00:06:26,013 --> 00:06:29,053 Speaker 5: We all know that, we all know where the runs 101 00:06:29,133 --> 00:06:32,533 Speaker 5: come from in a one day match, in particular, the 102 00:06:32,573 --> 00:06:35,293 Speaker 5: top four fours a good place to bat, isn't it 103 00:06:35,333 --> 00:06:39,613 Speaker 5: because the generally the newness of the of the white 104 00:06:39,733 --> 00:06:44,133 Speaker 5: balls has gone. He's got a good method. If you're 105 00:06:44,253 --> 00:06:49,453 Speaker 5: not express pace, he's coming at you and he will 106 00:06:49,573 --> 00:06:54,613 Speaker 5: affect that battle of for length and he will attack 107 00:06:54,733 --> 00:06:58,413 Speaker 5: bowlers down the ground and if they prepared to drop 108 00:06:58,453 --> 00:07:01,213 Speaker 5: short they think they're quick enough, he'll pull them away 109 00:07:01,253 --> 00:07:04,573 Speaker 5: to legs side. So he wins that battle quite it. 110 00:07:04,653 --> 00:07:07,013 Speaker 5: He bats out of his crease if the keeper doesn't 111 00:07:07,013 --> 00:07:11,213 Speaker 5: come up. He's got he's got a definite method that 112 00:07:11,293 --> 00:07:14,693 Speaker 5: everybody knows, but no one's been able to really knock 113 00:07:14,773 --> 00:07:17,613 Speaker 5: him off at particularly in New Zealand with the ball 114 00:07:17,773 --> 00:07:20,813 Speaker 5: just nipping around. He doesn't allow that to happen. So 115 00:07:21,493 --> 00:07:25,133 Speaker 5: a range of shots playing aggressive. He's got an aggressive 116 00:07:25,173 --> 00:07:28,653 Speaker 5: frame of mind and he's been very effective in that 117 00:07:28,733 --> 00:07:31,573 Speaker 5: middle order for news and he's now become the Williamson. 118 00:07:31,613 --> 00:07:34,693 Speaker 5: As I say in the if Williamson's pulling out of 119 00:07:34,773 --> 00:07:38,693 Speaker 5: the white ball games and formats, he's the man who's 120 00:07:39,013 --> 00:07:40,773 Speaker 5: holding the glue together. 121 00:07:41,293 --> 00:07:44,253 Speaker 2: And Jerry can I add what I really like about 122 00:07:44,813 --> 00:07:48,213 Speaker 2: Mitchell is that he plays cricket shots. He'll come down, 123 00:07:48,613 --> 00:07:50,973 Speaker 2: hit you over the top straight and as you say 124 00:07:51,013 --> 00:07:53,493 Speaker 2: he'll he'll drop back and pull you if you, if you, 125 00:07:53,653 --> 00:07:57,053 Speaker 2: if you drag one down proper cricket. Shot doesn't need 126 00:07:57,093 --> 00:07:59,773 Speaker 2: to get so called funky. And that's the other bit 127 00:07:59,773 --> 00:08:03,333 Speaker 2: that I'd really admire about him, and has power in 128 00:08:03,413 --> 00:08:05,973 Speaker 2: his game, which is what we talked about some time 129 00:08:06,013 --> 00:08:14,973 Speaker 2: ago when when I was last letter out of Coventry. 130 00:08:10,173 --> 00:08:12,813 Speaker 3: And so and so. 131 00:08:12,933 --> 00:08:17,013 Speaker 2: I just think this is a guy who's just developed 132 00:08:17,413 --> 00:08:20,973 Speaker 2: and really is comfortable in his own skin. 133 00:08:21,653 --> 00:08:25,013 Speaker 4: Well, he's the model for common sense cricket, isn't it 134 00:08:25,013 --> 00:08:29,493 Speaker 4: in terms of discipline shot selection. You know, every now 135 00:08:29,493 --> 00:08:31,373 Speaker 4: and again he's going to make a mistake and probably 136 00:08:31,533 --> 00:08:35,773 Speaker 4: do something a little bit untoward, because that's the nature 137 00:08:35,813 --> 00:08:38,173 Speaker 4: of the white ball game, isn't it to you sometimes 138 00:08:38,213 --> 00:08:40,813 Speaker 4: have to take risks. But I think he's been smart, 139 00:08:40,853 --> 00:08:43,773 Speaker 4: intelligent and sensible about everything he's done. And he's now 140 00:08:43,853 --> 00:08:46,293 Speaker 4: number one in the ADI game and great stuff. 141 00:08:46,893 --> 00:08:47,693 Speaker 2: How fantastic? 142 00:08:48,373 --> 00:08:51,613 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I agree. You guys have highlighted the point 143 00:08:51,613 --> 00:08:54,853 Speaker 5: that really, for me, he doesn't get he doesn't get 144 00:08:54,973 --> 00:08:59,453 Speaker 5: drawn into the funky. You don't see him reverse sweeping, 145 00:08:59,573 --> 00:09:02,733 Speaker 5: do you, not often? You don't see him sweeping very 146 00:09:02,773 --> 00:09:06,693 Speaker 5: often either. He's a front footer who goes hard enough 147 00:09:06,773 --> 00:09:09,293 Speaker 5: that he gets the hooks and he earns the hooks 148 00:09:09,533 --> 00:09:10,693 Speaker 5: and he earns the cuts. 149 00:09:11,813 --> 00:09:13,893 Speaker 4: Are you guys concerned a little bit about the bowling. 150 00:09:13,933 --> 00:09:17,573 Speaker 4: I was concerned at the way the bowler's bowled and 151 00:09:17,613 --> 00:09:22,453 Speaker 4: the deathovers one hundred and seventeen runs off ten overs. 152 00:09:22,773 --> 00:09:25,693 Speaker 4: Was it just the style of the game. Was it 153 00:09:25,933 --> 00:09:28,653 Speaker 4: McLean park Napier where I could probably throw from the 154 00:09:28,693 --> 00:09:31,933 Speaker 4: boundary to the stumps in the middle on one bounce, 155 00:09:33,213 --> 00:09:35,293 Speaker 4: or have we got a bit of work to do 156 00:09:35,533 --> 00:09:38,213 Speaker 4: with our bowlers because there was some you know, there 157 00:09:38,213 --> 00:09:39,613 Speaker 4: were some pies tossed in there. 158 00:09:40,413 --> 00:09:42,613 Speaker 5: Yeah, bit of a combination I think was for me 159 00:09:45,213 --> 00:09:48,653 Speaker 5: things like sort of intimate grounds their rugby grounds, really, 160 00:09:48,653 --> 00:09:52,253 Speaker 5: aren't they, or Napier certainly is. It's an odd shape, 161 00:09:53,533 --> 00:09:57,653 Speaker 5: big hitting lower order for the West Indies. And also 162 00:09:57,773 --> 00:10:00,173 Speaker 5: batting with a you know, with a batsman who had 163 00:10:00,173 --> 00:10:02,573 Speaker 5: been in for some time so he could control things, 164 00:10:04,453 --> 00:10:07,733 Speaker 5: and some inconsistent deliveries that we've seen, you know, they're 165 00:10:07,773 --> 00:10:10,973 Speaker 5: trying to do things. I like the way that Santner 166 00:10:11,053 --> 00:10:14,013 Speaker 5: goes to his bowler when he's in trouble and just 167 00:10:14,173 --> 00:10:16,893 Speaker 5: clears his mind. And they obviously discuss what sort of 168 00:10:16,933 --> 00:10:19,893 Speaker 5: ball is going to be next, and Santana can adjust 169 00:10:19,893 --> 00:10:24,253 Speaker 5: the field because of that. But they're just not delivering it, 170 00:10:24,293 --> 00:10:27,733 Speaker 5: are they? If it's just you know, Jamison seems to 171 00:10:27,773 --> 00:10:32,253 Speaker 5: go slower balls at the end. Henry tried last night 172 00:10:32,613 --> 00:10:35,973 Speaker 5: to go Yorkers and was missing those and getting full tosses, 173 00:10:36,093 --> 00:10:39,853 Speaker 5: wasn't he. So it's just the consistency of that, I think, 174 00:10:41,493 --> 00:10:44,093 Speaker 5: And it's and it can be quite costly. I thought 175 00:10:44,173 --> 00:10:47,013 Speaker 5: that the West Indies have pushed New Zealand twice now 176 00:10:47,053 --> 00:10:50,173 Speaker 5: and two tight finishes. I mean, it didn't feel like 177 00:10:50,213 --> 00:10:52,453 Speaker 5: a five wicket win really did it last night? 178 00:10:56,133 --> 00:11:02,693 Speaker 2: But credit to the Hope good Knock I have played well. 179 00:11:02,853 --> 00:11:05,773 Speaker 4: Isn't isn't isn't he a bit of an enigma? 180 00:11:05,933 --> 00:11:08,053 Speaker 5: Or we met that? 181 00:11:08,453 --> 00:11:10,973 Speaker 4: I bet it superbly last night. Here's a guy who's 182 00:11:10,973 --> 00:11:14,733 Speaker 4: got six thousand runs. He's done it quicker than anybody 183 00:11:14,853 --> 00:11:19,533 Speaker 4: in the West Indies than Verv, even quicker than Brian Lara, 184 00:11:19,893 --> 00:11:22,893 Speaker 4: and he bettered superbly. What is wrong with the West 185 00:11:22,893 --> 00:11:26,613 Speaker 4: Indies game that we don't see that on a consistent basis. 186 00:11:27,533 --> 00:11:31,533 Speaker 2: Well, he came, he came to notice some two or 187 00:11:31,573 --> 00:11:34,733 Speaker 2: three years ago or maybe I'm just losing tracks as 188 00:11:34,773 --> 00:11:38,093 Speaker 2: a real start in England. If I can recall and 189 00:11:39,453 --> 00:11:43,013 Speaker 2: and look to be the you know, the new good thing. 190 00:11:43,773 --> 00:11:47,653 Speaker 2: The guy's got talent. But your evidence from the last 191 00:11:49,213 --> 00:11:53,333 Speaker 2: series against Australia in the West Indies their bowling attacked, 192 00:11:53,333 --> 00:11:56,413 Speaker 2: heared Australia up, but they just couldn't get runs. And 193 00:11:56,493 --> 00:11:59,333 Speaker 2: yet you've got this sort of talent there, latent talent 194 00:11:59,413 --> 00:12:02,293 Speaker 2: which came out today, but it just it doesn't come 195 00:12:02,453 --> 00:12:06,653 Speaker 2: through consistently enough by the look boll. I've just got 196 00:12:06,693 --> 00:12:08,253 Speaker 2: to say good innings. 197 00:12:09,493 --> 00:12:13,293 Speaker 5: Yep, don't add too much. Actually, wadds. I don't none 198 00:12:13,333 --> 00:12:17,173 Speaker 5: of us quite know. Why is it West Indian pictures 199 00:12:17,213 --> 00:12:20,853 Speaker 5: that are more difficult. We saw the way that Australia struggled, 200 00:12:20,933 --> 00:12:23,453 Speaker 5: you know over there, and also the West Indies in 201 00:12:23,493 --> 00:12:27,893 Speaker 5: that recent Test series very low scores. I don't know 202 00:12:28,013 --> 00:12:31,333 Speaker 5: about the Batsmen whether that's some of the reason, whether 203 00:12:31,413 --> 00:12:33,693 Speaker 5: some of them are more interested in the cash. We 204 00:12:33,813 --> 00:12:37,813 Speaker 5: know that and are giving the longer formats, and even 205 00:12:37,813 --> 00:12:41,093 Speaker 5: ODI's is regarded as a longer formats. I think for 206 00:12:41,173 --> 00:12:44,053 Speaker 5: some of the West Indies now that they just don't 207 00:12:44,053 --> 00:12:47,373 Speaker 5: they're not interested in batting time. They can have frivolous 208 00:12:47,453 --> 00:12:50,573 Speaker 5: little twenty fives bit of luck thrown in might be 209 00:12:50,653 --> 00:12:55,053 Speaker 5: thirty and then you earn your next gig. They're not 210 00:12:55,173 --> 00:12:58,293 Speaker 5: quite so permitted. I don't think to the longer, longest 211 00:12:58,293 --> 00:13:02,293 Speaker 5: format of all. Don't know other than those thoughts and. 212 00:13:02,853 --> 00:13:06,373 Speaker 2: Also the state of there, wik it's having looked at 213 00:13:06,373 --> 00:13:09,693 Speaker 2: that whoever it was a few months back, didn't look great. 214 00:13:09,853 --> 00:13:13,733 Speaker 2: It just looked very very hard work, especially when you've 215 00:13:13,773 --> 00:13:17,693 Speaker 2: got and now Western's have got a very very useful 216 00:13:17,733 --> 00:13:22,173 Speaker 2: pace bowling quartel. We don't have the chosen with us 217 00:13:22,333 --> 00:13:25,773 Speaker 2: very good. But you know, when you've got start running 218 00:13:25,813 --> 00:13:29,653 Speaker 2: in on on on less than ideal wickets, that's no, 219 00:13:29,973 --> 00:13:34,373 Speaker 2: that's no easy feat. So yeah, you've got to give 220 00:13:34,373 --> 00:13:36,973 Speaker 2: them some sort of slack there. But it'll make for 221 00:13:37,013 --> 00:13:39,973 Speaker 2: an interesting look this upcoming series. 222 00:13:39,973 --> 00:13:44,573 Speaker 4: Brian, Yeah, most definitely will, and the final ode I 223 00:13:44,653 --> 00:13:47,573 Speaker 4: will be played in Hamilton of little interest. We've won 224 00:13:47,613 --> 00:13:50,693 Speaker 4: that series, but we will be looking at a Test 225 00:13:50,773 --> 00:13:56,493 Speaker 4: side next week and I put some names together and 226 00:13:56,573 --> 00:13:58,693 Speaker 4: I don't know how you guys feel about it, but 227 00:13:58,733 --> 00:14:00,933 Speaker 4: it seems as though in New Zealand are probably going 228 00:14:00,973 --> 00:14:02,013 Speaker 4: to do what England have done. 229 00:14:02,013 --> 00:14:03,413 Speaker 3: Pick a predictable side. 230 00:14:03,853 --> 00:14:07,813 Speaker 4: To me, I think there's real certainties there and it 231 00:14:08,133 --> 00:14:14,373 Speaker 4: is Latham, Conway, Williamson, Ravendra, Mitchell, Blundele. A slight question 232 00:14:14,493 --> 00:14:19,933 Speaker 4: mark Santna, Henry Duffy, Jamison is is that a fair 233 00:14:19,973 --> 00:14:21,413 Speaker 4: makeup for the test? 234 00:14:21,493 --> 00:14:22,093 Speaker 3: So well? 235 00:14:22,173 --> 00:14:22,453 Speaker 2: For me? 236 00:14:23,173 --> 00:14:25,533 Speaker 5: I agree with down to Mitchell. I think I agree 237 00:14:25,533 --> 00:14:28,333 Speaker 5: with you with Blundell. I think there are a few questions. 238 00:14:29,013 --> 00:14:33,453 Speaker 5: I'm assuming what it would be Hay as a possibility 239 00:14:33,573 --> 00:14:36,173 Speaker 5: to go in there, I don't know. I think probably 240 00:14:36,173 --> 00:14:39,693 Speaker 5: Blundle will get the first couple of tests. Satny. Yes, 241 00:14:40,213 --> 00:14:43,613 Speaker 5: Bracewell doesn't seem to me to be quite in his 242 00:14:43,733 --> 00:14:47,133 Speaker 5: best form at the moment, certainly with the bat he's 243 00:14:47,213 --> 00:14:50,773 Speaker 5: not getting many overs even in the ode eyes. The 244 00:14:50,773 --> 00:14:53,293 Speaker 5: only name I would throw in with the Seamas Wadds 245 00:14:53,293 --> 00:14:59,613 Speaker 5: would be folks with the West Indies top three if 246 00:14:59,613 --> 00:15:04,773 Speaker 5: it's Campbell, Chanderpaul Athenay's or left handers poached and swing 247 00:15:04,853 --> 00:15:09,253 Speaker 5: that away from them, so that might be might be 248 00:15:09,373 --> 00:15:13,173 Speaker 5: a thought that they will have so the rest, and 249 00:15:13,373 --> 00:15:15,893 Speaker 5: I guess Henry will be there and perhaps Jamison with 250 00:15:16,053 --> 00:15:19,413 Speaker 5: tall swing would probably be there, so it'll be the 251 00:15:19,493 --> 00:15:20,853 Speaker 5: folks Duffy question. 252 00:15:21,013 --> 00:15:26,013 Speaker 2: I think pity that Young isn't giving the selectors enough 253 00:15:26,213 --> 00:15:30,213 Speaker 2: to think about. I mean, brilliantly in India last year, 254 00:15:30,533 --> 00:15:32,053 Speaker 2: was Man of the Series. 255 00:15:32,653 --> 00:15:36,333 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's he's out of form, Moose isn't he So 256 00:15:36,813 --> 00:15:40,533 Speaker 5: that's been the problem for Young. I think. I don't 257 00:15:40,773 --> 00:15:44,293 Speaker 5: think in the context of Conway, who was struggling, who's 258 00:15:44,373 --> 00:15:48,613 Speaker 5: now recently found form. I think they'll probably go Conway 259 00:15:48,733 --> 00:15:51,693 Speaker 5: even though he isn't I know, Moose likes the fact 260 00:15:51,693 --> 00:15:56,213 Speaker 5: that he's he's not contractor and therefore, you know, should 261 00:15:56,333 --> 00:15:59,813 Speaker 5: that should come into the decision making process. But I 262 00:15:59,853 --> 00:16:01,693 Speaker 5: don't think they will Wads No. 263 00:16:02,093 --> 00:16:05,013 Speaker 4: I mean there's the likes of Nathan Smith as a 264 00:16:05,053 --> 00:16:10,053 Speaker 4: possibility as well. I mean, he'll probably make the squad. Phillips, 265 00:16:10,173 --> 00:16:13,133 Speaker 4: I don't know that he had enough cricket to make 266 00:16:13,213 --> 00:16:16,933 Speaker 4: himself a viable option. You know, you talk about Phillips, 267 00:16:16,933 --> 00:16:19,093 Speaker 4: you're also talking about Bracewell, aren't you, in terms of 268 00:16:20,693 --> 00:16:24,573 Speaker 4: their abilities to add to the squad but perhaps not 269 00:16:24,653 --> 00:16:25,773 Speaker 4: be in the Test team. 270 00:16:26,293 --> 00:16:29,253 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're probably right. Phillips was that his 271 00:16:29,253 --> 00:16:34,333 Speaker 5: first game against Wellington. I don't think after those long partnerships. 272 00:16:34,333 --> 00:16:37,413 Speaker 5: He would regard that as a success. He might have 273 00:16:37,453 --> 00:16:39,333 Speaker 5: got a wicked or two. I didn't see. I know 274 00:16:39,413 --> 00:16:43,533 Speaker 5: they tago Bold Wellington out yesterday, which was a disappointment 275 00:16:43,533 --> 00:16:46,253 Speaker 5: for Wellington on top of their bowling. Yeah, I think 276 00:16:46,253 --> 00:16:48,213 Speaker 5: you're right. I think it may be just a little 277 00:16:48,213 --> 00:16:51,893 Speaker 5: bit late for him to make that side. He might 278 00:16:51,973 --> 00:16:55,053 Speaker 5: go around the group, but I don't see him being 279 00:16:55,173 --> 00:16:59,453 Speaker 5: selected myself in that first or probably the first two tests. 280 00:16:59,773 --> 00:17:03,773 Speaker 4: Yeah, and your point Duffy and the folks that you 281 00:17:03,813 --> 00:17:07,093 Speaker 4: see them in contention. I mean I see Duffy as 282 00:17:07,093 --> 00:17:08,013 Speaker 4: a good opportunity. 283 00:17:08,413 --> 00:17:11,693 Speaker 5: Well, he bowls his out swing. Jamison can do that, 284 00:17:13,093 --> 00:17:15,533 Speaker 5: and also a little bit of in swing as well. Canti. 285 00:17:16,533 --> 00:17:20,613 Speaker 5: I just thought that folks say will get that in 286 00:17:20,813 --> 00:17:23,453 Speaker 5: swinger going, which will make it difficult for that top 287 00:17:23,573 --> 00:17:27,093 Speaker 5: three if those are the selection, all being left hand 288 00:17:27,133 --> 00:17:29,893 Speaker 5: as they've got two more other left handers lower in 289 00:17:29,973 --> 00:17:33,293 Speaker 5: the order. And also he can hold a battley but 290 00:17:33,453 --> 00:17:38,573 Speaker 5: can't he and useful in the park. So I just look, 291 00:17:38,973 --> 00:17:41,253 Speaker 5: it's a close one. It's a close one. 292 00:17:41,653 --> 00:17:44,653 Speaker 2: This series is an opportunity actually to do something with 293 00:17:44,693 --> 00:17:49,613 Speaker 2: an eye to the future, much as he's got a 294 00:17:49,613 --> 00:17:53,133 Speaker 2: good record, but Henry Nichols is not the future, and 295 00:17:53,173 --> 00:17:57,453 Speaker 2: I'd love to see some experimentation or some new players 296 00:17:57,453 --> 00:18:02,293 Speaker 2: like Mario who brilliantly against the South African elevens. Let's 297 00:18:02,333 --> 00:18:06,133 Speaker 2: see someone like that come in. Jerry mentioned folks that 298 00:18:06,173 --> 00:18:10,853 Speaker 2: would be ideal. This is a chance because against a 299 00:18:10,933 --> 00:18:13,973 Speaker 2: lesser nation, shall we say, than performance in terms of Wisdernies, 300 00:18:14,493 --> 00:18:17,773 Speaker 2: now's an opportunity to blood some new people. 301 00:18:17,853 --> 00:18:22,173 Speaker 4: I think yes, indeed, I mean Henry Nichols came in 302 00:18:22,333 --> 00:18:26,253 Speaker 4: and scored runs at domestic level and he came into 303 00:18:26,293 --> 00:18:28,893 Speaker 4: the squad for the short form game. Remember he scored 304 00:18:28,893 --> 00:18:30,853 Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty in his last tested things and 305 00:18:30,853 --> 00:18:33,293 Speaker 4: his last testings in New Zealand he got a double hundred. 306 00:18:34,013 --> 00:18:38,373 Speaker 4: I know, yes Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, etc. But you know 307 00:18:39,613 --> 00:18:42,173 Speaker 4: others weren't doing it. So I mean, he's got ten 308 00:18:42,773 --> 00:18:46,693 Speaker 4: test hundreds. But you're right. I think we have to 309 00:18:46,733 --> 00:18:52,213 Speaker 4: start looking at the future. And you're right in terms 310 00:18:52,253 --> 00:18:56,293 Speaker 4: of players that you mentioned all one player, particularly Murray 311 00:18:56,333 --> 00:19:01,133 Speaker 4: who opened for the side in South Africa. He's captain 312 00:19:01,173 --> 00:19:04,293 Speaker 4: in Canterbury at the moment, a young man and we 313 00:19:04,373 --> 00:19:05,533 Speaker 4: know he's got plenty of talent. 314 00:19:06,373 --> 00:19:09,453 Speaker 5: Yeah, I look, I say think that there is an 315 00:19:09,453 --> 00:19:14,413 Speaker 5: opportunity there. I don't think they'll necessarily and we'll find 316 00:19:14,413 --> 00:19:18,533 Speaker 5: out about Rob Walter, won't we his his views on 317 00:19:18,693 --> 00:19:23,933 Speaker 5: introducing use and keeping the movement that seems to have 318 00:19:23,973 --> 00:19:27,573 Speaker 5: gained a bit of momentum through our a team keep 319 00:19:27,613 --> 00:19:33,413 Speaker 5: that going. I'm not sure though, will they Will they 320 00:19:33,653 --> 00:19:39,613 Speaker 5: kick Conway now that he's back in some form, will 321 00:19:39,653 --> 00:19:41,813 Speaker 5: they you know, push him aside? 322 00:19:42,453 --> 00:19:44,733 Speaker 2: I think he's making it hard because he actually has 323 00:19:44,773 --> 00:19:48,373 Speaker 2: come into some sort of form, decent form actually and 324 00:19:49,693 --> 00:19:51,733 Speaker 2: looking at it. But I still have the question mark 325 00:19:51,773 --> 00:19:54,773 Speaker 2: that you know what, what's coming up in the next 326 00:19:54,813 --> 00:20:00,253 Speaker 2: eighty months. His technical deficiencies that have been apparent, I 327 00:20:00,733 --> 00:20:03,413 Speaker 2: wonder whether they've gone away and you're going to get 328 00:20:03,413 --> 00:20:07,413 Speaker 2: found out. So question mark remains there. But as I 329 00:20:07,453 --> 00:20:10,213 Speaker 2: said before, pretty young hasn't really put the runs on 330 00:20:10,253 --> 00:20:13,213 Speaker 2: the ball when it has been given opportunities. Because technically 331 00:20:13,293 --> 00:20:16,093 Speaker 2: he surely is one of our most proficient players. 332 00:20:17,133 --> 00:20:18,853 Speaker 4: Well, it looks like Bruce Edgar might have to get 333 00:20:18,893 --> 00:20:23,733 Speaker 4: back and help Devin Conway because if he's got those deficiencies, 334 00:20:23,733 --> 00:20:25,373 Speaker 4: they've been around for a while and I think we've 335 00:20:25,373 --> 00:20:30,373 Speaker 4: all noticed that that weakness that Conway has, so you 336 00:20:30,413 --> 00:20:36,853 Speaker 4: know that's something for them to search and try and repair. 337 00:20:37,293 --> 00:20:42,813 Speaker 3: Brian Waddell Jeremy Coney on the front foot talking about predictable. 338 00:20:44,253 --> 00:20:47,173 Speaker 4: Did we all pick the twelve in England have picked 339 00:20:47,173 --> 00:20:49,373 Speaker 4: for the first ashes? I got them. 340 00:20:53,733 --> 00:20:57,253 Speaker 2: I think it was quite predictable, and it's been. It's been, 341 00:20:57,773 --> 00:21:01,453 Speaker 2: it's been sort of foreshadowed for quite for some time, 342 00:21:03,373 --> 00:21:06,653 Speaker 2: and she was are we looking forward to. 343 00:21:06,613 --> 00:21:10,413 Speaker 4: It most definitely? Shahbashir will be the twelfth man Wady Jerry. 344 00:21:10,853 --> 00:21:14,173 Speaker 5: I would think so. Wad's given that it will be 345 00:21:14,213 --> 00:21:18,133 Speaker 5: at Perth this first Test match, not at the Whacker, 346 00:21:18,173 --> 00:21:21,413 Speaker 5: of course, the Optus which is close by, but it's 347 00:21:21,453 --> 00:21:25,973 Speaker 5: still I saw. I think a one day match was 348 00:21:26,053 --> 00:21:29,933 Speaker 5: being played there and it certainly had the bounce and 349 00:21:29,973 --> 00:21:35,773 Speaker 5: the pace associated with the Whacker, So that'll be interesting. 350 00:21:35,813 --> 00:21:39,973 Speaker 5: And it's also interesting, isn't it that England had their 351 00:21:41,013 --> 00:21:45,373 Speaker 5: one effort at warm up at Lilac Hill, which is 352 00:21:45,493 --> 00:21:51,173 Speaker 5: quite slow and flat and very different from what I've 353 00:21:51,253 --> 00:21:56,773 Speaker 5: just described. I think that they will confront on Friday, 354 00:21:56,973 --> 00:22:00,253 Speaker 5: so yeah, but I don't think there's in change. They're 355 00:22:00,293 --> 00:22:03,493 Speaker 5: clearly going to go in with all the pace. I 356 00:22:03,533 --> 00:22:06,013 Speaker 5: don't know what you guys think. That just seems to 357 00:22:06,053 --> 00:22:14,573 Speaker 5: me both these side have a fragility about them and 358 00:22:14,893 --> 00:22:20,773 Speaker 5: it could be described as kind of slightly suspect. Top 359 00:22:20,853 --> 00:22:26,373 Speaker 5: three in both sides some doubts, you know, for Auckland, 360 00:22:26,653 --> 00:22:31,213 Speaker 5: sorry for Australia, a thirty one year old on debut 361 00:22:31,813 --> 00:22:36,053 Speaker 5: and a thirty eight year old who's going to be 362 00:22:36,093 --> 00:22:39,613 Speaker 5: thirty nine and the third Test, you know, that's going 363 00:22:39,653 --> 00:22:43,013 Speaker 5: to be interesting to see how he goes against real pace. 364 00:22:44,453 --> 00:22:48,173 Speaker 5: And then of course Lavishane who's batted very well recently 365 00:22:48,213 --> 00:22:51,973 Speaker 5: and stacked up some runs. And then of course you've 366 00:22:52,013 --> 00:22:55,933 Speaker 5: got some bowlers, bowlers for both sides, some of them 367 00:22:55,973 --> 00:22:59,213 Speaker 5: who are already injured and some of them who could 368 00:22:59,293 --> 00:23:04,853 Speaker 5: break down any moment, because Woods hasn't played virtually all season. 369 00:23:05,413 --> 00:23:08,013 Speaker 5: He played he bowled what eight overs at Lilac Hill 370 00:23:08,013 --> 00:23:10,973 Speaker 5: and then pulled up with a bit of a hamstring problem. 371 00:23:11,773 --> 00:23:14,293 Speaker 5: And then you've got Archer, who has played two Tests 372 00:23:14,293 --> 00:23:17,853 Speaker 5: in three years. You know, a lot of work perhaps 373 00:23:17,893 --> 00:23:22,133 Speaker 5: for Cars and for Atkinson to do the bulk of 374 00:23:22,253 --> 00:23:26,093 Speaker 5: the of the bowling. Stokes will obviously come in there intends, 375 00:23:26,173 --> 00:23:29,333 Speaker 5: if anything, to over bowl himself, and then you've got 376 00:23:29,373 --> 00:23:34,213 Speaker 5: the comparison with Green who's had problems and maybe underbolt. 377 00:23:35,053 --> 00:23:40,253 Speaker 5: So it's quite it's quite interesting the two sides. When 378 00:23:40,253 --> 00:23:44,053 Speaker 5: you look at those two factors, I think that are 379 00:23:44,133 --> 00:23:44,733 Speaker 5: about them. 380 00:23:46,253 --> 00:23:49,173 Speaker 2: Jerry, you use the word fragility, and I think that's 381 00:23:49,333 --> 00:23:54,453 Speaker 2: very apt. The way that I look at this series 382 00:23:54,573 --> 00:23:59,533 Speaker 2: is one of who can keep or get their bowlers 383 00:23:59,573 --> 00:24:03,013 Speaker 2: and keep them on the park for as long as possible, 384 00:24:03,133 --> 00:24:07,293 Speaker 2: because there are certainly match winners and when going well, 385 00:24:09,013 --> 00:24:12,373 Speaker 2: they can beat either side. Be that would be that Archer, 386 00:24:13,013 --> 00:24:17,093 Speaker 2: be that stark Hazel with a tweet hamstring comes Wen's 387 00:24:17,133 --> 00:24:20,173 Speaker 2: he back. But with that, if if they can't keep 388 00:24:20,213 --> 00:24:23,933 Speaker 2: them on the on the park, then it becomes much 389 00:24:23,973 --> 00:24:25,933 Speaker 2: more unclear to me as to quite how it's going 390 00:24:25,973 --> 00:24:29,853 Speaker 2: to play out. And you're right again, the top orders 391 00:24:30,013 --> 00:24:33,493 Speaker 2: both seem quite fragile. And it's interesting that Australia are 392 00:24:33,493 --> 00:24:37,853 Speaker 2: looking at bring maybe two players and weather Or and Doggett, 393 00:24:37,933 --> 00:24:40,893 Speaker 2: and both of them in their early thirties. Okay, they're 394 00:24:40,933 --> 00:24:45,893 Speaker 2: experienced first clas players, but it's just this there's some 395 00:24:46,013 --> 00:24:48,613 Speaker 2: there's some there's some searching around isn't there in the 396 00:24:48,653 --> 00:24:52,653 Speaker 2: Australian team as to who's going to make make up 397 00:24:52,773 --> 00:24:55,373 Speaker 2: and come into the site. You know, I wondered where 398 00:24:55,493 --> 00:24:59,373 Speaker 2: guys like Marcus Harris have gone. McSweeney who they've tested 399 00:24:59,453 --> 00:25:07,453 Speaker 2: earlier at opening is the guy from Queensland Renshaw. There's 400 00:25:07,453 --> 00:25:10,733 Speaker 2: all these players come and gone, no more to be seen. 401 00:25:11,973 --> 00:25:15,013 Speaker 2: But the one thing that I think does tell is 402 00:25:15,013 --> 00:25:19,173 Speaker 2: that the the Australians have actually been playing four day 403 00:25:19,213 --> 00:25:24,493 Speaker 2: first class cricket. That counts for a lot and I 404 00:25:24,293 --> 00:25:28,053 Speaker 2: and okay, England have been planning for this for for 405 00:25:27,413 --> 00:25:32,893 Speaker 2: for several years. But you're right, Jerry lina Hill is 406 00:25:32,933 --> 00:25:37,173 Speaker 2: not the whacker or or or of this oval. They 407 00:25:37,213 --> 00:25:41,733 Speaker 2: could could find themselves undone that you know in Test one. 408 00:25:42,693 --> 00:25:45,293 Speaker 5: What do you think was I mean? I mean for me, 409 00:25:47,613 --> 00:25:49,693 Speaker 5: I think if you could play, if you could manage 410 00:25:49,733 --> 00:25:53,653 Speaker 5: three tests out of the five for Wood, you'd have 411 00:25:53,693 --> 00:25:54,493 Speaker 5: done brilliantly. 412 00:25:55,213 --> 00:26:00,213 Speaker 4: And Archer, he's always getting injured and stuff. Cast is 413 00:26:00,293 --> 00:26:05,853 Speaker 4: the one man who can hold together Atkinson's they're waiting 414 00:26:05,933 --> 00:26:09,813 Speaker 4: to to to play his part. I mean, he's named 415 00:26:09,893 --> 00:26:15,133 Speaker 4: in their selection. So you know it is an issue 416 00:26:15,213 --> 00:26:20,413 Speaker 4: in terms of fitness and the point that Nurse made 417 00:26:20,453 --> 00:26:23,013 Speaker 4: about the fact that the Ossies have been playing Sheffield 418 00:26:23,053 --> 00:26:26,373 Speaker 4: Shell cricket. Remember when New Zealand went to a perst 419 00:26:26,413 --> 00:26:29,413 Speaker 4: to play that day night game and we all had 420 00:26:29,453 --> 00:26:31,853 Speaker 4: a bit of a holiday and we need ten days 421 00:26:31,893 --> 00:26:36,453 Speaker 4: off and we got our backside spanked by the Ossies 422 00:26:36,493 --> 00:26:38,853 Speaker 4: because you've got to go and you know, Jerry, you've 423 00:26:38,853 --> 00:26:42,693 Speaker 4: got to have a bit of experience in Ossie conditions, 424 00:26:42,693 --> 00:26:45,293 Speaker 4: a bit of hard experience to build up for a 425 00:26:45,333 --> 00:26:48,613 Speaker 4: Test match, and I don't think England have got it. 426 00:26:48,653 --> 00:26:50,693 Speaker 4: I think they've got a good side and they're pretty 427 00:26:50,733 --> 00:26:54,773 Speaker 4: even those sides, but I just wonder about their build 428 00:26:54,853 --> 00:26:57,573 Speaker 4: up for the series. You know, pace bowling doesn't do 429 00:26:57,613 --> 00:26:59,533 Speaker 4: it all, does it well. 430 00:27:00,813 --> 00:27:03,973 Speaker 5: I mean England are hoping so, aren't they. They're not 431 00:27:04,013 --> 00:27:09,333 Speaker 5: going to play a spinner really so, And that's an 432 00:27:09,373 --> 00:27:12,373 Speaker 5: interesting point. I mean, if you look at spin in 433 00:27:12,453 --> 00:27:20,653 Speaker 5: the series, lion is really a point of difference for Australia. 434 00:27:21,213 --> 00:27:24,453 Speaker 5: England probably won't bowl too many overs of spin. I 435 00:27:24,493 --> 00:27:28,773 Speaker 5: don't think they'll have to at some point surely. But 436 00:27:30,013 --> 00:27:32,293 Speaker 5: the other point is that Lion's going to be crucial 437 00:27:32,813 --> 00:27:37,613 Speaker 5: in bowling overs to enable the likes of Stark to 438 00:27:37,733 --> 00:27:43,653 Speaker 5: become fresh again. And can their batsmen bat long enough 439 00:27:43,693 --> 00:27:48,853 Speaker 5: Australia in order to give their bowlers a rest. Same 440 00:27:48,933 --> 00:27:53,693 Speaker 5: for England, can their bolt batsmen keep the Aussies out 441 00:27:53,733 --> 00:27:56,973 Speaker 5: there long enough and give their about bowlers arrest too? 442 00:27:57,133 --> 00:28:00,093 Speaker 5: So that's that's going to be a really important thing. 443 00:28:00,093 --> 00:28:06,213 Speaker 5: And can Brook versus Lion it's a very important matchup 444 00:28:06,773 --> 00:28:12,333 Speaker 5: because he'll try and take line down and maybe Root 445 00:28:12,573 --> 00:28:17,373 Speaker 5: as well, but he'll be more manipulative about it. Maybe 446 00:28:17,453 --> 00:28:21,413 Speaker 5: Crawley's right handers, and they will try and change a 447 00:28:21,493 --> 00:28:24,213 Speaker 5: four or five field four on the off, five on 448 00:28:24,253 --> 00:28:27,573 Speaker 5: the on to a three six take the slip out. 449 00:28:27,973 --> 00:28:30,733 Speaker 5: They might have to drop people around the bat where 450 00:28:30,813 --> 00:28:35,173 Speaker 5: Lyon relies on those people and if that starts happening, 451 00:28:35,813 --> 00:28:38,213 Speaker 5: keep an eye on that, that will be advantage England. 452 00:28:38,933 --> 00:28:43,453 Speaker 5: So that's an interesting whole scenario. I think that could 453 00:28:43,493 --> 00:28:44,813 Speaker 5: play out in this series. 454 00:28:45,853 --> 00:28:47,973 Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, I'm going to buy them a second bouncer 455 00:28:48,013 --> 00:28:50,333 Speaker 4: in the over now too, because we've just about time 456 00:28:50,413 --> 00:28:56,293 Speaker 4: to finish here and it's directed at the BCCI and 457 00:28:56,453 --> 00:28:58,253 Speaker 4: their cricket pitchers. 458 00:28:58,013 --> 00:29:01,853 Speaker 3: On the front foot and here he goes the bouncer. 459 00:29:02,493 --> 00:29:05,213 Speaker 4: What a load of garbage. That was for a Test 460 00:29:05,253 --> 00:29:09,493 Speaker 4: match Eden Gardens, one of the iconic cricket rounds. It 461 00:29:09,613 --> 00:29:12,573 Speaker 4: wasn't fit to graze cattle on as far as I'm concerned. 462 00:29:12,813 --> 00:29:16,133 Speaker 4: Jason Gillespie put up on a personal opinion. He said, 463 00:29:16,173 --> 00:29:19,053 Speaker 4: why don't they allow curators the opportunity to prepare the 464 00:29:19,093 --> 00:29:23,293 Speaker 4: best possible surface? They can no expectations from the home team, 465 00:29:23,413 --> 00:29:26,133 Speaker 4: prepare a service to suit them. Sadly, it's been going 466 00:29:26,173 --> 00:29:29,093 Speaker 4: on since time began, hasn't it? Preparation of pictures to 467 00:29:29,133 --> 00:29:31,773 Speaker 4: seat yourself and it's not going to change. But it 468 00:29:31,813 --> 00:29:34,133 Speaker 4: doesn't do the game of Test cricket any good, does it. 469 00:29:35,013 --> 00:29:38,813 Speaker 2: I watched it with a certain degree of glee as 470 00:29:38,853 --> 00:29:42,693 Speaker 2: they went down. I really I quite enjoyed seeing is 471 00:29:42,693 --> 00:29:45,733 Speaker 2: that this guy Harmer who's journey. 472 00:29:46,813 --> 00:29:48,493 Speaker 4: He plays county most of the time, doesn't he? 473 00:29:49,373 --> 00:29:50,093 Speaker 5: Yeah? Essex. 474 00:29:50,613 --> 00:29:55,173 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was in bolve beautifully and under the Indian bats. 475 00:29:55,173 --> 00:29:58,933 Speaker 2: But I just thought, God, they are a pretty useful 476 00:29:59,453 --> 00:30:03,173 Speaker 2: Test side South Africa, aren't they. They got some tough 477 00:30:03,173 --> 00:30:05,733 Speaker 2: people in there and they didn't have probably their best 478 00:30:05,773 --> 00:30:12,693 Speaker 2: bowler out there. Now, I it's lamentable that the game 479 00:30:12,773 --> 00:30:17,893 Speaker 2: finishes in about two and a half days. But but 480 00:30:18,373 --> 00:30:21,333 Speaker 2: it was it was in some ways quite an interesting 481 00:30:21,893 --> 00:30:25,573 Speaker 2: and enjoyable victory for South Africa. 482 00:30:25,653 --> 00:30:28,373 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we love that, even though it was South 483 00:30:28,373 --> 00:30:30,693 Speaker 4: Africa exactly. 484 00:30:32,133 --> 00:30:35,133 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, Well, when you get a pitch like that, 485 00:30:35,253 --> 00:30:39,093 Speaker 5: you know, the balance between bat and ball swings wildly 486 00:30:39,133 --> 00:30:42,933 Speaker 5: in favor of the bowl as, doesn't it. So batsmen 487 00:30:43,013 --> 00:30:46,813 Speaker 5: have to really approach their innings. It's hard enough staying 488 00:30:46,853 --> 00:30:50,333 Speaker 5: in and you've got to get runs. Runs matter, and 489 00:30:50,453 --> 00:30:54,333 Speaker 5: so you know, you've you've got to take some risks 490 00:30:54,773 --> 00:30:57,533 Speaker 5: and got to work out what shots you can actually play. 491 00:30:57,773 --> 00:31:00,733 Speaker 5: And what it does really it brings teams closer together 492 00:31:02,773 --> 00:31:06,573 Speaker 5: and superior players are reduced to the level of the 493 00:31:06,613 --> 00:31:10,693 Speaker 5: average player and that makes a huge difference, you know, 494 00:31:10,733 --> 00:31:14,293 Speaker 5: and innings of fifty as it happened from Bavooma was 495 00:31:14,333 --> 00:31:18,173 Speaker 5: a major difference. And you know they used to applaud 496 00:31:18,293 --> 00:31:22,173 Speaker 5: twenty fives in India when I played, So, I mean 497 00:31:22,213 --> 00:31:25,653 Speaker 5: it just shows you what the pitchers can be like. 498 00:31:25,733 --> 00:31:28,893 Speaker 5: And I mean home advantage has become a way for 499 00:31:29,013 --> 00:31:32,573 Speaker 5: sides to score points in the World Test Championship twelve 500 00:31:32,653 --> 00:31:35,453 Speaker 5: points for a win, four points for a draw, there's 501 00:31:35,493 --> 00:31:39,893 Speaker 5: a hell of a difference between those. So nowadays most 502 00:31:39,893 --> 00:31:45,453 Speaker 5: teams do it, and it's something that if the ICC 503 00:31:45,653 --> 00:31:49,573 Speaker 5: don't want to get involved, it's their tournament, then you 504 00:31:49,573 --> 00:31:51,373 Speaker 5: know it's going to continue. It's not going to stop. 505 00:31:52,613 --> 00:31:56,933 Speaker 5: Very watchable, very watchable, I would say, and a lot 506 00:31:56,973 --> 00:31:59,013 Speaker 5: of people would say, bring it on. This is more 507 00:31:59,133 --> 00:32:03,773 Speaker 5: like Test frigate. Well, actually it's not the whole aspect 508 00:32:03,853 --> 00:32:07,213 Speaker 5: of time, which is very important, the whole idea of 509 00:32:07,253 --> 00:32:10,493 Speaker 5: the Test format. There's time to bowl long spells with 510 00:32:10,613 --> 00:32:13,933 Speaker 5: certain bowls. Can you come back? Can you bowl consistently? 511 00:32:13,973 --> 00:32:16,533 Speaker 5: Can you put enough revs on the ball in your 512 00:32:16,613 --> 00:32:21,573 Speaker 5: fourth kind of spell? So all those things are batsman 513 00:32:21,613 --> 00:32:26,213 Speaker 5: who gets and gets one ninety can change again most definitely. 514 00:32:26,533 --> 00:32:29,053 Speaker 4: And I've managed to avoid a sanction from the ICC 515 00:32:29,213 --> 00:32:32,613 Speaker 4: for bowling two bouncers in and over. Neither of them 516 00:32:32,853 --> 00:32:35,053 Speaker 4: really hit their mark, but at least there was a 517 00:32:35,093 --> 00:32:38,413 Speaker 4: point to be made anyway. That brings to an end 518 00:32:38,453 --> 00:32:42,333 Speaker 4: another edition of On the Front Foot. Thank you Peter 519 00:32:42,413 --> 00:32:45,573 Speaker 4: Holland most for your contribution, and of course Jerry, we'll 520 00:32:45,573 --> 00:32:48,853 Speaker 4: be back again next week with another edition of On 521 00:32:48,893 --> 00:32:51,973 Speaker 4: the Front Foot. We'll have the opportunity to review the 522 00:32:52,293 --> 00:32:56,133 Speaker 4: first ashes test boy, is that something to look forward to. 523 00:32:56,453 --> 00:32:58,773 Speaker 4: I'm looking the lips and the thought of what cricket 524 00:32:58,853 --> 00:33:00,933 Speaker 4: is coming up. We've got the Test match in Perth, 525 00:33:01,293 --> 00:33:03,693 Speaker 4: there's the day night event being played in Brisbane, and 526 00:33:03,733 --> 00:33:06,173 Speaker 4: of course we've got our own Test series starting against 527 00:33:06,173 --> 00:33:07,893 Speaker 4: the Western. There's a lot of fun in the head, 528 00:33:08,413 --> 00:33:12,413 Speaker 4: a cricket to be enjoy so why don't we go 529 00:33:12,453 --> 00:33:14,933 Speaker 4: out and get on the front foot and enjoy. 530 00:33:14,733 --> 00:33:20,413 Speaker 2: It all the world a qualities That'summarting do. 531 00:33:25,333 --> 00:33:27,933 Speaker 1: For more from News Talk set B listen live on 532 00:33:28,053 --> 00:33:31,053 Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 533 00:33:31,093 --> 00:33:33,653 Speaker 1: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio