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Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The

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Speaker 1: mic Hosking breakfast with our Veda, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way,

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Speaker 2: He'd be welling you welcome today. Some good news on

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Speaker 2: New Zealand ink one, Kiwi fruits booming and we seem

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Speaker 2: to have some genius going on with methane co two

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Speaker 2: and biomass. Also the Polkinghorn verdict. Did the coppers blow

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Speaker 2: it at the Star Witness the PM does Tuesdays. We've

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Speaker 2: got to look at the lark and genius of Warren

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Speaker 2: and money as in the architecture. Joe's in Europe for

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Speaker 2: us and Rob is doing the business out of the UK. Hosking, Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: seven past six.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: A couple of things interested me with the governments back

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Speaker 2: to work edict yesterday. One we need a back to

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Speaker 2: work edict and the fact we didn't have one till

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Speaker 2: now and two, not surprisingly sadly, the admission no one

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Speaker 2: knows what the hell's going on? Who is where? What

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Speaker 2: percentage of time people aren't there, are there when they are,

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Speaker 2: or aren't compared with any other piece of the public service.

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Speaker 2: What are mickey mouse shambles? The Australians have crunched the numbers.

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Speaker 2: The savings. I told you this the other day. The

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Speaker 2: savings for individuals in terms of money not spent is

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Speaker 2: in the tens of billions of dollars per year per state.

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Speaker 2: They of course have had return to work notices for

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Speaker 2: did their public workers a couple of weeks back. Saving

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Speaker 2: to working at home, right, And I've always thought that

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Speaker 2: this business of teamwork and camaraderie is a bit overstated,

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Speaker 2: and if not overstated, it certainly hard to prove. You

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Speaker 2: bit harder to show what outworkings have been achieved by

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Speaker 2: policy in place. Obviously, Wellington's a mess, but working from

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Speaker 2: clowns who run the city are more responsible, surely, with

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Speaker 2: their determination to destroy any signs of livability. And also,

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Speaker 2: don't forget for every coffee that isn't bought in Lampton Key,

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Speaker 2: this one being purchased in places like Eastbourne anyway. The

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Speaker 2: skiving's over another of these lenient take the mickey out

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Speaker 2: of the COVID year's ideas has been brought to an end,

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Speaker 2: or will be shortly. But you've got to wonder about

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Speaker 2: the government, don't you. All the privates had this sortid

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Speaker 2: no decisions. Everyone's at home for a good long weekend,

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Speaker 2: all pretending its business as usual. Well, the jig is

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Speaker 2: More updates Zelenski's in America tell you more shortly. But

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Speaker 2: in the Middle East, the Israelis are back big time

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Speaker 2: into Lebanon.

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Speaker 4: His Rais had.

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Speaker 5: Carried out more than three hundred hour strikes, predominantly across

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Speaker 5: southern Lebanon at the moment, killing, according to the Lebanese

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Speaker 5: Health Ministry, more than one hundred people. And we assume

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Speaker 5: that civilians are among the.

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Speaker 2: Dad and after they bomb they spin.

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Speaker 6: Krisbela endangers the people of Lebanon. They use civilian civilians

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Speaker 6: as human shields to hide its weaponry and carry out

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Speaker 2: So tired the blake the rounded up outside the golf

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Speaker 2: course looking to cause cannage the other day it turns

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Speaker 7: It does state very queerly in this letter addressed to

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Speaker 7: quote the world saying that this was an assassination attempt

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Speaker 7: on Donald Trump. Ruth is currently only facing there's two

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Speaker 2: Being a bunch of stuff on following in the UK

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Speaker 2: one the nurses are going on strike again.

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Speaker 8: It is always something that we have in our toolkit,

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Speaker 2: Should we ban the term talkkit to the government are

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Speaker 2: having the first post election conferences is the one where

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Speaker 2: you blame the last lot for all your trouble.

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Speaker 9: You'll hear many things that their conference next week, but

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Speaker 9: you won't hear an apology. No apology for the cost

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Speaker 2: And three training a lot. And this poor woman got flooded,

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Speaker 10: I've got no idea how much it's going to cost.

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Speaker 10: But we have found out that there's a clause in

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Speaker 2: No, I don't blame it. Finally, they're anticipating records to

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Speaker 2: be broken in New York when Christie's puts up a

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Speaker 2: Margrite for sale. Rene Magriet is famous for exploring light

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Speaker 2: It'll be a boost to the market which is soft

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Speaker 11: Can you choose.

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Speaker 2: He did several versions of this. The latest was an

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Speaker 2: from the experience Renee and Georgette mcgreet with their dogs

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Speaker 2: after the war, the genius of Paul Simon. Who's more genius,

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Speaker 2: Margret or Paul Simon. There's your questions? Well, and it's past.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned Zelenski's in the States. He arrived yesterday. He's

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Speaker 2: to Tuesday. Good Morning, Mike.

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Speaker 12: The troubles for Fletcher's ever in no, but they look

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Speaker 12: we knew this before the capital rate, that's uncertainty ahead

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Speaker 12: the transaction is split between an institutional placement that's turned

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Speaker 12: an eighty two million so that's the big end of town,

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Speaker 12: and a larger four hundred and eighteen million dollar entitlement office.

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Speaker 12: And Mike, you and I have talked about cost out,

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Speaker 12: you know, this is the the latest thing. Well, they're

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Speaker 2: And they're not the only ones in the market for DOE.

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Speaker 12: how far rates of fall and contact energy. They announced

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Speaker 12: fund their purchase of Manawa Toyota Finance. They also raised

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Speaker 12: It makes interest rates on these deals less attractive for

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Speaker 2: Tot of selling.

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Speaker 12: But the other side of a coin, the borrowers, it

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Speaker 12: So but look, lots of lots of capital raisings.

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Speaker 2: Going on, busy, busy.

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Speaker 12: What are the numbers, right, They're all good, which we

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Speaker 12: like to see that on a Tuesday when the offshore

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Speaker 12: market's kicking and twenty five on the Dow Jones, it's

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Speaker 1: You're Trusted home for News, for Entertainments, Opinion and Mike

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Speaker 1: the Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Jaguar f base cut

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Speaker 2: Mike I worked for Top four bank based in Wellington.

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Speaker 2: We get a new building, which means the clue there,

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Speaker 2: Corporates and no better than the government. The point being

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Speaker 2: though privates can do whatever they like, that's their business,

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Speaker 2: a policy, They've thought about it, they've implemented. The point

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Speaker 2: What absolute rubbish. Twenty three to seven, Joe VI kenn

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day. She's with us shortly. Meantime,

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Speaker 2: Very good news for New Zealand Inc. As our Kiwi

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Speaker 2: Fruit Grows continue to do the heavy lifting. Export values

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Speaker 2: all day long. Chief Executive of New Zealand Kipi Fruit Grows,

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Speaker 2: Ink Colin bonders with us. Colin, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 15: What do you like?

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Speaker 2: Does it feel like you're doing well if you wander

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it absolutely does. Those numbers to August taken the

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Speaker 16: and feedback up here is really positive about our product.

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Speaker 16: So I think this is a start of more good

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Speaker 2: Up in Greece at a conference. Are you working hard colin.

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Speaker 16: Having yes, catch you we grow with some other other

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Speaker 2: What is the situation with these international growers you've got?

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Speaker 16: I think when the industry was put the single test

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Speaker 16: fantastic job of producing that fruit out of New Zealand.

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Speaker 16: But I was speaking to consumers all of the time

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Speaker 16: there's a lot of team growers here in the Northern

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Speaker 2: How is it? And I didn't realize this, and this

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Speaker 2: is my ignorance. Gold is good in China, greens more

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Speaker 16: Green Europeans recognize the health benefits of green and always

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Speaker 2: I reckon? And where's red at and how good could

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Speaker 16: Red from a consumer perspective is excellent. The challenge is

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Speaker 2: What about the trade deals, the deal we've done with Europe,

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Speaker 16: And I say where I mean growers. Those sort of

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, well, good to get. And I always like to

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Speaker 16: it's very bright. People want our products. It's a great

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Speaker 16: I think supporting the journey very well.

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Speaker 2: Said go well, Colin, appreciate it. Colum Bon, who's the

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Speaker 2: I cannot forget about the asparagus. Now here's the headline.

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Speaker 2: Then It's never been cheaper to be healthier, So get

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, carle

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Speaker 2: Talks a B. I should tell you before we get

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Speaker 2: to Joe that all of Schultz, who runs Germany not

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Speaker 2: particularly well but nevertheless is hanging on by the skin

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Speaker 2: of his teeth. He won Brandenburg over the weekend, another

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Speaker 2: one of these regional elections. You remember the AfD A

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. They won in one, came second

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Speaker 2: in another, and there was some real concern that if

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Speaker 2: they won in Brandenburg, Schultz was toast. He's won, but

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Speaker 2: not by much his part. He got thirty one thirty

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Speaker 2: two percent. The AfD got twenty nine to thirty So

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Speaker 2: there's still a force to be reckoned. With sex forty.

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Speaker 3: Five International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 3: mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Now it is Tuesday, but it detraits Bonus Tuesday. Let's

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Speaker 2: call it bonus Tuesday. Joe mckennon's with us eatterly, very

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Speaker 2: good morning to you, Good morning way. I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: a photo currently of Georgia Maloney, who seems to have

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Speaker 2: got some sort of vice like grip on elon Muskin

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Speaker 2: doesn't want to let him go, and she's looked happier

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Speaker 2: than she's ever looked. What an earth is going on?

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Speaker 17: What is going on? They're the best of buddies.

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Speaker 2: At the moment.

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Speaker 17: I think he's due to present her with the Global

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Speaker 17: Citizen Award at a ceremony in New York, if he

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Speaker 17: hasn't done it already. The question is will that mean

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Speaker 17: that he's looking for special favors from Georgia Maloney for

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Speaker 17: his companies in Italy? Uh, not really sure about that

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Speaker 17: at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it funny to think that Georgia Maloney. For all

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Speaker 2: of the critics of GEORGIEA. Maloney, she was far right.

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Speaker 2: She was a crazy Look at her. Now they're handing

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Speaker 2: awards to her as a global citizen.

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Speaker 17: Yes, and she's making all the right noises about working

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Speaker 17: on a multilateral level. We need to work for peace

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Speaker 17: and climb as fight climate change and all the rest

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Speaker 17: of it. At this UN Summit of the Future in

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Speaker 17: New York, talking about crises presenting opportunities. I think many

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Speaker 17: Italians would not be thinking the same way on that

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Speaker 17: front at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the poll, this bloke who quit we talked about

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago the culture minists who had

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Speaker 2: the social media influencer woman, et cetera. Anyway, this has

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Speaker 2: effected the government's polls.

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Speaker 17: It looks like it we're starting to see I mean,

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Speaker 17: I haven't seen a definitive figure, but I'm starting to

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Speaker 17: see some sign in the media that one in three

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Speaker 17: Italians believe that this will weaken Maloney. And this woman

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Speaker 17: who had her eyes on a consultancy in the Cultural

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Speaker 17: ministry has obviously caused a great deal of trouble and

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Speaker 17: people are not happy about it.

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Speaker 2: But we would be.

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Speaker 17: Interesting to see the polls because the last poll I

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Speaker 17: think we had on Maloney Mike was still had her

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Speaker 17: at around twenty seven percent, so she was quite strong.

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Speaker 17: But we might see some changes in the next few weeks.

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Speaker 2: Very interesting now the spag and A can update. You

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Speaker 2: haven't tried it, have you.

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Speaker 17: I didn't find it, but I understand it's on sale

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Speaker 17: in London. I was there for the weekend and one

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Speaker 17: of the reporters, one of the Italian reporters, has gone

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Speaker 17: across and has been rajing about shock horror. It's even

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Speaker 17: worse than we expect it. It smells like dog food, and

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Speaker 17: they're even slicing the spaghetti into smaller pieces, so it's

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Speaker 17: not a good look for the Italians. They're very upset

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Speaker 17: about this.

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Speaker 2: I take it you can't buy it in Italy.

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Speaker 17: I haven't seen it on sale yet. I think they're

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Speaker 17: targeting the UK market because the Brits might be more vulnerable.

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Speaker 2: Spash bagan A, Are you standing in the rain? Is

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Speaker 2: it raining in the background of my hip? It is, Yes,

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Speaker 2: it is because I was noted. Are you in Italy

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Speaker 2: at the moment? You're back home in landed in Italy? No,

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Speaker 2: it's just the reason I asked that is because of

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Speaker 2: the dreadful floods across parts of Europe. But then I

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Speaker 2: thought there was a storm heading into Italy somewhere. Am

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Speaker 2: I correct in saying that I've literally made that up?

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Speaker 17: Yes, you might remember we've talked about the floods. We've

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Speaker 17: had the return of the floods in Emilia Romagna, and

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Speaker 17: the government, to its creditors, started throwing money at some

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Speaker 17: of those famis lee's and victims up there. Small amounts,

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Speaker 17: but yeah, a lot of upheople in the area around Bologna,

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Speaker 17: in the north central part of Italy.

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Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, Joe catch up on Thursday very much,

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Speaker 2: Joe McKenna, because we had a big storm overnight in

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Speaker 2: Britain as well, a lot of flooding, a lot of

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Speaker 2: concern and burious areas. So we might touch on touch

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Speaker 2: on that with Rod later in the program. Boy, it's

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Speaker 2: already eleven away from seven on.

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Speaker 1: My cost will breakfairs with Bailey's Real Estate News talks.

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Speaker 2: As excited as we got about the Kiwi fruit and

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Speaker 2: as excited as I am about some CO two slash

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Speaker 2: methane slash biomass that I'll tell you about after seven

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Speaker 2: o'clock this morning. We do still have trouble in the economy.

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Speaker 2: The export to import numbers for August were rubbish. Value

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Speaker 2: of imports has fallen faster than exports, which I suppose

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Speaker 2: overall is all right. Kuei fruit, as we told you,

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Speaker 2: that's up one hundred and seventy seven million, or fifty

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Speaker 2: eight percent on the month. Meat down nineteen percent, aluminium

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Speaker 2: down thirty four percent, sheep twenty seven percent down, beef

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Speaker 2: down fifteen biggest fall was vehicle because no one wants

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Speaker 2: to buy one at the moment, because no one can

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Speaker 2: afford one. That's down forty two percent. The overall trade

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Speaker 2: deficit was two point two billion just for the month,

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Speaker 2: So we you know, it's a bleak and ugly picture.

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Speaker 2: I haven't done this for a while, so I need

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Speaker 2: to update you. So Ralph, I sort of thought when

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Speaker 2: I heard his son initially, when he got nab outside

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Speaker 2: the golf course, has son went, he's a cool dad,

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Speaker 2: and he doesn't sound like him, and I hope this

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Speaker 2: is a big mistake. Not really a mistake, mate, Ryan's nutter.

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Speaker 2: So he had a gun and he had some plans,

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Speaker 2: and he'd been stalking the guy, it turns out, for

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Speaker 2: a month, and he had a note saying that you know,

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Speaker 2: forget this note it wasn't successful, which clearly it wasn't. Meantime,

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Speaker 2: the Secret Service admitted over the weekend that they didn't

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Speaker 2: do a very good job back in Butler. Not that

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Speaker 2: we hadn't already worked that out, but for the first

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Speaker 2: time since July, the agency had presented the public with

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Speaker 2: a full picture of the internal breakdowns. Basically, it was complacency,

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Speaker 2: which I found interesting. There was no we sort of

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Speaker 2: know it, but to hear it from their own lips

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Speaker 2: is interesting. There was no real coordination with the local authorities.

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Speaker 2: They went, ah, yeah, it's another rally. Ah yeah, there's

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Speaker 2: a roof. Ah year, guy might climb up there, but

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Speaker 2: ah he probably won't. So oh has he? Ah hell

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Speaker 2: had that about it, had to work from home, vibe

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Speaker 2: about it, basically. And then we come overnight to yet

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Speaker 2: another open letter. This one is from national security leaders

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Speaker 2: for America and there are seven hundred and forty one

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Speaker 2: of them, which is quite a lot, and including people,

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Speaker 2: I mean obvious ones, former Secretaries of State Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 2: and John Kerry. So you'd expect them to sign a

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Speaker 2: letter saying that Trump's no good Chuck Hagel and William Cohen.

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Speaker 2: Though Republicans criticize the form of President's foreign affairs track

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Speaker 2: record alleged involvement in the Jan six Capital riot, he

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Speaker 2: has shown no remorse for trying to overturn the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty election Jan six, promises to pardon the convicted perpetrators,

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Speaker 2: has made clear he will not respect the results of

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Speaker 2: the twenty four elections, should be should he win again.

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Speaker 2: So there's seven hundred of them, And that was on

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Speaker 2: top of the other letter the other day. So a

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Speaker 2: lot of letters, a lot of complacency in the security forces,

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Speaker 2: and so we count down. It's getting close. So do

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Speaker 2: you know, let me just quickly tell you this where

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Speaker 2: we're going to cover this thing. Maybe I'm increasingly in

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Speaker 2: two minds about it, but anyway, they still don't know

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Speaker 2: where and still have not announced where the headquarters are

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Speaker 2: for the two candidates. So you ask me, Mike, where

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Speaker 2: are you going? And the answer is I don't know,

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Speaker 2: and you go why not? And I go because they

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Speaker 2: haven't decided yet, and they are not going to decide

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Speaker 2: until we are told. This is the State Department. I

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Speaker 2: wring them every day. Their phone service is hopeless. You're

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Speaker 2: on hold for ages. Anyway, they're going to make it

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Speaker 2: late this month or possibly early next month. Amazing.

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Speaker 14: And you've got some very specific riders about whether you

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Speaker 14: will or all not go.

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Speaker 2: I said, if I can touch it, if I can

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Speaker 2: leave here in land like New York, no problem. If

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Speaker 2: I leave there in land and have to jump on

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Speaker 2: a domestic flight, it's over.

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Speaker 14: And then the idea of a van was raised, and

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Speaker 14: you said, no to that.

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Speaker 2: There's anybody on the like another trip we went in

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Speaker 2: a e van. We went in an event from Washington

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Speaker 2: to New York.

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Speaker 14: And then so somebody who also said they mentioned a train. Yeah,

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Speaker 14: and then it was turning into a sort of a

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Speaker 14: sequel to trains, planes and automobiles, which I thought sounded

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Speaker 14: like there would be great content.

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Speaker 2: It's a disaster anyway. We may or may not get

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Speaker 2: out of the country four minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 3: All the ins and the ouse.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business favor. Take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: You data on concert tickets, they're still through the roof.

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Speaker 2: Last time Oasis played at Wembley in two thousand nine,

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Speaker 2: tickets were ninety two bucks. Now they're three hundred and twenty.

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Speaker 2: Even if you adjusted for inflation, it's one hundred and

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Speaker 2: forty five versus today's three hundred and twenty. The most

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Speaker 2: expensive tickets last year Beyonce Madonna five fivey one hundred

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Speaker 2: versus two thousand, seven hundred for Madonna. Fifty one percent

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Speaker 2: of people in the UK. High ticket prices have stopped

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Speaker 2: them going to gigs sixty six percent, so they produced

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Speaker 2: the number of gigs they go to, not surprising promoters.

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Speaker 2: Their costs are up thirty five to forty percent, so

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Speaker 2: there's something in that. And then the worst part of

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Speaker 2: all the UK decision to ban what they call red diesel,

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Speaker 2: which power the generators and all the heavy vehicles at

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Speaker 2: festivals and arenas, and because of that that was hopeless.

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Speaker 2: That was part of the UK's government plan in twenty

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Speaker 2: two to reduce emissions, and after the new rule, prices

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Speaker 2: immediately went up twenty two percent. So it's becoming prohibitive

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Speaker 2: to simply go to a concert with your average ticket

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Speaker 2: now hundreds of dollars for a top act. And that's

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Speaker 2: before you get to you know, or your dress ups.

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Speaker 2: Of course you've got to because every concept I don't

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Speaker 2: know about you, but every concert I go to, I

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Speaker 2: do the dress ups, and you get down to the

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Speaker 2: two dollars shop and dress yourself up in a bit

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Speaker 2: of sparkle. It's not two dollars, I can tell you

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Speaker 2: that for nothing.

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Speaker 14: The appropriate novelty glasses.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, they're not. They don't come cheap. Glenn News for you.

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Speaker 2: In a couple of moments, then we'll delve into the

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Speaker 2: pulking Horn.

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Speaker 1: Decision, the newspeakers and the personalities of the big names.

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Speaker 1: Talk to like my costing, breakfast with Bailey's real estate,

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Speaker 1: your local experts, across residential come so adverll use.

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Speaker 2: To seven past sevens are not guilty. It is in

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Speaker 2: the polking Horn case, the jury comparatively took about three

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Speaker 2: and a half minutes to come to their conclusion. Eight

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Speaker 2: weeks of witnesses and detail come down to the simple

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Speaker 2: fact that prosecution couldn't stitch together enough evidence to get

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Speaker 2: their side of the argument. Across the line. Criminal defense

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Speaker 2: lawyer A. Liz Hall is with us li's morning to you,

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Speaker 2: Good morning Mike. A level of interest from your perspective

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Speaker 2: as a lawyer. One you couldn't care less. Ten you

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Speaker 2: were beside yourself. Where did you sit? Oh about a

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Speaker 2: one couldn't care less?

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Speaker 18: Well not couldn't care less. I mean, it's an example

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Speaker 18: of our criminal justice for working, and so that's encouraging

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Speaker 18: to all defense lawyers. But other than that, you know,

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Speaker 18: there are trials going on up and down the country

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Speaker 18: that are important to the people that are involved. This

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Speaker 18: one just happened to get more media coverage.

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Speaker 2: I was sure I was going to like you anyway,

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Speaker 2: but I didn't know that answer was coming. I think

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Speaker 2: I'm the only other New Zealander who couldn't have given

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Speaker 2: a monkey's either way, I figure he either did it

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Speaker 2: or he didn't, or come to a conclusion, and that's

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Speaker 2: the judicial process was there to be found. Do you

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Speaker 2: think from the prosecution's point of view, they couldn't get

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Speaker 2: their side of the argument across given the link to

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Speaker 2: the not at all.

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Speaker 18: The goal of the criminal justice system isn't to help

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Speaker 18: the crown get across the line. What the crown do

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Speaker 18: is they call the available evidence that they think will

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Speaker 18: establish guilt. The jury make the assessment of whether they

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Speaker 18: have called sufficient evidence or off the case leaves them

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Speaker 18: sure of guilt. That didn't happen in this case. So

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Speaker 18: it's just justice working.

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Speaker 2: How much weight sure? How much weight would you have

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Speaker 2: put or do you think you would put on the

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Speaker 2: Ashton non appearance?

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Speaker 18: Would they now come on, Mike. Everything that woman has

682
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Speaker 18: to say was already before the jury. The only thing

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Speaker 18: that the jury missed out on was seeing what outfit

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Speaker 18: that woman water court. I think it's a total red

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Speaker 18: herring to start focusing on what she thinks she might

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Speaker 18: have added to the trial.

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Speaker 2: What weight would you put on a good brief in

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Speaker 2: the form of Mansfield.

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Speaker 18: Ron Mansfield's one of the best in the business.

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Speaker 2: So if you hire, well you can go in feeling

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Speaker 2: more confident than if you don't hire.

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Speaker 18: Will No Come on now. Every criminal defense lawyer puts

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Speaker 18: their heart and soul into this business. If we were

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Speaker 18: interested in anything other than justice, we'd be doing conveyancing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, in totality, what are your outtakes of this trial

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Speaker 2: that has allegedly gripped the nation?

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Speaker 18: Well, I don't know that it has gripped the nation.

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Speaker 18: I think it's gripped those people who like click bait

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Speaker 18: on media. It's just justice working. That's all you've seen

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Speaker 18: play out. And as you know that both the Crown

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Speaker 18: and the defense have worked very hard and the verdict

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Speaker 18: is what it is, and Sony, the Ablenesses need to

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Speaker 18: relax and see that that's justice working.

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Speaker 2: Good on you, Elizabeth, appreciate it very much. This Hall,

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Speaker 2: criminal defense lawyer, come on now. Ten minutes past seven

706
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Speaker 2: pasking public servicemen called back to the office. While some

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Speaker 2: of them have, I'll talk to the Prime Minister about this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many have. I don't even think

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Speaker 2: they got a plan around this. The government wants strictive

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Speaker 2: working from home rules. We just don't know what they are.

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Speaker 2: At Wellington Chamber of Commerce is kind of wittens with

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Speaker 2: us cold of morning, good morning. Mind broadly you guys

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Speaker 2: support this.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, Look, we do think that this has the real

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Speaker 19: potential to make a difference for Wellington, and it's important

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Speaker 19: to recognize that at a time when public finances are

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Speaker 19: pretty tight, it's something that really doesn't cost the government assent.

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Speaker 19: We all know it's been a hard time for businesses

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Speaker 19: in Wellington, but particularly for retail and hospitality. Working from

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Speaker 19: home trends are definitely a very big part of that.

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Speaker 19: And look, you're right, the numbers are a little bit

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Speaker 19: hard to quantify. We will have those numbers because public

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Speaker 19: sector CEOs will be required to report on it. But

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Speaker 19: look at some ballpark figures. There are twenty eight thousand

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Speaker 19: public servants who still work in Wellington according to the

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Speaker 19: Public Service Commission. If they're working from home and average

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Speaker 19: of two days a week, that's more than fifty thousand

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Speaker 19: fewer potential customers for businesses in the CBD and in

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Speaker 19: the city size of Wellington. That makes a real impact.

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Speaker 19: So if we get some of those people back in

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Speaker 19: the city, not everyone's going to buy a coffee or

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Speaker 19: go shopping or head out for a Friday drink, but

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Speaker 19: tens of thousands more people in the city the size

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Speaker 19: of Wellington. It's going to make a real impact at

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Speaker 19: a time when businesses are doing it tough.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any confidence that there were no rules yesterday?

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Speaker 2: It was just a general, hey, we should really do

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Speaker 2: something about this vibe. Is anything actually going to happen?

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Speaker 2: Do you think? Well?

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Speaker 19: I suppose time will tell on that. I mean, of

741
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Speaker 19: course they can't really just step out and mandate it

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Speaker 19: all together. Some of it may be written into employment

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Speaker 19: contracts already. Any change will have to comply with employment law,

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Speaker 19: and every employee, whether they're in the public or private sector,

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Speaker 19: has the right to try to negotiate for flexible working.

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Speaker 19: There will be many situations where that might be the

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Speaker 19: right thing to do. What we don't want to see

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Speaker 19: is the current situation, whereas for many agencies it's just

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Speaker 19: become the default. This change is about making sure there's

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Speaker 19: a good reason for public servants to be working from home,

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Speaker 19: and we think that's a pretty sensible step. What we

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Speaker 19: would like to see, you're right, is that it actually

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Speaker 19: brings people back into the office. So CEO is being

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Speaker 19: required to report on that level of working from home

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Speaker 19: in their ministries is really important. We'll have that data

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Speaker 19: by the start of next year and that'll be the

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Speaker 19: point to assess whether it's really making an impact or

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Speaker 19: maybe whether there's something else that can good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Can't appreciate it very much. Conor Witten, who's out of

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Speaker 2: the Wellington Chamber of Commas twelve and it's past seven.

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Speaker 2: Numbers on christ Church. CBD continues to hold a twenty

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Speaker 2: percent year of the total spending in christ Church. So

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Speaker 2: in other words, the CBD is working bill that they

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Speaker 2: will come City Council keep this data. From January to

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Speaker 2: June this year a number of pedestrians in the place

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Speaker 2: one point four percent higher than the same period last year.

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Speaker 2: Daily average number of pedestrians is up some twelve percent,

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Speaker 2: So it depends on how you work. Wellington's twenty two percent.

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Speaker 2: By the way of public service, I know it got

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Speaker 2: focused on Wellington a lot, but twenty two percent of

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Speaker 2: the public service are in fact places like Auckland, so

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Speaker 2: it's not just a Wellington thing that happened yesterday. It

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Speaker 2: was very much right around the country. Kiwi Saber, I

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Speaker 2: can tell you this morning interesting numbers. This is the FMA,

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Speaker 2: the Financial Markets Authority Annual report on KIWI Saber. The

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Speaker 2: amount saved has cracked through one hundred billions, gone from

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Speaker 2: ninety three to one hundred and eleven billion, so that's material.

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Speaker 2: Total memberships up still going up, which is good, not

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Speaker 2: by much. There are three point three to three million

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Speaker 2: of us in key We Saber. It was three point

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Speaker 2: two five. It's gone to three point three three, So

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Speaker 2: that growth, I suppose, is still a good thing. Average

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Speaker 2: balance is thirty grand Is that enough to retire on?

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Speaker 2: I mean answers no, So you do wonder is it

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Speaker 2: actually serving its purpose? And where I can't thirty thousand dollars,

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Speaker 2: I mean that'll buy you an MG on special if

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Speaker 2: you want an EV. But apart from that's not solving

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Speaker 2: your long term problem. Investment returns are plus thirteen billion,

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Speaker 2: which is good. Total fees there's a conversation. Last year

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Speaker 2: six hundred and sixty four million dollars worth of fees,

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Speaker 2: this year at seven hundred and eighty nine. Oh, that'll

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Speaker 2: be inflation. That'll be that. And we didn't save anything

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Speaker 2: working from home when we did those numbers either. Fourteen

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Speaker 2: past seven The.

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Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio. Howard By

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Speaker 1: News Talks at.

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Speaker 2: B Christopher Laxon with a shortly sixteen past seven from

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Speaker 2: the Bright Ideas Department. We got methane and CO two

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Speaker 2: could be harnessed to create livestock feed. How good is this?

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Speaker 2: World first? Research, upflow, business and innovation are into this.

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Speaker 2: The director is Andy Blair, who's with this. Andy, very

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Speaker 2: good morning to you. So you plug it into the

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Speaker 2: geothermal system with your microbes and it just grows? Is

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Speaker 2: that it? Or am I just a bit thick?

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Speaker 20: No, you're pretty much beang on Mike. So basically, we

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Speaker 20: take the guesses that come from c simial power stations

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Speaker 20: and plart them into these bugs and they make a

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Speaker 20: single cell protein.

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Speaker 2: Can you see it happen?

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Speaker 20: Yep, we've already made We've already made it. We've made

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Speaker 20: the biomass and it exists, and yeah, it's technique.

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Speaker 2: And so what are you looking for scalability? Now?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, so we're doing we're doing that test for scalability.

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Speaker 20: So how do we make it economically viable in a

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Speaker 20: big enough and a more meaningful way for a commercial

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Speaker 20: market to take it and make it sustainable?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So if you plug it in and when you

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Speaker 2: leave the office, you'd leave the office at six because

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Speaker 2: you're not a work from home or I can tell.

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Speaker 2: So you leave the office at sex, you plug it

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Speaker 2: in when you come the next morning. How much you got?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, so it's not like that it's been plugged in

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Speaker 20: constantly to a power station, and they just multiply. The

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Speaker 20: only thing that stops them from growing is lack of

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Speaker 20: food or the size of the vessel that we put

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Speaker 20: them in. So they'll just keep multiplying by as much

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Speaker 20: food that we give them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but how quickly? I mean, like you put a

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Speaker 2: sackload of food and do you get a sack load

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Speaker 2: of biomass or ten biomass or oh it's.

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Speaker 20: Like replicating like thousands and thousands of times over every minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 20: they grow really rapidly. And that's why it's such a

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Speaker 20: cool technology. Bioteach is so cool is because it's not

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Speaker 20: constrained by normal sort of multiplication rates that we see

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Speaker 20: in other spaces.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do the animals like it? Will they eat it?

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Speaker 2: Do you know?

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Speaker 20: Well, we've done some early testing on mice which love

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Speaker 20: it and think it's just as good as the food

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Speaker 20: they're eating. But we're also working on which markets, which

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Speaker 20: animal market we're tagging, and we'll have to do that

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Speaker 20: sort of do they like it, do they not like it?

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Speaker 20: But it performed really well in the early testing that

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Speaker 20: we did.

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Speaker 2: What's it cost you to make a sackload? Do you know?

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Speaker 2: Is it sse tenths of cents? Hundreds of dollars?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, it's all about dollars per kg. And we're trying

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Speaker 20: to figure that out in this step as well. So

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Speaker 20: we don't think it's going to be bulk food. We

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Speaker 20: think it's going to be meaningful little components of its

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Speaker 20: additives to feed because it's not cheap and it will

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Speaker 20: take a while to become competitive with normal bulk food rates.

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Speaker 20: So we'll be targeting the sort of high value stuff first.

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Speaker 2: That's so exciting. When do you reckon? You're going to

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Speaker 2: give it to a cow?

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Speaker 20: We reckon in about ten to twelve years, will be

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Speaker 20: commercially operating and feeding it like you're able to dial.

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Speaker 2: It up in order some and you are one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent certain of this or you're still in the we'll

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Speaker 2: see how it goes pace.

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Speaker 20: Well, we've made we've made the biomass. We know we

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Speaker 20: can make one hundred percent to make biomass. Now we're

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Speaker 20: just need to figure out can we make it commercially viable?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's exciting. Hey, tell me about your Kings honor tomorrow. Andy.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I'm getting an officer for New Zealand Order of

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Speaker 2: twenty four. As I listened to Ricardo Mendez march lectures

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Speaker 2: on poverty being a choice, yesterday's level of naivety and

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Speaker 2: fiscal ineptitude reminded me yet again how dangerous these Greens are.

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Speaker 2: He makes two potentially disastrous assumptions. Of course, one the

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Speaker 2: figure of three billion is correct, and two, if you

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Speaker 2: write a check, poverty will be solved. The chances are

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Speaker 2: neither are true. Having also been part of to some

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Speaker 2: degree the government of the past six years that's taken

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Speaker 2: an economic hammer to the place, you might have hoped

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Speaker 2: even he would have seen just simply spraying money about

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Speaker 2: the place doesn't work, and so do the Greens. Mendoz

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Speaker 2: march aside, what about Chloe? Have you ever seen a

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Speaker 2: more indecisive leader? Darlene Tanner became an issue months back,

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Speaker 2: months and months and months back, and yet look what

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Speaker 2: Chloe's done about it? Nothing Goalers of course, Julian Genta,

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Speaker 2: I mean she now appears to be but a minor

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Speaker 2: issue of barely any relevance at all. And Tory, who

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Speaker 2: may or may not have sold her car, or may

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Speaker 2: or may not have had trouble balancing your books at

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Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety thousand dollars a year, most certainly

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Speaker 2: has applied the Green philosophy of finance to the capital

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Speaker 2: by basically wrecking it and at the same time racking

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Speaker 2: up debt the likes of which fore you have ever seen.

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Speaker 2: My great hope out of all of this is slowly,

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Speaker 2: but surely we as voters and participants learn our own lesson,

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Speaker 2: and that is to stop and think about what it

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Speaker 2: is we want, stop and think about our participation in

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Speaker 2: the system, to not only participate, but also to participate knowledgeably. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you think Chloe and Tory and Darlene are your

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Speaker 2: kind of people, and Ricardo's a nobel economists, then that is,

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Speaker 2: of course, sadly you're right. But the evidence is stacked

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Speaker 2: up all over the place these days, from councils to

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Speaker 2: central governments, from current account deficits to credit rating downgrades,

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Speaker 2: that having the wrong people with the wrong ideas in

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Speaker 2: charge of money is a disaster that's extraordinarily hard to

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Speaker 2: extricate yourself from. If the Greens wanted more national parks, fine,

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Speaker 2: but they're social engineering side, as you sert that, and

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Speaker 2: they are nowadays just straight up and down dangerous. Once

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Speaker 2: it was smacking and cannabis, now it's economic carnage. They

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Speaker 2: only get away with it if we let them. Osky

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Speaker 2: Mike I'm listening on the app, so this message will

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Speaker 2: be late defence lawyer. That's what it says. Justice is

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Speaker 2: working when the jury thinks the verdict is guilty but

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Speaker 2: cannot make it stick because of the legal jargon. Come on, no,

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Speaker 2: that is justice. Justice system requires a group in this case,

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Speaker 2: eleven of your peers. That part's debatable to weigh up

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Speaker 2: what was presented to them. It's not about being innocent,

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Speaker 2: It's about what did I receive in front of me

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Speaker 2: and beyond reasonable doubt, can I get across the line

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Speaker 2: in my conclusion. So yes, they came back and said

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Speaker 2: a number of the jury didn't believe she had hung herself.

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Speaker 2: But they also said we don't see the evidence to

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Speaker 2: get across the line on guilty. So you then go

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Speaker 2: back to the prosecutor's office and go what was it?

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Speaker 2: And I thought the comment from the prosecutor was interesting

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Speaker 2: that she said the evidence was there to be pieced together. Well,

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Speaker 2: if it was there to be pieced together, why didn't

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Speaker 2: you piece it together in a way to convince eleven

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Speaker 2: other New Zealanders that what you were saying was correct

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Speaker 2: and she couldn't do it? And that is justice. Mike

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Speaker 2: get Liz haul back anytime to talk about anything. Zero

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Speaker 2: waffles straight up and you're not left wondering that part's true, Mike,

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Speaker 2: Liz haall rates herself, doesn't she come on? Ffs Bob

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Speaker 2: got you fired up? And then I got another text

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Speaker 2: here that says, Mike, I'm incredibly offended. Don't be incredibly offended.

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Speaker 2: No point is being incredibly off There's no point in

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Speaker 2: being offended. Far less incredibly offended. Christopher Luxen PM.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Just a quick one on the working from home thing.

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Speaker 2: No fine detail yesterday? Why not? And is that not

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Speaker 2: potentially a problem given what we've talked about in the

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks and that as you're getting pushed

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Speaker 2: back from the public service anyway.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, look, I mean what we're laying out very clearly

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Speaker 21: is our expectations is that it's not working from home

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Speaker 21: is not an entire wanted to actually got to be

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Speaker 21: done by formal agreement. People just shouldn't be assuming that

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Speaker 21: it's a reality. We don't want any working from home

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Speaker 21: to compromise the performance of the lolic service, and we

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Speaker 21: were kind of going to actively monitor it and sort

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Speaker 21: of regularly report on progress against it as a government.

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Speaker 21: It's actually the cees that we're talking to who actually

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Speaker 21: are the employers to make sure that you know, they're

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Speaker 21: building really a highly productive public service. It's firing on

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Speaker 21: all cylinders, and that's why we don't want working from

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Speaker 21: home to undermine any of that ambition.

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Speaker 2: Are you a bit slow to get to this? I

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Speaker 2: honestly thought this had been sorted like a year ago,

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Speaker 2: if not longer.

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Speaker 21: Well, yeah, I mean the bottom line is, no one

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Speaker 21: really knows what's going on and who's working were at

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Speaker 21: the moment, if I'm honest about it, in the public service,

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Speaker 21: and I think many sees would struggle to say, you know,

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Speaker 21: what proportion of the workforces at home and not, and

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Speaker 21: which are under formal agreements to do so or not.

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Speaker 21: And all we're saying is, look, you know, working from

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Speaker 21: home was introduced as a temporary measure for COVID four

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Speaker 21: years ago. Many organizations, businesses, governments around the world are

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Speaker 21: fighting four years down the road. It doesn't help build culture,

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Speaker 21: it doesn't help team development, it doesn't put improved performance.

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Speaker 21: And you know, you know, we want to make sure

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Speaker 21: that you know, we've got a public service ready to

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Speaker 21: go because we had a lot of challenges, a lot

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Speaker 21: of opportunities to sort through.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't that sort of sum up everything that's wrong with

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Speaker 2: this country? Though, when you go to a CEO and

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Speaker 2: go tell me about it and he goes, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have a clue.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, but it's my job to fix it, right, So

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Speaker 21: I've got to set a new expectation in a different

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Speaker 21: standard that people need to work to. If I just

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Speaker 21: walk past it and say that's good enough for and

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Speaker 21: I know it's not and we don't fix that.

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Speaker 2: That's not right.

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Speaker 21: So the bottom line is, look, that is what it is,

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Speaker 21: or we're saying is we've got many good public servants.

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Speaker 21: They are appreciating the clarity they're getting from our government, you know,

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Speaker 21: and the direction that they're getting. But we want people

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Speaker 21: to understand it's not an entitlement. It is by agreement.

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Speaker 21: We don't want any compromise to any performance or productivity

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Speaker 21: of the public service, and that's why we're doing what

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Speaker 21: we're doing.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of fixing stuff, I don't know if you saw

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Speaker 2: the Lower Institute report on our diplomatic heft in the

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Speaker 2: region which is going backwards along with China and Myanmar.

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Speaker 2: Was Nanayama, who to singularly the most embarrassing forum in

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Speaker 2: this this country ever had.

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Speaker 21: Well, I just say the Lowy index is one perspective,

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Speaker 21: but having said that, it has actually declined since twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 21: So and I've said many times I thought the previous

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Speaker 21: government was way too inward looking, not proactive enough, too

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Speaker 21: slow coming out of COVID, and not advancing or further

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Speaker 21: our interests overseas sufficiently. And that's why you know, we've

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Speaker 21: had a full court press. We've hit it really hard

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Speaker 21: in the first ten months. You know, Winston's out there,

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Speaker 21: Judith Colin's out there, Tod mcclay's out there. I've been

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Speaker 21: out there and it's all part of our plan to

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Speaker 21: sort of lift the energy and urgency and our diplomatic relationship.

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Speaker 21: So we do have influence and we are relevant in

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Speaker 21: the region because we've got a lot to offer. So

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Speaker 21: you know, you know, we are where we are, but

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Speaker 21: you know, I definitely feel like I want to lift

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Speaker 21: that into energy and urgency, and I think we're doing that.

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Speaker 21: I mean, you've had people like Todd McLay just constantly,

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Speaker 21: you know, meeting with trade ministers working out trade opportunities

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Speaker 21: for us. Have had more to say about that shortly.

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Speaker 21: I'm sure some things he's been working on which has

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Speaker 21: been good. But likewise mel Winston Peter's it's doing a

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Speaker 21: fantastic job out.

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Speaker 2: There, Colin. I note that India didn't or doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to sign the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership of which we

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Speaker 2: are a part of, because it seems because of China,

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Speaker 2: does that if we can't get a deal directly with

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Speaker 2: them and they don't want to join that which we

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Speaker 2: are part of, does that set us back potentially trade wise?

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Speaker 16: No.

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Speaker 21: I think the reality for US is we want to

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Speaker 21: do a bilateral arrates set of trade arrangements with India.

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Speaker 21: The first thing is executly. You've sort of started the

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Speaker 21: questioning around is that you've got to have a relationship

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Speaker 21: in place, and when you haven't actually had, you've had

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Speaker 21: radio silence and no engagement with the Indian system. You

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Speaker 21: can talk trade all you want, but you've got to

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Speaker 21: get the relationship in place first. And You've had Todd

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Speaker 21: McLay I think, meet with his trade counterpart there five times.

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Speaker 21: You've had Winston visit. I think Todd's been there several times.

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Speaker 21: I've hosted the Indian president here. I've spoken to Mody.

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Speaker 21: We're desperate to try and get together. It's a bit

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Speaker 21: difficult in this last quarter with schedules of visits and

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Speaker 21: other APEC and other things going on, but we're going

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Speaker 21: to try and do that early next year and I'll

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Speaker 21: take a big delegation up there. And here's a fascinating country.

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Speaker 21: I mean, it's incredible countries, our third biggest economy by

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Speaker 21: twenty thirty. It's done a lot of business there in

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Speaker 21: my past life with Unilever, and it's just there's so

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Speaker 21: much opportunity we should have been in the years ago,

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Speaker 21: should have been exactly because you know, it's I think, Mike,

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Speaker 21: it's about just over two point two billion of trade.

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Speaker 21: It's gone backwards actually over the last government, from two

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Speaker 21: point eight down to two point two. China's forty billion,

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Speaker 21: same population, so you know, that's the potential that sits there. Yes,

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Speaker 21: there's some challenges around categories that we sell, like dairy

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Speaker 21: and other things, but we've got to we've got to

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Speaker 21: build the relationship. We've got to be in and we've

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Speaker 21: got to be having the conversations and from there we'll

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Speaker 21: talk about trade and transactions.

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Speaker 2: The UN vote that Peters wants depending the other day,

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Speaker 2: this is on Palestine. The text that we had some

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Speaker 2: trouble with but not enough trouble not to vote yes,

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Speaker 2: was the same text that Penny Wong, no friend of

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Speaker 2: a conservative, didn't had so much trouble with she voted no.

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Speaker 2: How come she votes know and we vote yes on

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Speaker 2: the same thing.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, well, I mean, as you could see, we did

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Speaker 21: have serious concerns. We talked about that and what's called

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Speaker 21: our explanation of vote in that and the U in

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Speaker 21: General Assembly. But we agree with the direction of travel.

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Speaker 21: You know, when our view has been very clear, looks

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Speaker 21: we need to cease far. We want to cease far,

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Speaker 21: we want the hostilities to stop you know, Israel leaving

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Speaker 21: the occupied terities within twelve months with something that we

1112
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Speaker 21: thought was unrealistic, and we talked about that, but on balance,

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Speaker 21: we have an independent foreign policy. We made our own

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Speaker 21: decision and we said, look, the direction of travel is right,

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Speaker 21: but we did vote with some pretty serious caveats and

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Speaker 21: concerns as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just real quick, this four year term you talked

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Speaker 2: about on Friday, the chances of putting the idea to

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Speaker 2: a vote in twenty six is what.

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Speaker 21: Well, we haven't actually started the work on it, and

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Speaker 21: we've got coalition commitments and all three parties are supportive

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Speaker 21: of doing it. And what we first said is, look,

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Speaker 21: let's get it to Select committee. And so it'll depend

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Speaker 21: upon how much progress we can make between now and then.

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Speaker 2: But unlikely likely. Who knows.

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Speaker 21: I'm not going to put a number on it, to

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Speaker 21: be honest, because I just haven't had the chance to

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Speaker 21: have the conversation and we haven't started the work. But

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Speaker 21: when we do we put it into a quarterly plan,

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Speaker 21: that's will really be pushing it forward.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and when we vote, it'll be binding, yeah, to

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Speaker 2: be a referendum. Yeah, yeah, Well we can have a referendum,

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Speaker 2: REFERENDM you've got is it a binding referendum? Yeah, okay,

1134
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Speaker 2: so we vote for it, will happen and will it

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Speaker 2: happen the next term?

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Speaker 20: Well?

1137
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Speaker 21: No, what you'd do is you think you'd have to

1138
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Speaker 21: take it to referendum and then actually have an effect

1139
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Speaker 21: that the term after that term that you've voted for.

1140
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Speaker 21: I don't think you could go to referendum and your

1141
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Speaker 21: mean you'd have to go sit with a three year

1142
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Speaker 21: term and then it would turn into a four year term.

1143
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Speaker 21: But all of that is a bit premature. There's nothing

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Speaker 21: currently underway. Having said that, there's strong support I think

1145
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Speaker 21: across the parliament frankly and within the coalition. We have

1146
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Speaker 21: commitment to do the work, but just too early to say.

1147
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Speaker 2: Just for the record, was anything exchanged in any way,

1148
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: shape or form for Merton's release?

1149
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Speaker 21: No, no, no, not at all. And do they want

1150
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 21: anything new Zealand government doesn't pay bribes or ransom, We

1151
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 21: did not do so in this case. Did they want

1152
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 21: Nathan No, not that I'm aware of.

1153
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Speaker 2: No, not at all.

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Speaker 21: Well, this has been a series of it just been

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Speaker 21: relentless effort frankly from m fat the Indonesian government and

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Speaker 21: also actually community figures that have been involved with you

1157
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 21: have connections to the hostage takers as well, and so

1158
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Speaker 21: it's been about making sure that we manage his safety.

1159
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Speaker 21: Over the last nineteen months, it's taken time. It's been

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Speaker 21: relentless and tireless, I think for five hundred and ninety

1161
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Speaker 21: plus days, and it's been pretty complex case. So it's

1162
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Speaker 21: been just relentless pressure but also engagement that sort of

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Speaker 21: led and sprung and free.

1164
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Speaker 2: Okay, have you read the Supreme Court's order around the

1165
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Speaker 2: Murray Coastline appeal and how you now have to pay

1166
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Speaker 2: in advance for their fees? Yeah, I'm aware of it. Again. Well,

1167
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Speaker 2: holl's that about station.

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Speaker 21: Well that's again a conversation that Paul Goldsmith will pick

1169
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Speaker 21: up and work through. But the bottom line here is

1170
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Speaker 21: that all we're doing on the MACA legislation is returning

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Speaker 21: it to what Parliament intended, as we said.

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Speaker 2: Here, but they don't like that and they want you

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Speaker 2: Now a court in this country is now telling the government,

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Speaker 2: which is the ultimate court, to pay money in advance

1175
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Speaker 2: and how you run your what I mean, come on.

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Speaker 21: Well, all we can do is we have to respect

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Speaker 21: the judiciary. But we we have a government, well we do.

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Speaker 2: Even when they're just so egregiously invasive an activist it's laughable.

1179
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Speaker 21: Well, all I can do, Mike is on that issue

1180
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Speaker 21: and to take the issues one by one and just say, look,

1181
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Speaker 21: we had the balance right in twenty eleven with the legislation.

1182
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Speaker 21: The threshold was lowered by the courts. That's not what

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Speaker 21: was intended. We're protecting the legitimate interests of all New

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Speaker 21: Zealanders as well as Marai customary rights. We had the

1185
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Speaker 21: balance right, it's not right now we're returning it back

1186
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Speaker 21: to that and I appreciate there'll be a bit of

1187
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Speaker 21: grief about that, but that's what was intended by parliament.

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Speaker 21: Parliament is sovereign. It gets to make the rules and

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Speaker 21: that's all we're doing it this way.

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Speaker 2: Good. Is Winston gonna win on the fairies? Are you

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00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 2: going to win on the fairies? The free is going

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Speaker 2: to have rail or not?

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Speaker 7: Look?

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Speaker 2: Is it tracks nder worn?

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Speaker 21: I just say, oh, the fairies, like the current ki

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Speaker 21: raw ones, can go out to twenty twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: They need to.

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Speaker 21: It's about to quiro to make sure they maintain just

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Speaker 21: like airlines and trucking companies do fleet management very well.

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Speaker 21: We expect them to do that. We've got a ministerial

1201
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Speaker 21: advisory group. We're starting the discussions internally. We'll pop up

1202
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Speaker 21: with a solution and I think Nicholas said we'll do

1203
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Speaker 21: that by the end of this year early next year.

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Speaker 2: All right, appreciate time. Prime Minister Christopher lux on Tuesday

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Speaker 2: mornings on the mic Asking Breakfast thirteen to eight.

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Speaker 2: It'd be just in reference to the inter Island or

1209
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: if you didn't know what we were talking about at

1210
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 2: the end, there's potentially a little bit of angst within

1211
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Speaker 2: the coalition. Peters is big on rail and if you

1212
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Speaker 2: followed his career over the years, he's been consistent on that,

1213
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Speaker 2: particularly in the northern part of the country. Not that

1214
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Speaker 2: that's got anything to do with the fairies, but once

1215
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Speaker 2: you've trucked it all out of Northland down the country,

1216
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Speaker 2: you want to get it on a boat and be

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Speaker 2: able to get it off the other side. Problem with that,

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Speaker 2: of course, as it becomes infrastructurally interesting as opposed to

1219
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Speaker 2: a boat that doesn't do rail. Therefore you can just

1220
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Speaker 2: park it up anywhere, So that is in front of

1221
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Speaker 2: the coalition at the moment they got some advice from

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Speaker 2: the ministerial group that Nicola Willis yesterday was as when

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Speaker 2: they got the advice, and she couldn't remember if the

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Speaker 2: person was probably at home, and I must tell you

1225
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Speaker 2: yesterday Katie goes to ring a person. I don't even

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Speaker 2: know what sort of firm it was, and I think

1227
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Speaker 2: was medical. So she wrings the person. She can't lots

1228
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Speaker 2: of numbers, she can't get through. No one's answering the phone.

1229
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Speaker 2: It's leave a message. One phone just went we cannot

1230
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Speaker 2: help you click. That's the end of it. Anyway, she

1231
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Speaker 2: emails somebody. They eventually ring back and she goes, all

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Speaker 2: I want to do is pay this bill. And she goes, oh,

1233
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Speaker 2: i'm working from home today. I can't do that. Ring

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Speaker 2: this number and that'll help you. So she rings the

1235
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Speaker 2: number again and that's the same number that goes, we

1236
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 2: can't help you. Click. So this working from home thing doesn't.

1237
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Speaker 14: Work except for Kay for who for Katie?

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Speaker 2: No, it didn't work.

1239
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Speaker 4: She works from home?

1240
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Speaker 2: No? Why yet she works from home? It's got she's

1241
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 2: got nowhere else to go. She hasn't got. She hasn't

1242
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Speaker 2: got like an outlet. If find something for her. If

1243
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 2: they had serious concerns about the UN resolution, they should

1244
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Speaker 2: have voted for it, should not have voted for it.

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Speaker 2: We look ridiculous siding with terrorists. Let me come back

1246
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: to that, because that hasn't got nearly enough coverage. Rade

1247
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Speaker 2: away from it.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Costing breakfast with a Veta retirement Communities News

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Speaker 1: tog saidb.

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Speaker 2: Mike working from home as a plant on society like

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Speaker 2: our last government. It's not more productive. I'd argue it's

1252
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 2: less productive. Great move by the government, Tom you, it's

1253
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Speaker 2: about I reckon roughly it's fifty to fifty this morning.

1254
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Speaker 2: It's one of those never the twain she'll meet arguments.

1255
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Speaker 2: If they were serious about concerns about the UN resolution,

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Speaker 2: they shouldn't have voted for it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What was interesting to me to the extent that this matters,

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Speaker 2: which it sort of does and sort of does, and

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Speaker 2: it doesn't to the extent that literally because of a

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Speaker 2: UN resolution, nothing happens. Nothing ever happens at the UN.

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Speaker 2: Hence the criticism the other day from one Helen Clark

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Speaker 2: and two Winston Peter's rarely aligned together, but there you go.

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Speaker 2: Because they're right. Nothing ever happens at the un But

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Speaker 2: it's an extraordinary thing that Penny Wong, who is about

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Speaker 2: as left as you get in the Australian labor movement

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00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 2: and is she will never say so publicly, obviously, but

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Speaker 2: is anti Israel all day long and pro Palestinian all

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Speaker 2: day long. They voted no because they could not get

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Speaker 2: past the text. And it wasn't just her and her alone,

1271
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Speaker 2: obviously she represents the government of the country. But they

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Speaker 2: couldn't get past the text. Yet somehow we could, so

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Speaker 2: we sort of had Winston rolled out going a text

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Speaker 2: Wor'd like. But nevertheless we vote yes. So we look

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Speaker 2: more liberal than a labor government in Australia. So the

1276
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: conservative government of New Zealand looks more liberal on Israel

1277
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Speaker 2: than the labor government of Australia. Explain that to me

1278
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Speaker 2: over a quiet drink, Mike. Make no mistake, this work

1279
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: from home is still a huge issue in the private sector.

1280
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: Have become beholden to the highly engaged workers who don't

1281
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Speaker 2: want to give this leverage back. It is a culture

1282
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 2: killer in a small market like New Zealand, and even

1283
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 2: more so in manufacturing logistics businesses where the office workers

1284
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Speaker 2: winge about the changes while the manual workers look on

1285
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 2: shaking their heads as that they have to turn up

1286
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: every day regardless. Show me how this has improved productivity

1287
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: in the last four years. Last time I looked, our

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00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: commercial performance has been a train smash. Scott well articulated.

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Speaker 2: Now we come in the next half out of Recarver.

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Speaker 2: You may not know the name. He's a documentary marker.

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Speaker 2: He's made a documentary about Warren and Marney. Warren and Marney,

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Speaker 2: anyone who's ever been to the town Hall in christ Church,

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Speaker 2: and of course in there is a real story because

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Speaker 2: of course it was badly, badly damaged in the earthquakes

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Speaker 2: of twenty eleven and what they were going to do

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Speaker 2: about it and how they were going to do about it.

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Speaker 2: But Warren and Marney as a team were genius, probably

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Speaker 2: the pre eminent architects of the modern era in this country.

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Speaker 2: A little bit brutalist at times, but nevertheless very clever

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Speaker 2: their story.

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Speaker 1: Next they use bold opinions the mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: the Jaguar f base count from a different clath News togs.

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Speaker 2: Edb in a seven past eight, Sir Miles. Warren Morris

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Speaker 2: Marney would be two of the country's most famous architects.

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Speaker 2: They are in christ Church, involved in some of the

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Speaker 2: more famous buildings of the city. Modern is brutalism, I

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Speaker 2: guess one of them, the town Hall, probably the most

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Speaker 2: famous of their works, revolutionized how you design performance spaces.

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Speaker 2: Got hit very hard by the earthquake and for a

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Speaker 2: time was actually going to be demolished. So we end

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Speaker 2: up with the documentary about Warren and Marney, their work

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Speaker 2: together and how it continues to be a bright point

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Speaker 2: for christ Church. It's called Morris and I and the

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Speaker 2: producer and director is Rick Harvey, who is with us

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Speaker 2: wreck A very good morning to you.

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Speaker 15: Oh, good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: How I very well. Indeed, it's already out and it

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Speaker 2: seems to have been a hit and people are full

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Speaker 2: of joy and JOI de b for it as far

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Speaker 2: as I can tell.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 15: It's a bit of an emotional journey. There's this happiness

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Speaker 15: and there's also you know a bit of a bit

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Speaker 15: of grief and sadness. But I mean it does finish

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Speaker 15: on a very very positive note. So but yeah, it

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Speaker 15: has had an amazing response throughout the country.

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Speaker 2: How did you get onto it? I mean, are you

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Speaker 2: into architecture at all? Yourself? Are not?

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Speaker 22: Really?

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Speaker 15: Well, I've always been into architecture. But you know the

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Speaker 15: christ Chitch town Hall, you know, being from christ Hitch

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Speaker 15: like yourself, it's it's always been a big part of

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Speaker 15: my life. I was born in nineteen seventy two, the

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Speaker 15: same year that the town hall was built or it opened,

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Speaker 15: And yeah, I mean it's just it's always been quite

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Speaker 15: quite special. And of course I've always known about so

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Speaker 15: Miles Warren and but yeah, the story really is about

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Speaker 15: the partnership. So you know, the sort of the unsung hero,

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Speaker 15: which is which is Morris.

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Speaker 2: It's so true, isn't it? Because I was thinking I

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Speaker 2: was thinking yesterday, as are some Miles, and then you think, oh,

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Speaker 2: what's all Marny's name and that and that in itself

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01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:42,959
Speaker 2: was part of it, wasn't it. And he was more

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Speaker 2: than happy not to be the star of the show.

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Speaker 15: That's right. He's quite happy to stay in the background.

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Speaker 15: But as you see in the films, he's the details

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Speaker 15: man and what often correct Miles, and you know, Miles

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01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 15: was quite happy to be corrected. So that's there was

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Speaker 15: a It was the perfect Yin yang kind of relationship.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, I did an interview a couple of

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Speaker 2: years back, the Brown v. Brown, Brown versus Brown and

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Speaker 2: if you've never seen it, watch that. That was about

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Speaker 2: a so you've seen that, right, Okay. The other one

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Speaker 2: I like is Lewis Kahan, who's internationally famous documentary was

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Speaker 2: done by his son and that and I thought, these

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Speaker 2: these things all seem to have family connections, and then

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Speaker 2: in yours banged as a family connection as well.

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Speaker 15: That's right. Yeah, So that's kind of that's the next

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Speaker 15: part of the story of the genesis of its meeting

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Speaker 15: Jane and I met her when she was working at

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Speaker 15: the at Sarah That's Great Recovery Authority, and I sort

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Speaker 15: of got talking to her and sort of mentioned that

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Speaker 15: it would always be great to make a document menary

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Speaker 15: about the town Hall, but not know really that it was,

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Speaker 15: you know, going to be a feature length film and

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Speaker 15: that it would have But I knew the story of

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Speaker 15: the town Hall and that you know, we sort of

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Speaker 15: treated it as a character and that it has a journey,

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Speaker 15: you know, from conception through to you know, being born

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Speaker 15: and then you know, nearly losing its life if you like.

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Speaker 15: But yeah, Jane was yeah, so and she has a

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Speaker 15: skill and she has a background and production as well.

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Speaker 15: So yeah, we got talking and then she came to

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Speaker 15: me when Morris was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in twenty

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01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 15: eighteen and said, if you want to make this documentary

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Speaker 15: about Miles and Morris, then you better get onto it.

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Speaker 15: So yeah you did, Yeah we did. Yeah, that's when

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Speaker 15: we got the first interview with Morris. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 15: after that the two of them together. So yeah, and

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Speaker 15: that comes the basis of our film.

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Speaker 2: What do you reckon? The answer to this is I

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Speaker 2: was watching it yesterday and I actually became quite emotional

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Speaker 2: about it because and I couldn't work out whether I

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Speaker 2: became emotional about it because it's a beautiful building that

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Speaker 2: almost got destroyed but has been saved. So there's just

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Speaker 2: that in itself, or I'm from christ Church. I've been

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Speaker 2: to it a million times. Therefore everywhere it's it's a

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Speaker 2: christ Church thing. In other words, well it.

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Speaker 15: Is, it's it's kind of yeah. I mean I wonder

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Speaker 15: whether it's a because it's such a specific thing when

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Speaker 15: you're making a film that the idea of specificity is

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Speaker 15: is really you've got to drill down into the details

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Speaker 15: and and the location, and that's that's kind of what

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Speaker 15: makes it appealing. But it is it is a it

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Speaker 15: is a christ Church story, but it's also kind of

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Speaker 15: an important New Zealand story. It's a it's part of

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Speaker 15: New Zealand's history, I suppose, and a lot of people

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Speaker 15: watch the film and kind of go I just didn't

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Speaker 15: realize that. And also I didn't realize what you guys

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Speaker 15: went through in christ at the time of earthquake and

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Speaker 15: and afterwards, and you know, we're all so busy trying

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Speaker 15: to get our lives back on track and you know,

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01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 15: save our businesses and you know, deal with things that

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Speaker 15: didn't actually know what was going on.

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Speaker 2: Hall Now there's an interesting story to that. Let me

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Speaker 2: let me take a break and come back and more

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Speaker 2: than that. In just a couple of moments, Rick Harvey,

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Speaker 2: who's produced a director of this particular documentary, Morris and

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Speaker 2: I more more in a moment twelve past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio

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Speaker 1: powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be news Talks, It'll be fifteen past eight. Morris

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Speaker 2: and I is the documentary. Rick Harvey is the producer, director,

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Speaker 2: Well one thing important I think to point out, Rick,

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Speaker 2: will you answer me this question first? Is it the

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01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 2: interior that's as remarkable as the exterior or the exterior

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01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 2: beats the interior, or is it both?

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Speaker 15: I would say it's the question. Stand Hall is one

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Speaker 15: of those places that well, it's it's inside out really,

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Speaker 15: so the whole brutalists if you like, as as as

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Speaker 15: the form follows the function, you build the you know,

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Speaker 15: you designed the concert hall, and if it happens to

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Speaker 15: need concrete walls and it looks quite bruckless on the outside,

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01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 15: it was so bad. And that's that's I guess that's

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Speaker 15: why a little bit controversial at the time. I think

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Speaker 15: Myles was saying that, you know people that said that

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Speaker 15: the maximum security prisoner was being built in the in

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Speaker 15: the center of christ Church. But yeah, so that's right.

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Speaker 15: It's but you know, it's gray and quite sort of

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Speaker 15: a dure on the outside, but when you come inside,

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Speaker 15: it's you know, much reds And yeah, how.

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Speaker 2: Did they I don't know if you delved into this

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Speaker 2: part of it. But the reason I raised Lewis Khan

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01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 2: was because his big thing was he just did concepts,

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Speaker 2: and so when he tended he said, there's my concept,

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01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 2: but often his concept was about one hundred times more

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Speaker 2: than the budget. How did they how did warrant and

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Speaker 2: money be How were they able to do what they did,

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01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 2: not just with the town Hall but generally within presumably

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Speaker 2: the budgets of the time.

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Speaker 15: I think they they used the materials that were available

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Speaker 15: to them at the time. And if that was you know,

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Speaker 15: concrete block, then so be it. So you know, the

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Speaker 15: sort of the bold ideas were often sketched and watercolored

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Speaker 15: by by Miles and you know, and the documentary he

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Speaker 15: says that he you know, Morris says that he could

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Speaker 15: dream up an idea overnight, so he has the idea.

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Speaker 15: But but yeah, I think being quite realistic as well

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Speaker 15: and running a business, you've got to Yeah, you've got

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01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 15: to you've got to sit to a budget.

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Speaker 2: Now, you've got to make it dad up. I know

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Speaker 2: Jerry Brown's in there because he had an instrumental role

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Speaker 2: in post quite christ Church. And your message there about

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Speaker 2: fast tracking is interesting because broadly speaking, and I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's lucky you didn't make a documentary about the cathedral

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01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 2: because it'll still be going obviously that's right. But but

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Speaker 2: there is something about the we've got to get on

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01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 2: with life versus doing it properly. So the message there

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Speaker 2: about fast tracking is what.

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Speaker 15: I suppose it's. I mean, we've we really wanted to

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Speaker 15: talk to to Jerry because I mean everyone in the

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Speaker 15: original sort of interviews, a lot of people keep keep

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Speaker 15: mentioning him, so we thought it was really important for

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Speaker 15: him to have have a say, and he had a

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Speaker 15: lot of hard sitons to make at the time. So yeah,

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Speaker 15: I just wanted to ask him about that really, and

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Speaker 15: you know what, what what was going through his mind

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Speaker 15: and he says it, you know, there was the forefront

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Speaker 15: of his mind was you know, the safety of people's lives,

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Speaker 15: that the city was facing possible depopulation, and you know,

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Speaker 15: so you know, I mean, you know, I don't know

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Speaker 15: if there's there's a message. I mean, you can watch

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01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 15: the film make him make your own mind up, but

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Speaker 15: we definitely let him have his have a say, and yeah,

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Speaker 15: there's a nice little redemption moment at the end. I

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01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 15: don't know if people need to see the film, where.

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Speaker 2: Where is it that? I mean, how do you get

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01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 2: home all of it now? Because it's been in theaters

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01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 2: and where where do you get access to it?

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Speaker 15: So well, it's just thing in thirty four cinemas around

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01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 15: the country at the moment. So and we're still in

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01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 15: the middle of our you know, it'll probably start dropping off,

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01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 15: but I don't know. You've got a few listeners out there,

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01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 15: so it out there. Now is the time. So that

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01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 15: is pretty much from Kerry Kerry to Belcluther is what

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Speaker 15: we're what we're saying everywhere in between.

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Speaker 2: Good on you, well, congratulations on I thoroughly enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: Go well, and we'll talk again soon hopefully. Rick Harvey,

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Speaker 2: who's producer director of Morris and I and my summation

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Speaker 2: from it is, if you're from christ Church, we'll have

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Speaker 2: a connection to christ Church, very moving. If you had

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Speaker 2: no particular connection to christ Church, still a great story

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01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 2: because Warren and Marney, in my humble opinion, little shorter geniuses.

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01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 2: So it's worth understanding who they are, where they come from.

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01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 2: And that's before you get to Morris's house in Governor's Bay,

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Speaker 2: which is and if you've never seen it, look it

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Speaker 2: up to for twenty minutes past eight, the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Jaguar FBAs News Talks FV.

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Speaker 2: Mike is a christ huge person. This movie is I

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Speaker 2: must see memories and hope for the future wrapped up

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Speaker 2: in a great story. So that's nice, absolutely fantastic doc o. Mike,

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Speaker 2: it is Mike. By this time tomorrow, I'm expecting that

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Speaker 2: one of the worst kept secrets will be confirmed, Liam

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01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 2: Lawson being promoted by Red Bull. Clearly everyone in the

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01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 2: f one Paddick knew that Singapore was Ricardo's last dance

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01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 2: and he looked like a dead man walking, but for

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01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: some reason RB chose to delay the announcement. Now we

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01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 2: just have to see which seat Liam gets because Checko's

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01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 2: still vulnerable. My understanding it is tomorrow, overnight, tonight, tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: and I expressed on the programming today, I have no

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Speaker 2: idea why they've done it the way they're doing it,

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01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 2: but they are Checko safe. Liam will be jettisoned into

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01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 2: the RB seat for the rest of the season with

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01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 2: the possibility and this is more speculation on my part

1515
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 2: than anything else. With the speculation because of course, one

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01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 2: of the rumors we was that Perez might be held

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01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 2: until Mexico for obvious reasons and then let go. But

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Speaker 2: you're not going to let two drivers go in the season,

1519
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 2: mind you Having looked at what he did, came tenth

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Speaker 2: in Singapore, so that's one point. They need a lot

1521
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 2: more than that. And the week before he crashed he

1522
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 2: was running third in a crash, so he got zero points.

1523
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 2: So Max is doing it by himself. They're already behind

1524
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 2: the constructors and so that's where the money is. So

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01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 2: it's a fascinating time. But really, if it's overnight, tonight, tomorrow,

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01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:29,520
Speaker 2: it's just it's just it's one of the great sports

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01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 2: stories in New Zealand sports stories history. Now ACT this

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01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: morning and when it happens, we'll deal with it. Obviously,

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01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 2: ACT has obtained a copy of AUT's policy for funding

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Speaker 2: research travel, where you get thirty percent more points to travel.

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01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,759
Speaker 2: If you're Murray now you might have heard about this already.

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01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,440
Speaker 2: It was on the Mic Hosking Breakfast several days ago

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01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: and I raised it with the leader of the ACT party,

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Speaker 2: David Seymour, who obviously hung up the phone and rent

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01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 2: straight down the hallway to Dr Palm. Jeet Palmer, who

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01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 2: got on to it, says allocating travel funding based on

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01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 2: race is a disrespect to those who would otherwise secure

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01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 2: opportunities based on merit. I think we all agree on

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01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 2: that after hearing reports of the existence of this policy,

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01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 2: that's code for David randalin the hallway. After she had

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01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 2: talked to Mike and told me my office requested a

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Speaker 2: copy of the point system from AUT Wednesday morning, with

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01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 2: no response from the university. Really, I find that hard

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01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 2: to believe. I emailed around five hundred AUT researchers over

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01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: the weekend asking them if they knew about the point

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01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 2: system and if they could provide a copy. This must

1547
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 2: have caused a stir because yesterday morning AUT sent my

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01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 2: office a copy of the point system. Many researchers told

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01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 2: me they were not aware of the point system, which

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01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 2: is not listed publicly and is not easily found on

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01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,879
Speaker 2: internal systems ACT. She continues, will continue to shine sunlight

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01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 2: on the discriminatory use. I also have this morning fresh

1553
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: off my facsimile machine from aut Kia. Aura Co two

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01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 2: may be aware of recent interest in our travel policy,

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01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 2: particularly where Marian Pacific academic staff are recognized. I talked

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01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 2: to the Minister of Tertiary Education last week. That was

1557
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 2: Penny Simmons. We had her on the program as well.

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01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 2: She noted that there was good rationale for the policy.

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01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 2: She also affirmed the autonomy and independence of universities. Now

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01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 2: that technically is sort of true, but you're running a

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01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 2: fairly fine line there, and it's not quite what she said.

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01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 2: But don't let that get in the way of a

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01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: good pr press release. We often need to prioritize says

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01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 2: aut groups to produce equitable outcomes and or meet our

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01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 2: strategic goals. The policy is in line with our recent

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01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: commitments to tatty. Our policies are publicly available through our

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01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:50,679
Speaker 2: policy hub at www dot aut dot ac dot nz

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01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 2: ford slash about slash policy dot hub, so you can

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01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: see why it's a bit hard to get hold of

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01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 2: a how about that address aut dot ac dot nz

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01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 2: Ford's slash about sport slash policy dash hub. Nahmihi kiya

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01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 2: kaha te reo mari krk k. That was Damien who

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01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:13,440
Speaker 2: wrote that. So they are independent, and I defend their independence.

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01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 2: And the bit that I don't like though, is that

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01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 2: they're overt. And you've got to remember where the money

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01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 2: comes from, comes from, you and I and the taxpayer.

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01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 2: And do you and I, as we sit here this morning,

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01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 2: agree that just based on race and race alone and

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01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 2: for no other reason, somebody on that criteria gets a

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01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 2: better deal than anybody else. Surely that is wrong and

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01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 2: do we not agree with that? News for you in

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Speaker 2: a couple of.

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01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: Moments, your trusted source for news and fews, the Mic

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01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:46,440
Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts across residential,

1585
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: commercial and rural news togs EDB Mike.

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Speaker 2: The latest emailer received from red Bull at six seventeen

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Speaker 2: this morning. Under drivers, they list only three verstap and

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Speaker 2: science and Lawson. I assume when you say science you

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01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 2: don't mean science, you mean prayers, unless you do mean science.

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Speaker 2: And something's happened that I haven't seen very interesting. Murray,

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Speaker 2: We're onto it, don't you worry. Totally understand Michael, government

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Speaker 2: sentiments on the WFH director, But what about Wellington, Pori,

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01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 2: rua Hut Valley, suburban s law businesses that have benefited

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01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,719
Speaker 2: from WFH. That was my point earlier on. They're trying

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01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 2: to get better productivity in the public service. It's not

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01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 2: about buying coffee. Because the coffee was brought in per

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01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 2: TONI or the coffee was brought downtown, depending on where

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01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 2: you were, the coffee was still bought. But if you

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01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 2: bring people back to downtown. Downtown will do. But the

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Speaker 2: main point the government are trying to get across is

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01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,959
Speaker 2: you need to be in the office to be more productive,

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01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 2: is their argument twenty two to.

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Speaker 3: Nine International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of

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01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 3: mind for New Zealand Business UK.

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Speaker 2: We go wrong.

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Speaker 4: Little money mate, good.

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Speaker 2: Now there's conference of the Labor Party. Do they spend

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01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 2: a lot of time talking about the freebies as there

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01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 2: are a table of freebies they bring along that you

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01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 2: can grab, or.

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Speaker 4: There's rather to put that on the back burner though

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01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 4: you know this isn't a happy conference. Is It's remarkable

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01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:12,879
Speaker 4: that this is a conference which follows their massive victory

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01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 4: at the July the fourth general election. And what you

1615
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:21,799
Speaker 4: get are senior members of the Labor Party being booed

1616
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 4: as they speak, such as for example, Rachel Reeves Chancellor

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01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 4: because of her decision took up the winter payments to pensioners.

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01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 4: But it's not just that we now we're beginning to

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01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 4: find out just kind of incrementally, moment after moment how

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01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 4: much these guys claimed from, you know, extra mural finances.

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01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 4: So Bridget Phillipson, she didn't only have one fortieth birthday party. Now,

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01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 4: I had a fortieth birthday party and it was down

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01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 4: the pub with some mates. You know, Yes, she had

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01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:09,480
Speaker 4: one which costs fourteen thousand quid. That was the first one.

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01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 4: But then she's admitted another fortieth birthday party also paid

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Speaker 4: for by the same guy, which is a guy called

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01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 4: Lord Ali who was a longtime labor donor and who

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01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 4: paid for another bunch of money. And you know, she says,

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01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 4: along with accusations that she'd been to see Taylors Swift

1630
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 4: free of charge while I had to my kids would

1631
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 4: have been distracted. I haven't seen. It's just remarkable. I

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01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 4: have never known a government deliquest into chaos and greed

1633
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 4: so quickly.

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01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 2: I've lost count of the number of shots I've seen

1635
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 2: of Stamer at the football. Did he atteend anything at

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01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,959
Speaker 2: all apart from the football as leader of the opposition

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01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 2: or was he just at the football permanently.

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01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 4: I think it was at the football permanently, and of

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01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 4: course being at the football enabled him to be at

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01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 4: the football. It's in the guise of the Premier League

1641
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 4: or whoever paid for him to sit in a special box.

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01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,600
Speaker 4: It's just remarkable. I don't know why you need to

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01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 4: sit in a special box at Arsenal. Nobody said anything anyway,

1644
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,879
Speaker 4: no one cheers. It's just the kind of North London.

1645
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 4: It's kind of like a North London church where you're

1646
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 4: silent for ninety minutes. But you know, it's just I

1647
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 4: have genuinely never know that, genuinely never known a government

1648
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 4: succumbs so quickly to this stuff, and don't forget that

1649
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 4: this was what won them the election. That we are

1650
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:53,440
Speaker 4: not chances, we're not going to trouser money for ourselves.

1651
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 4: We don't believe that we should live differently to you.

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01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 4: Lot they do, a lot of them.

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Speaker 2: I was watching Angela on the television explaining this are

1654
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 2: le is he the only donor? And how many millions

1655
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 2: has he given? But I was watching Angela on the telly,

1656
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 2: and she was busy explaining his flat in New York

1657
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 2: was very useful when she went there for a holiday

1658
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. This line she and the other

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01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 2: scene to run that it wasn't against the rules or

1660
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 2: they did. Let somebody know, does that float or not?

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01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 4: I don't think in the end that it does. I mean,

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01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 4: it's not simply that Angela Rayner is able to take

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01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 4: you know, these holidays in New York, which you know,

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01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind if I'm honest, and I'm someone who

1665
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 4: might have voted labor in jolo course if I wasn't standing.

1666
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 4: But it's also we've just found out she spent sixty

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01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 4: eight thousand quid of taxpayers money. This is Angela Rainer

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01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 4: on on a photographer to make her look good. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, you just this is beyond computation. If Boris

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01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 4: Johnson had done that, there would have been outrage, and

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01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 4: I think there's outrage now exactly.

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Speaker 2: David Lammey, where are we at with the criticism.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's very difficult to express. This is a

1674
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 4: man who, when he was on a Mastermind Celebrity Mastermind

1675
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 4: back in two thousand and seven, thought that the woman

1676
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 4: who'd won the Nobel Prize for Physics in two thousand

1677
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 4: and three was Marie Antoinette. You know this. He is

1678
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 4: possibly the thickest person ever to have held high office

1679
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 4: in the United Kingdom. And what he's done recently. Firstly,

1680
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 4: he's alienated the USA and Israel by deciding that Britain

1681
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 4: needs to withdraw it's okaying for Israel to use certain

1682
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 4: weapons and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But he's

1683
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 4: also managed to out rage the Armenians by saying that

1684
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 4: as by John was a liberating country, it's just you

1685
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 4: have this is This isn't just Forrest Gump. This is

1686
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 4: rain Man. You know. This is a man with absolutely

1687
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 4: no grasp, no intellect, no wit, and he is our

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01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 4: foreign secretary. Good luck?

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01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,759
Speaker 2: All right, might go, well, we catch up on Thursday.

1690
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Rod little out of the UK standby

1691
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,839
Speaker 2: fresh polls straight off the presses in a moment seventeen

1692
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Speaker 2: to nine.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio

1694
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: powered by News Talks it be.

1695
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Speaker 2: That's why from nine, I'll give you the numbers out

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01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 2: of the states on the poll taken between seventeen twenty

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01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 2: and twenty one September seventeen and twenty one, so it's fresh.

1698
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 2: It deals with Arizona, George, et cetera. Anyway, I come

1699
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 2: to the numbers. He's been Trump has been in Smithton

1700
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 2: and Pennsylvania this morning. He was trying to talk about

1701
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 2: China and terrorists. But often when he starts off on

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01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 2: a subject that sort of it doesn't stay on the subject.

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01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 22: So then brought an now the weakest border in history.

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01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 22: It was the best border we ever had. When I

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01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 22: was there, we built hundreds of miles of wall and

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01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 22: everything else, and it was the best border now. So

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01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,560
Speaker 22: weecause I had a handshake deal with him, it was

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01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 22: going to happen very quickly. And then this side didn't

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Speaker 22: didn't do anything about it, he said, And he suggested

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01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 22: to me, anybody sends fentanyl to the United States, it's

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Speaker 22: the death penalty. They get the maximum penalty. They would

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01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 22: have done it. And then we had an election that

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01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 22: didn't exactly work out too good, and it was a disgrace, frankly,

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01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 22: And that deal went and a lot of other bad

1715
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 22: things happened, like Russia attacking Ukraine, October seventh, inflation, A

1716
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 22: lot of bad things happened, the horrible way we got

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Speaker 22: out of Afghanistan. So many things happened that wouldn't have happened.

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01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of bad things, so many bad things.

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01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 15: That election was a disgrice, by.

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Speaker 2: The way, so many bad things. The election. He built

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01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,759
Speaker 2: fifty two miles aboard us, not exactly the whole anyway,

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01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 2: here's the poll out this morning. We're dealing with Arizona,

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01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 2: Trump leads forty eight forty three, so that's outside the

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01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 2: margin era, so it's a good number. Forty eight forty

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01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 2: three in Arizona, Georgia forty seven forty four, inside the

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01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 2: margin of era at three points of significant. North Carolina

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01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 2: forty seven forty five, Trump over Harris in each of

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01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 2: those poles. Mike, if you're doing your weekly NFL round up,

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01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 2: please don't forget the Bikings three nail starter. I was

1730
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 2: chatting with a friend from Seattle yesterday and I told

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01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 2: him about the Bikings and this is our year. He

1732
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 2: replied to you're channeling, you're in a warrior. I'm surprised

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01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 2: he'd heard of this quote in North America, Mike. If

1734
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,839
Speaker 2: you look at the NFL, which I was watching yesterday

1735
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 2: because I'm in love with Kirk Cousins after watching the

1736
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 2: Netflix program Quarterback. Anyway, he's at the Falcons these days,

1737
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 2: and they were about to beat the Chiefs, but they didn't.

1738
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 2: Such as the way, you've only got four teams left,

1739
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,480
Speaker 2: your Bikings, You got your Chiefs, your Steelers, and your Seahawks,

1740
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 2: who are three and zero. So three weeks in thirty

1741
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 2: two teams only four of the thirty two have an

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01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 2: unbeaten record so far, So it's going to be one

1743
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:06,639
Speaker 2: of those super exciting seasons I think, where anything could happen.

1744
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 2: Turn away from nine.

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01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Estate and News Talks,

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01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: Vy and Peace.

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Speaker 2: A read the other day from The New York Times

1748
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,520
Speaker 2: Why so Many? Speaking of the poll in the aforementioned

1749
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 2: why so many Americans are still undecided about who to

1750
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 2: vote for? They conclude, look it up. It's well worth reading,

1751
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 2: and they sort of argue their case relatively well. But

1752
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 2: they conclude by saying, to the undecided voter, this isn't

1753
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 2: a simple choice between stability and peril. It's a choice

1754
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 2: between two candidates and coalitions that, for different reasons, don't

1755
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 2: merit public confidence. And in a democracy, if you keep

1756
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 2: offering voters too bad choices, you shouldn't be surprised that

1757
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 2: they will often choose the one you are sure as worse.

1758
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 2: Sums it up nicely, doesn't it, Mike. We run a

1759
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 2: team building company in Mattakana. Must be Good Life. Matticana's

1760
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 2: Beautiful started in two thousand and four. We're now seeing

1761
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 2: corporate groups arrive with staff members who have never met

1762
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 2: Some have worked for their organizations for four years. Their

1763
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 2: ability to work as functional teams as well below the

1764
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 2: average of those who daily engage with their fellow workers.

1765
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 2: Isn't that good? Max? Well done? You never met worked

1766
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 2: for the company for four years?

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01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 4: Min?

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01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 2: I just suppose that's corporate, isn't. Internationally, if you work

1769
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 2: for an international operator, chances are you've never met I.

1770
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 14: I've worked with Richard Arnold for yeah, good point twenty

1771
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 14: three years more slightly more than there, and I've never

1772
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 14: met him.

1773
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 2: No, So what's your problem? Don't raise your problems with us,

1774
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,560
Speaker 2: klint Well, especially at this time the program when we

1775
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 2: don't have time to deal with them properly. Thanks for

1776
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 2: introducing and indoctrinating me over time to the American football

1777
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 2: and Formula one racing is not Christian Horner, a narcissist

1778
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 2: and very frustrating person. Lilliam should tell them to get stuffed.

1779
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:51,719
Speaker 2: I don't think Liam's going to tell them to get stuffed.

1780
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 2: I tell you what. Two things that I've really reveled

1781
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 2: in and enjoyed so far this week and it's only Tuesday.

1782
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 2: One was Aaron Rodgers watching him last fright as the

1783
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 2: New York Jets quarterback play for the first time unhindered

1784
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 2: by any sort of injury, and they had a fabulous win.

1785
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 2: And he's just such a class act to watch. If

1786
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 2: you ever want to in revel in watching people at

1787
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,719
Speaker 2: their very best, look at him. He is so cool.

1788
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 2: And then yesterday I watched Daniel Riccardo as he got

1789
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 2: interviewed a number of times about his departure from F

1790
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 2: one in that kind of I know, you know, we

1791
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 2: know that, you know you know that we can't say

1792
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:30,959
Speaker 2: kind of way and talk about hold yourself with dignity,

1793
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 2: And it's no wonder everyone loves him because he is

1794
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 2: such an engaging, likable person and it's only in the

1795
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 2: worst of times that the best of you comes out.

1796
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 2: And you saw the best of Daniel Ricardo yesterday and

1797
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 2: he handled it as well as, if not better than

1798
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 2: you could ever possibly dream. And then the subplot was

1799
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 2: Max for Stappan and Max for Stappan who comes across

1800
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:57,719
Speaker 2: if you follow F one is a very robotic, hard ass,

1801
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 2: take no prisoners, and that many respects is why here's

1802
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 2: the champion. He years is actually I think a nice guy.

1803
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson has spoken very kindly of him previously, has

1804
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 2: been one of the few who shows an interest in

1805
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 2: younger drivers. And I won't explain it, but Ricotta had

1806
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 2: a bad time in Japan a couple of months back.

1807
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 2: The only driver reached out to him was for Stapping again,

1808
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 2: who texted him and said, don't worry about it. Don't

1809
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 2: listen to them. You're better than that. And so it's

1810
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 2: just nice to see that, you know, behind the facade,

1811
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 2: it's like me, a lot of people don't think that

1812
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 2: I'm a nice guy. Five Tonight Trending.

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Speaker 2: Now chrome cast Google chrome Cast, which is your dongle,

1815
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Speaker 2: and you take your This is.

1816
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,719
Speaker 14: Just a minefield, is that you're about to talk about

1817
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 14: a whole lot of stuff that you've got no idea

1818
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 14: what you're talking about.

1819
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 2: You take your dongle and you plug it and anyway,

1820
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 2: it's over. As of today, they've got the Google TV Streamer,

1821
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 2: which is a set top box. You get another stop

1822
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,759
Speaker 2: box to go with your nine hundred other sit top boxes.

1823
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,679
Speaker 2: And yes it's more powerful, and yes it's got nine

1824
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 2: lenses as a camera, and yes you can fly it

1825
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 2: in order from Amazon and get pizza delivered. See Scott

1826
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 2: Brown from Android authority He's got the wood.

1827
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 23: Google has also fully redesigned the remote. The remote now

1828
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,679
Speaker 23: has a taller shape to it, it has more buttons

1829
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 23: than before. The volume buttons have moved from the side

1830
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 23: of the controller to the top, which is a move

1831
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 23: that I really appreciate. And there's a new customizable button

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01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 23: that can launch your favorite streaming app, switch the inputs

1833
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 23: on your TV, or even launch the Google Home app

1834
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 23: on the back of the device itself. There's also a

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01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 23: USBC port that's specifically just for power. You have an

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01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 23: Ethernet port, which is a nice touch Google, thank you

1837
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 23: so much for including that. And this button right here

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01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 23: will allow you to find your remote. If you tap

1839
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 23: the button, it makes your remote emit a chirping sound,

1840
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 23: which will help you find it if it happens to

1841
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 23: get lost in any of your couch cushions.

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01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: In your couch cushions. Thank you.

1843
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 14: Somebody who reviews tech can't say the word button.

1844
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 2: No, it's how much is it? It seems cheap? Is

1845
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:12,679
Speaker 2: it cheap? It seems cheap? The Google TV streamer it's

1846
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 2: out in stores now. It's cheaper than the iPhone sixteen.

1847
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 14: By some considerable man.

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01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 2: So at one hundred and eighty dollars, I think I'm

1849
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 2: going to buy the Google TV streamer. Does it do

1850
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 2: calls and texts or not? Anyway, that's us for the day.

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01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 2: Happy Days.

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