1 00:00:07,173 --> 00:00:10,493 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,773 Speaker 1: from News Talks at be. 3 00:00:13,133 --> 00:00:16,053 Speaker 2: Mike Hardley is our travel correspondent. He's taking us on 4 00:00:16,093 --> 00:00:19,373 Speaker 2: a trip this morning through the great outdoors on the 5 00:00:19,373 --> 00:00:22,253 Speaker 2: Sunshine Post. Hey Mike, Good morning Jack. 6 00:00:22,293 --> 00:00:23,973 Speaker 3: I was just going to say, with respect to the 7 00:00:24,013 --> 00:00:27,373 Speaker 3: New York Times and Biden, I actually think Jill Biden 8 00:00:27,453 --> 00:00:30,173 Speaker 3: holds the key here to pulling the ripcord, and I'm 9 00:00:30,213 --> 00:00:33,733 Speaker 3: just amazed that she still seems to be insisting he say, 10 00:00:34,453 --> 00:00:37,573 Speaker 3: in the race, At what point is this verge on 11 00:00:37,733 --> 00:00:40,133 Speaker 3: looking like elder abuse. Yeah, I. 12 00:00:41,813 --> 00:00:45,133 Speaker 2: Think it does risk being really humiliating for him, and 13 00:00:45,173 --> 00:00:48,213 Speaker 2: for someone who's really cherished, you know, and has good 14 00:00:48,213 --> 00:00:52,893 Speaker 2: reason to cherish his record in public life and public service. 15 00:00:53,933 --> 00:00:57,053 Speaker 2: I think there's a huge risk that he completely destroys 16 00:00:57,133 --> 00:01:01,493 Speaker 2: that reputation by making the wrong decision here and look 17 00:01:02,533 --> 00:01:05,733 Speaker 2: behind closed doors, just to imagine the kind of conversations 18 00:01:05,733 --> 00:01:07,493 Speaker 2: that are happening by hind closed doors in the upper 19 00:01:07,493 --> 00:01:10,053 Speaker 2: echelons of power around the White House at the moment, 20 00:01:10,133 --> 00:01:12,013 Speaker 2: Because you know, I was amazing to look at the 21 00:01:12,093 --> 00:01:15,813 Speaker 2: Joe Biden, you know, after the debate last night, when 22 00:01:15,893 --> 00:01:17,733 Speaker 2: Joe Biden came managed she was hosting him with a 23 00:01:17,733 --> 00:01:21,813 Speaker 2: support party, and she was like, oh, great to go, Joe. 24 00:01:21,933 --> 00:01:26,773 Speaker 2: You answered all the questions. I was like, yeah, yeah, 25 00:01:27,173 --> 00:01:29,933 Speaker 2: good on you, since we're asked. But I just, yeah, 26 00:01:29,973 --> 00:01:32,293 Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think I'm sure. I'm sure 27 00:01:32,333 --> 00:01:35,533 Speaker 2: those people closest to him kind of hold the key here, 28 00:01:35,853 --> 00:01:39,893 Speaker 2: including you know, his wife and and also his senior advisors, 29 00:01:39,933 --> 00:01:42,853 Speaker 2: because nothing about the performance made me think that he has, 30 00:01:43,093 --> 00:01:46,013 Speaker 2: you know, any real likelihood of beating truck. And that's 31 00:01:46,053 --> 00:01:47,773 Speaker 2: I've got to be honest, you know, that's a totally 32 00:01:47,813 --> 00:01:50,733 Speaker 2: different position than one I previously had. I had previously 33 00:01:50,733 --> 00:01:52,493 Speaker 2: you know, a year ago, I thought he's probably got it, 34 00:01:52,533 --> 00:01:55,373 Speaker 2: he's probably got it. But then seeing that last night 35 00:01:55,493 --> 00:01:59,973 Speaker 2: was just the deathmail for me. It was a yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, 36 00:02:00,093 --> 00:02:02,573 Speaker 2: we'll wait and see what happens. I just think the 37 00:02:02,693 --> 00:02:06,253 Speaker 2: Dems have to be relieved that there's a bit of time. 38 00:02:06,693 --> 00:02:09,893 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I mean they're better time. Not 39 00:02:10,013 --> 00:02:12,773 Speaker 2: a whole lot, but it's a little bit, you know. 40 00:02:12,933 --> 00:02:14,973 Speaker 3: Just the ones we're ligning to having an early debate. 41 00:02:15,093 --> 00:02:18,693 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, anyway, So, like I say, we're focusing 42 00:02:18,773 --> 00:02:21,013 Speaker 2: on the great outdoors on the Sunshine Coast this morning. 43 00:02:21,053 --> 00:02:23,453 Speaker 2: And there are more direct services these days right connecting 44 00:02:23,493 --> 00:02:24,813 Speaker 2: New Zealand to the Sunshine Coast. 45 00:02:25,573 --> 00:02:28,693 Speaker 3: Indeed, yeah, I think it underscores the growing love affair 46 00:02:28,973 --> 00:02:31,133 Speaker 3: we seem to have with the region. So in New 47 00:02:31,253 --> 00:02:35,573 Speaker 3: Zealand start their direct flights this week from Auckland to 48 00:02:35,613 --> 00:02:39,093 Speaker 3: Maruchi door and Jetstar is part of a big announcement 49 00:02:39,133 --> 00:02:41,493 Speaker 3: a week or so ago. They will be flying the 50 00:02:41,573 --> 00:02:45,533 Speaker 3: route from later this year. So the welcome mat to 51 00:02:45,573 --> 00:02:48,773 Speaker 3: the Sunshine Coast is being very thickly laid out to Jack. 52 00:02:48,973 --> 00:02:52,933 Speaker 2: Yeah, nice. Any mountains take your fancy, Well, this. 53 00:02:53,013 --> 00:02:56,173 Speaker 3: Is the thing. You've got one hundred kilometers of glittering 54 00:02:56,173 --> 00:02:59,973 Speaker 3: beaches at your disposal. But don't just throw your togs 55 00:03:00,013 --> 00:03:03,413 Speaker 3: in the suitcase, because there are some seriously seenic mountain 56 00:03:03,413 --> 00:03:07,493 Speaker 3: trails worth packing your boots. For. Two, you'll definitely want 57 00:03:07,533 --> 00:03:11,733 Speaker 3: to shmooze with the Sunshine Coasts rock Stars, those eleven 58 00:03:11,853 --> 00:03:16,693 Speaker 3: thrusting vertical rocky columns that comprise the Glasshouse Mountains. There 59 00:03:16,693 --> 00:03:19,653 Speaker 3: are so many trails you can take, but my favorite, 60 00:03:19,693 --> 00:03:23,733 Speaker 3: the one I would highly recommend, is the Mount Nunu hike. 61 00:03:24,613 --> 00:03:26,893 Speaker 3: And the reason for that is because it's got this 62 00:03:27,173 --> 00:03:31,133 Speaker 3: central position in that parade of mountain sisters. So you 63 00:03:31,373 --> 00:03:35,413 Speaker 3: just feel immersed in all of that glasshouse glory. When 64 00:03:35,413 --> 00:03:37,253 Speaker 3: you get to the top of Mount Nunu and it's 65 00:03:37,493 --> 00:03:40,973 Speaker 3: it's it's not hard work that walk. It's got a 66 00:03:41,013 --> 00:03:44,573 Speaker 3: few short, short steep sections, but it's certainly not strenuous. 67 00:03:44,653 --> 00:03:45,413 Speaker 2: Oh very good. 68 00:03:45,693 --> 00:03:50,693 Speaker 3: How about Coolam, Yes, north of Malulabar. I'm sure many 69 00:03:50,733 --> 00:03:52,893 Speaker 3: people who have been over to the Sunshine Coast when 70 00:03:52,933 --> 00:03:55,213 Speaker 3: they've been the Malula Bar, they look to the north 71 00:03:55,253 --> 00:03:58,253 Speaker 3: and they can see Mount Coolam. It's like this volcanic 72 00:03:58,493 --> 00:04:03,213 Speaker 3: dome rising up from the coastline. Quite dramatic really. But 73 00:04:03,333 --> 00:04:05,293 Speaker 3: the funny thing is, and I do know Kiwi snigger 74 00:04:05,333 --> 00:04:10,333 Speaker 3: about this mountains in Australia. Now Mount Coolam. It's altitude 75 00:04:10,373 --> 00:04:13,373 Speaker 3: tops out at just two hundred meters, but it's a mountain. 76 00:04:15,333 --> 00:04:18,813 Speaker 3: The thing about it, though, is it's a twenty five 77 00:04:19,093 --> 00:04:22,333 Speaker 3: million year old lack alith. You don't come across a 78 00:04:22,373 --> 00:04:26,253 Speaker 3: laculithe every day, Jack, And even though it's only two 79 00:04:26,293 --> 00:04:29,453 Speaker 3: hundred meters, it is amazing the perspective going up two 80 00:04:29,573 --> 00:04:33,253 Speaker 3: hundred meters can give you. You get the most irresistible 81 00:04:33,893 --> 00:04:37,493 Speaker 3: wrap around panorama of the Sunshine coast when you are 82 00:04:37,613 --> 00:04:41,533 Speaker 3: on top of Mount Coolam and both walks, both Mount 83 00:04:41,653 --> 00:04:44,293 Speaker 3: Munu and Mount Coolam, you can knock both of those 84 00:04:44,333 --> 00:04:48,093 Speaker 3: off in about ninety minutes. Definitely do them early in 85 00:04:48,133 --> 00:04:49,733 Speaker 3: the day. Beat the heat. 86 00:04:50,133 --> 00:04:50,493 Speaker 1: Ah. 87 00:04:50,813 --> 00:04:53,293 Speaker 2: Okay, that's even in winter. You reckon. That's a that's 88 00:04:53,293 --> 00:04:54,933 Speaker 2: a key. Or maybe might not be so bad this 89 00:04:55,013 --> 00:04:55,533 Speaker 2: time of year. 90 00:04:56,173 --> 00:04:58,053 Speaker 3: It's amazing. When I was over there a couple of 91 00:04:58,053 --> 00:05:02,053 Speaker 3: weeks ago, the days start off in June July August 92 00:05:02,093 --> 00:05:05,453 Speaker 3: at about you know, six seven degrees, pretty fresh, but 93 00:05:05,733 --> 00:05:09,613 Speaker 3: by eleven o'clock she is tweety three, twenty four, twenty 94 00:05:09,613 --> 00:05:12,053 Speaker 3: five degree. Yeah, oh yes, go early. 95 00:05:12,293 --> 00:05:16,653 Speaker 2: Yeah, excuse my ignorance here, Yes, what's a lack of liith? 96 00:05:19,333 --> 00:05:23,773 Speaker 3: Well, from my schedule understanding, a laclith is formed by 97 00:05:23,813 --> 00:05:29,493 Speaker 3: a whole lot of magma pressing upwards and the rock, 98 00:05:29,573 --> 00:05:33,093 Speaker 3: the ignis rock forms into a dome like shape, and 99 00:05:33,133 --> 00:05:35,173 Speaker 3: that's that's what Mount Coola is. 100 00:05:35,173 --> 00:05:38,213 Speaker 2: Okay, very good. So I'm really putting you on this 101 00:05:38,253 --> 00:05:42,893 Speaker 2: one here. How do you spell it? L A C 102 00:05:43,413 --> 00:05:44,893 Speaker 2: C okay. 103 00:05:44,773 --> 00:05:48,733 Speaker 3: C c O l I t h LACKO lift. 104 00:05:50,733 --> 00:05:54,653 Speaker 2: A list o l A list Okay, yes, no, very good. 105 00:05:54,853 --> 00:06:00,173 Speaker 2: It's an igneous intrusion. Very good. Do you go all learning? 106 00:06:00,373 --> 00:06:02,333 Speaker 3: Okay, I have won the lound sweet. 107 00:06:02,453 --> 00:06:05,933 Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. Mike, that's a that's super impressive. Okay. 108 00:06:06,413 --> 00:06:07,693 Speaker 2: Where is good for whale watching? 109 00:06:09,293 --> 00:06:12,973 Speaker 3: Go out with Sunnery from Malula Bar and over the 110 00:06:13,013 --> 00:06:15,853 Speaker 3: course of four hours you will be treated to the 111 00:06:15,893 --> 00:06:20,293 Speaker 3: most magnificent spectacle of humpbacks at play. Lots of juveniles 112 00:06:20,653 --> 00:06:24,173 Speaker 3: in particular, and true to form, Jack, when you think juvenile, 113 00:06:24,213 --> 00:06:28,653 Speaker 3: you think show off. Yes, very flamboyant. With the breaching 114 00:06:28,693 --> 00:06:33,213 Speaker 3: of the water off Malulabar, these juveniles, as you mentioned 115 00:06:33,213 --> 00:06:37,613 Speaker 3: before eleven about whale counting really interesting now the waters 116 00:06:37,613 --> 00:06:41,453 Speaker 3: off Malulabarb, obviously they form part of Australia's humpback Highway. 117 00:06:42,133 --> 00:06:46,693 Speaker 3: Typically they play host of forty thousand humpbacks cruising up 118 00:06:46,773 --> 00:06:50,613 Speaker 3: from Antarctica to breed and give booth. The Sunshinme coast 119 00:06:50,693 --> 00:06:54,493 Speaker 3: population is growing at about ten percent a year, which 120 00:06:54,533 --> 00:06:59,573 Speaker 3: is pretty impressive. So the other amazing insight I gleaned 121 00:06:59,973 --> 00:07:03,453 Speaker 3: when I was out with sun Reef satellite tracking has 122 00:07:03,493 --> 00:07:08,893 Speaker 3: been observing their migratory path incredibly consistent, so they stick 123 00:07:08,933 --> 00:07:13,333 Speaker 3: to the same north south track within one degree year 124 00:07:13,413 --> 00:07:16,573 Speaker 3: on year on a ten thousand kilometer return swamp. That 125 00:07:16,733 --> 00:07:19,093 Speaker 3: is pretty good navigation, isn't it one degree? 126 00:07:19,453 --> 00:07:24,373 Speaker 2: One degree? That's extraordinary. Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. Okay. What 127 00:07:24,533 --> 00:07:27,293 Speaker 2: makes Caloundra such a popular holiday base? 128 00:07:28,133 --> 00:07:30,773 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would really recommend it because I think it 129 00:07:30,813 --> 00:07:34,253 Speaker 3: has been somewhat underrated by Kiwi's as a holiday hot spot. 130 00:07:35,293 --> 00:07:37,733 Speaker 3: But it's the southern bell of the Sunshine Coast, so 131 00:07:37,773 --> 00:07:41,533 Speaker 3: it's botimlulabar. But the thing about Caloundra they have got 132 00:07:41,533 --> 00:07:45,773 Speaker 3: the most insane abundance of beaches and bays fringing the 133 00:07:45,773 --> 00:07:49,893 Speaker 3: town and the headland. For example, there was this gorgeous 134 00:07:49,893 --> 00:07:52,933 Speaker 3: little beach to the south called Golden Beach and it 135 00:07:53,013 --> 00:07:56,413 Speaker 3: edches the waterway that separates Calounder from the tip of 136 00:07:56,573 --> 00:08:01,053 Speaker 3: Bribe Island. So it's very smooth water and it's such 137 00:08:01,053 --> 00:08:03,173 Speaker 3: a great spot to do a bit of kayaking and 138 00:08:03,213 --> 00:08:05,533 Speaker 3: if you want a side serving of wildlife while you're 139 00:08:05,573 --> 00:08:09,373 Speaker 3: doing your kayaking, so many wading birds. You'll be floating 140 00:08:09,373 --> 00:08:12,613 Speaker 3: along with pelicans on a we float. You know, it's 141 00:08:12,653 --> 00:08:15,653 Speaker 3: just so cool. And then in the center of town, 142 00:08:15,693 --> 00:08:19,933 Speaker 3: in Caloundra, King's Beach, Queensland is right. This is one 143 00:08:19,973 --> 00:08:22,813 Speaker 3: of the all time family favorite beaches of the state. 144 00:08:22,933 --> 00:08:25,013 Speaker 3: And at the end of the beach the most spectacular 145 00:08:25,053 --> 00:08:28,333 Speaker 3: ocean pools complex and it's adorned with sail shades so 146 00:08:28,373 --> 00:08:29,973 Speaker 3: if it's getting really hot on the day, you can 147 00:08:30,053 --> 00:08:34,173 Speaker 3: still swim in seawater in these ocean pools and the 148 00:08:34,293 --> 00:08:36,613 Speaker 3: free to use. So that really is a crowning jewel 149 00:08:36,613 --> 00:08:37,173 Speaker 3: of Caloundra. 150 00:08:37,333 --> 00:08:39,733 Speaker 2: Oh nice. And how big and how long is their 151 00:08:39,773 --> 00:08:40,693 Speaker 2: coastal pathway? 152 00:08:41,573 --> 00:08:45,933 Speaker 3: Oh wow? What a wop are twenty five kilometers all 153 00:08:45,973 --> 00:08:48,933 Speaker 3: around the tucks and folds of Caloundra. So whether you're 154 00:08:48,933 --> 00:08:52,493 Speaker 3: on foot or by bike, it is such a magnificent 155 00:08:52,573 --> 00:08:54,693 Speaker 3: pathway and it will take you to all of those 156 00:08:54,773 --> 00:08:59,013 Speaker 3: fabulous beaches they have like Shelley and Moffatt, Golden Kings, 157 00:08:59,413 --> 00:09:04,013 Speaker 3: Dicky Beach. There's this fantastic memorial up on the headland 158 00:09:04,493 --> 00:09:07,773 Speaker 3: just past King's Beach called Intaur Park, and I mean 159 00:09:07,853 --> 00:09:10,693 Speaker 3: it's a great spot for sizzling views. But the memorial 160 00:09:10,733 --> 00:09:13,293 Speaker 3: is to h a Centaur. I've never heard about this, 161 00:09:13,373 --> 00:09:16,213 Speaker 3: but this was an Australian the hospital ship and it 162 00:09:16,373 --> 00:09:18,773 Speaker 3: was sunk just off the coast of Caloundra by a 163 00:09:18,853 --> 00:09:22,093 Speaker 3: Japanese submarine during World War Two. It killed two hundred 164 00:09:22,133 --> 00:09:25,533 Speaker 3: and fifty people. They were basically nervous on a hospital ship. 165 00:09:25,653 --> 00:09:25,853 Speaker 2: Yeah. 166 00:09:26,133 --> 00:09:29,733 Speaker 3: So, yeah, I've done a gorgeous memorial there to the centaur. 167 00:09:30,173 --> 00:09:34,213 Speaker 3: But yeah, make that pathway your holiday highway while you 168 00:09:34,293 --> 00:09:36,373 Speaker 3: gaze out on the humpback highway. Check. 169 00:09:36,573 --> 00:09:39,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very good. Hey, thank you so much, Mike. 170 00:09:39,173 --> 00:09:41,413 Speaker 2: That does sound amazing. I've just googled it too. So 171 00:09:41,613 --> 00:09:45,013 Speaker 2: lac of lots of lacliths everywhere, well not lots xy 172 00:09:45,253 --> 00:09:48,653 Speaker 2: the kind of are on Earth, but apparently heats on 173 00:09:48,693 --> 00:09:52,413 Speaker 2: the moon. Really a lot of lacklists on the Moon 174 00:09:52,693 --> 00:09:53,493 Speaker 2: and some of. 175 00:09:53,453 --> 00:09:54,813 Speaker 3: The some of them. 176 00:09:55,173 --> 00:09:58,573 Speaker 2: Yeah oh really yeah yeah, so there you go. Okay there, 177 00:09:59,173 --> 00:10:03,173 Speaker 2: but also not to be confused with a batholis or 178 00:10:03,213 --> 00:10:07,413 Speaker 2: a lot Oh I know that was concerned to you. Yeah, 179 00:10:07,453 --> 00:10:09,733 Speaker 2: so that you got your lapoliths, your batholis and your 180 00:10:09,813 --> 00:10:14,813 Speaker 2: lack of lists. A lot of lists in geology. Anyway, 181 00:10:14,853 --> 00:10:17,253 Speaker 2: we're all learning. Thank you so much, Milly. All of 182 00:10:17,253 --> 00:10:19,773 Speaker 2: Mike's tips for wintering over in the Sunshine Coast to 183 00:10:19,773 --> 00:10:21,453 Speaker 2: be up on the news talks, he'd be website. 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