1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from News Talks dB. 3 00:00:13,627 --> 00:00:15,627 Speaker 2: The only place for the. 4 00:00:15,427 --> 00:00:21,187 Speaker 1: Big names, the big issues, the big controversies, and the 5 00:00:21,387 --> 00:00:25,547 Speaker 1: big conversations. It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vine 6 00:00:25,947 --> 00:00:28,667 Speaker 1: on your home of Sport News Talks ed B. 7 00:00:30,267 --> 00:00:33,387 Speaker 3: Hello, Kiota, good afternoon, Welcome into Weekend Sport on News 8 00:00:33,427 --> 00:00:37,427 Speaker 3: Talks ed BA. July thirteen, Happy birthday, Emmonie Nadawa. I'm 9 00:00:37,507 --> 00:00:40,547 Speaker 3: Jason Pine Show producer Any McDonald. We're here till three. 10 00:00:40,587 --> 00:00:41,987 Speaker 3: Well that was a lot better, wasn't it? 11 00:00:42,547 --> 00:00:43,907 Speaker 4: And that will be full time. 12 00:00:44,067 --> 00:00:45,147 Speaker 5: That's my stadium. 13 00:00:45,867 --> 00:00:50,907 Speaker 4: Be All Blacks forty three Front seventeen. You're Black Boats 14 00:00:50,947 --> 00:00:55,547 Speaker 4: sooner up in the series and a much improved performance 15 00:00:56,227 --> 00:00:59,267 Speaker 4: and fronts of the Wellington Faithful tonight. 16 00:00:59,187 --> 00:01:02,987 Speaker 3: Are much much much better. All Black's performance Assistant coach 17 00:01:03,227 --> 00:01:06,747 Speaker 3: Talmasey Ellison standing by to lead us off former England's 18 00:01:06,747 --> 00:01:09,587 Speaker 3: international loose for Thomas Waldron with his thoughts after one, 19 00:01:09,867 --> 00:01:12,067 Speaker 3: the postgame thoughts of some of the key players as well, 20 00:01:12,107 --> 00:01:16,227 Speaker 3: but most importantly your thoughts. How different do you feel 21 00:01:16,267 --> 00:01:18,787 Speaker 3: today compared to last Sunday? You might be able to 22 00:01:18,827 --> 00:01:20,587 Speaker 3: pick up my voices of it shot today. I seem 23 00:01:20,627 --> 00:01:22,347 Speaker 3: to have caught a cold somewhere along the line, so 24 00:01:22,747 --> 00:01:24,787 Speaker 3: you can do most of the talking on the rugby 25 00:01:24,827 --> 00:01:27,747 Speaker 3: this afternoon. Will open the lines immediately for your thoughts 26 00:01:28,027 --> 00:01:30,467 Speaker 3: other matters around today lost to cover off the Black Ferns. 27 00:01:30,907 --> 00:01:33,267 Speaker 3: They'll head to the World Cup on a high, beating 28 00:01:33,267 --> 00:01:36,627 Speaker 3: Australia thirty seven to twelve and yesterday's first game in Wellington. 29 00:01:37,067 --> 00:01:40,107 Speaker 3: Assistant coach Tony Christi with us on that after one 30 00:01:40,507 --> 00:01:43,747 Speaker 3: the Black Sox our men's softball team still in contention 31 00:01:44,347 --> 00:01:47,507 Speaker 3: to add to their record seven world titles at the 32 00:01:47,507 --> 00:01:51,667 Speaker 3: World Cup in Canada berg game against Japan this afternoon, 33 00:01:51,667 --> 00:01:53,947 Speaker 3: we'll get you inside their camp before they take to 34 00:01:53,987 --> 00:01:57,707 Speaker 3: the Diamonds. Coaching guru Wayne Goldsmith on the biggest myth 35 00:01:57,867 --> 00:02:03,827 Speaker 3: in sport that parents are enemies Finals weekend at Wimbledon. 36 00:02:04,187 --> 00:02:07,827 Speaker 3: Craig Gabriel After two. James mccony in his regular Sunday 37 00:02:07,827 --> 00:02:10,387 Speaker 3: slot Live Sport this afternoon, will you heard mikayleab Braids 38 00:02:10,427 --> 00:02:13,267 Speaker 3: hearing our sports news. The Warriors women take on the 39 00:02:13,307 --> 00:02:16,147 Speaker 3: Eels of Go Media Stadium from ten to two, their 40 00:02:16,187 --> 00:02:20,027 Speaker 3: first home game since twenty nineteen when that game gets underway. 41 00:02:20,027 --> 00:02:22,307 Speaker 3: We'll keep you updated. And there's test cricket going on 42 00:02:22,427 --> 00:02:25,427 Speaker 3: right now in the West Indies, a pinkball test Western 43 00:02:25,467 --> 00:02:29,227 Speaker 3: He's Australia at Sabina Park. Australia on the toss and 44 00:02:30,107 --> 00:02:33,507 Speaker 3: elected to bat one sixty one for four. They are 45 00:02:34,027 --> 00:02:36,267 Speaker 3: early in the third session, so they're under lights there 46 00:02:36,307 --> 00:02:39,707 Speaker 3: at Sabina Park at the wicket Travis Head and bo 47 00:02:39,867 --> 00:02:43,427 Speaker 3: Webster one sixty one for four. Australia batting first against 48 00:02:43,467 --> 00:02:47,187 Speaker 3: the West Indies. Your calls and correspondents always encouraged and 49 00:02:47,187 --> 00:02:50,067 Speaker 3: that is absolutely no different today. Oh eight hundred and 50 00:02:50,147 --> 00:02:52,667 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. We'll get you through on the phone 51 00:02:52,827 --> 00:02:55,587 Speaker 3: nine two ninety two for your text messages, emails and 52 00:02:55,627 --> 00:02:58,587 Speaker 3: to Jason at NEWSTALKZB dot co dot nz coming up 53 00:02:58,587 --> 00:02:59,867 Speaker 3: ten past midday. 54 00:03:01,227 --> 00:03:04,027 Speaker 1: The schoon from the trag fields and the court on 55 00:03:04,187 --> 00:03:07,427 Speaker 1: your home of sort weekends for what where's Jason? 56 00:03:08,027 --> 00:03:08,867 Speaker 2: You talk me? 57 00:03:09,347 --> 00:03:11,867 Speaker 3: Look to drive away to go down the left hand line. 58 00:03:12,107 --> 00:03:13,827 Speaker 6: What happened there camp right? 59 00:03:13,907 --> 00:03:18,467 Speaker 4: God sneaks away from outside the twenty two and the 60 00:03:18,507 --> 00:03:20,107 Speaker 4: All Blacks for the first. 61 00:03:19,827 --> 00:03:22,747 Speaker 3: Of the night. Yeah, the All Black stumping France forty 62 00:03:22,947 --> 00:03:26,667 Speaker 3: three seventeen and Wellington last night to reclaim the Dave 63 00:03:26,747 --> 00:03:30,827 Speaker 3: Gallaher Trophy for the first time since twenty eighteen. Very 64 00:03:30,907 --> 00:03:34,107 Speaker 3: comprehensive first half, a twenty nine to three lead at 65 00:03:34,147 --> 00:03:36,427 Speaker 3: the break that laid the platform for one of the 66 00:03:36,427 --> 00:03:40,787 Speaker 3: better wins of the Scott Robertson era. All Black's assistant 67 00:03:40,827 --> 00:03:43,867 Speaker 3: coach Tumothy Ellison is with us TMOTY. Thanks for your 68 00:03:43,867 --> 00:03:46,707 Speaker 3: time this afternoon. What were your first thoughts on the 69 00:03:46,747 --> 00:03:49,787 Speaker 3: game when you woke up this morning and had given 70 00:03:49,787 --> 00:03:50,827 Speaker 3: it the overnight test. 71 00:03:52,547 --> 00:03:56,667 Speaker 7: I think we were probably started with better intent than 72 00:03:56,707 --> 00:04:00,827 Speaker 7: the collisions than we did last week. I think we 73 00:04:00,907 --> 00:04:05,067 Speaker 7: found some flow with our tech. Also similar to last week, 74 00:04:05,627 --> 00:04:07,707 Speaker 7: she probably complay needed more the first half. 75 00:04:08,227 --> 00:04:10,507 Speaker 3: If we talk about the improvements that you were really 76 00:04:10,667 --> 00:04:13,347 Speaker 3: hoping for from the team and worked on during the week, 77 00:04:13,987 --> 00:04:16,867 Speaker 3: what were they and how happy were you with the 78 00:04:17,507 --> 00:04:19,907 Speaker 3: step up in those particular areas. 79 00:04:21,147 --> 00:04:23,787 Speaker 7: I think on the defensive side of the ball again, 80 00:04:24,147 --> 00:04:27,507 Speaker 7: around our tent and our tackle height you were seen 81 00:04:27,547 --> 00:04:30,347 Speaker 7: last week and thened and we probably we wrote a 82 00:04:30,387 --> 00:04:33,387 Speaker 7: few too many tackles and against big sides, you know 83 00:04:33,427 --> 00:04:36,307 Speaker 7: they can just eat the game. Lineup and continue to 84 00:04:36,307 --> 00:04:39,587 Speaker 7: play on top of you. So we were happy with 85 00:04:39,587 --> 00:04:42,067 Speaker 7: with parts of that in the first half, which then 86 00:04:43,387 --> 00:04:48,147 Speaker 7: a few more turnovers than that we could attack from 87 00:04:48,227 --> 00:04:48,907 Speaker 7: turnover ball. 88 00:04:49,147 --> 00:04:51,427 Speaker 3: Brian Evans has coming to the coaching group to work 89 00:04:51,467 --> 00:04:54,587 Speaker 3: on line out efficiency, and your first three tries came 90 00:04:54,627 --> 00:04:56,867 Speaker 3: from lineouts. He's earning his money already by the looks 91 00:04:56,867 --> 00:04:57,427 Speaker 3: of things. 92 00:04:57,707 --> 00:05:01,387 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's got a good relationship with Healthie, with Jason Holland, 93 00:05:01,387 --> 00:05:03,507 Speaker 7: and it's great to see it to an area of 94 00:05:03,547 --> 00:05:06,907 Speaker 7: the game where from last year really have an emphasis 95 00:05:06,907 --> 00:05:09,707 Speaker 7: on our strike So it's been nice for both those 96 00:05:09,747 --> 00:05:13,827 Speaker 7: men to work together and give Jesse Ryan some time 97 00:05:13,867 --> 00:05:15,947 Speaker 7: to keep his eyes across other things. 98 00:05:16,187 --> 00:05:18,507 Speaker 3: I think that cam rouyguard try the first one is 99 00:05:19,067 --> 00:05:23,267 Speaker 3: out of the Hurricanes playbook, so Brillivan's obviously going straight 100 00:05:23,267 --> 00:05:25,067 Speaker 3: from the Hurricanes into the All Blacks and bringing the 101 00:05:25,067 --> 00:05:27,827 Speaker 3: same moves with the same same outcomes. 102 00:05:28,227 --> 00:05:32,547 Speaker 7: Yeah, well they got some Hurricanes bones and that that 103 00:05:32,667 --> 00:05:34,827 Speaker 7: strike group with both Brennan and Alfie. 104 00:05:37,147 --> 00:05:41,067 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a beauty two Paul vas try flowing move. 105 00:05:41,467 --> 00:05:43,587 Speaker 3: How much of that Tumty has trained, you know, in 106 00:05:43,667 --> 00:05:47,147 Speaker 3: terms of of attack and how much is that just 107 00:05:47,347 --> 00:05:49,747 Speaker 3: the player's high level skill sets in the heat of 108 00:05:49,747 --> 00:05:50,107 Speaker 3: the moment. 109 00:05:50,747 --> 00:05:53,627 Speaker 7: I think it's both. We have players that have high 110 00:05:53,707 --> 00:05:56,627 Speaker 7: level skill sets, some great footwork and ability to move 111 00:05:56,667 --> 00:05:58,587 Speaker 7: the ball, so that during the working week you have 112 00:05:58,667 --> 00:06:01,827 Speaker 7: to give them opportunity to continue to grow those skill 113 00:06:01,867 --> 00:06:04,507 Speaker 7: sets that they have. So yeah, it was nice to 114 00:06:04,507 --> 00:06:08,307 Speaker 7: see Area punching through and sighting the target and the 115 00:06:08,347 --> 00:06:09,267 Speaker 7: boys getting over there. 116 00:06:09,627 --> 00:06:12,067 Speaker 3: How do you evaluate Billy Proctor's development in the number 117 00:06:12,107 --> 00:06:12,867 Speaker 3: thirteen Jersey? 118 00:06:13,587 --> 00:06:17,507 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's new from some of the adjustments 119 00:06:17,507 --> 00:06:20,747 Speaker 7: and test footy. 120 00:06:20,147 --> 00:06:21,907 Speaker 3: What sort of things in particular. 121 00:06:21,987 --> 00:06:25,867 Speaker 7: I think defensively just working at how much lines but 122 00:06:25,987 --> 00:06:29,787 Speaker 7: he needs to bring and how connector needs to be 123 00:06:29,827 --> 00:06:31,947 Speaker 7: with his insights. You know, one of the best edge 124 00:06:31,947 --> 00:06:36,707 Speaker 7: defenders in Super Ugly without a doubt. So he'll continue 125 00:06:36,747 --> 00:06:39,027 Speaker 7: to grow and make some adjustments. And as a player 126 00:06:39,027 --> 00:06:43,067 Speaker 7: who's hungry to get better, so that will become easier. 127 00:06:43,627 --> 00:06:46,027 Speaker 7: You're taking some of the boys. He's great, nice offset 128 00:06:46,067 --> 00:06:49,187 Speaker 7: a hand, so both those areas will continue to develop. 129 00:06:49,507 --> 00:06:51,187 Speaker 3: A lot of kicking last night, as we knew there 130 00:06:51,227 --> 00:06:52,627 Speaker 3: was going to be, and it's always a bit tricky 131 00:06:52,667 --> 00:06:57,107 Speaker 3: and Wellington with the unique conditions inside Sky stadium. How 132 00:06:57,147 --> 00:07:00,027 Speaker 3: do you assess your kicking game in general terms? 133 00:07:00,547 --> 00:07:02,627 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Body mentioned that halftime. He just he 134 00:07:02,667 --> 00:07:05,347 Speaker 7: pushed a couple a week but long, so they're able 135 00:07:05,427 --> 00:07:09,027 Speaker 7: to mark them a couple opportunities there to bring them 136 00:07:09,027 --> 00:07:11,547 Speaker 7: forward and then go into our tackle plans. But also 137 00:07:11,627 --> 00:07:14,747 Speaker 7: thought we kicked on top really well and Will Jordan 138 00:07:14,747 --> 00:07:16,827 Speaker 7: wiped a few back to back corners and we're able 139 00:07:16,827 --> 00:07:19,947 Speaker 7: to put them under. And there's some pressure with put 140 00:07:19,947 --> 00:07:21,907 Speaker 7: the bouncing ball on a greasy, greezy night. 141 00:07:22,667 --> 00:07:24,587 Speaker 3: Do we need to get rid of this deliberate knockdown 142 00:07:24,667 --> 00:07:25,507 Speaker 3: yellow card rule? 143 00:07:27,627 --> 00:07:28,547 Speaker 8: Oh? 144 00:07:28,627 --> 00:07:31,267 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you have to look at things and 145 00:07:32,147 --> 00:07:34,307 Speaker 7: work out how much time the player had to make 146 00:07:34,347 --> 00:07:38,187 Speaker 7: a decision and versus someone who's defensively in the line 147 00:07:38,227 --> 00:07:42,667 Speaker 7: coming forward. But I think I'm not sure that the 148 00:07:42,747 --> 00:07:46,147 Speaker 7: yellow card part. But I think you have to read 149 00:07:46,147 --> 00:07:49,507 Speaker 7: the situation. That's sure, the context of when it's happened totally. 150 00:07:49,707 --> 00:07:52,187 Speaker 3: Look, I totally get them. If he's knocked it down, 151 00:07:52,187 --> 00:07:54,187 Speaker 3: that's fine, but the yellow card part of it. Body 152 00:07:54,187 --> 00:07:56,027 Speaker 3: even said afterwards, Tommy, he might have hurt his comments. 153 00:07:56,067 --> 00:07:58,307 Speaker 3: You know, he doesn't have time to make that decision. 154 00:07:58,427 --> 00:08:00,107 Speaker 3: And if a player of his caliber doesn't then. 155 00:08:00,067 --> 00:08:03,387 Speaker 9: Who can Yeah, yeah, you're right, Yeah. 156 00:08:03,227 --> 00:08:04,827 Speaker 3: The chance to add another player to the All Blacks 157 00:08:04,827 --> 00:08:07,227 Speaker 3: family last night to Mathy Taata. Now, I came on 158 00:08:07,787 --> 00:08:10,427 Speaker 3: in the first half as as an Hia replacement for 159 00:08:10,507 --> 00:08:13,507 Speaker 3: Jordie and then had you know, another fifteen twenty minutes 160 00:08:13,507 --> 00:08:14,707 Speaker 3: in the second half. What did you make of his 161 00:08:14,747 --> 00:08:15,307 Speaker 3: test debut? 162 00:08:16,467 --> 00:08:18,267 Speaker 7: I thought he got on top. I thought he was 163 00:08:18,307 --> 00:08:21,187 Speaker 7: really keen, especially right at the end of the game 164 00:08:21,227 --> 00:08:25,147 Speaker 7: where I think he had multiple multiple touches and carries 165 00:08:25,187 --> 00:08:28,547 Speaker 7: on the same play. Today was hungry, and I think 166 00:08:29,027 --> 00:08:31,427 Speaker 7: the more opportunity's given them more he'll be able to 167 00:08:31,427 --> 00:08:34,587 Speaker 7: show what was scenery super. He's been great. You know, 168 00:08:34,627 --> 00:08:38,187 Speaker 7: he's really fit it into the group nicely, and I 169 00:08:38,187 --> 00:08:41,307 Speaker 7: think getting the first one under his belt will really 170 00:08:41,347 --> 00:08:41,827 Speaker 7: set him. 171 00:08:41,787 --> 00:08:44,027 Speaker 3: Up as a coaching group and as a playing group. 172 00:08:44,107 --> 00:08:46,707 Speaker 3: I guess, how do you best prepare a player during 173 00:08:47,107 --> 00:08:49,107 Speaker 3: the week leading into his test debut. 174 00:08:50,467 --> 00:08:52,187 Speaker 7: I think the leaders do a really good job of 175 00:08:53,187 --> 00:08:57,747 Speaker 7: setting examples. Your field staff, support the player and his 176 00:08:57,827 --> 00:09:01,787 Speaker 7: family and help them line things up and you know, 177 00:09:01,827 --> 00:09:03,707 Speaker 7: so they can concentrate on what they're really good at. 178 00:09:04,107 --> 00:09:06,267 Speaker 7: And there's a lot more moving parts in a bigger 179 00:09:06,427 --> 00:09:09,107 Speaker 7: and a bigger machine. So we really want them to 180 00:09:10,227 --> 00:09:12,347 Speaker 7: focus on what they're already good at and hopefully that 181 00:09:12,547 --> 00:09:15,187 Speaker 7: that comes easier to them. We've got great leaders, that's 182 00:09:15,227 --> 00:09:18,147 Speaker 7: a great example, so you know that's normally done, and. 183 00:09:18,107 --> 00:09:19,627 Speaker 3: It must be really cool to be able to celebrate 184 00:09:19,667 --> 00:09:21,187 Speaker 3: that sort of thing afterwards. I know, you know you've 185 00:09:21,187 --> 00:09:22,947 Speaker 3: obviously much better when you've had a good win, but 186 00:09:23,347 --> 00:09:25,267 Speaker 3: it must be really cool looking around at a shit 187 00:09:25,307 --> 00:09:28,107 Speaker 3: afterwards and seeing a new guy like him and welcoming 188 00:09:28,427 --> 00:09:29,267 Speaker 3: him in in that way. 189 00:09:30,387 --> 00:09:35,147 Speaker 7: That's amazing. I think everyone remembers the first time and 190 00:09:35,427 --> 00:09:39,627 Speaker 7: the great job. You know, lot off field staff and 191 00:09:39,667 --> 00:09:43,427 Speaker 7: I like to get families involved and make that moment 192 00:09:43,467 --> 00:09:44,107 Speaker 7: really special. 193 00:09:45,187 --> 00:09:47,547 Speaker 3: So we go to Hamilton now for the third Test. 194 00:09:47,907 --> 00:09:50,307 Speaker 3: Does the victory last night Tamata and the series win 195 00:09:50,907 --> 00:09:52,827 Speaker 3: give you a bit more freedom when it comes to 196 00:09:52,907 --> 00:09:55,307 Speaker 3: team selection next week, given guys who haven't had a 197 00:09:55,307 --> 00:09:57,347 Speaker 3: game in this series yet the chance. 198 00:09:57,187 --> 00:09:57,627 Speaker 10: To have one. 199 00:09:59,787 --> 00:10:02,467 Speaker 7: I'm not sure exactly. I think it gives us confidence. 200 00:10:03,907 --> 00:10:05,907 Speaker 7: It gives us some nice energy to go and build 201 00:10:05,907 --> 00:10:08,627 Speaker 7: a build a better week than we had this week. 202 00:10:09,267 --> 00:10:12,787 Speaker 7: I think that's important. We're really clear on where we 203 00:10:12,867 --> 00:10:15,507 Speaker 7: can make improvements in our structure. It's only week two, 204 00:10:16,587 --> 00:10:18,547 Speaker 7: so I think that's what will give us more than anything. 205 00:10:19,467 --> 00:10:21,027 Speaker 3: How much are you growing as a coach in the 206 00:10:21,027 --> 00:10:21,907 Speaker 3: All Black's environment. 207 00:10:23,147 --> 00:10:24,747 Speaker 7: I'm not sure you have to ask the players. 208 00:10:26,667 --> 00:10:27,467 Speaker 3: How are you enjoying it? 209 00:10:27,507 --> 00:10:31,067 Speaker 7: Then? Yeah, I really enjoy it. I enjoy the work. 210 00:10:31,107 --> 00:10:34,507 Speaker 7: It's not for everyone, you know, the late nights. We've 211 00:10:34,507 --> 00:10:36,867 Speaker 7: had Wayne Smith in this week, and you know, he 212 00:10:36,947 --> 00:10:39,747 Speaker 7: said to me last night about one in the morning, 213 00:10:39,947 --> 00:10:44,627 Speaker 7: the back of the tell he never was comfortable as 214 00:10:44,627 --> 00:10:47,187 Speaker 7: an All Black coach. So it's one of those things 215 00:10:47,227 --> 00:10:50,347 Speaker 7: if you want to do it for a reasonable period 216 00:10:50,387 --> 00:10:55,627 Speaker 7: and be successful, it's every day it's turning up. And 217 00:10:55,827 --> 00:10:59,427 Speaker 7: the thing I really enjoy is is making others better. 218 00:10:59,787 --> 00:11:02,187 Speaker 7: You get up and get an opportunity to find something 219 00:11:02,227 --> 00:11:05,227 Speaker 7: in someone's game that you can help improve, and you 220 00:11:05,267 --> 00:11:06,227 Speaker 7: know that's really rewarding. 221 00:11:06,707 --> 00:11:08,467 Speaker 3: I guess we don't see any of that stuff, do we. 222 00:11:08,507 --> 00:11:10,227 Speaker 3: As you say the late nights, I'm sure you're on 223 00:11:10,267 --> 00:11:13,467 Speaker 3: your laptop a lot. You're probably, you know, thinking about 224 00:11:13,587 --> 00:11:15,667 Speaker 3: rugby all the time. All we sees the eighty minutes 225 00:11:15,707 --> 00:11:18,387 Speaker 3: on a Saturday sounds like there's a heck of a 226 00:11:18,387 --> 00:11:20,107 Speaker 3: lot that goes into it during the week. Letting into 227 00:11:20,147 --> 00:11:20,547 Speaker 3: a test. 228 00:11:21,427 --> 00:11:25,027 Speaker 7: Yeah it can be, but but again it's it's what 229 00:11:25,107 --> 00:11:29,027 Speaker 7: the Jersey demands and we understand that the commitment when 230 00:11:29,067 --> 00:11:29,827 Speaker 7: when you sign up. 231 00:11:29,907 --> 00:11:34,187 Speaker 3: So yeah, good man, Tummody, congrats on the win last night. 232 00:11:34,187 --> 00:11:35,467 Speaker 3: All the best for the week ahead as you hit 233 00:11:35,507 --> 00:11:35,947 Speaker 3: to Hamilton. 234 00:11:36,427 --> 00:11:37,667 Speaker 7: Thanks Pony, appreciate the call. 235 00:11:37,747 --> 00:11:40,027 Speaker 3: No, I appreciate you taking the call, Tummoty. Thanks indeed, 236 00:11:40,027 --> 00:11:42,787 Speaker 3: Tumoty Ellison assistant coach or one of the assistant coaches 237 00:11:42,787 --> 00:11:45,827 Speaker 3: in the All Black setup twelve eighteen. Your chance to 238 00:11:45,867 --> 00:11:47,587 Speaker 3: react now to what you heard there or what you 239 00:11:47,667 --> 00:11:50,027 Speaker 3: saw or heard last night. Oh, eight hundred and eighty 240 00:11:50,147 --> 00:11:52,907 Speaker 3: ten eighty. I think it's obvious we need to be 241 00:11:53,067 --> 00:11:57,467 Speaker 3: realistic in our expectations ahead of Test one of any 242 00:11:57,787 --> 00:12:01,747 Speaker 3: calendar year. Last weekend was a typical first Test of 243 00:12:01,787 --> 00:12:05,827 Speaker 3: the year performance but clunky, not quite the cohesion, a 244 00:12:05,867 --> 00:12:09,107 Speaker 3: few area to work on which we should expect. I 245 00:12:09,107 --> 00:12:11,187 Speaker 3: think we come to the first test of every year 246 00:12:11,187 --> 00:12:13,867 Speaker 3: and we forget that it takes a bit of time. 247 00:12:14,027 --> 00:12:17,547 Speaker 3: Last night was the result of a few things, but 248 00:12:17,707 --> 00:12:22,267 Speaker 3: certainly the result of an extra week together a couple 249 00:12:22,267 --> 00:12:26,187 Speaker 3: of standouts. Artie Savier need some new words for Ardie Savier, 250 00:12:27,107 --> 00:12:29,707 Speaker 3: find me some new words. I've run out. I've runout. 251 00:12:30,507 --> 00:12:34,747 Speaker 3: I think to Porvai showed growth in the number six jersey. 252 00:12:35,307 --> 00:12:38,787 Speaker 3: Maybe he is the man for that position. Maybe he 253 00:12:38,907 --> 00:12:42,027 Speaker 3: is the guy we've been looking for to fill the 254 00:12:42,067 --> 00:12:46,267 Speaker 3: six jersey ever since Jerome Knell. Really other blokes I've 255 00:12:46,267 --> 00:12:48,267 Speaker 3: had to go at at, Shannon Frazell started to look 256 00:12:48,347 --> 00:12:52,747 Speaker 3: quite good before he left our shores. I wonder whether 257 00:12:52,787 --> 00:12:56,987 Speaker 3: it is to porvais who's your man in that six jersey? 258 00:12:56,987 --> 00:12:59,827 Speaker 3: Now he can't play this coming week. It's been confirmed 259 00:12:59,827 --> 00:13:02,067 Speaker 3: this morning that he failed his HIA last night to 260 00:13:02,987 --> 00:13:04,267 Speaker 3: so they are going to have to make a change. 261 00:13:04,307 --> 00:13:07,707 Speaker 3: They may have made a change anyway, but I don't know. 262 00:13:07,747 --> 00:13:10,667 Speaker 3: I just wonder whether they'll give him another couple of 263 00:13:10,707 --> 00:13:13,547 Speaker 3: games against Argentina and maybe he is your man for 264 00:13:13,587 --> 00:13:17,507 Speaker 3: those big upcoming tests. And cam Roygard. Cam Roygard was 265 00:13:17,627 --> 00:13:20,307 Speaker 3: terrific last night. He is our best halfback by quite 266 00:13:20,307 --> 00:13:22,747 Speaker 3: some distance, one of the best nines in the world, 267 00:13:22,827 --> 00:13:26,547 Speaker 3: even at this early stage in his career. Now, one 268 00:13:26,587 --> 00:13:28,307 Speaker 3: of the narratives I've seen and it's coming through on 269 00:13:28,347 --> 00:13:30,827 Speaker 3: text already is that this wasn't a quality opposition, and 270 00:13:30,867 --> 00:13:33,027 Speaker 3: that's true, of course it's not. I think we were 271 00:13:33,067 --> 00:13:35,987 Speaker 3: perhaps given a false sense of this under strength French 272 00:13:36,027 --> 00:13:40,827 Speaker 3: side last weekend. Last night showed the reality the gap 273 00:13:41,027 --> 00:13:43,627 Speaker 3: in class. And yes, the step up in the Rugby 274 00:13:43,707 --> 00:13:47,507 Speaker 3: Championship and in particular in those big September Test matches 275 00:13:47,507 --> 00:13:50,507 Speaker 3: against South Africa will be significant. But the All Blacks 276 00:13:50,547 --> 00:13:52,507 Speaker 3: can only play what's in front of them and that's 277 00:13:52,507 --> 00:13:54,067 Speaker 3: what they did last night. They'll do it again next 278 00:13:54,067 --> 00:13:56,307 Speaker 3: week as well. I think we'll have a similar situation 279 00:13:56,427 --> 00:13:58,267 Speaker 3: next week. I think the French will probably just be 280 00:13:59,107 --> 00:14:00,907 Speaker 3: waiting to get on the plane and get out of here. 281 00:14:01,627 --> 00:14:03,387 Speaker 3: And just before we go to the lines, can we 282 00:14:03,467 --> 00:14:07,747 Speaker 3: please get rid of one of the silliest rules in rugby, 283 00:14:08,787 --> 00:14:12,827 Speaker 3: the so called deliberate knockdown that leads to yellow cards. 284 00:14:12,867 --> 00:14:16,027 Speaker 3: We had one last week in Dunedin for the French player. 285 00:14:16,107 --> 00:14:19,547 Speaker 3: We had another one last night. You tell me what 286 00:14:19,787 --> 00:14:23,947 Speaker 3: Boden Barrett is supposed to do in that situation and 287 00:14:23,987 --> 00:14:28,347 Speaker 3: whether he has done anything deliberate to stop that move 288 00:14:29,867 --> 00:14:34,307 Speaker 3: yellow carded for a deliberate knockdown. Here's Boden Barrett himself afterwards. 289 00:14:34,627 --> 00:14:36,547 Speaker 3: I didn't have time to think about knocking it down. 290 00:14:37,467 --> 00:14:39,867 Speaker 11: I was in a situation where I was potentially making 291 00:14:39,867 --> 00:14:45,547 Speaker 11: a tackle or going into a breakdown. It's an area 292 00:14:45,707 --> 00:14:49,467 Speaker 11: that off the game where I've been stung before. It's 293 00:14:49,507 --> 00:14:52,787 Speaker 11: often spoken about an area where there's mean in rugby 294 00:14:52,827 --> 00:14:55,587 Speaker 11: league it's a lot different to rugby union. So there's 295 00:14:55,627 --> 00:14:57,587 Speaker 11: certainly no intention to knock the ball down for me. 296 00:14:57,947 --> 00:15:01,987 Speaker 11: So often you're the last defender or second to last 297 00:15:01,987 --> 00:15:04,947 Speaker 11: defender and you just have to be so careful, like 298 00:15:05,027 --> 00:15:07,827 Speaker 11: you say, so, it's frustrating part of the game, to 299 00:15:07,827 --> 00:15:08,227 Speaker 11: be honest. 300 00:15:08,507 --> 00:15:11,987 Speaker 3: Look, we all understand the intent of the rule. We 301 00:15:12,027 --> 00:15:15,147 Speaker 3: all understand the intent of the rule. They deliberate knock, 302 00:15:15,507 --> 00:15:17,347 Speaker 3: knock on, deliberate knockdown, what do you want to call it. 303 00:15:17,747 --> 00:15:20,627 Speaker 3: We understand why it's there. We don't want guys up 304 00:15:20,667 --> 00:15:23,707 Speaker 3: on the line deliberately knocking the ball down when there's 305 00:15:23,707 --> 00:15:26,507 Speaker 3: an overlap and a tri scoring opportunity. But that's not 306 00:15:26,547 --> 00:15:30,027 Speaker 3: what this is. That is not what this is. Have 307 00:15:30,147 --> 00:15:35,467 Speaker 3: some common sense a penalty, sure, if you like a 308 00:15:35,547 --> 00:15:42,187 Speaker 3: yellow card, a yellow card for that, No way, Oh 309 00:15:42,187 --> 00:15:44,747 Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is our number nine two 310 00:15:44,907 --> 00:15:47,547 Speaker 3: nine to two on text. Let's get underway, Hey. 311 00:15:47,427 --> 00:15:51,627 Speaker 12: Mark, Hey finy. Yeah, there was actually an incident in 312 00:15:51,747 --> 00:15:55,147 Speaker 12: the second half. I think when Rico like caught the 313 00:15:55,147 --> 00:15:58,347 Speaker 12: ball out completely outstretched and sort of enter. He ended 314 00:15:58,387 --> 00:16:00,587 Speaker 12: up going to touch. But if he hadn't caught that, 315 00:16:00,707 --> 00:16:03,747 Speaker 12: he probably would have been off as well. But stupid. 316 00:16:04,387 --> 00:16:06,307 Speaker 12: I mean, there's there's a few. There's a few rule 317 00:16:06,427 --> 00:16:09,387 Speaker 12: I'd like to get rid of. I reckon getting rid 318 00:16:09,427 --> 00:16:11,787 Speaker 12: of the penalty for bringing down a rolling ball is 319 00:16:11,827 --> 00:16:14,707 Speaker 12: the most ridiculous role that's ever existed. I mean, the 320 00:16:14,747 --> 00:16:16,787 Speaker 12: whole idea of rugby is to get the player on 321 00:16:16,827 --> 00:16:18,787 Speaker 12: the ground. But there it's just my opinion. 322 00:16:19,227 --> 00:16:21,667 Speaker 3: No, and the knockdown yeah, before you move on the 323 00:16:21,707 --> 00:16:26,147 Speaker 3: knockdown one, we all get it. But it should only 324 00:16:26,187 --> 00:16:31,227 Speaker 3: be a yellow card if it is absolutely unequivocally prevented 325 00:16:31,227 --> 00:16:35,427 Speaker 3: a tribe from being scored and is absolutely deliberate. There's 326 00:16:35,427 --> 00:16:37,787 Speaker 3: no way the human brain of a normal person like 327 00:16:37,827 --> 00:16:40,867 Speaker 3: you and me can work as fast as is needed 328 00:16:40,867 --> 00:16:42,907 Speaker 3: to deliberately knock their ball down, let alone boat and 329 00:16:42,987 --> 00:16:43,347 Speaker 3: bear it. 330 00:16:44,467 --> 00:16:47,107 Speaker 12: Oh No, And I think that the yellow card to 331 00:16:47,187 --> 00:16:50,667 Speaker 12: me is getting used too frequently for things that just 332 00:16:50,707 --> 00:16:54,067 Speaker 12: tappen accidentally. To me, a yellow card should be something 333 00:16:54,147 --> 00:16:58,267 Speaker 12: completely careless or like, you know, deliberate. You know, like 334 00:16:58,307 --> 00:17:01,907 Speaker 12: players are getting sent off for these context accidental contacts 335 00:17:01,947 --> 00:17:04,667 Speaker 12: with their head and to me, some of them are 336 00:17:04,707 --> 00:17:06,907 Speaker 12: just like ludicrous. But I mean, I guess you sort 337 00:17:06,947 --> 00:17:08,987 Speaker 12: of don't know where it starts and ends with that role. 338 00:17:09,027 --> 00:17:12,107 Speaker 12: I guess that's why the TMO gets the big bucks 339 00:17:13,027 --> 00:17:14,667 Speaker 12: to take a lot of decisions about. 340 00:17:14,467 --> 00:17:18,867 Speaker 3: The yea yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I think we should 341 00:17:18,867 --> 00:17:20,747 Speaker 3: I think we should move on from the deliberate. 342 00:17:20,467 --> 00:17:24,147 Speaker 12: Not yeah yeah, no the game when you're at the 343 00:17:24,147 --> 00:17:26,547 Speaker 12: go at the game last night, so on the sideline 344 00:17:26,547 --> 00:17:31,467 Speaker 12: over there, the aerial game is still not accurate. It's 345 00:17:31,827 --> 00:17:33,747 Speaker 12: when you're at the game you can see how bad 346 00:17:33,787 --> 00:17:36,027 Speaker 12: it is. I mean, they're just not even giving themselves 347 00:17:36,067 --> 00:17:39,147 Speaker 12: a chance to catch that ball again. And to me, 348 00:17:39,267 --> 00:17:41,587 Speaker 12: you've got to come up with a plan, especially against 349 00:17:41,627 --> 00:17:43,747 Speaker 12: a team like South Africa, You've got to win that 350 00:17:43,787 --> 00:17:46,587 Speaker 12: fifty to fifty ball at least fifty percent of the 351 00:17:46,667 --> 00:17:49,267 Speaker 12: time because if you're not, I mean, that's French team 352 00:17:49,307 --> 00:17:51,187 Speaker 12: last night was not a good team. You know, I 353 00:17:51,267 --> 00:17:55,187 Speaker 12: watched the Lions who were actually pretty awesome dispatching the 354 00:17:55,867 --> 00:17:59,227 Speaker 12: Aussie n Z combo, and the Africans who were down 355 00:17:59,267 --> 00:18:02,827 Speaker 12: to fourteen men just still blitzed Italy. I mean it's 356 00:18:02,867 --> 00:18:05,627 Speaker 12: a huge step up from this French side last night, 357 00:18:05,947 --> 00:18:08,947 Speaker 12: and the curiousy that the All Blacks are showing under 358 00:18:08,987 --> 00:18:10,707 Speaker 12: the highball. I just don't think they're going to be 359 00:18:10,707 --> 00:18:12,547 Speaker 12: able to compete with these top teams. 360 00:18:12,787 --> 00:18:15,587 Speaker 3: Yeah, still a work on, Mark, Absolutely still a work on. 361 00:18:15,987 --> 00:18:17,747 Speaker 3: And you can you can talk about the wind last night, 362 00:18:17,787 --> 00:18:19,987 Speaker 3: which you know very well as do I in that 363 00:18:20,147 --> 00:18:23,467 Speaker 3: in that ground. But you're right there what you said. 364 00:18:23,907 --> 00:18:26,787 Speaker 3: If you're not winning a fifty to fifty you know, 365 00:18:27,427 --> 00:18:29,747 Speaker 3: scenario fifty percent of the time, then it's not a 366 00:18:29,787 --> 00:18:31,667 Speaker 3: fifty to fifty scenario. 367 00:18:31,227 --> 00:18:32,267 Speaker 8: Is it. 368 00:18:32,667 --> 00:18:35,067 Speaker 12: Yeah, just a quick question on there. If you if 369 00:18:35,107 --> 00:18:37,307 Speaker 12: you click the ball up like from a box kick 370 00:18:37,707 --> 00:18:39,907 Speaker 12: and you're trying to retrieve it, can you lift a 371 00:18:39,947 --> 00:18:42,627 Speaker 12: player like in a line now or like a kickoff. 372 00:18:42,667 --> 00:18:45,227 Speaker 12: You must be able to get two players under that 373 00:18:45,427 --> 00:18:47,187 Speaker 12: baller like lift a player, couldn't you. 374 00:18:47,787 --> 00:18:49,627 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you'd have to get there though, wouldn't you. 375 00:18:49,667 --> 00:18:52,187 Speaker 3: And I think it's the timers of the essence. Yeah, 376 00:18:52,307 --> 00:18:54,747 Speaker 3: I guess theoretically you could. Yes, you could get there. 377 00:18:54,747 --> 00:18:54,947 Speaker 8: I know. 378 00:18:54,987 --> 00:18:59,827 Speaker 3: They're also really cracking down though, on any interference by 379 00:19:00,187 --> 00:19:02,867 Speaker 3: runners who aren't Yeah, so actually the answer is probably no, 380 00:19:02,987 --> 00:19:05,227 Speaker 3: I know, a refere or get in touch. But they're 381 00:19:05,227 --> 00:19:07,707 Speaker 3: cracking down on anybody interfering with the guy who's trying 382 00:19:07,747 --> 00:19:09,307 Speaker 3: to catch the ball. And I think if you can't 383 00:19:09,307 --> 00:19:11,387 Speaker 3: need to try and lift lift a player, even if 384 00:19:11,387 --> 00:19:13,787 Speaker 3: you're not really interfering with him, Look, I just can't 385 00:19:13,827 --> 00:19:15,627 Speaker 3: see how you'd managed to do it. 386 00:19:15,707 --> 00:19:17,987 Speaker 12: Mark, Well, did you see that box move where they 387 00:19:17,987 --> 00:19:19,027 Speaker 12: didn't like a pass? 388 00:19:19,227 --> 00:19:21,907 Speaker 3: I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. And 389 00:19:21,947 --> 00:19:23,787 Speaker 3: did you see what they did from the very first 390 00:19:23,827 --> 00:19:25,227 Speaker 3: did you see what they did from the very first 391 00:19:25,267 --> 00:19:30,347 Speaker 3: kickoff this morning? The box they deliberately, they deliberately kicked 392 00:19:30,387 --> 00:19:34,747 Speaker 3: it less than ten meters so that the first move 393 00:19:34,947 --> 00:19:39,147 Speaker 3: of the whole game would be an Italian scrum. So 394 00:19:39,187 --> 00:19:42,707 Speaker 3: they manufactured from the first kickoff. They just think that 395 00:19:42,867 --> 00:19:45,227 Speaker 3: a couple of meters refere goes away, hasn't gone ten 396 00:19:45,307 --> 00:19:47,987 Speaker 3: that's a scrum to the opposition, which is exactly what 397 00:19:48,107 --> 00:19:51,627 Speaker 3: South Africa wanted in the first ten seconds they manufactured 398 00:19:51,987 --> 00:19:55,187 Speaker 3: and opposition scrum so they could assert their dominance. How's that? 399 00:19:56,427 --> 00:19:57,107 Speaker 7: I just think that. 400 00:19:57,467 --> 00:19:59,747 Speaker 12: I mean, unfortunately they are the real innovators of the 401 00:19:59,787 --> 00:20:03,547 Speaker 12: game in South Africa. Yeah, leading I saw they did 402 00:20:03,547 --> 00:20:06,467 Speaker 12: a fireworks display the other last week when they all 403 00:20:06,587 --> 00:20:08,147 Speaker 12: the bomb squad on the set firework. 404 00:20:10,467 --> 00:20:13,027 Speaker 3: I quite enjoyed. I'm sure you would have. I quite enjoyed. 405 00:20:13,027 --> 00:20:15,467 Speaker 3: POI a at halftime last night in the dark with 406 00:20:15,627 --> 00:20:19,307 Speaker 3: the with the fluorescent poise mark. Anyway, we digress. A 407 00:20:19,307 --> 00:20:21,227 Speaker 3: lot of people actually talking about the music at the games. 408 00:20:21,267 --> 00:20:23,467 Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about this today. I'm sorry. 409 00:20:23,547 --> 00:20:25,267 Speaker 3: I want to talk about the rugby. But a lot 410 00:20:25,307 --> 00:20:26,907 Speaker 3: of people say why do we play so much music 411 00:20:26,987 --> 00:20:30,747 Speaker 3: at the games? And the boomer and me tends to agree, 412 00:20:31,267 --> 00:20:33,587 Speaker 3: I'm not sure it's needed. It seems like every stoppage 413 00:20:33,627 --> 00:20:37,427 Speaker 3: and play results in music being played, and then the 414 00:20:37,467 --> 00:20:40,267 Speaker 3: game's going on and the music still going. Anyway, Like 415 00:20:40,307 --> 00:20:42,027 Speaker 3: I say, I don't really want to talk about it. 416 00:20:42,027 --> 00:20:45,467 Speaker 3: What have I just done talked about it? Get a greg, Hey, 417 00:20:45,507 --> 00:20:46,907 Speaker 3: you ain't money, good Greek? 418 00:20:48,707 --> 00:20:49,427 Speaker 2: No more music. 419 00:20:52,547 --> 00:20:55,587 Speaker 13: I just wanted to pointing out. 420 00:20:55,467 --> 00:20:58,227 Speaker 14: One thing that sort of struck me as quite odd 421 00:20:58,267 --> 00:21:03,787 Speaker 14: at the game, which was when Bodenbart was basically trimnant 422 00:21:03,787 --> 00:21:09,667 Speaker 14: to the ground quite a number four for France. All 423 00:21:09,707 --> 00:21:12,987 Speaker 14: that happened was a penalty. And now the way that 424 00:21:13,067 --> 00:21:17,067 Speaker 14: I looked at what happened was that he was driven 425 00:21:17,107 --> 00:21:21,827 Speaker 14: into the ground. But then the French guy drove his 426 00:21:21,827 --> 00:21:26,987 Speaker 14: head into vote about chips and he or knows because 427 00:21:27,227 --> 00:21:34,187 Speaker 14: he even drew blood. Now, in any other situation would 428 00:21:34,187 --> 00:21:37,027 Speaker 14: be onto it. And I found it really strange that 429 00:21:37,067 --> 00:21:38,587 Speaker 14: all that happened was a penalty. 430 00:21:39,267 --> 00:21:41,507 Speaker 3: There was a yellow card as well. Greek there was 431 00:21:41,507 --> 00:21:43,347 Speaker 3: a yellow card as well. I think it was It 432 00:21:43,467 --> 00:21:45,467 Speaker 3: was just a Jordi. I think it was Jordi Barrett. Yeah, 433 00:21:45,507 --> 00:21:47,987 Speaker 3: it was tiptacle. And we went all the way down 434 00:21:48,027 --> 00:21:49,707 Speaker 3: the other end, had a couple of phases. They in 435 00:21:49,747 --> 00:21:53,187 Speaker 3: fact France got a penalty and then they we stopped 436 00:21:53,187 --> 00:21:55,427 Speaker 3: and then we came back. And are you wondering why 437 00:21:55,467 --> 00:21:57,707 Speaker 3: that was only a yellow car and maybe not upgraded 438 00:21:57,707 --> 00:21:58,187 Speaker 3: to a red? 439 00:21:58,947 --> 00:22:01,667 Speaker 14: Well, yeah, I thought it should have been upgraded to 440 00:22:01,707 --> 00:22:04,867 Speaker 14: a red because in any other instance that I've seen 441 00:22:04,947 --> 00:22:08,347 Speaker 14: this year, it would have been a red upgraded to 442 00:22:08,387 --> 00:22:09,227 Speaker 14: a red card. 443 00:22:09,347 --> 00:22:14,507 Speaker 3: Did you Yeah, no, Willie Well he landed on his head, 444 00:22:15,467 --> 00:22:17,747 Speaker 3: so I would not have been at all surprised if 445 00:22:17,747 --> 00:22:19,707 Speaker 3: it was upgraded. It's one of those Greg. You probably 446 00:22:19,707 --> 00:22:23,107 Speaker 3: heard the heard the conversation between the officials. They said, yep, 447 00:22:23,187 --> 00:22:26,427 Speaker 3: yellow card, off field review, and then the off field 448 00:22:26,427 --> 00:22:28,547 Speaker 3: review came back as it's going to remain a yellow. 449 00:22:28,627 --> 00:22:30,987 Speaker 3: There was no explanation as to that, so you can 450 00:22:31,027 --> 00:22:35,027 Speaker 3: only assume there was mitigation whatever that means. Maybe like 451 00:22:35,107 --> 00:22:38,467 Speaker 3: they didn't absolutely drive him into the turf. They tried 452 00:22:38,467 --> 00:22:41,947 Speaker 3: to stop him, but no, his head and shoulder hit 453 00:22:42,027 --> 00:22:44,707 Speaker 3: the turf, so maybe there's that. But yeah, look, it 454 00:22:44,707 --> 00:22:46,387 Speaker 3: wouldn't have been at all surprising if it was if 455 00:22:46,387 --> 00:22:47,107 Speaker 3: it was upgraded. 456 00:22:48,707 --> 00:22:51,267 Speaker 14: Yeah, no, I just found it quite quite odd of 457 00:22:51,307 --> 00:22:53,827 Speaker 14: the way the game thankually going in a speed read 458 00:22:55,267 --> 00:22:56,187 Speaker 14: these days. 459 00:22:56,467 --> 00:22:58,347 Speaker 3: Yeah, good on your Greg, drive safe mate. Good to 460 00:22:58,387 --> 00:23:00,307 Speaker 3: hear from you. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 461 00:23:00,467 --> 00:23:02,587 Speaker 3: twelve twenty nine, Back with more of your calls after. 462 00:23:02,427 --> 00:23:07,587 Speaker 1: This The Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport Weekend. 463 00:23:07,147 --> 00:23:09,187 Speaker 2: Sport with Jason Vane and TJ. 464 00:23:09,427 --> 00:23:12,747 Speaker 1: Gunner, Homes New Zealand's most trusted home builder, News. 465 00:23:12,507 --> 00:23:15,747 Speaker 4: Talks It'd be and the Drive Tody Taylor has the 466 00:23:15,787 --> 00:23:18,387 Speaker 4: ball under his arm. They're on the ram Pack, the 467 00:23:18,507 --> 00:23:22,307 Speaker 4: black Pack surge for the light day River, the drive 468 00:23:22,427 --> 00:23:24,107 Speaker 4: tonight Tody Taylor. 469 00:23:24,307 --> 00:23:26,827 Speaker 3: Cody Taylor with another try, is stat this morning that 470 00:23:26,867 --> 00:23:30,187 Speaker 3: he's the first guy or the only person, sorry, since 471 00:23:30,227 --> 00:23:34,187 Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, in the ten years since twenty fifteen from 472 00:23:34,267 --> 00:23:36,187 Speaker 3: a Tier one nation to have scored a try in 473 00:23:36,227 --> 00:23:39,267 Speaker 3: every calendar year. He knows where the trial on is? 474 00:23:39,347 --> 00:23:41,627 Speaker 3: Was that ninety eight games for Cody Taylor now? So 475 00:23:41,667 --> 00:23:46,867 Speaker 3: his century is imminent? Hello Jason, Yeah, Hi Bonnie. 476 00:23:47,187 --> 00:23:47,987 Speaker 12: Hey. 477 00:23:48,027 --> 00:23:51,227 Speaker 15: For me, the big talking point for my viewing of 478 00:23:51,227 --> 00:23:56,227 Speaker 15: that match last night was no TMO. Wasn't it absolutely refreshing. 479 00:23:56,307 --> 00:23:59,827 Speaker 15: I don't think any try went upstairs for either France 480 00:23:59,987 --> 00:24:02,267 Speaker 15: or Hillback, so I if there was, it might have 481 00:24:02,307 --> 00:24:04,467 Speaker 15: been one. I just loved the way the rev just 482 00:24:04,827 --> 00:24:09,067 Speaker 15: made the call, saw what it was, didn't have to 483 00:24:09,107 --> 00:24:11,667 Speaker 15: wait twenty minutes for body to take his conversion or 484 00:24:11,707 --> 00:24:14,507 Speaker 15: you know, like they had last week, and then move on. 485 00:24:15,027 --> 00:24:18,307 Speaker 15: I not often I praise an English referee, but I 486 00:24:18,307 --> 00:24:20,147 Speaker 15: thought he had a He had a pretty good performance 487 00:24:20,227 --> 00:24:22,387 Speaker 15: last night. I didn't do well. I couldn't see anything 488 00:24:22,427 --> 00:24:22,867 Speaker 15: he did wrong. 489 00:24:24,067 --> 00:24:25,787 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the TMO was there for the two 490 00:24:25,867 --> 00:24:28,987 Speaker 3: yellow cards. You're right about the tries, Jase. I don't 491 00:24:29,267 --> 00:24:33,107 Speaker 3: recall any try being held up or relitigated by the 492 00:24:33,227 --> 00:24:38,147 Speaker 3: by the TMO. Yeah, yeah, I thought the referee was okay. 493 00:24:39,027 --> 00:24:40,667 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to recall. There was a couple of 494 00:24:40,707 --> 00:24:42,227 Speaker 3: there was a couple of incidents last night where I 495 00:24:42,267 --> 00:24:44,027 Speaker 3: kind of shrug my shoulders, but you know, you move 496 00:24:44,067 --> 00:24:48,067 Speaker 3: on the Yeah, look, yeah, yeah, I don't think we 497 00:24:48,067 --> 00:24:49,907 Speaker 3: we have to talk too much about the referee today, 498 00:24:49,947 --> 00:24:50,987 Speaker 3: which is probably a good thing. 499 00:24:51,947 --> 00:24:54,627 Speaker 15: Well, that's that's the red. Yeah, that's that's the refreshing thing. 500 00:24:54,707 --> 00:24:54,867 Speaker 5: You know. 501 00:24:55,627 --> 00:24:58,147 Speaker 15: You're right about Roy Garden on number nineties. He's our 502 00:24:58,947 --> 00:25:01,787 Speaker 15: just hoping nothing happens to him injury wise when we 503 00:25:01,867 --> 00:25:04,187 Speaker 15: get to play the real serious games against the box. 504 00:25:05,507 --> 00:25:08,787 Speaker 15: He's our Errands Muth's new era of Aaron Smith, no 505 00:25:08,987 --> 00:25:11,587 Speaker 15: question at all. I couldn't couldn't, couldn't agree with him 506 00:25:11,587 --> 00:25:13,267 Speaker 15: more that it's light years apart. 507 00:25:14,187 --> 00:25:17,827 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he's He's a cracker, isn't he He's a 508 00:25:17,827 --> 00:25:21,307 Speaker 3: cracker and he could play He could play a hundred 509 00:25:21,347 --> 00:25:24,507 Speaker 3: test for us, easy, thanks, Jace, Peter says Jason, I 510 00:25:24,507 --> 00:25:26,067 Speaker 3: don't think you picked up on what Greg was saying 511 00:25:26,067 --> 00:25:29,587 Speaker 3: about the Jordy Barrett situation. After he landed on his head, 512 00:25:29,907 --> 00:25:33,467 Speaker 3: A separate injury was caused when the tackler himself propelled 513 00:25:33,467 --> 00:25:36,387 Speaker 3: his own head into Jordie's face, causing the bleeding nose. 514 00:25:36,427 --> 00:25:39,067 Speaker 3: That type of head to head contact, even if not intended, 515 00:25:39,347 --> 00:25:41,667 Speaker 3: has led to red cards in the past. Everyone's focused 516 00:25:41,707 --> 00:25:44,907 Speaker 3: on the way Jordie landed and the tackle, but no 517 00:25:44,987 --> 00:25:47,667 Speaker 3: one is talking about the second incident a split second 518 00:25:47,827 --> 00:25:50,547 Speaker 3: after he lands, where there is head to head contact. 519 00:25:50,547 --> 00:25:56,307 Speaker 3: Thank you, Peter appreciate it, and Chris says it's ridiculous 520 00:25:57,907 --> 00:26:02,347 Speaker 3: giving the yellow card for the knockdown. Yeah. I don't 521 00:26:02,347 --> 00:26:05,587 Speaker 3: want to focus on officiating, but it just that rule 522 00:26:05,667 --> 00:26:11,067 Speaker 3: has to go or be changed. Yellow cards, you know. 523 00:26:11,227 --> 00:26:12,467 Speaker 3: So you look at it. Last night there were two 524 00:26:12,507 --> 00:26:14,467 Speaker 3: yellow cards handed out. One was for the tip tackle 525 00:26:14,507 --> 00:26:17,627 Speaker 3: on Jordi, which once we had the extra evidence and 526 00:26:17,627 --> 00:26:20,507 Speaker 3: that Peter's just sent through and also just the act 527 00:26:20,547 --> 00:26:23,107 Speaker 3: itself was a yellow card, could have been a red. 528 00:26:23,427 --> 00:26:25,787 Speaker 3: The other yellow card was for Boden Barrett's hand being 529 00:26:25,787 --> 00:26:29,387 Speaker 3: in the wrong place. That's it, really, that's it. He 530 00:26:29,467 --> 00:26:33,627 Speaker 3: hasn't done anything deliberately. I defy a human being to 531 00:26:33,627 --> 00:26:37,907 Speaker 3: be able to go through that thought process that quickly 532 00:26:38,667 --> 00:26:40,707 Speaker 3: to think I'm going to put my hand out and 533 00:26:40,747 --> 00:26:45,587 Speaker 3: deliberately knock this down. I've watched it a dozen times today. 534 00:26:46,147 --> 00:26:50,467 Speaker 3: You simply can't tell me there's any deliberate thought in 535 00:26:50,507 --> 00:26:53,147 Speaker 3: the mind of Boden Barrett. 536 00:26:54,387 --> 00:26:59,307 Speaker 16: Hello, Phil, good a pointy How are you good? 537 00:26:59,347 --> 00:26:59,947 Speaker 3: Thank you, Phil? 538 00:27:00,987 --> 00:27:03,907 Speaker 16: Excellent. I caught an eye of beyond Sideline last night 539 00:27:03,947 --> 00:27:05,907 Speaker 16: while I was watching the games. Then now I thought, 540 00:27:05,667 --> 00:27:07,827 Speaker 16: there he is the big man with the headphones on, 541 00:27:08,027 --> 00:27:09,187 Speaker 16: looking pretty happy. 542 00:27:09,427 --> 00:27:12,707 Speaker 3: Not moving, not moving, not moving very far or very fast. 543 00:27:13,107 --> 00:27:16,787 Speaker 16: PHILM No, No, you were focused on the game on 544 00:27:16,827 --> 00:27:22,987 Speaker 16: the spot where you were watching it. But no, that's 545 00:27:23,147 --> 00:27:25,267 Speaker 16: that was all good. You're doing your job. You're doing 546 00:27:25,307 --> 00:27:26,947 Speaker 16: your job. You've got to keep the eyes on the game. 547 00:27:28,907 --> 00:27:29,147 Speaker 2: Yeah. 548 00:27:29,347 --> 00:27:32,307 Speaker 16: Much much better performance last night, A step up all right. 549 00:27:32,387 --> 00:27:34,667 Speaker 16: From that first half was brilliant. I don't know the 550 00:27:34,667 --> 00:27:37,867 Speaker 16: second half whether they just slackened off of it or 551 00:27:37,907 --> 00:27:41,787 Speaker 16: the French just improved a bit more. But that first Troy, 552 00:27:41,787 --> 00:27:44,747 Speaker 16: what I call the Houdini act, that caught everybody by surprise. 553 00:27:44,747 --> 00:27:46,947 Speaker 16: We're all going looking the other way. Next minute he's 554 00:27:46,947 --> 00:27:49,267 Speaker 16: off down the blind side and scored a Troy Or 555 00:27:49,347 --> 00:27:55,107 Speaker 16: cam Ruger. That was Ansler's genius. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, 556 00:27:55,147 --> 00:27:58,387 Speaker 16: I think too the the the boy year, is it 557 00:27:58,507 --> 00:28:01,707 Speaker 16: the number six guy? I'm not good with saying the name. 558 00:28:01,987 --> 00:28:04,227 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, yep. 559 00:28:05,147 --> 00:28:07,747 Speaker 16: Yeah, I think he's I think that's his position. I 560 00:28:07,827 --> 00:28:09,947 Speaker 16: like him. The more I see him in that number 561 00:28:09,947 --> 00:28:13,347 Speaker 16: six position, I think that's where he should be. He's 562 00:28:13,387 --> 00:28:16,227 Speaker 16: big and strong, you know, and the line out he's good. 563 00:28:16,267 --> 00:28:18,107 Speaker 16: And then like you say, in the drive there where 564 00:28:18,147 --> 00:28:21,347 Speaker 16: he got that Troy. I definitely think Rais is making 565 00:28:21,347 --> 00:28:25,227 Speaker 16: the right decision with that one. And Artie, yeah, you know, 566 00:28:25,427 --> 00:28:28,267 Speaker 16: just again, like you say, you just run out of words, 567 00:28:28,307 --> 00:28:32,907 Speaker 16: don't you. He's just again it was superb, unreal performance. 568 00:28:33,027 --> 00:28:35,507 Speaker 16: Just yeah, it's just what can you say about artists? 569 00:28:35,507 --> 00:28:40,987 Speaker 16: So via just excellent. Yeah, I'm gonna do and I'm 570 00:28:40,987 --> 00:28:42,947 Speaker 16: just trying to think if I miss anybody. Oh that's 571 00:28:42,947 --> 00:28:49,747 Speaker 16: what I thought. The middleman Proctor, Billy Proctor. 572 00:28:49,827 --> 00:28:50,667 Speaker 10: I thought he had. 573 00:28:51,067 --> 00:28:53,507 Speaker 16: I liked his game, but not so much, you know, 574 00:28:53,507 --> 00:28:55,787 Speaker 16: because he's working into the center and people were still 575 00:28:55,827 --> 00:28:58,547 Speaker 16: wondering if he's the all Black, you know, Centa like 576 00:28:58,587 --> 00:29:02,467 Speaker 16: no doubt in the Super Rugby was fantastic. But last 577 00:29:02,507 --> 00:29:04,187 Speaker 16: night I thought it was quite good because it wasn't 578 00:29:04,227 --> 00:29:06,507 Speaker 16: so much of attacking last night. But I thought his 579 00:29:06,587 --> 00:29:09,467 Speaker 16: defense last night was fantastic for the center and also 580 00:29:09,627 --> 00:29:11,947 Speaker 16: was getting in there and getting and getting the makestead 581 00:29:11,947 --> 00:29:14,547 Speaker 16: as well, we know, and charging forward too and making 582 00:29:14,587 --> 00:29:19,787 Speaker 16: the tackles and that. So I was impressed with that 583 00:29:19,947 --> 00:29:21,587 Speaker 16: last night, with that part of this game. I don't 584 00:29:21,627 --> 00:29:23,147 Speaker 16: know if people picked up on that because you're sort 585 00:29:23,147 --> 00:29:24,787 Speaker 16: of looking to see how he's going to combine and 586 00:29:24,827 --> 00:29:27,707 Speaker 16: attack rather rather than sort of thinking about the defense 587 00:29:27,747 --> 00:29:29,787 Speaker 16: and getting in there and grabbing the ball as well, 588 00:29:29,827 --> 00:29:32,307 Speaker 16: and stopped a couple of tries and got over a couple. 589 00:29:33,667 --> 00:29:36,707 Speaker 16: Now I'm with you at the yellow card rule with 590 00:29:36,827 --> 00:29:39,747 Speaker 16: knocking down the bull. I think that's ridiculous and that 591 00:29:39,827 --> 00:29:43,027 Speaker 16: should go. And a good point too. I thought about 592 00:29:43,027 --> 00:29:44,667 Speaker 16: the first fell I think caught about the role in 593 00:29:44,747 --> 00:29:46,947 Speaker 16: Moon bringing it down. I don't think you should be 594 00:29:46,947 --> 00:29:49,467 Speaker 16: penalised for that either. I mean, yeah, trying to stop 595 00:29:49,467 --> 00:29:51,507 Speaker 16: the Troy. After all, it's a game trying to stop 596 00:29:51,547 --> 00:29:54,027 Speaker 16: tries as well as scored you know, so some I 597 00:29:54,067 --> 00:29:56,827 Speaker 16: think some of the rules are a bit over the top, 598 00:29:56,907 --> 00:30:01,827 Speaker 16: but I was also thinking the TMO, the ref. One 599 00:30:01,827 --> 00:30:03,707 Speaker 16: good thing I thought about the ref last night was 600 00:30:03,747 --> 00:30:06,027 Speaker 16: when the TMO called back that play and then the 601 00:30:06,067 --> 00:30:08,787 Speaker 16: ref over rids the decisions. They know we're going back, 602 00:30:08,827 --> 00:30:11,627 Speaker 16: it's gone back too far. We've played on and we're 603 00:30:11,667 --> 00:30:13,667 Speaker 16: going to the line out like, well, that's great because 604 00:30:13,667 --> 00:30:14,987 Speaker 16: that's the sort of thing you want to see as 605 00:30:15,027 --> 00:30:17,587 Speaker 16: a referee over all with TMO if they go back 606 00:30:18,467 --> 00:30:20,147 Speaker 16: quite a bit, you know, I don't know if you 607 00:30:20,187 --> 00:30:20,707 Speaker 16: remember that. 608 00:30:20,707 --> 00:30:25,707 Speaker 3: But yeah, Also. 609 00:30:24,347 --> 00:30:26,187 Speaker 16: So I thought that was great to see from the ref, 610 00:30:27,027 --> 00:30:29,627 Speaker 16: and I've got a bit of ad, a bit of 611 00:30:29,627 --> 00:30:32,107 Speaker 16: a Sooyd twist on it, and I'm thinking that I 612 00:30:32,147 --> 00:30:34,547 Speaker 16: don't know if you'll agree with this, but what you'll 613 00:30:34,547 --> 00:30:37,387 Speaker 16: think of this, but I'm kind of thinking, Okay, we 614 00:30:37,427 --> 00:30:40,667 Speaker 16: whipped them last night, the French the second half, I 615 00:30:40,707 --> 00:30:43,787 Speaker 16: think they scored about the same was but we dove 616 00:30:43,867 --> 00:30:47,467 Speaker 16: all score. We've done them, and if it happens again 617 00:30:47,507 --> 00:30:53,067 Speaker 16: in Hamilton, they go back with a comprehensive beat. Comprehensive 618 00:30:53,107 --> 00:30:55,387 Speaker 16: beat the couptor. I'm wondering if the French would be 619 00:30:55,427 --> 00:30:57,747 Speaker 16: too upset about that, or they would worry about that 620 00:30:57,787 --> 00:31:00,387 Speaker 16: too much because obviously they want to win. Everybody wants 621 00:31:00,387 --> 00:31:03,427 Speaker 16: to win. You want to be a winner. But I'm thinking, 622 00:31:03,507 --> 00:31:06,307 Speaker 16: because I think that the French coach is looking to 623 00:31:06,427 --> 00:31:09,027 Speaker 16: the World Cup, I don't think they'll be too upset 624 00:31:09,067 --> 00:31:13,227 Speaker 16: about going back and getting well beaten, because I think 625 00:31:13,267 --> 00:31:15,387 Speaker 16: there'll be more He'll be thinking more. Well, I've done 626 00:31:15,427 --> 00:31:17,747 Speaker 16: the job of seeing what these players can do. I've 627 00:31:17,747 --> 00:31:20,667 Speaker 16: given them a go. Now I can go back mix 628 00:31:20,707 --> 00:31:23,107 Speaker 16: it up again with me a players and start looking 629 00:31:23,147 --> 00:31:26,067 Speaker 16: at the fowlers that did put in individual good performances 630 00:31:26,107 --> 00:31:27,947 Speaker 16: over those three games, and who I'm going to start 631 00:31:27,987 --> 00:31:29,987 Speaker 16: to add into a World Cup side. 632 00:31:30,027 --> 00:31:32,467 Speaker 3: So mae, yeah, look Phil, I've got to move mate. 633 00:31:32,467 --> 00:31:34,787 Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't think he'll be I don't think 634 00:31:34,787 --> 00:31:37,187 Speaker 3: they'll be distraught about it. I don't think they bee 635 00:31:37,187 --> 00:31:41,787 Speaker 3: engualtier will We'll obviously say, won't care. Look, he knows 636 00:31:41,827 --> 00:31:43,907 Speaker 3: it's not his first choice team. You're right, he's probably 637 00:31:43,907 --> 00:31:46,627 Speaker 3: found out a few things about a few players on 638 00:31:46,667 --> 00:31:50,027 Speaker 3: this tour, you know. Like I said, I think last 639 00:31:50,027 --> 00:31:52,707 Speaker 3: week we got a false impression of of just how 640 00:31:52,747 --> 00:31:56,827 Speaker 3: good France were largely, I think because the All Blacks 641 00:31:56,907 --> 00:32:00,827 Speaker 3: just you know, had had a typical rusty first up 642 00:32:00,867 --> 00:32:04,667 Speaker 3: of the air performance and France you know, yes, they 643 00:32:04,667 --> 00:32:07,027 Speaker 3: were good, but I think last night was a more 644 00:32:07,107 --> 00:32:11,587 Speaker 3: accurate reflection of the difference between the two sides, and 645 00:32:12,267 --> 00:32:14,147 Speaker 3: I fully expect that it'll be the same next week. 646 00:32:14,187 --> 00:32:15,867 Speaker 3: I think France will just be looking forward to getting 647 00:32:15,867 --> 00:32:18,467 Speaker 3: on the plane. Thanks for your call, Phil, it's eighteen 648 00:32:18,467 --> 00:32:20,187 Speaker 3: away from one. A couple of texts to get through 649 00:32:20,227 --> 00:32:21,587 Speaker 3: and we'll get a break away. There's a spear line 650 00:32:21,587 --> 00:32:24,387 Speaker 3: if you want to jump on, Jason. Fabian Holland has 651 00:32:24,387 --> 00:32:27,227 Speaker 3: slotted into this All Blacks team so well. He looks 652 00:32:27,267 --> 00:32:29,187 Speaker 3: set to stay there for many years. He does all 653 00:32:29,187 --> 00:32:31,867 Speaker 3: his core functions so well and goes for the whole 654 00:32:31,907 --> 00:32:34,307 Speaker 3: eighty minutes without tiring. Yeah, he had another good game 655 00:32:34,347 --> 00:32:38,307 Speaker 3: last night, didn't he. Fabian Holland, He's He's done everything 656 00:32:38,747 --> 00:32:40,987 Speaker 3: expected of him in his first two test matches. You 657 00:32:40,987 --> 00:32:43,947 Speaker 3: couldn't really ask for anything more from Fabian Holland. I 658 00:32:43,987 --> 00:32:48,547 Speaker 3: wouldn't imagine be very interesting to see how they manage 659 00:32:48,587 --> 00:32:52,427 Speaker 3: the locks moving forward, particularly if two por VEII comes 660 00:32:52,427 --> 00:32:55,227 Speaker 3: back into the second row, because he was largely acknowledged 661 00:32:55,267 --> 00:32:58,147 Speaker 3: as being our best lock last year. Scott Barrett's the captain, 662 00:32:58,427 --> 00:33:02,507 Speaker 3: so he has to play. Patrick Twey Pilot too, is 663 00:33:02,547 --> 00:33:05,107 Speaker 3: a very good lock, so he's in there as well. 664 00:33:05,387 --> 00:33:07,907 Speaker 3: He had a good game last night too, Patrick Tweek 665 00:33:07,947 --> 00:33:10,707 Speaker 3: a lot too. Then you got Sam Dowry coming back, 666 00:33:10,787 --> 00:33:15,467 Speaker 3: Josh Lord as well others who are going to be 667 00:33:15,507 --> 00:33:17,827 Speaker 3: putting their hands up. So maybe our locking stocks are 668 00:33:17,827 --> 00:33:21,227 Speaker 3: starting to look a bit healthier. Babe in Holland leading 669 00:33:21,267 --> 00:33:23,187 Speaker 3: the way seventeen to one back in a moment on 670 00:33:23,227 --> 00:33:23,987 Speaker 3: News Talk s head. 671 00:33:23,867 --> 00:33:29,347 Speaker 1: Be the big issues on and after Fields Call eight 672 00:33:29,387 --> 00:33:32,427 Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty Weekends Forward with Jason. 673 00:33:32,107 --> 00:33:33,187 Speaker 2: Paine and GJ. 674 00:33:33,307 --> 00:33:37,067 Speaker 1: Gunnerhomes New Zealand's first trusted home Bilder News Talks. 675 00:33:36,787 --> 00:33:39,707 Speaker 3: Hebb fourteen to one back to the lines in just 676 00:33:39,787 --> 00:33:42,467 Speaker 3: a moment Billy Proctor last night Phil mentioned him before. 677 00:33:42,507 --> 00:33:44,707 Speaker 3: I thought he had a good game last night. I 678 00:33:44,827 --> 00:33:47,707 Speaker 3: thought he was a big night for Billy Proctor on 679 00:33:47,787 --> 00:33:51,267 Speaker 3: his home patch, with an opportunity to play back to 680 00:33:51,307 --> 00:33:55,187 Speaker 3: back test matches in the thirteen Jumper and stake a claim. 681 00:33:55,467 --> 00:33:56,827 Speaker 3: So how did he feel afterwards? 682 00:33:56,907 --> 00:33:57,467 Speaker 2: Yeah? I loved it. 683 00:33:58,427 --> 00:34:00,027 Speaker 5: You know, it's last to put a performance out there 684 00:34:00,107 --> 00:34:03,387 Speaker 5: that you know, it's probably a little bit red of 685 00:34:03,427 --> 00:34:07,467 Speaker 5: it last week. And I love being home beckoned and 686 00:34:08,107 --> 00:34:10,907 Speaker 5: respect well as I can called respect sky Stadium now 687 00:34:12,427 --> 00:34:14,867 Speaker 5: you know it's familiar to me. And you know if 688 00:34:14,907 --> 00:34:15,627 Speaker 5: they started playing. 689 00:34:15,627 --> 00:34:18,067 Speaker 3: And was there anything in particular that you were focusing 690 00:34:18,107 --> 00:34:20,467 Speaker 3: on this week, the city you were entirely happy with 691 00:34:20,547 --> 00:34:22,467 Speaker 3: last week, anything in particularly you worked on this week? 692 00:34:22,867 --> 00:34:25,227 Speaker 5: Well, I guess there's a group we we focused on, 693 00:34:25,587 --> 00:34:30,267 Speaker 5: you know, defensively putting the pressure on them, you know, 694 00:34:30,307 --> 00:34:32,987 Speaker 5: getting off the line and probably applying pressure to them 695 00:34:32,987 --> 00:34:35,667 Speaker 5: instead of the other way around where they're running at us, 696 00:34:35,667 --> 00:34:38,547 Speaker 5: which you know, I think benefit of us today. And 697 00:34:38,627 --> 00:34:40,147 Speaker 5: you know that's what I'm what I have been used 698 00:34:40,147 --> 00:34:43,707 Speaker 5: to do on the Hurricanes, so you know it's you know, 699 00:34:43,707 --> 00:34:46,467 Speaker 5: it's a natural feel for me to do that, and yeah, 700 00:34:46,787 --> 00:34:47,747 Speaker 5: we've felt there doing that. 701 00:34:47,947 --> 00:34:49,787 Speaker 3: You had to be you had to be a bit patient, 702 00:34:49,947 --> 00:34:51,707 Speaker 3: you know, to get this stooding jersey on your back. 703 00:34:51,707 --> 00:34:54,707 Speaker 3: You've had a couple of weeks in succession now I 704 00:34:54,787 --> 00:34:56,667 Speaker 3: have been does this feel like for you or did 705 00:34:56,667 --> 00:34:58,627 Speaker 3: it feel like before this game? In terms have an 706 00:34:58,627 --> 00:35:01,347 Speaker 3: opportunity to really start your praying for us. 707 00:35:02,147 --> 00:35:04,987 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think every every time in this environment, if 708 00:35:04,987 --> 00:35:09,227 Speaker 5: you get a start, it's a opportunity. And you know, 709 00:35:09,307 --> 00:35:12,787 Speaker 5: with the competition in the midfield, you know, it's one 710 00:35:12,787 --> 00:35:15,587 Speaker 5: that they have to take. And you know, you know, 711 00:35:15,627 --> 00:35:18,667 Speaker 5: you have a responsibility for yourself in for the rest 712 00:35:18,707 --> 00:35:20,747 Speaker 5: of the team, and especially the midfielder is that they 713 00:35:20,747 --> 00:35:24,587 Speaker 5: don't get to play. You're never responsibility there, you. 714 00:35:24,547 --> 00:35:25,627 Speaker 10: Know, put out a performance. 715 00:35:27,027 --> 00:35:29,067 Speaker 5: So yeah, I just try and do my best, you know, 716 00:35:29,187 --> 00:35:33,627 Speaker 5: try try find the balance between putting pressure and you know, 717 00:35:33,747 --> 00:35:36,027 Speaker 5: not too much pressure that you know that the moment 718 00:35:36,027 --> 00:35:39,427 Speaker 5: fields are too big, but yeah, find finding the balance 719 00:35:39,467 --> 00:35:42,507 Speaker 5: between a little bit of pressure in edge, you know, 720 00:35:42,507 --> 00:35:45,027 Speaker 5: and belief in yourself. So yeah, try and find the 721 00:35:45,027 --> 00:35:47,267 Speaker 5: happy median and just try and put out the best 722 00:35:47,267 --> 00:35:47,867 Speaker 5: performance I can. 723 00:35:47,987 --> 00:35:50,227 Speaker 3: That's the voice of Bully Propped after the game last night, 724 00:35:50,227 --> 00:35:51,747 Speaker 3: I thought he had a good game. Interesting to see 725 00:35:51,827 --> 00:35:54,107 Speaker 3: him and to Mathy Taa tabanaway in midfield at the end. 726 00:35:54,147 --> 00:35:58,627 Speaker 3: Wasn't it interesting combination that could be? Hello, Jeff Well 727 00:35:59,107 --> 00:35:59,867 Speaker 3: got an afternoon. 728 00:36:00,387 --> 00:36:02,907 Speaker 17: Yeah, I just watch the game. First thing, I'd like 729 00:36:02,987 --> 00:36:07,667 Speaker 17: to say congratulations to the all blacked certainly outsmart than 730 00:36:07,707 --> 00:36:13,787 Speaker 17: the French last night, which was great that when Baden 731 00:36:14,147 --> 00:36:17,547 Speaker 17: K got the yellow card, I was overly amazed. I 732 00:36:17,707 --> 00:36:20,827 Speaker 17: really couldn't not that on a I'm not a referee 733 00:36:20,867 --> 00:36:23,427 Speaker 17: and I don't know all the rules, but I was 734 00:36:23,467 --> 00:36:27,347 Speaker 17: actually a bit horrified when he got the yellow card 735 00:36:27,387 --> 00:36:30,427 Speaker 17: because I don't think he did anything deliver it. I 736 00:36:30,427 --> 00:36:33,667 Speaker 17: think it was just circumstances. And there are a lot 737 00:36:33,707 --> 00:36:37,907 Speaker 17: of circumstances in rugby, because I have played rugby for 738 00:36:38,027 --> 00:36:42,107 Speaker 17: quite a few years and we all know that they 739 00:36:42,147 --> 00:36:44,787 Speaker 17: you all blacked out, went down the blind side. I 740 00:36:44,827 --> 00:36:48,187 Speaker 17: thought it was unbelievable because all the French were out 741 00:36:48,227 --> 00:36:51,547 Speaker 17: the other side, and I don't think they were expecting that. 742 00:36:52,267 --> 00:36:54,987 Speaker 3: I loved it. I loved it. It's like the old 743 00:36:55,027 --> 00:36:57,267 Speaker 3: remember the old days when when they used to have 744 00:36:57,267 --> 00:36:59,707 Speaker 3: a set move and all the players used to pretend 745 00:36:59,747 --> 00:37:01,707 Speaker 3: they had the ball up there jumper and they took 746 00:37:01,747 --> 00:37:04,467 Speaker 3: off in different different directions. That's what it was like 747 00:37:04,587 --> 00:37:06,587 Speaker 3: last night. The French didn't know where it was. The 748 00:37:06,707 --> 00:37:09,467 Speaker 3: little slight of hands to Cameroy Garden just to clear 749 00:37:09,547 --> 00:37:11,547 Speaker 3: run down the down the tram tracks for the for 750 00:37:11,627 --> 00:37:14,347 Speaker 3: the triline. I thought it was brilliantly executed. 751 00:37:15,027 --> 00:37:20,027 Speaker 17: Woh, absolutely fantastic. The all breaks just outsmarted the French 752 00:37:21,307 --> 00:37:23,987 Speaker 17: in many ways that the only dirty player I saw 753 00:37:24,307 --> 00:37:26,347 Speaker 17: was who was the old break that was on the 754 00:37:26,387 --> 00:37:31,707 Speaker 17: ground getting his face ground And one of the old 755 00:37:31,707 --> 00:37:35,227 Speaker 17: breaks were in a tackle and then the French guy 756 00:37:35,387 --> 00:37:39,467 Speaker 17: came in and his arm or whatever it was was 757 00:37:39,547 --> 00:37:44,627 Speaker 17: hitting him in the face and the referee awarded a penalty. 758 00:37:45,467 --> 00:37:48,307 Speaker 17: That's the guy who should have got the yellow card 759 00:37:48,547 --> 00:37:49,547 Speaker 17: because it was deliver. 760 00:37:50,187 --> 00:37:51,347 Speaker 12: I believe it was deliver. 761 00:37:51,827 --> 00:37:53,787 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for your court if I don't recall that 762 00:37:53,827 --> 00:37:55,747 Speaker 3: one unless you're talking about the Jordy barret On. But 763 00:37:55,787 --> 00:37:57,787 Speaker 3: that wasn't so much a rubbing of the face into 764 00:37:57,827 --> 00:38:00,587 Speaker 3: the turf as a as a follow through after the 765 00:38:00,587 --> 00:38:02,307 Speaker 3: tip tackle. But yeah, I think a bit of stuff 766 00:38:02,347 --> 00:38:03,907 Speaker 3: goes on on the ground, doesn't it that, You know, 767 00:38:03,947 --> 00:38:06,067 Speaker 3: you try and get a bit of advantage, you put 768 00:38:06,067 --> 00:38:07,747 Speaker 3: your hand in someone's face and sort of push it 769 00:38:07,787 --> 00:38:10,987 Speaker 3: towards the ground. I'm not sure there's anything too serious 770 00:38:11,027 --> 00:38:14,107 Speaker 3: in that. I think I'd rather see the yellow cards 771 00:38:14,107 --> 00:38:16,987 Speaker 3: given out for things like Bowden Barretts last night not 772 00:38:17,107 --> 00:38:19,907 Speaker 3: given out anyway, We digress nine and a half away 773 00:38:19,907 --> 00:38:22,067 Speaker 3: from one. Still time to talk from Rugby. Thomas Waldrom 774 00:38:22,267 --> 00:38:24,187 Speaker 3: going to join us after one o'clock, the former England 775 00:38:24,227 --> 00:38:26,787 Speaker 3: international with his thoughts yours are welcome to on oh 776 00:38:26,827 --> 00:38:28,547 Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. 777 00:38:28,787 --> 00:38:32,347 Speaker 1: Right, breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic failed 778 00:38:34,027 --> 00:38:37,627 Speaker 1: weekend sport with Jason Pine News Talk z Envy. 779 00:38:38,227 --> 00:38:40,427 Speaker 3: Six minutes away from one, Good Jim, what's on your mind? 780 00:38:41,747 --> 00:38:41,987 Speaker 5: Ah? 781 00:38:42,067 --> 00:38:42,307 Speaker 9: Yeah? 782 00:38:42,507 --> 00:38:45,307 Speaker 18: Watching the game last night, I've been honest, I felt 783 00:38:45,347 --> 00:38:47,747 Speaker 18: like I was about to do a Jared Haynes where 784 00:38:47,787 --> 00:38:51,427 Speaker 18: he said it's been a long time and growing up 785 00:38:51,467 --> 00:38:54,547 Speaker 18: watching the Orbacks, we kind of fitted away from the 786 00:38:54,667 --> 00:38:56,987 Speaker 18: dumpers that they had at one point, But last night 787 00:38:57,027 --> 00:38:59,987 Speaker 18: it took me back to it like I was eighteenth again, 788 00:39:00,027 --> 00:39:02,347 Speaker 18: seeing them the way that they were performing last night, 789 00:39:02,387 --> 00:39:04,547 Speaker 18: the way that they were just dominating the pitch from 790 00:39:04,947 --> 00:39:09,667 Speaker 18: before eighty minutes, even that ridiculous execution of that play 791 00:39:10,307 --> 00:39:12,827 Speaker 18: that they did with the mall and the little slider 792 00:39:12,867 --> 00:39:16,347 Speaker 18: hand going on that that really that really got me 793 00:39:16,627 --> 00:39:19,587 Speaker 18: off the seat, Sir. I didn't have any negatives on that. 794 00:39:19,747 --> 00:39:21,867 Speaker 18: I just thought it was really good to see the 795 00:39:21,907 --> 00:39:24,467 Speaker 18: All Blacks really come back to the Fimbat were used. 796 00:39:24,307 --> 00:39:27,027 Speaker 3: To might if anything can make us feel eighteen again, 797 00:39:27,107 --> 00:39:31,067 Speaker 3: Jim's a good thing, surely. I love the fact that 798 00:39:31,067 --> 00:39:33,387 Speaker 3: that it peeled it back the years for you, mate. 799 00:39:34,227 --> 00:39:36,267 Speaker 18: Oh yeah, of course I was like, Man, I feel 800 00:39:36,307 --> 00:39:41,667 Speaker 18: I feel tall younger. Oh my goodness, just to teach 801 00:39:42,107 --> 00:39:45,267 Speaker 18: what's going on, because yeah, I kind of stopped watching 802 00:39:45,307 --> 00:39:48,827 Speaker 18: the All Black stuff they started them not really being 803 00:39:48,827 --> 00:39:50,867 Speaker 18: at that standard. Of course, the world is catching up, 804 00:39:51,347 --> 00:39:53,107 Speaker 18: but you know, just to see them come back and 805 00:39:53,147 --> 00:39:56,667 Speaker 18: reclaim that dominance of even though yes, people can argue 806 00:39:57,027 --> 00:39:59,427 Speaker 18: South Africa whatever it is another of money, but in 807 00:39:59,467 --> 00:40:01,987 Speaker 18: my heart it's the All Blacks. I mean, we wouldn't 808 00:40:02,027 --> 00:40:04,147 Speaker 18: have been up at the standard that the world is 809 00:40:04,347 --> 00:40:07,507 Speaker 18: if it wasn't for the work and the creativity of 810 00:40:09,107 --> 00:40:11,747 Speaker 18: news and a rugby. So I'm a huge patriot for 811 00:40:12,107 --> 00:40:15,027 Speaker 18: that in the terms of the sport. So I really 812 00:40:15,067 --> 00:40:16,267 Speaker 18: just did take me back. 813 00:40:16,627 --> 00:40:18,787 Speaker 3: Good man, Jim. I'm pleased, mate, I'm pleased. May there 814 00:40:18,787 --> 00:40:21,427 Speaker 3: be many more of it, mate, many more occasions where 815 00:40:21,467 --> 00:40:23,547 Speaker 3: you feel younger again. Look, if a rugby team can 816 00:40:23,587 --> 00:40:26,147 Speaker 3: make you reel younger, that's outstanding. Thanks for calling mate, 817 00:40:26,227 --> 00:40:29,147 Speaker 3: South Africa so interesting. I don't know if you've watched this. 818 00:40:29,347 --> 00:40:31,187 Speaker 3: Andy sent me a couple of clips from their game 819 00:40:31,267 --> 00:40:33,427 Speaker 3: last night against Italy. The first one I explained before 820 00:40:33,667 --> 00:40:35,347 Speaker 3: when I was chatting to Mark. I think it was 821 00:40:35,747 --> 00:40:39,027 Speaker 3: the first play of the game. They deliberately didn't kick 822 00:40:39,027 --> 00:40:41,587 Speaker 3: the ball ten meters so Italy would get a scrum 823 00:40:42,707 --> 00:40:44,867 Speaker 3: and South Africa woul be able to pack down in 824 00:40:44,907 --> 00:40:47,427 Speaker 3: a scrum with inside the first ten seconds. So they 825 00:40:47,467 --> 00:40:51,547 Speaker 3: basically said, as a show of force, no doubt, we're 826 00:40:51,667 --> 00:40:54,947 Speaker 3: happy enough for there to be a scrum with the 827 00:40:54,987 --> 00:40:57,907 Speaker 3: opposition feed as the first play of the game. The 828 00:40:57,947 --> 00:40:59,627 Speaker 3: other one was they were in midfield. It was a 829 00:40:59,667 --> 00:41:02,147 Speaker 3: ruck was forming and they went to pass it out 830 00:41:02,227 --> 00:41:03,987 Speaker 3: to the first man, but instead of passing it out 831 00:41:04,027 --> 00:41:06,947 Speaker 3: to the regular first man out first receiver run, they 832 00:41:06,947 --> 00:41:10,147 Speaker 3: set up like a lineouse and they lifted one of 833 00:41:10,187 --> 00:41:13,107 Speaker 3: their players in the middle of the field and then 834 00:41:13,107 --> 00:41:14,867 Speaker 3: wrapped around them as if it was a lineout and 835 00:41:14,867 --> 00:41:17,907 Speaker 3: sort of went a few meters ford. They are so innovative, 836 00:41:18,467 --> 00:41:23,507 Speaker 3: South Africa, so innovative. These games in September are going 837 00:41:23,547 --> 00:41:29,307 Speaker 3: to be epic, absolutely epic. Eden Park September sixth, Sky 838 00:41:29,387 --> 00:41:33,347 Speaker 3: Stadium September thirteen, can't wait News at one, then more 839 00:41:33,347 --> 00:41:35,067 Speaker 3: on the rugbyat more of your calls after. 840 00:41:36,187 --> 00:41:39,107 Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on 841 00:41:39,467 --> 00:41:43,347 Speaker 1: and after field. It's all on weekends Ford with Jason 842 00:41:43,467 --> 00:41:47,747 Speaker 1: Taine on your home of Sport in New York. 843 00:41:49,107 --> 00:41:51,747 Speaker 3: News Talks ABEN Weekend Sport. I'm Jason Pine. Andy McDonald 844 00:41:51,787 --> 00:41:56,387 Speaker 3: is running the cutter. It's one oh seven. Thomas Waldrom shortly. 845 00:41:56,987 --> 00:42:00,867 Speaker 3: Former Hurricanes Crusaders, Maordy All Blacks and England loose Ford. 846 00:42:01,587 --> 00:42:04,107 Speaker 3: Pretty astute rugby analyst as well, particularly when it comes 847 00:42:04,107 --> 00:42:07,907 Speaker 3: to loose Ford positions. Thomas Waldrum, He's along shortly in 848 00:42:07,947 --> 00:42:09,987 Speaker 3: an hour or so. We want to get inside the 849 00:42:10,027 --> 00:42:13,107 Speaker 3: Black Sox camp. The Black Sox, our men's softball team 850 00:42:13,107 --> 00:42:16,107 Speaker 3: are at their World Cup. They played Japan this afternoon. 851 00:42:16,147 --> 00:42:19,027 Speaker 3: They're still in with a chance of winning the whole thing. 852 00:42:19,067 --> 00:42:23,147 Speaker 3: It's a top four situation. Japan, New Zealand, Venezuela and 853 00:42:23,187 --> 00:42:25,587 Speaker 3: the United States are the top four. They play a 854 00:42:25,627 --> 00:42:29,707 Speaker 3: game each today and then the top two after the 855 00:42:29,827 --> 00:42:32,627 Speaker 3: round robin of four, if you like, play off for 856 00:42:32,627 --> 00:42:34,107 Speaker 3: the gold medal, and then the next two player for 857 00:42:34,107 --> 00:42:37,347 Speaker 3: the bronze medal. Now even if the Black Socks were 858 00:42:37,387 --> 00:42:43,187 Speaker 3: to beat Japan today, that would not necessarily assure them 859 00:42:43,187 --> 00:42:44,787 Speaker 3: of a place in the gold medal match. It will 860 00:42:44,827 --> 00:42:47,267 Speaker 3: depend on the margin of victory should they achieve it, 861 00:42:47,707 --> 00:42:49,867 Speaker 3: and also the result in the other game between Venezuela 862 00:42:49,907 --> 00:42:52,067 Speaker 3: and the USA. It's quite possible that we can end 863 00:42:52,147 --> 00:42:54,307 Speaker 3: up with a situation where three teams are all equal 864 00:42:54,307 --> 00:42:57,947 Speaker 3: on points and it comes down to points to four 865 00:42:57,987 --> 00:43:02,587 Speaker 3: runs differential or whatever it's called in softball. Anyway, regardless 866 00:43:02,627 --> 00:43:05,587 Speaker 3: of all of that, it was an absolutely unreal moment 867 00:43:05,667 --> 00:43:09,627 Speaker 3: yesterday when New Zealand were playing the United States and 868 00:43:09,667 --> 00:43:12,027 Speaker 3: they're in the bottom of the seventh so the final lining, 869 00:43:12,987 --> 00:43:18,187 Speaker 3: they're down four to two, they're one out and Jerome A. 870 00:43:18,347 --> 00:43:21,507 Speaker 3: Mucky steps up to the plate and with two men 871 00:43:21,587 --> 00:43:25,707 Speaker 3: on base, smacks a walk off home run to win 872 00:43:25,787 --> 00:43:27,987 Speaker 3: five to four. Incredible. He's going to join us after 873 00:43:27,987 --> 00:43:29,747 Speaker 3: two to relive that and look head to the Japan 874 00:43:29,827 --> 00:43:32,587 Speaker 3: game anyway, that's an hour away. This hour, we'll get 875 00:43:32,627 --> 00:43:35,707 Speaker 3: inside the Black Ferns camp and also James mcconey in 876 00:43:35,707 --> 00:43:38,987 Speaker 3: his regular slot. Our lines of communication remain open though 877 00:43:39,147 --> 00:43:41,827 Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine two one. 878 00:43:41,827 --> 00:43:44,147 Speaker 9: Text by God, I've got right. 879 00:43:44,267 --> 00:43:47,307 Speaker 4: They have nothing at a try? 880 00:43:47,867 --> 00:43:53,547 Speaker 19: Well got it number forty one he Jess Lever. 881 00:43:54,067 --> 00:43:57,467 Speaker 3: That's forty one tries now for Will Jordan in forty 882 00:43:57,547 --> 00:44:03,227 Speaker 3: three tests, it's madness. The strike rate with which he 883 00:44:03,307 --> 00:44:06,707 Speaker 3: scores tries. The All Black record is forty nine by 884 00:44:06,707 --> 00:44:08,867 Speaker 3: Doug Hallett. He's got forty one. 885 00:44:08,947 --> 00:44:09,187 Speaker 20: Now. 886 00:44:10,827 --> 00:44:12,667 Speaker 3: It's a pretty tough year for the All Blacks, but 887 00:44:12,707 --> 00:44:15,187 Speaker 3: depending on how many of the Test matches Will Jordan plays, 888 00:44:15,467 --> 00:44:17,307 Speaker 3: he could get there. He could bring up fifty by 889 00:44:17,347 --> 00:44:20,427 Speaker 3: the end of the year. Astonishing. Let's bring in for 890 00:44:20,547 --> 00:44:23,307 Speaker 3: my Maori All Blacks, Hurricanes and Crusaders, Lucy and England 891 00:44:23,347 --> 00:44:26,187 Speaker 3: International now expert analyst on our news talks, there'd be 892 00:44:26,227 --> 00:44:29,907 Speaker 3: Wellington Commentary's Thomas Waldrom Thomas, thanks for your time man. 893 00:44:29,947 --> 00:44:31,867 Speaker 3: How much improvement did you see last night from the 894 00:44:31,867 --> 00:44:35,227 Speaker 3: All Blacks compared to last weekends in Dunedin? 895 00:44:35,787 --> 00:44:36,467 Speaker 7: Yeah, messively. 896 00:44:36,507 --> 00:44:38,667 Speaker 21: I think that's the thing. They're sort of second week 897 00:44:38,707 --> 00:44:40,347 Speaker 21: to give her now like issue, playing a probably game 898 00:44:40,387 --> 00:44:42,907 Speaker 21: instead of training and stuff like that, so you can 899 00:44:42,947 --> 00:44:45,707 Speaker 21: tell that everything was sort of clicking more and I 900 00:44:45,707 --> 00:44:47,187 Speaker 21: think they probably had a bit more look at the 901 00:44:47,587 --> 00:44:49,187 Speaker 21: friends and he saw a couple of players that they 902 00:44:49,907 --> 00:44:52,387 Speaker 21: through the line out there there. So they've definitely done 903 00:44:52,427 --> 00:44:53,947 Speaker 21: their homer during the week and you can tell that 904 00:44:53,987 --> 00:44:56,027 Speaker 21: they'll definitely go bed a lot better this week. 905 00:44:56,107 --> 00:44:57,387 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to come to the line outs at 906 00:44:57,387 --> 00:44:59,787 Speaker 3: the moment, but you know, I think do we have 907 00:44:59,827 --> 00:45:01,947 Speaker 3: to sort of limit our expectations of the All Blacks 908 00:45:01,987 --> 00:45:03,667 Speaker 3: in Week one of any year. I think we can 909 00:45:03,667 --> 00:45:05,667 Speaker 3: expect them. They came out and put fifty on everybody. 910 00:45:05,667 --> 00:45:07,547 Speaker 3: But do we to have to do we need to 911 00:45:07,547 --> 00:45:10,467 Speaker 3: be a little bit less expectant in the first Test 912 00:45:10,507 --> 00:45:11,547 Speaker 3: match of a calendar year. 913 00:45:12,227 --> 00:45:13,587 Speaker 21: I think so. And I think we sort of just 914 00:45:13,707 --> 00:45:15,987 Speaker 21: sometimes we just worry about opposition a bit too much 915 00:45:15,987 --> 00:45:18,707 Speaker 21: in New Gen and and they are they haven't bore 916 00:45:18,707 --> 00:45:20,627 Speaker 21: their best team or a little bit negative. 917 00:45:20,707 --> 00:45:20,907 Speaker 12: I think. 918 00:45:20,987 --> 00:45:21,147 Speaker 7: Yeah. 919 00:45:21,187 --> 00:45:23,667 Speaker 21: I think it's always the tough it's all Sooth Africa 920 00:45:24,227 --> 00:45:27,467 Speaker 21: battle as well against Italy, so everyone sort of all 921 00:45:27,507 --> 00:45:31,427 Speaker 21: the sort of southern hemansphere, guys. Let's sort of starting 922 00:45:31,507 --> 00:45:34,067 Speaker 21: this season where all the northern guys are finishing. And 923 00:45:34,187 --> 00:45:36,147 Speaker 21: you probably can tell that even last night the lines 924 00:45:36,147 --> 00:45:39,987 Speaker 21: where the Australia in z team probably just didn't gail 925 00:45:40,227 --> 00:45:42,787 Speaker 21: quick enough. And these boys events together, they've had their 926 00:45:42,827 --> 00:45:45,427 Speaker 21: what four or fifth game, So yeah, this probably is 927 00:45:45,467 --> 00:45:48,307 Speaker 21: a tough one first up, but that's the thing that 928 00:45:48,347 --> 00:45:49,947 Speaker 21: you can always get better from that one anyway. 929 00:45:50,067 --> 00:45:53,227 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great point. So let's look at the lineouse. 930 00:45:53,267 --> 00:45:56,547 Speaker 3: The first three All Blacks tries came from lineouts, So 931 00:45:57,347 --> 00:46:01,227 Speaker 3: how much work goes into striking like that from set peace? 932 00:46:02,107 --> 00:46:02,267 Speaker 10: Oh? 933 00:46:02,307 --> 00:46:02,667 Speaker 21: Messively. 934 00:46:02,707 --> 00:46:03,187 Speaker 12: And that's the thing. 935 00:46:03,227 --> 00:46:05,627 Speaker 21: It's just the guys that are probably the lineup leaders 936 00:46:05,627 --> 00:46:07,987 Speaker 21: are looking opportuny these and because yes, thing, you just 937 00:46:08,027 --> 00:46:09,587 Speaker 21: want to win. You want to win your ball most 938 00:46:09,587 --> 00:46:11,347 Speaker 21: of the time. But then if you see opportunities that 939 00:46:12,227 --> 00:46:14,587 Speaker 21: they must have picked out there. The nine in the 940 00:46:14,667 --> 00:46:17,187 Speaker 21: twenty two probably defense at the back of the lineout 941 00:46:17,227 --> 00:46:19,267 Speaker 21: and the two might cover a bit quickly for the drive. 942 00:46:19,387 --> 00:46:22,227 Speaker 21: So yeah, you see opportunities. And that's the thing when 943 00:46:22,267 --> 00:46:26,307 Speaker 21: you got well the whole squad, maybe what twenty forwards 944 00:46:26,387 --> 00:46:28,867 Speaker 21: or so looking at different parts of lineout, someone always 945 00:46:28,907 --> 00:46:31,147 Speaker 21: picks up something that you can exploit. And I think 946 00:46:31,187 --> 00:46:32,667 Speaker 21: all backs definitely saw there yesterday. 947 00:46:32,787 --> 00:46:34,787 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bryan Evans must be pretty stoke day he's coming 948 00:46:34,827 --> 00:46:37,227 Speaker 3: as lineout coach. And you know the scoring tries for 949 00:46:37,267 --> 00:46:39,547 Speaker 3: fun from lineout, Oh. 950 00:46:39,427 --> 00:46:41,467 Speaker 21: Definitely, And that's the thing, is stamping his mark on it. 951 00:46:41,467 --> 00:46:44,467 Speaker 21: And I think that's the same as the driving nine 952 00:46:44,467 --> 00:46:47,027 Speaker 21: outs as well, probably have the last couple of years. 953 00:46:47,027 --> 00:46:48,667 Speaker 21: You Zone's probably been the best at it because of 954 00:46:49,027 --> 00:46:51,827 Speaker 21: Jason Ryan of what he's brought to the Crusaders, like 955 00:46:51,987 --> 00:46:54,747 Speaker 21: the stop it in the mall as massive, and I 956 00:46:54,907 --> 00:46:56,547 Speaker 21: know New Genre has done a lot of work on that. 957 00:46:56,707 --> 00:47:00,627 Speaker 21: So yes, big credits of both coaches sort of getting 958 00:47:00,627 --> 00:47:03,827 Speaker 21: these forwards in the right space nine times out of ten. 959 00:47:04,187 --> 00:47:06,187 Speaker 3: Do you like to poor vity at six? 960 00:47:08,267 --> 00:47:10,307 Speaker 21: I had a question mark about it, but to be 961 00:47:10,947 --> 00:47:12,587 Speaker 21: to be, Fear's probably been the best for them on 962 00:47:12,667 --> 00:47:16,787 Speaker 21: the last two weeks, So yeah, that's the thing. Has 963 00:47:17,347 --> 00:47:20,027 Speaker 21: When I was sort of resourcing for the under twenties, 964 00:47:20,107 --> 00:47:22,027 Speaker 21: must have been for about four or five years ago. 965 00:47:22,027 --> 00:47:25,227 Speaker 21: When I came back, we didn't have any locks and 966 00:47:25,587 --> 00:47:26,907 Speaker 21: I was sorry. We had a buntance of locks, but 967 00:47:26,987 --> 00:47:29,747 Speaker 21: no six. And we were tended to take him as 968 00:47:29,747 --> 00:47:32,507 Speaker 21: a sex as well before COVID hit, So yeah, there 969 00:47:32,547 --> 00:47:33,947 Speaker 21: was potential we were going to look at him at 970 00:47:33,947 --> 00:47:37,067 Speaker 21: six anyway, but no, he's definitely stepped up their void 971 00:47:37,147 --> 00:47:39,427 Speaker 21: and sort of smash with both ends. 972 00:47:39,467 --> 00:47:43,067 Speaker 3: Really he had look he has is it? I don't know. 973 00:47:43,187 --> 00:47:43,867 Speaker 2: I don't think. 974 00:47:43,947 --> 00:47:46,827 Speaker 3: I don't feel like every lock can play six, you know, 975 00:47:47,067 --> 00:47:50,227 Speaker 3: So what is it about to Borvai in particular, you know, 976 00:47:50,347 --> 00:47:53,347 Speaker 3: that would allow him perhaps to take ownership of this 977 00:47:53,827 --> 00:47:55,107 Speaker 3: six jersey moving forward? 978 00:47:55,707 --> 00:47:57,387 Speaker 21: Yeah, And I think you sort of look at all 979 00:47:57,427 --> 00:48:00,027 Speaker 21: the sexes we've had in the past, like Jerome Klino, 980 00:48:00,227 --> 00:48:02,987 Speaker 21: like the ones that have stayed there, like Jerry, what's 981 00:48:03,267 --> 00:48:05,307 Speaker 21: you know, what's the difference with them? I think it's 982 00:48:05,347 --> 00:48:09,147 Speaker 21: the X factor. They've got something by Jerry on defense. 983 00:48:09,227 --> 00:48:11,067 Speaker 21: You you want to go anywhere near him if your 984 00:48:11,067 --> 00:48:13,627 Speaker 21: if you've got the ball in hand, and Sam as Jerome, 985 00:48:13,667 --> 00:48:16,067 Speaker 21: and I think Toby has actually got a presence in 986 00:48:16,107 --> 00:48:18,867 Speaker 21: their space. So I think it's yeah, some of them 987 00:48:19,067 --> 00:48:21,387 Speaker 21: just thinking about him the last couple of weeks. I 988 00:48:21,427 --> 00:48:23,867 Speaker 21: think all the well, yeah, he's he's got in the 989 00:48:23,907 --> 00:48:25,787 Speaker 21: open as well, so he's got some pace behind him 990 00:48:25,827 --> 00:48:27,787 Speaker 21: unless sort of yeah, what you need? 991 00:48:27,987 --> 00:48:29,707 Speaker 3: It helps in the lineout? Two are going back to that, 992 00:48:29,747 --> 00:48:32,507 Speaker 3: doesn't it When you've effectively got three locks in the lineout? 993 00:48:32,547 --> 00:48:37,067 Speaker 3: And Christian Leo Williardi Savia plenty of options at lineout time. 994 00:48:37,147 --> 00:48:40,467 Speaker 3: So when Wallace Satiti comes back, can you see against 995 00:48:40,507 --> 00:48:45,267 Speaker 3: South Africa via at six, save at seven, SA Titi 996 00:48:45,307 --> 00:48:45,627 Speaker 3: at eight. 997 00:48:46,467 --> 00:48:48,467 Speaker 21: Yeah, I think you've got to give him a crack there. 998 00:48:48,667 --> 00:48:51,827 Speaker 21: So I know the Frenches and the as they say, 999 00:48:51,827 --> 00:48:53,907 Speaker 21: didn't bring their best team, but you've still got to 1000 00:48:54,067 --> 00:48:55,707 Speaker 21: play what's in front of you. Where Africa will be 1001 00:48:55,907 --> 00:48:59,587 Speaker 21: a big, big test watching them, watching the highlights before though, 1002 00:49:00,187 --> 00:49:02,667 Speaker 21: they're so physical, they're just in your face, so it's 1003 00:49:02,667 --> 00:49:06,307 Speaker 21: going to be some different people they are going to 1004 00:49:06,387 --> 00:49:08,507 Speaker 21: come against. And just even this school like you know Whide, 1005 00:49:08,547 --> 00:49:11,307 Speaker 21: but they had a couple tries where three or four 1006 00:49:11,347 --> 00:49:13,707 Speaker 21: passes on the outside all ball in front of them, 1007 00:49:13,867 --> 00:49:15,907 Speaker 21: so it's gonna it was definitely a bigger challenge. But 1008 00:49:15,947 --> 00:49:17,747 Speaker 21: I still think he deserves a shot there. 1009 00:49:18,067 --> 00:49:20,147 Speaker 3: You were renowned for your physicality and you weren't the 1010 00:49:20,147 --> 00:49:23,747 Speaker 3: biggest guy. How much of it is mental? 1011 00:49:24,027 --> 00:49:24,867 Speaker 7: I think quite a lot. 1012 00:49:24,947 --> 00:49:27,987 Speaker 21: But yeah, so that's because as I tell you, I 1013 00:49:28,107 --> 00:49:30,267 Speaker 21: like you just yeah, I think if you overthink it, 1014 00:49:31,267 --> 00:49:33,267 Speaker 21: and I was pretty lucky, I didn't have many injuries 1015 00:49:33,267 --> 00:49:36,667 Speaker 21: in my career and stuff, so I didn't really have 1016 00:49:36,747 --> 00:49:39,347 Speaker 21: any doubts of well, well, my body couldn't handle this 1017 00:49:39,467 --> 00:49:41,627 Speaker 21: or couldn't do this, and I was just probably just 1018 00:49:41,827 --> 00:49:43,987 Speaker 21: head down and just going as hard as you can 1019 00:49:44,227 --> 00:49:45,107 Speaker 21: for as long as you can. 1020 00:49:46,227 --> 00:49:49,667 Speaker 3: And I mean it sounds I don't know physicality. It's 1021 00:49:49,667 --> 00:49:51,787 Speaker 3: such an interesting concept to meet Thomas, you know, having 1022 00:49:51,827 --> 00:49:54,547 Speaker 3: never been in the situation. You know, I just feel 1023 00:49:54,547 --> 00:49:56,227 Speaker 3: like you know, I have do You just have to 1024 00:49:56,267 --> 00:49:58,667 Speaker 3: accept that you're going to actually put your body through 1025 00:49:59,027 --> 00:50:00,387 Speaker 3: a bit across the eighty minutes. 1026 00:50:01,027 --> 00:50:03,427 Speaker 21: Oh, you definitely, yeah, And that's that's the good thing 1027 00:50:03,467 --> 00:50:07,027 Speaker 21: about being like being professional, you because you've got weeks 1028 00:50:07,067 --> 00:50:09,747 Speaker 21: and months and stuff like that as at a stop 1029 00:50:09,787 --> 00:50:11,707 Speaker 21: start when you get injured. But I was lucky enough 1030 00:50:11,787 --> 00:50:14,267 Speaker 21: I could always if you string, like I always say 1031 00:50:14,267 --> 00:50:16,507 Speaker 21: to people, you can string five or six games eighty 1032 00:50:16,547 --> 00:50:20,867 Speaker 21: minute performances you set up for a long while if 1033 00:50:20,907 --> 00:50:22,627 Speaker 21: you if you don't get injured, and you can just 1034 00:50:22,707 --> 00:50:25,387 Speaker 21: keep going and you just have to, yeah, deal with 1035 00:50:25,427 --> 00:50:29,907 Speaker 21: the aftermath on a Saturday's about how you recover and 1036 00:50:29,907 --> 00:50:32,507 Speaker 21: stuff like that as well. So talk me a while 1037 00:50:32,547 --> 00:50:35,747 Speaker 21: to understand recovery. But once you understand it and know 1038 00:50:35,787 --> 00:50:38,627 Speaker 21: why why it's so important. It's it's a it's a 1039 00:50:38,627 --> 00:50:39,867 Speaker 21: great tool to have as well. 1040 00:50:40,107 --> 00:50:42,107 Speaker 3: The yellow catter boat and bear it last night for 1041 00:50:42,147 --> 00:50:44,707 Speaker 3: that knockdown. As a player, what are you supposed to 1042 00:50:44,747 --> 00:50:45,747 Speaker 3: do in that situation. 1043 00:50:47,187 --> 00:50:51,267 Speaker 21: Yeah, that's a that's a tough one as well. Yeah, 1044 00:50:52,067 --> 00:50:54,667 Speaker 21: there's instincts and there's opportunities that you see that you 1045 00:50:54,787 --> 00:50:57,467 Speaker 21: sort of go, oh, I'm a little bit out of position, 1046 00:50:58,027 --> 00:50:59,867 Speaker 21: but if I can grab the. 1047 00:50:59,787 --> 00:51:01,267 Speaker 18: Ball, I go for it. 1048 00:51:01,347 --> 00:51:03,547 Speaker 21: And it's it's been a hard one for a few 1049 00:51:03,627 --> 00:51:06,227 Speaker 21: years where any put your if you put your hand, 1050 00:51:06,427 --> 00:51:08,187 Speaker 21: you're going to be in trouble for go straight to ground. 1051 00:51:08,747 --> 00:51:11,587 Speaker 21: H Well, probably I'd look at it more as if 1052 00:51:11,587 --> 00:51:13,987 Speaker 21: you're part spacing up, because then you're you're trying to 1053 00:51:13,987 --> 00:51:15,787 Speaker 21: catch it on you you're trying to beat it up 1054 00:51:15,827 --> 00:51:17,867 Speaker 21: so you've got more time to get it. But then 1055 00:51:17,867 --> 00:51:20,907 Speaker 21: if your hands down, it's sort of a different way 1056 00:51:21,067 --> 00:51:24,227 Speaker 21: that you you have got no attempt to get it whatsoever. 1057 00:51:24,307 --> 00:51:26,667 Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, I understand the I think we all understand 1058 00:51:26,707 --> 00:51:28,507 Speaker 3: the intent of the law, don't. Well, you don't want 1059 00:51:28,547 --> 00:51:30,427 Speaker 3: a guy, you know, batting a ball down when there's 1060 00:51:30,467 --> 00:51:33,107 Speaker 3: an overlap on the outside. But I like I said, 1061 00:51:33,147 --> 00:51:34,947 Speaker 3: I think in your position of the hands a great, 1062 00:51:35,147 --> 00:51:36,907 Speaker 3: great way of looking at it. I'm not sure what 1063 00:51:36,947 --> 00:51:38,747 Speaker 3: else Bowden Barrick can do it. I just think he's 1064 00:51:39,107 --> 00:51:41,067 Speaker 3: He's just in an actual position the ball set his hand, 1065 00:51:41,147 --> 00:51:41,507 Speaker 3: isn't it. 1066 00:51:41,987 --> 00:51:43,907 Speaker 21: Yeah, And because I thought it was a bit weird 1067 00:51:43,907 --> 00:51:47,107 Speaker 21: as well, because I see it wrong where the team 1068 00:51:47,147 --> 00:51:48,987 Speaker 21: I said it was a forward pass anyway. 1069 00:51:49,467 --> 00:51:51,827 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I actually thought the French blake knocked it 1070 00:51:51,867 --> 00:51:54,627 Speaker 3: on too, So yeah, what's going on there? 1071 00:51:54,827 --> 00:51:55,027 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1072 00:51:55,027 --> 00:51:56,627 Speaker 21: So when he said as a forward passed, so the 1073 00:51:56,667 --> 00:51:58,867 Speaker 21: trial was never going to stand. So did that count 1074 00:51:59,307 --> 00:52:02,587 Speaker 21: they're out from body? Yeah, I would have thought they 1075 00:52:02,587 --> 00:52:05,067 Speaker 21: would have counted everything out of it was a normal 1076 00:52:05,067 --> 00:52:07,707 Speaker 21: pass and it happened then, but then sleep. But yeah, 1077 00:52:07,787 --> 00:52:10,987 Speaker 21: forward pass and the knockdown in ten minutes, it's pretty tough, 1078 00:52:11,027 --> 00:52:11,947 Speaker 21: I think absolutely. 1079 00:52:12,027 --> 00:52:14,027 Speaker 3: I totally agree. Are you played a bit of rugby 1080 00:52:14,067 --> 00:52:17,027 Speaker 3: at that ground? It actually wasn't too bad last night 1081 00:52:17,067 --> 00:52:19,507 Speaker 3: weather wise, but you know, it does blow, it does 1082 00:52:19,547 --> 00:52:21,907 Speaker 3: swirl around. How tricky is that venue to play in? 1083 00:52:22,667 --> 00:52:23,027 Speaker 21: Yeah? 1084 00:52:23,107 --> 00:52:24,107 Speaker 9: It is. 1085 00:52:24,227 --> 00:52:27,067 Speaker 21: But that's the thing that's when you understand it and 1086 00:52:27,427 --> 00:52:30,747 Speaker 21: you know where the wind's coming from and best taking 1087 00:52:30,747 --> 00:52:33,147 Speaker 21: advantage of it. That's the thing. Having a few one 1088 00:52:33,147 --> 00:52:36,747 Speaker 21: into players like Jordie would have directed a lot of 1089 00:52:36,747 --> 00:52:38,827 Speaker 21: players and he would have known that, and that's the thing. 1090 00:52:38,867 --> 00:52:40,987 Speaker 21: But the grounds amazing because the mount of rain we've 1091 00:52:40,987 --> 00:52:43,267 Speaker 21: had one into and I've sort of watched a couple 1092 00:52:43,307 --> 00:52:46,467 Speaker 21: of club rugby games yesterday and college rugby. The grounds 1093 00:52:46,467 --> 00:52:49,947 Speaker 21: were just soaking. There was just mud everywhere and there 1094 00:52:49,987 --> 00:52:51,947 Speaker 21: was no running rugby. It was just tucking up to 1095 00:52:51,987 --> 00:52:55,427 Speaker 21: the forward. So to see the crowd and how pristine 1096 00:52:55,467 --> 00:52:56,947 Speaker 21: it is, it was awesome, all right. 1097 00:52:56,947 --> 00:52:58,627 Speaker 3: And just to finish the All Black snow they've won 1098 00:52:58,667 --> 00:53:01,827 Speaker 3: the series. Now France know they've lost the series, and 1099 00:53:01,867 --> 00:53:05,307 Speaker 3: I'm sure they're probably just wanting to get home. What 1100 00:53:05,347 --> 00:53:07,507 Speaker 3: do you expect to happen in Taste three in Hamilton 1101 00:53:07,547 --> 00:53:08,187 Speaker 3: next weekend? 1102 00:53:09,107 --> 00:53:09,307 Speaker 10: Yeah? 1103 00:53:09,307 --> 00:53:11,147 Speaker 21: I think because it's the last game of the season 1104 00:53:11,147 --> 00:53:12,907 Speaker 21: as well. I think after this they go back and 1105 00:53:12,907 --> 00:53:16,107 Speaker 21: they sort of they have five six weeks off to 1106 00:53:16,107 --> 00:53:17,827 Speaker 21: go back to the clubs and stuff, so I think 1107 00:53:17,867 --> 00:53:20,547 Speaker 21: they I'm hoping that they throw everything at it because 1108 00:53:20,747 --> 00:53:23,427 Speaker 21: nothing to lose, they sort of enjoy the week. I 1109 00:53:23,467 --> 00:53:24,547 Speaker 21: don't from what I learned. 1110 00:53:24,587 --> 00:53:26,067 Speaker 12: Then they're going to Hamilton know that they're going straight 1111 00:53:26,067 --> 00:53:26,547 Speaker 12: to Auckland. 1112 00:53:26,627 --> 00:53:29,347 Speaker 3: That's the French. Yeah, no, that yeah, I think I'm 1113 00:53:29,347 --> 00:53:30,627 Speaker 3: not sure. I think the All Blacks might be going 1114 00:53:30,627 --> 00:53:32,307 Speaker 3: to Hamilton. I think France and said and I will 1115 00:53:32,307 --> 00:53:33,867 Speaker 3: come down the day before or something. 1116 00:53:33,987 --> 00:53:34,187 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1117 00:53:34,667 --> 00:53:38,347 Speaker 21: Yeah, so that's that much show that they potentially will 1118 00:53:38,347 --> 00:53:41,987 Speaker 21: go to Auckland and enjoy themselves up there and experience 1119 00:53:42,027 --> 00:53:45,547 Speaker 21: I will Orckland has an officer and stuff. So yeah, 1120 00:53:45,587 --> 00:53:47,107 Speaker 21: so I think they want to probably experience a bit 1121 00:53:47,107 --> 00:53:49,867 Speaker 21: of New Zealand. So yes, the last game, I know 1122 00:53:49,907 --> 00:53:51,627 Speaker 21: this thing. I'm hoping they'd just sort of come out 1123 00:53:52,147 --> 00:53:55,987 Speaker 21: I have no fear and maybe stick to the A 1124 00:53:56,107 --> 00:53:57,987 Speaker 21: team that he thinks he's just going to go on 1125 00:53:57,987 --> 00:54:01,347 Speaker 21: one sort of instead of dropping and changing thirteen guys. 1126 00:54:01,387 --> 00:54:03,107 Speaker 21: I think it's pretty tough as well, so hopefully you 1127 00:54:03,107 --> 00:54:06,227 Speaker 21: can stick with a solid fifteen and then go after it. 1128 00:54:06,427 --> 00:54:08,507 Speaker 3: That for the French anyway, but tough on the tourism 1129 00:54:08,507 --> 00:54:11,627 Speaker 3: industry of Hamilton, isn't it not going to Hamilton? 1130 00:54:12,227 --> 00:54:15,787 Speaker 21: No exactly, And yeah, I just yeah, I had an 1131 00:54:16,787 --> 00:54:18,827 Speaker 21: when they were questioned that they were just like, oh no, 1132 00:54:19,587 --> 00:54:22,267 Speaker 21: we're going to talk withand there was no Yeah, there 1133 00:54:22,347 --> 00:54:25,827 Speaker 21: was no, how you're not. They just didn't have same thing. 1134 00:54:25,907 --> 00:54:28,067 Speaker 3: They realized we're just not going to We're just not 1135 00:54:28,147 --> 00:54:30,107 Speaker 3: going until the game. Good stuff, Thomas. Hey, great to 1136 00:54:30,107 --> 00:54:32,467 Speaker 3: get your analysis, mate. Thanks for taking the time this afternoon. 1137 00:54:33,507 --> 00:54:33,667 Speaker 9: Mate. 1138 00:54:33,667 --> 00:54:35,707 Speaker 3: I'll talk you so yeah, look forward to mate. Thomas Waltram, 1139 00:54:36,147 --> 00:54:40,987 Speaker 3: former Hurricanes crusaders, Maori, All Blacks England loose forward. It's 1140 00:54:41,347 --> 00:54:43,707 Speaker 3: one on the dot. We got some time, some more 1141 00:54:43,707 --> 00:54:45,427 Speaker 3: time to talk some rugby. I want to get inside 1142 00:54:45,467 --> 00:54:47,187 Speaker 3: the Black Fern's camp at some stage in the next 1143 00:54:47,347 --> 00:54:50,907 Speaker 3: fifteen minutes or so, just to check on where they 1144 00:54:50,947 --> 00:54:53,187 Speaker 3: think they are ahead of the World Cup, which starts 1145 00:54:53,267 --> 00:54:58,027 Speaker 3: next month. A good win yesterday in Wellington, Georgia Miller 1146 00:54:58,067 --> 00:55:00,507 Speaker 3: absolute freak of a rugby player. Did you see that, Trish? 1147 00:55:00,507 --> 00:55:04,987 Speaker 3: She scored incredible. I wonder how they'll go over at 1148 00:55:04,987 --> 00:55:06,747 Speaker 3: that World Cup and they won't be fair of course, 1149 00:55:06,787 --> 00:55:09,707 Speaker 3: not England the favorite to win it. But yeah, well 1150 00:55:09,707 --> 00:55:11,547 Speaker 3: we'll get inside their camp surely. Oh eight hundred and 1151 00:55:11,587 --> 00:55:13,907 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty on the All Blacks. Anything residual we 1152 00:55:13,947 --> 00:55:15,987 Speaker 3: didn't cover off in the last hour. If you couldn't 1153 00:55:16,027 --> 00:55:18,067 Speaker 3: get through, and now's your chance. There was a spare 1154 00:55:18,067 --> 00:55:21,147 Speaker 3: line eight hundred eighty ten eighty couple on text. Aiden 1155 00:55:21,187 --> 00:55:24,427 Speaker 3: says the scariest thing about South Africa is how on 1156 00:55:24,667 --> 00:55:27,587 Speaker 3: top of all of their fundamentals they have to be 1157 00:55:27,827 --> 00:55:31,547 Speaker 3: to be able to be so creative and so innovative. 1158 00:55:32,267 --> 00:55:35,027 Speaker 3: Watch Russy and Tony Brown on the sideline, quite different 1159 00:55:35,027 --> 00:55:38,827 Speaker 3: to other coach boxes, lower stress and higher happiness, having 1160 00:55:38,867 --> 00:55:41,827 Speaker 3: fun playing great rugby. There's absolutely no doubt they're at 1161 00:55:41,867 --> 00:55:46,427 Speaker 3: the top of their game. They are fully in control 1162 00:55:47,187 --> 00:55:51,947 Speaker 3: of their of their game plan and are willing to innovate. 1163 00:55:52,067 --> 00:55:53,907 Speaker 3: And Tony Brown's got to have his fingerprints on that 1164 00:55:53,947 --> 00:55:57,267 Speaker 3: sort of thing. They just are going to provide a 1165 00:55:57,267 --> 00:56:01,747 Speaker 3: couple of mouth watering test matches here in September Pinte. 1166 00:56:01,787 --> 00:56:04,627 Speaker 3: How would you feel, asks John, in a World Cup 1167 00:56:04,667 --> 00:56:07,507 Speaker 3: final if a spring Bok Orf French player did what 1168 00:56:07,547 --> 00:56:10,467 Speaker 3: body did and got a yellow. What are you saying, Ah, 1169 00:56:10,587 --> 00:56:13,427 Speaker 3: that's a bit tough. People will scream at a referee 1170 00:56:13,467 --> 00:56:15,787 Speaker 3: if he's not enforcing the rule, and then scream at 1171 00:56:15,787 --> 00:56:20,187 Speaker 3: the referee if he is enforcing the rule. Look what, John, 1172 00:56:20,187 --> 00:56:22,587 Speaker 3: What I hope is that I would feel exactly the 1173 00:56:22,627 --> 00:56:25,227 Speaker 3: same way that I would feel like a deliberate knockdown 1174 00:56:26,547 --> 00:56:28,987 Speaker 3: or the ruling of a deliberate knockdown when it often 1175 00:56:29,147 --> 00:56:31,427 Speaker 3: is anything but being given a yellow cart as a 1176 00:56:31,467 --> 00:56:33,467 Speaker 3: harsh call. I thought it was last week when France 1177 00:56:34,707 --> 00:56:36,867 Speaker 3: with a victim of it. I'd like to think that 1178 00:56:36,947 --> 00:56:38,587 Speaker 3: in the World Cup final if it happened to the 1179 00:56:38,627 --> 00:56:41,787 Speaker 3: other team, I'd feel exactly the same way. I don't know, 1180 00:56:42,227 --> 00:56:42,947 Speaker 3: I think I would. 1181 00:56:43,027 --> 00:56:47,787 Speaker 13: Hello, Ralph, Oh, good morning afternoon. 1182 00:56:47,307 --> 00:56:48,627 Speaker 3: Is it I think so? 1183 00:56:48,827 --> 00:56:48,947 Speaker 9: Well? 1184 00:56:48,947 --> 00:56:51,627 Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to tell on Sundays, isn't it, Ralph. 1185 00:56:51,747 --> 00:56:54,507 Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm running a bit late, but I don't think 1186 00:56:54,507 --> 00:56:56,907 Speaker 13: i'd heard mentioned today that for the first time, and 1187 00:56:57,187 --> 00:56:59,667 Speaker 13: I don't know how many years, the all black team 1188 00:56:59,707 --> 00:57:02,067 Speaker 13: all had the same color boots on for a change. 1189 00:57:03,107 --> 00:57:05,387 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got the yellow fluoro ones. Yeah, they've got 1190 00:57:05,427 --> 00:57:07,547 Speaker 3: the yellow fluoroes. They wore them last week as well. 1191 00:57:07,587 --> 00:57:10,067 Speaker 3: I think that must be some sort of new thing, 1192 00:57:10,307 --> 00:57:12,507 Speaker 3: because I was talking a couple of other journeys about 1193 00:57:12,547 --> 00:57:15,667 Speaker 3: it last week, Ralph. And you know, normally they have 1194 00:57:15,707 --> 00:57:17,707 Speaker 3: a few blokes wearing black ones at least, but now 1195 00:57:17,747 --> 00:57:20,027 Speaker 3: they're all in the fluorescent yellow. 1196 00:57:21,107 --> 00:57:24,627 Speaker 13: Well, I think it's about time because coming from a 1197 00:57:24,667 --> 00:57:28,067 Speaker 13: men's weird business. I like people to dress dress well, 1198 00:57:28,227 --> 00:57:30,427 Speaker 13: and I thought they looked like a bloody, scruffy team 1199 00:57:30,787 --> 00:57:33,027 Speaker 13: always when they come out with their different colored boots on. 1200 00:57:33,707 --> 00:57:35,907 Speaker 13: But that's only my own opinion, of course. 1201 00:57:35,947 --> 00:57:37,707 Speaker 3: Well of God, and that's not what this is about. 1202 00:57:37,907 --> 00:57:40,987 Speaker 3: It's about opinions. Look, it gives a uniformity to it, Ralph, 1203 00:57:41,027 --> 00:57:44,467 Speaker 3: doesn't I wonder I know that there are there's a 1204 00:57:44,507 --> 00:57:48,267 Speaker 3: section of that team, and of all teams I'm sure 1205 00:57:48,307 --> 00:57:51,387 Speaker 3: who were quite traditional and would probably have preferred if 1206 00:57:51,427 --> 00:57:52,027 Speaker 3: they were black. 1207 00:57:52,587 --> 00:57:52,987 Speaker 10: I don't know. 1208 00:57:53,187 --> 00:57:55,187 Speaker 3: I remember Richie McCaul was always very keen on the 1209 00:57:55,187 --> 00:57:56,267 Speaker 3: black boots for example. 1210 00:57:56,267 --> 00:58:00,347 Speaker 13: He's not there any miracles exactly exactly, but that was 1211 00:58:00,427 --> 00:58:02,867 Speaker 13: I think probably the last time that they did, where 1212 00:58:03,227 --> 00:58:06,027 Speaker 13: it might have even been prior to that that. I'm 1213 00:58:06,387 --> 00:58:09,507 Speaker 13: when they all will black anyway, but I'm so pleased 1214 00:58:09,507 --> 00:58:11,467 Speaker 13: about it, and I think you'll see there will be 1215 00:58:11,507 --> 00:58:14,627 Speaker 13: a train set there and suddenly some other teams will 1216 00:58:14,707 --> 00:58:15,347 Speaker 13: change as well. 1217 00:58:16,587 --> 00:58:18,427 Speaker 3: Good on your elf, I appreciate it very much. 1218 00:58:18,427 --> 00:58:18,627 Speaker 2: Mate. 1219 00:58:18,667 --> 00:58:22,707 Speaker 3: The boots catching the eye last night. I saw they. 1220 00:58:23,787 --> 00:58:26,227 Speaker 3: I went to the Captain's running d'need and last Friday 1221 00:58:26,707 --> 00:58:28,427 Speaker 3: and they all had the yellow boots on there. I 1222 00:58:28,427 --> 00:58:30,347 Speaker 3: thought that's a bit odd. It's sort of I mean, 1223 00:58:30,547 --> 00:58:33,707 Speaker 3: it does catch your eye. They're florish and yellow after all, 1224 00:58:34,387 --> 00:58:37,427 Speaker 3: and I wonder whether they were training boots. But then 1225 00:58:37,467 --> 00:58:39,987 Speaker 3: they all had them on, and then the following night, 1226 00:58:40,107 --> 00:58:42,067 Speaker 3: and then last night they all had them on as well. So, 1227 00:58:42,667 --> 00:58:45,387 Speaker 3: because boots are a very personal thing, I get the 1228 00:58:45,387 --> 00:58:47,707 Speaker 3: feeling you get a set of boots that you really 1229 00:58:47,867 --> 00:58:49,747 Speaker 3: like and you want to wear them all the time. 1230 00:58:50,227 --> 00:58:52,987 Speaker 3: It's probably a little bit like a cricket bat that 1231 00:58:53,067 --> 00:58:55,467 Speaker 3: you've got your favorite one that's got you a few 1232 00:58:55,547 --> 00:58:58,627 Speaker 3: runs and you want to keep on using it. I 1233 00:58:58,627 --> 00:59:02,027 Speaker 3: guess they're probably now at the stage with the technology 1234 00:59:02,067 --> 00:59:05,867 Speaker 3: they probably they probably just molded them all specifically for 1235 00:59:06,507 --> 00:59:08,267 Speaker 3: each of the players. I know that, you know, the 1236 00:59:08,307 --> 00:59:10,827 Speaker 3: boots worn by front rowers serve a very different purpose 1237 00:59:11,347 --> 00:59:13,947 Speaker 3: than the boots worn by somebody playing in the back three. 1238 00:59:14,027 --> 00:59:17,787 Speaker 3: But they're all the same color. They are all the 1239 00:59:17,827 --> 00:59:23,307 Speaker 3: same color. Were they fluorescent yellow or canary yellow? Saysistic, 1240 00:59:23,347 --> 00:59:26,467 Speaker 3: certainly not canary yellow? Gilet pinty. Congrats to the all blacks, 1241 00:59:27,067 --> 00:59:29,747 Speaker 3: says Gunner. To me, that was a huge improvement. One 1242 00:59:30,147 --> 00:59:32,547 Speaker 3: the game plan to pin the French in their corners 1243 00:59:32,587 --> 00:59:35,667 Speaker 3: and deepen their twenty two, backing their defense and waiting 1244 00:59:35,707 --> 00:59:39,147 Speaker 3: for the mistakes to come. Number two contesting almost every 1245 00:59:39,187 --> 00:59:41,827 Speaker 3: French line out in the first half, which led to 1246 00:59:41,867 --> 00:59:45,507 Speaker 3: bonus possession number three. All Blacks forward pack playing as 1247 00:59:45,547 --> 00:59:48,387 Speaker 3: a unit. Well done, Jason Ryan. I thought the French 1248 00:59:48,427 --> 00:59:51,787 Speaker 3: mister trek by not starting their giant reserve forwards at 1249 00:59:51,787 --> 00:59:54,067 Speaker 3: the start of the game, just for their size and 1250 00:59:54,187 --> 00:59:56,987 Speaker 3: physical power, it is a bit late to introduce them 1251 00:59:56,987 --> 01:00:00,107 Speaker 3: when they're twenty six points down at halftime, by which 1252 01:00:00,147 --> 01:00:02,667 Speaker 3: time I thought the game was well and truly over. 1253 01:00:02,987 --> 01:00:06,787 Speaker 3: Thank you, Gunner, good thoughts from you as always. I 1254 01:00:06,787 --> 01:00:09,187 Speaker 3: spoke briefly after the game with All Blacks half back 1255 01:00:09,227 --> 01:00:10,387 Speaker 3: Cam Royguard as well. 1256 01:00:10,987 --> 01:00:11,987 Speaker 9: Yeah, I really proud. 1257 01:00:12,427 --> 01:00:14,827 Speaker 22: I guess you know, last week we missed a lot 1258 01:00:14,827 --> 01:00:17,547 Speaker 22: of opportunities and gave the French a lot, and I 1259 01:00:17,547 --> 01:00:20,147 Speaker 22: feel like this this weekend we improved a lot and 1260 01:00:20,147 --> 01:00:22,067 Speaker 22: sort of fixed a lot of that. I was really 1261 01:00:22,067 --> 01:00:24,107 Speaker 22: pleased with our I guess, our kicking game and the 1262 01:00:24,147 --> 01:00:26,147 Speaker 22: balance that we showed. You know, I wasn't just me 1263 01:00:26,227 --> 01:00:27,867 Speaker 22: kicking the whole time, you know, Be's got some great 1264 01:00:27,907 --> 01:00:29,947 Speaker 22: kicks and behind and will as well, and we're able 1265 01:00:29,947 --> 01:00:32,307 Speaker 22: to apply pressure through our kicking game, and ye're able 1266 01:00:32,307 --> 01:00:34,387 Speaker 22: to strike as well when we got down too. You know, 1267 01:00:34,427 --> 01:00:36,067 Speaker 22: they're twenty two, so yeah, really please. 1268 01:00:36,267 --> 01:00:38,227 Speaker 3: Yeah, you spoke during the week to me actually about 1269 01:00:38,267 --> 01:00:39,907 Speaker 3: the accur receive your kicking and how it does need 1270 01:00:39,907 --> 01:00:41,827 Speaker 3: to be accurate here on Wellington Ground. You know, Well, 1271 01:00:42,107 --> 01:00:44,507 Speaker 3: were you pleased with your kicking from base of the 1272 01:00:44,547 --> 01:00:46,627 Speaker 3: ruck and that sort of thing kicks and play? Yeah, 1273 01:00:46,627 --> 01:00:47,267 Speaker 3: I think so it was. 1274 01:00:48,147 --> 01:00:49,627 Speaker 22: It is a bit so early here, you know, and 1275 01:00:49,827 --> 01:00:51,827 Speaker 22: I guess if you don't play here often it can sort. 1276 01:00:51,707 --> 01:00:52,827 Speaker 3: Of mess with your head a little bit. 1277 01:00:52,867 --> 01:00:54,907 Speaker 22: So probably pretty pleased that I've played here a few 1278 01:00:54,907 --> 01:00:56,587 Speaker 22: times now and I was able to sort of just 1279 01:00:56,627 --> 01:00:59,387 Speaker 22: trust what I've you know, done, you know, many times 1280 01:00:59,667 --> 01:01:01,907 Speaker 22: playing here before, so you know, when I was putting 1281 01:01:01,907 --> 01:01:03,627 Speaker 22: them out, I was trying to get the most out 1282 01:01:03,667 --> 01:01:05,507 Speaker 22: of it and I was able to Yeah, pretty happy 1283 01:01:05,467 --> 01:01:06,027 Speaker 22: with how I was kicking. 1284 01:01:06,147 --> 01:01:09,347 Speaker 3: So yeah, pretty please in your first half try shit 1285 01:01:09,427 --> 01:01:11,587 Speaker 3: move or did you just saw something or you got 1286 01:01:11,587 --> 01:01:13,547 Speaker 3: a little little pass on the outside you run that 1287 01:01:13,587 --> 01:01:14,467 Speaker 3: channel really nicely? 1288 01:01:14,507 --> 01:01:17,587 Speaker 22: Ment, Yeah, No, it was I guess I set piece 1289 01:01:17,667 --> 01:01:21,427 Speaker 22: move and you know, credit to you know, coaches whoever 1290 01:01:21,507 --> 01:01:25,787 Speaker 22: organized our mudavan Bren I'm sure, but yeah, pretty happy 1291 01:01:25,787 --> 01:01:28,827 Speaker 22: to I guess that the homework that we do during 1292 01:01:28,867 --> 01:01:31,587 Speaker 22: the week to give ourselves opportunities to score and for 1293 01:01:31,747 --> 01:01:33,347 Speaker 22: it to you know, it was almost like a training tray. 1294 01:01:33,347 --> 01:01:34,987 Speaker 22: I couldn't believe it when when I looked up and 1295 01:01:34,987 --> 01:01:35,747 Speaker 22: there was none in front of me. 1296 01:01:35,827 --> 01:01:36,867 Speaker 5: So yeah, pretty please. 1297 01:01:37,107 --> 01:01:39,507 Speaker 3: And first test on this piece of grass one, you know, 1298 01:01:39,547 --> 01:01:42,827 Speaker 3: pretty well, another special moment for you, Iida Masaya. It's awesome. 1299 01:01:43,227 --> 01:01:45,587 Speaker 22: You know, it's great to have my family here, you know, 1300 01:01:45,667 --> 01:01:48,027 Speaker 22: my partner here as well. To see not many yellow 1301 01:01:48,027 --> 01:01:50,507 Speaker 22: seats because it was sold out. It was yeah, pretty 1302 01:01:50,507 --> 01:01:52,307 Speaker 22: cool and saying that I remember for a long time 1303 01:01:52,347 --> 01:01:52,667 Speaker 22: for sure. 1304 01:01:52,707 --> 01:01:53,587 Speaker 5: So yeah, really stoked. 1305 01:01:53,707 --> 01:01:55,507 Speaker 3: Great game, can Thanks for the chat. Yes, thanks one. 1306 01:01:55,587 --> 01:01:59,507 Speaker 3: Beth cam Roy guard After the game, a text from Chris. 1307 01:01:59,547 --> 01:02:02,427 Speaker 3: Great to see James O'Connor selected for the Wallabies. Yeah, 1308 01:02:02,427 --> 01:02:06,827 Speaker 3: I saw that. Have you seen the latest photo of 1309 01:02:06,907 --> 01:02:13,347 Speaker 3: James O'Connor. It's like he's been He's got stitches above 1310 01:02:13,387 --> 01:02:16,467 Speaker 3: his eye, a big sort of rock mark down his cheek. 1311 01:02:17,667 --> 01:02:19,587 Speaker 3: I don't know what's happened. I haven't done enough reading 1312 01:02:19,627 --> 01:02:21,827 Speaker 3: on this to find out, but I saw a picture 1313 01:02:21,827 --> 01:02:24,227 Speaker 3: of James O'Connor flash up on my social media feed 1314 01:02:24,307 --> 01:02:26,507 Speaker 3: last night. He looked like he's had his half of 1315 01:02:26,547 --> 01:02:29,747 Speaker 3: his face rucked off. I hope he's okay, but yeah, 1316 01:02:29,747 --> 01:02:31,907 Speaker 3: I'm delighted to see him there. I know they absolutely 1317 01:02:31,947 --> 01:02:34,107 Speaker 3: As I said to Adam Peacock yesterday, they love him 1318 01:02:34,107 --> 01:02:36,627 Speaker 3: in Crusaders Country, or did when he was there. Now 1319 01:02:36,747 --> 01:02:39,387 Speaker 3: I'm delighted to see him back in the Wallabies mix. 1320 01:02:41,387 --> 01:02:43,187 Speaker 3: What are we one twenty eight? Let's get a breakaway 1321 01:02:43,187 --> 01:02:44,987 Speaker 3: when we come back into the Black Fern's camp, we go. 1322 01:02:45,107 --> 01:02:47,827 Speaker 3: They named their World Cup squad next Friday, not this 1323 01:02:47,907 --> 01:02:50,547 Speaker 3: one coming, the one following, and then they'll be off 1324 01:02:50,547 --> 01:02:52,027 Speaker 3: to the World Cup. So is it all locked in? 1325 01:02:52,107 --> 01:02:53,907 Speaker 3: Have they got their players all sorted and how are 1326 01:02:53,907 --> 01:02:57,387 Speaker 3: they feeling after they went over Australia at Sky Stadium yesterday. 1327 01:02:57,427 --> 01:02:59,107 Speaker 3: They only led by ten to seven at half time 1328 01:02:59,307 --> 01:03:01,387 Speaker 3: and actually trailed for a large part of the first half. 1329 01:03:01,587 --> 01:03:03,387 Speaker 3: Got the job done though. Tony Christie is one of 1330 01:03:03,387 --> 01:03:05,667 Speaker 3: their assistant coaches. He's going to join us on weekend 1331 01:03:05,667 --> 01:03:07,347 Speaker 3: Sport when we come back one. 1332 01:03:07,427 --> 01:03:12,667 Speaker 1: Crutch Hold Engage Weekend Sports with Jason Pain and GJ. 1333 01:03:12,827 --> 01:03:16,147 Speaker 2: Gunner homes New Zealand's most trusted home. Milder News Talk 1334 01:03:16,187 --> 01:03:16,707 Speaker 2: to Bailey. 1335 01:03:17,227 --> 01:03:19,787 Speaker 3: One thirty one into the Black Fern shortly Australia all 1336 01:03:19,787 --> 01:03:23,787 Speaker 3: out in the Pink Ball Test in Kingston Sabina Park 1337 01:03:23,827 --> 01:03:26,267 Speaker 3: and Kingston. This is the third Test between the Westerndies 1338 01:03:26,267 --> 01:03:28,747 Speaker 3: in Australia. Australia won the toss, said well bat all 1339 01:03:28,747 --> 01:03:32,267 Speaker 3: out two twenty five. Top scorer Steve Smith forty eight, 1340 01:03:32,747 --> 01:03:36,187 Speaker 3: Cam Green got forty six. Not much else of substance 1341 01:03:36,227 --> 01:03:38,707 Speaker 3: as far as the West Indies bowler is concerned. Shama 1342 01:03:38,827 --> 01:03:40,947 Speaker 3: Joseph the best of them, four for thirty three, three 1343 01:03:40,987 --> 01:03:43,987 Speaker 3: wickets for Jaden Seals and three for Justin Greeves. So 1344 01:03:44,067 --> 01:03:46,267 Speaker 3: Australia all at two to two five. The Westerns have 1345 01:03:46,307 --> 01:03:49,067 Speaker 3: gone in and negotiated the first couple of overs five 1346 01:03:49,227 --> 01:03:52,507 Speaker 3: without loss. The Black Ferns will head to their Rugby 1347 01:03:52,587 --> 01:03:56,227 Speaker 3: World Cup honor high after beating Australia thirty seven twelve 1348 01:03:56,267 --> 01:03:57,387 Speaker 3: and Wellington yesterday. 1349 01:03:57,747 --> 01:04:00,067 Speaker 22: Tea Highs will put it into touch and they'll say 1350 01:04:00,107 --> 01:04:00,507 Speaker 22: that'll do. 1351 01:04:01,027 --> 01:04:04,747 Speaker 4: The Black Ferns Dominance thirty seven twelve they beat for 1352 01:04:04,827 --> 01:04:05,667 Speaker 4: Wollaroos in. 1353 01:04:05,787 --> 01:04:10,187 Speaker 3: Wellington, twenty ninth straight win over Australia for our New 1354 01:04:10,267 --> 01:04:12,587 Speaker 3: Zealand women's rugby team. They trailed though for much of 1355 01:04:12,587 --> 01:04:15,827 Speaker 3: the first half, led just ten to seven at halftime, 1356 01:04:16,067 --> 01:04:17,907 Speaker 3: before running away with the game in the second half. 1357 01:04:17,907 --> 01:04:21,507 Speaker 3: Birthday girl Porsche Woodman Wickliffe scored a hat trick of 1358 01:04:21,587 --> 01:04:26,027 Speaker 3: tries r DeMont, Sylvia Brunt, Ruby Towey and Georgia Miller, 1359 01:04:26,067 --> 01:04:30,067 Speaker 3: with an absolute stunner also dotting down in the second 1360 01:04:30,107 --> 01:04:33,267 Speaker 3: half Black Fern's attack. Coach Tony Christie is with us, Tony, 1361 01:04:33,307 --> 01:04:35,667 Speaker 3: thanks for your time. You'd be a fairly happy sort 1362 01:04:35,827 --> 01:04:37,707 Speaker 3: of an attack coach today, wouldn't you. 1363 01:04:38,107 --> 01:04:38,307 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1364 01:04:38,347 --> 01:04:39,947 Speaker 23: I think it was a bit of a game of 1365 01:04:39,987 --> 01:04:43,467 Speaker 23: two hubs with our attack. We didn't quite get our 1366 01:04:43,507 --> 01:04:46,267 Speaker 23: territory right in that first half and then also our breakdown. 1367 01:04:46,707 --> 01:04:48,827 Speaker 23: But what I was really happy with was how the 1368 01:04:48,867 --> 01:04:52,787 Speaker 23: girls responded at halftime to those two messages and once 1369 01:04:52,827 --> 01:04:54,987 Speaker 23: we tied it that up then we could play out 1370 01:04:54,987 --> 01:04:55,947 Speaker 23: our DNA. 1371 01:04:56,067 --> 01:05:00,187 Speaker 3: What was the substance of the halftime conversations with no 1372 01:05:00,347 --> 01:05:04,667 Speaker 3: raised voices, just clear concise instructions. 1373 01:05:04,227 --> 01:05:07,227 Speaker 23: Yeah, yep, this week was just really those key points, 1374 01:05:07,587 --> 01:05:09,587 Speaker 23: nice and calm. So I was really impressed with the 1375 01:05:09,627 --> 01:05:11,347 Speaker 23: girls with that. There was no panic in the room. 1376 01:05:11,827 --> 01:05:13,547 Speaker 23: They knew what they needed to be done, and then 1377 01:05:13,547 --> 01:05:14,667 Speaker 23: they went out and executed it. 1378 01:05:15,147 --> 01:05:17,267 Speaker 3: How do you assess then the second half performance? How 1379 01:05:17,267 --> 01:05:20,347 Speaker 3: pleased are you with the way they responded and came 1380 01:05:20,387 --> 01:05:23,147 Speaker 3: from as I say, just ten to seven ahead at 1381 01:05:23,147 --> 01:05:26,427 Speaker 3: the break to really win in convincing fashion. 1382 01:05:27,827 --> 01:05:29,467 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm really with that. 1383 01:05:29,547 --> 01:05:32,827 Speaker 23: I think it just reinforced the key aspects of our 1384 01:05:32,867 --> 01:05:34,067 Speaker 23: game that we need to get right. 1385 01:05:34,627 --> 01:05:36,307 Speaker 7: Because we know we can attack. 1386 01:05:36,867 --> 01:05:39,587 Speaker 23: We've got in our DNA the ability to play from 1387 01:05:39,627 --> 01:05:41,707 Speaker 23: side to side, our offload game. But if we don't 1388 01:05:41,707 --> 01:05:43,707 Speaker 23: get that breakdown right and we're not playing the right 1389 01:05:43,747 --> 01:05:46,387 Speaker 23: areas of the fields, then we put ourselves under pressure. 1390 01:05:46,987 --> 01:05:49,627 Speaker 3: You mentioned DNA a couple of times there. What is 1391 01:05:49,667 --> 01:05:51,787 Speaker 3: the Black Fern's DNA or the aspects of it. 1392 01:05:52,787 --> 01:05:56,987 Speaker 23: Yeah, we're a fat team. We like to play free 1393 01:05:57,067 --> 01:05:58,867 Speaker 23: and also for the colored is a real point of 1394 01:05:58,867 --> 01:05:59,707 Speaker 23: difference for us. 1395 01:05:59,907 --> 01:06:01,307 Speaker 7: So yeah, those key things. 1396 01:06:01,787 --> 01:06:05,787 Speaker 3: Hat trick for Porsche Woodman Wickcliffe on her birthday, how 1397 01:06:05,827 --> 01:06:08,987 Speaker 3: and teg Lou she to your side Yeah, she. 1398 01:06:08,947 --> 01:06:14,067 Speaker 23: Can finish canace. Yeah, really important both on the field 1399 01:06:14,067 --> 01:06:17,107 Speaker 23: and off the field. Obviously she's been there, done at all. 1400 01:06:17,827 --> 01:06:20,467 Speaker 23: So the confidence she gives something that younger members and 1401 01:06:20,507 --> 01:06:21,587 Speaker 23: her team's huge as well. 1402 01:06:22,267 --> 01:06:24,787 Speaker 3: And seven star Georgia Miller doesn't seem to have had 1403 01:06:24,787 --> 01:06:27,427 Speaker 3: too many issues transitioning into the fifteen A side game. 1404 01:06:28,107 --> 01:06:29,947 Speaker 3: How impressed have you been with her? 1405 01:06:30,947 --> 01:06:31,227 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1406 01:06:31,507 --> 01:06:32,307 Speaker 7: Absolute freak. 1407 01:06:33,467 --> 01:06:35,747 Speaker 23: I'd love to say, as the attack coach, her try 1408 01:06:35,867 --> 01:06:37,147 Speaker 23: was exactly character it up. 1409 01:06:38,067 --> 01:06:40,067 Speaker 7: But yeah, that's just all her. 1410 01:06:41,547 --> 01:06:43,387 Speaker 23: I'll tell her in person. I'll take the credit for it. 1411 01:06:43,507 --> 01:06:48,187 Speaker 23: But she's magnificent. And yeah, I think she's only just 1412 01:06:48,227 --> 01:06:49,787 Speaker 23: getting started, which is an exciting thing. 1413 01:06:49,907 --> 01:06:51,827 Speaker 3: That's exactly it. I was just going to say, she's 1414 01:06:51,867 --> 01:06:54,067 Speaker 3: only really at the beginning. So how do you make 1415 01:06:54,107 --> 01:06:58,027 Speaker 3: sure you harness her incredible ability in the most effective fashion? 1416 01:06:59,907 --> 01:07:02,747 Speaker 12: Yeah, well, I don't think it's about harnessing it. 1417 01:07:02,827 --> 01:07:04,827 Speaker 23: I think it's about providing her as many opportunities to 1418 01:07:04,827 --> 01:07:08,187 Speaker 23: be in the game as possible. Yeah, that's something we'll 1419 01:07:08,227 --> 01:07:11,267 Speaker 23: look into to the World Cup. But also balancing that 1420 01:07:11,307 --> 01:07:14,467 Speaker 23: with not overcooking here and making sure she still performs 1421 01:07:14,467 --> 01:07:17,067 Speaker 23: her core role as a seven How prepared. 1422 01:07:17,387 --> 01:07:18,747 Speaker 3: Do you feel for the World Cup? 1423 01:07:19,987 --> 01:07:22,787 Speaker 23: Yeah, I believe we've got everything in our squad. Our 1424 01:07:22,827 --> 01:07:28,187 Speaker 23: games really growing, particularly our territory game, so yeah. And 1425 01:07:28,227 --> 01:07:31,707 Speaker 23: our defense yesterday I thought was outstanding. Our ability to 1426 01:07:31,747 --> 01:07:34,747 Speaker 23: bring line speed and put the opposition under pressure. So yeah, 1427 01:07:34,787 --> 01:07:36,227 Speaker 23: all the ingredients are there. We've just got to put 1428 01:07:36,267 --> 01:07:37,027 Speaker 23: it together on the day. 1429 01:07:37,107 --> 01:07:38,867 Speaker 3: Would you like to have had another couple of games 1430 01:07:38,867 --> 01:07:39,707 Speaker 3: before the World Cup? 1431 01:07:41,267 --> 01:07:41,347 Speaker 9: Oh? 1432 01:07:41,387 --> 01:07:44,387 Speaker 23: I had an ideal world Yes, but we've also got 1433 01:07:44,467 --> 01:07:47,587 Speaker 23: a huge internal competition in our group, so you're playing 1434 01:07:47,627 --> 01:07:52,627 Speaker 23: against thirty two quality players each week and our internal stuff. 1435 01:07:52,667 --> 01:07:56,827 Speaker 23: So we've got some simulations that will hopefully provide that 1436 01:07:56,947 --> 01:07:59,187 Speaker 23: game like experience heading into World Cup. 1437 01:07:59,667 --> 01:08:03,067 Speaker 3: You announce your World Cup squad on Friday week. Have 1438 01:08:03,187 --> 01:08:04,507 Speaker 3: you settled on it yet? 1439 01:08:06,147 --> 01:08:06,707 Speaker 7: Very close? 1440 01:08:07,747 --> 01:08:11,067 Speaker 23: Holy, a tough one. You look at some of the 1441 01:08:11,147 --> 01:08:14,187 Speaker 23: quality matchups in our group. We said right from the 1442 01:08:14,227 --> 01:08:16,227 Speaker 23: start that will need forty plus to go and win 1443 01:08:16,307 --> 01:08:17,707 Speaker 23: this World Cup, and you would have seen over the 1444 01:08:17,787 --> 01:08:21,547 Speaker 23: last few weeks the small little injuries and niggles we've 1445 01:08:21,547 --> 01:08:23,747 Speaker 23: had and the quality of players that have come in. 1446 01:08:23,907 --> 01:08:25,707 Speaker 23: So yeah, it's going to be a tough one. 1447 01:08:25,947 --> 01:08:28,387 Speaker 3: When it comes down to a tough choice, and I'm 1448 01:08:28,427 --> 01:08:30,627 Speaker 3: sure there'll be three or four tough choices to be made, 1449 01:08:30,707 --> 01:08:32,307 Speaker 3: or maybe even more. But when it comes down to 1450 01:08:32,427 --> 01:08:36,267 Speaker 3: what does swing it in one player's favor over another. 1451 01:08:37,787 --> 01:08:42,427 Speaker 23: Oh, there's certainly ranger things so dependent on that position 1452 01:08:43,467 --> 01:08:46,387 Speaker 23: and also what's around them. So some position that might 1453 01:08:46,427 --> 01:08:49,827 Speaker 23: come down to experience, some positions that might come down 1454 01:08:49,907 --> 01:08:52,467 Speaker 23: to work great, we're looking for that, so some of 1455 01:08:52,507 --> 01:08:56,827 Speaker 23: our key factors in those positions. But yeah, it's a 1456 01:08:56,827 --> 01:08:58,067 Speaker 23: great debate around the table. 1457 01:08:58,267 --> 01:09:00,947 Speaker 3: I bet, I bet it is in some challenging conversations, 1458 01:09:00,987 --> 01:09:03,547 Speaker 3: no doubt as well. And just to finish Tony, the 1459 01:09:03,547 --> 01:09:06,187 Speaker 3: World Cup obviously World Cup holders and we remember the 1460 01:09:06,387 --> 01:09:09,747 Speaker 3: means of twenty twenty two. How confident do you feel 1461 01:09:09,787 --> 01:09:12,427 Speaker 3: that you can defend up in the Northern Hemisphere. 1462 01:09:13,267 --> 01:09:15,867 Speaker 23: Yeah, we've got a really nice internal confidence in our group. 1463 01:09:16,227 --> 01:09:19,067 Speaker 23: We're really clear on our game and we know the 1464 01:09:19,147 --> 01:09:21,907 Speaker 23: key factors to ensure we can go out and put 1465 01:09:21,987 --> 01:09:22,587 Speaker 23: a performance. 1466 01:09:22,627 --> 01:09:25,747 Speaker 12: So yeah, no excuses, We've got the players. 1467 01:09:26,827 --> 01:09:27,747 Speaker 8: Now we just go and do it. 1468 01:09:28,067 --> 01:09:30,347 Speaker 3: Well done yesterday mate, all the best for the next 1469 01:09:30,387 --> 01:09:33,107 Speaker 3: few weeks and on towards the World Cup. Thanks Thanks Tony, 1470 01:09:33,147 --> 01:09:36,347 Speaker 3: Tony Christy Black Ferns attack coach. Yeah, so the team 1471 01:09:36,467 --> 01:09:38,627 Speaker 3: is named or the squad for the World Cup is named, 1472 01:09:38,627 --> 01:09:41,147 Speaker 3: on Friday week and then off they'll go, the Black 1473 01:09:41,187 --> 01:09:45,427 Speaker 3: Ferns to the World Cup. Their pool games are against Spain, 1474 01:09:46,187 --> 01:09:51,147 Speaker 3: Japan and Ireland, and then presuming they negotiate those okay, 1475 01:09:51,187 --> 01:09:53,547 Speaker 3: which you'd have to assume that they would into the 1476 01:09:53,627 --> 01:09:57,787 Speaker 3: knockout rounds, they'll go. Latest odds. Incidentally, for the Women's 1477 01:09:57,827 --> 01:10:01,027 Speaker 3: Rugby World Cup, England are clear favorites and that's absolutely 1478 01:10:01,067 --> 01:10:05,387 Speaker 3: no surprise. They're a dollar fifty at our tab. New 1479 01:10:05,467 --> 01:10:10,507 Speaker 3: Zealand second three dollars fifty, then Canada, France, Ireland, Australia, 1480 01:10:10,547 --> 01:10:15,107 Speaker 3: Scotland and Italy. So look, we may well be on 1481 01:10:15,187 --> 01:10:17,627 Speaker 3: course for a repeat of the last Women's Rugby World 1482 01:10:17,627 --> 01:10:19,947 Speaker 3: Cup final with England up against New Zealand. It is 1483 01:10:19,947 --> 01:10:23,147 Speaker 3: going to take a mighty effort to beat England, who 1484 01:10:23,147 --> 01:10:26,827 Speaker 3: have been I don't know that they've been beaten since 1485 01:10:26,867 --> 01:10:28,867 Speaker 3: that World Cup. If they have, it hasn't been very 1486 01:10:28,907 --> 01:10:31,867 Speaker 3: often on home soil. Going to be a heck of 1487 01:10:31,867 --> 01:10:35,067 Speaker 3: a task for our women, but well, they go in 1488 01:10:35,107 --> 01:10:37,587 Speaker 3: with a bit of confidence. Georgia Miller. I I've seen 1489 01:10:37,627 --> 01:10:39,667 Speaker 3: a lot of social media around her as well, coming 1490 01:10:39,667 --> 01:10:42,547 Speaker 3: across from sevens. We know how effective she was as 1491 01:10:42,587 --> 01:10:45,547 Speaker 3: a sevens player. This trice she scored yesterday, it just, 1492 01:10:47,467 --> 01:10:51,627 Speaker 3: you know, I can't really describe it. Just have a 1493 01:10:51,667 --> 01:10:53,987 Speaker 3: look at it, Georgia Miller, just google it. Her name's 1494 01:10:53,987 --> 01:10:56,587 Speaker 3: spelt j O r JA. By the way, if you 1495 01:10:56,627 --> 01:10:58,547 Speaker 3: want to check out this try by one of the 1496 01:10:58,627 --> 01:11:02,347 Speaker 3: rising stars of New Zealand rugby. Twenty one away from 1497 01:11:02,467 --> 01:11:06,347 Speaker 3: to the Warriors women incidentally are underway against the Paramatta Eels, 1498 01:11:06,467 --> 01:11:11,827 Speaker 3: their first home game since twenty nineteen ten to two 1499 01:11:11,867 --> 01:11:13,787 Speaker 3: rather so about eleven months away from Get Underweight. We'll 1500 01:11:13,827 --> 01:11:15,667 Speaker 3: keep eyes on that one at Go Media Stadium for 1501 01:11:15,787 --> 01:11:17,427 Speaker 3: you two. We'll take a break and come back and 1502 01:11:17,507 --> 01:11:20,947 Speaker 3: check in with James mcconey as usual on a Sunday. 1503 01:11:21,987 --> 01:11:24,867 Speaker 1: You be the TMO have your say on eight hundred 1504 01:11:24,867 --> 01:11:28,747 Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Hym and GJ. 1505 01:11:28,907 --> 01:11:32,347 Speaker 2: Guvnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder News Talks. 1506 01:11:32,347 --> 01:11:36,347 Speaker 3: They'd be seventeen away from two Sunday afternoons we chat 1507 01:11:36,387 --> 01:11:39,587 Speaker 3: with James mcconey. Hello mate, get a piney. 1508 01:11:39,627 --> 01:11:41,307 Speaker 2: How's it going very good? 1509 01:11:41,347 --> 01:11:43,947 Speaker 3: Did you enjoy watching two port Vie in the last 1510 01:11:43,987 --> 01:11:47,227 Speaker 3: two Test matches playing the sixth jersey score tries in 1511 01:11:47,347 --> 01:11:50,427 Speaker 3: both give it the pookana? Is he the answer moving 1512 01:11:50,427 --> 01:11:51,467 Speaker 3: forward in that jersey? 1513 01:11:52,187 --> 01:11:54,547 Speaker 8: Well, he feels like the answer, but it also means 1514 01:11:54,627 --> 01:11:57,787 Speaker 8: it's a big shift, isn't it from where the all 1515 01:11:57,787 --> 01:12:00,787 Speaker 8: Blacks were heading with their loose forwards? Because you know, 1516 01:12:00,947 --> 01:12:03,507 Speaker 8: like I said last week, he's not a power number 1517 01:12:03,547 --> 01:12:07,027 Speaker 8: six like a Jerome Kno or even Aliam's. But the 1518 01:12:07,067 --> 01:12:10,827 Speaker 8: thing is he gives you that extra bit of work. 1519 01:12:10,867 --> 01:12:14,867 Speaker 8: Create he gives you, you know, elite mobility, and he's 1520 01:12:14,907 --> 01:12:17,107 Speaker 8: just got an engine that won't quit. So you notice 1521 01:12:17,107 --> 01:12:20,067 Speaker 8: his support game now that he's been freed up from Locke, 1522 01:12:20,147 --> 01:12:24,427 Speaker 8: is just looking absolutely elite. So yes, two bo Bio 1523 01:12:24,427 --> 01:12:27,827 Speaker 8: at six I think is a really successful experiment, and 1524 01:12:28,707 --> 01:12:31,267 Speaker 8: you know it's it's test Rugby agrees with him. 1525 01:12:31,307 --> 01:12:32,627 Speaker 7: It's just one of those guys. You know. 1526 01:12:32,907 --> 01:12:37,027 Speaker 8: It's a bit like when Liam Squire made the step up. 1527 01:12:37,107 --> 01:12:38,667 Speaker 8: He looked at home straight away, didn't he? 1528 01:12:39,267 --> 01:12:42,187 Speaker 3: Yep, he did. Neither are some players who just are ready, 1529 01:12:42,227 --> 01:12:44,467 Speaker 3: aren't they? They're just ready Wallace to tt another one 1530 01:12:44,547 --> 01:12:46,907 Speaker 3: last year. What else caught your eye last night? 1531 01:12:48,107 --> 01:12:51,147 Speaker 8: Well, to start with, I couldn't actually take this test 1532 01:12:51,187 --> 01:12:55,707 Speaker 8: that seriously piney because France fois by four points last weekend. 1533 01:12:55,747 --> 01:12:59,747 Speaker 8: But Gualtier made so many changes even David Bowie would 1534 01:12:59,747 --> 01:13:00,627 Speaker 8: struggle to keep up. 1535 01:13:00,747 --> 01:13:01,867 Speaker 7: I mean he. 1536 01:13:01,907 --> 01:13:06,827 Speaker 8: Made he made ten to Jane Jazz, but it was 1537 01:13:06,907 --> 01:13:10,667 Speaker 8: really actually twelve because after Sogby, who was at fullback 1538 01:13:10,707 --> 01:13:13,187 Speaker 8: in the first test, and Gayeton, who was at center, 1539 01:13:13,627 --> 01:13:15,947 Speaker 8: moved to the wings. So yeah, it's a great win 1540 01:13:15,987 --> 01:13:18,227 Speaker 8: by the All Blacks. I thought they were clinical, but 1541 01:13:18,307 --> 01:13:21,147 Speaker 8: clearly Gualtier doesn't care about winning the series, because you 1542 01:13:21,187 --> 01:13:24,587 Speaker 8: would not do that after such a great showing from 1543 01:13:24,707 --> 01:13:26,707 Speaker 8: the team in the first test. I don't know, it. 1544 01:13:26,667 --> 01:13:29,187 Speaker 3: Didn't it didn't reward it, did it. It didn't reward 1545 01:13:29,227 --> 01:13:30,387 Speaker 3: performance at all. 1546 01:13:31,267 --> 01:13:34,067 Speaker 8: Yeah, they were so good in that first test. I 1547 01:13:34,147 --> 01:13:37,547 Speaker 8: just went, this is actually really cool for Gualtier. He's 1548 01:13:37,627 --> 01:13:41,667 Speaker 8: uncovered some gems after Sogby looks world class at fallback 1549 01:13:42,107 --> 01:13:43,787 Speaker 8: and I mean you saw he had a couple of 1550 01:13:43,787 --> 01:13:47,107 Speaker 8: flashes on the wing, but nothing great last night, So 1551 01:13:47,187 --> 01:13:50,827 Speaker 8: I just thought he's clearly just doing his own thing. 1552 01:13:50,987 --> 01:13:53,267 Speaker 8: Mixing and matching. There's not the same pressure on the 1553 01:13:53,307 --> 01:13:55,747 Speaker 8: fred rugby coach as there is of the All Blacks 1554 01:13:55,747 --> 01:13:59,387 Speaker 8: coach to win, so he can do whatever he wants 1555 01:13:59,427 --> 01:14:03,107 Speaker 8: and I don't doubt there'll be a correction this weekend 1556 01:14:03,307 --> 01:14:06,067 Speaker 8: in Hamilton, so I think coming away with a win 1557 01:14:06,067 --> 01:14:08,627 Speaker 8: would still be a feather in his cap, but it's 1558 01:14:08,667 --> 01:14:10,587 Speaker 8: not the same pressure and I didn't even feel that 1559 01:14:10,667 --> 01:14:13,827 Speaker 8: last night because it was a bit disjointed. Although we 1560 01:14:13,907 --> 01:14:19,587 Speaker 8: can say Babe in Holland, yes, massive asset and what 1561 01:14:21,107 --> 01:14:23,987 Speaker 8: a great first two tests. You probably won't you go 1562 01:14:24,027 --> 01:14:26,267 Speaker 8: a long way to find a better start to All 1563 01:14:26,307 --> 01:14:30,187 Speaker 8: Black's career. And then Camroygarde just owning things at half back. 1564 01:14:30,427 --> 01:14:33,307 Speaker 8: He looks so elite now that you know, there's no 1565 01:14:33,347 --> 01:14:36,427 Speaker 8: doubt he is the starting nine. Moving moving forward. 1566 01:14:36,227 --> 01:14:39,307 Speaker 3: For a while indeed, or let's move to other matters. 1567 01:14:40,147 --> 01:14:44,907 Speaker 3: The Carlos Alcarez Jannick Sinner rivalry has its latest chapter 1568 01:14:44,987 --> 01:14:48,067 Speaker 3: tonight at Wimbledon. Remember these guys had a five and 1569 01:14:48,067 --> 01:14:50,627 Speaker 3: a half hour final at Roland Garrol's not that long ago. 1570 01:14:51,227 --> 01:14:53,827 Speaker 3: I don't think Sinner's ever won Wimbledon. I don't think 1571 01:14:53,827 --> 01:14:55,867 Speaker 3: he's ever made the final. Alcarez has won the last 1572 01:14:55,907 --> 01:14:57,867 Speaker 3: two A big good game though, shouldn't it. 1573 01:14:58,787 --> 01:15:01,147 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm sort of picking Sinner to win this. I 1574 01:15:01,227 --> 01:15:05,187 Speaker 8: just feel like he's you know, they're both heading towards 1575 01:15:05,187 --> 01:15:07,147 Speaker 8: the peak of their powers. But the way that he 1576 01:15:07,787 --> 01:15:12,427 Speaker 8: got rid of Djokovic in the semi finals, this is Sinner. 1577 01:15:13,747 --> 01:15:17,427 Speaker 8: He's sort of built really like a grass court player 1578 01:15:17,947 --> 01:15:21,387 Speaker 8: more than ol Koraz, just a bit longer and you know, 1579 01:15:21,507 --> 01:15:25,267 Speaker 8: covers the court that way. He I mean, I haven't 1580 01:15:25,307 --> 01:15:27,587 Speaker 8: seen enough of his volley game to say, Okay, he's 1581 01:15:27,587 --> 01:15:30,787 Speaker 8: definitely got what it takes to put away those easy points. 1582 01:15:30,867 --> 01:15:34,627 Speaker 8: But Sinner is, you know, he's on the rise. I 1583 01:15:34,627 --> 01:15:39,147 Speaker 8: can see why the tennis bosses didn't give him a 1584 01:15:39,187 --> 01:15:43,227 Speaker 8: tough drugs band because tennis needs him. You know, Tennis 1585 01:15:43,227 --> 01:15:47,267 Speaker 8: needs Sinners more than they need Saints, and so that's 1586 01:15:47,307 --> 01:15:50,907 Speaker 8: why he's there. But al Karez, that's that's a great 1587 01:15:50,987 --> 01:15:54,067 Speaker 8: rivalry already. It just needs probably one or two more. 1588 01:15:54,107 --> 01:15:56,027 Speaker 8: You know's area is okay, but you know, maybe a 1589 01:15:56,027 --> 01:15:58,787 Speaker 8: couple more so they can get another big four going. 1590 01:15:58,907 --> 01:16:00,547 Speaker 8: But did you see the women's final pinting? 1591 01:16:00,907 --> 01:16:03,107 Speaker 3: Yeah, double bagel? How would you go. 1592 01:16:04,107 --> 01:16:08,387 Speaker 8: Honestly, fifty seven minutes, you pay your tickets, you have 1593 01:16:08,507 --> 01:16:11,507 Speaker 8: your strawberries and cream, they're barely finished their pins and 1594 01:16:11,547 --> 01:16:16,787 Speaker 8: you're out the door. That is brutal. Look, I just think, 1595 01:16:17,627 --> 01:16:20,387 Speaker 8: I mean, Suberlenka will be kicking yourself for losing the 1596 01:16:20,387 --> 01:16:23,227 Speaker 8: semi final. But I think that her temperament is costing 1597 01:16:23,307 --> 01:16:27,987 Speaker 8: her what should be dominance right now. But Donald's Spheertek, 1598 01:16:28,547 --> 01:16:31,547 Speaker 8: who's just a champion player, improves it again. 1599 01:16:32,107 --> 01:16:36,427 Speaker 3: Yeah, Amanda Anna Samova the unfortunate recipient of the six love, 1600 01:16:36,507 --> 01:16:38,587 Speaker 3: six love and the in the women's final. We'll look 1601 01:16:38,627 --> 01:16:41,187 Speaker 3: forward to the men's tonight. Hey, the Warriors play West 1602 01:16:41,187 --> 01:16:43,667 Speaker 3: Tigers this afternoon. This feels like quite an important match 1603 01:16:43,707 --> 01:16:45,507 Speaker 3: to me off the back of well the buye, but 1604 01:16:45,587 --> 01:16:47,027 Speaker 3: then two defeats before that. 1605 01:16:48,107 --> 01:16:51,187 Speaker 8: Yeah, and you know it's it's a banana skin game. 1606 01:16:51,347 --> 01:16:54,107 Speaker 8: It's a real kind of like because the Tigers are 1607 01:16:54,147 --> 01:16:56,267 Speaker 8: a batletting team and not on the table, you'd say 1608 01:16:56,747 --> 01:16:59,587 Speaker 8: we should beat them all all day, every single week. 1609 01:16:59,707 --> 01:17:03,507 Speaker 8: But the really reality is is that you know, Benji 1610 01:17:03,547 --> 01:17:05,627 Speaker 8: will have them motivated. They've got you know, I think 1611 01:17:05,667 --> 01:17:08,427 Speaker 8: Corrousale's bad today. Have you seen the team Piney. I 1612 01:17:08,427 --> 01:17:12,027 Speaker 8: don't know, but that makes that makes a big difference 1613 01:17:12,067 --> 01:17:14,587 Speaker 8: to them, and so I just think we need to 1614 01:17:14,587 --> 01:17:17,387 Speaker 8: be quite patient with what with having a new half 1615 01:17:17,387 --> 01:17:20,507 Speaker 8: back there with Tanner Boyd and and just you know, 1616 01:17:20,627 --> 01:17:23,027 Speaker 8: give him a chance. But look, it's it's not too 1617 01:17:23,107 --> 01:17:27,347 Speaker 8: bad conditions here. So look, I think there's there's every 1618 01:17:27,427 --> 01:17:29,427 Speaker 8: chance the Warriors can get back on track. It's been 1619 01:17:29,427 --> 01:17:32,867 Speaker 8: an awkward a few by weeks with two lasses and 1620 01:17:33,467 --> 01:17:36,547 Speaker 8: two buyers. It's just Origin just gets in the way. 1621 01:17:36,587 --> 01:17:39,947 Speaker 8: He doesn't it. But it's just the way the league 1622 01:17:39,987 --> 01:17:43,147 Speaker 8: is structured. And so now hopefully we can get some 1623 01:17:43,147 --> 01:17:44,707 Speaker 8: some confidence back in the team. 1624 01:17:44,907 --> 01:17:47,827 Speaker 3: Upper side. Corus is back for the West Tigers, so 1625 01:17:47,907 --> 01:17:49,987 Speaker 3: you'll see him out on go Meetia this evening or 1626 01:17:50,067 --> 01:17:52,627 Speaker 3: this afternoon when it comes to the evening. I'm looking 1627 01:17:52,627 --> 01:17:55,107 Speaker 3: forward to seeing how Tanner boy goes. I haven't ever 1628 01:17:55,107 --> 01:17:57,187 Speaker 3: seen him play, but I want to see him play today. 1629 01:17:57,827 --> 01:17:58,507 Speaker 7: Yeah exactly. 1630 01:17:58,547 --> 01:18:01,267 Speaker 8: I mean, Tanner Boyd is the one who really pushes 1631 01:18:01,307 --> 01:18:03,947 Speaker 8: them so hard that I think even if you ask 1632 01:18:04,027 --> 01:18:06,827 Speaker 8: where he he'd say that the head up to pick 1633 01:18:06,867 --> 01:18:09,067 Speaker 8: the me just just sent them in a space. With 1634 01:18:09,547 --> 01:18:12,467 Speaker 8: Luke Metcalf playing that well, so the reason why they 1635 01:18:12,507 --> 01:18:14,707 Speaker 8: signed them is they wanted him to be their number seven, 1636 01:18:14,787 --> 01:18:18,267 Speaker 8: but I think it's Chanelle Harris Devita. His emergence as 1637 01:18:18,307 --> 01:18:21,427 Speaker 8: a as a force again has pretty much changed all 1638 01:18:21,467 --> 01:18:23,947 Speaker 8: their plans because Tanner Boyd when they signed him from 1639 01:18:23,947 --> 01:18:26,747 Speaker 8: Gold Coast last year, was going to be the number seven. 1640 01:18:27,947 --> 01:18:29,627 Speaker 3: Hey, the black Caps are going to be playing shortly 1641 01:18:29,667 --> 01:18:33,587 Speaker 3: as well. They're over in Zimbabwe, aren't there. No, Yeah, Zimbabwe. 1642 01:18:33,667 --> 01:18:37,547 Speaker 3: They are for this TRIST series again Zimbabwe and South Africa. 1643 01:18:38,467 --> 01:18:40,387 Speaker 3: These games are eleven o'clock at night, which is a 1644 01:18:40,427 --> 01:18:42,987 Speaker 3: little bit unfriendly in terms of viewing them, but there's 1645 01:18:42,987 --> 01:18:44,467 Speaker 3: a couple of new faces to look out for. 1646 01:18:45,387 --> 01:18:45,947 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's the. 1647 01:18:45,907 --> 01:18:49,587 Speaker 8: Thing that's kind of interesting, that Zimbabwe series. And who 1648 01:18:49,667 --> 01:18:52,587 Speaker 8: sang the song Zimbabwe? Was it Tony Child's I think. 1649 01:18:52,947 --> 01:18:55,467 Speaker 3: I don't know that song. That's about the first Niche reference, 1650 01:18:55,547 --> 01:18:57,427 Speaker 3: the first Niche reference you've given me that I haven't 1651 01:18:57,467 --> 01:19:00,467 Speaker 3: picked up on. I'll check, yeah, but keep talking. 1652 01:19:00,787 --> 01:19:02,867 Speaker 8: And it's Tony Child to think, you know, stop your 1653 01:19:02,907 --> 01:19:05,667 Speaker 8: fussing was another big song as well. But yes, she 1654 01:19:05,747 --> 01:19:07,907 Speaker 8: definitely had a goods and bubble if you can find it, 1655 01:19:07,947 --> 01:19:11,547 Speaker 8: and you'll be a legend if you can. But look, yeah, 1656 01:19:11,707 --> 01:19:14,627 Speaker 8: the interesting thing is Michael Bracewell and Kin Williams are 1657 01:19:14,627 --> 01:19:18,267 Speaker 8: not playing in the Tests. That's just I think they've 1658 01:19:18,307 --> 01:19:21,707 Speaker 8: got Well Cane's on a special deal where he can 1659 01:19:21,787 --> 01:19:24,227 Speaker 8: just pick and choose, and fair enough, he's got to 1660 01:19:24,267 --> 01:19:26,827 Speaker 8: that point. And Michael Bracewell's been allowed to go and 1661 01:19:26,867 --> 01:19:29,587 Speaker 8: play in the hundred over in England. But it does 1662 01:19:29,627 --> 01:19:32,627 Speaker 8: say to me that we are devaluing Test matches quite 1663 01:19:32,627 --> 01:19:35,627 Speaker 8: a lot. And okay, it's only Zimbabwe, but if you 1664 01:19:35,707 --> 01:19:39,187 Speaker 8: think that it is the parnacle of the sport, we 1665 01:19:39,267 --> 01:19:44,867 Speaker 8: should be somehow prioritizing it or pushing for a better schedule. 1666 01:19:44,947 --> 01:19:46,987 Speaker 8: So it's a terrible drawer. If you're a Test match 1667 01:19:47,027 --> 01:19:50,027 Speaker 8: cricketer this year, you're just pretty much twiddling your thumbs. 1668 01:19:50,027 --> 01:19:54,187 Speaker 8: But there is because Kyle Jamieson is his partner's expecting 1669 01:19:54,187 --> 01:19:54,907 Speaker 8: their first baby. 1670 01:19:54,947 --> 01:19:55,347 Speaker 7: He's out. 1671 01:19:55,347 --> 01:19:58,547 Speaker 8: And there's a young guy called Matt Fisher, a young 1672 01:19:58,587 --> 01:20:01,427 Speaker 8: fast bowler from the Northern from Northern districts has come 1673 01:20:01,467 --> 01:20:04,987 Speaker 8: in Whitkato boy. I think his dad's a lawyer in 1674 01:20:05,107 --> 01:20:09,627 Speaker 8: talkot or so just yeah, he's he's come through from 1675 01:20:09,627 --> 01:20:11,627 Speaker 8: the grass roots I love it. 1676 01:20:11,627 --> 01:20:13,987 Speaker 3: I think he's quite quick. I think they like how 1677 01:20:14,067 --> 01:20:16,067 Speaker 3: you know, you know you guys come in there. So 1678 01:20:16,267 --> 01:20:18,067 Speaker 3: this this bloke quite quick. I think he's one of 1679 01:20:18,107 --> 01:20:20,787 Speaker 3: the quicker ones going around domestic cricket. Matt Fisher looking 1680 01:20:20,787 --> 01:20:23,347 Speaker 3: forward to seeing how quick he actually is exactly. 1681 01:20:23,387 --> 01:20:25,907 Speaker 8: Talkador is one of the greatest sporting cowns in history. 1682 01:20:25,907 --> 01:20:28,187 Speaker 8: I think you can trace a lot of like legends 1683 01:20:28,187 --> 01:20:30,187 Speaker 8: here who you don't even realize it from Talkador, like 1684 01:20:30,267 --> 01:20:34,547 Speaker 8: Bernie Fraser, Marie tu Tier, Kevin Berlamu Walton Little. You know. 1685 01:20:34,707 --> 01:20:37,547 Speaker 8: The list goes on, obviously, the ones like Kwake Cooper, 1686 01:20:37,667 --> 01:20:41,947 Speaker 8: Richard Carhowey and Joey Marnho. But is there been a cricketer. 1687 01:20:42,227 --> 01:20:44,907 Speaker 8: Is Matt Fisher going to be Talko or his first 1688 01:20:46,027 --> 01:20:47,787 Speaker 8: black Cat? We'll wait and see. I mean, I haven't 1689 01:20:47,827 --> 01:20:49,947 Speaker 8: done the research for you just today, but I'm just 1690 01:20:49,947 --> 01:20:52,387 Speaker 8: sort of riffing here, Piney good on Toko. 1691 01:20:52,227 --> 01:20:54,907 Speaker 3: Or good on talk I found Zimbabwe. I'll play a 1692 01:20:54,947 --> 01:20:57,307 Speaker 3: couple of a couple of bars to take this out 1693 01:20:57,307 --> 01:20:57,787 Speaker 3: with yellow. 1694 01:20:57,947 --> 01:20:58,267 Speaker 10: Why not? 1695 01:20:58,787 --> 01:21:00,667 Speaker 3: Here it is from Tony Chiles. Hey, we'll see, We'll 1696 01:21:00,667 --> 01:21:01,427 Speaker 3: see you next Sunday. 1697 01:21:02,387 --> 01:21:04,707 Speaker 8: Yes, sounds good. Poney, look forward. 1698 01:21:04,547 --> 01:21:08,027 Speaker 3: To it, mate, James mcconey, Tony childs en Zimbabwe. Although 1699 01:21:08,027 --> 01:21:13,867 Speaker 3: this feels like it's got a very long intro. Yeah, 1700 01:21:13,867 --> 01:21:16,627 Speaker 3: on board with that already, board with that song already 1701 01:21:16,747 --> 01:21:19,947 Speaker 3: it's certainly not stop your fussing by Tony Charles. Is 1702 01:21:19,987 --> 01:21:22,187 Speaker 3: it seven and a half to two news Talkship. 1703 01:21:22,667 --> 01:21:26,307 Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world 1704 01:21:26,507 --> 01:21:29,827 Speaker 1: weekends for it with Jason Pine they call undred and 1705 01:21:29,867 --> 01:21:32,227 Speaker 1: eighty and eighty news talksbe. 1706 01:21:32,387 --> 01:21:34,467 Speaker 3: Four to two, METHUSI is Ponty sad you only played 1707 01:21:34,467 --> 01:21:37,307 Speaker 3: two seconds of Zimbabwe. It's a banging tune, all right, Matthew, 1708 01:21:37,787 --> 01:21:40,547 Speaker 3: I'll lift it going, so maybe let them prove. 1709 01:21:42,867 --> 01:21:43,427 Speaker 9: She all. 1710 01:21:45,347 --> 01:21:47,827 Speaker 3: She has got a great voice, Tony Charles, I'll leave 1711 01:21:47,867 --> 01:21:51,507 Speaker 3: it just playing underneath Shelle. As we head towards the 1712 01:21:51,547 --> 01:21:54,947 Speaker 3: two o'clock news after two into the Black Sox camp, 1713 01:21:55,027 --> 01:21:58,987 Speaker 3: we go they could extend their record as the team 1714 01:21:58,987 --> 01:22:02,067 Speaker 3: that's won the most World Cups seven in their history. 1715 01:22:02,067 --> 01:22:06,027 Speaker 3: But the last one was twenty seventeen. They haven't meddled 1716 01:22:06,027 --> 01:22:09,467 Speaker 3: it of the last two. Might that change Over the 1717 01:22:09,547 --> 01:22:11,587 Speaker 3: next couple of days. We'll go inside the Black Sox 1718 01:22:11,627 --> 01:22:14,267 Speaker 3: camp ahead of a big game against Japan this afternoon. 1719 01:22:14,507 --> 01:22:19,147 Speaker 3: Jerome and Imaki is with us Craig Gabriel from Wimbledon, 1720 01:22:19,187 --> 01:22:22,507 Speaker 3: wrapping up that very one sided women's final and looking 1721 01:22:22,547 --> 01:22:26,147 Speaker 3: ahead to the men's Sinner of the Alcoraz and our 1722 01:22:26,187 --> 01:22:29,267 Speaker 3: coaching guru Wayne Goldsmith on what he calls the biggest 1723 01:22:29,507 --> 01:22:36,587 Speaker 3: myth in children's sport, and that is that parents are enemies. 1724 01:22:38,427 --> 01:22:39,867 Speaker 3: He doesn't believe a word of it and he will 1725 01:22:39,907 --> 01:22:54,147 Speaker 3: tell you why. News next to two. 1726 01:22:48,107 --> 01:22:51,027 Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues 1727 01:22:51,107 --> 01:22:54,947 Speaker 1: on and after fields. It's all on weekends Forward with 1728 01:22:55,187 --> 01:22:58,067 Speaker 1: Jason Vaine on your home of Sport. 1729 01:22:58,987 --> 01:22:59,627 Speaker 2: In New York. 1730 01:23:01,267 --> 01:23:03,907 Speaker 3: Hello there, and welcome in or welcome back, as the 1731 01:23:04,027 --> 01:23:06,147 Speaker 3: case may be. This is Weekend Sport on News Talk 1732 01:23:06,147 --> 01:23:10,107 Speaker 3: to Beat seven past two. I'm Jason Pine with Andy 1733 01:23:10,187 --> 01:23:13,227 Speaker 3: McDonnell alongside. We're here till three. Then Tim beverages in 1734 01:23:13,267 --> 01:23:15,787 Speaker 3: the chair for the Weekend Collective, so we can put 1735 01:23:15,787 --> 01:23:17,747 Speaker 3: a bit of a cap on the weekend. Over the 1736 01:23:17,747 --> 01:23:21,867 Speaker 3: next hour or so, we've got some softball for you. Shortly. 1737 01:23:22,467 --> 01:23:24,507 Speaker 3: The World Cups on in Canada. This is the Men's 1738 01:23:24,547 --> 01:23:27,187 Speaker 3: World Cup. Our black socks are there trying to win 1739 01:23:27,267 --> 01:23:30,547 Speaker 3: their first World Cup since twenty seventeen. They went a 1740 01:23:30,587 --> 01:23:33,187 Speaker 3: long way towards doing that yesterday with victory over the 1741 01:23:33,267 --> 01:23:36,067 Speaker 3: US from four to two down and the final inning 1742 01:23:36,907 --> 01:23:40,027 Speaker 3: to a five to four win thanks to a mighty 1743 01:23:40,067 --> 01:23:43,787 Speaker 3: piece of softball from Jerome on Aimaki. He's standing by 1744 01:23:43,827 --> 01:23:46,467 Speaker 3: a chat to us shortly. Craig Gabriel is at Wimbledon 1745 01:23:47,067 --> 01:23:50,627 Speaker 3: reviewing a very one sided women's final, previewing what will 1746 01:23:50,667 --> 01:23:54,867 Speaker 3: hopefully be another epic men's final tonight. Ciner the Alcaaz 1747 01:23:55,307 --> 01:23:58,387 Speaker 3: and Wayne Gold's with our coaching Guru in this regular slot, 1748 01:23:58,427 --> 01:24:01,787 Speaker 3: talking today about why parents are not the enemy when 1749 01:24:01,787 --> 01:24:05,027 Speaker 3: it comes to kids' sport. OH one hundred and eighty 1750 01:24:05,027 --> 01:24:07,347 Speaker 3: ten eighties and number is always ninet two nine to 1751 01:24:07,347 --> 01:24:09,427 Speaker 3: two one text. We'll keep eyes on live sport too, 1752 01:24:09,787 --> 01:24:12,867 Speaker 3: as you heard Adam say in the Sports News. The 1753 01:24:12,907 --> 01:24:15,787 Speaker 3: Warriors women out to an early lead against the Paramatta 1754 01:24:15,787 --> 01:24:18,987 Speaker 3: Eels at go Media eight to mizil day lead after 1755 01:24:20,227 --> 01:24:23,707 Speaker 3: sixteen minutes. We'll keep eyes on that, as we will 1756 01:24:23,707 --> 01:24:28,787 Speaker 3: on the Test cricket from Kingston, where Australia have been 1757 01:24:28,867 --> 01:24:31,187 Speaker 3: bowled out for two hundred and twenty five after winning 1758 01:24:31,187 --> 01:24:34,907 Speaker 3: the toss and electing to bat first stumps. Now actually 1759 01:24:34,947 --> 01:24:37,707 Speaker 3: on day one this is a pink ball Test. The 1760 01:24:37,747 --> 01:24:40,467 Speaker 3: West Indies have lost a wicket in the nine overs 1761 01:24:40,467 --> 01:24:42,787 Speaker 3: available to them. At the end of the day there's 1762 01:24:42,827 --> 01:24:45,827 Speaker 3: sixteen for one in reply to Australia's two hundred and 1763 01:24:45,947 --> 01:24:49,587 Speaker 3: twenty five all out coming up nine past two. So, 1764 01:24:49,707 --> 01:24:52,227 Speaker 3: as we always do at around about this time on 1765 01:24:52,307 --> 01:24:54,387 Speaker 3: weekend sport, we like to get you up to date, 1766 01:24:54,507 --> 01:24:59,147 Speaker 3: a fresh look at the latest sporting action over the 1767 01:24:59,187 --> 01:25:02,787 Speaker 3: last twenty four hours or so. Starting with motorsport and 1768 01:25:02,787 --> 01:25:08,267 Speaker 3: another podium for Shane van Gisbergen Ka's Exfinity Series and 1769 01:25:08,307 --> 01:25:12,627 Speaker 3: a ruling finish. Zilich leading Van Guesbergen. 1770 01:25:12,427 --> 01:25:15,347 Speaker 24: Nine eighty eight, drives away. 1771 01:25:16,227 --> 01:25:19,547 Speaker 3: He is a root star on the road. Connor Zilitch 1772 01:25:19,627 --> 01:25:20,347 Speaker 3: gonna take it. 1773 01:25:20,587 --> 01:25:26,747 Speaker 24: At Sonoma they finished one two again, but this week 1774 01:25:26,867 --> 01:25:30,787 Speaker 24: Connor Zilich has the upper hand over Shane van Guezbergen. 1775 01:25:31,507 --> 01:25:34,347 Speaker 3: They had the gis second at Sonoma after picking up 1776 01:25:34,387 --> 01:25:37,987 Speaker 3: pol for the Cup Series race under way tomorrow to 1777 01:25:38,267 --> 01:25:41,227 Speaker 3: a busy night in the NRL. The Melbourne storm up 1778 01:25:41,267 --> 01:25:45,547 Speaker 3: to second a big one over the night who lifted jers. 1779 01:25:46,267 --> 01:25:51,307 Speaker 25: So gets away pursy down four det series. 1780 01:25:51,347 --> 01:25:55,827 Speaker 3: It just too strong from Thurston right thirty two fourteen 1781 01:25:55,907 --> 01:25:58,507 Speaker 3: the final score the Roosters meantime fort Hines to beat 1782 01:25:58,507 --> 01:26:01,787 Speaker 3: the Dragons to Disco runs it gets it on his place, 1783 01:26:02,827 --> 01:26:08,987 Speaker 3: came over victory way. Look the camera celebrates its time 1784 01:26:09,787 --> 01:26:12,147 Speaker 3: our thirty one twenty four wedd and seeing the Roosters 1785 01:26:12,147 --> 01:26:14,147 Speaker 3: stay well and truly in the hunt for the top 1786 01:26:14,187 --> 01:26:17,587 Speaker 3: eight and the Bulldogs arresting their recent slide with her 1787 01:26:17,627 --> 01:26:19,187 Speaker 3: and over the Cowboys. 1788 01:26:18,987 --> 01:26:19,907 Speaker 2: Up to Chuana. 1789 01:26:20,347 --> 01:26:23,667 Speaker 3: He's got rid ofica. You don't give it a little 1790 01:26:23,747 --> 01:26:26,467 Speaker 3: hand start for Dacam s. 1791 01:26:28,787 --> 01:26:33,467 Speaker 19: Scheffra Ridicama become to triscorer in the NRL. 1792 01:26:33,787 --> 01:26:35,307 Speaker 3: That try was right at the end of the first 1793 01:26:35,387 --> 01:26:38,387 Speaker 3: half to make it twelve eight. It also happened to 1794 01:26:38,467 --> 01:26:41,547 Speaker 3: be the last scoring action of the entire match. Twelve 1795 01:26:41,587 --> 01:26:44,347 Speaker 3: eight the final scoad to rugby Union, the British and 1796 01:26:44,387 --> 01:26:48,627 Speaker 3: Irish Lions romping home over the combined Australia New Zealand. 1797 01:26:48,707 --> 01:26:52,907 Speaker 3: Fifteen for the Lions. Farrell hands it on the angle. 1798 01:26:53,227 --> 01:26:55,347 Speaker 3: He comes Keenan Howry that. 1799 01:26:55,587 --> 01:27:00,387 Speaker 2: At a looking for He's thirty's got it. 1800 01:27:00,867 --> 01:27:06,267 Speaker 3: There's the hard track so the shine Winger. Forty eight 1801 01:27:06,467 --> 01:27:09,147 Speaker 3: nil was the final score there and a couple of 1802 01:27:09,187 --> 01:27:13,227 Speaker 3: famous wins, first for the Fiji and rugby team. 1803 01:27:13,707 --> 01:27:16,587 Speaker 8: Months inside bowl breaking so. 1804 01:27:16,867 --> 01:27:19,067 Speaker 9: Rady, brilliant. 1805 01:27:21,547 --> 01:27:24,627 Speaker 26: This is a famous one for Fiji. They have beaten 1806 01:27:24,747 --> 01:27:31,347 Speaker 26: Scotland in Siver for the third time in front of 1807 01:27:31,427 --> 01:27:32,467 Speaker 26: a trumpolent crowd. 1808 01:27:32,947 --> 01:27:36,467 Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty nine to fourteen. Well done to Fiji, Betting Scotland. 1809 01:27:36,627 --> 01:27:40,907 Speaker 3: And for the first time since the twenty twenty three 1810 01:27:41,107 --> 01:27:45,387 Speaker 3: Rugby World Cup, Wales have won a game of rugby. 1811 01:27:46,187 --> 01:27:50,627 Speaker 19: There goes the hoot rivera Morgan Williams kicks it into 1812 01:27:50,667 --> 01:27:57,227 Speaker 19: the stands. The weights is over for Wales fans, the 1813 01:27:57,347 --> 01:28:02,107 Speaker 19: weight is lifted for the Welsh players. It's been six 1814 01:28:02,227 --> 01:28:04,467 Speaker 19: hundred and forty four days since they've known this. 1815 01:28:04,667 --> 01:28:08,867 Speaker 1: Feeling freaking elm, the Hail Mary's and the epic fails. 1816 01:28:10,467 --> 01:28:13,467 Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Lyme, New Stork. 1817 01:28:13,587 --> 01:28:17,067 Speaker 3: Zenvy twelve minutes past two. The Black Sox our men's 1818 01:28:17,107 --> 01:28:20,587 Speaker 3: softball side still in contention to add to their record 1819 01:28:20,787 --> 01:28:24,347 Speaker 3: seven world titles at Softball's World Cut, the last of 1820 01:28:24,427 --> 01:28:27,587 Speaker 3: those they won in twenty seventeen. New Zealand have a 1821 01:28:27,707 --> 01:28:30,787 Speaker 3: one win one loss record in the top four Super 1822 01:28:30,907 --> 01:28:34,707 Speaker 3: Round that after pipping the United States five to four 1823 01:28:34,907 --> 01:28:39,507 Speaker 3: yesterday thanks to Jerome Iraimaky's walk off home run in 1824 01:28:39,627 --> 01:28:44,947 Speaker 3: the very lastining works swung ond football. 1825 01:28:45,627 --> 01:28:47,787 Speaker 17: You should say goodbye. 1826 01:28:49,067 --> 01:28:49,467 Speaker 8: Horror. 1827 01:28:53,707 --> 01:29:06,067 Speaker 6: Jerome rebucky no one figure in the situation. He works 1828 01:29:06,907 --> 01:29:14,027 Speaker 6: for New Zealand. I said, how crazy. I do not 1829 01:29:14,307 --> 01:29:14,787 Speaker 6: believe it. 1830 01:29:15,107 --> 01:29:19,107 Speaker 3: Incredible stuff from Jerome on Imaki. It means that New 1831 01:29:19,187 --> 01:29:22,387 Speaker 3: Zealand have to beat Japan this afternoon to stay in 1832 01:29:22,547 --> 01:29:25,987 Speaker 3: contention for the gold medal match. It'll also rely on 1833 01:29:26,347 --> 01:29:29,467 Speaker 3: the result in the other game this afternoon between Venezuela 1834 01:29:29,587 --> 01:29:32,907 Speaker 3: and the United States of America. Jerome on a Mackey 1835 01:29:33,107 --> 01:29:36,467 Speaker 3: is with us on weekends port. Jerome quite the finish 1836 01:29:36,547 --> 01:29:39,107 Speaker 3: to the game yesterday, bottom of the seventh, one out 1837 01:29:39,187 --> 01:29:42,347 Speaker 3: your four to two down runners on first and second. 1838 01:29:42,427 --> 01:29:45,227 Speaker 3: It is a massive at bat for you. What's going 1839 01:29:45,307 --> 01:29:48,587 Speaker 3: through your head as you step up to be fair? 1840 01:29:49,147 --> 01:29:51,387 Speaker 27: I was just looking to pass the better non to 1841 01:29:51,507 --> 01:29:55,307 Speaker 27: the next person, to be fair. But yeah, it was 1842 01:29:55,427 --> 01:29:58,547 Speaker 27: just yeah, really trying to get on base and just 1843 01:29:58,627 --> 01:30:01,947 Speaker 27: apply a bit more pressure. But just managed to have 1844 01:30:02,027 --> 01:30:04,387 Speaker 27: a spot where I was able to put a good 1845 01:30:04,867 --> 01:30:07,507 Speaker 27: swing on a pitch and then the rest is history. 1846 01:30:07,907 --> 01:30:10,947 Speaker 3: How are the emotions as you see it sail over 1847 01:30:10,987 --> 01:30:11,987 Speaker 3: the left field fence. 1848 01:30:13,467 --> 01:30:15,187 Speaker 27: To be fair, I didn't actually see it go to 1849 01:30:15,267 --> 01:30:18,187 Speaker 27: the fence. I just kind of I kind of knew 1850 01:30:18,307 --> 01:30:22,947 Speaker 27: there's a feeling, but I did have a little moment 1851 01:30:23,387 --> 01:30:26,267 Speaker 27: between home plate and first base where I can't remember 1852 01:30:26,347 --> 01:30:29,067 Speaker 27: too much. So it was just back to basics and 1853 01:30:29,347 --> 01:30:30,987 Speaker 27: make sure I touch all the bases and do all 1854 01:30:31,027 --> 01:30:31,827 Speaker 27: the little things right. 1855 01:30:33,027 --> 01:30:35,947 Speaker 3: When you connect on a hit like that, you alluded 1856 01:30:35,987 --> 01:30:37,987 Speaker 3: to it just now, do you know? Do you know 1857 01:30:38,107 --> 01:30:38,907 Speaker 3: that that's gone? 1858 01:30:40,147 --> 01:30:43,427 Speaker 27: Yeah, there is a certain feeling, and majority of the 1859 01:30:43,507 --> 01:30:46,107 Speaker 27: times you can't feel anything, which is always a good 1860 01:30:46,187 --> 01:30:48,347 Speaker 27: sign because if you can feel it in your hands, 1861 01:30:48,547 --> 01:30:51,027 Speaker 27: you're either too far up the bed or too far 1862 01:30:51,107 --> 01:30:53,787 Speaker 27: down the bed. So yeah, that one felt pretty good. 1863 01:30:54,147 --> 01:30:55,947 Speaker 3: And you're a left handed better of course, so right 1864 01:30:56,027 --> 01:31:00,067 Speaker 3: field feels more likely. Do you hit mainly to right 1865 01:31:00,107 --> 01:31:02,627 Speaker 3: field or is left field somewhere you've had good success 1866 01:31:02,667 --> 01:31:03,187 Speaker 3: as well. 1867 01:31:05,267 --> 01:31:08,747 Speaker 27: It's not well you try and hit the ball where 1868 01:31:08,787 --> 01:31:12,787 Speaker 27: it's pitched, Yeah, try and reverse it. So that's sort 1869 01:31:12,827 --> 01:31:15,627 Speaker 27: of that's the way we're taught from a young age. 1870 01:31:15,667 --> 01:31:17,787 Speaker 27: Is to hit the ball where it's pitched and don't 1871 01:31:17,827 --> 01:31:19,787 Speaker 27: try and do too much with it. When it's coming 1872 01:31:19,827 --> 01:31:21,467 Speaker 27: out at any seven miles, you don't really have to 1873 01:31:21,507 --> 01:31:22,027 Speaker 27: do too much. 1874 01:31:22,987 --> 01:31:25,387 Speaker 3: And you've been around the sport for a while, is 1875 01:31:25,507 --> 01:31:28,147 Speaker 3: that among your best moments in the game. 1876 01:31:29,747 --> 01:31:33,467 Speaker 27: Yeah, there's definitely up there for sure, definitely the best 1877 01:31:33,507 --> 01:31:36,867 Speaker 27: black Socks moment. But I think the best ones yet 1878 01:31:36,907 --> 01:31:37,187 Speaker 27: to come. 1879 01:31:37,907 --> 01:31:40,067 Speaker 3: I agree with that because there is more to come. 1880 01:31:40,147 --> 01:31:42,667 Speaker 3: So so far at the tournament, you've beaten Canada and Argentina, 1881 01:31:42,747 --> 01:31:45,707 Speaker 3: lost of Venezuela, beat the US. As I say, how 1882 01:31:45,747 --> 01:31:48,587 Speaker 3: do you evaluate the World Cup campaign and overall terms 1883 01:31:48,667 --> 01:31:49,347 Speaker 3: up to this point. 1884 01:31:51,027 --> 01:31:53,947 Speaker 27: Yeah, it's hard to do it before it ends. But 1885 01:31:55,347 --> 01:31:59,267 Speaker 27: the way that we've been tracking currently is we're on 1886 01:31:59,347 --> 01:32:01,467 Speaker 27: track for those little goals that were put in place 1887 01:32:03,147 --> 01:32:05,827 Speaker 27: throughout the well pretty much since we started in Toronto 1888 01:32:06,547 --> 01:32:09,427 Speaker 27: till now. We've got a couple of hurdles to get over. 1889 01:32:09,947 --> 01:32:13,547 Speaker 27: But yeah, it's pretty hard to put How did I 1890 01:32:13,627 --> 01:32:16,987 Speaker 27: put it? Just to put a nail on how we're 1891 01:32:17,107 --> 01:32:20,187 Speaker 27: cracking at the moment because it's the final result that 1892 01:32:20,347 --> 01:32:22,747 Speaker 27: sort of be always right off that. 1893 01:32:23,667 --> 01:32:25,467 Speaker 3: How did you feel coming in as a team, did 1894 01:32:25,507 --> 01:32:27,907 Speaker 3: you feel well prepped and ready for the for the 1895 01:32:28,347 --> 01:32:30,707 Speaker 3: World Cup coming in Yeah. 1896 01:32:30,747 --> 01:32:34,587 Speaker 27: I think as a team it's always the hardest, especially 1897 01:32:34,667 --> 01:32:36,827 Speaker 27: when a few of us were already over here in 1898 01:32:36,867 --> 01:32:40,907 Speaker 27: the States and then a lot traveled from New Zealand. 1899 01:32:41,027 --> 01:32:43,787 Speaker 27: So it's always sort of the first week and a 1900 01:32:43,867 --> 01:32:46,947 Speaker 27: bit is just sort of gelling together. And I think 1901 01:32:46,987 --> 01:32:49,027 Speaker 27: the first weekend we got together, we sort of hit 1902 01:32:49,067 --> 01:32:52,707 Speaker 27: the ground running. So it's always the unknown, but the 1903 01:32:52,787 --> 01:32:54,867 Speaker 27: preparation leaving from home there was a lot of hard 1904 01:32:54,907 --> 01:32:58,347 Speaker 27: work put in and that's showing at this letterage later 1905 01:32:58,427 --> 01:32:59,347 Speaker 27: stage of this tournament. 1906 01:32:59,787 --> 01:33:01,987 Speaker 3: How formidable an opponent are Japan. 1907 01:33:03,907 --> 01:33:06,547 Speaker 27: Oh, they're ranked in in the top five in the world, 1908 01:33:06,627 --> 01:33:14,067 Speaker 27: so they're always going to be difficult, very crafty, very fast. Yeah, 1909 01:33:14,107 --> 01:33:17,587 Speaker 27: they've they've they've got all the tools there. But I 1910 01:33:17,627 --> 01:33:20,787 Speaker 27: think the way that we're going that we're going to 1911 01:33:20,787 --> 01:33:21,747 Speaker 27: be tough to stop as well. 1912 01:33:22,467 --> 01:33:25,427 Speaker 3: Black Sox of course have seven world titles, haven't meddled 1913 01:33:25,427 --> 01:33:27,627 Speaker 3: in the last two and you were at both of those. 1914 01:33:28,227 --> 01:33:30,707 Speaker 3: How driven are you, not just personally but as a 1915 01:33:30,787 --> 01:33:33,267 Speaker 3: team to have success here in Canada. 1916 01:33:34,547 --> 01:33:37,467 Speaker 27: Yeah, there's there's definitely a few from those last couple 1917 01:33:37,507 --> 01:33:40,267 Speaker 27: of campaigns that have been sleeping with a rock under 1918 01:33:40,307 --> 01:33:45,467 Speaker 27: the under the pillow farewell. So yeah, it's not just us, 1919 01:33:45,907 --> 01:33:48,587 Speaker 27: the guys that maybe on their first one or also 1920 01:33:48,787 --> 01:33:51,147 Speaker 27: pretty driven in that as well. So I then it 1921 01:33:51,227 --> 01:33:53,427 Speaker 27: starts at the top through the coaching stuff and just 1922 01:33:53,467 --> 01:33:54,907 Speaker 27: filters through to us as players. 1923 01:33:55,347 --> 01:33:57,387 Speaker 3: All right, well, look, we wish you all the best 1924 01:33:57,427 --> 01:33:59,347 Speaker 3: against Japan. Can't wait to see how it plays that. 1925 01:33:59,547 --> 01:34:01,347 Speaker 3: Just back to your head. I know you don't sound 1926 01:34:01,387 --> 01:34:03,107 Speaker 3: too keen on talking about yourself, but did your phone 1927 01:34:03,107 --> 01:34:05,547 Speaker 3: blow up afterwards? It's all over social over here. 1928 01:34:06,467 --> 01:34:09,147 Speaker 27: Yeah, it did a little bit. I've to put it 1929 01:34:09,187 --> 01:34:10,987 Speaker 27: down for a little bit. Last night we went to dinner, 1930 01:34:11,067 --> 01:34:12,307 Speaker 27: so that was quite. 1931 01:34:12,187 --> 01:34:14,907 Speaker 3: Nice, wonderful stuff. Made a great moment for you and 1932 01:34:15,027 --> 01:34:16,867 Speaker 3: for the team. I hope it continues. Thanks for taking 1933 01:34:16,907 --> 01:34:18,147 Speaker 3: the time for a chat this afternoon. 1934 01:34:18,787 --> 01:34:20,027 Speaker 27: Awesome, Thanks for having me, No. 1935 01:34:20,107 --> 01:34:24,307 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Jerome, Jerome i Amaki. There a 1936 01:34:24,387 --> 01:34:26,547 Speaker 3: walk off home run over the left field fence to 1937 01:34:26,547 --> 01:34:29,107 Speaker 3: give New Zealand victory over the United States. So they 1938 01:34:29,187 --> 01:34:34,067 Speaker 3: played Japan. That game is underway very shortly actually, and 1939 01:34:34,347 --> 01:34:36,667 Speaker 3: a winner is necessary for New Zealand to make it 1940 01:34:36,747 --> 01:34:38,587 Speaker 3: to the gold medal match. It will also depend on 1941 01:34:38,667 --> 01:34:41,507 Speaker 3: the other game, which is in the top of the 1942 01:34:41,587 --> 01:34:44,227 Speaker 3: seventh at the moment, So getting towards the end, Venezuela 1943 01:34:44,347 --> 01:34:48,227 Speaker 3: lead the United States six'. Four New zealand would be 1944 01:34:48,307 --> 01:34:51,787 Speaker 3: favored by The United states winning that. Match they're gonna 1945 01:34:51,827 --> 01:34:53,467 Speaker 3: have to get a move on, though because they're two 1946 01:34:53,747 --> 01:34:56,987 Speaker 3: down in the top of the seventh and trailing six to. 1947 01:34:57,027 --> 01:35:00,107 Speaker 3: Four so what that means effectively is if they can't 1948 01:35:00,347 --> 01:35:02,467 Speaker 3: at least tie the game with the one remaining out 1949 01:35:02,547 --> 01:35:05,547 Speaker 3: they have in that, inning that's over And venezuela will 1950 01:35:05,787 --> 01:35:08,867 Speaker 3: win the. Game New zealand can't do much about. That 1951 01:35:08,987 --> 01:35:11,307 Speaker 3: all they can do is Beat japan and then see 1952 01:35:11,347 --> 01:35:14,227 Speaker 3: how the points differential shakes down to find out whether 1953 01:35:14,267 --> 01:35:17,707 Speaker 3: they'll be playing four gold or contesting the third and 1954 01:35:17,947 --> 01:35:21,827 Speaker 3: fourth place. Playoff still eight nil The warriors over The 1955 01:35:21,947 --> 01:35:25,387 Speaker 3: Paramatta eels and The Women's. Nral twenty seven and a 1956 01:35:25,427 --> 01:35:28,947 Speaker 3: half minute's gone at go Media, bunker just checking a 1957 01:35:29,027 --> 01:35:31,587 Speaker 3: potential try by The, warriors which isn't going to be 1958 01:35:31,627 --> 01:35:35,467 Speaker 3: given because the ball has dropped out of the potential triscorer's. 1959 01:35:35,507 --> 01:35:38,347 Speaker 3: Hands it remains eight nil approaching the half hour mark 1960 01:35:38,467 --> 01:35:40,707 Speaker 3: At Go. Media we'll take a break then get To. 1961 01:35:40,827 --> 01:35:46,627 Speaker 3: Wimbledon a hugely one sided women's singles final overnight and 1962 01:35:46,707 --> 01:35:51,107 Speaker 3: the prospect of another epic men's singles final tonight when 1963 01:35:51,147 --> 01:35:52,827 Speaker 3: the top two players in the world go head to 1964 01:35:52,907 --> 01:35:55,627 Speaker 3: head on the grass At. Wimbledon Craig gabriel going to 1965 01:35:55,827 --> 01:35:57,307 Speaker 3: break it all down for us when we come. 1966 01:35:57,387 --> 01:35:59,827 Speaker 2: Back it's more than just a. 1967 01:35:59,947 --> 01:36:04,667 Speaker 1: Game Weekend sport With Jason vine AND Tj, Garnobs New 1968 01:36:04,747 --> 01:36:06,667 Speaker 1: zealand's most trusted home builder News. 1969 01:36:06,747 --> 01:36:09,707 Speaker 3: Talks the Be News talks have beat us two twenty 1970 01:36:09,867 --> 01:36:14,667 Speaker 3: three and utterly dominant display in The Wimbledon women's tennis. 1971 01:36:14,707 --> 01:36:16,587 Speaker 3: Final that's all. 1972 01:36:18,067 --> 01:36:18,987 Speaker 2: A way to end, It. 1973 01:36:21,467 --> 01:36:26,507 Speaker 25: Ego Spiat, tech a dominant display is now A Grand 1974 01:36:26,587 --> 01:36:32,187 Speaker 25: slam champion for all, Surfaces elation and Also constellation for 1975 01:36:32,267 --> 01:36:34,707 Speaker 25: an opponent who led the datemare out, Here but this 1976 01:36:34,867 --> 01:36:38,547 Speaker 25: is Spiatz tax's. Moment she may out of imagined, It, 1977 01:36:38,627 --> 01:36:41,507 Speaker 25: christy but she looks like she expected it. 1978 01:36:41,587 --> 01:36:46,227 Speaker 3: Today eighth Seed egos Fion tech Blitzing amanda and A 1979 01:36:46,307 --> 01:36:49,707 Speaker 3: samova six, love six love in less than an hour 1980 01:36:50,147 --> 01:36:53,827 Speaker 3: to claim her first Ever wimbledon. Crown It's fiontek's Sixth 1981 01:36:53,907 --> 01:36:57,987 Speaker 3: Grand slam. Title she is unbeaten in major. Finals only 1982 01:36:58,107 --> 01:37:01,427 Speaker 3: once In wimbledon history has a women's final finished with 1983 01:37:01,587 --> 01:37:04,227 Speaker 3: the double. Bagel that's what they call, it six, love six. 1984 01:37:04,347 --> 01:37:07,507 Speaker 3: Love that was all the way back in nineteen, Eleven 1985 01:37:07,947 --> 01:37:11,267 Speaker 3: Craig gabriel watched on At. Wimbledon, craig you've watched a 1986 01:37:11,427 --> 01:37:13,707 Speaker 3: heck of a lot of. Tennis have you ever seen 1987 01:37:13,867 --> 01:37:17,947 Speaker 3: a more one sided major tennis? FINAL i. 1988 01:37:18,067 --> 01:37:21,547 Speaker 10: Have, Actually i'll get onto that In i'll get onto 1989 01:37:21,587 --> 01:37:22,067 Speaker 10: that in one. 1990 01:37:22,187 --> 01:37:26,147 Speaker 20: Second but you had to see the international media racing 1991 01:37:26,227 --> 01:37:30,747 Speaker 20: for the record books and the compendium That wimbledon, produced 1992 01:37:30,787 --> 01:37:34,187 Speaker 20: which is like a doorstop trying to find this sort 1993 01:37:34,227 --> 01:37:36,627 Speaker 20: of information as to the last, time in the last, 1994 01:37:36,667 --> 01:37:42,067 Speaker 20: time what it Was Dorothy Lambert chambers in nineteen eleven 1995 01:37:42,627 --> 01:37:47,067 Speaker 20: Over Dora. BROOKSBY i can't say THAT i Know dora 1996 01:37:47,707 --> 01:37:51,227 Speaker 20: that she must have been. Embarrassed and that match lasted 1997 01:37:51,307 --> 01:37:54,387 Speaker 20: twenty five. Minutes it was a little longer today fifty. 1998 01:37:54,467 --> 01:37:57,347 Speaker 20: Seven but it's the shortest or the quickest final that 1999 01:37:58,267 --> 01:38:00,707 Speaker 20: has happened At wimbledon on the women's side SINCE i 2000 01:38:00,787 --> 01:38:03,707 Speaker 20: think in twenty, nineteen When Simon halet Beats Serena. 2001 01:38:03,747 --> 01:38:07,027 Speaker 10: Williams but to your, question YES i. 2002 01:38:07,187 --> 01:38:11,547 Speaker 20: Have and it was the nineteen eighty Eight French final 2003 01:38:12,307 --> 01:38:18,067 Speaker 20: With Stephanie graff Defeating Natasha zvereva six, love six love. 2004 01:38:18,147 --> 01:38:19,027 Speaker 10: In thirty two. 2005 01:38:19,147 --> 01:38:24,387 Speaker 3: Minutes goodness may, so, yeah there you. Go why and, 2006 01:38:24,547 --> 01:38:32,267 Speaker 3: where apart from, everywhere Was siontek particularly. Dominant she went out. 2007 01:38:32,227 --> 01:38:38,107 Speaker 20: There playing fast, tennis aggressive, tennis and she got on 2008 01:38:38,267 --> 01:38:41,147 Speaker 20: top from the very very start of the, match and 2009 01:38:41,547 --> 01:38:44,027 Speaker 20: you could see there was some the nerves aspect was 2010 01:38:44,107 --> 01:38:48,187 Speaker 20: coming into play With Amanda. Anisimova she but what she said, was, 2011 01:38:48,227 --> 01:38:51,187 Speaker 20: yeah there were, nerves but it wasn't. Dramatic, WELL i 2012 01:38:51,267 --> 01:38:54,667 Speaker 20: think as the match progressed and things were just not 2013 01:38:54,947 --> 01:38:57,907 Speaker 20: happening for. HER i mean shots there would have been 2014 01:38:58,307 --> 01:39:00,867 Speaker 20: bread and, butter shots were going out or into the, 2015 01:39:00,987 --> 01:39:04,547 Speaker 20: net and the frustration was developing and the crowd was 2016 01:39:05,027 --> 01:39:06,667 Speaker 20: trying to get her going and. 2017 01:39:06,787 --> 01:39:09,547 Speaker 10: Lifting, her AND i think that would have added to 2018 01:39:09,907 --> 01:39:10,427 Speaker 10: the nerves. 2019 01:39:11,027 --> 01:39:14,707 Speaker 20: Situation but and then on top of, it to counteract 2020 01:39:14,787 --> 01:39:19,067 Speaker 20: somebody like srion tech conditions were helping. HER i mean 2021 01:39:19,107 --> 01:39:22,947 Speaker 20: it was hot and sunny and just think things just 2022 01:39:23,067 --> 01:39:24,667 Speaker 20: fell into play sport For Srian. 2023 01:39:24,747 --> 01:39:27,467 Speaker 10: Tech it was such a solid, performance it really. 2024 01:39:27,667 --> 01:39:28,107 Speaker 9: Was it was. 2025 01:39:28,547 --> 01:39:33,267 Speaker 3: Classy she is unbeaten in major, finals that Six Grand slam, 2026 01:39:33,347 --> 01:39:35,947 Speaker 3: title so she loves the big. Occasion craig by the ends. 2027 01:39:35,787 --> 01:39:37,547 Speaker 10: Of, It, oh there's no doubt about. 2028 01:39:37,587 --> 01:39:41,027 Speaker 20: It you, know with any of the big tour, players you, 2029 01:39:41,107 --> 01:39:43,267 Speaker 20: know the first couple of rounds might be a little 2030 01:39:43,307 --> 01:39:45,627 Speaker 20: bit of a. Drag we saw so many upsets At 2031 01:39:45,627 --> 01:39:48,827 Speaker 20: wimbledon this, year but when they get into a, rhythm 2032 01:39:49,067 --> 01:39:52,467 Speaker 20: it's so hard to stop. Them and Srion tek was 2033 01:39:52,667 --> 01:39:56,467 Speaker 20: just able to avoid any potential upsets and the draw 2034 01:39:56,707 --> 01:39:59,747 Speaker 20: opened up for. Her and as is, saying these conditions 2035 01:39:59,987 --> 01:40:02,547 Speaker 20: for a lot of the time here At, wimbledon they've 2036 01:40:02,587 --> 01:40:06,587 Speaker 20: been hot and. Sunny WHEN i walk down to the 2037 01:40:06,707 --> 01:40:10,187 Speaker 20: courts this morning From southfield's tube, station which is the 2038 01:40:10,227 --> 01:40:14,027 Speaker 20: most convenient tube station for The All England, club it 2039 01:40:14,267 --> 01:40:16,747 Speaker 20: was seven point thirty in the morning and it was 2040 01:40:16,827 --> 01:40:19,827 Speaker 20: twenty five degrees so it was a hot. 2041 01:40:19,947 --> 01:40:23,467 Speaker 3: Day let's go to The means final tonight as it 2042 01:40:23,627 --> 01:40:26,787 Speaker 3: was at The French Open Annick center Against Carlos. Elkarez 2043 01:40:26,907 --> 01:40:28,587 Speaker 3: we had a five and a half hour match that. 2044 01:40:28,707 --> 01:40:32,627 Speaker 3: Time elkarez winning in. Five might we see a similar 2045 01:40:32,707 --> 01:40:34,787 Speaker 3: battle At wimbledon and the means? 2046 01:40:34,867 --> 01:40:40,267 Speaker 10: Final wouldn't it be incredible if we? DID i, MEAN i, 2047 01:40:40,347 --> 01:40:43,627 Speaker 10: mean we'll be there through after dinner. 2048 01:40:43,707 --> 01:40:46,507 Speaker 20: Drinks it'll go that long because the final only starts 2049 01:40:46,507 --> 01:40:51,147 Speaker 20: at four o'clock in the Afternoon london. Time but both 2050 01:40:51,187 --> 01:40:54,187 Speaker 20: of them are expecting a, tough challenging, match and rightly. 2051 01:40:54,347 --> 01:40:58,227 Speaker 20: So they know exactly what to. Expect it's nothing. Different 2052 01:40:58,667 --> 01:41:00,987 Speaker 20: they've been through these matches time and again into they 2053 01:41:01,027 --> 01:41:05,507 Speaker 20: head to head his eight to four In carlitos's. Favor you, 2054 01:41:05,587 --> 01:41:10,667 Speaker 20: know suggest asked For, alcaraz will you have the mental 2055 01:41:10,947 --> 01:41:14,107 Speaker 20: edge considering what happened at The French, open and he 2056 01:41:14,227 --> 01:41:17,867 Speaker 20: said absolutely, not definitely, not and. 2057 01:41:17,947 --> 01:41:19,267 Speaker 10: That is the truth as he put. 2058 01:41:19,347 --> 01:41:23,867 Speaker 20: IT a sorry sinner feels That alcaraz is the, favorite 2059 01:41:23,907 --> 01:41:27,427 Speaker 20: and he probably is is right in, that considering That 2060 01:41:27,507 --> 01:41:31,067 Speaker 20: alcaraz has won the last Two wimbledon's and is quite 2061 01:41:31,147 --> 01:41:31,987 Speaker 20: comfortable playing on. 2062 01:41:32,147 --> 01:41:35,187 Speaker 10: Grass so we'll see how this pans. 2063 01:41:35,227 --> 01:41:38,827 Speaker 20: Out BUT i think we are in for another humdinger 2064 01:41:38,907 --> 01:41:42,907 Speaker 20: of a. Match for, me nothing Against. CARLOS i think 2065 01:41:42,987 --> 01:41:45,547 Speaker 20: the world Of. Carlos by the, way he doesn't like 2066 01:41:45,627 --> 01:41:50,987 Speaker 20: being Called. Carlos it's Either charlie Or. Carlitos and BUT 2067 01:41:51,427 --> 01:41:54,547 Speaker 20: i would like to See annik winn and you, know 2068 01:41:54,747 --> 01:41:57,747 Speaker 20: he's he's a wonderful. Guy both of them are the 2069 01:41:57,867 --> 01:42:01,227 Speaker 20: heartbreak Of. PARIS i, think you, know it'll be wonderful 2070 01:42:01,347 --> 01:42:03,867 Speaker 20: to see him get. Through and also there's An australian 2071 01:42:03,947 --> 01:42:07,387 Speaker 20: connection in that one of his two, Coaches Darren, cahill 2072 01:42:07,507 --> 01:42:10,347 Speaker 20: is An australian and has done wonders with, him as 2073 01:42:10,827 --> 01:42:12,027 Speaker 20: as His italian Coach. 2074 01:42:12,067 --> 01:42:15,427 Speaker 3: Simoni he's never Won wimbledon, though here's He. Craig he's 2075 01:42:15,467 --> 01:42:17,867 Speaker 3: never even made the Final Yanick center before this. Year 2076 01:42:18,147 --> 01:42:22,667 Speaker 3: but he's obviously fairly handy on, grass is he, well he's. 2077 01:42:22,587 --> 01:42:25,187 Speaker 20: More comfortable on it. NOW i mean it's taken a little. 2078 01:42:25,227 --> 01:42:28,387 Speaker 20: While he admitted, that you, know he was a bit 2079 01:42:28,467 --> 01:42:31,707 Speaker 20: toss on the. Movement WHAT i think has helped change things, 2080 01:42:31,747 --> 01:42:36,267 Speaker 20: Around And Darren cahile was revealing. This He Novak djokovic 2081 01:42:36,387 --> 01:42:41,107 Speaker 20: Beat yanick on two occasions At. Wimbledon the first time they, 2082 01:42:41,227 --> 01:42:44,187 Speaker 20: Played yanick was up two sets to love and lost. 2083 01:42:44,267 --> 01:42:48,507 Speaker 20: It the final three sets were pretty handy In novak's 2084 01:42:48,507 --> 01:42:51,947 Speaker 20: Favorite darren had just started working With yannick and he 2085 01:42:52,067 --> 01:42:53,987 Speaker 20: went To. Novak he, said, look don't tell me what 2086 01:42:54,107 --> 01:42:56,587 Speaker 20: you don't want want to, say but what do you? 2087 01:42:56,707 --> 01:43:01,547 Speaker 20: Think And novak gave him a complete write up on 2088 01:43:02,107 --> 01:43:06,307 Speaker 20: what is Failing yannick and that's when things really. Started 2089 01:43:07,027 --> 01:43:09,827 Speaker 20: and now in the semi, final that was the fifth 2090 01:43:09,827 --> 01:43:12,747 Speaker 20: straight time he'd Beaten. Novak thanks nice for you, know 2091 01:43:13,027 --> 01:43:17,227 Speaker 20: you're in friends like, that, seriously but it's you, know 2092 01:43:17,307 --> 01:43:19,947 Speaker 20: it's great to see him develop the way he has 2093 01:43:20,067 --> 01:43:22,347 Speaker 20: of the world number, one and he's one OF i 2094 01:43:22,427 --> 01:43:26,667 Speaker 20: think what five or eleven players to have reached. 2095 01:43:26,547 --> 01:43:30,027 Speaker 10: All four off the major finals in The open. Era 2096 01:43:30,667 --> 01:43:32,067 Speaker 10: but what he has. 2097 01:43:32,027 --> 01:43:36,947 Speaker 20: Also done is the sixth player or six man to win. 2098 01:43:37,267 --> 01:43:40,427 Speaker 20: Too sorry it reached the finals of four consecutive. Majors 2099 01:43:40,947 --> 01:43:42,547 Speaker 20: started at THE Us open last. 2100 01:43:42,627 --> 01:43:45,307 Speaker 3: Year quite in, cribble just to finish. Quickly Craig, Novak. 2101 01:43:45,387 --> 01:43:48,667 Speaker 3: Djokovic have we seen his last major? 2102 01:43:48,747 --> 01:43:52,507 Speaker 20: Win He's he was sort of asked that in a 2103 01:43:52,587 --> 01:43:56,387 Speaker 20: roundabout way, yesterday and he says he expects to be 2104 01:43:56,947 --> 01:44:00,107 Speaker 20: back At, wimbledon, maybe as he put, it for one Last, 2105 01:44:00,187 --> 01:44:06,267 Speaker 20: Wimbledon so we'll. See but he admitted that ages catching 2106 01:44:06,547 --> 01:44:08,827 Speaker 20: up and the injuries are. There he's a bit more 2107 01:44:10,147 --> 01:44:14,267 Speaker 20: susceptible to injuries because of the age, factor but he, 2108 01:44:14,307 --> 01:44:18,947 Speaker 20: SAID i change anybody to match me for the WAY 2109 01:44:19,267 --> 01:44:22,107 Speaker 20: i take care of my body and the work THAT i. 2110 01:44:22,267 --> 01:44:24,547 Speaker 3: Do All, right we'll wait and see what lies ahead 2111 01:44:24,587 --> 01:44:27,387 Speaker 3: For novak not to be At wimbledon twenty twenty, Five 2112 01:44:27,867 --> 01:44:31,347 Speaker 3: Janick center Against Carlos alcarez for the men's singles. Final 2113 01:44:31,387 --> 01:44:33,787 Speaker 3: alcarez can make it three in a. Row Jarix cinner 2114 01:44:33,827 --> 01:44:37,187 Speaker 3: can win his First wimbledon. Title Craig gabriel And, wimbledon 2115 01:44:37,187 --> 01:44:39,067 Speaker 3: and thank you for your. Time as, Always, craig appreciate 2116 01:44:39,107 --> 01:44:42,227 Speaker 3: you updating us on what you see on the grass 2117 01:44:42,347 --> 01:44:44,867 Speaker 3: courts At, wimbledon what you see all around the tennis. 2118 01:44:44,947 --> 01:44:48,067 Speaker 3: World always good to get your insight and your. Analysis, 2119 01:44:48,107 --> 01:44:51,427 Speaker 3: halftime it go me to your. Stadium THE nrl women's 2120 01:44:51,547 --> 01:44:54,867 Speaker 3: match between The warriors and The Paramatta, eels eight nil 2121 01:44:55,787 --> 01:44:59,547 Speaker 3: remains the. Score that was the score after seven, minutes 2122 01:45:00,067 --> 01:45:05,107 Speaker 3: so a largely uneventful in terms of scoreboard activity, anyway 2123 01:45:05,347 --> 01:45:07,547 Speaker 3: final half hour or, so but eight. Nil The warriors 2124 01:45:07,587 --> 01:45:10,707 Speaker 3: women lead The Paramatta eels and of course The warriors 2125 01:45:10,827 --> 01:45:13,987 Speaker 3: men's side to follow up against The West tigers off 2126 01:45:14,027 --> 01:45:16,827 Speaker 3: the back of their by and back to back defeats 2127 01:45:16,907 --> 01:45:20,427 Speaker 3: before the bye to The panthers at home and The broncos. 2128 01:45:20,587 --> 01:45:24,107 Speaker 3: Away first time the, season The warriors have lost consecutive. 2129 01:45:24,187 --> 01:45:26,467 Speaker 3: Games they'll certainly be looking to change things. Around looking 2130 01:45:26,467 --> 01:45:28,667 Speaker 3: at the table at the, moment actually The warriors are 2131 01:45:28,667 --> 01:45:30,707 Speaker 3: still in the top. Four there's still that buffer back 2132 01:45:30,747 --> 01:45:33,827 Speaker 3: to The broncos of four. Points they can't climb any 2133 01:45:33,907 --> 01:45:37,787 Speaker 3: higher with victory. Today The bulldogs are four points ahead 2134 01:45:37,787 --> 01:45:42,027 Speaker 3: of them in third, place but The, warriors you, know 2135 01:45:42,107 --> 01:45:45,027 Speaker 3: it can open up a six point gap back to 2136 01:45:45,107 --> 01:45:49,947 Speaker 3: The broncos if they were to win this. Afternoon it feels, like, 2137 01:45:50,347 --> 01:45:53,067 Speaker 3: yeah it feels like they should be. Okay, Well james 2138 01:45:53,147 --> 01:45:57,227 Speaker 3: mconey call it a banana skin match, POTENTIALLY i feel 2139 01:45:57,267 --> 01:45:59,107 Speaker 3: like they should be okay against The West. Tigers just 2140 01:45:59,187 --> 01:46:02,387 Speaker 3: checking The. Broncos they of course play later on against The, 2141 01:46:02,467 --> 01:46:05,347 Speaker 3: titans so you'd have to think they'll be favorites to win. 2142 01:46:05,427 --> 01:46:08,627 Speaker 3: That so The broncos could close that gap. Again if 2143 01:46:08,667 --> 01:46:10,867 Speaker 3: The warriors were to lose in The broncos, one the 2144 01:46:10,947 --> 01:46:13,427 Speaker 3: gap between fourth and fifth would only be two. Points 2145 01:46:14,027 --> 01:46:17,827 Speaker 3: you don't want, that you do not want? That twenty 2146 01:46:17,947 --> 01:46:20,187 Speaker 3: seven away from. Three let's get a breakaway when we come. 2147 01:46:20,227 --> 01:46:23,747 Speaker 3: Back Wayne goldsmith At Coaching guru on what he calls 2148 01:46:23,787 --> 01:46:27,347 Speaker 3: one of sport's biggest myths and in his, view we 2149 01:46:27,507 --> 01:46:30,707 Speaker 3: are the ones that created. It Wayne, goldsmith when we come. 2150 01:46:30,627 --> 01:46:34,707 Speaker 1: Back the tough questions off the Turf Weekend sport With 2151 01:46:34,907 --> 01:46:38,867 Speaker 1: jason hin AND. Gj, Garnnerholmes New zealand's most trusted home 2152 01:46:38,907 --> 01:46:39,627 Speaker 1: Builder News. 2153 01:46:39,547 --> 01:46:43,027 Speaker 3: Dogs twenty four away from. Three what time is the? 2154 01:46:43,107 --> 01:46:45,987 Speaker 3: Means final asks this. Text it is three o'clock in 2155 01:46:46,027 --> 01:46:48,267 Speaker 3: the Morning New zealand, time so four pm In, london 2156 01:46:48,707 --> 01:46:51,307 Speaker 3: three o'clock in the Morning New zealand. Time tomorrow. Morning 2157 01:46:51,427 --> 01:46:55,027 Speaker 3: yallick sinnot Against carlos Al. Kiraz it's great to have 2158 01:46:55,307 --> 01:46:57,947 Speaker 3: on a regular basis on Weekend sport the wisdom of 2159 01:46:58,107 --> 01:47:00,187 Speaker 3: one of the great coaching minds in this part of 2160 01:47:00,227 --> 01:47:03,187 Speaker 3: the world or any part of the, World Coaching Guru Wayne, 2161 01:47:03,267 --> 01:47:06,107 Speaker 3: goldsmith who joins us. Now, wayne thanks for your time 2162 01:47:06,107 --> 01:47:09,187 Speaker 3: on to chat today about WHAT i saw you call 2163 01:47:09,347 --> 01:47:12,867 Speaker 3: online in the last week or so sports biggest myth 2164 01:47:13,587 --> 01:47:15,747 Speaker 3: and in your view we were the ones who created. 2165 01:47:15,787 --> 01:47:19,067 Speaker 3: It the myth is that parents are the. Problem you 2166 01:47:19,187 --> 01:47:22,867 Speaker 3: say that for decades we have treated parents like enemies 2167 01:47:23,387 --> 01:47:26,347 Speaker 3: when it comes to their kids playing, sport and then 2168 01:47:26,547 --> 01:47:29,867 Speaker 3: we've complained when they became too, Demanding we've excluded, them 2169 01:47:30,347 --> 01:47:34,387 Speaker 3: refused to educate, them and then criticized their. Expectations in, 2170 01:47:34,467 --> 01:47:39,187 Speaker 3: fact you believe parents are actually sports greatest untapped. Resource 2171 01:47:39,707 --> 01:47:43,547 Speaker 3: not it's biggest. Problem so let's unpack. This where for, 2172 01:47:43,667 --> 01:47:47,187 Speaker 3: starters did the parents are the problem myth actually come? 2173 01:47:47,267 --> 01:47:50,227 Speaker 28: From, well it's an interesting one, point isn't it THAT 2174 01:47:50,827 --> 01:47:55,427 Speaker 28: i think because there's a very very small fraction of 2175 01:47:55,667 --> 01:47:59,347 Speaker 28: parents who are you, know what's the technical term retbag, 2176 01:47:59,427 --> 01:48:01,387 Speaker 28: parents the ones that run up and down the side 2177 01:48:01,387 --> 01:48:03,787 Speaker 28: of the, pool or run up and down the side 2178 01:48:03,827 --> 01:48:04,947 Speaker 28: of the field yelling. 2179 01:48:05,027 --> 01:48:09,707 Speaker 9: Abuse they're very, rare BUT i think they're. 2180 01:48:09,627 --> 01:48:15,667 Speaker 28: Disproportionately represented in media and coaching programs and coaching. Courses 2181 01:48:17,347 --> 01:48:21,467 Speaker 28: and when we see someone who's really vocal but yelling 2182 01:48:21,507 --> 01:48:24,387 Speaker 28: at referees and so, ON i think a lot of 2183 01:48:24,507 --> 01:48:27,747 Speaker 28: parents have been. Tired if you're like with that brush 2184 01:48:28,307 --> 01:48:30,387 Speaker 28: and it sort of became all, right, well then how 2185 01:48:30,467 --> 01:48:32,027 Speaker 28: do we manage all? 2186 01:48:32,187 --> 01:48:33,467 Speaker 9: Parents not go hang? 2187 01:48:33,507 --> 01:48:37,307 Speaker 28: On there's a small number who've got some issues around 2188 01:48:37,507 --> 01:48:42,747 Speaker 28: being overly invested or overly, passionate or expressing emotions in 2189 01:48:42,867 --> 01:48:46,227 Speaker 28: a challenging. WAY i think we all got sucked into 2190 01:48:46,347 --> 01:48:50,587 Speaker 28: well all parents are bad because of a very small 2191 01:48:50,707 --> 01:48:53,827 Speaker 28: number who've got some genuine, issues and then, that of 2192 01:48:53,947 --> 01:48:58,427 Speaker 28: course gets grabbed on by sporting associations and media and 2193 01:48:58,507 --> 01:49:01,947 Speaker 28: it becomes easy to talk about the nightmare parent and 2194 01:49:01,987 --> 01:49:05,707 Speaker 28: the horrible parent and the terror. Parent my experience is 2195 01:49:05,947 --> 01:49:09,227 Speaker 28: it's a very very small, number but it's got out 2196 01:49:09,267 --> 01:49:11,947 Speaker 28: of control to the point where a lot of coaches will, 2197 01:49:12,027 --> 01:49:14,187 Speaker 28: say you, know the best thing to do is coach 2198 01:49:14,307 --> 01:49:16,067 Speaker 28: next to an, orphanage or the. 2199 01:49:16,147 --> 01:49:18,987 Speaker 9: Best thing to do is to ban parents all. TOGETHER 2200 01:49:19,507 --> 01:49:20,667 Speaker 9: i don't think that's the right. 2201 01:49:20,747 --> 01:49:25,427 Speaker 3: Approach, now you believe most difficult parents are simply one 2202 01:49:25,467 --> 01:49:29,507 Speaker 3: of two, things or both scared and, uninformed they're not 2203 01:49:29,827 --> 01:49:32,747 Speaker 3: necessarily and for the most, part they're not malicious at. 2204 01:49:32,787 --> 01:49:35,467 Speaker 3: All can you just expand on the fact that they're 2205 01:49:36,067 --> 01:49:39,987 Speaker 3: scared and, uninformed scared of what and uninformed obviously about 2206 01:49:39,987 --> 01:49:41,747 Speaker 3: the sport that their kids are involved. 2207 01:49:41,787 --> 01:49:44,347 Speaker 28: In, well the most precious thing if you're a, parent 2208 01:49:44,747 --> 01:49:48,027 Speaker 28: even when your kids are being annoying and always asking 2209 01:49:48,107 --> 01:49:49,187 Speaker 28: For i've got eight, kids AND. 2210 01:49:49,587 --> 01:49:52,707 Speaker 9: I feel like an automatic tele machine with legs these. 2211 01:49:52,787 --> 01:49:56,187 Speaker 28: Days but even when they're being their most difficult and 2212 01:49:56,267 --> 01:49:59,947 Speaker 28: annoying and, challenging we still love them more than our next. 2213 01:50:00,067 --> 01:50:02,907 Speaker 28: Breath we still love them with everything we've. Got and 2214 01:50:03,187 --> 01:50:05,747 Speaker 28: then we in a sporting, context we take them down 2215 01:50:05,787 --> 01:50:08,587 Speaker 28: the logo rug be full or netball or cricket swimming, 2216 01:50:08,627 --> 01:50:12,987 Speaker 28: anywhere and we're, saying, Look i'm going to entrust this, 2217 01:50:13,347 --> 01:50:16,787 Speaker 28: beautiful precious thing THAT i value. 2218 01:50:16,587 --> 01:50:21,787 Speaker 9: Above life itself to you, coach or to you, club 2219 01:50:22,067 --> 01:50:22,587 Speaker 9: or to you. 2220 01:50:22,747 --> 01:50:27,667 Speaker 28: Official and they're nervous, about, well will they treat my 2221 01:50:27,787 --> 01:50:29,947 Speaker 28: child with a saving love and respect THAT i. Do 2222 01:50:30,827 --> 01:50:34,027 Speaker 28: will they have enough care about my child's well, being 2223 01:50:34,107 --> 01:50:39,107 Speaker 28: welfare and realizing their. Potential and it's a very, nervous nervous, 2224 01:50:39,147 --> 01:50:41,307 Speaker 28: moment particularly if you're a young parent or a parent 2225 01:50:41,747 --> 01:50:44,227 Speaker 28: who's a first time, parent who hasn't had a lot 2226 01:50:44,267 --> 01:50:48,227 Speaker 28: of experience with kindergarten or pre school or primary, school secondary. 2227 01:50:48,227 --> 01:50:51,827 Speaker 28: School you're not quite. Sure and out of that fear 2228 01:50:51,907 --> 01:50:54,667 Speaker 28: of well will they know what to do to help my? Child, 2229 01:50:55,027 --> 01:50:56,787 Speaker 28: well What i'll do just to be, Sure i'll tell 2230 01:50:56,907 --> 01:50:59,107 Speaker 28: my kids what to. Do i'll step, In i'll yell 2231 01:50:59,107 --> 01:51:02,907 Speaker 28: out instructions from the sideline's that's a big. One and 2232 01:51:02,987 --> 01:51:05,587 Speaker 28: the other one IS i think a lot of parents 2233 01:51:06,547 --> 01:51:09,667 Speaker 28: just don't know what good parenting looks. LIKE i think 2234 01:51:09,747 --> 01:51:13,747 Speaker 28: they confuse good parenting with the volume of their. Voice 2235 01:51:13,787 --> 01:51:16,387 Speaker 28: the more they heard on the, sideline the better they 2236 01:51:16,467 --> 01:51:17,787 Speaker 28: must be, parenting. 2237 01:51:17,867 --> 01:51:19,267 Speaker 9: And it's quite often the. 2238 01:51:19,347 --> 01:51:21,947 Speaker 28: Opposite but you know WHAT i find piny more and 2239 01:51:22,027 --> 01:51:24,667 Speaker 28: more is, that you, know young parents coming, in it's 2240 01:51:24,707 --> 01:51:26,467 Speaker 28: okay for old guys like me have been in this 2241 01:51:26,587 --> 01:51:28,827 Speaker 28: for a long time Because i've had to work with 2242 01:51:29,467 --> 01:51:33,627 Speaker 28: many generations. Appearance but for every new, parent they're a new. 2243 01:51:33,747 --> 01:51:36,347 Speaker 28: Parent it's their first time and they don't. 2244 01:51:36,227 --> 01:51:38,427 Speaker 9: Know what to. Expect and you, know it's beautiful to 2245 01:51:38,507 --> 01:51:39,027 Speaker 9: see a lot of. 2246 01:51:39,067 --> 01:51:42,747 Speaker 28: SPORTS a lot of organizations are investing more and more 2247 01:51:42,787 --> 01:51:46,947 Speaker 28: time and resources into educating, parents AND i think their 2248 01:51:47,027 --> 01:51:50,307 Speaker 28: investment will come back to them many times. Over so 2249 01:51:50,427 --> 01:51:53,427 Speaker 28: what is the best way then to educate and include 2250 01:51:53,507 --> 01:51:56,387 Speaker 28: parents and turn them into this brilliant phrase THAT i 2251 01:51:56,507 --> 01:52:00,547 Speaker 28: read from, you turn them into informed. Allies, well the 2252 01:52:00,627 --> 01:52:04,267 Speaker 28: first thing is right from the, Start right from the, 2253 01:52:04,387 --> 01:52:06,987 Speaker 28: start when a parent wore in with a. 2254 01:52:07,107 --> 01:52:10,747 Speaker 9: Child be really clear on your expectations as a club 2255 01:52:11,347 --> 01:52:11,747 Speaker 9: or as a. 2256 01:52:11,787 --> 01:52:13,947 Speaker 28: Coach because you know WHAT i find by a lot 2257 01:52:13,987 --> 01:52:17,347 Speaker 28: of clubs and, coaches they almost ignore this. Issue they go, 2258 01:52:17,547 --> 01:52:20,107 Speaker 28: right all we really care about is getting your child in, 2259 01:52:20,267 --> 01:52:23,387 Speaker 28: here getting the football boots on, them and getting them 2260 01:52:23,427 --> 01:52:28,627 Speaker 28: out on the. Park and then we're overly reactive when 2261 01:52:28,667 --> 01:52:31,387 Speaker 28: the parent does or says things that we don't. Like 2262 01:52:31,987 --> 01:52:34,427 Speaker 28: get on the front foot right from the. Start have 2263 01:52:35,027 --> 01:52:38,067 Speaker 28: a parent's booklet to, say welcome to our. Club we're 2264 01:52:38,227 --> 01:52:41,307 Speaker 28: so happy That susie's come along to our netball. 2265 01:52:41,347 --> 01:52:44,987 Speaker 9: Club we really value having her, here but we value 2266 01:52:45,027 --> 01:52:48,467 Speaker 9: you as. Well here's our parent's guide To sporting. Success 2267 01:52:49,107 --> 01:52:49,747 Speaker 9: and then you. 2268 01:52:49,867 --> 01:52:52,427 Speaker 28: Open the page and it says, welcome we love having you. 2269 01:52:52,547 --> 01:52:56,427 Speaker 28: Here next page says three things that every parent needs 2270 01:52:56,467 --> 01:52:56,707 Speaker 28: to do a. 2271 01:52:56,787 --> 01:53:00,107 Speaker 9: Sport, one have a great time to work with the. 2272 01:53:00,227 --> 01:53:01,467 Speaker 9: Coach we're all part of the same. 2273 01:53:01,627 --> 01:53:05,507 Speaker 28: Team and three work with the other parents and former 2274 01:53:05,627 --> 01:53:08,507 Speaker 28: a group of that stands with the kids. 2275 01:53:08,947 --> 01:53:10,187 Speaker 9: Constantly something like. 2276 01:53:10,307 --> 01:53:14,227 Speaker 28: THAT a, workbook a, guidebook a handout you give the, 2277 01:53:14,307 --> 01:53:16,587 Speaker 28: Parents so be clear right from the word. 2278 01:53:16,667 --> 01:53:18,627 Speaker 9: Go the second thing is very. 2279 01:53:18,667 --> 01:53:21,427 Speaker 28: Important pint HERE i say to every, club have a 2280 01:53:21,627 --> 01:53:22,907 Speaker 28: parent's support. 2281 01:53:23,027 --> 01:53:25,547 Speaker 9: Group have two or three parents. 2282 01:53:25,187 --> 01:53:28,427 Speaker 28: Whose job it is to go to all the newbies and, say, 2283 01:53:28,467 --> 01:53:31,067 Speaker 28: hey it's great that you're. Here we know that this 2284 01:53:31,267 --> 01:53:33,747 Speaker 28: is the first child you've ever had in. Basketball, listen 2285 01:53:33,827 --> 01:53:35,907 Speaker 28: we've been around for a. While these are some of 2286 01:53:35,947 --> 01:53:38,827 Speaker 28: the things that we've learned and some of the things 2287 01:53:38,867 --> 01:53:41,267 Speaker 28: that will help you enjoy your journey as a basketball 2288 01:53:41,787 --> 01:53:45,667 Speaker 28: parent or a football. Parent even, more that parents support. 2289 01:53:45,747 --> 01:53:49,747 Speaker 28: Group parents supporting other parents is a very powerful thing to. 2290 01:53:49,827 --> 01:53:53,187 Speaker 28: Happen and because they, go, well hang, on someone gets. 2291 01:53:53,307 --> 01:53:56,507 Speaker 28: Me the coach doesn't really want me around that. Much but, 2292 01:53:56,667 --> 01:54:00,667 Speaker 28: hey this group of former of, parents they know exactly 2293 01:54:00,747 --> 01:54:03,427 Speaker 28: What i'm going. Through they understand How i'm, feeling And 2294 01:54:03,547 --> 01:54:06,467 Speaker 28: i'll listen to. Them that's such an important. Thing and 2295 01:54:06,547 --> 01:54:10,387 Speaker 28: the third thing is have a system where if there's 2296 01:54:10,427 --> 01:54:13,267 Speaker 28: a parent problem that's of merging in your club or your, 2297 01:54:13,307 --> 01:54:15,907 Speaker 28: program where you can sit down and have a coss 2298 01:54:16,227 --> 01:54:18,147 Speaker 28: or you can meet with, them or you have the 2299 01:54:18,227 --> 01:54:21,227 Speaker 28: club president act as a. MEDIATOR i think way too 2300 01:54:21,267 --> 01:54:24,707 Speaker 28: many coaches go that parent's a. PROBLEM i don't want them, 2301 01:54:24,747 --> 01:54:27,547 Speaker 28: here and that's not good for the. Kid it's not 2302 01:54:27,667 --> 01:54:30,907 Speaker 28: good for the. Club it's not good for anybody just saying, 2303 01:54:31,147 --> 01:54:31,707 Speaker 28: no we. 2304 01:54:31,747 --> 01:54:32,627 Speaker 9: Don't want the parents on. 2305 01:54:32,747 --> 01:54:35,587 Speaker 28: Deck there's a total parent ban BECAUSE i don't like 2306 01:54:35,707 --> 01:54:37,027 Speaker 28: the way they did this or said. 2307 01:54:37,067 --> 01:54:41,867 Speaker 3: That are there any circumstances or parts of the sporting 2308 01:54:41,987 --> 01:54:44,987 Speaker 3: journey or parts of the sporting week leading into the 2309 01:54:45,027 --> 01:54:50,307 Speaker 3: weekends game where parents should be, excluded should be you, 2310 01:54:50,387 --> 01:54:53,867 Speaker 3: know shouldn't be, Included, Wayne not THAT. 2311 01:54:53,987 --> 01:54:55,027 Speaker 9: I can see, Really. 2312 01:54:55,107 --> 01:54:57,987 Speaker 28: PINY i think one of the, again the issue is 2313 01:54:58,067 --> 01:55:02,827 Speaker 28: always around, clarity clarity of roles and. Responsibility the model 2314 01:55:02,867 --> 01:55:05,027 Speaker 28: That i've believed in for a long long time is 2315 01:55:05,147 --> 01:55:09,027 Speaker 28: that imagine in that the potential of the, child and 2316 01:55:09,147 --> 01:55:11,787 Speaker 28: that's potential as a human being for happiness and, joy 2317 01:55:12,387 --> 01:55:13,467 Speaker 28: potential is them. 2318 01:55:13,347 --> 01:55:15,867 Speaker 9: To be all that they choose to be and athletic. 2319 01:55:15,947 --> 01:55:18,987 Speaker 9: Potential imagine that that's the product. 2320 01:55:18,667 --> 01:55:21,347 Speaker 28: That we want at the, end a happy joy for 2321 01:55:22,267 --> 01:55:25,307 Speaker 28: child who's expressed everything they can and feel safe and 2322 01:55:25,467 --> 01:55:28,187 Speaker 28: that they belong and they're being all that they can. 2323 01:55:28,187 --> 01:55:30,427 Speaker 9: Be in that. Sport so that's what we want is the. 2324 01:55:30,467 --> 01:55:35,347 Speaker 28: Output we then form a partnership to create that of the, 2325 01:55:35,467 --> 01:55:38,747 Speaker 28: coach the, parent and the, athlete and the three of 2326 01:55:38,827 --> 01:55:39,107 Speaker 28: us we. 2327 01:55:39,227 --> 01:55:40,747 Speaker 9: Do our jobs like you would in any. 2328 01:55:41,027 --> 01:55:43,987 Speaker 28: Partnership you, know with your, show you've got your on, 2329 01:55:45,267 --> 01:55:48,467 Speaker 28: radio you do the background, work you do the, research 2330 01:55:48,947 --> 01:55:50,827 Speaker 28: you do all that. Stuff but you've got somebody who's 2331 01:55:50,827 --> 01:55:52,467 Speaker 28: doing some of the technical word for, it and you've 2332 01:55:52,467 --> 01:55:55,547 Speaker 28: got a promotions group and everyone does their job to 2333 01:55:55,667 --> 01:55:56,667 Speaker 28: produce a great. 2334 01:55:56,507 --> 01:55:57,147 Speaker 9: Program on the. 2335 01:55:57,227 --> 01:56:00,147 Speaker 28: Weekends it's the same with this that you know what 2336 01:56:00,267 --> 01:56:05,707 Speaker 28: a coaches, do technical, leadership physical, training, tactics, selections all those. 2337 01:56:05,747 --> 01:56:07,307 Speaker 9: Things what are the kids? 2338 01:56:07,387 --> 01:56:09,787 Speaker 28: Do we want them to come and have, fun, learn 2339 01:56:10,147 --> 01:56:12,387 Speaker 28: enjoy the, experience and come. Back what do we want 2340 01:56:12,467 --> 01:56:14,507 Speaker 28: parents to. Do we don't want them to do those 2341 01:56:14,627 --> 01:56:19,307 Speaker 28: other two. Things we want them to unconditional, love value and. 2342 01:56:19,387 --> 01:56:21,627 Speaker 28: Support we want them to bring the kids on. Time 2343 01:56:22,347 --> 01:56:25,067 Speaker 28: we want them to love them irrespective of success or. 2344 01:56:25,147 --> 01:56:28,907 Speaker 28: Failure where you, KNOW i think again this clarity of 2345 01:56:28,987 --> 01:56:31,147 Speaker 28: saying to a, parent this is what we need you to, 2346 01:56:31,187 --> 01:56:33,747 Speaker 28: do and if you do these, things we're confident that 2347 01:56:33,867 --> 01:56:36,867 Speaker 28: your child will have a wonderful journey through sport and 2348 01:56:36,947 --> 01:56:41,787 Speaker 28: they'll realize their potential because of your. Contribution and that 2349 01:56:42,027 --> 01:56:45,507 Speaker 28: clarity of roles and responsibilities is so, important. 2350 01:56:45,907 --> 01:56:48,307 Speaker 3: And that probably answers another Question i've got, here and 2351 01:56:48,347 --> 01:56:51,547 Speaker 3: that's around how kids get into particular, sports because often 2352 01:56:51,827 --> 01:56:54,027 Speaker 3: the whole play sports that their parents have, played you, 2353 01:56:54,107 --> 01:56:57,507 Speaker 3: know and often to a decent. Level you, know if 2354 01:56:57,547 --> 01:57:00,187 Speaker 3: an adult is a decent, basketballer they might want to 2355 01:57:00,267 --> 01:57:03,027 Speaker 3: introduce their son or daughter to basketball because they know 2356 01:57:03,467 --> 01:57:05,947 Speaker 3: the joy and the fulfillment they got out of. It 2357 01:57:06,067 --> 01:57:08,787 Speaker 3: so what's the best way of dealing with a parent or, 2358 01:57:08,827 --> 01:57:10,427 Speaker 3: actually flipp, it what's the best way to be a 2359 01:57:10,547 --> 01:57:13,707 Speaker 3: parent who's played a sport to make sure that your 2360 01:57:13,787 --> 01:57:18,147 Speaker 3: own child gets the benefit of coaching without you overstepping 2361 01:57:18,227 --> 01:57:20,107 Speaker 3: if you get What i'm, Asking, OH i. 2362 01:57:20,227 --> 01:57:24,147 Speaker 28: Do but how tempting has it been for everybody involved in, 2363 01:57:24,267 --> 01:57:28,147 Speaker 28: sport everybody who's played, sport because you, know you've got 2364 01:57:28,267 --> 01:57:31,387 Speaker 28: that connection with the, sport and you know what a 2365 01:57:31,467 --> 01:57:34,707 Speaker 28: wonderful sport yours could, be yours, is and you. 2366 01:57:34,787 --> 01:57:36,787 Speaker 9: Want nothing more than to share that with your. 2367 01:57:36,867 --> 01:57:40,227 Speaker 28: Child so your child's playing, soccer your child's playing, football 2368 01:57:40,747 --> 01:57:45,387 Speaker 28: and you can't avoid the. Temptation you just can't resist, saying, 2369 01:57:45,787 --> 01:57:47,987 Speaker 28: well WHEN i used to, play you know what we 2370 01:57:48,227 --> 01:57:51,027 Speaker 28: used to, do AND i don't know how many, birds you? 2371 01:57:51,107 --> 01:57:52,787 Speaker 9: Know, again there's nothing wrong with. 2372 01:57:52,907 --> 01:57:56,667 Speaker 28: That their parents are just sharing the joy and the 2373 01:57:56,747 --> 01:57:59,947 Speaker 28: love they feel for the. Sport that's most important to. Do, 2374 01:58:00,467 --> 01:58:03,547 Speaker 28: however OS a say to, Parents you've got to draw a. 2375 01:58:03,747 --> 01:58:06,507 Speaker 28: Line you've got to draw a, line which is the 2376 01:58:06,707 --> 01:58:09,867 Speaker 28: enthusiic and passionate sharing of the way you feel about 2377 01:58:09,907 --> 01:58:12,907 Speaker 28: your sport with your, job but allowing them to have 2378 01:58:13,067 --> 01:58:16,627 Speaker 28: their own experience with the. Sport and believe, me if 2379 01:58:16,787 --> 01:58:19,947 Speaker 28: kids want your opinion and if they want your, input 2380 01:58:20,467 --> 01:58:23,987 Speaker 28: they'll ask for. It and, look one of the big Dangers, 2381 01:58:23,987 --> 01:58:26,747 Speaker 28: PINEY i think younger, kids it's not such a big. 2382 01:58:26,827 --> 01:58:29,747 Speaker 28: Deal if you like bike riding and you like to 2383 01:58:29,827 --> 01:58:31,467 Speaker 28: go out and bike riding and you think it's the 2384 01:58:31,507 --> 01:58:33,947 Speaker 28: greatest thing of all. Time the kids will sense you 2385 01:58:34,027 --> 01:58:36,907 Speaker 28: all passion and your. Enthusiasm that'll rub off on. Them 2386 01:58:36,947 --> 01:58:37,547 Speaker 28: they'll probably do. 2387 01:58:37,627 --> 01:58:39,827 Speaker 9: It where you've got to be really careful with this 2388 01:58:40,507 --> 01:58:44,547 Speaker 9: is mid, teens because all of us are wired to. 2389 01:58:44,787 --> 01:58:48,107 Speaker 28: Rebel and the more that mum and dad tell me 2390 01:58:48,187 --> 01:58:50,667 Speaker 28: about how good their sport, is and the more mum 2391 01:58:50,747 --> 01:58:52,747 Speaker 28: and dad try to coach me to get better at their, 2392 01:58:52,827 --> 01:58:55,267 Speaker 28: sport the least likely it is That i'm going to 2393 01:58:55,307 --> 01:58:57,627 Speaker 28: do it BECAUSE i want to do the exact opposite 2394 01:58:58,107 --> 01:59:00,027 Speaker 28: of what they're telling me to. Do they want to 2395 01:59:00,027 --> 01:59:03,027 Speaker 28: stop me from going out and experiencing. Life they're the 2396 01:59:03,107 --> 01:59:05,547 Speaker 28: ones telling me to go to bed on. Time anything 2397 01:59:05,667 --> 01:59:08,107 Speaker 28: they tell me is probably. Wrong so they're going to 2398 01:59:08,147 --> 01:59:09,907 Speaker 28: try and coach me how to be better at. SWIMMING 2399 01:59:10,347 --> 01:59:12,067 Speaker 28: i ain't going to listen to, them and in, FACT 2400 01:59:12,147 --> 01:59:14,747 Speaker 28: i might leave the sport to save them being in 2401 01:59:14,827 --> 01:59:18,427 Speaker 28: my face. Constantly if you've got, parents if you've got 2402 01:59:18,587 --> 01:59:21,987 Speaker 28: kids who are in their, teens be very very careful 2403 01:59:22,267 --> 01:59:26,427 Speaker 28: about giving them too much, information too much, education and 2404 01:59:26,587 --> 01:59:29,747 Speaker 28: too much of what you think is important in their, 2405 01:59:29,827 --> 01:59:32,387 Speaker 28: teens because it's Likely i've pushed back the other. 2406 01:59:32,467 --> 01:59:36,147 Speaker 3: Way great advice and, wisdom as always from, you weigh 2407 01:59:36,707 --> 01:59:39,027 Speaker 3: lots to take. Away just before you, go SOMETHING i 2408 01:59:39,067 --> 01:59:40,787 Speaker 3: want to talk about with you in a future segment 2409 01:59:40,947 --> 01:59:43,947 Speaker 3: is the subject of your new, book which is Called 2410 01:59:43,987 --> 01:59:47,907 Speaker 3: The Talent Myth why Talent isn't Worth i'll say, shite 2411 01:59:47,987 --> 01:59:51,347 Speaker 3: but it's a slightly different version of that available. Now that. 2412 01:59:51,427 --> 01:59:52,947 Speaker 3: BOOK i do want to talk about, it AS i, 2413 01:59:52,987 --> 01:59:56,347 Speaker 3: say with you in a future. Segment but this is 2414 01:59:56,387 --> 02:00:00,507 Speaker 3: your latest latest piece of. Literature, yes it. 2415 02:00:00,587 --> 02:00:03,787 Speaker 28: Doesn't it came from a young fellow THAT i was 2416 02:00:03,867 --> 02:00:07,227 Speaker 28: talking to about a year. Ago he we'd been dropped 2417 02:00:07,227 --> 02:00:11,627 Speaker 28: from the school, team and the school teacher who dropped 2418 02:00:11,707 --> 02:00:14,987 Speaker 28: him said that you're being dropped because you're just not 2419 02:00:15,227 --> 02:00:16,427 Speaker 28: talented enough to make the. 2420 02:00:16,547 --> 02:00:19,027 Speaker 9: Team AND i thought about it, Deeply. 2421 02:00:19,147 --> 02:00:22,707 Speaker 28: PINEY i, thought how many other kids have been told 2422 02:00:22,907 --> 02:00:25,667 Speaker 28: you're not good enough or you're not talented enough for 2423 02:00:26,267 --> 02:00:28,947 Speaker 28: you're never going to make? It then, YOU i, mean 2424 02:00:28,987 --> 02:00:32,507 Speaker 28: you meet some pretty Impressive New zealand, athletes you, know 2425 02:00:32,667 --> 02:00:36,547 Speaker 28: all blacks and, ferns and you know a lot of 2426 02:00:36,627 --> 02:00:41,547 Speaker 28: them you wouldn't technically classify as super, talented but they 2427 02:00:41,707 --> 02:00:44,147 Speaker 28: just love playing the game and they're good, people and 2428 02:00:44,747 --> 02:00:46,867 Speaker 28: they try hard and they give everything to. 2429 02:00:46,987 --> 02:00:50,107 Speaker 9: It AND i, thought hang on a, minute this talent, 2430 02:00:50,267 --> 02:00:52,147 Speaker 9: Thing we've got this completely. 2431 02:00:52,267 --> 02:00:55,907 Speaker 28: Wrong we're saying the, kids if you're Not Roger, frederer 2432 02:00:56,107 --> 02:00:58,987 Speaker 28: well you shouldn't be playing. Tennis it's like, saying you, 2433 02:00:59,067 --> 02:01:01,587 Speaker 28: know if you can't play Like, mozart well don't sit 2434 02:01:01,627 --> 02:01:04,587 Speaker 28: behind a. Piano if you're if you're Not, pericaso you're 2435 02:01:04,587 --> 02:01:06,707 Speaker 28: never going to be as good As. Pocasso don't pick 2436 02:01:06,787 --> 02:01:10,147 Speaker 28: up a. Paintbrush it's. Ludicrous SO i, Thought i'm going 2437 02:01:10,187 --> 02:01:13,227 Speaker 28: to sit down and write a book that says more than, 2438 02:01:13,267 --> 02:01:16,307 Speaker 28: anything to give hope to everyone who's ever been. 2439 02:01:16,307 --> 02:01:19,187 Speaker 9: Told you're not good, enough you're not telling it, enough 2440 02:01:19,307 --> 02:01:20,067 Speaker 9: you don't have what it. 2441 02:01:20,187 --> 02:01:22,787 Speaker 28: Takes And, LORD i really hope it's going to make 2442 02:01:22,787 --> 02:01:26,267 Speaker 28: an impact on kids and parents and coaches and, teachers 2443 02:01:26,347 --> 02:01:29,067 Speaker 28: and above, all it'll get us thinking that talent. 2444 02:01:28,907 --> 02:01:31,627 Speaker 9: Is so much more than being big and strong and. 2445 02:01:31,747 --> 02:01:34,387 Speaker 3: Fast love. It look forward to chatting about that in 2446 02:01:34,427 --> 02:01:38,187 Speaker 3: a future. Segment but it's available On amazon right. Now as, 2447 02:01:38,227 --> 02:01:41,547 Speaker 3: always appreciate your, time your, wisdom your. Expertise wayne will 2448 02:01:41,587 --> 02:01:42,147 Speaker 3: catch up again. 2449 02:01:42,227 --> 02:01:44,347 Speaker 9: Soon always a, pleasure my, Friend always a. 2450 02:01:44,387 --> 02:01:46,787 Speaker 3: Pleasure it's always a pleasure talking to, You, Wayne Wayne 2451 02:01:46,947 --> 02:01:49,667 Speaker 3: goldsmith there you, can, yeah look for his new book On, 2452 02:01:49,707 --> 02:01:53,267 Speaker 3: amazon Just Wayne goldsmith and it'll turn. Up The warrior 2453 02:01:53,387 --> 02:01:55,987 Speaker 3: is still ahead eight and zil against The Paramount. Eels 2454 02:01:56,027 --> 02:01:57,867 Speaker 3: it's a pretty tight. Affair that's one in the early 2455 02:01:57,947 --> 02:01:59,747 Speaker 3: game of go, media The warrior is mean to follow 2456 02:01:59,787 --> 02:02:02,867 Speaker 3: against The Waist, tigers and in the softball well, yell 2457 02:02:02,907 --> 02:02:04,907 Speaker 3: the mat a really hot start Against, japan four runs 2458 02:02:04,947 --> 02:02:07,547 Speaker 3: and their first. Inning japan have pulled one. Back it's 2459 02:02:07,627 --> 02:02:10,147 Speaker 3: four to, one bottom of the first As New zealand 2460 02:02:10,187 --> 02:02:12,707 Speaker 3: look to make the gold medal match at The Softball 2461 02:02:12,747 --> 02:02:15,307 Speaker 3: World cup In. Canada eight to Three News TALK. Sib 2462 02:02:16,187 --> 02:02:17,067 Speaker 3: when it's down. 2463 02:02:16,907 --> 02:02:21,227 Speaker 2: To the, line you made a call on Eight Weekend 2464 02:02:21,307 --> 02:02:23,347 Speaker 2: sports With jason Pine News. 2465 02:02:23,227 --> 02:02:25,867 Speaker 3: TALKS eb coming up five to. Three that is us 2466 02:02:26,147 --> 02:02:28,947 Speaker 3: On Weekend sport for. Today Tim beverage is with you 2467 02:02:29,107 --> 02:02:32,747 Speaker 3: after three o'clock for the Weekend. Collective just a quick 2468 02:02:32,787 --> 02:02:35,787 Speaker 3: word about next. Weekend we're In hamilton For test Three 2469 02:02:36,107 --> 02:02:39,627 Speaker 3: all Blacksb Front saturday's. Show we'll come to you from 2470 02:02:39,667 --> 02:02:42,667 Speaker 3: The Roaming. Giant those of you in the tron may 2471 02:02:42,787 --> 02:02:44,747 Speaker 3: know it would love to have you join us between 2472 02:02:44,787 --> 02:02:48,467 Speaker 3: midday and three Next. Saturday huge thanks To anny McDonald's 2473 02:02:48,467 --> 02:02:51,987 Speaker 3: always for pulling both weekend sports shows. Together enjoy our 2474 02:02:51,987 --> 02:02:55,467 Speaker 3: relaxing afternoon. Mate we'll see you tomorrow night On Sports 2475 02:02:55,547 --> 02:02:58,187 Speaker 3: talk as we break down everything that's happened over the, 2476 02:02:58,227 --> 02:03:02,187 Speaker 3: weekend Including piney's power, rankings rating the, beast the worst 2477 02:03:02,227 --> 02:03:03,947 Speaker 3: and the in between from The Sporting. Weekend we do 2478 02:03:04,027 --> 02:03:07,947 Speaker 3: that Every monday. Night taking us out. Today, well the 2479 02:03:08,027 --> 02:03:10,827 Speaker 3: fact That fiji had a good one Over scotland And. 2480 02:03:10,987 --> 02:03:14,547 Speaker 3: Suba and the fact That Tamothi tava Tavannah wai last 2481 02:03:14,587 --> 02:03:17,987 Speaker 3: night became the Tenth fiji and born player to play 2482 02:03:18,027 --> 02:03:20,787 Speaker 3: for The All. Blacks those two things mean That i've 2483 02:03:20,787 --> 02:03:23,187 Speaker 3: gone for this one from good. Shirt this Is fiji 2484 02:03:23,347 --> 02:03:25,147 Speaker 3: baby taking this out see him, right. 2485 02:03:39,467 --> 02:03:45,507 Speaker 6: Supcoming Now it's not of the smells Catcher many and. 2486 02:03:48,347 --> 02:03:48,987 Speaker 2: That's FOR. 2487 02:03:50,787 --> 02:03:52,907 Speaker 17: Su game. 2488 02:03:54,507 --> 02:03:56,067 Speaker 2: Scom on, now. 2489 02:03:56,387 --> 02:04:10,547 Speaker 3: It's not a really smells Catcher, many that's far lessays. 2490 02:04:17,107 --> 02:04:19,147 Speaker 2: For more From Weekends sport With Jason. 2491 02:04:19,227 --> 02:04:22,387 Speaker 1: Fine listen live To News talks IT b weekends from, 2492 02:04:22,507 --> 02:04:25,267 Speaker 1: midday or follow the podcast On iHeartRadio