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Speaker 2: Time's say good morning to Murray Old's today Murray, Hey
Speaker 2: you goun good.
Speaker 3: That Tim, Very good morning on this z Anzac day. Yes,
Speaker 3: pretty good over here. Thanks wet day and Sydney wet
Speaker 3: day and a few other capitals as well. But still
Speaker 3: a very strong dawn service, big turn out right around
Speaker 3: the country today. There's going to be literally hundreds of
Speaker 3: thousands of people who'll be honoring the ANZACs today.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you manage to get along to these? Are
Speaker 2: you sort of they keeping out of mischief on radio?
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm working this morning. I've been to a lot.
Speaker 3: I've been to many many of these dawn services. I've
Speaker 3: been to Anzac Cove a couple of times, been several
Speaker 3: times at the Western Front as well. And it is look,
Speaker 3: every year is extremely moving. As you might expect that
Speaker 3: one hundred and ten years ago this morning that the
Speaker 3: Australians and New Zealanders charged ashore at Gallipoli. And only
Speaker 3: a few years ago, you know, it wasn't a big
Speaker 3: deal over here. I mean, crowds were dwindling it wasn't
Speaker 3: regarded as a very significant event, a very important day.
Speaker 3: That is completely turned around now and there are very
Speaker 3: very big crowds. I mean, the numbers of veterans are
Speaker 3: diminishing as no one left from the First War. Of course,
Speaker 3: the numbers of Second War Second World War veterans is
Speaker 3: diminishing every year as well. Ten interesting today you've got
Speaker 3: the Brumbies and the Wellington Hurricanes are playing in the
Speaker 3: Super Rugby comp in Canberra, which of course is the
Speaker 3: center of commemorations today at the National War Memorial, and
Speaker 3: those two teams are playing for the Alfred Shout Cup.
Speaker 3: And Shout was a young man from Wellington who went
Speaker 3: off to fight at the Boer War in South Africa,
Speaker 3: stayed on and met his wife to be, was a
Speaker 3: Sydney girl. They had a child and came back to Sydney.
Speaker 3: Shout volunteered in nineteen fourteen when the First World War
Speaker 3: began and he died at Lone Pine in Gallipoli two
Speaker 3: days three days after his thirty third birthday. He was
Speaker 3: awarded the Victoria Cross for Conspicuous Gallantry, one of seven
Speaker 3: vcs awarded to Australians, because he was fighting for the
Speaker 3: Australian Army. At this point he was still a Kiwi
Speaker 3: and all these years later he is being honored with
Speaker 3: this cup and I think that just really sums up
Speaker 3: in so many ways what this day means to Australian
Speaker 3: and New Zealand. You know, a Kiwi guy from Wellingcaon
Speaker 3: who fought with the Australian Army was killed at Gallipoli
Speaker 3: and he's remembered at this very day in the Alfred
Speaker 3: Shout Cup. Alfred Shout, by the way, the most decorated
Speaker 3: Australian soldier at Gallipoli, mentioned in Dispatches of Military Cross
Speaker 3: and the Victoria Cross.
Speaker 2: I think it's great, isn't it How younger people are
Speaker 2: really embracing this and you see kids, grandkids wearing their
Speaker 2: granddad's medals and things like that. I mean, it's difficult
Speaker 2: to keep a dry eye during one of the ceremonies
Speaker 2: when you you know, when you reflect on our industries
Speaker 2: and stuff, it's just, yeah.
Speaker 3: It isn't that exactly right? You get goosebumps. These these
Speaker 3: little boys and girls sort of about under the weight
Speaker 3: of granddad's medals, and you think, bloody hell, that's really
Speaker 3: really important to have this. You know, this tradition carried
Speaker 3: on in a way now that just wasn't even conceivable
Speaker 3: only a few years ago. Twenty thirty years ago, no
Speaker 3: one gave a rats were not quite but certainly nothing
Speaker 3: like nothing like we see today. It's going to be
Speaker 3: a huge day in Australia. Yeah, I do say it.
Speaker 3: RSLs right across New Zealand. The laws of the old fellows,
Speaker 3: old ladies and young people as well getting together and
Speaker 3: marking this.
Speaker 2: Very important were doing a roaring trade.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And on on on defense issues, a shadow Defense minist
Speaker 2: is highlighting the importance of an alliance with the US
Speaker 2: amid all these global tensions.
Speaker 3: Absolutely right. His name is Andrew Hasty and he's probably
Speaker 3: one of the people who will be in line if
Speaker 3: the Coalition loses the next elect which is on tomorrow week.
Speaker 3: Andrew Hasty might very well step up and be the
Speaker 3: new leader because I can't see Peter Dutton surviving if
Speaker 3: they lose. Andrew Hasty himself, as you say, shadow Defense Minister,
Speaker 3: he was in the Special Air Service the SAS, and
Speaker 3: he served in Afghanistan. He knows the business end of
Speaker 3: a weapon and he's made the very important point we
Speaker 3: can't rely on the United States anymore under Donald Trump. Yes,
Speaker 3: we have a very strong relationship with you know, our oldest, well,
Speaker 3: our strongest ally, but certainly in this part of the world,
Speaker 3: there's no one stronger than the United States. But he's
Speaker 3: made the point we cannot rely on that. It's no
Speaker 3: longer reliable under the stewardship of the current president. We
Speaker 3: have to stand in our own two feet. And you know,
Speaker 3: the opposition wheeled out its defense policy in the last
Speaker 3: forty eight hours, but you know, hand on heart, it's
Speaker 3: pretty incoherent. It looks like it's been knocked together on
Speaker 3: the run in a campaign, like so much of this
Speaker 3: campaign for the opposition has been knocked together. They've had
Speaker 3: three years to get ready for this. They know, they
Speaker 3: knew when the election was going to be called, and
Speaker 3: they just look completely completely out of their depth. They
Speaker 3: sort of drowning so hasty stepping up. It will not
Speaker 3: have been lost on his colleagues that this guy actually
Speaker 3: looks and sounds pretty good. Is it all over?
Speaker 2: Bar the shouting for it? I mean, I get the sense,
Speaker 2: you know, with the rhetoric and just how much the
Speaker 2: opposition seemed to be balling up there run towards the election.
Speaker 2: Is here much suspense.
Speaker 3: About the outcome? Mate? He said that in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 3: remember they had you know, they had a picture of
Speaker 3: five of the Labor Party heavies that were going to
Speaker 3: be taking over. Well didn't that end? Well, Scott Morrison
Speaker 3: stood up and said, I believe in miracles. That he does.
Speaker 3: He did believe in miracles. He's deeply religious, he's an
Speaker 3: evangelical Christian and he stood there on the Saturday night
Speaker 3: having won this impossible election. I believe in miracles. Labor
Speaker 3: this time round is not taking anything for granted. All
Speaker 3: the polls point to a Labor when but you know,
Speaker 3: forming minority government with the help of the Greens. Well, okay,
Speaker 3: some polls in facts and Anthony Albanezi, the Prime Minister,
Speaker 3: is saying that Tim that I'm going to win majority government.
Speaker 3: All have enough seats to govern the joint on my own,
Speaker 3: with my with my colleagues. It's that, you know, we
Speaker 3: just have to wait and see about that. I think
Speaker 3: at this point it is impossible for the coalition to
Speaker 3: win enough seats. They eat around twenty seats, nineteen seats
Speaker 3: with twenty seats, that's a big ask even for a
Speaker 3: well performing team. This bob looks like a rabble. It
Speaker 3: looked like he drunks on Payday. They just lurching from
Speaker 3: one thing to another. Honestly, hand to our heart, they do.
Speaker 3: They just lurch from one from from from one bloody
Speaker 3: crisis to another, and no one seems to know what
Speaker 3: they're doing.
Speaker 2: Well, let's not say you're calling it, but we're getting
Speaker 2: pretty close. Hey, thanks very much, Murray, good stuff, Cheers, buddy,
Speaker 2: there we go. That's that's Murray Olds.
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