WEBVTT - Murray Olds: Australian Correspondent on Andrew Hastie's US comments, election polls and Anzac Day commemorations

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<v Speaker 2>Time's say good morning to Murray Old's today Murray, Hey

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<v Speaker 2>you goun good.

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<v Speaker 3>That Tim, Very good morning on this z Anzac day. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good over here. Thanks wet day and Sydney wet

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<v Speaker 3>day and a few other capitals as well. But still

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<v Speaker 3>a very strong dawn service, big turn out right around

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<v Speaker 3>the country today. There's going to be literally hundreds of

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<v Speaker 3>thousands of people who'll be honoring the ANZACs today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Do you manage to get along to these? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you sort of they keeping out of mischief on radio?

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I'm working this morning. I've been to a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been to many many of these dawn services. I've

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<v Speaker 3>been to Anzac Cove a couple of times, been several

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<v Speaker 3>times at the Western Front as well. And it is look,

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<v Speaker 3>every year is extremely moving. As you might expect that

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and ten years ago this morning that the

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<v Speaker 3>Australians and New Zealanders charged ashore at Gallipoli. And only

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<v Speaker 3>a few years ago, you know, it wasn't a big

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<v Speaker 3>deal over here. I mean, crowds were dwindling it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>regarded as a very significant event, a very important day.

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<v Speaker 3>That is completely turned around now and there are very

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<v Speaker 3>very big crowds. I mean, the numbers of veterans are

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<v Speaker 3>diminishing as no one left from the First War. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>the numbers of Second War Second World War veterans is

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<v Speaker 3>diminishing every year as well. Ten interesting today you've got

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<v Speaker 3>the Brumbies and the Wellington Hurricanes are playing in the

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<v Speaker 3>Super Rugby comp in Canberra, which of course is the

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<v Speaker 3>center of commemorations today at the National War Memorial, and

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<v Speaker 3>those two teams are playing for the Alfred Shout Cup.

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<v Speaker 3>And Shout was a young man from Wellington who went

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<v Speaker 3>off to fight at the Boer War in South Africa,

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<v Speaker 3>stayed on and met his wife to be, was a

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<v Speaker 3>Sydney girl. They had a child and came back to Sydney.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout volunteered in nineteen fourteen when the First World War

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<v Speaker 3>began and he died at Lone Pine in Gallipoli two

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<v Speaker 3>days three days after his thirty third birthday. He was

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<v Speaker 3>awarded the Victoria Cross for Conspicuous Gallantry, one of seven

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<v Speaker 3>vcs awarded to Australians, because he was fighting for the

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<v Speaker 3>Australian Army. At this point he was still a Kiwi

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<v Speaker 3>and all these years later he is being honored with

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<v Speaker 3>this cup and I think that just really sums up

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<v Speaker 3>in so many ways what this day means to Australian

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<v Speaker 3>and New Zealand. You know, a Kiwi guy from Wellingcaon

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<v Speaker 3>who fought with the Australian Army was killed at Gallipoli

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<v Speaker 3>and he's remembered at this very day in the Alfred

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<v Speaker 3>Shout Cup. Alfred Shout, by the way, the most decorated

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<v Speaker 3>Australian soldier at Gallipoli, mentioned in Dispatches of Military Cross

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<v Speaker 3>and the Victoria Cross.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's great, isn't it How younger people are

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<v Speaker 2>really embracing this and you see kids, grandkids wearing their

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<v Speaker 2>granddad's medals and things like that. I mean, it's difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to keep a dry eye during one of the ceremonies

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<v Speaker 2>when you you know, when you reflect on our industries

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff, it's just, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It isn't that exactly right? You get goosebumps. These these

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<v Speaker 3>little boys and girls sort of about under the weight

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<v Speaker 3>of granddad's medals, and you think, bloody hell, that's really

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<v Speaker 3>really important to have this. You know, this tradition carried

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<v Speaker 3>on in a way now that just wasn't even conceivable

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<v Speaker 3>only a few years ago. Twenty thirty years ago, no

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<v Speaker 3>one gave a rats were not quite but certainly nothing

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<v Speaker 3>like nothing like we see today. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a huge day in Australia. Yeah, I do say it.

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<v Speaker 3>RSLs right across New Zealand. The laws of the old fellows,

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<v Speaker 3>old ladies and young people as well getting together and

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<v Speaker 3>marking this.

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<v Speaker 2>Very important were doing a roaring trade.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And on on on defense issues, a shadow Defense minist

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<v Speaker 2>is highlighting the importance of an alliance with the US

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<v Speaker 2>amid all these global tensions.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely right. His name is Andrew Hasty and he's probably

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<v Speaker 3>one of the people who will be in line if

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<v Speaker 3>the Coalition loses the next elect which is on tomorrow week.

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew Hasty might very well step up and be the

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<v Speaker 3>new leader because I can't see Peter Dutton surviving if

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<v Speaker 3>they lose. Andrew Hasty himself, as you say, shadow Defense Minister,

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<v Speaker 3>he was in the Special Air Service the SAS, and

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<v Speaker 3>he served in Afghanistan. He knows the business end of

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<v Speaker 3>a weapon and he's made the very important point we

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<v Speaker 3>can't rely on the United States anymore under Donald Trump. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>we have a very strong relationship with you know, our oldest, well,

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<v Speaker 3>our strongest ally, but certainly in this part of the world,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no one stronger than the United States. But he's

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<v Speaker 3>made the point we cannot rely on that. It's no

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<v Speaker 3>longer reliable under the stewardship of the current president. We

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<v Speaker 3>have to stand in our own two feet. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the opposition wheeled out its defense policy in the last

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<v Speaker 3>forty eight hours, but you know, hand on heart, it's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty incoherent. It looks like it's been knocked together on

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<v Speaker 3>the run in a campaign, like so much of this

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<v Speaker 3>campaign for the opposition has been knocked together. They've had

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<v Speaker 3>three years to get ready for this. They know, they

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<v Speaker 3>knew when the election was going to be called, and

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<v Speaker 3>they just look completely completely out of their depth. They

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<v Speaker 3>sort of drowning so hasty stepping up. It will not

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<v Speaker 3>have been lost on his colleagues that this guy actually

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<v Speaker 3>looks and sounds pretty good. Is it all over?

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<v Speaker 2>Bar the shouting for it? I mean, I get the sense,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with the rhetoric and just how much the

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<v Speaker 2>opposition seemed to be balling up there run towards the election.

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<v Speaker 2>Is here much suspense.

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<v Speaker 3>About the outcome? Mate? He said that in twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 3>remember they had you know, they had a picture of

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<v Speaker 3>five of the Labor Party heavies that were going to

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<v Speaker 3>be taking over. Well didn't that end? Well, Scott Morrison

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<v Speaker 3>stood up and said, I believe in miracles. That he does.

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<v Speaker 3>He did believe in miracles. He's deeply religious, he's an

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<v Speaker 3>evangelical Christian and he stood there on the Saturday night

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<v Speaker 3>having won this impossible election. I believe in miracles. Labor

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<v Speaker 3>this time round is not taking anything for granted. All

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<v Speaker 3>the polls point to a Labor when but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>forming minority government with the help of the Greens. Well, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>some polls in facts and Anthony Albanezi, the Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 3>is saying that Tim that I'm going to win majority government.

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<v Speaker 3>All have enough seats to govern the joint on my own,

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<v Speaker 3>with my with my colleagues. It's that, you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>just have to wait and see about that. I think

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<v Speaker 3>at this point it is impossible for the coalition to

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<v Speaker 3>win enough seats. They eat around twenty seats, nineteen seats

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<v Speaker 3>with twenty seats, that's a big ask even for a

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<v Speaker 3>well performing team. This bob looks like a rabble. It

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<v Speaker 3>looked like he drunks on Payday. They just lurching from

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<v Speaker 3>one thing to another. Honestly, hand to our heart, they do.

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<v Speaker 3>They just lurch from one from from from one bloody

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<v Speaker 3>crisis to another, and no one seems to know what

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's not say you're calling it, but we're getting

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<v Speaker 2>pretty close. Hey, thanks very much, Murray, good stuff, Cheers, buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>there we go. That's that's Murray Olds.

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