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Speaker 1: Kiota. I'm Chelsea Daniels and from the team behind the

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Speaker 1: front page the New Zealand Herald's daily news podcast, This

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Speaker 1: Is Accused the polking Horn Trial. Over the next six weeks,

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Speaker 1: in conjunction with our usual daily episodes, we'll be bringing

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Speaker 1: you regular coverage as one of the most high profile

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Speaker 1: trials of the year makes its way through the High

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Speaker 1: Court at Auckland. A warning, this podcast contains disturbing content.

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Speaker 1: Was Philip Polkinghorn reasonably calm on the morning of his

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Speaker 1: wife's death or just composed and trying to help? Was

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Speaker 1: the injury on his forehead a scratch, a graze, scrape

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Speaker 1: or a cut? How is Pauline Hannah's body found and

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Speaker 1: what injuries did she have? And why by late morning,

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Speaker 1: before a statement was even given, did police deem the

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Speaker 1: scene suspicious. Those who first attended the scene where Pauline

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Speaker 1: Hannah's body was found have given evidence On day two

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Speaker 1: of the trial of the former Auckland eye surgeon accused

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Speaker 1: of murdering his wife. Polkinghorn maintains she took her own life.

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Speaker 1: He told police she was on antidepressants, she was stressed

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Speaker 1: about her work with the then COVID vaccination roll out

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Speaker 1: she was involved in overseeing. She'd been planning a holiday,

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Speaker 1: a four We'll drive trip in the South Island with friends.

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Speaker 1: This morning's testimony painted a picture of how Polkinghorn says

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Speaker 1: he found his wife's body on the morning of April fifth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, Easter Monday, and the last time he

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Speaker 1: says he saw his wife alive. In his first police statement,

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Speaker 1: he detailed the night before, the pair had a drink

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Speaker 1: Wineglass with lipstick on it was seen by an officer.

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Speaker 1: They watched a few episodes of New Amsterdam on Netflix

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Speaker 1: together before going to bed for the night around ten pm.

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Speaker 1: Hannah had organized to go to the gym the next

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Speaker 1: day around nine am. They'd been sleeping in separate rooms.

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Speaker 1: He got up early about seven forty five to make breakfast,

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Speaker 1: tea and toast. He used another stairwell to get to

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Speaker 1: finds his wife slumped leaning forward in a chair with

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Speaker 1: it was clear Pauline Hannah was dead. She was found

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Speaker 1: in the entrance way of the home, covered with a

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Speaker 1: douvet and a pillow under her head. Saint John paramedic

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Speaker 1: Hannah Matheson was one of the first ambulance members at

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Speaker 1: the Upland Road scene. She told Brian Dickie as she

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Speaker 1: was asking him questions about the morning's events, he seemed calm.

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Speaker 2: Did he say anything about the patient, that he knew

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Speaker 3: And yeah, that she was his wife?

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Speaker 2: And how did he appear at this time when you

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Speaker 4: Him reasonably calm? Wasn't crying, didn't seem distressed, was answering

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Speaker 4: our questions appropriately. Yeah, gave full name and date of birth.

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Speaker 4: Said that the patient had depression, but was unaware of

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Speaker 2: He said the patient had depression.

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Speaker 2: Did he just say just that or did he say

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Speaker 3: But I can only recall him saying that.

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Speaker 1: She heard Polkinghorn calling Hannah's workplace to tell them she

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Speaker 2: How was he when he was on the phone talking

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Speaker 2: Did you notice anything about that?

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Speaker 4: I noticed that his demeanor change and he appeared more

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Speaker 2: Okay, could you tell that that was the deceased workplace

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Speaker 4: By saying that she couldn't come in today. I did

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Speaker 1: Defense lawyer Ron Mansfield said Matheson must have deal with

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Speaker 2: And I would have thought there's no ideal or standard

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Speaker 3: That is correct? Everyone responds differently.

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Speaker 2: Some people are broken down and can hardly speak, can

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Speaker 1: When polking Horn was asked a question, he answered at

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Speaker 1: Mansfield said, pointing out he had lost his composure during

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Speaker 1: the call with his wife's workplace. Matheson mentioned spotting a

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Speaker 1: Liam Larsen was an aut student at the time and

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Speaker 1: Roland also noticed a fresh injury on Polkinghorn's forehead and

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Speaker 1: said it looked like a graze, like pretty.

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Speaker 5: Much right in the center's forehead.

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Speaker 2: How would you describe it.

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Speaker 5: Ah, It's probably about maybe no bigger than the size

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Speaker 5: it was more like a graze than like as if

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Speaker 5: Didn't look like a deep cut or anything.

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Speaker 1: Polking Horn had told paramedics Hannah had a history of

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Speaker 1: he couldn't remember exactly which ones. Mansfield asked a Larson

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Speaker 2: Did he also provide some information regarding her general health?

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Speaker 2: Did he say she had been stressing about her work

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Speaker 5: I recall him saying something about the vaccination process and

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Speaker 2: To be fear to you if you need to check

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Speaker 2: your notes or your statement. We can, or I'll just

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Speaker 2: read it to you. See if this freshes your memory.

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Speaker 2: He mentioned that was which I mean to take as

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Speaker 1: Constable Roland was the one to take Polkinghorn's statement. He

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Speaker 5: Pauline has been on and off depressed for several years.

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Speaker 5: She takes some antidepressant medication. I'm not sure what it's called.

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Speaker 5: She has been taking it for several years. I'm not

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Speaker 5: sure she still has been taking it recently. She has

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Speaker 5: also suffered from bolimia about five years ago. She has

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Speaker 5: been taking weight reduction medication. Also, Pauline has been exhausted

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Speaker 1: He's spent nearly forty minutes with him, during which Polkinghorn

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Speaker 1: Roland told the court when the defendants spoke to others

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Speaker 5: Yes, this was yeah, so this was during the time

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Speaker 5: recall like one specific phone call, I think it was

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Speaker 5: He looked at his phone and he said, oh, this

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Speaker 2: How was he during this period?

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Speaker 5: How was he English? So? When I was talking to him,

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Speaker 2: And what about him is answering of your questions or

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Speaker 5: He was, for the most part quite fine, particularly when

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Speaker 5: I can recall asking him in detail how he discovered

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Speaker 3: To the point.

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Speaker 1: Roland detailed the moment when Polkinghorn's sun arrived at the

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Speaker 1: After Polkinghorn finished giving his statement, he read each page

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Speaker 1: and he signed them. Constable Roland handed the document over

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Speaker 5: Gave him all the papers and at that point Sergeant

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Speaker 5: Chris had written on his hand the number one in

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Speaker 1: So by late morning, officers were treating the scene as suspicious.

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Speaker 1: By that time there were questions about ligature marks around

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Speaker 1: Those marks on her neck were noticed by others as well.

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Speaker 1: Sergeant Gwilliam told the court ligature marks were noted on

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Speaker 2: He described the ligature marks as like diamond shapes, and

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Speaker 2: then that clicked very quickly in your mind that that

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Speaker 3: That there was two items theyrecreped.

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Speaker 2: And you then realized that that item should be secured.

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Speaker 3: Then I mentioned the item that there was two items.

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Speaker 3: They are correct.

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Speaker 1: The belt was mentioned by Polkinghorn in his statement as

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Speaker 1: being around his wife's neck. It had been noted as

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Speaker 2: And I think at one stage after you had seen

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Speaker 2: Dr Popenhorn coming up the stairs curling up the belt

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Speaker 2: in front of him. You were asked by the sargent

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Speaker 2: where the belt was that had been on the steps. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and you were able to tell him because you had

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Speaker 2: seen doctor Polkinghorn with the belt that you thought he

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Then you made an inquiry of Dr Polkinhorn during the

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Speaker 2: interview with Constable Rowlands and he told you that, yes,

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Speaker 2: he put the belt in the kitchen.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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