1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Bit of a surprier is moved from the government yesterday 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: just because of the timing, So an inquiry into the 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Reserve Bank's COVID money splash. You'll remember the ocr was 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: slashed to a quarter of a percent, fifty five billion 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: dollars pumped into the economy, and this was the Finance 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Minister yesterday. 7 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: The purpose of the review is to learn from experience 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: so that future shops can be navigated in the best 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: possible way. Those who don't learn the lessons of history 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: are doomed to repeat them. 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: Claire Matthews is professor Massi University Business School. Cliar, good morning, 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: good warning. It's surprised at the time. And do we 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: care about the timing. Is there more to learn? 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 3: Oh, there probably is some more to learn, but the 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: timing does seem. 16 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: Very odd because it's election here. 17 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: Because it's election year, quite frankness. They want to get 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 3: rid of the election paint. Just don't have it reporting 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: before the election. Go ahead with the review, but have 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: it reporting December February next year. Just don't have it 21 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: reporting before the election and that gets rid of that problem. 22 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: But it isn't so much of what our problems are now. 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: The genesis of them is COVID. 24 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 3: Well, I guess that's something that the review will tell us. 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: I think it's a bit simplustic to say that all 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: our problems today are due to COVID. Wh're now six 27 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 3: years past the start of COVID. There's been a lot 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 3: of other things happen in that time. It's all going 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: to be combining together to influence that. And as time 30 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: goes on, it gets very difficult to separate out what's 31 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: happening from between the different parts of it, and to 32 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: be able to say what we're experiencing now is only COVID, 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 3: I think is very simplistic. 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: Was listening to Michael Videll yesterday. He was saying, look, 35 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: your reserve bank is supposed to take into account because 36 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: obviously the government was spending like a drunken sailor. But 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: the Reserve Bank is meant to take that into account 38 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: when they're setting their rates. Right. 39 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely also got to remember that COVID was unprecedented. 40 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: It's not something that we had experienced at any recent time. 41 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: There was a lot of concern and so everybody was 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: trying to do what was seen to be best at 43 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: the time. Now in hindsight, it's fine to be able 44 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: to say, well, actually, maybe there are things that we 45 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 3: can learn, so yes, potentially there is some value in there. 46 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: Although the Reserve Bank has already done a review, it's 47 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: taken some lessons out of there. How much more are 48 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 3: we going to learn that? The timing just I'm afraid 49 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: I'm in the cynical camp. It's an election of the 50 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: employed cleared. 51 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: You know, there's so many things I want to argue 52 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: with you, argue with you about that you just said, 53 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: but I actually can't be bothered, and I think I 54 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: think probably most people will now so far on fall 55 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: into the same camp. Like you know, we kind of 56 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: know what happened. It's time to move on. But there 57 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: we go. Clear, appreciate your time this morning. Clear Matthew's professor, 58 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: Mass University Business School. 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