1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: So we're sitting in the office yesterday and just feeling flat, 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: zero motivation, but of a short fuse, then say or 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Sarah rolls in and funny enough, she says, heads up, 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: I might be a bit short today too, because I'm 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: no good in the face of a Northwester. And I 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: thought I haven't heard somebody reference that in years. But 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: of course it's something that we all sort of tend 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: to buy into life in mid Canterbury, that the Northwester. 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't just shuffle things around, but it gives us 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 1: a bit of a shake up too. Somebody who's done 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: some research on this is Professor Katie Pickles at the 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: University of Canterbury. 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: I've been interested in this for quite a while. I'm 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: sure all of us who live here, but it seems 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: that some people get really elevated and excited and energized, 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: and that's supposed to be a minority, but some people 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: get really anxious and down opposite. It seems a really 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: polarizing wind. And if some listeners will remember Neil Cherry 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: out at Lincoln, he did a lot of research on 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: this a while ago and he thought it was ions. 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: He was really scientific about it, trying to measure things. 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to ask that. I mean, what 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: is going on? Is it temperature related or pressure or 24 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: just general magic? Yeah? 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: Well I reckon general magic sounds good, doesn't it? Humidity, 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 2: humidity and pressure, because yesterday and my smart watch went 27 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: off and it was low low humidity as huh. So 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: it's a pham wind. That's just such a dry wind, 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: isn't it. It just sucks, literally sucks all the moisture. 30 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: You see it in the ground. Yeah, And I often 31 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: just fall asleep, that's my way. 32 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: You know. 33 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: It can just wears you out, doesn't It can be 34 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: exhausting or other people get completely energized. 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: Is it similar to you know, in the depths of 36 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: winter when we don't get much sun and we feel flat? 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: Then is it similar to that you recon or a 38 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: completely different mechanism. 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: Well, it's similar, isn't it, in that it's the weather. 40 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: The weather is really important in how we sense things, 41 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: in how we experience things. So I think it's similar 42 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: in that way. It's quite different too, But it's really 43 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: interesting how we're all sort of part of the environment 44 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: and how we react to it, isn't it. And in 45 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: the particular region we live Canterbury. It's our particular trademark 46 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: wind one, yeahs our signature. And so I'm more of 47 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: a cultural history and so I've been really interested in 48 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: how people think it affects them rather than how it 49 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 2: actually might be and how we name things after it, 50 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: you know, like restaurants, and so the whole culture of 51 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 2: the wind has taken on its own identity, isn't it 52 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: that changes through time? 53 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: Absolutely. It's a bit of a play here because Mama 54 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: mal every time the northwester blue, she would say, oh, 55 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, tempers are going to flare and should just 56 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: be prepared for war for lord of the flies. Do 57 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 1: you think it was sort of a self fulfilling prophecy 58 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: in a way. 59 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: I think it kind of can be birth. It's also wisdom. 60 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: It can be wisdom, you know, because my mother and 61 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: my mother in law wis from Lindhurse near Messin, and 62 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: she her sort of treatment for the wind was, and 63 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: I think this is really common, was to just block 64 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 2: it out, get rid of it straight away. Close doors, 65 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: closure windows, closure curtains, you. 66 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: Know, binker down. It's not just the trampoline that we're 67 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: tethering down it ourselves. 68 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's ourselves. That wind's just going to tear through. 69 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: And my mum was up at the Waymack Gorge and 70 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: oh it blows through the gorges. Oh goodness. Yeah again, 71 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: it's like it's going to blow you away. Literally, it's 72 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: going to blow your clothes off you. You know, it 73 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: blows the clothes off the line, but it's going to 74 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: blow them off you too, if you don't quickly cover 75 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: and get inside. Yeah, it really is ferocious, isn't it ferocious? 76 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: Do you reckon Other parts of the world have their 77 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: own grumpy winds or is it a uniquely. 78 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: It's ours. But you also do get the iconic winds 79 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: like the Chinook in Canada and there's an equivalent in 80 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: Russia as well. So it's where you get the mountains 81 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: like the Alpine Range, and where the hottier comes across, across, 82 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: rises up, and the coldier comes across, rises up, and 83 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 2: then on the other side of the mountains as we 84 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: see outside, it drops down. That's really warm and you 85 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: get that warm wind. So it's about the geography of it. 86 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 2: But Na Tahoo also I'm interesting, like everybody experiences the 87 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: sno't ma if you hear because Nitahu had a name 88 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: for it, which is probably the best name to hold 89 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: kaitangta the wind that devours humankind. 90 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: And that's so great spoken. 91 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: Is there no great tuth spoken? So it's the trends 92 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 2: cultural importance, isn't it? Of weather and how we all 93 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: experience it? To hold kaitanga to the wind that devours humankind.