1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Gavin gay Gray, as our UK correspondent, is with us 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: now even in Gavin hither had Gavin explain something to me? Right? 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: So the PM is indicated that the UK may be 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: prepared to allow its missiles to be fired from Ukraine 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: into Russia. Why has it taken so long? 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: Well, and we don't know that that is the case, 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: is what he's sort of implying by what he's saying 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: that we think he's likely to give the go ahead. 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: Of course they've been waiting all this time, letting America 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: take the lead. But whether Britain will allow its storm 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: Shadow missiles to be fired into Russia as the Americans 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: have allowed attackers to be fired now appears much more likely. 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: He was asked secure star of the Prime Minister at 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: the G twenty summit in Brazil, you know what his 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: thoughts are on that, and he said, well, I'm not 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: going to go into operation or details. You wouldn't expect 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: me to. The only winner would be put in the 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: simplest way to end this conflict is for Russia to 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: stop the aggression, and then added we will give them 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: everything they need. And people are now saying, well, that's 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: a clear indication that they are going to be given 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: the storm shadow permission to send these missiles in. But yeah, 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: it has taken a long time. Many people think he 24 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: should have acted sooner, and certainly from those on the ground, 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: it would appear that Ukraine is losing territory and losing 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: it fast. 27 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: So there must have been a reason. I mean, these 28 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: two the UK and the US is obviously withheld permission 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: for a reason, and the maybe fear of how Russia 30 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: can retaliate. But what could Russia feasibly do. 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: Well? I mean, obviously they've already suggested that the nuclear 32 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: option is there. Many people are saying, you know, everyone 33 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: looks at Vladimir Putin as quite a sort of a 34 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: leader with reason, but he's extremely emotional, many of the 35 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: experts say, near him, and that could lead to a 36 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: decision that he suddenly makes that is perhaps one you 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: might be expecting. So although that nuclear option may seem 38 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: a long long way, and boy do we all hope 39 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: it is that, I fear, yeah, there could be that. 40 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: We are already seeing though, aren't we Quite a lot 41 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: of sabotaging or attempts of sabotaging and spying from Russia 42 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: in other parts of the world, and it is a 43 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: great concern I think among particularly those who are supplying 44 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: the missiles, that he could act in a way that 45 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: quite thinky frankly, they thought would never happen. 46 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: Kevin, Look, I know it's Liam Payne's funeral today. Are 47 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: we expecting this to be something public or something quite private? 48 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: No? They are really the family really trying to keep 49 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: it small, so they're desperate that fans don't find out 50 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 2: where it is. That said, we are being told that 51 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 2: his One Direction bandmates Harry Styles, Nile Horns, Zane Mallick 52 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: and Louis Tomlinson will be there. The locations all sort 53 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: of they're trying to keep its secret. He was from 54 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: the Midlands, Wolverhampton in the UK. We believe the funeral 55 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: will be held somewhere near London in the Home Counties, 56 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: but that is all being quiet well and awake will 57 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: take place following the service. But yeah, they just don't 58 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: want so many fans to inundate the whole thing and 59 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: make it a bit of a sort of circus. I 60 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: think the family have always been very private, they were 61 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 2: always very close and obviously they're having to come to 62 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: terms of this themselves. But it does look like that. 63 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: Liam's father, Jeff, who traveled to South America to help 64 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: the authorities there identify his son and then bring the 65 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: body back to the UK, is determined to try and 66 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: keep this a private family matter. 67 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: You sort of understand why, Gvin Thanks has always appreciated 68 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: Gavin gray Ow, UK correspondent. 69 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 70 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 71 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.