1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Got some fascinating data around Auckland housing. July hotter than 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: a hot thing. Apparently, sales up nine percent from June 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: nine percent. New listing's up fourteen percent month on month. 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Now for Buffett and Thompson, they sold nine hundred and 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: fifty seven properties. Is that a lot? Yes, it's the 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: most in four years. Peter Thompson's managing director, of course, 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: and as with us, Peter morning, Yeah, good morning, Mike. 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Is this an outlier or is August going to track 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: some So we're heading towards springing a new tomorrow and 10 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: the whole world's changing. 11 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think if we take the last three to 12 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: six months, we've actually been tracking up very slightly month 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: after month, and I think there's just a little bit 14 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: more confidence coming in the real estate market. Traditionally June 15 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: and July are our slowest month's been winter, but yeah, 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: we're actually starting to see a lot more activity, which 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: is very pleasing. 18 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Can we cut through it all and have some reasons? 19 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: I mean, why would you list in the middle of 20 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: winter unless you have to? A people leaving the country. 21 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: Are they feeling bullish and trading up? What's going on? 22 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: No, we're actually starting to see see quite a lot 23 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: of first home buyers getting into the market that you know, 24 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: the average median and average sale price for Auckland have 25 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: come down just slightly over the last few months. You know, 26 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: we were originally at the beginning of the esay over 27 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: a million dollars. We're now down around about nine hundred 28 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: and ninety thousand. So we're starting to see a few 29 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: more of the first home buyers, a little bit more 30 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: activity with some of the developers, with the fast tracking 31 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: that's come in, there's a little bit more movement starting 32 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: to happen, and everything's just sort of just starting and 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: I think that's the pleasing thing. But it's all led 34 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 2: by the interest rates of course. 35 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: Okay, So if we're doing and feeling that right here 36 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: now in the depths of winter, could we feel bullish 37 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: about September, October and November. 38 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: I personally think we well, I wouldn't say bullish, but 39 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: certainly we're going to see a lot more activity. And traditionally, 40 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: you know, September October, as you say, are our better months. 41 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: When the weather comes out, we certainly start seeing the 42 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 2: higher priced properties come in. That will effect obviously the 43 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: average sale price. But you know, if you average it 44 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: out over the year, we're really basically the price is 45 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: aesthetic and the volume of properties are increasing. 46 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: And what do you what weight do you place on 47 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: the so called interest rate flow through? So allegedly you've 48 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: got a couple more cuts coming from the r but 49 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: it's not automatic into the retail end. But nevertheless, it's 50 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's putting pressure on the data. Does that 51 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: fire everything up? 52 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: It certainly does. But I think it's not just for property. 53 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: I think you know, getting money in their hands is 54 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: certainly helping with you know, the average person on the 55 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: street with every day spending. And you know, we just 56 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: got to look at what's happened in the rural market. 57 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: The farmers are happy and now we're starting to see 58 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: you know, most probably the rural in sales over the 59 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: last three or four years have been almost non existent. 60 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: But now it's doing to the activity and that's all 61 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: good signs. 62 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: I know, it's a big talking point in the industry. 63 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: If Lux and Tomorrow announced that your foreign buyers can 64 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: come back and start buying four or five million dollar houses, 65 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: how really does that affect the market? Do you think. 66 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: It won't affect It's huge and I've heard these discussions 67 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: going on and in reality that there's the protection for 68 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: the first home buy you know, the five million really 69 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: will only most probably affect say maybe Auckland and say 70 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: the Southern Lakes districts. We need to be able to 71 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: spread it through the country and they may have to 72 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: lower that that five million, but maybe they have to 73 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: add on extra for investment that they're talking about. So 74 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: a total of ten million dollars, it could be five 75 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: million in Auckland with five million investment. It could be 76 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: three million, say in Wellington with seven million investment. I 77 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: think they just need to be aware that we've got 78 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: to be able to spread some of those foreign buyers. 79 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: There's a lot of people wanting to come. I've just 80 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: come back from Singapore, for instance. It was amazing over there. 81 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: They have free trade and a combined they don't apply 82 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: to our policy. Very few Singaporeans realized that, and I 83 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: think that's a message we've actually got to get out 84 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: to them. Well. 85 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: Sid appreciate times of works Peter Thompson, who's the managing 86 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: director of course at Barfoot and Thompson. For more from 87 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: the Mic Asking Breakfast listen live to news talks it'd 88 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on 89 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio