1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: The review Until OR on a Wildlife Park and Christ 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: that has come out today and the zoo is having 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: to make a couple of changes. It was commissioned after 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: a string of complaints you remember this former staff had 5 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: regarding animal death and animal welfare. The report doesn't raise 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: any immediate concerns over the animals, but the zoo's been 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: told to strengthen its processes and not to take on 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: any new animals for at least the next six months. 9 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: Professor Ken Huey as co chair of the OR on 10 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: a Wildlife Trust Board, and he's with me this evening, 11 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: good evening, good evening. Why don't you release the full 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: reports here? 13 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: So we've released the recommendations, the full set of recommendations 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: in the animal welfare and asset management space. We haven't 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: in terms of the culture space because all of the 16 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: analysis was undertaken after a full set of interviews and 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: surveys with all of our staff, and we had guaranteed 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: them anonymity, and that's really important for us. However, we're 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: really clear on what we have to do in the 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: culture space, and now we're all so clear in the 21 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: other spaces. 22 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: What happened with the deaths the gorilla infection. What happened 23 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: with that? 24 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: So in terms of all of those animals, we've had 25 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: a report from MPI, and that report shows there is 26 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: nothing that the park could have done to prevent those deaths. Naturally, 27 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: animals do die, and in terms of some of those animals, 28 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: or at least one of them, the disease that it 29 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: contracted was so rare it had never been before reported. 30 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: So these sort of things do happen to animals. 31 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: We do have veterinary services on tap, and we're seeking 32 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: to strengthen those services going forward. 33 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: And the giraffe disticated its neck. 34 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, So accidents also happen irrespective of the best laid 35 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: plans of mice and men, and where there is a 36 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: need for corrective actions and those actions are taken. But 37 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: again that was no fault of our own. Incidents like 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: this do a care. 39 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: And what about the otter that was trapped in the 40 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: pul suction pipe. 41 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, so again, accidents happen. 42 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: What we have done is we've learned from all of 43 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: these incidents and so of others, and we've put in 44 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 2: place corrective actions. So the ottter is a really good example. 45 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 2: We're put in place of structure, and that structure hopefully 46 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: will prevent a similar incident from occurring. But fair enough, 47 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: you can never guarantee absolute certainly, I. 48 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: Don't think anyone would expect that. But one of the 49 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: issues the staff had is that you were covering these up. 50 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: When how long between deaths and public being informed about 51 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: what really happened? 52 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so we inform ourn MPI anytime there is an incident. 53 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: We do that on a regular basis, much more often 54 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 2: than annually, so the Ministry for Primary Industries is well 55 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: aware of this. We inform the public as necessary. So 56 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: just recently we fully informed the public around six deaths 57 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: of animals that have occurred at the park. They were 58 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 2: all deaths that were natural, so we're being really transparent 59 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: about this and Australia. So they occurred over a ten 60 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: year period, not over a one year. 61 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: Period, right, But how long between when the deaths occurred 62 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: and when you actually told the public that. 63 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 3: Well, it depends on what the deaths are. 64 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: We're not going to tell the public, for example, the 65 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: death of every single We've got over a thousand animals 66 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: at the park, so naturally a substantial number do die 67 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: each year, so we're not going to tell the public 68 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: about every single death. What we will do, though, is 69 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: tell the public when there is a significant death, and 70 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: we do that. 71 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: Okay, do you think some of your staff will perhaps 72 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: being a bit sensitive. 73 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: No, I don't. I'm really empathetic with the staff in 74 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: this case. I love these animals, i love nature conservation, 75 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: and I'm really concerned when an animal dies if there 76 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: is a preventative action that we could have taken. So 77 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: it's really important to have staff and we do have 78 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: them that are absolutely committed to the park. Every single 79 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: staff member is. So if they've got concerns, naturally we 80 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: want those concerns raised. What we really want to do 81 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: as we move into our future focus is seven place 82 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: systems that the staff are really confident in, that they 83 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: trust that they can upwardly report those and they know 84 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: they're going to see appropriate action. 85 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: All Right, we'll leave it. There are no more animals 86 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: at least for the next six months anyway, or on 87 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: a wildlife part that's Professor Ken Huey or on a 88 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: Wildlife Trust board coach. 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