1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Now, New Zealand Rugby has committed to Sky TV for 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: another five years. Every All Blacks match will be on Sky, 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: every NPC match and a few Fara Palmer Cup games 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: will be on TV and Z and TV and Z 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Plus free to air obviously. David Kirk's chair of New 6 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Zealand Rugby. Hey, David, Hi, Ever, do you feel like 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: you've got a good deal. 8 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we've got a We've got a good deal, 9 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: a good deal for both parties. I think it's been 10 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: you know, long long journey. Both both pardies have have 11 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: worked hard and I think we've got to a place 12 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: which works for both of us. 13 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, what what took you guys so long? Because you've 14 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: been negotiating for such a long time. 15 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is pretty complex. Is there's a 16 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: lot of new content that's come into it in the 17 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: Nation's Cup, the greatest rivalry. We've got the Women's Lions 18 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: coming to New Zealand during the next five year period 19 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: and also the Men's Lions. So there's a lot of content, 20 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: and also there's a lot of there's a lot of 21 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: platforms these days, and so you know, you need to 22 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: be negotiating, you know, cross platform as it were. So 23 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: Sky obviously the core component, but they've got their own, uh, 24 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: they've got two or three platforms as well. We've got 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: TV and Z, a range of other people who have 26 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: been involved in the process a long way, so just 27 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: you know, just a complex deal to get done. 28 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: Why have have it? Was it you who asked for 29 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: the MPC to be on TV and Z. 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: That was sort of a way. The most appropriate way 31 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: to think about that was it was a way of 32 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: breaking a bit of an impasse because Sky had got 33 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 2: to a level that they were prepared to pay, they 34 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: thought it was appropriate for them to pay, and we 35 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: weren't happy with that, and so we needed to look 36 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: for ways in which we could bridge the gap. In 37 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: One of the ways was to find a third party 38 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: that was was able to contribute financially for for some 39 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: content that that Sky was prepared to also effectively share. 40 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: So that's how we got to all ninety three of 41 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: the NPC games being broadcast on TV, inst and far 42 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: up on a Cup games and Heartland games. 43 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: Do you think that it will? I mean, because you know, 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: one of the sad things I suppose about the Super 45 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: Rugby era is that that the NPC has kind of 46 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: dropped out of favor in terms of what we're interested in. 47 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: Do you think it might lift it up again? 48 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: I think it will. I think we're very hopeful it will, 49 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: because I mean, you've got to see it to do 50 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 2: it really in a way. You know, it really helps you. 51 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 2: And if you think about club players up and down 52 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 2: across New Zealand, their next step, the thing they most 53 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: aspire to is NPC rugby and if they can and 54 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: if they can see NCP being played, they can see 55 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: the people that they've played club rugby against playing NBC 56 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: rugby on television, you know that that helps with that aspiration, 57 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: with that pathway. I certainly know that was certainly the 58 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 2: way I thought about it when I was playing. So 59 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: I think, yes, I think it'll be great to have 60 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: far more people able to look to watch MBC. 61 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: Now, those five exhibition games that are not going to 62 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: go to Sky, who do you think might buy them? 63 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: Interesting question? They're not actually exhibition games. They're following test matches. 64 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: But they're not there unannounced test matches that sit outside 65 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: the regular stuff, right. 66 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: Correct, So there's five test matches that are not part 67 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: of the domestic broadcast agreement, and we don't actually know 68 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: what those test matches are yet or where they'll be 69 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: played or against home or what time zone, but they'll 70 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: be serious test matches and well, we you know, there's 71 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: no final decision on how we would look you know, 72 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: what we would look to do with those test matches 73 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: in terms of how we make them financial. 74 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: I mean, could you sell them to Netflix in the 75 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: same way that that you know, you have the Tyson 76 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: Tyson Fury boxing match or something we. 77 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: Could sell to anyone. Yeah, and Sky certainly would be 78 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: able to We'll be able to bid for them, but 79 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: so will other global streamers, and so will we potentially 80 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: think about running them free to air. It will just 81 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: depend on what our particular you know, what we want 82 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: to get out of that, what benefits we want to 83 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: get out of those matches. 84 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, David, thank you for your time. Appreciate it so much. 85 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: It's David Kirk, New Zealand Rugby Chair. For more from 86 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to news talks. It'd 87 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.