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Speaker 1: True welcome. Like the Unknowned podcast, there's day the twenty

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Speaker 1: eight that Nobe in betweenty twenty four ruters here and

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Speaker 1: she's here as well. It's Thursday the twenty eight means

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Speaker 1: that it's Thanksgiving days. What are you thankful for? Jerry?

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Speaker 1: Good question, Mash. What am I thankful for? Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: thankful for my friends, that's nice. For my family, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm thankful for my partner, Very thankful for my partner. Actually,

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Speaker 1: really really thankful for my partner and all the things

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Speaker 1: that she does for me and my family and all

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Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. This is the studding. It's done

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Speaker 1: a little bit too positive. Now she's very good to me. Yes, no,

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Speaker 1: it's something a good situation. Where are you man? She

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Speaker 1: fills out forms for me and stuff. That's one of

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Speaker 1: the nicest things anyone could ever do. And for me

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Speaker 1: she films out forms. She fills out forms for me

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Speaker 1: so I don't have to fill out forms because I

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Speaker 1: hate filling out forms so much. She'll fill them out

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Speaker 1: for me.

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Speaker 2: Then will she present the form to you for you

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Speaker 2: to sign or does she just fake your signature?

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Speaker 3: She'll present it to me for me to sign. Okay,

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Speaker 3: present what to you the form? Oh, although she'll present

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Speaker 3: her form to doesn't fill out to patch arrival cards.

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Speaker 3: It's one thing going when you're on planes and stuff.

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Speaker 1: She sucks. It's always me that has to seem to

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Speaker 1: do that one. I hate doing that, but.

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Speaker 3: Still I reckon that might be my least favorite piece

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's an annoying one. If you don't have to

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Speaker 1: do it anymore? No, why not? You can do it online? Bullshit.

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Speaker 1: You can get your partner to do it for your online.

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Speaker 1: It's great. Well, I mean you could do it yourself online,

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Speaker 1: do you know? You get your partner to do that.

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Speaker 1: And then the other one is insurance forms and claims

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Speaker 1: and stuff. TOLSI does that for me, right, okay? And

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Speaker 1: I have to do that, which is so good. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Those nights away in hotels, she poss those bills? Oh

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Speaker 1: Going on there. Where are you, Jerry?

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Speaker 3: You spending so many nights and hotels alone? No, I

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Speaker 3: pay the bills. Do you make sure that you're paying those?

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Speaker 1: I pay the bills? Yeah, what's this? What's this one?

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Speaker 1: What's that one? That's text deductible. You get fifteen of that. Yep,

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Speaker 1: GST also contributes to your text of income. That makes

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Speaker 1: it sound like you're running some kind of service out

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Speaker 1: of there of sorts. Okay, what are you thinkful for? Reader?

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Speaker 3: I'm just thankingful for my friends and my family. Let

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Speaker 3: me my partner, all right, now, he's not he's not

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Speaker 3: thankful for us. We've got a couple of thingful for

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Speaker 3: my wife. We've got a couple of TJ. Pett and

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Speaker 3: others in here. All right, what are you thankful for?

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Speaker 1: The shot? What is that supposed to be? Because he

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Speaker 3: I'm so thankful for my family and do it for

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Speaker 1: What what come on, hot shot? What are you so

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Speaker 3: Not a lot really Actually, at the moment, ye're typical

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Speaker 1: What's happened?

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Speaker 3: Off the vapes's probably the number one issue that I'm

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Speaker 1: But that's good. Why would that be a bad thing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's good, you're not doing it. That's a positive.

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Speaker 1: You are not addicted to nicotine anymore. You are not

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Speaker 1: addicted to nicotine anymore. That is over. You haven't now

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Speaker 1: been vaping for nearly two weeks. Nearly two weeks. You

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Speaker 1: crave it. No, you don't crave it. It's a habit.

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Speaker 3: Can I just say that you're you're grateful that she's

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Speaker 1: I'm grateful for loss. That's a good I know.

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Speaker 3: grateful like an heir of you, really, isn't you? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: family a lot. Yeah, should you yeah?

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Speaker 1: Are you sure? Oh? Actually maybe no? You've asked me that, No,

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Speaker 3: I'm thankful for you, guys. I'm thankful that I have

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Speaker 3: a good job that I can come to do.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the job that you can come and to do

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Speaker 3: Well, I was going to say a job that I

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Speaker 1: My feedback, thanks, you're good at parts of it? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: You just say you're really good at it, and then

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Speaker 1: Because well that would not be true. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: the button pushing, amazing, amazing button pushing, A great timing,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's and I've worked with a few. You've

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Speaker 3: just got beautiful timing. You've got to push the buttons on.

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Speaker 3: That's what I try to tell laws exactly, is be

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Speaker 1: I am thankful for living in a country like ours. Yep,

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Speaker 1: Let's go and what you're not thankful for, Oh, hates

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get too political on it. What

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Speaker 1: Um? Watermelon? Do you know what? Actually we can go deep.

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with watermelon?

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Speaker 3: Fucking hate watermelon? Do you ruder? Do you really hate watermelon?

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Speaker 3: Nobody hates watermelon. I want to like. This is probably

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Speaker 3: I want to like watermelon.

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Speaker 2: I see people annually devouring watermelon, buy the melon, and

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Speaker 3: So you tried it every year and then at least

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Speaker 3: There's different types of melon as well. There's different types

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Speaker 3: hat big ones, small ones. Yeah, big melons and small melons.

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Speaker 1: There's I had a watermelon recently and I feel like

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Speaker 3: Oh good, because you know, I even just like her

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Speaker 3: You know, you're I've been talking about this party of

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Speaker 3: there was a watermelon on the table there. Actually, Jerry

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that would have gone down really well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't catch on that one. No, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why. Maybe that's the game that we

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Speaker 3: Oh is that why that didn't catch on? Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 3: there's a couple of people that I was targeting. Though

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Speaker 3: there's a few people. I mean Dicky Wells. He looked

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Speaker 1: My kids actually yesterday we had melon and they just

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Speaker 3: So your watermelon were you're thankful for watermelon?

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Speaker 1: Was that you that said that you're thankful form You're

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Speaker 1: not thankful for the faat You can't eat.

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Speaker 2: Watermel I don't know we're talking about things we're not

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Speaker 2: grateful for, and I said.

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Speaker 3: Fucking watermelon. I realized that that's probably not the point

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Speaker 3: of Thanksgiving. There was it to end up turning it

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Speaker 3: onto the things.

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Speaker 2: That were not not Thanksgiving, not Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm just thankful for everything, man, everything, suit,

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Speaker 1: Boys, I'm thankful for summer, and I'm really happy that

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Speaker 1: to be first of December, and I know that I

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Speaker 1: It's just such boring shit? Of course it is boring,

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Speaker 1: I'm thankful for the fact that we can always start again.

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