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Speaker 2: Hello, Great New Zealand, and welcome to mattin Tyler Full

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Speaker 2: Show Podcast number one eighty nine for the twenty second

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Speaker 2: of August twenty twenty five. I always say that's but

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Speaker 2: great show. Really fun. Really was yeah, really really fun show.

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Speaker 2: And look I dedicate this one to the Bondaga's, the

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Speaker 2: out what they are later on. But you are the

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Speaker 2: best of us and we're in this together. Okay. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So get out tonight your trash theories and let's get

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons, News Talk.

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Speaker 4: Said, be.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. Welcome into Friday show. Always

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Speaker 3: feel good on off Friday.

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Speaker 2: Get a man. Speaking of feel good, yesterday we were

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Speaker 2: running a feel good show. You were down in christ Church.

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Speaker 2: I was up here, but betwixt us we were pushing

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Speaker 2: the narrative that maybe people should stop winging so much

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Speaker 2: and we need to clear away the cobwebs as the

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Speaker 2: nation and clear the Malays, and much of the Malays

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Speaker 2: is just a product of our attitude to life. And

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Speaker 2: I came across this before in an article in the spinoff,

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Speaker 2: actually written by a very very talented New Zealander that

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Speaker 2: you may have heard of, called Bill Curtain, but he

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Speaker 2: was quoting someone else, and this is the quote from

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Speaker 2: a Bob Kerrigan, and it was the job is not

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Speaker 2: to bemoan the times, it is to create the times.

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Speaker 2: Love that, and I thought that was the epact. That's

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Speaker 2: an epic way of saying the obstacle is the way, Yes,

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Speaker 2: which you're big on. Yeah, I'm big I'm big on

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Speaker 2: whatever's happening. You know, you don't complain about it. Whatever

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Speaker 2: the economic environment is, whatever the political environment is, whatever

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Speaker 2: the environment in your family is. That is the problem.

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Speaker 2: So you hit the problem front on and you just

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Speaker 2: get on with it. Yep, it can't change it all

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Speaker 2: the way. But then before I was I was talking

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Speaker 2: about how Gandalf had summed this up very nicely to

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Speaker 2: here's this, here's this, this this very important audio from

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Speaker 2: from from Gandalf.

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Speaker 5: I wish the ring had never come to me.

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Speaker 2: I wish not that this had happened. So do all

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Speaker 2: you have to see such times. But that is not

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Speaker 2: for them to decide. All we have to decide is

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Speaker 2: wanted to do at the time of just get.

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Speaker 6: The twos.

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Speaker 3: As deep Gandalf, make that man prime minister, that is

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Speaker 3: you know I can get behind a message, right.

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Speaker 2: That, Gandalf on my eye, Gandalf the gray at that point, yeah,

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Speaker 2: what a man. Well, we have to do is decide

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Speaker 2: Good on you love, get.

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Speaker 3: On with it, cared on with that, right on to

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Speaker 3: today's show, doozy for you because it is a Friday

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Speaker 3: after three o'clock New Zealander of the Week. Plenty of

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Speaker 3: potentials there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, As I said before, the current front runner

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Speaker 2: front runner is it's going to be controversial if it wins. Okay,

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Speaker 2: if they he she won wins, all right.

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Speaker 3: There could be some angry people out there.

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Speaker 7: Also.

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Speaker 3: We want to have a chat about preparing for your retirement.

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Speaker 3: Great story in the Herald today about healthy approaches to

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Speaker 3: aging effectively. A lot of experts say the seventies of

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Speaker 3: the new fifties. A recent study done by the International

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Speaker 3: Monetry Fund analyzed forty one countries and they found, on average,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my word, fifty three year old's so dumb back

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Speaker 3: So effectively, you know, less waste means that the councils

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Speaker 2: Disgusting just leaving your horrible, revolting, rotten food and your

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Speaker 2: It's a bad neighbor, disgusting Napier residents that do that.

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Speaker 2: But the wide question is what do you think about this?

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Speaker 2: If you use things less, should you pay less rates

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Speaker 2: if you don't use parks, do you pay less?

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Speaker 2: If you can prove that you only use certain roads.

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Speaker 2: Do you pay less if you never ride a bicycle?

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Speaker 2: Do you not have to pay for bike lanes?

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Speaker 3: Oh, here's hoping. Here's hoping. It would be a good one.

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Speaker 2: If you widen out and you're one of those people

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Speaker 2: like Bruce Willis in the movie Unbreakable m Night Shamaland

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Speaker 2: Do you not have to pay central government for healthcare?

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to that chat after two o'clock.

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Speaker 3: But right now, let's have a chat about these new

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Speaker 3: It's five inmates sixty R Seahawk helicopters and two Airbus

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Speaker 3: But here's a little bit of the Defense Minister Judith

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Speaker 9: Well, it's a great day for defense and we're extremely

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Speaker 9: changer for us.

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Speaker 2: You'd need more of everything though, basically, wouldn't you.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think five new chopiss a really good place

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Speaker 9: Well, the Seahawk is a state of the combat capable machine.

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Speaker 9: It has advanced eyes and ears if you like to

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Speaker 9: both on the surface and also subsurface and so and

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Speaker 9: what is an increasingly complex world out there that is

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Speaker 2: Do the job. Does this help recruitment.

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Speaker 9: I think it does. I think you can. You can center.

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Speaker 9: It's propable morale lists when we have new equipment and

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Speaker 3: So very happy in the camps of Defense Minister Judith

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Speaker 2: And we'll talk to Deputy Prime Minister David Seymore at

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Speaker 2: about one point thirty about this. We've got any questions

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Speaker 2: questions there. So what do you think about this? Do

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Speaker 2: you think they've got it right? Do you think we

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Speaker 2: of these this two point seven billion dollars worth of

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Speaker 2: aircraft's going to be obsolete obviously. The air buses that

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Speaker 2: is drone technology going to replace all this stuff? It's

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Speaker 3: Come on through. I wait, hundred eighty ten eighty and two.

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Speaker 3: All the people texting through saying we don't need to

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Speaker 2: Love to hear from you, Love to hear the rationale

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Speaker 2: I want.

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Speaker 3: One hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number.

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Speaker 2: I just can't imagine someone that that locks. At the

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Speaker 2: model of the the MH sixty RC hawk that Judith

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Speaker 2: Collins had in Parliament and Jerry Brown had to grab

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Speaker 2: it. It looks so cool though passing it around. I've never

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Speaker 2: seen politicians so happy in my life. I mean, you've

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Speaker 2: got to say, what if you think about them? They do?

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Speaker 3: Look call they have the very cool machines. Absolutely, Oh,

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number to call.

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Speaker 3: It's quarter past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Used

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Speaker 1: Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: News Talks EDB. It is eighteen past one.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the new military vehicle purchases the government

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Speaker 3: has announced. So it's five MH sixty R Seahawks and

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Speaker 3: two Earbus A three twenty one x l r's. They

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Speaker 3: are impressive pieces of kit. Just a few technical specifications

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Speaker 3: on the Seahawk helicopters, so they're manufactured by Lockheed Martin.

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Speaker 3: It's a multi roll maritime helicopter designed for anti submarine

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Speaker 3: and surface warfare. Measuring nineteen point seven six meters in length,

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Speaker 3: it can reach speeds of up to three hundred and

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Speaker 3: thirty three k's an hour, has a range of nine

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Speaker 3: hundred and six sixty three k's. Operated by a crew

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Speaker 3: of three, the Seahawk can carry over fifteen hundred kilograms

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Speaker 3: in utility mode and is equipped with a suite of

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Speaker 3: weaponry including MK thirfty four anti sub torpedoes, AGM one

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Speaker 2: John. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: Hey, how are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I won't wonder how simple it is, John. If

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Speaker 3: Yep, John nicely said, thanks very much for giving us

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Speaker 3: eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: Love you get your thoughts on this? Is this good

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, isn't it? Because that person before was saying

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Speaker 2: Very clever.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty work, full lines.

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Speaker 1: One, putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic

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Speaker 2: So the wonderful world of the Central Bank and their

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. You we're talking about the bulk of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good spin and some good sayings coming through. Better

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Speaker 2: to be a warrior in the garden than a gardener

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Speaker 2: in a war Love that great phrase. Great who said that?

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Speaker 2: That's a great saying? Yeah? Was that Machia Valley might

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Speaker 3: DYMI and how are you mate?

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Speaker 2: Very good?

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Speaker 3: And what's your thoughts about this money spinning on this

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Speaker 11: Well, I mean people out there that don't think that

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Speaker 11: it's necessary. So it's not so much about sucking up

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Speaker 11: the likes of UK, Singapore all the other countries that

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Speaker 11: we have alliance with. But we have the ability to

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Speaker 11: actually say, yes, we can, we can help. We can

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Speaker 11: we can help. But the other thing is with the

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Speaker 11: answer twenty one xlrs, you've also going to think that

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Speaker 11: the reason why they probably didn't go with Boeing was

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Speaker 11: due to the fact the current Boeing fleet is not

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Speaker 11: that great at the moment, the way in which Boeing

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Speaker 11: at the moment, you know, which they're sort of like

447
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Speaker 11: maintenance issues that they have with the engines and that

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Speaker 11: sort of thing. But the XLR is a highly capable aircraft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Damien, really good to get your thoughts. Thanks

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Speaker 3: so much for giving.

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Speaker 2: Us a buzz. All right, thanks well, have a nice weekend.

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Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to call,

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Speaker 3: really can to get your thoughts on this. Coming up

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Speaker 3: after the headlines though, the ACT Party long campaigned for

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Speaker 3: more investment in our defense force, So we're going to

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Speaker 3: have a chat to ACT Party leader and Deputy Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister David Seymour on this purchase. He is coming up

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Speaker 3: next at is twenty eight to two US.

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Speaker 13: Zealand history. It's reached a deal to sell its consumer

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Speaker 13: three point eight four five billion dollars The Prime ministers

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Speaker 13: Minister makes his case to US officials, Chris Luksen says

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy, and we are discussing the

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Speaker 3: government's purchase of five new Seahawk helicopters and two Airbus

483
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Speaker 3: A three twenty one x l rs. The EC Party

484
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Speaker 3: long campaign for more investment in our defense force, and

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Speaker 3: we are now joined by EC Party leader and Deputy

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister David Seymour. David good afternoon, Hey mass, Hey Tyler.

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Speaker 2: David, So what specific threats is new Zealand facing that

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Speaker 2: justify spenning two point seven billion on new aircraft, and shoppers.

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Speaker 14: Well take them one at a time. With the aircraft,

490
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Speaker 14: most countries have some ability to move people at short notice,

491
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Speaker 14: whether the troops, humanitarian aid, diplomats going on missions to

492
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Speaker 14: promote business or whatever. Basically every Western country has some

493
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Speaker 14: sort of planes, often much poorer countries than us. Their

494
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Speaker 14: leaders seem to have bought much nicer planes than we have. Anyhow,

495
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Speaker 14: we're getting a pretty good deal here. The seven five

496
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Speaker 14: sevens were bought second hand, I think in nineteen ninety

497
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Speaker 14: three when I personally was at primary school. They've kept

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Speaker 14: them flying somehow, and that's a big tribute to the

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Speaker 14: engineers at the New Zealand Air Force who can keep

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Speaker 14: anything going. And yet those planes were relatively modern technology

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Speaker 14: compared with the old sea Sprite helicopters. We had five

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Speaker 14: of those, and the oldest one hasn't actually seen action

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Speaker 14: since the Korean War. It was literally used in Korea,

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Speaker 14: and somehow the engineers at the Defense Force have kept

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Speaker 14: it f buying until now. So we're now going to

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Speaker 14: replace those and that's where the idea of the threat

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Speaker 14: comes in. The fact is that we now have a

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Speaker 14: contested space in the Pacific. You've seen recently the Chinese

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Speaker 14: fire and missile which landed near French Polynesia. You've seen

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Speaker 14: freedom of navigation. I guess they'd call it powerful flotillas

511
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Speaker 14: of Chinese warships through the Tasman Sea recently. And you

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Speaker 14: just don't know what are the challenges you might face

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Speaker 14: as people start to compete over minerals on the seabed

514
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Speaker 14: around fishing grounds. The New Zealand's defense force needs the

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Speaker 14: ability to patrol our exclusive economic zone and act as

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Speaker 14: a deterrent to people who would come and take things

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Speaker 14: that are legally belonging to New Zealanders.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, isn't it. That whole Korean War thing that's

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Speaker 2: Hawkeye Honeycot times that it's pretty insane. Is this US

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Speaker 2: procurement route about more than defense though? Is there a

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Speaker 2: New Zealand USA economic relations aspect to it. There's not.

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Speaker 14: I mean, obviously it's good to be close to our

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Speaker 14: friends in the world, But I can honestly say I

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Speaker 14: haven't been directly directly involved, but I've been a member

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Speaker 14: of cabinet that's considered the different papers. In fact, I

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Speaker 14: chair the Cabinet Committee that we've put through the paper

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Speaker 14: a couple of weeks ago on the choppers, and there

528
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Speaker 14: has been a robust case made considering a variety of

529
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Speaker 14: different possible helicopters, and these are honestly the best one

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Speaker 14: probably if we were making any consideration around allies and

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Speaker 14: buying the helicopters. It's the fact that the Australians have

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Speaker 14: twenty something of the Seahawk helicopters and being interoperable with

533
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Speaker 14: them as important. But if you look at our procurement

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Speaker 14: of the airplanes, we've actually gone for two air buses,

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Speaker 14: which is a French German company. If we were worried

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Speaker 14: about the Americans, I guess we probably would have bought Boeings.

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 2: Further, that thing you say about the Australians and the compatibility,

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Speaker 2: how much do you consult with Australia on what we

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Speaker 2: get for our defense force. Do they go through and

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Speaker 2: say that'll be helpful, that wouldn't could you do this?

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Speaker 2: Could you do that?

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Speaker 14: I wouldn't frame it that way that they're basically calling

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Speaker 14: the shots. But one thing that I'm proud of with

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Speaker 14: this government is that since we got into office, we've

546
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Speaker 14: actually really made a concerted effort to get out there.

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Speaker 14: So if you look at Chris Luxon, you know, always traveling.

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Speaker 14: Winston Peters is out there traveling an awful lot. Todd

549
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Speaker 14: McLay has been going to India just about every week.

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Speaker 14: The poor guy went to India just to have dinner

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Speaker 14: if it helped with the relationship, and that shows the

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Speaker 14: free trade agreements that he's getting through a difference there.

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Speaker 14: And then Judith Collins has been over there having bilateral

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Speaker 14: meetings with the Australian Minister of Defense. So right across

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Speaker 14: the board, but especially with Australia, we are reaching out

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Speaker 14: again whereas previously. And I know people don't want us

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Speaker 14: to spend our time begging the last government, but I mean,

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Speaker 14: whatever you may think of Nanaya Mahuta, she was the

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Speaker 14: Minister for Local Government and the Minister for Foreign Affairs.

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Speaker 14: Now you cannot be in the Hay Europe at one

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Speaker 14: day and in Eketahuna talking about pipes the next day.

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Speaker 14: It's physically impossible. So you know, we really have as

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Speaker 14: a government worked hard to build our connections and that

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Speaker 14: especially includes with Australia. So when we buy stuff, it's

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Speaker 14: not that they're telling us what to buy. But it's

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Speaker 14: that we're working together.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm just looking at the text machine. What do

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Speaker 2: you say to the people that are texting in that

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Speaker 2: say they would prefer this money was spent on other

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Speaker 2: parts of our economy.

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Speaker 14: Well, it's a bit like insurance, right. It's always tempting

572
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Speaker 14: to say, well, money's tight, let's cut down on the

573
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Speaker 14: end insurance. And of course that's a good short term solution,

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Speaker 14: but I don't know that it works for you, and

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Speaker 14: I think most people intuitively know that's not wise. The

576
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Speaker 14: thing about a defense force is that you kind of

577
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Speaker 14: buy it hoping you'll never actually use it. But if

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Speaker 14: you have to use it, then you're very grateful that

579
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Speaker 14: you paid the money, because by the time you need it,

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Speaker 14: it's too late to invest in it. And I think

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Speaker 14: if you want to make a comparison, we are currently spending,

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Speaker 14: or at least until recently, zero point nine percent of

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Speaker 14: the economy. Our goal is to get up to two percent.

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Speaker 14: I'm proud that's happening. That's what the act Party campaigned for.

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Speaker 14: And it's not like we're into government spending. I mean,

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Speaker 14: it's one of the few things we think the government

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Speaker 14: should spend more on. If you go across to Australia,

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Speaker 14: they're already at two percent. We won't get to two

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Speaker 14: percent until twenty thirty two. The Australians by that point

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Speaker 14: are on track to be spending two and a half percent.

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Speaker 14: So you put it this way, if there was a

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Speaker 14: serious where would be asking the Australians to come across

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Speaker 14: and help us. Now are they going to divert their

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Speaker 14: military assets away from protecting Brisbane and Sydney and Melbourne

595
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Speaker 14: and Perth in order to protect Auckland, Wellington and christ

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Speaker 14: Church if they know that we have not made the

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Speaker 14: investment and do not have the capacity to help them

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Speaker 14: when they need it. It really is as simple as that.

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Speaker 14: If you believe in the ANZAC thing, you've got to

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Speaker 14: put your money where your Mouthfice.

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Speaker 3: Yep, nicely said been. There's been a few techs David

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Speaker 3: about the incident in February with the Chinese warships and

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Speaker 3: the Tasman Sea and I believe Minister Collins words at

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Speaker 3: the time was that was quite chilling. Does that come

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Speaker 3: into play here when we look at the investment that

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Speaker 3: was announced, the twelve billion in this investment in the

607
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Speaker 3: new military equipment which are impressive pieces of cats. Does

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Speaker 3: those sort of incidents come into play.

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Speaker 14: Well, I mean, I think those incidents are basically the

610
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Speaker 14: highlighting of a trend that's been going for very long time.

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Speaker 14: I remember, I think I was on this radio station

612
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Speaker 14: back in twenty nineteen and I was saying, look, I

613
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Speaker 14: think probably the most significant thing that's happened in New

614
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Speaker 14: Zealand this year is the installation or the presence of

615
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Speaker 14: Chinese ships and care of us. And I actually have

616
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Speaker 14: to look on the map to realize how closer it is.

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Speaker 14: This has been coming for a long time, and we

618
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Speaker 14: have got to start adjusting to the reality. I believe

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Speaker 14: New Zealand started quite a few years behind. We did

620
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Speaker 14: try and win the election earlier to start addressing this,

621
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Speaker 14: but the people didn't want us then. Now that they did,

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Speaker 14: we are taking steps to prepare for a reality that's

623
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Speaker 14: been coming for a while, and these incidents with the

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Speaker 14: ships and so on that they're just punctuating what we

625
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Speaker 14: should already know.

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Speaker 2: So for all the people that are texting and saying

627
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Speaker 2: that they'd prefer we spend the money elsewhere, there's about

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Speaker 2: five to one texting that we should spend more, and

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Speaker 2: maybe that say something about the audience for me entire

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Speaker 2: afternoons on NEWSTKCB. I'm not sure, but if we wanted

631
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Speaker 2: to get super serious, don't we have to spend billions

632
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Speaker 2: and billions of.

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Speaker 7: More?

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Speaker 2: And look, if we could afford it, what would our

635
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Speaker 2: dream defense force look like? Are we talking going as

636
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Speaker 2: far as fighter jets, I know, stealth well as robo soldiers?

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Speaker 2: What do we want?

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Speaker 14: Look, I just take the view that you know, there's

639
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Speaker 14: always going to be sensied around our alliances with the

640
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Speaker 14: rest of the world. But I think if we can't

641
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Speaker 14: at least do the ANZAC thing and be in lockstep

642
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Speaker 14: with Australia, then we're in real trouble. And I would say, look,

643
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Speaker 14: the New Zealand economy is about one sixth of the

644
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Speaker 14: Australian economy, so I would say, look, if they're getting

645
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Speaker 14: six squadrons of F thirty five, maybe we should do

646
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Speaker 14: a deal to have one too. If they are currently

647
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Speaker 14: buying Japanese warships, which they have just agreed to buy

648
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Speaker 14: a dozen Japanese frigates, maybe we should add a couple

649
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Speaker 14: onto that order and basically play our part in an

650
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Speaker 14: ANZAC alliance. Now I'm not saying that's the government policy

651
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Speaker 14: to do that, but it's a principle that I think

652
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Speaker 14: is probably a good way of thinking about it. And

653
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Speaker 14: then once you've established that principle, start cutting your cloth

654
00:33:22,293 --> 00:33:24,373
Speaker 14: and thinking what you can and can't do. The other

655
00:33:24,373 --> 00:33:27,213
Speaker 14: thing I'd say is, I think what is being taught

656
00:33:27,213 --> 00:33:30,533
Speaker 14: to the world in real time by Ukraine is that

657
00:33:31,133 --> 00:33:38,013
Speaker 14: often smaller autonomous vehicles, drones and the like it can

658
00:33:38,173 --> 00:33:41,533
Speaker 14: be a lot more effective than having an entire army

659
00:33:41,573 --> 00:33:45,653
Speaker 14: of very expensive hardware, as the Russians found out, at

660
00:33:45,813 --> 00:33:49,093
Speaker 14: enormous costs. So you know, we should be first of

661
00:33:49,093 --> 00:33:52,653
Speaker 14: all ANZAC focused, in my view, Second of all, just

662
00:33:52,773 --> 00:33:55,373
Speaker 14: keeping a little bit of space for the possibility that

663
00:33:55,493 --> 00:33:57,813
Speaker 14: technology can change the rules of the game very quickly,

664
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Speaker 14: and we should try and tap into our key spirit

665
00:34:00,973 --> 00:34:03,733
Speaker 14: of being nimble, number eight, wire and innovative.

666
00:34:03,973 --> 00:34:04,173
Speaker 15: Yeah.

667
00:34:04,173 --> 00:34:05,533
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's the thing, isn't it. I mean,

668
00:34:05,653 --> 00:34:07,333
Speaker 2: are you worried that in a few years that are

669
00:34:07,373 --> 00:34:09,573
Speaker 2: four hundred dollars dry and we'll take down our one

670
00:34:09,613 --> 00:34:10,813
Speaker 2: hundred million dollar choppers.

671
00:34:12,213 --> 00:34:17,172
Speaker 14: Well, you'd kind of think that the choppers will have

672
00:34:17,253 --> 00:34:20,253
Speaker 14: defense systems that will keep ahead of the four hundred

673
00:34:20,293 --> 00:34:20,973
Speaker 14: dollars drones.

674
00:34:21,013 --> 00:34:21,613
Speaker 2: What about.

675
00:34:25,253 --> 00:34:27,573
Speaker 14: Well, it's at some point there'll there could be a

676
00:34:27,653 --> 00:34:29,733
Speaker 14: ratio there, but I think it's a bit higher.

677
00:34:29,453 --> 00:34:30,413
Speaker 2: Than the one year proposed.

678
00:34:30,733 --> 00:34:33,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, and David just quickly that's too humble to ask,

679
00:34:33,613 --> 00:34:35,253
Speaker 3: but he'd really like to go up in one of

680
00:34:35,293 --> 00:34:37,733
Speaker 3: the Seahawks when they come into the country. Can you

681
00:34:37,733 --> 00:34:38,293
Speaker 3: make that happen?

682
00:34:38,373 --> 00:34:39,973
Speaker 2: The Seahawks will be bringing them back.

683
00:34:41,573 --> 00:34:46,093
Speaker 14: Yeah, no, you can, but they won't arrive until after

684
00:34:46,133 --> 00:34:49,453
Speaker 14: the election. So if he votes for me and encourages

685
00:34:49,453 --> 00:34:51,773
Speaker 14: all his listeners to then I'll be in a position

686
00:34:51,813 --> 00:34:52,172
Speaker 14: to help.

687
00:34:52,373 --> 00:34:55,373
Speaker 2: Oh all right, I'm in high stake Sta. Really nice

688
00:34:55,413 --> 00:34:55,893
Speaker 2: to have you on.

689
00:34:56,453 --> 00:34:59,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, really appreciate your red time. Thank you very much

690
00:34:59,053 --> 00:35:01,853
Speaker 3: and we'll hope soon. That is Deputy Prime Minister and

691
00:35:01,933 --> 00:35:04,893
Speaker 3: Eight Party leader David Seymour. Can you get your views

692
00:35:04,973 --> 00:35:05,773
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty.

693
00:35:05,733 --> 00:35:07,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think about this more or less

694
00:35:07,733 --> 00:35:11,252
Speaker 2: spending on defense? And do you like what we've selected it.

695
00:35:11,173 --> 00:35:15,253
Speaker 1: As twelve to two the big stories, the big issues, to

696
00:35:15,333 --> 00:35:17,693
Speaker 1: the big trends and everything in between.

697
00:35:17,893 --> 00:35:20,813
Speaker 7: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

698
00:35:20,813 --> 00:35:23,573
Speaker 3: They'd be very good afternoon, Sean, Thanks for hanging on.

699
00:35:24,733 --> 00:35:27,813
Speaker 16: Oh hi there, I hope I can remember everything I

700
00:35:27,853 --> 00:35:30,373
Speaker 16: wanted to say, but I'll be quick. As I've been told,

701
00:35:31,653 --> 00:35:34,813
Speaker 16: I think every helicopter that comes into this country is

702
00:35:34,853 --> 00:35:40,373
Speaker 16: a massive asset. These machines. Yes, they have maritime capabilities,

703
00:35:40,413 --> 00:35:46,213
Speaker 16: but that aside just the rescue. The firefighting that these

704
00:35:46,253 --> 00:35:51,213
Speaker 16: machines can do is incredible because of their size and

705
00:35:51,253 --> 00:35:54,973
Speaker 16: because of the size monsoon buckets they could lift. And

706
00:35:55,893 --> 00:36:00,453
Speaker 16: I just think that that is probably a big, bigger

707
00:36:00,493 --> 00:36:06,053
Speaker 16: asset than the maritime you know what you know, with

708
00:36:06,173 --> 00:36:09,853
Speaker 16: the the kind you know, the borders and whatever.

709
00:36:11,493 --> 00:36:14,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, spot on. So I mean you're you're all for

710
00:36:14,413 --> 00:36:16,813
Speaker 3: this sort of spending and what more of it? Shure

711
00:36:16,893 --> 00:36:19,333
Speaker 3: we need more and more of these sort of military.

712
00:36:19,013 --> 00:36:26,373
Speaker 16: Vehicles exactly one. David mentioned Australia with the F thirty fives.

713
00:36:26,813 --> 00:36:30,533
Speaker 16: That is a waste of time. If I would rather

714
00:36:30,653 --> 00:36:34,573
Speaker 16: put the money into more helicopters than that I used.

715
00:36:34,733 --> 00:36:37,333
Speaker 16: I used to fry them years and years in the eighties.

716
00:36:37,973 --> 00:36:44,653
Speaker 16: So I think their use is incredible to save lives

717
00:36:45,093 --> 00:36:48,692
Speaker 16: and obviously to defend the country as well. Yeah, multi use,

718
00:36:48,733 --> 00:36:53,093
Speaker 16: but F thirty five it's got one use only and

719
00:36:53,133 --> 00:36:53,453
Speaker 16: that's it.

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00:36:54,293 --> 00:36:56,093
Speaker 3: Sure, and thank you very much. Good to hear from you.

721
00:36:56,173 --> 00:36:58,253
Speaker 2: I've got an apology to make to you, Tyler, Okay, please,

722
00:36:58,373 --> 00:37:01,533
Speaker 2: I thought you said skyhawks when you said Matt would

723
00:37:01,533 --> 00:37:04,333
Speaker 2: like to go in the skyhawk, But you did say seahawks.

724
00:37:04,413 --> 00:37:06,733
Speaker 2: Did say sEH I thought that you'd made a mistake.

725
00:37:06,933 --> 00:37:09,333
Speaker 3: I should have said kakas helico and then we all

726
00:37:09,373 --> 00:37:10,693
Speaker 3: would have known what I was talking about.

727
00:37:10,693 --> 00:37:13,093
Speaker 2: So, because the last Seahawk I saw was when I

728
00:37:13,133 --> 00:37:15,212
Speaker 2: was down at or Hockey and they've got one that's

729
00:37:15,253 --> 00:37:19,413
Speaker 2: concreted outside the barretts are staying in anywhere, I was like,

730
00:37:19,453 --> 00:37:21,533
Speaker 2: what's Tyler talking about it? They have they taken out

731
00:37:21,533 --> 00:37:24,573
Speaker 2: of the concrete For me to have a go apology,

732
00:37:25,053 --> 00:37:27,053
Speaker 2: I put on that you're an idiot voice when it

733
00:37:27,093 --> 00:37:29,813
Speaker 2: was actually me Tyler. That was the idiot's apology. Except that,

734
00:37:29,853 --> 00:37:32,053
Speaker 2: thank you very much. Mate. It is seven to two.

735
00:37:33,493 --> 00:37:37,053
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

736
00:37:37,053 --> 00:37:37,853
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty.

737
00:37:38,013 --> 00:37:41,173
Speaker 7: It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons.

738
00:37:40,573 --> 00:37:44,333
Speaker 3: Newstalks be news dogs there be. It is five to two.

739
00:37:44,453 --> 00:37:47,413
Speaker 3: There's been thousands of texts come through over the last

740
00:37:47,413 --> 00:37:49,853
Speaker 3: hour on this one, like this one, guys, that all

741
00:37:49,853 --> 00:37:53,172
Speaker 3: sounded pretty logical. From David Seymour. The insurance analogy was good.

742
00:37:53,213 --> 00:37:56,253
Speaker 3: And if we're piggybacking off and Aussie defense order and

743
00:37:56,293 --> 00:37:58,213
Speaker 3: it's getting us a better deal, that can't be a

744
00:37:58,213 --> 00:38:03,172
Speaker 3: bad thing, which makes a lot of sense. And this

745
00:38:03,253 --> 00:38:06,533
Speaker 3: one here, yes, guys, absolutely, we need to be investing

746
00:38:06,693 --> 00:38:10,973
Speaker 3: more into our defense force. Without kit like this, we

747
00:38:11,013 --> 00:38:12,853
Speaker 3: will be the laughing stock of the world, which we've

748
00:38:12,853 --> 00:38:15,973
Speaker 3: been to which we have been for far too long.

749
00:38:16,173 --> 00:38:18,853
Speaker 2: It's interesting, if Matt and Tyler Afternoon's text machine has

750
00:38:18,893 --> 00:38:20,933
Speaker 2: anything to go by on nine two nine two, it's

751
00:38:20,933 --> 00:38:24,973
Speaker 2: about five to one in support of spending the spending

752
00:38:25,573 --> 00:38:29,293
Speaker 2: and most people saying we should spend more. Yeah, it

753
00:38:29,293 --> 00:38:32,213
Speaker 2: feels like the world's changed in recent years. Soon people

754
00:38:32,213 --> 00:38:33,933
Speaker 2: are looking around. We used to think New Zealand, we're

755
00:38:33,973 --> 00:38:36,333
Speaker 2: just isolated in the middle of the South Pacific, no

756
00:38:36,373 --> 00:38:39,013
Speaker 2: one's going to cause us any problems. But more recently

757
00:38:39,013 --> 00:38:42,732
Speaker 2: everyone's going, ah, well, just seems a lit little bit

758
00:38:42,733 --> 00:38:44,573
Speaker 2: discombobulated at the moment, isn't it nice?

759
00:38:44,653 --> 00:38:47,413
Speaker 3: Yep, nicely wrapped up right, coming up after two o'clock.

760
00:38:47,613 --> 00:38:50,252
Speaker 3: Let's have a chat about rates discounts for putting out

761
00:38:50,293 --> 00:38:53,213
Speaker 3: your bins less times a year. That's what Napier City

762
00:38:53,253 --> 00:38:55,973
Speaker 3: Council is doing. How far do we go with this? Oh,

763
00:38:56,053 --> 00:38:57,692
Speaker 3: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number

764
00:38:57,733 --> 00:39:00,253
Speaker 3: to call. How would you feel if you've got a

765
00:39:00,253 --> 00:39:02,373
Speaker 3: little bit of a rates discount for mowing your booms,

766
00:39:02,453 --> 00:39:05,413
Speaker 3: not using the road so much, taking out your rubbish less?

767
00:39:05,693 --> 00:39:07,893
Speaker 3: Is this a good idea? Or is this crazy town

768
00:39:07,933 --> 00:39:09,293
Speaker 3: really keen to have a chat with you? Oh, eight

769
00:39:09,333 --> 00:39:11,573
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is number to call. Nineteen

770
00:39:11,653 --> 00:39:12,093
Speaker 3: nine two.

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00:39:12,133 --> 00:39:16,933
Speaker 2: Texts seis Packham parabellum. If you want peace, prepare for.

772
00:39:17,413 --> 00:39:24,173
Speaker 1: Nice talking with you all afternoon.

773
00:39:24,453 --> 00:39:27,693
Speaker 7: It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons.

774
00:39:27,493 --> 00:39:32,053
Speaker 3: News TALKSI bey very good afternoon to you. Seven past two.

775
00:39:32,093 --> 00:39:35,613
Speaker 3: Hope you're having a great Friday afternoon. Now this is

776
00:39:35,653 --> 00:39:38,693
Speaker 3: going to be an interesting chat. Naper City Council is

777
00:39:38,813 --> 00:39:41,933
Speaker 3: offering a discount for residents who only take their bin

778
00:39:42,013 --> 00:39:45,293
Speaker 3: out a certain number of times of years. So currently

779
00:39:45,733 --> 00:39:48,373
Speaker 3: it's a weekly pick up on the old waste collection

780
00:39:48,453 --> 00:39:52,053
Speaker 3: in Napier, but they have said that a rates. Discount

781
00:39:52,093 --> 00:39:54,853
Speaker 3: for households that put their bins out for collection twenty

782
00:39:54,933 --> 00:39:58,853
Speaker 3: six times or fewer each year will apply how much

783
00:39:58,893 --> 00:40:01,453
Speaker 3: you are, So households that record those twenty six times

784
00:40:01,493 --> 00:40:04,013
Speaker 3: a year or fewer will receive a twenty five percent

785
00:40:04,053 --> 00:40:07,893
Speaker 3: discount on their collection portion of their rates bill.

786
00:40:08,933 --> 00:40:11,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that does seem fair if you're not

787
00:40:11,493 --> 00:40:13,853
Speaker 2: using it that you pay list. But have they thought

788
00:40:13,853 --> 00:40:16,933
Speaker 2: about the wider ramifications of that, because you could you

789
00:40:17,013 --> 00:40:19,573
Speaker 2: could just do that everywhere, on every part of it, right,

790
00:40:19,653 --> 00:40:22,732
Speaker 2: you can say, Look, I don't I've never been past

791
00:40:22,773 --> 00:40:25,692
Speaker 2: that fountain yeah in town. Yeah, so I don't want

792
00:40:25,693 --> 00:40:27,373
Speaker 2: to pay for my proportion of that fountain.

793
00:40:27,493 --> 00:40:30,133
Speaker 3: Never been to that park. That's another percent off my rates,

794
00:40:30,133 --> 00:40:31,093
Speaker 3: will thank you very much.

795
00:40:31,493 --> 00:40:34,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, I only drive down this these roads, so I

796
00:40:34,693 --> 00:40:37,133
Speaker 2: only want to You know, I'm a very boring person.

797
00:40:37,173 --> 00:40:39,293
Speaker 2: I only drive between here and work, and I only

798
00:40:39,293 --> 00:40:41,533
Speaker 2: live four hundred meters away from work. You, I only

799
00:40:41,533 --> 00:40:42,933
Speaker 2: want to pay for that percentage of the road. So

800
00:40:43,373 --> 00:40:45,853
Speaker 2: surely if you can do it for bins, can't you

801
00:40:45,893 --> 00:40:48,213
Speaker 2: do it for absolutely everything and then it's winded it

802
00:40:48,253 --> 00:40:50,733
Speaker 2: out to the government. You know, I don't I have

803
00:40:50,853 --> 00:40:53,333
Speaker 2: you don't have kids. I do not have kids, so

804
00:40:53,373 --> 00:40:55,533
Speaker 2: why are you paying for the education of my kids?

805
00:40:55,573 --> 00:40:57,933
Speaker 3: That is a great point seeing that saying that to

806
00:40:57,973 --> 00:40:59,693
Speaker 3: the beehive, give me a discount.

807
00:40:59,853 --> 00:41:02,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, people with health insurance might go, why am I

808
00:41:02,573 --> 00:41:05,533
Speaker 2: paying for for other people's health? Yeah? I wait?

809
00:41:05,533 --> 00:41:07,373
Speaker 3: One hundred eighty ten and eighty. How do you feel

810
00:41:07,373 --> 00:41:09,813
Speaker 3: about this? The old scount for not taking your bins

811
00:41:09,853 --> 00:41:12,933
Speaker 3: out every week? It's in Napier City Council. They're going

812
00:41:12,973 --> 00:41:14,453
Speaker 3: to give them a discount. But how far do you

813
00:41:14,453 --> 00:41:16,533
Speaker 3: go if you mow the burns, if you don't drive

814
00:41:16,613 --> 00:41:19,573
Speaker 3: that much? I mean, should this be rolled out across

815
00:41:19,693 --> 00:41:21,933
Speaker 3: every line in your rates bill to try and keep

816
00:41:21,973 --> 00:41:22,413
Speaker 3: things down?

817
00:41:22,453 --> 00:41:23,293
Speaker 2: Really? Ken to chat with you?

818
00:41:23,373 --> 00:41:26,173
Speaker 3: Oh, eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

819
00:41:26,213 --> 00:41:26,533
Speaker 3: to call?

820
00:41:26,733 --> 00:41:29,853
Speaker 2: So would work? Like you've got tags on your bins? Like, yeah,

821
00:41:29,893 --> 00:41:31,973
Speaker 2: so you've got tags on the bins that shut that.

822
00:41:32,053 --> 00:41:33,573
Speaker 2: So if you've got those tags, you're only going to

823
00:41:33,613 --> 00:41:34,893
Speaker 2: put them out every second week, right, yep?

824
00:41:34,933 --> 00:41:36,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they can regist that every time they pick

825
00:41:36,813 --> 00:41:39,213
Speaker 3: it up. It's we dang right, that's one time and

826
00:41:39,653 --> 00:41:41,853
Speaker 3: it's fewer than twenty six per year. So what's that

827
00:41:41,973 --> 00:41:42,893
Speaker 3: once every fortnight.

828
00:41:43,013 --> 00:41:44,613
Speaker 2: So if you see those tags, you know to stay

829
00:41:44,653 --> 00:41:48,133
Speaker 2: away from that house because they're you know, their bins

830
00:41:48,173 --> 00:41:49,813
Speaker 2: are going to stink more than yours. You can see

831
00:41:49,813 --> 00:41:51,293
Speaker 2: the flys from miles away. Yeah.

832
00:41:51,373 --> 00:41:53,533
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

833
00:41:53,573 --> 00:41:55,213
Speaker 3: call love to hear your thoughts on this.

834
00:41:55,413 --> 00:41:57,093
Speaker 2: And you know what's going to happen, right, these people

835
00:41:57,133 --> 00:41:58,853
Speaker 2: that are only fifty percent of the time bins and

836
00:41:58,893 --> 00:42:03,133
Speaker 2: looking Christich it's always like that, right, Yeah, that's lazy

837
00:42:03,133 --> 00:42:05,733
Speaker 2: from the Christiach City Council. You get a discount on

838
00:42:05,733 --> 00:42:08,133
Speaker 2: my rates for that. But you know what these these

839
00:42:08,133 --> 00:42:09,773
Speaker 2: people are going to do that are doing the halftime,

840
00:42:10,053 --> 00:42:11,933
Speaker 2: They're going to do those ninja missions like I do

841
00:42:11,973 --> 00:42:14,333
Speaker 2: at night to go and put my excess rubbish to

842
00:42:14,413 --> 00:42:16,773
Speaker 2: other people's bins. Yeah, so every two weeks you put

843
00:42:16,813 --> 00:42:18,493
Speaker 2: it out, but on the off week you're just putting

844
00:42:18,533 --> 00:42:19,253
Speaker 2: it in your neighbor's bin.

845
00:42:19,413 --> 00:42:21,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you offset that because you actually pick up

846
00:42:21,693 --> 00:42:23,213
Speaker 3: random rubbish on a regular basis.

847
00:42:23,613 --> 00:42:25,652
Speaker 2: And what this Jeff has got this point here, I

848
00:42:25,693 --> 00:42:28,093
Speaker 2: live at rural and get no bin pick up at all,

849
00:42:28,253 --> 00:42:29,413
Speaker 2: have to pay private company.

850
00:42:29,533 --> 00:42:32,093
Speaker 3: It's from Jeff that is a great point. Yeah, rural people,

851
00:42:32,093 --> 00:42:33,333
Speaker 3: how do you feel about this? O? W eight one

852
00:42:33,373 --> 00:42:36,933
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Plenty

853
00:42:36,973 --> 00:42:38,933
Speaker 3: of texts coming through A nine two ninety two as well.

854
00:42:38,933 --> 00:42:41,533
Speaker 3: It is ten past two.

855
00:42:41,573 --> 00:42:45,933
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

856
00:42:45,973 --> 00:42:48,853
Speaker 1: call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk said

857
00:42:48,893 --> 00:42:50,613
Speaker 1: be for.

858
00:42:50,613 --> 00:42:52,373
Speaker 3: A good afternoon. So an api a city council are

859
00:42:52,413 --> 00:42:55,093
Speaker 3: offering a discount to residents who only take their bins

860
00:42:55,093 --> 00:42:58,053
Speaker 3: out twenty six times a year or fewer. How far

861
00:42:58,093 --> 00:43:00,133
Speaker 3: do you go with this? So one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

862
00:43:00,013 --> 00:43:02,133
Speaker 2: This texasy is everyone in Auckland should get a discount

863
00:43:02,213 --> 00:43:04,533
Speaker 2: for not using the stupid food scraps bin, the dumbest

864
00:43:04,533 --> 00:43:08,013
Speaker 2: scheme ever, which we should have given up a long

865
00:43:08,013 --> 00:43:09,893
Speaker 2: time go and had the ability to opt out of.

866
00:43:10,053 --> 00:43:12,573
Speaker 2: I mean, I often send you a little photo, don't I?

867
00:43:12,653 --> 00:43:14,172
Speaker 2: You tell that when I'm putting out my bins, they'll

868
00:43:14,453 --> 00:43:16,053
Speaker 2: very proud of it when you when you put out

869
00:43:16,093 --> 00:43:18,973
Speaker 2: your little green bucket. I never put out my green bucket. God,

870
00:43:19,053 --> 00:43:21,333
Speaker 2: is that what you're getting from those photos? That's what

871
00:43:21,453 --> 00:43:24,773
Speaker 2: you are right? You're seeing your smash down the street,

872
00:43:24,973 --> 00:43:28,853
Speaker 2: up and down. My god, I escape it. My point

873
00:43:29,013 --> 00:43:33,613
Speaker 2: was that there's hundreds of bluebans, hundreds of red bands,

874
00:43:33,613 --> 00:43:35,652
Speaker 2: and then there's only one little green bin. And that

875
00:43:35,773 --> 00:43:37,973
Speaker 2: was my point. And so you thought I was showing off.

876
00:43:38,493 --> 00:43:40,692
Speaker 3: I thought all this time you were so proud because

877
00:43:40,693 --> 00:43:43,373
Speaker 3: it was your green bend. But all along you were saying,

878
00:43:43,493 --> 00:43:45,212
Speaker 3: this is just such a waste of time.

879
00:43:45,253 --> 00:43:47,373
Speaker 2: I'm so embarrassed about all those taps. I'm embarrassed now

880
00:43:47,413 --> 00:43:50,013
Speaker 2: as well. I'm just thinking, oh man, no, no, see,

881
00:43:50,013 --> 00:43:51,293
Speaker 2: it was exactly. I was just going, look at the

882
00:43:51,293 --> 00:43:53,213
Speaker 2: stupid little green bean. Only one person uses it.

883
00:43:53,213 --> 00:43:55,373
Speaker 3: I didn't want to break your little heart by saying,

884
00:43:55,413 --> 00:43:56,413
Speaker 3: why are you putting that out?

885
00:43:56,413 --> 00:43:56,613
Speaker 16: Mate?

886
00:43:56,653 --> 00:43:58,613
Speaker 2: Nobody does. I was wondering why you were six and

887
00:43:59,093 --> 00:44:03,133
Speaker 2: good on your mate. Congratulations, Yeah, all right in the show.

888
00:44:04,333 --> 00:44:05,733
Speaker 17: Okay, thank here, gentlemen.

889
00:44:05,853 --> 00:44:06,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, God, what do you reckon?

890
00:44:08,173 --> 00:44:08,813
Speaker 15: I reckon?

891
00:44:09,013 --> 00:44:12,013
Speaker 17: It's a hard one. I've born rides on a farm,

892
00:44:12,293 --> 00:44:16,853
Speaker 17: and doesn't matter where your farm was to be to

893
00:44:16,893 --> 00:44:20,212
Speaker 17: click your milk, so it just it just came out

894
00:44:20,253 --> 00:44:22,373
Speaker 17: of a pool. So they wanted milk to you know,

895
00:44:22,533 --> 00:44:24,212
Speaker 17: make money out of. So that was just the way

896
00:44:24,293 --> 00:44:27,172
Speaker 17: is everybody paid. There's no so you pay them all

897
00:44:27,173 --> 00:44:29,212
Speaker 17: because you're another fifty k up the rail. It all

898
00:44:29,213 --> 00:44:31,133
Speaker 17: goes in the pool and they work out that's what

899
00:44:31,213 --> 00:44:36,613
Speaker 17: you get paid to kilogram or whatever if for your produce.

900
00:44:37,133 --> 00:44:38,373
Speaker 17: And that's the way it is. In the same as

901
00:44:38,373 --> 00:44:40,613
Speaker 17: they counts. They can't do it. A customer shiploads on

902
00:44:40,693 --> 00:44:44,213
Speaker 17: our administration pieces and minister. They basically they make it

903
00:44:44,293 --> 00:44:45,933
Speaker 17: overall costing and that's.

904
00:44:45,813 --> 00:44:46,733
Speaker 4: One as you can't do that.

905
00:44:46,853 --> 00:44:48,613
Speaker 17: They just got drive them mad.

906
00:44:49,733 --> 00:44:52,212
Speaker 3: So this idea, you think that's they've hit the balance, right,

907
00:44:52,253 --> 00:44:54,933
Speaker 3: do you? Because it's it seems pretty easy to register it.

908
00:44:54,973 --> 00:44:56,853
Speaker 3: They've all got these little tags and when they get

909
00:44:56,853 --> 00:44:59,373
Speaker 3: picked up beat beats so that registers to your property.

910
00:44:59,573 --> 00:45:01,373
Speaker 3: That's an easy way to do it. But if we're talking,

911
00:45:01,533 --> 00:45:04,133
Speaker 3: you know, mowing your burns, how do they figure out

912
00:45:04,133 --> 00:45:05,733
Speaker 3: who's mode the boom and who isn't?

913
00:45:07,613 --> 00:45:10,413
Speaker 17: Well, yes, think that's really probably you know you do

914
00:45:10,493 --> 00:45:12,333
Speaker 17: you want them to come around and mow your lines

915
00:45:12,333 --> 00:45:13,373
Speaker 17: and your rates will go up?

916
00:45:16,053 --> 00:45:18,533
Speaker 2: I don't know. But what about when they take services

917
00:45:18,573 --> 00:45:21,453
Speaker 2: away but don't take your rates bring your rates down?

918
00:45:21,853 --> 00:45:24,652
Speaker 2: Like when they stop mowing booms? In Auckland. They didn't

919
00:45:24,653 --> 00:45:27,933
Speaker 2: suddenly lower the rates, did.

920
00:45:27,733 --> 00:45:32,693
Speaker 17: They oh doing that like the council parks or whatever.

921
00:45:32,733 --> 00:45:34,893
Speaker 17: You must say, well, you're not. We've been paying your

922
00:45:34,973 --> 00:45:37,652
Speaker 17: rates for this has been going on for so long. Well, now,

923
00:45:37,773 --> 00:45:39,613
Speaker 17: like you say, I do agree, I want to reduction

924
00:45:39,693 --> 00:45:41,653
Speaker 17: my rates so that you're not cutting those booms anymore.

925
00:45:41,693 --> 00:45:44,212
Speaker 17: But when it comes to your residential booms, I think

926
00:45:44,253 --> 00:45:48,813
Speaker 17: that's basically I think it's probably your responsibility or do

927
00:45:48,813 --> 00:45:52,613
Speaker 17: you want men to come around? And then also you

928
00:45:52,653 --> 00:45:54,013
Speaker 17: got to watch out on that one too, because what

929
00:45:54,053 --> 00:45:56,093
Speaker 17: they might say is, Okay, we'll come around and park

930
00:45:56,173 --> 00:45:58,173
Speaker 17: on your booms, and you're also going to charge you

931
00:45:58,373 --> 00:45:59,373
Speaker 17: for parking on your boom.

932
00:45:59,533 --> 00:46:03,013
Speaker 2: You like that because I actually enjoy miwing my booms

933
00:46:03,013 --> 00:46:04,893
Speaker 2: to the point while I'm mowing my neighbor's booms as well,

934
00:46:04,893 --> 00:46:07,453
Speaker 2: because I just know I just enjoyed mowing. Yeah, I

935
00:46:07,453 --> 00:46:09,533
Speaker 2: think a lot of people out there probably enjoy moing.

936
00:46:09,533 --> 00:46:13,053
Speaker 2: This is something very bit cathartic about it. I absolutely

937
00:46:13,173 --> 00:46:15,133
Speaker 2: love it. But I also believe if you mow your

938
00:46:15,133 --> 00:46:16,653
Speaker 2: own booms, then you can do whatever you want on

939
00:46:16,693 --> 00:46:19,173
Speaker 2: your booms. That's why I planted a massive a herdic

940
00:46:19,613 --> 00:46:21,813
Speaker 2: tree on there. I've seen that.

941
00:46:21,813 --> 00:46:23,533
Speaker 3: It's a good looking tree. Yeah, it's too late now

942
00:46:23,533 --> 00:46:25,453
Speaker 3: they can't do anything about that. It's protected now.

943
00:46:25,613 --> 00:46:28,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, I fear from my neighbors piping, but anyway, that's

944
00:46:28,613 --> 00:46:32,212
Speaker 2: another issue. But yeah, I mean so if you could

945
00:46:32,253 --> 00:46:34,693
Speaker 2: take if if every time they took off a service

946
00:46:34,733 --> 00:46:37,453
Speaker 2: PETE or offered you to opt out of a service,

947
00:46:37,533 --> 00:46:41,253
Speaker 2: they lowered your rates, then maybe I would support that.

948
00:46:41,253 --> 00:46:42,813
Speaker 2: I mean, what would you opt out of PETE if

949
00:46:42,813 --> 00:46:43,093
Speaker 2: you could?

950
00:46:45,293 --> 00:46:45,413
Speaker 5: Uh.

951
00:46:46,733 --> 00:46:48,853
Speaker 17: Oh, that's a hard one because most of them they

952
00:46:48,893 --> 00:46:50,333
Speaker 17: have a rubbish in it, So what do you do?

953
00:46:51,253 --> 00:46:55,933
Speaker 17: They don't collect it, they use that service. But overall,

954
00:46:55,933 --> 00:46:58,533
Speaker 17: you can't please everybody. As I said before, you have

955
00:46:58,533 --> 00:47:02,933
Speaker 17: they have a happy medium otherwise. Yeah, it's a hard one.

956
00:47:02,973 --> 00:47:04,653
Speaker 17: The plus I said, it's hard to please everybody. I

957
00:47:04,693 --> 00:47:08,413
Speaker 17: think the counsel they think they're doing the best. If

958
00:47:08,453 --> 00:47:11,213
Speaker 17: you want to start saying, oh I only want to

959
00:47:11,293 --> 00:47:13,613
Speaker 17: use it, if you come in and pick mine up

960
00:47:13,653 --> 00:47:16,053
Speaker 17: every two weeks or what do the trucks still want

961
00:47:16,053 --> 00:47:19,373
Speaker 17: to go past? Or probably whether you don't want it,

962
00:47:19,413 --> 00:47:21,373
Speaker 17: but the next house does and the next one. Now

963
00:47:21,613 --> 00:47:24,253
Speaker 17: there just be too much. Yeah, have a hassle for them,

964
00:47:24,253 --> 00:47:25,853
Speaker 17: and I think you just got to put all on

965
00:47:25,893 --> 00:47:28,172
Speaker 17: the pool and they work it out. Sorry, we can't say, Lord,

966
00:47:28,173 --> 00:47:29,652
Speaker 17: do you want to get rid of the wrong library too?

967
00:47:29,653 --> 00:47:30,373
Speaker 17: Where do you stop?

968
00:47:30,453 --> 00:47:32,813
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, thanks for you call, Pete, appreciate it.

969
00:47:32,853 --> 00:47:34,493
Speaker 3: I'm just having a look at my rates bill here

970
00:47:34,653 --> 00:47:36,172
Speaker 3: and there's a couple of things I'd like to opt

971
00:47:36,173 --> 00:47:37,973
Speaker 3: out of. Can I just run you through a couple

972
00:47:38,013 --> 00:47:41,293
Speaker 3: of them here? So at the moment for waste minimization,

973
00:47:41,373 --> 00:47:43,013
Speaker 3: I pay one hundred and seventy six bucks a quarter.

974
00:47:43,053 --> 00:47:45,373
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. They take my bins away. The

975
00:47:45,453 --> 00:47:48,213
Speaker 3: Heritage Arts Center, I pay two bucks a quarter. I

976
00:47:48,213 --> 00:47:49,933
Speaker 3: want out of that. I've never been to the Heritage

977
00:47:49,973 --> 00:47:51,613
Speaker 3: Art Center. I don't want to be paying two bucks

978
00:47:51,653 --> 00:47:53,573
Speaker 3: a quarter for that. You know, that's six dollars a

979
00:47:53,653 --> 00:47:56,693
Speaker 3: year that I could be happily spending on a coffee.

980
00:47:56,773 --> 00:47:59,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it's a slippery slope there, though, Tyler,

981
00:47:59,253 --> 00:48:01,172
Speaker 2: isn't it who pays for motat in Auckland? Because God,

982
00:48:01,173 --> 00:48:04,453
Speaker 2: I love Motat, So I don't want people that don't

983
00:48:04,453 --> 00:48:06,652
Speaker 2: go to motet not contributing. If Motat is paid for

984
00:48:06,773 --> 00:48:07,613
Speaker 2: by the council.

985
00:48:07,453 --> 00:48:10,453
Speaker 3: You might take on the bell. Oh one hundred eighty

986
00:48:10,573 --> 00:48:13,013
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. What would you

987
00:48:13,093 --> 00:48:15,613
Speaker 3: opt out of if you could? From your rates bill?

988
00:48:15,733 --> 00:48:17,213
Speaker 3: Really keen to hear from you. And is this a

989
00:48:17,253 --> 00:48:19,413
Speaker 3: good idea by the Napier City Council giving you a

990
00:48:19,493 --> 00:48:21,652
Speaker 3: discount for not putting out your bins so much?

991
00:48:21,693 --> 00:48:24,333
Speaker 2: And side topic, is it all right that I sneak

992
00:48:24,373 --> 00:48:26,133
Speaker 2: out at night and put my rubbish in other people's

993
00:48:26,133 --> 00:48:28,013
Speaker 2: bins before they get picked up the next morning? This

994
00:48:28,093 --> 00:48:29,933
Speaker 2: Texas says, Matt, don't break the law and put your

995
00:48:29,973 --> 00:48:32,413
Speaker 2: rubbish in other people's bins because God will give you

996
00:48:32,453 --> 00:48:35,693
Speaker 2: a spanky spanky after God invented spanky spanky.

997
00:48:35,853 --> 00:48:39,333
Speaker 3: Yeah I did, Yeah, Yeah, yeah, very true. Spanky spanky alright.

998
00:48:39,373 --> 00:48:41,533
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is another to call.

999
00:48:41,573 --> 00:48:43,773
Speaker 3: Eighteen to eighteen bus two s.

1000
00:48:47,173 --> 00:48:48,653
Speaker 7: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams.

1001
00:48:48,653 --> 00:48:51,933
Speaker 1: Afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on used

1002
00:48:51,973 --> 00:48:52,973
Speaker 1: talk ZV for a.

1003
00:48:52,933 --> 00:48:55,453
Speaker 3: Good afternoons you. So we're talking about the Napiers City Council.

1004
00:48:55,493 --> 00:48:58,172
Speaker 3: They are offering a rates discount for people who take

1005
00:48:58,213 --> 00:49:01,293
Speaker 3: their bins out twenty six times or fewer each year.

1006
00:49:01,453 --> 00:49:03,013
Speaker 3: And we are going to have a chat to Stephanie

1007
00:49:03,053 --> 00:49:06,773
Speaker 3: Wilson shares the n APR Council's waste minimization lead. So

1008
00:49:06,853 --> 00:49:09,692
Speaker 3: if you've got a question for stuff nine two ninety two,

1009
00:49:10,213 --> 00:49:13,212
Speaker 3: but looking forward Devan who on in about ten minutes time.

1010
00:49:13,253 --> 00:49:14,373
Speaker 3: But we're taking your calls on this.

1011
00:49:14,573 --> 00:49:16,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the secondary topic, because I didn't know you

1012
00:49:16,573 --> 00:49:19,013
Speaker 2: weren't supposed to sneak around at night like a ninja

1013
00:49:19,053 --> 00:49:21,733
Speaker 2: and put your excess rubbish in other people's recycling bins

1014
00:49:21,773 --> 00:49:23,933
Speaker 2: and rubbish bins, because once it was out on the street,

1015
00:49:23,933 --> 00:49:25,732
Speaker 2: they're like, what difference do make to you? The next

1016
00:49:25,733 --> 00:49:29,533
Speaker 2: stopp is the refuse refuse transfer center and it all

1017
00:49:29,573 --> 00:49:30,853
Speaker 2: gets mixed up anyway in the.

1018
00:49:30,813 --> 00:49:32,773
Speaker 3: Truck and no one's getting to discount up here at

1019
00:49:32,773 --> 00:49:33,253
Speaker 3: this stage.

1020
00:49:33,373 --> 00:49:35,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean, and then that would be the

1021
00:49:36,013 --> 00:49:38,493
Speaker 2: way you hack this system, right, So you know, on

1022
00:49:38,493 --> 00:49:40,053
Speaker 2: your on weeks you put it out in your and

1023
00:49:40,093 --> 00:49:42,133
Speaker 2: your wheelibin, on your off weeks you ram it into

1024
00:49:42,133 --> 00:49:43,533
Speaker 2: your neighbors wheibin hundred.

1025
00:49:43,293 --> 00:49:45,893
Speaker 3: Percent, oh eight hundred eighty and eighty is met me?

1026
00:49:46,733 --> 00:49:48,973
Speaker 2: This busines says, if I catch you putting stuff in

1027
00:49:48,973 --> 00:49:52,133
Speaker 2: my bin, I'll taser you, Matt. Yeah, good work, I've

1028
00:49:52,133 --> 00:49:54,933
Speaker 2: been tasted before. I think that's I think I don't

1029
00:49:54,933 --> 00:49:57,693
Speaker 2: think the punishment fits the crime on that. Maybe just

1030
00:49:57,893 --> 00:50:02,053
Speaker 2: splash me with a garden hose, Jeff, how are you mate?

1031
00:50:03,213 --> 00:50:03,853
Speaker 4: Get it? Mate?

1032
00:50:04,093 --> 00:50:06,613
Speaker 18: Maybe you need a spanky, spanky mate.

1033
00:50:06,653 --> 00:50:08,813
Speaker 2: I quite like the sound of a spanky I might

1034
00:50:08,853 --> 00:50:10,133
Speaker 2: to spanky spanking from some people.

1035
00:50:10,213 --> 00:50:12,493
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's random.

1036
00:50:12,493 --> 00:50:15,853
Speaker 18: Anyway. I want to talk about the green bins and

1037
00:50:16,133 --> 00:50:19,772
Speaker 18: why Auckland does have such a hate for them. I mean,

1038
00:50:19,933 --> 00:50:22,333
Speaker 18: if you could, if you could someone said to you

1039
00:50:22,413 --> 00:50:27,253
Speaker 18: that said, hey, look guys, we're going to reduce dumps,

1040
00:50:27,853 --> 00:50:30,933
Speaker 18: reduce refuse, and we're also going to make a product

1041
00:50:30,973 --> 00:50:34,173
Speaker 18: that can help things grow. Wouldn't you jump at it and

1042
00:50:34,173 --> 00:50:38,133
Speaker 18: say that's a great idea, because that's what green bins are, right.

1043
00:50:38,253 --> 00:50:39,933
Speaker 18: They reduce a lot of our.

1044
00:50:39,893 --> 00:50:44,413
Speaker 19: Waste that's going into landfill, huge amount, and a lot

1045
00:50:44,453 --> 00:50:48,133
Speaker 19: of that waste is used to make composts, really good

1046
00:50:48,133 --> 00:50:51,773
Speaker 19: composts that then councils and companies buy back off the

1047
00:50:52,813 --> 00:50:53,693
Speaker 19: waste places.

1048
00:50:54,253 --> 00:50:58,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that system that you know, that may be

1049
00:50:58,253 --> 00:51:02,173
Speaker 2: a virtuous system, but systems also have to be practical

1050
00:51:02,173 --> 00:51:04,613
Speaker 2: and people actually use them, if you know what I mean.

1051
00:51:04,693 --> 00:51:07,053
Speaker 2: So that sounds fantastic the way you put it. But

1052
00:51:07,133 --> 00:51:09,813
Speaker 2: then when we look when people like me just use

1053
00:51:09,853 --> 00:51:12,773
Speaker 2: the insincorator and just blast everything down there, then it's

1054
00:51:12,813 --> 00:51:14,813
Speaker 2: hard for me to change my habit habits. And then

1055
00:51:15,013 --> 00:51:17,213
Speaker 2: because what do you dow?

1056
00:51:17,893 --> 00:51:19,733
Speaker 18: Is it hard for you, Matt or for you just

1057
00:51:19,733 --> 00:51:22,573
Speaker 18: being stubborn, Like seriously, I'm not you know, I'm not

1058
00:51:22,653 --> 00:51:25,533
Speaker 18: like my parents who've got leftovers for Africa and the

1059
00:51:25,533 --> 00:51:29,293
Speaker 18: freezer and you know that, you know they recycle with everything. Yeah,

1060
00:51:29,293 --> 00:51:32,252
Speaker 18: I'm somewhere in the middle, and I use a green

1061
00:51:32,293 --> 00:51:34,293
Speaker 18: bin and I don't find the hat at all. You

1062
00:51:34,413 --> 00:51:36,652
Speaker 18: just chucked in ice can contain on the bench from

1063
00:51:36,653 --> 00:51:39,093
Speaker 18: the fridge, chuck my scraps in there, and then at

1064
00:51:39,093 --> 00:51:40,853
Speaker 18: the end of the night day they go in the

1065
00:51:40,853 --> 00:51:43,733
Speaker 18: green burn. I washed out once every couple of months,

1066
00:51:43,733 --> 00:51:45,252
Speaker 18: like it doesn't even smell that bad.

1067
00:51:46,013 --> 00:51:48,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's I tell you what. That's

1068
00:51:48,733 --> 00:51:50,453
Speaker 2: one thing to say about it is it's very easy

1069
00:51:50,693 --> 00:51:52,413
Speaker 2: to wash out. And they did put the little you

1070
00:51:52,493 --> 00:51:53,853
Speaker 2: got the little liners in there as well.

1071
00:51:53,933 --> 00:51:58,053
Speaker 19: So for the sake of our wiled Matt, come on,

1072
00:51:58,533 --> 00:51:59,973
Speaker 19: I tell you what it does feel for me.

1073
00:52:00,013 --> 00:52:01,692
Speaker 2: It feels a little bit like one of those free

1074
00:52:01,693 --> 00:52:03,813
Speaker 2: gifts that you got from the supermarket for spending a

1075
00:52:03,813 --> 00:52:05,493
Speaker 2: certain amount of money. You know that you've got the little,

1076
00:52:05,813 --> 00:52:08,253
Speaker 2: tiny little milk bottle. It's like a tiny little wily

1077
00:52:08,413 --> 00:52:11,853
Speaker 2: in some I'm not quite sure how to deal with it.

1078
00:52:11,853 --> 00:52:14,293
Speaker 2: It's a funny little bit. Yeah, it's kind of cute.

1079
00:52:14,293 --> 00:52:17,573
Speaker 2: Now what do you say? What do you say to

1080
00:52:17,573 --> 00:52:19,573
Speaker 2: people like me that put their funny little green bin

1081
00:52:19,853 --> 00:52:21,573
Speaker 2: into the blue recycling bin.

1082
00:52:24,573 --> 00:52:27,493
Speaker 18: I don't know why you were doing that was there?

1083
00:52:27,773 --> 00:52:28,733
Speaker 3: He wants it recycled.

1084
00:52:30,053 --> 00:52:32,093
Speaker 2: I didn't want to just throw it out, so at

1085
00:52:32,173 --> 00:52:34,093
Speaker 2: least I recycled it.

1086
00:52:34,133 --> 00:52:35,853
Speaker 3: So it was a half middle figure to the council.

1087
00:52:35,893 --> 00:52:37,173
Speaker 3: But he did the right thing in the end.

1088
00:52:37,813 --> 00:52:39,813
Speaker 4: I hope the truck leaves it there and you kind

1089
00:52:39,813 --> 00:52:40,293
Speaker 4: of pip.

1090
00:52:42,813 --> 00:52:44,853
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Jeff, though I agree with you,

1091
00:52:45,093 --> 00:52:47,973
Speaker 2: I agree with you. You might be surprised, jif. For a

1092
00:52:48,053 --> 00:52:50,533
Speaker 2: very long time I did run my own composting situation

1093
00:52:50,653 --> 00:52:53,373
Speaker 2: in the yard, and I found that very satisfying.

1094
00:52:53,453 --> 00:52:53,652
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1095
00:52:55,813 --> 00:52:57,533
Speaker 18: I love running a compost. You know, you get the

1096
00:52:57,773 --> 00:52:58,813
Speaker 18: shells in their bit of brack.

1097
00:52:59,213 --> 00:53:02,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels there's something that feels so good and

1098
00:53:02,253 --> 00:53:04,493
Speaker 2: natural and like you're in line with your you know,

1099
00:53:04,533 --> 00:53:07,413
Speaker 2: your DNA. When you sprinkle your own compost on your

1100
00:53:07,413 --> 00:53:10,133
Speaker 2: own garden. It feels you guys are weirdos. You guys

1101
00:53:10,533 --> 00:53:11,013
Speaker 2: it weirdos.

1102
00:53:11,093 --> 00:53:13,533
Speaker 18: One of one of your one of your colleagues. Hitherto

1103
00:53:13,693 --> 00:53:15,813
Speaker 18: see Ellen. You know, she goes on about it, bangs

1104
00:53:15,813 --> 00:53:18,933
Speaker 18: on about it being what a waste of time, the

1105
00:53:18,933 --> 00:53:21,413
Speaker 18: green bend. I think that's dangerous. That's almost trumpish.

1106
00:53:21,493 --> 00:53:21,692
Speaker 4: You know.

1107
00:53:22,133 --> 00:53:25,733
Speaker 18: She should be on planet's side and expousing the virtues

1108
00:53:25,773 --> 00:53:26,413
Speaker 18: of the green bend.

1109
00:53:27,053 --> 00:53:32,693
Speaker 2: M Yeah, well you know, yeah, maybe I'll tell you

1110
00:53:32,733 --> 00:53:34,413
Speaker 2: what I wouldn't Jeff. But I'm scared of him that

1111
00:53:34,653 --> 00:53:36,373
Speaker 2: see Allen, So I won't pass it on. We all are.

1112
00:53:37,493 --> 00:53:41,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll pass the notes in.

1113
00:53:41,693 --> 00:53:42,692
Speaker 2: Just say it's from Uji.

1114
00:53:45,413 --> 00:53:50,733
Speaker 3: Thanks, you go well Zealand. Absolutely eighty is the number

1115
00:53:50,733 --> 00:53:52,293
Speaker 3: to call. Nine two nine two if you want to

1116
00:53:52,333 --> 00:53:54,413
Speaker 3: send the tikes, plenty of those coming through.

1117
00:53:54,853 --> 00:53:56,773
Speaker 2: If you put your rubbish in my burn and the

1118
00:53:56,813 --> 00:53:59,893
Speaker 2: council rejects my bend, then I am going to come

1119
00:53:59,973 --> 00:54:04,013
Speaker 2: for you. No, I only put legitimate rubbish.

1120
00:54:04,173 --> 00:54:06,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm not going around a contrabands going in there.

1121
00:54:06,813 --> 00:54:09,173
Speaker 2: I'm not putting toxic ways in there.

1122
00:54:09,253 --> 00:54:11,133
Speaker 3: Are cheeky beattery from time to time.

1123
00:54:11,173 --> 00:54:13,893
Speaker 2: I'm just putting the normal household waste that I don't

1124
00:54:14,013 --> 00:54:15,573
Speaker 2: have room for in my bin because I forgot to

1125
00:54:15,613 --> 00:54:17,533
Speaker 2: take the bins out last week. That's basically all I'm

1126
00:54:17,573 --> 00:54:20,493
Speaker 2: doing there. You're a good neighbor halfway anyway, But it

1127
00:54:20,493 --> 00:54:22,732
Speaker 2: looks like, yeah, boy, there's a rising tide of people

1128
00:54:22,773 --> 00:54:24,253
Speaker 2: that want to taser me on a number of issues.

1129
00:54:24,293 --> 00:54:26,013
Speaker 3: A lot of people angry at you. And it's twenty

1130
00:54:26,053 --> 00:54:27,573
Speaker 3: six bars do here, line's coming.

1131
00:54:27,453 --> 00:54:32,653
Speaker 13: Up, Jew's talk sa'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis

1132
00:54:32,653 --> 00:54:35,893
Speaker 13: it's no trouble with a blue bubble and alarming health

1133
00:54:35,933 --> 00:54:39,213
Speaker 13: and well being reports renewing the push for a wealth tax,

1134
00:54:39,533 --> 00:54:43,213
Speaker 13: the public health advisory committees determining our future. There's the

1135
00:54:43,253 --> 00:54:46,652
Speaker 13: first look at the social, economic, and cultural determinants of

1136
00:54:46,693 --> 00:54:50,733
Speaker 13: health since nineteen ninety eight. For the meetings on tariffs,

1137
00:54:50,773 --> 00:54:53,493
Speaker 13: As New Zealand's Trade minister makes his case in the States,

1138
00:54:53,773 --> 00:54:56,493
Speaker 13: Todd McLay has been meeting with trade officials and raising

1139
00:54:56,573 --> 00:55:01,013
Speaker 13: concerns over fifteen percent tariffs and how they disadvantage global

1140
00:55:01,053 --> 00:55:05,933
Speaker 13: Trade and consumers. The Prime Minister celebrating Fonterra's potential sale

1141
00:55:05,973 --> 00:55:08,453
Speaker 13: of its consumer arm to a foreign dairy giant, and

1142
00:55:08,813 --> 00:55:11,453
Speaker 13: the Dairy co Op today ink to three point eight

1143
00:55:11,613 --> 00:55:16,533
Speaker 13: billion dollar deal with French firm lac darlits pending shareholder approval.

1144
00:55:17,253 --> 00:55:20,773
Speaker 13: Closure at both of ends of State Highway sixteen have

1145
00:55:20,933 --> 00:55:24,493
Speaker 13: now been lifted. Auckland's PortLINK was closed from the Southern,

1146
00:55:24,573 --> 00:55:28,653
Speaker 13: Northern and Northwestern motorways after a person died. The highway

1147
00:55:28,693 --> 00:55:32,453
Speaker 13: was also closed Nearernuepai after a truck driver crashed and

1148
00:55:32,573 --> 00:55:36,813
Speaker 13: was taken to hospital in a serious condition. Plus community concern.

1149
00:55:37,053 --> 00:55:40,533
Speaker 13: Auckland Deputy Mayor Deadsley Simpson on Saint John's housing scheme.

1150
00:55:40,773 --> 00:55:43,253
Speaker 13: Read more at ends at Herald Premium. Now back to

1151
00:55:43,293 --> 00:55:43,973
Speaker 13: Matt and Tyler.

1152
00:55:44,173 --> 00:55:45,373
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Wendy.

1153
00:55:45,413 --> 00:55:47,813
Speaker 3: So, as we've been discussing Napier residents who cut down

1154
00:55:47,813 --> 00:55:50,453
Speaker 3: they're weally been used by composting and recycling, could see

1155
00:55:50,453 --> 00:55:53,293
Speaker 3: their rape bills cut down too. To discuss further, we're

1156
00:55:53,373 --> 00:55:57,293
Speaker 3: joined by Stephanie Wilson. She is the naper City Council

1157
00:55:57,373 --> 00:56:01,213
Speaker 3: waste minimization lead and she's on the phone now Stephanie,

1158
00:56:01,253 --> 00:56:02,453
Speaker 3: thanks for joining us.

1159
00:56:02,973 --> 00:56:04,733
Speaker 5: Ah, You're very welcome. Kyoto everyone.

1160
00:56:05,173 --> 00:56:08,692
Speaker 2: So what is an RFID tag? How does this and work?

1161
00:56:09,933 --> 00:56:12,853
Speaker 5: So? An RFID tag is a little tag that is

1162
00:56:12,893 --> 00:56:17,853
Speaker 5: attached to each wheeliburn and it's it's exactly as it says.

1163
00:56:17,973 --> 00:56:21,653
Speaker 5: It tags a bin and you are able to identify

1164
00:56:22,813 --> 00:56:26,333
Speaker 5: the bin to a certain adreates, right, and that's how

1165
00:56:26,373 --> 00:56:29,053
Speaker 5: we can We can they know that ben belongs to

1166
00:56:29,173 --> 00:56:31,333
Speaker 5: that ad rate and we know that we've lifted it

1167
00:56:31,453 --> 00:56:33,212
Speaker 5: or we know that we have not lifted it because

1168
00:56:33,213 --> 00:56:35,213
Speaker 5: they've not put it out right.

1169
00:56:35,413 --> 00:56:37,573
Speaker 2: Okay, I say right, So you know at the end

1170
00:56:37,573 --> 00:56:39,813
Speaker 2: of the year, you know how many times you've emptied

1171
00:56:39,813 --> 00:56:40,533
Speaker 2: the bin? How clever?

1172
00:56:41,333 --> 00:56:44,652
Speaker 5: Yeah, So a little bit like what's those things the

1173
00:56:44,693 --> 00:56:47,293
Speaker 5: apple tags or let's say you can put on your bag.

1174
00:56:47,373 --> 00:56:48,933
Speaker 5: You know where your bag goes, you know where being

1175
00:56:48,973 --> 00:56:51,413
Speaker 5: bin is. But yeah, we use it in terms of

1176
00:56:51,933 --> 00:56:54,653
Speaker 5: knowing how many times we've lifted a bin. We'll be

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00:56:54,693 --> 00:56:58,653
Speaker 5: able to track and monitor so that that leastwise incentive

1178
00:56:58,693 --> 00:56:59,133
Speaker 5: can apply.

1179
00:56:59,493 --> 00:57:02,013
Speaker 2: What a wonderful future world we live. And can you

1180
00:57:02,053 --> 00:57:04,293
Speaker 2: opt out? So if you're going along, so and that

1181
00:57:04,373 --> 00:57:07,693
Speaker 2: just means if you opt back in so you suddenly

1182
00:57:07,733 --> 00:57:09,333
Speaker 2: one week you get, oh, I've got heaps of rubbish

1183
00:57:09,333 --> 00:57:11,093
Speaker 2: this week, I'm going to put it out. That sort

1184
00:57:11,093 --> 00:57:12,173
Speaker 2: of covers that off, doesn't it.

1185
00:57:12,853 --> 00:57:15,333
Speaker 5: Yeah, So yeah, if you don't put it out, we

1186
00:57:15,773 --> 00:57:18,733
Speaker 5: will go past and because we've not lifted something, we

1187
00:57:18,773 --> 00:57:21,573
Speaker 5: wouldn't know that it's there, and then the system would

1188
00:57:21,613 --> 00:57:24,253
Speaker 5: just go no, nothing was lifted. And that is previously

1189
00:57:24,253 --> 00:57:26,653
Speaker 5: people had to follow a fourth night a calendar, and

1190
00:57:26,733 --> 00:57:30,813
Speaker 5: so we're taking we're removing that barrier now and you

1191
00:57:30,853 --> 00:57:33,253
Speaker 5: can forget about the next week and then oh no,

1192
00:57:33,493 --> 00:57:36,333
Speaker 5: next week, the following week, you've got pop it out there.

1193
00:57:37,133 --> 00:57:40,573
Speaker 5: And if you get lost and like how many times

1194
00:57:40,613 --> 00:57:43,813
Speaker 5: you've done it within your twelve months period, you can

1195
00:57:43,853 --> 00:57:45,653
Speaker 5: call us up and we can look up your address,

1196
00:57:45,813 --> 00:57:48,293
Speaker 5: provided you've obviously applied to be part of the same

1197
00:57:48,293 --> 00:57:50,453
Speaker 5: week and set up and go, yep, you're on track.

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00:57:51,333 --> 00:57:54,133
Speaker 5: You definitely have flipped it or put it in out

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00:57:54,133 --> 00:57:56,173
Speaker 5: twelve times for the year or something like that.

1200
00:57:56,333 --> 00:57:57,933
Speaker 2: So you have to opt into this, So it's not

1201
00:57:57,973 --> 00:58:01,093
Speaker 2: going to be an RFID tag on every bin. You

1202
00:58:01,133 --> 00:58:02,693
Speaker 2: have to decide you want to be part of the program.

1203
00:58:02,733 --> 00:58:03,253
Speaker 2: Is that correct?

1204
00:58:03,933 --> 00:58:07,293
Speaker 5: Yeah, So every bond does come with an IFID tag

1205
00:58:07,413 --> 00:58:11,853
Speaker 5: on them. Ever, because our technology is slightly different on

1206
00:58:11,933 --> 00:58:14,813
Speaker 5: each on the trucks for the way operators that we

1207
00:58:14,933 --> 00:58:18,933
Speaker 5: use we monitor and track, it slightly different. So we

1208
00:58:19,013 --> 00:58:23,173
Speaker 5: do ask people to opt into the scheme if they

1209
00:58:23,213 --> 00:58:27,173
Speaker 5: are a property owner, and that way we can monitor

1210
00:58:27,533 --> 00:58:31,293
Speaker 5: that property. In particular, the only time you will need

1211
00:58:31,373 --> 00:58:36,293
Speaker 5: to reapply for it is if you've solved your house

1212
00:58:36,653 --> 00:58:38,853
Speaker 5: and you want to continue being on the scheme for

1213
00:58:38,973 --> 00:58:40,453
Speaker 5: the next property you purchase.

1214
00:58:40,733 --> 00:58:42,253
Speaker 2: Right well, only time you need to.

1215
00:58:42,173 --> 00:58:45,693
Speaker 3: Offer well thought through Stephanie. So what talk to us

1216
00:58:45,733 --> 00:58:48,413
Speaker 3: about money? How much could the average residents say if

1217
00:58:48,453 --> 00:58:51,333
Speaker 3: they are, you know, a good citizen and they only

1218
00:58:51,373 --> 00:58:53,253
Speaker 3: put their bins out twenty six times or fewer.

1219
00:58:54,773 --> 00:58:58,893
Speaker 5: It depends obviously on what you're right now, but it

1220
00:58:58,973 --> 00:59:02,653
Speaker 5: is that that small portion twenty five percent of the

1221
00:59:02,693 --> 00:59:05,973
Speaker 5: portion of what you pay. So it's not one hundred

1222
00:59:05,973 --> 00:59:09,293
Speaker 5: percenture exactly what the figures are because our rates have

1223
00:59:09,453 --> 00:59:11,733
Speaker 5: increased and I've not checked with our rates thing just yet,

1224
00:59:11,813 --> 00:59:16,333
Speaker 5: but as the twenty five percent off that individual rate,

1225
00:59:16,973 --> 00:59:18,853
Speaker 5: that's targeted rate for your rubbish collection?

1226
00:59:19,933 --> 00:59:22,573
Speaker 2: Now, what do you think of people like me? And

1227
00:59:22,653 --> 00:59:24,773
Speaker 2: this might sort of break the system. Who sneak out

1228
00:59:24,773 --> 00:59:27,053
Speaker 2: at night and put the extra rubbish in other people's bins.

1229
00:59:27,093 --> 00:59:30,173
Speaker 2: We call ourselves ben Ninja's or wheeli raiders. Will there

1230
00:59:30,373 --> 00:59:33,093
Speaker 2: patrols looking out for late night rubbish rogues.

1231
00:59:34,893 --> 00:59:37,973
Speaker 5: That's a difficult one to police right now. You need

1232
00:59:38,053 --> 00:59:41,653
Speaker 5: resources to do that. But in terms of during the day,

1233
00:59:42,093 --> 00:59:44,653
Speaker 5: our trucks are really smart. They've got about seven different

1234
00:59:44,693 --> 00:59:49,533
Speaker 5: cameras on each truck and often we've called people running

1235
00:59:49,533 --> 00:59:52,173
Speaker 5: across the right trying to put it out again.

1236
00:59:52,813 --> 00:59:54,853
Speaker 2: You publish those photos as well, Stiff, so that you

1237
00:59:54,893 --> 00:59:57,093
Speaker 2: have to be here. You have to be an organized

1238
00:59:57,253 --> 00:59:59,253
Speaker 2: wheelie raider. You can't do it as the truck's coming

1239
00:59:59,293 --> 01:00:01,613
Speaker 2: down the street because you forgot. Yes, you have to

1240
01:00:01,653 --> 01:00:04,333
Speaker 2: do it the night the night before. Would you support

1241
01:00:04,373 --> 01:00:07,533
Speaker 2: discounts across other council services like don't use the library

1242
01:00:07,573 --> 01:00:10,253
Speaker 2: pay list, don't you use the parks pay less, you know,

1243
01:00:10,413 --> 01:00:12,293
Speaker 2: don't cycle, don't pay for cycle lanes.

1244
01:00:13,333 --> 01:00:17,213
Speaker 5: Would I support something like that? Well, I don't think

1245
01:00:17,253 --> 01:00:19,453
Speaker 5: I such I can comment on that, like I do.

1246
01:00:19,573 --> 01:00:21,373
Speaker 5: Just pay your rights and you make sure that that's

1247
01:00:21,413 --> 01:00:23,093
Speaker 5: the city that you live in as a great place,

1248
01:00:23,133 --> 01:00:25,333
Speaker 5: and you tap into those amenities.

1249
01:00:24,893 --> 01:00:27,133
Speaker 2: That you can use, but you can see can you

1250
01:00:27,133 --> 01:00:29,133
Speaker 2: see what I'm saying? So if if you know, if

1251
01:00:29,133 --> 01:00:32,093
Speaker 2: they're picking up the bins as a service and that's

1252
01:00:32,133 --> 01:00:34,173
Speaker 2: going to be more you know, how much you use

1253
01:00:34,253 --> 01:00:36,373
Speaker 2: is how much you pay? Could you see that that

1254
01:00:36,413 --> 01:00:38,813
Speaker 2: could be rolled out across other services.

1255
01:00:39,613 --> 01:00:44,053
Speaker 5: It depends on on what the incentive is for that.

1256
01:00:44,253 --> 01:00:47,373
Speaker 5: For us, it is we want less ways to end

1257
01:00:47,453 --> 01:00:52,253
Speaker 5: up going to landfall. You're using a park, I don't. Yeah,

1258
01:00:52,293 --> 01:00:55,453
Speaker 5: that's my focus, that's my cobabba, that's my field of egretsy,

1259
01:00:55,573 --> 01:00:58,853
Speaker 5: So I can only talk about rubber, I think ruby.

1260
01:00:59,893 --> 01:01:03,293
Speaker 5: I've just been informed about the amount, the dollar figure

1261
01:01:03,333 --> 01:01:08,093
Speaker 5: that that you get off of your rub percentage per year.

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01:01:08,093 --> 01:01:11,613
Speaker 2: That's sixty dollars, all right, sixty bucks per years. Yeah,

1263
01:01:11,693 --> 01:01:15,173
Speaker 2: that's pretty good. Well yeah, Stiffaney, you can only talk

1264
01:01:15,213 --> 01:01:17,453
Speaker 2: about rubbish and I seem to only be able to

1265
01:01:17,453 --> 01:01:19,573
Speaker 2: talk rubbish. So we've got something in common. So thank

1266
01:01:19,573 --> 01:01:21,133
Speaker 2: you so much for talking to us today.

1267
01:01:21,813 --> 01:01:24,693
Speaker 5: And then yeah for people who have now applied, because

1268
01:01:24,973 --> 01:01:27,693
Speaker 5: people of the applications have just been splooting in which

1269
01:01:27,733 --> 01:01:31,133
Speaker 5: is amazing to see. Love reading the comments on Facebook

1270
01:01:31,173 --> 01:01:33,493
Speaker 5: that people are really doing the right thing and now

1271
01:01:33,533 --> 01:01:36,853
Speaker 5: being able to be rewarded for what they're doing. Is

1272
01:01:37,333 --> 01:01:40,613
Speaker 5: that once you've applied for it by the thirtieth of December,

1273
01:01:41,253 --> 01:01:45,093
Speaker 5: that rate remission will apply for the next rate of

1274
01:01:45,133 --> 01:01:45,533
Speaker 5: all year.

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01:01:45,813 --> 01:01:48,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, great, dear is getting a good response and

1276
01:01:48,493 --> 01:01:50,613
Speaker 3: all the best with that, Stiffaney. And if you catch

1277
01:01:50,613 --> 01:01:52,773
Speaker 3: people like Matt going into the middle of the night

1278
01:01:52,813 --> 01:01:55,973
Speaker 3: putting rubbish in other people's bins, if you can publish

1279
01:01:55,973 --> 01:01:57,733
Speaker 3: those photos, I think you'll do every favor.

1280
01:01:57,813 --> 01:02:01,933
Speaker 2: You'll never see me. I'm like a ghost. You wouldn't

1281
01:02:01,933 --> 01:02:03,373
Speaker 2: see me. The cameras will pick me up.

1282
01:02:05,413 --> 01:02:08,493
Speaker 5: Who knows. There might be some infrare technology.

1283
01:02:07,853 --> 01:02:11,533
Speaker 3: Out now you're talking, now you're talking. Yeah, you're a

1284
01:02:11,573 --> 01:02:13,733
Speaker 3: good sport. Thank you very much having a chat with us, Stiffney.

1285
01:02:14,373 --> 01:02:16,373
Speaker 2: Oh good guys, have a good way you too. That

1286
01:02:16,533 --> 01:02:17,453
Speaker 2: is Nake's see.

1287
01:02:17,533 --> 01:02:20,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is that is Napier City Council Waste minimizationally

1288
01:02:20,573 --> 01:02:21,773
Speaker 3: Stephney Wilson.

1289
01:02:22,653 --> 01:02:25,773
Speaker 2: She was backing it wholeheartedly. She certainly was. Will you

1290
01:02:25,773 --> 01:02:30,573
Speaker 2: expected to yes, the Napier City Council Waste Minimization lead.

1291
01:02:31,213 --> 01:02:32,013
Speaker 2: She wasn't backing it.

1292
01:02:32,093 --> 01:02:34,133
Speaker 3: No, one's going to very true. Oh, eight one hundred

1293
01:02:34,213 --> 01:02:36,613
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. Would you like to see your council

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01:02:36,693 --> 01:02:37,413
Speaker 3: do something similar?

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01:02:37,413 --> 01:02:39,253
Speaker 2: Can you hear from you? It's twenty three to three.

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01:02:42,613 --> 01:02:45,773
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Tyler Adams taking your calls on oh, eight

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01:02:45,893 --> 01:02:48,333
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tyler

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01:02:48,373 --> 01:02:50,573
Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons News Talk said be.

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Speaker 3: It is twenty to three. Now I owe you a

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01:02:53,493 --> 01:02:55,773
Speaker 3: bit of an apology, actually, Matt. Yeah, so there's a

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01:02:55,773 --> 01:02:58,213
Speaker 3: text that's come through. I'll read it out here. The

1302
01:02:58,293 --> 01:03:01,613
Speaker 3: joke about talking rubber should have had way harder. Matt

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01:03:01,653 --> 01:03:05,133
Speaker 3: Tyler should commend you publicly for that. Yes, absolutely, yeah,

1304
01:03:05,133 --> 01:03:05,493
Speaker 3: that's right.

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01:03:05,573 --> 01:03:10,253
Speaker 2: When I make a joke, I expect full it's side holding,

1306
01:03:10,653 --> 01:03:13,453
Speaker 2: side spilling laughter from you, Tyler. And there was none

1307
01:03:13,493 --> 01:03:14,333
Speaker 2: of that. There was none of that.

1308
01:03:14,413 --> 01:03:17,773
Speaker 3: So the line was to paraphrase you said to Stephane,

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01:03:17,853 --> 01:03:19,893
Speaker 3: who was fantastic. So you deal with rubbish and I

1310
01:03:19,933 --> 01:03:21,253
Speaker 3: talk a lot of rubbish, so we've got a lot

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01:03:21,253 --> 01:03:25,253
Speaker 3: in common here. Stefphaney laughed. She got it, and not

1312
01:03:25,293 --> 01:03:26,893
Speaker 3: a dicky bird from me. So I'm sorry mate.

1313
01:03:26,933 --> 01:03:31,133
Speaker 2: Now what I actually said, Tyler was, you know you

1314
01:03:31,173 --> 01:03:33,933
Speaker 2: can only talk about rubbish and Tyler can only talk rubbish,

1315
01:03:33,973 --> 01:03:35,413
Speaker 2: so you too have got a lot of comment. That's

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01:03:35,453 --> 01:03:36,773
Speaker 2: what I said, yeah, and that's why I didn't laugh.

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01:03:37,213 --> 01:03:39,013
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighties the number to call.

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01:03:39,133 --> 01:03:41,413
Speaker 2: This is a good point. The sex is sent through

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01:03:41,573 --> 01:03:44,613
Speaker 2: on nine twenty five percent discount for putting it out

1320
01:03:44,733 --> 01:03:47,733
Speaker 2: only fifty percent of the time that repee is getting

1321
01:03:47,773 --> 01:03:49,973
Speaker 2: ripped off. That's right. If it's if you're putting out

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01:03:50,013 --> 01:03:52,693
Speaker 2: half the time, why don't you give fifty percent off?

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01:03:52,853 --> 01:03:54,573
Speaker 3: Where were you when Stefphaney was on the line, We

1324
01:03:54,613 --> 01:03:56,293
Speaker 3: could have put that to her. It's a very good point.

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01:03:56,333 --> 01:03:58,013
Speaker 2: It's a great question. We'll try and follow that out.

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01:03:58,813 --> 01:04:01,053
Speaker 2: Jolly good idea. I say we put our bags out

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01:04:01,093 --> 01:04:04,053
Speaker 2: every five weeks approximately now in the countryside of Auckland.

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01:04:04,133 --> 01:04:06,453
Speaker 2: We are forced to use a bin, so as we

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01:04:06,453 --> 01:04:09,053
Speaker 2: pay for it, it will be used very often as

1330
01:04:09,093 --> 01:04:11,453
Speaker 2: we can't opt out. It's an interesting thing here. So

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01:04:11,573 --> 01:04:14,493
Speaker 2: if my landlord decides to join the to reduce as rates,

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01:04:14,533 --> 01:04:16,613
Speaker 2: then I get reduced service and the landlord gets the

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01:04:16,613 --> 01:04:17,093
Speaker 2: cost production.

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01:04:17,253 --> 01:04:18,613
Speaker 15: No what.

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01:04:18,973 --> 01:04:22,493
Speaker 2: Because of the RFI D tag, you can put it

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01:04:22,533 --> 01:04:24,893
Speaker 2: out as much as you want, so the landlord might

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01:04:24,933 --> 01:04:27,853
Speaker 2: opt in and hope that you put it out less

1338
01:04:27,933 --> 01:04:30,693
Speaker 2: or maybe even unethically put pressure on you to use

1339
01:04:30,773 --> 01:04:32,693
Speaker 2: less rubbish so they save some money. I guess it's

1340
01:04:32,693 --> 01:04:35,133
Speaker 2: not a lot. I mean it's sixty a year. Yeah,

1341
01:04:35,173 --> 01:04:36,893
Speaker 2: so I don't know how much pressure landord is going

1342
01:04:36,933 --> 01:04:40,093
Speaker 2: to put on you around the issue. But you know

1343
01:04:40,133 --> 01:04:41,733
Speaker 2: you get if you if you, if you need to

1344
01:04:41,733 --> 01:04:44,093
Speaker 2: put it out every week, then the RFI D tag

1345
01:04:44,133 --> 01:04:48,773
Speaker 2: will notice that and your landlord will pay the full rates. Yep, Yvon,

1346
01:04:49,453 --> 01:04:51,293
Speaker 2: how are you hi?

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01:04:51,853 --> 01:04:52,613
Speaker 20: Are you love you?

1348
01:04:52,693 --> 01:04:55,773
Speaker 8: Boys? Anyhow? That's getting onto it. We live in a

1349
01:04:55,773 --> 01:05:00,213
Speaker 8: walk close or we have an LG space and our

1350
01:05:00,333 --> 01:05:03,333
Speaker 8: rates tell us that we have to pay a huge

1351
01:05:03,333 --> 01:05:06,613
Speaker 8: amount foot polls and for transport, and of course we

1352
01:05:06,693 --> 01:05:10,013
Speaker 8: don't have anything. We had to go to Silverdart to

1353
01:05:10,093 --> 01:05:13,173
Speaker 8: get into a swimming pool and we don't have any

1354
01:05:13,253 --> 01:05:16,453
Speaker 8: trend but we have wonderful busset pops up around here

1355
01:05:16,973 --> 01:05:20,413
Speaker 8: three or four times per day Pagerson to walk withst.

1356
01:05:20,813 --> 01:05:26,213
Speaker 8: We simply don't get any other luxuries of being in Auckland.

1357
01:05:26,493 --> 01:05:29,533
Speaker 8: And we be here because we didn't want to be

1358
01:05:29,573 --> 01:05:34,213
Speaker 8: an Auckland. But boy, our rates are huge yes, I've.

1359
01:05:34,053 --> 01:05:37,493
Speaker 2: Been hearing about this and it does seem pretty unfair.

1360
01:05:37,533 --> 01:05:40,173
Speaker 2: And so if you took this napier waste management model,

1361
01:05:40,733 --> 01:05:44,453
Speaker 2: then you guys shouldn't pay for the services that you

1362
01:05:44,493 --> 01:05:47,133
Speaker 2: can't realistically use. You should get a discount for them.

1363
01:05:47,173 --> 01:05:50,613
Speaker 8: Right, they don't exist for us at all. So the

1364
01:05:50,693 --> 01:05:54,453
Speaker 8: general rate is three and forty one eighty seven. That's

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01:05:54,533 --> 01:05:58,573
Speaker 8: just for the general rate, and then for the parks

1366
01:05:58,613 --> 01:06:01,773
Speaker 8: and poles and library foot paths it's sixt hundred and

1367
01:06:01,813 --> 01:06:04,453
Speaker 8: four and then all the rest of it transports one

1368
01:06:04,533 --> 01:06:08,413
Speaker 8: hundred and first days and it just goes on on

1369
01:06:08,413 --> 01:06:13,093
Speaker 8: on five brands. And I mean, like sirrecally, you know,

1370
01:06:13,133 --> 01:06:15,413
Speaker 8: we've built our home, we go our home, We love

1371
01:06:15,573 --> 01:06:20,413
Speaker 8: where we are to see. But for a lot of people,

1372
01:06:20,533 --> 01:06:23,853
Speaker 8: if my huby didn't have a sleeper as tension as,

1373
01:06:23,893 --> 01:06:26,373
Speaker 8: we could not live in our beautiful home, and they're

1374
01:06:26,413 --> 01:06:29,053
Speaker 8: just rating so many people out from around here.

1375
01:06:29,733 --> 01:06:32,693
Speaker 2: Is there is there any sort of movement to push back?

1376
01:06:32,733 --> 01:06:34,573
Speaker 2: I think I was reading something the other day. Is

1377
01:06:34,613 --> 01:06:38,133
Speaker 2: there any way that you can directly partiyeh.

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01:06:37,333 --> 01:06:37,813
Speaker 19: There is.

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01:06:37,893 --> 01:06:41,373
Speaker 8: There's a man called Ivan wegg Staff who's really put

1380
01:06:41,453 --> 01:06:46,373
Speaker 8: the hours and he's doing something, and I definitely there

1381
01:06:46,453 --> 01:06:49,493
Speaker 8: is a movement against it. But I mean they told

1382
01:06:49,573 --> 01:06:53,413
Speaker 8: us five point eight, which is just bull because that's

1383
01:06:53,453 --> 01:06:59,053
Speaker 8: not what they sent us. And you know, like most people,

1384
01:06:59,093 --> 01:07:03,133
Speaker 8: we've had grouped all our lives and meet hell like

1385
01:07:03,293 --> 01:07:06,853
Speaker 8: seventy my hubby doing sixty nine. And we like our

1386
01:07:06,933 --> 01:07:10,733
Speaker 8: boating and fashin that stuff. But we paid our Jews

1387
01:07:10,773 --> 01:07:13,213
Speaker 8: and we're happy to pay rates for what we get.

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01:07:13,453 --> 01:07:15,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's absolutely fair enough.

1389
01:07:15,973 --> 01:07:18,453
Speaker 3: The power, yeah, I mean it is a hard one though,

1390
01:07:18,453 --> 01:07:20,253
Speaker 3: isn't it for people like a Vonn? And I get it.

1391
01:07:20,293 --> 01:07:22,253
Speaker 3: A von doesn't come into Auckland anymore if you get

1392
01:07:22,253 --> 01:07:24,053
Speaker 3: in charge for all these lovely things that are in

1393
01:07:24,053 --> 01:07:26,933
Speaker 3: Auckland that she never uses, including you know, the rubbish

1394
01:07:27,013 --> 01:07:29,253
Speaker 3: and the parks and all the rest of it. But

1395
01:07:29,333 --> 01:07:31,653
Speaker 3: what do you do do you do? You geotag someone

1396
01:07:31,773 --> 01:07:33,413
Speaker 3: like a Vaughn and as soon as they come into

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01:07:33,453 --> 01:07:36,453
Speaker 3: thecinity of Auckland then they've got to pay a wee fee.

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01:07:36,573 --> 01:07:41,013
Speaker 2: Well, no, I mean normally you you know, there's something

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01:07:41,093 --> 01:07:44,533
Speaker 2: similar to other people where you're paying your rates, if

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01:07:44,533 --> 01:07:45,853
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like so if you live

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01:07:45,853 --> 01:07:48,453
Speaker 2: in Duneda and you pay different rates than if you

1402
01:07:48,533 --> 01:07:51,493
Speaker 2: live in Oamaru. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, So

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01:07:51,853 --> 01:07:54,093
Speaker 2: it's just so. The argument would be that the super

1404
01:07:54,133 --> 01:07:57,653
Speaker 2: cities so large, it takes in places that are totally

1405
01:07:57,733 --> 01:08:02,413
Speaker 2: and utterly different, with different needs and different services. You know,

1406
01:08:02,573 --> 01:08:05,373
Speaker 2: so just by the mere size of it and the

1407
01:08:05,453 --> 01:08:07,733
Speaker 2: rural nature of some of the areas, it's unfair.

1408
01:08:07,853 --> 01:08:09,453
Speaker 3: But I'll tell you are I'm dirty on this.

1409
01:08:09,893 --> 01:08:10,333
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1410
01:08:10,413 --> 01:08:14,413
Speaker 3: The stadium in christ Jets, beautiful stadium, fantastics cost a

1411
01:08:14,493 --> 01:08:18,412
Speaker 3: fortune and I really thought the people are Selwyn good people.

1412
01:08:18,452 --> 01:08:21,293
Speaker 3: The people are why Mucker Eddy good people. They're going

1413
01:08:21,372 --> 01:08:23,412
Speaker 3: to be using that stadium. They're going to be coming

1414
01:08:23,452 --> 01:08:25,932
Speaker 3: in and join Elton John while he's not doing anymore.

1415
01:08:26,013 --> 01:08:28,812
Speaker 3: But all those lovely concerts and all those sports games

1416
01:08:28,973 --> 01:08:30,892
Speaker 3: don't have to pay a dicky bird for that stadium.

1417
01:08:30,933 --> 01:08:34,972
Speaker 2: Well so should I pay rates for in Dunedin? Because

1418
01:08:35,053 --> 01:08:36,612
Speaker 2: I went to for Soyth Bar to watch the All

1419
01:08:36,652 --> 01:08:37,293
Speaker 2: Blacks the other day?

1420
01:08:37,293 --> 01:08:38,492
Speaker 3: How much did you pay for the ticket?

1421
01:08:38,933 --> 01:08:39,133
Speaker 7: Well?

1422
01:08:39,213 --> 01:08:43,173
Speaker 2: Nothing, I was in a corporate box as usual, But

1423
01:08:43,173 --> 01:08:45,892
Speaker 2: but you get my point. Yeah, yeah, I hear what

1424
01:08:45,933 --> 01:08:47,772
Speaker 2: you're saying. You know, just in a wee fee for

1425
01:08:47,812 --> 01:08:52,692
Speaker 2: the tourists coming in. Yeah, Matt, you are forgetting rates attacks.

1426
01:08:52,812 --> 01:08:55,692
Speaker 2: They are not directly related to services. You pay for

1427
01:08:55,772 --> 01:08:59,253
Speaker 2: hospitals but only use them once a year. Would you

1428
01:08:59,333 --> 01:09:02,133
Speaker 2: like community communities with no pools or parks? Yeah, no,

1429
01:09:02,253 --> 01:09:04,372
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not advocating for this. I'm just saying

1430
01:09:04,412 --> 01:09:07,452
Speaker 2: that that is the logical extension of what they're doing

1431
01:09:07,452 --> 01:09:10,972
Speaker 2: here with this are RFID tags. So if you can

1432
01:09:11,013 --> 01:09:14,093
Speaker 2: do that for rubbish, you if you tag it, and

1433
01:09:14,173 --> 01:09:17,012
Speaker 2: if you use your bin half as much you get

1434
01:09:17,013 --> 01:09:19,852
Speaker 2: a discount. Then there's an argument that that could be

1435
01:09:19,893 --> 01:09:24,293
Speaker 2: extended over everything. So why are bins different from parks? Yeah?

1436
01:09:24,532 --> 01:09:28,093
Speaker 2: Why are bins different from community pools? Nicely said, I

1437
01:09:28,093 --> 01:09:32,492
Speaker 2: mean you generally pay a an entrance fee to council

1438
01:09:32,572 --> 01:09:35,452
Speaker 2: run pools. You don't know what I'm saying pools. It's

1439
01:09:35,452 --> 01:09:37,652
Speaker 2: because I'm a big fan of Mark Whitney. Do you

1440
01:09:37,692 --> 01:09:39,852
Speaker 2: remember watching that show that was called Who Dares Wins?

1441
01:09:39,973 --> 01:09:40,133
Speaker 5: Oh?

1442
01:09:40,253 --> 01:09:40,852
Speaker 2: Great show?

1443
01:09:41,333 --> 01:09:41,572
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1444
01:09:41,612 --> 01:09:44,093
Speaker 2: I remember. One episode is like you gotta transits these

1445
01:09:44,093 --> 01:09:44,892
Speaker 2: wheel pools.

1446
01:09:45,053 --> 01:09:48,172
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a good text here. Sixty dollars discount?

1447
01:09:48,173 --> 01:09:50,492
Speaker 3: What an absolute joke. I would give my neighbor one

1448
01:09:50,532 --> 01:09:52,652
Speaker 3: hundred bucks a year to use has been for the

1449
01:09:52,652 --> 01:09:54,852
Speaker 3: twenty six weeks, so I get seventy eight weeks worth

1450
01:09:54,853 --> 01:09:58,892
Speaker 3: of rubbish disposal. Not a bit option, Actually all right?

1451
01:09:58,893 --> 01:10:00,772
Speaker 3: I one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1452
01:10:00,812 --> 01:10:04,012
Speaker 3: to call. It is thirteen to three, the issues that.

1453
01:10:03,973 --> 01:10:06,253
Speaker 7: Affect you and a bit of fun along the way

1454
01:10:06,492 --> 01:10:11,333
Speaker 7: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams after dudes, NEWSTALKSBB, NEWSTALKSB.

1455
01:10:11,452 --> 01:10:13,812
Speaker 3: It is eleven to three, and we've been discussing what

1456
01:10:13,893 --> 01:10:16,053
Speaker 3: Abs City Council are doing. They're giving a discount of

1457
01:10:16,093 --> 01:10:18,852
Speaker 3: twenty five percent about sixty bucks a year for any

1458
01:10:18,853 --> 01:10:21,372
Speaker 3: resident that only takes their bins out twenty six times

1459
01:10:21,452 --> 01:10:23,852
Speaker 3: or fewer each year. Good idea or stupid? Oh eight

1460
01:10:23,933 --> 01:10:27,173
Speaker 3: hundred and eighteen eighty plenty of tixs coming through.

1461
01:10:27,572 --> 01:10:31,772
Speaker 2: Guys, got to turn off my mic. It's one hundred

1462
01:10:31,772 --> 01:10:33,772
Speaker 2: and eighty, one hundred and eighty ninth show today. I

1463
01:10:33,772 --> 01:10:36,372
Speaker 2: think grahats to give the Tyler it is congratulations to you,

1464
01:10:36,893 --> 01:10:38,532
Speaker 2: but still not turning on my mic when I go

1465
01:10:38,572 --> 01:10:41,173
Speaker 2: to speak. One button is too many in this place. Hi, guys,

1466
01:10:41,173 --> 01:10:44,412
Speaker 2: My small commercial property in East Tamaki has rates of

1467
01:10:44,692 --> 01:10:47,732
Speaker 2: thirteen k per year, but no rubbish or recycling service.

1468
01:10:47,772 --> 01:10:51,053
Speaker 2: As it's an industrial zone. We get absolutely nothing for

1469
01:10:51,093 --> 01:10:53,973
Speaker 2: our thirteen k year. Yeah just six. Yeah, we'll not

1470
01:10:54,013 --> 01:10:55,572
Speaker 2: absolutely nothing, But that doesn't mean for you, I mean

1471
01:10:55,612 --> 01:10:59,932
Speaker 2: you to get sex me. We have a bear section

1472
01:11:00,213 --> 01:11:03,972
Speaker 2: in Matarangi, seven hundred and fifty meters square, no power,

1473
01:11:04,013 --> 01:11:07,093
Speaker 2: no water, just a flat section three thousand per year

1474
01:11:07,133 --> 01:11:09,932
Speaker 2: for rates. We only visit to mow the lawns. Okay,

1475
01:11:10,253 --> 01:11:12,372
Speaker 2: it's nice to have a section of MUTTARRANGI. To be honest,

1476
01:11:12,772 --> 01:11:14,973
Speaker 2: I mean, are you going to do something with it?

1477
01:11:15,253 --> 01:11:16,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, just just build something on it.

1478
01:11:16,732 --> 01:11:19,133
Speaker 2: Be nice. I live semi really, says James. We have

1479
01:11:19,173 --> 01:11:21,532
Speaker 2: no foot pass. Their road isn't sealed. We have to

1480
01:11:21,572 --> 01:11:24,053
Speaker 2: take our council bins five kilometers to a collection point.

1481
01:11:24,093 --> 01:11:27,253
Speaker 2: Council don't maintain our roadside drain. We have our own

1482
01:11:27,333 --> 01:11:30,412
Speaker 2: water supply and our own septic tank system, and yet

1483
01:11:30,412 --> 01:11:33,732
Speaker 2: we pay full whack. It sucks, especially considering how much

1484
01:11:33,772 --> 01:11:37,732
Speaker 2: it costs to essentially supply our own infrastructure. Yeah that's

1485
01:11:37,732 --> 01:11:40,612
Speaker 2: not right. Yeah, that does seem a little bit unfair.

1486
01:11:41,093 --> 01:11:44,652
Speaker 2: So this person's angry at me for my what have

1487
01:11:44,692 --> 01:11:48,093
Speaker 2: been going out at night and putting my rubbish in

1488
01:11:48,133 --> 01:11:51,372
Speaker 2: other people's bins when I've got too much rubbish. So

1489
01:11:51,732 --> 01:11:54,732
Speaker 2: this is all in caps, very angry. So does that

1490
01:11:54,772 --> 01:11:57,213
Speaker 2: mean you're doing a disservice to your neighbor by adding

1491
01:11:57,253 --> 01:12:01,732
Speaker 2: your rubbish to his bins? That's from jewels? What is

1492
01:12:01,893 --> 01:12:06,013
Speaker 2: a neighbour here if you add rubbish to their bins? So,

1493
01:12:06,013 --> 01:12:07,972
Speaker 2: so you know this is this is the way round,

1494
01:12:08,093 --> 01:12:10,572
Speaker 2: you know. This seems to me to be the whole

1495
01:12:10,612 --> 01:12:14,173
Speaker 2: floor in this situation here in Napier is can't you

1496
01:12:14,213 --> 01:12:16,253
Speaker 2: just go out and put your rubbish and other people's

1497
01:12:16,253 --> 01:12:17,732
Speaker 2: bins on the week you don't want to do it?

1498
01:12:17,772 --> 01:12:20,213
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of effort to save about thirty

1499
01:12:20,213 --> 01:12:26,492
Speaker 2: bucks admittedly, but you know people get territorial with their bins.

1500
01:12:26,732 --> 01:12:28,133
Speaker 3: Like I'm kind of with you. It all goes to

1501
01:12:28,173 --> 01:12:28,692
Speaker 3: the same place.

1502
01:12:28,732 --> 01:12:29,452
Speaker 2: And what do you care?

1503
01:12:29,532 --> 01:12:32,572
Speaker 3: But going out at night and what did you call it?

1504
01:12:32,572 --> 01:12:33,452
Speaker 3: A garbage ghost?

1505
01:12:34,013 --> 01:12:36,013
Speaker 2: I'm calling I think of myself as sort of a

1506
01:12:36,053 --> 01:12:40,253
Speaker 2: beIN ninja, a wheelibin raider, a garbage ghost. I guess

1507
01:12:40,253 --> 01:12:42,772
Speaker 2: you could call me, what's another one? A trash troll,

1508
01:12:44,572 --> 01:12:47,333
Speaker 2: a rubbish rogue. Whatever. You know, at night you go

1509
01:12:47,412 --> 01:12:49,013
Speaker 2: to put your bins out and you go, you know,

1510
01:12:49,452 --> 01:12:51,652
Speaker 2: you've got all this rubbish in the garage and you go, look,

1511
01:12:51,692 --> 01:12:53,213
Speaker 2: you know, And I'll just go and I'll just go

1512
01:12:53,253 --> 01:12:56,213
Speaker 2: and sprinkle that like a garbage, like a rubbish fairy.

1513
01:12:56,333 --> 01:13:00,333
Speaker 2: I'll just tiptoe up and down the street putting rubbish

1514
01:13:00,333 --> 01:13:02,052
Speaker 2: in other people's bins. What do they care, They've already

1515
01:13:02,053 --> 01:13:03,732
Speaker 2: put their bins out. They don't even more rubbish. It's

1516
01:13:03,732 --> 01:13:05,053
Speaker 2: just going to all go in the truck with all

1517
01:13:05,053 --> 01:13:06,772
Speaker 2: the other stuff. They won't even know about it. So

1518
01:13:06,973 --> 01:13:10,052
Speaker 2: am I just supposed to sit my own Let's set

1519
01:13:10,053 --> 01:13:12,053
Speaker 2: in my own filth for a week until there's enough

1520
01:13:12,053 --> 01:13:12,932
Speaker 2: space in my Wheeliban.

1521
01:13:13,053 --> 01:13:16,812
Speaker 3: I love you, mate, rubbish Fury, It's good all right.

1522
01:13:17,133 --> 01:13:21,213
Speaker 3: Eighty is the number to call, Adam. How are you mate?

1523
01:13:22,333 --> 01:13:25,133
Speaker 21: Get a lad's Hey? It's a victim less crime, isn't it,

1524
01:13:25,173 --> 01:13:26,092
Speaker 21: being a bin fiery?

1525
01:13:26,333 --> 01:13:28,572
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, I don't know if I like the name

1526
01:13:28,612 --> 01:13:31,652
Speaker 2: bin Fury as much as I'll take it.

1527
01:13:31,692 --> 01:13:34,652
Speaker 3: Put all we too too on nothing wrong with it.

1528
01:13:36,133 --> 01:13:37,492
Speaker 21: Hey, I'll get right to it.

1529
01:13:37,532 --> 01:13:38,612
Speaker 12: I heard you say earlier.

1530
01:13:40,893 --> 01:13:43,892
Speaker 21: We don't pay a nickel up in ymker Aria for

1531
01:13:43,973 --> 01:13:45,012
Speaker 21: the new U Stadium.

1532
01:13:45,213 --> 01:13:45,412
Speaker 2: Yep.

1533
01:13:46,572 --> 01:13:49,892
Speaker 21: I completely agree we should be paying for it. I

1534
01:13:49,933 --> 01:13:53,293
Speaker 21: would love to for it, and I absolutely plan on

1535
01:13:53,412 --> 01:13:54,892
Speaker 21: using it. I can't wait till it's opening.

1536
01:13:55,732 --> 01:13:56,173
Speaker 2: So good.

1537
01:13:57,333 --> 01:14:00,333
Speaker 21: But if it makes you feel any better, I thought

1538
01:14:00,333 --> 01:14:03,173
Speaker 21: i'd I thought i'd raise this. In my rates that

1539
01:14:03,253 --> 01:14:07,612
Speaker 21: I got recently, we had two very interesting lines.

1540
01:14:07,253 --> 01:14:09,093
Speaker 4: Of ing in there.

1541
01:14:10,013 --> 01:14:16,013
Speaker 21: One was the running of the Canterbury Museum, which we

1542
01:14:16,053 --> 01:14:17,933
Speaker 21: all know is in running at the moment, and the

1543
01:14:18,053 --> 01:14:21,772
Speaker 21: mothballing of the Canterbury Museum. And so why are we

1544
01:14:21,933 --> 01:14:26,492
Speaker 21: paying for mothballing and the running of it when it's

1545
01:14:26,492 --> 01:14:27,052
Speaker 21: not running?

1546
01:14:27,333 --> 01:14:28,492
Speaker 2: That is a very good point.

1547
01:14:29,572 --> 01:14:32,852
Speaker 21: And I'm not even in christ Church, so nef it

1548
01:14:32,853 --> 01:14:34,933
Speaker 21: makes you feel any better, we're paying for that, but

1549
01:14:34,973 --> 01:14:36,333
Speaker 21: we're not paying for the stadium.

1550
01:14:36,532 --> 01:14:38,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, that does make me feel better. Thank you for

1551
01:14:38,412 --> 01:14:40,492
Speaker 3: their Adam, And this might make you feel worse, but

1552
01:14:40,612 --> 01:14:42,253
Speaker 3: just going through my rates bill, I don't think we're

1553
01:14:42,253 --> 01:14:45,492
Speaker 3: actually paying for the mothball Cannebury Museum. So thank you

1554
01:14:45,532 --> 01:14:46,932
Speaker 3: to the good people of why mukad Eddy.

1555
01:14:48,732 --> 01:14:50,612
Speaker 21: You're very welcome, mate, I have a great day.

1556
01:14:51,093 --> 01:14:53,852
Speaker 3: Good on your dam Thank you and why muck at Eddy,

1557
01:14:53,893 --> 01:14:56,452
Speaker 3: by the way, fantastic, fantastic place.

1558
01:14:57,372 --> 01:14:59,572
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, Sharon, welcome to the show.

1559
01:15:00,572 --> 01:15:03,253
Speaker 20: Good, How are you good?

1560
01:15:03,652 --> 01:15:05,093
Speaker 22: I've just been going through my rates.

1561
01:15:06,053 --> 01:15:07,333
Speaker 2: Ah, here we go.

1562
01:15:09,293 --> 01:15:12,572
Speaker 22: And we paid I'm not a licence, And we pay

1563
01:15:12,732 --> 01:15:15,013
Speaker 22: for a library that we've just been booted out and

1564
01:15:15,053 --> 01:15:17,573
Speaker 22: now we have about quarter of the size of the library.

1565
01:15:17,213 --> 01:15:17,812
Speaker 8: We used to have.

1566
01:15:19,293 --> 01:15:23,133
Speaker 22: And we pay for a community center that we don't have.

1567
01:15:23,692 --> 01:15:26,613
Speaker 22: So the library charge is one hundred and seventy one dollars,

1568
01:15:26,812 --> 01:15:30,452
Speaker 22: the community center is two hundred and thirty one dollars.

1569
01:15:30,772 --> 01:15:34,652
Speaker 22: We also pay for the Canterbury Museum levy which is

1570
01:15:35,853 --> 01:15:37,093
Speaker 22: forty dollars.

1571
01:15:37,173 --> 01:15:40,012
Speaker 20: And we pay two lots of land drainage.

1572
01:15:40,973 --> 01:15:41,572
Speaker 8: To dept.

1573
01:15:43,253 --> 01:15:46,173
Speaker 22: We have our own septic tank and we have a

1574
01:15:46,213 --> 01:15:48,973
Speaker 22: ball for our water, and we're are going under the

1575
01:15:49,093 --> 01:15:53,932
Speaker 22: Environment Canterbrise, and we have a test management charge that

1576
01:15:53,973 --> 01:15:58,333
Speaker 22: we pay of about nearly eighty or eighty dollars. We

1577
01:15:58,412 --> 01:16:02,452
Speaker 22: have a several defense charge which is minimal at sixteen dollars,

1578
01:16:02,492 --> 01:16:04,973
Speaker 22: and we have a general charge of six hundred and

1579
01:16:05,013 --> 01:16:06,933
Speaker 22: thirty five dollars, so we don't even know what that's for.

1580
01:16:07,652 --> 01:16:10,452
Speaker 2: General. Yeah, that's cheeky.

1581
01:16:10,692 --> 01:16:16,133
Speaker 22: But we have a passenger transport charge and it's got

1582
01:16:16,213 --> 01:16:19,412
Speaker 22: rural and it's for twenty three dollars. I don't even

1583
01:16:19,452 --> 01:16:20,652
Speaker 22: know I've ever been picked up.

1584
01:16:21,732 --> 01:16:23,173
Speaker 2: Yes, so what does it say?

1585
01:16:23,213 --> 01:16:25,692
Speaker 3: So I'm just looking through why we e can rates

1586
01:16:25,732 --> 01:16:26,053
Speaker 3: as well?

1587
01:16:26,093 --> 01:16:27,572
Speaker 2: I need I need to go through my rates bill

1588
01:16:27,572 --> 01:16:30,412
Speaker 2: to get annoyed as well. It's quite cathartic.

1589
01:16:32,093 --> 01:16:35,053
Speaker 3: But then, to be fair, Sharon, that is because and

1590
01:16:35,093 --> 01:16:36,732
Speaker 3: I don't know why they do this, but e Can

1591
01:16:36,772 --> 01:16:38,732
Speaker 3: are the ones that sorts out the buses across christ

1592
01:16:39,053 --> 01:16:40,652
Speaker 3: So if you're in christ Chat city, the other ones,

1593
01:16:40,893 --> 01:16:41,652
Speaker 3: oh yeah, sorry you go.

1594
01:16:41,732 --> 01:16:43,972
Speaker 22: We don't need we don't have busses.

1595
01:16:43,973 --> 01:16:45,612
Speaker 2: That is a problem. That's not fair and new Sharon,

1596
01:16:45,692 --> 01:16:47,452
Speaker 2: is it? That is a mess a problem? Hey, Matt.

1597
01:16:47,452 --> 01:16:49,253
Speaker 2: We put our bins out at night to make sure

1598
01:16:49,293 --> 01:16:51,333
Speaker 2: we don't miss the seven am collection, but then often

1599
01:16:51,372 --> 01:16:53,532
Speaker 2: add to the bin in the morning if we have time.

1600
01:16:53,853 --> 01:16:56,492
Speaker 2: I'd be pretty pissed off. It was full of your crap. Yes,

1601
01:16:57,253 --> 01:17:02,973
Speaker 2: you look like I'll just say us garbage ghosts, the

1602
01:17:03,013 --> 01:17:06,132
Speaker 2: trash trolls, the bin ninjas out on the streets breading

1603
01:17:06,133 --> 01:17:09,452
Speaker 2: our rubbish across across our neighbor's bins by night. You

1604
01:17:09,532 --> 01:17:12,652
Speaker 2: know it's a thrill. I can tell you know, it

1605
01:17:12,732 --> 01:17:14,893
Speaker 2: is an absolute thrill, So I tell you got to

1606
01:17:14,933 --> 01:17:20,213
Speaker 2: try it. Yeah, got the bin ferries, put a little

1607
01:17:20,213 --> 01:17:22,372
Speaker 2: bit of rosh in there, then skip down the road,

1608
01:17:22,372 --> 01:17:27,093
Speaker 2: put a little rosh in there. It's a great time. Fantastic.

1609
01:17:27,293 --> 01:17:28,372
Speaker 2: That was a really great chat.

1610
01:17:28,372 --> 01:17:31,093
Speaker 3: Thank you very much to everyone who called antext until

1611
01:17:31,173 --> 01:17:33,812
Speaker 3: the other bin furies out there, Good luck and met.

1612
01:17:33,812 --> 01:17:37,012
Speaker 2: We'll see you on the streets. Trash trolls. We prefer

1613
01:17:37,053 --> 01:17:37,892
Speaker 2: to trash trolls.

1614
01:17:38,013 --> 01:17:40,452
Speaker 3: Coming up after three, I really can to have a

1615
01:17:40,492 --> 01:17:43,732
Speaker 3: chat with you about preparing for retirement. Great story in

1616
01:17:43,772 --> 01:17:46,812
Speaker 3: the Herald saying what you should be preparing for and doing.

1617
01:17:46,853 --> 01:17:47,932
Speaker 2: We'll get to that next.

1618
01:17:50,412 --> 01:17:54,692
Speaker 1: Your new home for instal and entertaining talk. It's Matty

1619
01:17:54,973 --> 01:17:58,813
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk sebby.

1620
01:17:59,532 --> 01:18:02,732
Speaker 3: Very very good afternoon, Chew. It is seven past three,

1621
01:18:02,812 --> 01:18:06,372
Speaker 3: happy hour on a Friday. Great of your company, as always,

1622
01:18:06,532 --> 01:18:07,772
Speaker 3: is going to be a great chat.

1623
01:18:08,013 --> 01:18:10,173
Speaker 2: So there's a story in the Herald and it's.

1624
01:18:10,013 --> 01:18:12,973
Speaker 3: Titled seven Rules for a healthy and happy retirement from

1625
01:18:13,013 --> 01:18:16,172
Speaker 3: the professors who studies, and a lot of these professors

1626
01:18:16,173 --> 01:18:19,972
Speaker 3: are very renowned from places like Oxford and from Harvard

1627
01:18:20,013 --> 01:18:23,532
Speaker 3: as well. But essentially it boils down to if you

1628
01:18:23,732 --> 01:18:27,573
Speaker 3: are looking ahead to retirement in your thirties, forties, fifties,

1629
01:18:27,612 --> 01:18:30,652
Speaker 3: and certainly in your sixties, you need to think long

1630
01:18:30,812 --> 01:18:33,293
Speaker 3: and hard about that how you can have the best

1631
01:18:33,293 --> 01:18:37,173
Speaker 3: retirement possible. That we are living for longer, our retirements

1632
01:18:37,173 --> 01:18:39,532
Speaker 3: are longer, and it's not just a factor of money

1633
01:18:40,133 --> 01:18:42,612
Speaker 3: any more. Money certainly helps, but it is a factor

1634
01:18:42,692 --> 01:18:45,732
Speaker 3: of how are you going to make sure that you're

1635
01:18:45,772 --> 01:18:49,652
Speaker 3: still happy and healthy and enjoying your life well into

1636
01:18:49,692 --> 01:18:52,852
Speaker 3: your seventies, eighties and for a lot of people nineties

1637
01:18:52,893 --> 01:18:53,613
Speaker 3: as well.

1638
01:18:53,933 --> 01:18:57,093
Speaker 2: So Azarah Hell, we were just talking to her before.

1639
01:18:57,133 --> 01:19:01,053
Speaker 2: She's gen Z. Yep, she's our political reporter, she is,

1640
01:19:01,333 --> 01:19:03,852
Speaker 2: and she was saying she hadn't even thought about retirement, right, Yeah,

1641
01:19:03,853 --> 01:19:06,612
Speaker 2: so gen Z. Is anyone gen Z thinking about the

1642
01:19:06,612 --> 01:19:09,253
Speaker 2: retirement And we're not talking about just saving for retirement,

1643
01:19:09,293 --> 01:19:12,972
Speaker 2: but these things about thinking about your health now so

1644
01:19:13,093 --> 01:19:15,932
Speaker 2: that you are in good shape when you retire. Yes,

1645
01:19:16,412 --> 01:19:19,412
Speaker 2: so are people in there obviously gen X's are thinking

1646
01:19:19,452 --> 01:19:21,852
Speaker 2: heavily about their retirement now. I mean, the boomers are

1647
01:19:21,893 --> 01:19:25,573
Speaker 2: in their retirement now, so they're thinking about it. Yep. Millennials, millennials,

1648
01:19:25,692 --> 01:19:27,852
Speaker 2: you're a millennial or you're a millennial. Have you thought

1649
01:19:27,893 --> 01:19:31,333
Speaker 2: anything about your retirement, how you want it to be,

1650
01:19:31,532 --> 01:19:33,213
Speaker 2: what you want, what you want from it? Are you

1651
01:19:33,293 --> 01:19:34,852
Speaker 2: saving for it? Are you're on top of that?

1652
01:19:34,973 --> 01:19:37,933
Speaker 3: Tyler, certainly saving for it. Whether I'm on top of

1653
01:19:37,933 --> 01:19:40,572
Speaker 3: it is a different scenario. But and this is the

1654
01:19:40,612 --> 01:19:42,772
Speaker 3: point of the story. I look at it when I

1655
01:19:43,253 --> 01:19:45,492
Speaker 3: eventually get to retirement age, and I've got all these

1656
01:19:45,572 --> 01:19:49,812
Speaker 3: wonderful ideas of maybe sitting on beaches, having pinnacladas, and

1657
01:19:49,893 --> 01:19:52,133
Speaker 3: also doing great walks of the world and all these

1658
01:19:52,173 --> 01:19:56,333
Speaker 3: wonderful things. But you forget that if I buy chance

1659
01:19:56,372 --> 01:20:00,092
Speaker 3: retire by the age of seventy, I may have thirty

1660
01:20:00,213 --> 01:20:02,532
Speaker 3: years of life left.

1661
01:20:02,612 --> 01:20:04,612
Speaker 2: So once I've done, when do you think you're going

1662
01:20:04,612 --> 01:20:06,692
Speaker 2: to retire seventy and you reckon you're gonna get another

1663
01:20:06,692 --> 01:20:07,852
Speaker 2: thirty seems likely?

1664
01:20:08,372 --> 01:20:08,572
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1665
01:20:08,612 --> 01:20:10,652
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, I mean you might have to do a

1666
01:20:10,652 --> 01:20:12,093
Speaker 2: bit more. I mean, you know, I'm going to have

1667
01:20:12,093 --> 01:20:14,213
Speaker 2: to do some more walking. And I love you like

1668
01:20:14,213 --> 01:20:15,812
Speaker 2: a brother, but I wouldn't say you're a picture of

1669
01:20:15,812 --> 01:20:16,293
Speaker 2: good health.

1670
01:20:16,492 --> 01:20:18,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, as I was doing those calculations, it will be,

1671
01:20:18,933 --> 01:20:20,213
Speaker 3: it will be a miracle. If I make it to

1672
01:20:20,213 --> 01:20:22,213
Speaker 3: one hundred, let's say I'll make it to eighty one,

1673
01:20:22,372 --> 01:20:22,892
Speaker 3: maybe drop.

1674
01:20:22,933 --> 01:20:27,493
Speaker 2: That's down from thirty to six months.

1675
01:20:27,772 --> 01:20:29,692
Speaker 3: So in that case, if I've only gone six months

1676
01:20:29,692 --> 01:20:31,532
Speaker 3: after seventy, then I'll be I'll be your home, my

1677
01:20:31,612 --> 01:20:33,972
Speaker 3: home and host I've got pina coladas and great walks.

1678
01:20:34,253 --> 01:20:36,372
Speaker 3: But yeah, the point was that a lot of people

1679
01:20:36,412 --> 01:20:38,972
Speaker 3: get to retirement and they haven't thought about how they're

1680
01:20:39,013 --> 01:20:41,732
Speaker 3: actually going to manage their time and make sure you

1681
01:20:41,732 --> 01:20:42,852
Speaker 3: can actually enjoy it.

1682
01:20:42,933 --> 01:20:44,053
Speaker 2: So really keen to hear from you.

1683
01:20:44,053 --> 01:20:46,173
Speaker 3: I wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty what is

1684
01:20:46,213 --> 01:20:48,293
Speaker 3: important for you by the time that you do reach

1685
01:20:48,372 --> 01:20:49,213
Speaker 3: that milestone?

1686
01:20:49,372 --> 01:20:52,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, and how do you envision your your retirement? What

1687
01:20:52,253 --> 01:20:53,333
Speaker 2: do you want from it? Do you want to be

1688
01:20:53,372 --> 01:20:56,492
Speaker 2: sitting on the beach, sitting pinacoladas, pina clartas? Do you

1689
01:20:56,532 --> 01:21:00,612
Speaker 2: want to be walking the Camaro trail? And you know,

1690
01:21:00,933 --> 01:21:02,772
Speaker 2: what do you want to do with your retirement? Because

1691
01:21:02,973 --> 01:21:05,492
Speaker 2: you have to start thinking about that that absolutely now,

1692
01:21:05,532 --> 01:21:08,293
Speaker 2: because you might live for thirty years, but in say

1693
01:21:08,492 --> 01:21:10,892
Speaker 2: a way that you can't do all those things that

1694
01:21:10,612 --> 01:21:12,013
Speaker 2: you that you dreamed you would do.

1695
01:21:12,213 --> 01:21:15,933
Speaker 3: Yeah. Funnily enough. As we were hanging around as a

1696
01:21:15,933 --> 01:21:19,572
Speaker 3: family last night after my beautiful, beautifuln his funeral. But uncle,

1697
01:21:19,652 --> 01:21:23,852
Speaker 3: he is sixty one, and he was saying, he's talking

1698
01:21:23,853 --> 01:21:26,053
Speaker 3: about traveling and he's getting ready for retirement. But he

1699
01:21:26,093 --> 01:21:28,372
Speaker 3: meted it out and his said, so what I want

1700
01:21:28,372 --> 01:21:31,253
Speaker 3: to do. You've got the long travel situations, you've got

1701
01:21:31,333 --> 01:21:34,852
Speaker 3: the kind of smaller travel situations, and then you've got

1702
01:21:34,893 --> 01:21:36,852
Speaker 3: the you walk down to your letter box, and so

1703
01:21:36,893 --> 01:21:38,933
Speaker 3: you've got to do the longer ones right at the

1704
01:21:38,973 --> 01:21:41,572
Speaker 3: start of your retirement. Then you get shorter and shorter

1705
01:21:41,612 --> 01:21:43,532
Speaker 3: and shorter until you can't walk anymore. That was his

1706
01:21:43,652 --> 01:21:45,412
Speaker 3: kind of analogy for it, and I thought, yeah, it

1707
01:21:45,452 --> 01:21:47,572
Speaker 3: kind of makes sense. So he wants to start kicking

1708
01:21:47,652 --> 01:21:49,612
Speaker 3: us on the travel thing as soon as he's done

1709
01:21:49,612 --> 01:21:52,372
Speaker 3: with work, So going over to Europe doing the what

1710
01:21:52,412 --> 01:21:54,492
Speaker 3: do they call it, the Kamara Trail in Spain, all

1711
01:21:54,532 --> 01:21:57,412
Speaker 3: those beautiful things, and then when he hit seventy, maybe

1712
01:21:57,412 --> 01:22:01,013
Speaker 3: a few joints to Australia and Thailand, and then when

1713
01:22:01,013 --> 01:22:03,132
Speaker 3: he's eighty, you know, just some domestic travel.

1714
01:22:03,812 --> 01:22:05,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and there's this other thing called the

1715
01:22:05,612 --> 01:22:10,093
Speaker 2: retirement donut. If you to that. No, So when you're

1716
01:22:10,093 --> 01:22:13,133
Speaker 2: in your fifties, you might have the energy to do

1717
01:22:13,213 --> 01:22:14,333
Speaker 2: a lot of the things that you want to do.

1718
01:22:14,372 --> 01:22:17,452
Speaker 2: Maybe you want to do a spectacular climb or something,

1719
01:22:17,532 --> 01:22:20,093
Speaker 2: or you want to do something really really sort of

1720
01:22:20,093 --> 01:22:21,532
Speaker 2: physical that you might not be able to do in

1721
01:22:21,572 --> 01:22:24,612
Speaker 2: your eighties yep or late seventies. So you take a

1722
01:22:24,612 --> 01:22:27,692
Speaker 2: retirement donut. So you retire for five years in your

1723
01:22:27,732 --> 01:22:29,572
Speaker 2: fifties and then get back into work afterwards.

1724
01:22:29,652 --> 01:22:31,812
Speaker 3: Oh, I love that idea. Oh eight, one hundred and

1725
01:22:31,812 --> 01:22:34,013
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call love to

1726
01:22:34,053 --> 01:22:36,733
Speaker 3: hear your thoughts. If you're in your thirties, forties, fifties,

1727
01:22:37,173 --> 01:22:39,532
Speaker 3: are you planning for your entire retirement? How do you

1728
01:22:39,772 --> 01:22:42,093
Speaker 3: envision it and what do you think will be important

1729
01:22:42,732 --> 01:22:45,053
Speaker 3: when you get to that milestone? Right now, though it

1730
01:22:45,133 --> 01:22:49,452
Speaker 3: is twelve past three, Every Friday.

1731
01:22:49,053 --> 01:22:51,852
Speaker 2: On Matt and Tyler afternoons on Newstalk z'd Be, we

1732
01:22:52,013 --> 01:22:54,452
Speaker 2: name the new Zealander of the Week and honor that

1733
01:22:54,452 --> 01:22:56,253
Speaker 2: we bestow on your behalf.

1734
01:22:56,133 --> 01:22:58,892
Speaker 23: To a newsmaker who has had an outsized effect on

1735
01:22:58,933 --> 01:23:03,052
Speaker 23: our great and beautiful nation over the previous week. As always,

1736
01:23:03,133 --> 01:23:07,173
Speaker 23: there'll be two runners up and one winner and Unlike

1737
01:23:07,213 --> 01:23:10,852
Speaker 23: other high profile New Zealander awards, this isn't just an

1738
01:23:10,973 --> 01:23:18,092
Speaker 23: exercise in corporate halo polishing, so without further ado, second

1739
01:23:18,133 --> 01:23:22,852
Speaker 23: runner up also gets the will Love Award. Kiwi Balls

1740
01:23:22,853 --> 01:23:25,452
Speaker 23: will be bouncing all over Flushing Meadows in New York

1741
01:23:25,492 --> 01:23:28,253
Speaker 23: for the final Grand Slam of the year. They go

1742
01:23:28,372 --> 01:23:32,892
Speaker 23: through one hundred thousand of our fluffy best for bouncing

1743
01:23:32,893 --> 01:23:35,652
Speaker 23: you away onto Center Court and the Big Apple New

1744
01:23:35,732 --> 01:23:39,412
Speaker 23: Zealand Will you are runner up for New Zealander of

1745
01:23:39,452 --> 01:23:39,852
Speaker 23: the Week.

1746
01:23:40,372 --> 01:23:43,013
Speaker 2: First runner up also gets the Sexy Hero with the

1747
01:23:43,053 --> 01:23:46,772
Speaker 2: Whistle Award. He's our most CAPTI test ref, a doctor

1748
01:23:46,812 --> 01:23:49,133
Speaker 2: and according to the ladies, I know a bit of

1749
01:23:49,173 --> 01:23:51,572
Speaker 2: a hotty. He doesn't always get it right, but he

1750
01:23:51,612 --> 01:23:54,173
Speaker 2: gets it right more than anyone else in the world.

1751
01:23:54,412 --> 01:23:57,173
Speaker 2: The game needs ref so let's celebrate the best of them.

1752
01:23:57,412 --> 01:23:59,973
Speaker 2: Read all about the man in Shane Curry's Great New

1753
01:24:00,053 --> 01:24:00,932
Speaker 2: Zealand Road Trip.

1754
01:24:01,372 --> 01:24:06,492
Speaker 23: Kiwi International ref Ben O'Keefe, you are first runner up.

1755
01:24:06,412 --> 01:24:10,692
Speaker 2: For New Zealander of the Week and as first runner Up, Ben,

1756
01:24:10,853 --> 01:24:15,293
Speaker 2: If for whatever reason, when it cannot execute their responsibilities

1757
01:24:15,333 --> 01:24:17,612
Speaker 2: as New Zealander of the Week, you will take over.

1758
01:24:18,732 --> 01:24:22,852
Speaker 2: But there can be only one. This week. British comedian

1759
01:24:22,933 --> 01:24:26,053
Speaker 2: Russell Howard described you as the most beautiful place in

1760
01:24:26,093 --> 01:24:30,492
Speaker 2: the world. Last week, the most successful movie director of

1761
01:24:30,612 --> 01:24:34,492
Speaker 2: all time signed up to you for life. And while

1762
01:24:34,572 --> 01:24:38,532
Speaker 2: you may have your struggles, we are all so very

1763
01:24:38,692 --> 01:24:41,492
Speaker 2: very lucky to be living on top of you. Two

1764
01:24:41,572 --> 01:24:45,372
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty eight thousand square kilometers written by fifteen

1765
01:24:45,612 --> 01:24:50,132
Speaker 2: k of beautiful Coastline. You are so very very green.

1766
01:24:50,412 --> 01:24:54,692
Speaker 2: You got mountains, lakes, islands and what Willie Cook said,

1767
01:24:55,253 --> 01:24:58,452
Speaker 2: just the best people on the planet. It may be

1768
01:24:58,492 --> 01:25:02,213
Speaker 2: borne out of unfashionable positivity. It might be some kind

1769
01:25:02,213 --> 01:25:05,612
Speaker 2: of inception level logical fallacy to award New Zealand and

1770
01:25:05,612 --> 01:25:08,812
Speaker 2: New Zealander of the Week. But they don't make the rules.

1771
01:25:09,133 --> 01:25:09,452
Speaker 24: We do.

1772
01:25:10,053 --> 01:25:13,652
Speaker 2: So shame on the Wines after all these years, we

1773
01:25:13,812 --> 01:25:17,572
Speaker 2: don't know how bloody lucky we are made. Let's get

1774
01:25:17,612 --> 01:25:22,333
Speaker 2: it on New Zealand. You ah, the Madame Tyler Afternoons

1775
01:25:22,612 --> 01:25:33,333
Speaker 2: New Zealander of the Week, Take it away, Howie. It's

1776
01:25:33,372 --> 01:25:34,692
Speaker 2: huge for New Zealand. You got to say to her

1777
01:25:34,652 --> 01:25:37,333
Speaker 2: in the New Zealand of the Week. Massive momentous day.

1778
01:25:37,372 --> 01:25:41,572
Speaker 2: It's going to turn the economy around. No before malais

1779
01:25:41,612 --> 01:25:42,372
Speaker 2: across the country.

1780
01:25:48,053 --> 01:25:53,692
Speaker 3: Tyler News Talk, sa'd be very good afternoons. You it

1781
01:25:53,772 --> 01:25:56,692
Speaker 3: is seventeen past three. If you're in your thirties, forties,

1782
01:25:56,732 --> 01:25:59,293
Speaker 3: fifty sixties, how much have you been thinking about your

1783
01:25:59,333 --> 01:26:02,612
Speaker 3: retirement planning it out because we are living longer, really

1784
01:26:02,652 --> 01:26:04,213
Speaker 3: keen to have a chat with you at one hundred

1785
01:26:04,213 --> 01:26:05,092
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty.

1786
01:26:04,933 --> 01:26:07,812
Speaker 2: Yes, after the study that we've been reading out before.

1787
01:26:08,013 --> 01:26:12,853
Speaker 2: But it's not just the financial organization for your retirement,

1788
01:26:13,133 --> 01:26:17,333
Speaker 2: it's it's health as well and how you set yourself

1789
01:26:17,412 --> 01:26:21,372
Speaker 2: up for life. You know there is this, there's this

1790
01:26:22,333 --> 01:26:24,692
Speaker 2: the triangle of life. Have you heard of the triangle

1791
01:26:24,732 --> 01:26:24,972
Speaker 2: of life?

1792
01:26:25,053 --> 01:26:25,213
Speaker 16: Time?

1793
01:26:25,412 --> 01:26:28,253
Speaker 2: I have not time, money, health triangle? Right, okay, yep.

1794
01:26:28,333 --> 01:26:32,372
Speaker 2: So when you're young you have time, yes, but not

1795
01:26:32,492 --> 01:26:34,892
Speaker 2: much money yep. But you do have health yep. So

1796
01:26:34,893 --> 01:26:38,652
Speaker 2: when you're young, you're generally healthy, you've got some money,

1797
01:26:38,973 --> 01:26:40,452
Speaker 2: you don't have any money, but and you've maybe got

1798
01:26:40,452 --> 01:26:40,772
Speaker 2: some time.

1799
01:26:40,812 --> 01:26:41,012
Speaker 7: Right.

1800
01:26:41,133 --> 01:26:43,532
Speaker 2: Yes, As you're a middle age you you might have

1801
01:26:43,572 --> 01:26:45,652
Speaker 2: a bit more money and health, but you've got no

1802
01:26:45,692 --> 01:26:49,253
Speaker 2: time because you're working all the time. Right in old age,

1803
01:26:49,293 --> 01:26:51,732
Speaker 2: you may have money and time, but health could be

1804
01:26:51,772 --> 01:26:53,532
Speaker 2: a problem. So that's where you've got to balance all

1805
01:26:53,532 --> 01:26:56,452
Speaker 2: those things. Right, So you know, you could wait your

1806
01:26:56,492 --> 01:26:58,652
Speaker 2: whole life to do this amazing thing when you retire,

1807
01:26:58,652 --> 01:27:00,932
Speaker 2: and you have this vision your whole life when I retire,

1808
01:27:00,973 --> 01:27:02,572
Speaker 2: this is what I'm going to do. But then you

1809
01:27:02,572 --> 01:27:05,572
Speaker 2: get there and your health's gone. So and that's a bummer.

1810
01:27:05,772 --> 01:27:08,812
Speaker 2: It is around. So you're you know, you working your

1811
01:27:08,812 --> 01:27:11,732
Speaker 2: ass off in your thirties and forties, in fifties and

1812
01:27:11,812 --> 01:27:15,173
Speaker 2: creidal amounts of cortisols going through your system, stress and

1813
01:27:15,812 --> 01:27:18,452
Speaker 2: anxiety and alcohol and all those kind of things that

1814
01:27:18,452 --> 01:27:20,732
Speaker 2: are going through your system. Well, you wait for that

1815
01:27:20,812 --> 01:27:23,852
Speaker 2: opportunity to retire so you can finally enjoy life. But

1816
01:27:23,933 --> 01:27:26,333
Speaker 2: when you get there, you've blown out the system. Well

1817
01:27:26,372 --> 01:27:27,612
Speaker 2: you got there. Happens a lot.

1818
01:27:27,652 --> 01:27:29,772
Speaker 3: I do like your idea of this retirement donut that

1819
01:27:29,812 --> 01:27:32,692
Speaker 3: you mentioned though, so effectively, you take a little bit

1820
01:27:32,692 --> 01:27:35,173
Speaker 3: of time off in your fifties hopefully while you've got

1821
01:27:35,213 --> 01:27:36,652
Speaker 3: all of those things. You've got a bit of time,

1822
01:27:36,652 --> 01:27:39,092
Speaker 3: the kids have flying the coop, you've got some money hopefully,

1823
01:27:39,133 --> 01:27:41,732
Speaker 3: and your health is still pretty good. So you take us,

1824
01:27:41,933 --> 01:27:45,612
Speaker 3: well we retirement donut five years go and do the

1825
01:27:45,692 --> 01:27:46,572
Speaker 3: Camino Trail.

1826
01:27:46,652 --> 01:27:47,293
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I.

1827
01:27:47,293 --> 01:27:49,612
Speaker 3: Said it was the a Camaro Trail. A lot of

1828
01:27:49,612 --> 01:27:51,293
Speaker 3: people angry at me for saying that, and then you

1829
01:27:51,293 --> 01:27:52,012
Speaker 3: come back to work.

1830
01:27:52,173 --> 01:27:56,412
Speaker 2: Yeah Camano Trail, not Camaro Trail. You absolute muppets. You

1831
01:27:56,492 --> 01:27:58,932
Speaker 2: really are muppets. That's from Mark Can I just got

1832
01:27:58,973 --> 01:28:00,532
Speaker 2: double muppeted in that tea? Yeah?

1833
01:28:00,572 --> 01:28:02,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, can I just say that was me that said Camaro?

1834
01:28:02,973 --> 01:28:04,972
Speaker 3: So yeah, thank you very much. I'm certainly a muppet.

1835
01:28:05,053 --> 01:28:07,012
Speaker 3: Oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighties and number

1836
01:28:07,053 --> 01:28:07,333
Speaker 3: to call.

1837
01:28:07,492 --> 01:28:10,013
Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting to hear from people that have retired.

1838
01:28:10,133 --> 01:28:12,572
Speaker 2: What if they could go back in time they knew

1839
01:28:12,692 --> 01:28:14,452
Speaker 2: was important? If you know what I mean, the things

1840
01:28:14,452 --> 01:28:16,253
Speaker 2: you wish you would know in your thirties, forties and

1841
01:28:16,253 --> 01:28:19,293
Speaker 2: fifties about retirement that you know now that you're retired.

1842
01:28:20,253 --> 01:28:22,173
Speaker 2: I mean, it's no good for you. You can't go

1843
01:28:22,253 --> 01:28:23,852
Speaker 2: back and change it, but you might be able to

1844
01:28:23,933 --> 01:28:28,253
Speaker 2: offer some advice for people that are millennials like Tyler over.

1845
01:28:28,133 --> 01:28:29,852
Speaker 3: Here exactly can to hear from you. I had one

1846
01:28:29,933 --> 01:28:31,412
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighties the number to call.

1847
01:28:31,612 --> 01:28:32,612
Speaker 2: Peter, Welcome to the show.

1848
01:28:33,612 --> 01:28:37,772
Speaker 25: Good a, yeah, very good. Yeah, I'm I'm a seventy

1849
01:28:37,853 --> 01:28:40,372
Speaker 25: year old and I'm sort of part time retired and

1850
01:28:40,372 --> 01:28:42,812
Speaker 25: I'm pretty happy. And what I do is I work

1851
01:28:42,893 --> 01:28:46,572
Speaker 25: week on, week off, and over the year that money

1852
01:28:46,652 --> 01:28:49,333
Speaker 25: I say from that. My wife does the same. We

1853
01:28:49,853 --> 01:28:53,052
Speaker 25: put the week on money together makes about thirty forty

1854
01:28:53,053 --> 01:28:54,772
Speaker 25: grand and we blow up for two months on an

1855
01:28:54,772 --> 01:28:55,932
Speaker 25: overseas trip every year.

1856
01:28:56,253 --> 01:28:57,733
Speaker 2: Oh nice, So last.

1857
01:28:57,732 --> 01:28:59,732
Speaker 25: Way are we're not taking any of our You know,

1858
01:28:59,853 --> 01:29:01,972
Speaker 25: we've got a house, but we haven't got loads of savings.

1859
01:29:01,973 --> 01:29:04,093
Speaker 25: But it gives us heaps to travel. So last year

1860
01:29:04,133 --> 01:29:06,412
Speaker 25: we did a month in Canada in a month and

1861
01:29:06,452 --> 01:29:08,812
Speaker 25: a jeep in Africa. I'm sleeping on the rod and

1862
01:29:08,853 --> 01:29:11,093
Speaker 25: we're just about to take off again for another couple

1863
01:29:11,173 --> 01:29:13,812
Speaker 25: of months. But then we were. We got week off

1864
01:29:14,133 --> 01:29:14,892
Speaker 25: through the years.

1865
01:29:14,933 --> 01:29:16,612
Speaker 2: He oh, good on you did you get? You didn't get?

1866
01:29:16,973 --> 01:29:19,532
Speaker 2: I saw this video the other day of an elephant

1867
01:29:19,572 --> 01:29:23,013
Speaker 2: coming along and basically ripping the tent off the top

1868
01:29:23,093 --> 01:29:24,293
Speaker 2: of one of those tracks.

1869
01:29:24,772 --> 01:29:27,133
Speaker 25: We we were sleeping on the top, and a couple

1870
01:29:27,173 --> 01:29:29,333
Speaker 25: of nights we actually got chased to bed by some

1871
01:29:29,452 --> 01:29:32,372
Speaker 25: hyaenas by a campfire, but we shut up to bed

1872
01:29:32,452 --> 01:29:34,932
Speaker 25: and I couldn't even have a beer because I didn't

1873
01:29:34,933 --> 01:29:36,093
Speaker 25: want to have a pee during the night.

1874
01:29:37,812 --> 01:29:39,852
Speaker 2: Oh that is it? Yeah, that is a high risk pee,

1875
01:29:39,853 --> 01:29:41,892
Speaker 2: isn't it when you're out the wildlife?

1876
01:29:42,893 --> 01:29:44,652
Speaker 25: Oh no, I brought my wife a she wee as well,

1877
01:29:44,692 --> 01:29:45,972
Speaker 25: so she didn't have to get down either.

1878
01:29:46,772 --> 01:29:49,132
Speaker 2: I definitely be wing off the top of the vehicle

1879
01:29:49,213 --> 01:29:50,293
Speaker 2: rather than getting down.

1880
01:29:50,532 --> 01:29:51,772
Speaker 25: You don't even want to open your door.

1881
01:29:51,812 --> 01:29:55,253
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah right, how exciting? Did you? Did you plan

1882
01:29:55,612 --> 01:29:57,812
Speaker 2: for your retirement? Did you think about that when you were,

1883
01:29:57,973 --> 01:30:00,572
Speaker 2: you know, in your thirties and forties or fifties, or

1884
01:30:00,612 --> 01:30:01,892
Speaker 2: have you just sort of lucked into it?

1885
01:30:02,213 --> 01:30:02,253
Speaker 13: No?

1886
01:30:03,013 --> 01:30:05,093
Speaker 25: I sort of tried to play the mortgage off and

1887
01:30:05,333 --> 01:30:07,133
Speaker 25: like most people, so the time I got to mid

1888
01:30:07,173 --> 01:30:10,972
Speaker 25: sixties and knocked off work and got a part time

1889
01:30:11,053 --> 01:30:12,972
Speaker 25: job that allowed me to do week on, week off

1890
01:30:13,013 --> 01:30:15,213
Speaker 25: and put that money and take off every year. And

1891
01:30:15,213 --> 01:30:17,572
Speaker 25: it's just worked. Lucked into it. I guess it's worked

1892
01:30:17,572 --> 01:30:18,092
Speaker 25: really well.

1893
01:30:18,293 --> 01:30:19,772
Speaker 7: Yeah, well we keep fitting.

1894
01:30:20,173 --> 01:30:22,612
Speaker 25: Someone keeps them blowing us. We'll keep doing a couple

1895
01:30:22,652 --> 01:30:23,372
Speaker 25: of months every year.

1896
01:30:23,452 --> 01:30:26,772
Speaker 2: That's that's so good. But Peter, you and your wife

1897
01:30:26,772 --> 01:30:30,053
Speaker 2: sound like you're very healthy people. Did you did you

1898
01:30:30,053 --> 01:30:32,133
Speaker 2: you know, were you healthy when you were in your thirties,

1899
01:30:32,173 --> 01:30:34,772
Speaker 2: forties and fifties or was it just good jeans?

1900
01:30:34,772 --> 01:30:37,852
Speaker 25: Well I managed to I've got good jeans, but I

1901
01:30:37,933 --> 01:30:40,492
Speaker 25: knocked off smoking in mid thirties, so that was good that.

1902
01:30:40,772 --> 01:30:43,012
Speaker 25: I haven't quite knocked off the beers and the wines yet.

1903
01:30:43,013 --> 01:30:46,612
Speaker 25: But you've got to have one good stuff that but

1904
01:30:46,893 --> 01:30:49,612
Speaker 25: I do take it at a lower effort now, so

1905
01:30:50,013 --> 01:30:52,013
Speaker 25: I'm using a bit oft tacked in the core of me.

1906
01:30:53,133 --> 01:30:55,692
Speaker 3: Was there any fair, Peter, when you hit retirement and

1907
01:30:55,732 --> 01:30:57,933
Speaker 3: clearly you've got a good balance there now, But was

1908
01:30:57,973 --> 01:31:00,812
Speaker 3: there any fear that yet you may get bored if

1909
01:31:00,853 --> 01:31:04,253
Speaker 3: you stopped working completely and figuring out, you know, how

1910
01:31:04,293 --> 01:31:05,892
Speaker 3: you're going to occupy your time day to day.

1911
01:31:06,933 --> 01:31:09,253
Speaker 25: Yeah, well it would be. I mean I'm really social person.

1912
01:31:09,293 --> 01:31:11,612
Speaker 25: So that's why I like to work for one week

1913
01:31:11,652 --> 01:31:14,572
Speaker 25: every every fortnights to meet all the young fellows and

1914
01:31:14,652 --> 01:31:17,492
Speaker 25: still chat and what have you. I've still got plenty

1915
01:31:17,532 --> 01:31:20,293
Speaker 25: to do if I stayed home that second week. But

1916
01:31:20,812 --> 01:31:22,932
Speaker 25: you know that I think the social aspects more important

1917
01:31:23,173 --> 01:31:23,492
Speaker 25: as well.

1918
01:31:24,213 --> 01:31:24,412
Speaker 10: Well.

1919
01:31:24,412 --> 01:31:27,572
Speaker 25: That's what I really enjoyed boring into people to death.

1920
01:31:27,853 --> 01:31:29,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's thing that people need to think

1921
01:31:29,532 --> 01:31:31,572
Speaker 2: about because you often, you know, I talk to people

1922
01:31:31,612 --> 01:31:33,452
Speaker 2: and they go, I'm going to move to the to

1923
01:31:33,532 --> 01:31:36,653
Speaker 2: the country. I'm going to find like a lifestyle block,

1924
01:31:36,652 --> 01:31:39,012
Speaker 2: which often turns into a death style block, but out

1925
01:31:39,013 --> 01:31:42,412
Speaker 2: in the middle of nowhere. And then you think, well, actually,

1926
01:31:42,772 --> 01:31:44,093
Speaker 2: as you get older and you've got the time, you

1927
01:31:44,093 --> 01:31:46,253
Speaker 2: actually want to spend that time with other people a

1928
01:31:46,253 --> 01:31:50,213
Speaker 2: little bit. You know, it's important to Yeah, you might

1929
01:31:50,213 --> 01:31:51,452
Speaker 2: be in the most beautiful spot in the world, but

1930
01:31:51,492 --> 01:31:53,412
Speaker 2: if your family can't easily get to you, and you

1931
01:31:53,452 --> 01:31:55,333
Speaker 2: can't just wander a down and have a drink with

1932
01:31:55,412 --> 01:32:00,452
Speaker 2: friends or whatever, it's it's not necessarily maybe a beautiful retirement,

1933
01:32:00,492 --> 01:32:02,892
Speaker 2: but might be a bit of a lonely retirement.

1934
01:32:03,692 --> 01:32:06,293
Speaker 25: Well, those retirement blocks are tough because I did that

1935
01:32:06,333 --> 01:32:08,772
Speaker 25: when I was about thirty five a life I brought

1936
01:32:09,053 --> 01:32:12,452
Speaker 25: a farm as well as working, yeah, and brought the

1937
01:32:12,532 --> 01:32:14,372
Speaker 25: kids up that way. It was put a hard work

1938
01:32:14,412 --> 01:32:17,892
Speaker 25: because you're working, plus you're working the farm. And so

1939
01:32:18,053 --> 01:32:22,093
Speaker 25: then mid sixties we moved back to semi city. Not

1940
01:32:22,452 --> 01:32:24,572
Speaker 25: right into it, but you know, but yeah, those retirement

1941
01:32:24,572 --> 01:32:27,133
Speaker 25: blocks can. Yeah, they're hard work. You need to be

1942
01:32:27,173 --> 01:32:27,892
Speaker 25: younger to do that.

1943
01:32:28,173 --> 01:32:31,532
Speaker 2: I think you've got to ask the second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth,

1944
01:32:31,612 --> 01:32:34,452
Speaker 2: and tenth question about things not just go Wouldn't that

1945
01:32:34,532 --> 01:32:38,013
Speaker 2: be awesome to just have a bit of land and

1946
01:32:38,133 --> 01:32:40,492
Speaker 2: just be out in the spot and not realize that

1947
01:32:40,572 --> 01:32:42,732
Speaker 2: now that you're giving up holidays for work? Basically that's

1948
01:32:42,772 --> 01:32:45,253
Speaker 2: what you're doing. You know, a holiday comes up and goes, yeah,

1949
01:32:45,293 --> 01:32:47,293
Speaker 2: I'll be working on the death style block. Won'tay for this?

1950
01:32:48,572 --> 01:32:50,812
Speaker 25: Yeah, it is awesome being in the country though, But

1951
01:32:50,893 --> 01:32:52,692
Speaker 25: as I said, you need to be a spot younger

1952
01:32:52,732 --> 01:32:54,892
Speaker 25: to do that, not when you're when you're seventy and eighty.

1953
01:32:55,412 --> 01:32:57,013
Speaker 2: Well you sta, let you crack the code, Peter, So

1954
01:32:57,133 --> 01:32:59,853
Speaker 2: good on you, Bud, Hey, you guys.

1955
01:32:59,612 --> 01:33:01,692
Speaker 3: All right, you're a good man. Oh eight, one hundred

1956
01:33:01,732 --> 01:33:03,612
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call if

1957
01:33:03,612 --> 01:33:05,612
Speaker 3: you want to send a text? Nine two nine two.

1958
01:33:06,013 --> 01:33:07,892
Speaker 3: Are you thinking about your time and early? If you're

1959
01:33:07,933 --> 01:33:11,333
Speaker 3: in your forty fifties or sixties, and if you've hit retirement,

1960
01:33:11,452 --> 01:33:13,333
Speaker 3: what is some advice you could give people who are

1961
01:33:13,372 --> 01:33:14,253
Speaker 3: about to get into.

1962
01:33:14,093 --> 01:33:17,772
Speaker 2: It when you have no money? Retirement sucks. We never had, kisaver.

1963
01:33:17,933 --> 01:33:20,133
Speaker 2: I've got back to work at seventy five to top

1964
01:33:20,213 --> 01:33:24,652
Speaker 2: up the pension. Yeah, I mean no, money makes everything hard,

1965
01:33:24,732 --> 01:33:25,293
Speaker 2: certainly does.

1966
01:33:25,333 --> 01:33:26,732
Speaker 3: Twenty five past three.

1967
01:33:30,772 --> 01:33:34,452
Speaker 7: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1968
01:33:34,492 --> 01:33:36,292
Speaker 7: ten eighty on News Talk said.

1969
01:33:36,053 --> 01:33:38,532
Speaker 3: The afternoon we're talking about how do you prepare for

1970
01:33:38,572 --> 01:33:39,413
Speaker 3: your retirement?

1971
01:33:39,532 --> 01:33:41,452
Speaker 2: I've got to say quickly, Tyler, I just want to

1972
01:33:41,492 --> 01:33:44,053
Speaker 2: say that the New Zealand being voted New Zealand of

1973
01:33:44,053 --> 01:33:46,093
Speaker 2: the Week was very popular choice. You think so, yeah,

1974
01:33:46,412 --> 01:33:48,732
Speaker 2: you'd assume so that, but you know what a great

1975
01:33:48,732 --> 01:33:53,252
Speaker 2: place it is, and just one of them. If anyone

1976
01:33:53,293 --> 01:33:55,412
Speaker 2: deserves to get New Zealander of the Week, it's New Zealand.

1977
01:33:55,492 --> 01:33:57,812
Speaker 3: Nicely said, yeah, it's a well deserved winner. But some

1978
01:33:57,853 --> 01:34:01,573
Speaker 3: of those techs heart heart heart love love love. Yeehah.

1979
01:34:02,093 --> 01:34:05,133
Speaker 3: I'm so glad New Zealand one New Zealander of the Week.

1980
01:34:05,532 --> 01:34:06,972
Speaker 3: That's from Lauras Nice.

1981
01:34:07,173 --> 01:34:09,772
Speaker 2: All right, so welcome to show. Paul. You're sixty eight.

1982
01:34:10,933 --> 01:34:13,612
Speaker 15: I am sixty eight. Welcome Mattham Tala. How are you both?

1983
01:34:13,933 --> 01:34:16,452
Speaker 2: Very good? Very good? Big distance You've called, Paul, so

1984
01:34:16,492 --> 01:34:17,173
Speaker 2: you're still working?

1985
01:34:18,133 --> 01:34:20,772
Speaker 15: I'm sixty eight. Yeah, I worked part time up in

1986
01:34:20,812 --> 01:34:23,732
Speaker 15: manga fire worked for one of the councils up here

1987
01:34:23,732 --> 01:34:26,852
Speaker 15: as an economic development lead. So I've just used on

1988
01:34:26,893 --> 01:34:30,852
Speaker 15: my lifetime experience really to work in that in that role,

1989
01:34:30,893 --> 01:34:35,013
Speaker 15: which is working really well. But yeah, I used to

1990
01:34:35,093 --> 01:34:37,652
Speaker 15: run a big business in the UK years ago and

1991
01:34:37,772 --> 01:34:40,812
Speaker 15: I sold it and made my fortune and then came

1992
01:34:40,893 --> 01:34:43,412
Speaker 15: to New Zealand and the global financial crisis and the

1993
01:34:43,532 --> 01:34:48,892
Speaker 15: child's illness kind of skewed my my retirement plans, which

1994
01:34:49,093 --> 01:34:51,812
Speaker 15: really threw everything into complete chaos. So you never know

1995
01:34:51,853 --> 01:34:56,412
Speaker 15: what's coming, yeah it, Paul, Yes, no matter how much

1996
01:34:56,412 --> 01:34:59,812
Speaker 15: you plan you know things, there's a few curve balls

1997
01:34:59,812 --> 01:35:02,173
Speaker 15: that you're in life, and that's just the way life is,

1998
01:35:02,213 --> 01:35:03,492
Speaker 15: you know, and you've got to be able to be

1999
01:35:03,572 --> 01:35:08,173
Speaker 15: resilient to deal with that, and I've certainly done that.

2000
01:35:08,333 --> 01:35:12,412
Speaker 15: I developed myself quite a nice roll up in Mangi

2001
01:35:12,452 --> 01:35:15,892
Speaker 15: Fi now which I'm really enjoying. And I have got

2002
01:35:15,973 --> 01:35:17,932
Speaker 15: I am sixty eight, I have got the motor home.

2003
01:35:18,053 --> 01:35:20,453
Speaker 15: I do travel around in that or I live in Millwater,

2004
01:35:21,372 --> 01:35:23,973
Speaker 15: so I traveled back down there after I work up

2005
01:35:24,013 --> 01:35:27,333
Speaker 15: in Manga Phi, so I traveled back down to Millwater

2006
01:35:27,372 --> 01:35:29,812
Speaker 15: at the weekends and spend time with my wife. So

2007
01:35:30,492 --> 01:35:35,372
Speaker 15: I've got five children. Nice, yeah, so you know they've

2008
01:35:35,372 --> 01:35:37,972
Speaker 15: all grown up all you know, empty nesters now. So

2009
01:35:38,133 --> 01:35:40,612
Speaker 15: it's just just the way life goes. It's just you've

2010
01:35:40,652 --> 01:35:43,253
Speaker 15: just got to be resilient to whatever life throws at you.

2011
01:35:43,253 --> 01:35:43,412
Speaker 5: You know.

2012
01:35:44,093 --> 01:35:46,452
Speaker 2: Is that is that you know your kids? Imagine if

2013
01:35:46,452 --> 01:35:49,452
Speaker 2: you live on Mani Fi, that's a lot of Now

2014
01:35:49,452 --> 01:35:51,412
Speaker 2: there's an incentive for kids to visit a lot, right.

2015
01:35:52,412 --> 01:35:54,492
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, I don't live in Magnifi. I'm live in Millwaters,

2016
01:35:54,492 --> 01:35:57,013
Speaker 15: but I work in Manga Five work in Magnifi. I

2017
01:35:57,013 --> 01:35:59,253
Speaker 15: work for Hypriate District Council, So I work in Manga

2018
01:35:59,293 --> 01:36:02,572
Speaker 15: Fi and I work in Dargan Mill so I travel

2019
01:36:02,612 --> 01:36:05,372
Speaker 15: between the two of them. But I've got a fantastic

2020
01:36:05,452 --> 01:36:10,093
Speaker 15: job in a fantastic region which is growing exponentially. And

2021
01:36:11,053 --> 01:36:12,692
Speaker 15: you know a lot of Auclanders come up to live

2022
01:36:12,732 --> 01:36:15,452
Speaker 15: in Manga Fi and that the place is creaking at

2023
01:36:15,492 --> 01:36:18,973
Speaker 15: the extremes with people trying to live here. You know,

2024
01:36:19,732 --> 01:36:21,852
Speaker 15: it's a fantastic place to be and I love it

2025
01:36:21,933 --> 01:36:22,253
Speaker 15: up here.

2026
01:36:22,412 --> 01:36:24,452
Speaker 2: But you can just fand down the motorway so easily, now,

2027
01:36:24,812 --> 01:36:25,133
Speaker 2: can't you.

2028
01:36:25,492 --> 01:36:27,293
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's made the difference, so of course now we've

2029
01:36:27,293 --> 01:36:30,412
Speaker 15: got the new motorway going through right the way up

2030
01:36:30,492 --> 01:36:33,732
Speaker 15: to Tihanna. You know, it's going to bring this whole

2031
01:36:34,412 --> 01:36:37,452
Speaker 15: That corridor of motorway will bring a whole lot of

2032
01:36:37,492 --> 01:36:41,012
Speaker 15: growth up to this region and make the make Orkland

2033
01:36:41,053 --> 01:36:43,492
Speaker 15: a little bit more accessible. But I've got to say

2034
01:36:43,492 --> 01:36:45,812
Speaker 15: that working because I've worked in Orchard for twenty years,

2035
01:36:46,253 --> 01:36:49,572
Speaker 15: traveling down to Auckland from a Rewa was a nightmare,

2036
01:36:49,692 --> 01:36:52,932
Speaker 15: you know, two to four hours a day travel. Now

2037
01:36:52,973 --> 01:36:55,772
Speaker 15: I travel up to Manga Fi and I'm the only

2038
01:36:55,853 --> 01:36:59,612
Speaker 15: car on the road. There's no vehicles at all. So

2039
01:37:00,412 --> 01:37:02,372
Speaker 15: suits my retirement to travel up this way.

2040
01:37:02,732 --> 01:37:04,852
Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, I've got a question for you, and you

2041
01:37:04,853 --> 01:37:06,452
Speaker 2: don't have to answer. This is a personal question.

2042
01:37:06,532 --> 01:37:06,692
Speaker 7: Here.

2043
01:37:06,692 --> 01:37:09,492
Speaker 2: Are you in this with the mother of your five

2044
01:37:09,572 --> 01:37:10,213
Speaker 2: children still?

2045
01:37:10,772 --> 01:37:10,972
Speaker 24: Yeah?

2046
01:37:11,013 --> 01:37:12,612
Speaker 15: I am, absolutely, I am yeah.

2047
01:37:12,772 --> 01:37:13,293
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2048
01:37:13,492 --> 01:37:18,253
Speaker 15: We we left the UK twenty years ago and so

2049
01:37:18,572 --> 01:37:20,972
Speaker 15: I brought three children with me and left the two

2050
01:37:21,053 --> 01:37:23,372
Speaker 15: children that had their own lives back in the UK

2051
01:37:23,452 --> 01:37:26,492
Speaker 15: and they're still there now. They've got businesses and we've

2052
01:37:26,492 --> 01:37:29,293
Speaker 15: got grandchildren all over the world. Now, So what what

2053
01:37:29,333 --> 01:37:31,253
Speaker 15: New Zealand has done to me is really opened up

2054
01:37:31,253 --> 01:37:33,532
Speaker 15: the world. So my family have traveled like they've never

2055
01:37:33,572 --> 01:37:38,093
Speaker 15: traveled before. My my my oldest son is married to

2056
01:37:38,133 --> 01:37:41,852
Speaker 15: an Indian. My second son is married to a Welsh girl.

2057
01:37:41,933 --> 01:37:45,213
Speaker 15: My third son is married to with Sri Lankan. My

2058
01:37:45,652 --> 01:37:49,452
Speaker 15: fourth child as a girl, she's living with a Vietnamese guy.

2059
01:37:50,772 --> 01:37:54,812
Speaker 15: My youngest daughter that she lived with the South African.

2060
01:37:54,933 --> 01:37:55,732
Speaker 2: So you've got.

2061
01:38:01,652 --> 01:38:02,133
Speaker 4: New Zealand.

2062
01:38:02,293 --> 01:38:03,372
Speaker 15: New Zealand is great for that.

2063
01:38:03,612 --> 01:38:05,972
Speaker 2: So my question is about that because I think one

2064
01:38:05,973 --> 01:38:08,612
Speaker 2: thing you were talking before about how you and you

2065
01:38:08,652 --> 01:38:10,492
Speaker 2: don't know what's going to happen and you can plan

2066
01:38:11,013 --> 01:38:12,452
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. So a lot of people,

2067
01:38:12,532 --> 01:38:15,572
Speaker 2: you know, you're in a relationship, you have children, and

2068
01:38:15,612 --> 01:38:17,293
Speaker 2: you've got a plan for your retirement, and then that

2069
01:38:17,412 --> 01:38:22,333
Speaker 2: relationship blows up and then and you see this happens

2070
01:38:22,372 --> 01:38:24,012
Speaker 2: to it to a lot of people. I think people

2071
01:38:24,492 --> 01:38:30,452
Speaker 2: don't realize how much a divorce really upsets people's plans

2072
01:38:30,532 --> 01:38:31,732
Speaker 2: for going forward.

2073
01:38:32,452 --> 01:38:32,652
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2074
01:38:32,933 --> 01:38:35,053
Speaker 15: I can't of imagine dealing with that, to be honest, man,

2075
01:38:35,133 --> 01:38:36,572
Speaker 15: that's that would be terrible.

2076
01:38:37,133 --> 01:38:40,732
Speaker 2: You might financially it might be better just to stick

2077
01:38:40,772 --> 01:38:42,013
Speaker 2: it out, And a.

2078
01:38:41,933 --> 01:38:45,133
Speaker 15: Lot of people I just just suck it up and

2079
01:38:45,173 --> 01:38:49,052
Speaker 15: deal with it because the alternative is not worth thinking about.

2080
01:38:49,253 --> 01:38:51,692
Speaker 2: Well, especially you see all these people that they that

2081
01:38:51,732 --> 01:38:53,612
Speaker 2: their marriage breaks up and they get with someone else,

2082
01:38:53,652 --> 01:38:55,732
Speaker 2: and then that one is just as bad as the

2083
01:38:55,732 --> 01:38:57,932
Speaker 2: previous one, because you know, wherever you go, there you are.

2084
01:38:57,973 --> 01:38:59,932
Speaker 2: And then you get into the next one. You've got

2085
01:38:59,933 --> 01:39:02,412
Speaker 2: all these financial repercussions, and you realize that the problem

2086
01:39:02,492 --> 01:39:03,732
Speaker 2: wasn't it was you.

2087
01:39:04,772 --> 01:39:06,133
Speaker 15: I'm going to say, what happened to me at the

2088
01:39:06,133 --> 01:39:09,893
Speaker 15: GFC was really this. I used to iced to be

2089
01:39:09,893 --> 01:39:12,612
Speaker 15: a bank manager for national bank and A and ZED

2090
01:39:12,652 --> 01:39:15,692
Speaker 15: took over a national bank at the time, and the

2091
01:39:16,093 --> 01:39:18,812
Speaker 15: national bank I had my mortgage with, and they made

2092
01:39:18,853 --> 01:39:22,293
Speaker 15: me redundant. In the GFC, the same bank took my

2093
01:39:22,293 --> 01:39:22,892
Speaker 15: house off me.

2094
01:39:23,732 --> 01:39:25,932
Speaker 2: Wow, the bank you were working for, the.

2095
01:39:25,933 --> 01:39:28,532
Speaker 15: Bank I was working for when I was made redundant,

2096
01:39:28,652 --> 01:39:30,772
Speaker 15: they took them, they took they took my house off me,

2097
01:39:30,853 --> 01:39:33,732
Speaker 15: which was you know, that's that's a bit of pilter

2098
01:39:33,772 --> 01:39:36,452
Speaker 15: swallow and yeah, quite hard to come back to terms with.

2099
01:39:36,532 --> 01:39:38,012
Speaker 15: And so I've been renting ever since.

2100
01:39:38,412 --> 01:39:42,092
Speaker 2: Right, But you seem like a cheerful chet Paul seemed

2101
01:39:42,093 --> 01:39:42,772
Speaker 2: like you positive.

2102
01:39:43,053 --> 01:39:45,213
Speaker 15: No, I am now, I'm very I'm very optimistic I've

2103
01:39:45,253 --> 01:39:50,253
Speaker 15: got I'm very optimistic and always have been, and my

2104
01:39:50,452 --> 01:39:53,812
Speaker 15: children are really just incredible people who were who were

2105
01:39:53,853 --> 01:39:58,652
Speaker 15: so optimistic and so entrepreneurial as well. Actually, we've all

2106
01:39:58,692 --> 01:40:03,333
Speaker 15: got that entrepreneurial gene inside us and it's it's it

2107
01:40:03,532 --> 01:40:05,333
Speaker 15: just puts a smile on your face all the time.

2108
01:40:05,372 --> 01:40:07,452
Speaker 15: So I mean, although I'm sixty eights, I don't feel

2109
01:40:07,492 --> 01:40:09,973
Speaker 15: sixty eight. I feel like it's a new forty for me.

2110
01:40:10,452 --> 01:40:13,892
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well you sound like it, mate, So thank

2111
01:40:13,893 --> 01:40:16,412
Speaker 2: you so much for your call and good luck with everything.

2112
01:40:17,013 --> 01:40:18,852
Speaker 15: Yeah, thanks very much, Matt Taile love a good afternoon.

2113
01:40:18,933 --> 01:40:20,852
Speaker 3: Yeah you too, mate. What a great New Zealander he is.

2114
01:40:20,893 --> 01:40:23,492
Speaker 3: Love that attitude. Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty

2115
01:40:23,652 --> 01:40:26,013
Speaker 3: is the number to call. We've got headlines hot on

2116
01:40:26,093 --> 01:40:29,133
Speaker 3: our tales, but really keen to hear how you plan

2117
01:40:29,213 --> 01:40:30,053
Speaker 3: for your retirements.

2118
01:40:30,133 --> 01:40:32,892
Speaker 2: A lot of people texting in they're running death style blocks.

2119
01:40:33,372 --> 01:40:35,093
Speaker 2: They thought they were going to be lifestyle blocks, but

2120
01:40:35,253 --> 01:40:38,452
Speaker 2: then his Josh Wellington says, I've got eleven acres of

2121
01:40:38,492 --> 01:40:40,253
Speaker 2: a to do list exactly.

2122
01:40:40,572 --> 01:40:42,132
Speaker 3: It's twenty six to four.

2123
01:40:44,652 --> 01:40:45,333
Speaker 7: News talks.

2124
01:40:45,333 --> 01:40:48,293
Speaker 13: It'd be headlines with blue bubble taxes. It's no trouble

2125
01:40:48,372 --> 01:40:51,652
Speaker 13: with the blue bubble. New Zealand's attempts at improving health

2126
01:40:51,692 --> 01:40:54,333
Speaker 13: and wellbeing over the last twenty five years have been

2127
01:40:54,412 --> 01:40:58,053
Speaker 13: found to be patchy at best. The Public Health Advisory

2128
01:40:58,053 --> 01:41:01,532
Speaker 13: Committee has released its report and is recommending wealth tax

2129
01:41:01,772 --> 01:41:05,253
Speaker 13: and a cross party focus on well being. New Zealand

2130
01:41:05,253 --> 01:41:08,612
Speaker 13: authorities have confirmed there is no tsunami risk here after

2131
01:41:08,652 --> 01:41:12,173
Speaker 13: a seven point five earthquake off South America. The quake

2132
01:41:12,253 --> 01:41:15,253
Speaker 13: had near the Drake Passage, a body of water south

2133
01:41:15,253 --> 01:41:19,532
Speaker 13: of Argentina, at a depth of ten kilometers. Our seventeen

2134
01:41:19,612 --> 01:41:22,652
Speaker 13: year old boys in a critical condition after being stabbed

2135
01:41:22,692 --> 01:41:26,612
Speaker 13: outside a home in Hamilton's Malville yesterday. Blissa still searching

2136
01:41:26,652 --> 01:41:30,172
Speaker 13: for the seven people they believe were involved. A person

2137
01:41:30,253 --> 01:41:33,572
Speaker 13: seriously injured following a medical incident at the Selwyn Aquatic

2138
01:41:33,652 --> 01:41:36,892
Speaker 13: Center in Canterbury. Emergency services were called to the pool

2139
01:41:36,893 --> 01:41:40,893
Speaker 13: on Broadland's Drive on Roliston around one point thirty this afternoon.

2140
01:41:41,692 --> 01:41:45,732
Speaker 13: Eric Menndez has been denied parole three decades after murdering

2141
01:41:45,772 --> 01:41:48,933
Speaker 13: his parents in Los Angeles and the Eight Rules of

2142
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Speaker 13: Dating in New Zealand and twenty twenty five. See the

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Speaker 13: full story at Enzed Herald Premium. Now back to Matt

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Speaker 13: and Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy, and we're talking about how

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01:41:57,013 --> 01:42:00,493
Speaker 3: do you prepare for your retirement thirties, forties, fifties and sixties,

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01:42:00,532 --> 01:42:04,052
Speaker 3: and if you're currently retired retired rather, what's your advice

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01:42:04,372 --> 01:42:05,852
Speaker 3: for people who were steering that down?

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Speaker 2: And we're not just talking out financially, we're talking about

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01:42:10,492 --> 01:42:12,772
Speaker 2: mentally and health wise. You know, we were talking before

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01:42:12,772 --> 01:42:16,333
Speaker 2: about the retirement donut, where you take some time off

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01:42:16,452 --> 01:42:19,892
Speaker 2: when you were younger. Yes, and as everyone points out,

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01:42:20,013 --> 01:42:21,892
Speaker 2: very few people could do that, like it's an idea,

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01:42:22,013 --> 01:42:24,532
Speaker 2: but you know who lets you? You know, you might

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01:42:24,572 --> 01:42:26,892
Speaker 2: take your donut and that might be it. They might

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01:42:26,933 --> 01:42:28,692
Speaker 2: not take you back. Yeah, very true. You have to

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01:42:28,772 --> 01:42:31,492
Speaker 2: be a very particularly good position in life to be

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Speaker 2: able to take, you know, a couple of years off

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Speaker 2: in your fifties and then get back into it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, got to clarify that. Oh one hundred and eighty

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01:42:37,893 --> 01:42:38,732
Speaker 3: teen eighties and number to.

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Speaker 2: Call, Sharon, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 20: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: You're retired early?

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Speaker 20: Well, if you class sixty five was the you know

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01:42:49,372 --> 01:42:52,253
Speaker 20: line where people do usually retire. I guess you could

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01:42:52,253 --> 01:42:56,732
Speaker 20: say I did I retired at sixty three after a career,

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01:42:57,133 --> 01:42:59,932
Speaker 20: you know, since working since I was seventeen. There's only

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Speaker 20: a bit of time off to have our son. But yeah,

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01:43:03,093 --> 01:43:05,732
Speaker 20: it was quite a mind shift to actually do that.

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01:43:07,572 --> 01:43:11,333
Speaker 20: You know, we're completely and I think people perhaps, you know,

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01:43:11,372 --> 01:43:13,093
Speaker 20: think they might be just be able to, like you say,

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01:43:13,452 --> 01:43:15,852
Speaker 20: be on the beach and do nothing. You can't do that.

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01:43:15,853 --> 01:43:20,372
Speaker 20: It'll drive your BARMI So you really got to actually

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01:43:20,492 --> 01:43:24,933
Speaker 20: find something to do with yourself. You've got to perhaps volunteer,

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Speaker 20: have a good group of friends that you get together with,

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Speaker 20: find something sporty to do if you like that sort

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Speaker 20: of thing, all sorts of things that it's good to

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01:43:33,133 --> 01:43:35,972
Speaker 20: be with people, not all of the time, but still

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01:43:35,973 --> 01:43:39,213
Speaker 20: be engaged with people. I think otherwise. You know, my

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01:43:39,293 --> 01:43:42,572
Speaker 20: husband's not retired. He's only just not like long ago,

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01:43:42,812 --> 01:43:45,412
Speaker 20: gone down to four days a week and he's sixty eight.

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Speaker 20: And I always said to him that, you know, he

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01:43:47,973 --> 01:43:51,253
Speaker 20: was making mumbles about being retired, and always said to him,

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01:43:51,293 --> 01:43:52,932
Speaker 20: when you're going to have to find a golf club

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01:43:52,973 --> 01:43:56,293
Speaker 20: because I might have married you for love and I

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01:43:56,333 --> 01:43:57,652
Speaker 20: didn't marry you for lunch.

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Speaker 2: It's a good line.

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Speaker 20: So you know, you just have to find something to

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01:44:03,492 --> 01:44:05,093
Speaker 20: do it. We live on a lifestyle block, so yeah,

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01:44:05,093 --> 01:44:07,452
Speaker 20: we've got three acres of a list of things to do.

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01:44:08,692 --> 01:44:10,652
Speaker 20: And my husband always says that keeps them young.

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01:44:11,452 --> 01:44:14,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So when did you move on to the

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Speaker 2: three acres Sharon?

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01:44:16,093 --> 01:44:17,772
Speaker 20: Oh, we've looked to it. We've always lived on a

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Speaker 20: life style block since nineteen eighty six, not this particular one,

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01:44:21,213 --> 01:44:23,492
Speaker 20: but this one. We've lived here for twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: Does that end into your holiday time? Because we're hearing

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01:44:26,372 --> 01:44:28,492
Speaker 2: a lot of people texting and saying they moved onto

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01:44:28,532 --> 01:44:30,852
Speaker 2: the lifestyle block and it became a death style block

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01:44:30,933 --> 01:44:34,372
Speaker 2: because they were having to work all week and then

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01:44:34,372 --> 01:44:37,572
Speaker 2: in the weekends and on holidays work on their lifestyle block.

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01:44:37,612 --> 01:44:39,852
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess three acres, like you've got a

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01:44:39,853 --> 01:44:41,572
Speaker 2: little bit more manageable than some of these people that

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01:44:41,612 --> 01:44:43,853
Speaker 2: are eleven twelve, fifteen acres.

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01:44:44,093 --> 01:44:46,812
Speaker 20: Yeah, we used to have nearly eleven acres in Albany,

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01:44:47,133 --> 01:44:49,773
Speaker 20: and it is two big, three eight acres is quite manageable.

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Speaker 20: But we have a son and he has to come

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01:44:52,572 --> 01:44:55,892
Speaker 20: to look after things as we go away. So yeah,

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01:44:55,933 --> 01:44:57,973
Speaker 20: we're very fortunate like that, but you do find need

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01:44:57,973 --> 01:44:59,133
Speaker 20: to find something to do.

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01:44:59,133 --> 01:45:02,253
Speaker 2: Do you did your retirement did when you were younger?

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01:45:02,253 --> 01:45:05,692
Speaker 2: Did you picture your retirement and is your retirement the

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01:45:05,732 --> 01:45:07,213
Speaker 2: way you pictured it? Sharon?

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01:45:07,532 --> 01:45:07,812
Speaker 11: Oh?

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01:45:07,973 --> 01:45:10,333
Speaker 20: Well, I mean I never really thought about it, which

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01:45:10,372 --> 01:45:12,452
Speaker 20: is an odd thing to say on but I never

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01:45:12,492 --> 01:45:14,612
Speaker 20: really did because you know, loom me up in your

2220
01:45:14,652 --> 01:45:18,732
Speaker 20: sixties comes up pretty fast. And I actually didn't think

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01:45:18,732 --> 01:45:20,892
Speaker 20: about it because I was busy working in other things

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01:45:20,893 --> 01:45:23,812
Speaker 20: that we were talking, and no, to be honest, I

2223
01:45:23,893 --> 01:45:25,133
Speaker 20: never actually thought about it.

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01:45:25,452 --> 01:45:28,133
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, good on your Sharon. Sounds like you're doing

2225
01:45:28,213 --> 01:45:32,293
Speaker 2: very well. Johnny here though this is his plan. Yeah, hi, guys,

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01:45:32,293 --> 01:45:34,852
Speaker 2: being a hopeless drunkard. My retirement plan consists of buying

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01:45:34,893 --> 01:45:35,972
Speaker 2: a lot of ticket each week.

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01:45:36,412 --> 01:45:39,892
Speaker 3: Good luck with that, Johnny. Oh one hundred and eighty

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01:45:39,893 --> 01:45:41,492
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call if you want

2230
01:45:41,492 --> 01:45:43,333
Speaker 3: to send the text. We've got plenty coming through. Nine

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01:45:43,372 --> 01:45:44,293
Speaker 3: to nine two.

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01:45:45,532 --> 01:45:49,532
Speaker 2: It's a life sentence block, says Peter nicely said. It

2233
01:45:49,652 --> 01:45:50,892
Speaker 2: is eighteen to four.

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01:45:52,253 --> 01:45:57,092
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons.

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01:45:56,652 --> 01:45:59,452
Speaker 7: Call Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk.

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01:45:59,293 --> 01:46:01,212
Speaker 3: Said, be afternoon.

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01:46:01,253 --> 01:46:02,093
Speaker 2: It is a quarter to four.

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01:46:02,133 --> 01:46:04,492
Speaker 3: We're talking about preparing for your retirement. Are you thinking

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01:46:04,492 --> 01:46:07,012
Speaker 3: about it in your thirties, forties, fifties? And for those

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Speaker 3: who have retired, what is your advice to those people

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01:46:09,853 --> 01:46:13,412
Speaker 3: steering down retirement to the next decade or so? Oh

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01:46:13,412 --> 01:46:15,012
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighteen eighty to number.

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01:46:14,772 --> 01:46:16,932
Speaker 2: To call Steve, Welcome to the show.

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01:46:18,013 --> 01:46:18,812
Speaker 4: Goodday, guys.

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01:46:18,893 --> 01:46:19,372
Speaker 24: How are you going?

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01:46:19,893 --> 01:46:23,253
Speaker 2: Very good? Thank you? Thanks for calling. You've got some tips?

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01:46:23,692 --> 01:46:26,333
Speaker 24: Yeah, just coming through clear because the phone started breaking

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01:46:26,452 --> 01:46:27,093
Speaker 24: up a little bit.

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01:46:27,372 --> 01:46:30,612
Speaker 2: You were beautifully clear, Steve. Beautiful. It's like you're sitting

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Speaker 2: inside my head. Lovely.

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01:46:32,812 --> 01:46:33,012
Speaker 25: Yep.

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01:46:33,093 --> 01:46:37,532
Speaker 24: I'm seventy five, Okay, I still work part time. I

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01:46:37,612 --> 01:46:41,532
Speaker 24: started starting for retirement. I don't know thirty forty years

2254
01:46:41,572 --> 01:46:45,612
Speaker 24: ago with AMP I started, didn't you know? I didn't

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Speaker 24: put much away. But I'll tell you what now we've

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01:46:48,213 --> 01:46:52,812
Speaker 24: had three big holiday fifteen, eighteen and twenty three wurs

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01:46:52,853 --> 01:46:56,092
Speaker 24: of England and Europe.

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01:46:58,612 --> 01:47:01,173
Speaker 3: Ah, but I still you carry on, Steve. You just

2259
01:47:01,173 --> 01:47:02,732
Speaker 3: broke up a bit to bet carry on.

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01:47:03,612 --> 01:47:06,653
Speaker 24: I have free halt at our house. In twenty and fourteen,

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01:47:07,093 --> 01:47:09,333
Speaker 24: I went into the National Bank it was then, and

2262
01:47:09,652 --> 01:47:11,692
Speaker 24: said I wanted to write out the check for every

2263
01:47:11,812 --> 01:47:14,333
Speaker 24: sind Iowa, and I don't want to hear from you again.

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01:47:15,893 --> 01:47:18,612
Speaker 2: Is that exactly what you said? Yep, I don't want

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01:47:18,612 --> 01:47:19,293
Speaker 2: to hear from you again.

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01:47:19,372 --> 01:47:22,412
Speaker 3: I want to tell you our relationship at this point is.

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01:47:22,412 --> 01:47:24,412
Speaker 2: Done on your national being horse and ride up at

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01:47:24,412 --> 01:47:26,372
Speaker 2: the sunset. I don't care, and.

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01:47:26,333 --> 01:47:29,093
Speaker 24: I'll tell you what National Bank has been was a

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01:47:29,133 --> 01:47:31,492
Speaker 24: really good bank. And I've ended up with it about

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01:47:31,492 --> 01:47:33,892
Speaker 24: the A and Z. What a bloody outfit that is.

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01:47:34,973 --> 01:47:36,372
Speaker 2: In a good way or a bad way?

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01:47:37,532 --> 01:47:42,692
Speaker 24: No it's not they're not good. But anyway, I did

2274
01:47:42,772 --> 01:47:45,732
Speaker 24: start saving. But when you're self employed, the more you save,

2275
01:47:45,812 --> 01:47:47,692
Speaker 24: the more they tax you, so you get wiped out

2276
01:47:47,732 --> 01:47:51,213
Speaker 24: every year anyway. But I did keep this a MP saving.

2277
01:47:51,333 --> 01:47:54,692
Speaker 24: It's still going. I still pay into it, but it's

2278
01:47:54,692 --> 01:47:57,173
Speaker 24: it's really part of it. My wife had a good

2279
01:47:57,213 --> 01:48:00,333
Speaker 24: saving scheme for when she worked. So we've flown a

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01:48:00,333 --> 01:48:03,612
Speaker 24: lot of our cast on three big trips overseas and

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01:48:03,692 --> 01:48:04,652
Speaker 24: I don't regret a.

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01:48:04,732 --> 01:48:05,812
Speaker 2: Scent of love it.

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01:48:05,893 --> 01:48:06,452
Speaker 3: Where'd you go?

2284
01:48:07,532 --> 01:48:11,412
Speaker 24: Well? We minis and we drove Minis all over England.

2285
01:48:11,452 --> 01:48:14,333
Speaker 24: The first time in fifteen we're away for two months

2286
01:48:14,933 --> 01:48:17,932
Speaker 24: and then in eighteen we' have for three months and

2287
01:48:17,973 --> 01:48:21,093
Speaker 24: then in twenty three we were away for four months

2288
01:48:21,372 --> 01:48:23,892
Speaker 24: and we did in twenty three we did a cruise

2289
01:48:23,933 --> 01:48:27,532
Speaker 24: down there and down the river and out of Germany

2290
01:48:27,612 --> 01:48:34,612
Speaker 24: and down from I put a piece to down into

2291
01:48:35,053 --> 01:48:35,813
Speaker 24: the Netherlands.

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01:48:35,853 --> 01:48:36,133
Speaker 2: Wow.

2293
01:48:36,853 --> 01:48:38,372
Speaker 24: So that was that was really good.

2294
01:48:38,572 --> 01:48:39,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, what an experience.

2295
01:48:40,532 --> 01:48:44,333
Speaker 24: I still got to work with the pension really only helped.

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01:48:45,213 --> 01:48:47,212
Speaker 24: It doesn't contribute completely.

2297
01:48:47,253 --> 01:48:48,972
Speaker 2: But what kind of work are you doing, Steve?

2298
01:48:49,893 --> 01:48:52,253
Speaker 24: A contractor? I got a bob Cat and trucks.

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01:48:52,532 --> 01:48:54,412
Speaker 2: Oh yeah nice? Or how good? Yeah?

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01:48:55,612 --> 01:48:59,293
Speaker 24: Nineteen seventy eight, still going strong?

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01:49:00,253 --> 01:49:02,173
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, yeah, good one, Steve.

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01:49:02,492 --> 01:49:04,293
Speaker 3: What a good man. Thank you very much, Steve, really

2303
01:49:04,333 --> 01:49:06,293
Speaker 3: appreciate it. Sounds like you've got a cracked I.

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01:49:06,253 --> 01:49:08,812
Speaker 2: Was bummed when the National Bank turned into Ends. I

2305
01:49:08,853 --> 01:49:10,532
Speaker 2: mean I've been very happy with that and Z ever since.

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01:49:10,532 --> 01:49:12,572
Speaker 2: But I love the horse. Yeah, and I love the

2307
01:49:12,652 --> 01:49:19,652
Speaker 2: Viveldi's four seasons, the house, the horse riding around. Yeah,

2308
01:49:19,692 --> 01:49:20,652
Speaker 2: it was it was great.

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01:49:20,973 --> 01:49:21,972
Speaker 3: Bring back those ads.

2310
01:49:22,093 --> 01:49:25,053
Speaker 2: Yeah. So there's another bank that uses the horse now.

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01:49:25,173 --> 01:49:26,812
Speaker 2: I think it might have been the people that owned

2312
01:49:26,853 --> 01:49:31,732
Speaker 2: the National Bank overseas, but the Horse Bank the horse now,

2313
01:49:32,133 --> 01:49:33,732
Speaker 2: the Horse Horse Logo Bank.

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01:49:33,732 --> 01:49:36,652
Speaker 3: I'll look it up those az ads just just not

2315
01:49:36,732 --> 01:49:37,732
Speaker 3: as good, not as good.

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01:49:38,532 --> 01:49:38,932
Speaker 5: Troy.

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01:49:39,933 --> 01:49:40,692
Speaker 3: How are you mates?

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01:49:42,253 --> 01:49:44,492
Speaker 12: Hey, good guys, how are you very good? Retirement? What

2319
01:49:44,572 --> 01:49:45,572
Speaker 12: a wassh? What a wish?

2320
01:49:46,213 --> 01:49:46,452
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:49:46,612 --> 01:49:48,972
Speaker 12: Oh my gosh, there's something I was hoping for when

2322
01:49:48,973 --> 01:49:52,092
Speaker 12: I was in my forties. Unfortunately my wife got cancer.

2323
01:49:52,253 --> 01:49:54,213
Speaker 12: So in my fifties I sort of been, oh, how

2324
01:49:54,253 --> 01:49:57,612
Speaker 12: do you deal with this? But then then life changes

2325
01:49:58,333 --> 01:50:02,253
Speaker 12: and twenty twenty one two I met my beautiful new

2326
01:50:02,253 --> 01:50:05,492
Speaker 12: wife and now I've got a three year old and

2327
01:50:05,532 --> 01:50:07,572
Speaker 12: the only reason I'm puffing and picking up boxes because

2328
01:50:07,612 --> 01:50:09,612
Speaker 12: guess what, I think I'll be working time about eighty.

2329
01:50:10,812 --> 01:50:12,892
Speaker 2: So how old are you now, Troy? If you don't

2330
01:50:12,893 --> 01:50:13,773
Speaker 2: mind me asking.

2331
01:50:14,812 --> 01:50:16,973
Speaker 12: I should say thirty six, but I'm fifty six. But

2332
01:50:17,133 --> 01:50:20,812
Speaker 12: you know I think, yeah, my wife's thirty four. And

2333
01:50:20,893 --> 01:50:23,452
Speaker 12: I'll tell you what, I have no qualms in working

2334
01:50:23,452 --> 01:50:26,452
Speaker 12: well into my seventies. The reality is you think about

2335
01:50:26,492 --> 01:50:27,892
Speaker 12: what you have to do as well to be able

2336
01:50:27,933 --> 01:50:29,612
Speaker 12: to bring your kids up and do the right thing.

2337
01:50:29,933 --> 01:50:31,573
Speaker 12: We just have to keep working sometimes.

2338
01:50:32,933 --> 01:50:35,452
Speaker 3: I mean it's not bad though, yeah, yeah, well just

2339
01:50:35,492 --> 01:50:37,572
Speaker 3: saying you know that for what happened with you, And

2340
01:50:37,612 --> 01:50:39,093
Speaker 3: so sorry to hear that, Troy. But now you've got

2341
01:50:39,093 --> 01:50:41,173
Speaker 3: a beautiful new wife and a three year old daughter.

2342
01:50:41,452 --> 01:50:43,133
Speaker 3: That is a hell of a lot of motivation to

2343
01:50:43,492 --> 01:50:43,932
Speaker 3: keep going.

2344
01:50:45,053 --> 01:50:47,812
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mane it's the motivation is my wife, the

2345
01:50:47,853 --> 01:50:50,333
Speaker 12: family doing everything we can as well. I mean, yeah,

2346
01:50:50,893 --> 01:50:53,333
Speaker 12: unfortunately we're both so we're trying to stand for local

2347
01:50:53,372 --> 01:50:55,372
Speaker 12: government and trying to give back to the community and

2348
01:50:55,372 --> 01:50:57,973
Speaker 12: do what isn't but that's life what sometimes you want

2349
01:50:58,013 --> 01:50:59,052
Speaker 12: to try and help out everybody.

2350
01:50:59,372 --> 01:51:02,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you sound like you've got a fantastic attitude.

2351
01:51:03,013 --> 01:51:06,612
Speaker 2: So so where do you see yourself when you're you know,

2352
01:51:06,652 --> 01:51:07,692
Speaker 2: in twenty years from now.

2353
01:51:09,093 --> 01:51:12,173
Speaker 12: I see myself in local government, but I also see

2354
01:51:12,173 --> 01:51:15,133
Speaker 12: myself having to be honest, having my kid's older, look

2355
01:51:15,173 --> 01:51:18,013
Speaker 12: after them and do whatever you can. I'm one of

2356
01:51:18,053 --> 01:51:19,772
Speaker 12: these few people that actually love living in Auckland.

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01:51:19,933 --> 01:51:20,133
Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 12: It's a great area. It's good for what we want

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01:51:23,532 --> 01:51:26,652
Speaker 12: and we're trying to do the best. I mean, I know, Tyler,

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01:51:26,692 --> 01:51:29,213
Speaker 12: I think you're in Mount Wellington. I am as well, mate.

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01:51:29,253 --> 01:51:31,412
Speaker 12: I mean it's a good area. We try and do

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Speaker 12: the best for kicking for our area. That's what it's about.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, you know, a caller before was saying about

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01:51:37,812 --> 01:51:39,933
Speaker 2: how you can plan, but you don't know what's going

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01:51:40,013 --> 01:51:41,572
Speaker 2: to happen. And in your case, you know, you had

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01:51:41,572 --> 01:51:44,652
Speaker 2: your plans, you had your life, and then what happened

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01:51:44,652 --> 01:51:47,412
Speaker 2: with your wife, which is obviously a huge, huge tragedy,

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01:51:47,492 --> 01:51:49,372
Speaker 2: but you know you couldn't have planned for that. You

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01:51:49,492 --> 01:51:52,013
Speaker 2: just have to sort of keep going. And then it

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01:51:52,053 --> 01:51:54,293
Speaker 2: sounds like you're in a good space now.

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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 12: I'll be honest. When I met my current wife, I

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01:51:57,732 --> 01:52:00,053
Speaker 12: had no desire to have kids, and then all of

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01:52:00,093 --> 01:52:01,812
Speaker 12: a sudden we came one. And I'll tell you what,

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01:52:02,133 --> 01:52:03,812
Speaker 12: I don't care how old you are. It's a blessing

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01:52:03,812 --> 01:52:05,132
Speaker 12: and you take it and that's I'm.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, brogant.

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Speaker 12: So no matter what you plan for, just live life

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01:52:09,013 --> 01:52:11,093
Speaker 12: now and just see what happens as well. That's all

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01:52:11,173 --> 01:52:11,532
Speaker 12: you can do.

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Speaker 2: I'll get on your Troy, thanks for your call and

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01:52:13,333 --> 01:52:14,612
Speaker 2: all the best out there. Well, I'll tell you what

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01:52:14,612 --> 01:52:18,133
Speaker 2: you see. Barry's sop with his kids and they make

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01:52:18,213 --> 01:52:18,892
Speaker 2: him very happy.

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01:52:19,053 --> 01:52:21,772
Speaker 3: Absolutely, the energy that man's got now at the age

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01:52:21,812 --> 01:52:23,732
Speaker 3: of Oh, I shouldn't say what his age is, but

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01:52:23,772 --> 01:52:26,133
Speaker 3: I don't even know what age. He'll keep going from

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01:52:26,173 --> 01:52:27,093
Speaker 3: him fifty years Barry.

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01:52:27,173 --> 01:52:29,333
Speaker 2: He's not a millennial, I know that much. He's certainly not.

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01:52:29,532 --> 01:52:31,972
Speaker 2: But he's got a couple of very very cute kids,

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01:52:32,093 --> 01:52:34,173
Speaker 2: very very cute. Hey. So the bank I was talking

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01:52:34,173 --> 01:52:36,812
Speaker 2: about was Lloyd's Bank, that's right. So Lloyd's Bank and

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01:52:37,013 --> 01:52:40,732
Speaker 2: National Bank had the green logo with the horse yep.

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01:52:41,053 --> 01:52:44,333
Speaker 2: And I was very proud of being a national bank person.

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01:52:44,372 --> 01:52:45,933
Speaker 2: I don't know why my dad took me into that

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01:52:45,933 --> 01:52:48,333
Speaker 2: bank randomly andeda when I was thirteen, and we had

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01:52:48,372 --> 01:52:50,733
Speaker 2: the National Bank for a long time. And there's Vivaldi's

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01:52:50,732 --> 01:52:54,652
Speaker 2: full season, but that was also Lloyd's Bank. Yeah, you go.

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Speaker 3: A majest of course makes a bank, absolutely right. It

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01:52:57,652 --> 01:53:01,173
Speaker 3: is eight minutes to four, coming up after the break,

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01:53:01,253 --> 01:53:04,892
Speaker 3: A really beautiful text from someone who's absolutely by the

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01:53:04,933 --> 01:53:07,333
Speaker 3: sounds of that cracked retirement. We'll get to that next.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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01:53:12,812 --> 01:53:13,812
Speaker 1: everything in between.

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01:53:14,013 --> 01:53:16,932
Speaker 7: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons used talks.

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01:53:16,973 --> 01:53:17,253
Speaker 4: It be.

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01:53:18,933 --> 01:53:19,492
Speaker 2: News talks.

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01:53:19,492 --> 01:53:19,652
Speaker 23: It be.

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01:53:19,732 --> 01:53:21,972
Speaker 3: It is six two four. And I mentioned this text

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01:53:21,973 --> 01:53:24,493
Speaker 3: before from someone who seems to have really cracked retirement,

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01:53:24,492 --> 01:53:26,612
Speaker 3: and here it is. Get a guys, I'm seventy six

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01:53:26,692 --> 01:53:29,173
Speaker 3: off to walk three hundred and sixty k's of the

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01:53:29,173 --> 01:53:31,772
Speaker 3: Camino Trail with my thirty seven year old son after

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01:53:31,812 --> 01:53:34,572
Speaker 3: a week driving around Ireland and a week in Rome

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01:53:34,612 --> 01:53:37,173
Speaker 3: in Venice. Yeah, live on a lifestyle block with my

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01:53:37,213 --> 01:53:39,452
Speaker 3: eighty five year old husband and we grow most vegis

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01:53:39,492 --> 01:53:41,812
Speaker 3: and fruit. Have a daughter and son in law and

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01:53:41,853 --> 01:53:44,333
Speaker 3: eight grandkids on the property next door, and son and

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01:53:44,412 --> 01:53:47,052
Speaker 3: daughter in law with four kids on a property above ours.

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01:53:47,093 --> 01:53:50,532
Speaker 3: Twenty one grandchildren, two great grandchildren. Heaps to do living

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01:53:50,572 --> 01:53:54,092
Speaker 3: in the rural community. Walking groups, exercise groups, sports clubs,

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01:53:54,133 --> 01:53:57,173
Speaker 3: craft groups, one held at the local pub, all sorts.

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01:53:57,213 --> 01:53:58,372
Speaker 3: It is definitely the good life.

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01:53:58,612 --> 01:54:00,973
Speaker 2: Crack the code there. So that brings us to the

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01:54:01,053 --> 01:54:04,213
Speaker 2: end of metting Tyler Afternoons for another week. Thanks so

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01:54:04,293 --> 01:54:06,612
Speaker 2: much for listening to the show. It was nice to

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01:54:06,612 --> 01:54:08,692
Speaker 2: see this week that the show just keeps getting more

2428
01:54:08,732 --> 01:54:11,412
Speaker 2: and more listeners. In the radio book, there have so

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01:54:12,173 --> 01:54:14,852
Speaker 2: now Tyler and I look, we love your calls and

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01:54:14,893 --> 01:54:17,532
Speaker 2: tex so much. We like to celebrate one each week.

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01:54:17,612 --> 01:54:20,293
Speaker 2: On a Wednesday, we were talking about On the Wednesday,

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01:54:20,293 --> 01:54:23,492
Speaker 2: we were talking about Trump as the whole world tends

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01:54:23,532 --> 01:54:27,812
Speaker 2: to do and this. On that day, Paul came in

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01:54:27,853 --> 01:54:31,173
Speaker 2: with his opinion. Look, we love a strong opinion, but

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01:54:31,253 --> 01:54:34,053
Speaker 2: the way he delivered this was so precise it had

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01:54:34,053 --> 01:54:34,972
Speaker 2: to win Caller of the Week.

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01:54:35,173 --> 01:54:38,772
Speaker 6: It's definitely media generated. I mean, Trump's taken less drugs

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01:54:38,772 --> 01:54:43,852
Speaker 6: than JFK. He's less obnoxious than Lyndon Johnson, He's Cheetah

2439
01:54:43,893 --> 01:54:47,133
Speaker 6: and his wife less than Clinton. He started less worse

2440
01:54:47,213 --> 01:54:50,493
Speaker 6: than Bush. And I mean Obama drown so many people

2441
01:54:50,573 --> 01:54:55,253
Speaker 6: in Afghanistan, it's not funny. Where's the perspective. He's like

2442
01:54:55,573 --> 01:54:57,493
Speaker 6: an outlaw and we're all supposed to be against him,

2443
01:54:57,533 --> 01:54:59,453
Speaker 6: but I think he's shaking up the system. And I

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01:54:59,453 --> 01:55:00,333
Speaker 6: think that's a good thing.

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01:55:00,613 --> 01:55:03,733
Speaker 2: That's a very precise call, Isn't that fantastic? The Mattain

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01:55:03,733 --> 01:55:06,373
Speaker 2: til Afternoon's full show podcast about in about an hour,

2447
01:55:06,453 --> 01:55:09,012
Speaker 2: So if you missed anything, listen to the Oh listen

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01:55:09,053 --> 01:55:11,173
Speaker 2: at the gym at the beach, all while working on

2449
01:55:11,213 --> 01:55:14,093
Speaker 2: your life sentence block. But right now, Tyler, why am

2450
01:55:14,093 --> 01:55:15,213
Speaker 2: I playing the song, oh.

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01:55:15,173 --> 01:55:19,173
Speaker 3: Great song into the danger zones? Because we're getting these

2452
01:55:19,253 --> 01:55:22,012
Speaker 3: kick Us helicopters and the airbusses and just a few

2453
01:55:22,053 --> 01:55:25,092
Speaker 3: technical speaks about these wicked helicopters. They go three hundred

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01:55:25,093 --> 01:55:27,173
Speaker 3: and thirty k's an hour, arrange of nine hundred and

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01:55:27,213 --> 01:55:30,772
Speaker 3: sixty three kilometers and can carry weapons, including the Mk

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01:55:30,893 --> 01:55:32,733
Speaker 3: fifty four anti sub torpedoes.

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01:55:32,893 --> 01:55:35,293
Speaker 2: They are bad us, Yeah, but we didn't buy any

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01:55:35,493 --> 01:55:37,852
Speaker 2: thirty fives that they have in Maverick, do we did.

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01:55:37,893 --> 01:55:39,493
Speaker 2: We have a great weekend, give a taste of Key

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01:55:39,533 --> 01:55:41,093
Speaker 2: we go the Warriors, go to AB's and see on

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01:55:41,133 --> 01:55:42,333
Speaker 2: Monday afternoon.

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01:55:44,973 --> 01:55:47,613
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