1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks at b. 3 00:00:13,653 --> 00:00:21,653 Speaker 2: We've been thinking about the future, like its show me 4 00:00:23,013 --> 00:00:28,053 Speaker 2: Tomorrows and comment for sure, let's pretend it's not the 5 00:00:28,293 --> 00:00:29,213 Speaker 2: end of the World. 6 00:00:34,093 --> 00:00:37,053 Speaker 3: This is End of the World by Miley Cyrus of 7 00:00:37,173 --> 00:00:40,893 Speaker 3: her ninth album Something Beautiful, and to talk us through 8 00:00:40,893 --> 00:00:43,173 Speaker 3: the album, I'm joined by Estyle Clifford. Good Morning, a 9 00:00:43,213 --> 00:00:44,613 Speaker 3: Steale Morning. 10 00:00:44,813 --> 00:00:47,933 Speaker 4: Yes, soaking up the Miley vibe this weekend. That is 11 00:00:48,013 --> 00:00:51,293 Speaker 4: the radio friendly song that's on this album, End of 12 00:00:51,333 --> 00:00:54,573 Speaker 4: the World. She had wanted to make an album that 13 00:00:54,653 --> 00:00:57,493 Speaker 4: was entirely about how sometimes the terrible things that happen 14 00:00:57,533 --> 00:01:00,253 Speaker 4: in life and the world still have a beauty to them. 15 00:01:00,373 --> 00:01:03,093 Speaker 4: So that's where that song is kind of like sitting 16 00:01:03,133 --> 00:01:06,653 Speaker 4: us and it's got that pop disco thing that I 17 00:01:06,693 --> 00:01:08,653 Speaker 4: mean everyone's kind of embraced that over the last couple 18 00:01:08,653 --> 00:01:11,533 Speaker 4: of years. So no surprises really that Miley has also 19 00:01:12,093 --> 00:01:15,093 Speaker 4: given us one of those kind of bangers and midway 20 00:01:15,133 --> 00:01:18,053 Speaker 4: on the album where it just all turns into I 21 00:01:18,053 --> 00:01:19,813 Speaker 4: think she just wants us to dance, like just get 22 00:01:19,893 --> 00:01:21,813 Speaker 4: up and dance the best we can. Something that I 23 00:01:21,813 --> 00:01:23,973 Speaker 4: think you'll love about this album, and Francesca is that 24 00:01:24,013 --> 00:01:26,933 Speaker 4: there's also a pop opera film to come out in 25 00:01:27,013 --> 00:01:31,653 Speaker 4: mid June. She says, is inspired and I know you're gonna. 26 00:01:31,613 --> 00:01:34,533 Speaker 3: I'm having Jennifer Lopez. I'm having Jennifer Lopez moments. 27 00:01:34,813 --> 00:01:37,413 Speaker 4: Yes, So I'm hoping it's not as self indulgent and 28 00:01:37,973 --> 00:01:39,853 Speaker 4: as that, but I can't help thinking it might be. 29 00:01:40,813 --> 00:01:45,493 Speaker 4: She has been inspired by Pink Floyd's The War and 30 00:01:45,733 --> 00:01:48,173 Speaker 4: you know, I mean, will it have the same legacy. 31 00:01:48,253 --> 00:01:51,013 Speaker 4: I dare say it won't. It's meant to be just 32 00:01:51,533 --> 00:01:54,933 Speaker 4: it's gonna have more fashion flair. And to me, the 33 00:01:55,013 --> 00:01:57,093 Speaker 4: clips that she's she had to tease it kind of 34 00:01:57,093 --> 00:01:59,173 Speaker 4: does look like a whole lot of music videos put together. 35 00:01:59,533 --> 00:02:02,893 Speaker 3: Okay, So I've been I've read things, and I've heard 36 00:02:02,973 --> 00:02:05,893 Speaker 3: it's a concept album, it's experimental, it's psych adelic. But 37 00:02:06,013 --> 00:02:08,573 Speaker 3: I'm just hearing good old Miley pop here. 38 00:02:09,253 --> 00:02:10,853 Speaker 4: Well that's the thing. When you listen to that song, 39 00:02:10,893 --> 00:02:12,933 Speaker 4: you're like, but it's pop disco and there's sinse and 40 00:02:12,973 --> 00:02:15,573 Speaker 4: there's like sort of an Ada kind of harmony, and 41 00:02:15,613 --> 00:02:18,453 Speaker 4: you know when they go slightly minor key and it 42 00:02:18,453 --> 00:02:20,253 Speaker 4: makes your skin go a little bit tingling and you're like, oh, 43 00:02:20,253 --> 00:02:22,013 Speaker 4: that's kind of fun. I can sing the harmony to that. 44 00:02:22,533 --> 00:02:25,893 Speaker 4: There's definitely lots of that, and that's the thing she's 45 00:02:25,893 --> 00:02:29,213 Speaker 4: spoken up this album to be like it definitely is 46 00:02:29,293 --> 00:02:31,693 Speaker 4: genre bending and that she doesn't just sit there. So 47 00:02:31,733 --> 00:02:34,333 Speaker 4: there's definitely some other stuff, Like there is some psychedella, 48 00:02:34,333 --> 00:02:37,253 Speaker 4: there's some there's some house. Sometimes you're gonna hear this 49 00:02:37,373 --> 00:02:41,053 Speaker 4: full on saxophone intro and then you've got strings and orchestra, 50 00:02:41,453 --> 00:02:43,533 Speaker 4: but then you're back to the synth kind of vibe. 51 00:02:43,613 --> 00:02:47,293 Speaker 4: And then there's another song where she actually almost tries 52 00:02:47,333 --> 00:02:49,533 Speaker 4: out some Lana del Ray sort of styles where her 53 00:02:49,613 --> 00:02:52,973 Speaker 4: vocals don't overpower the song. So that's kind of different 54 00:02:53,253 --> 00:02:55,133 Speaker 4: for Miley because I think we're used to her doing 55 00:02:55,173 --> 00:02:58,973 Speaker 4: those very big vocal builds. But I wouldn't say that 56 00:02:59,013 --> 00:03:03,213 Speaker 4: it's off the chain psychedelic. She wanted it to be 57 00:03:03,453 --> 00:03:07,133 Speaker 4: that she's taken you somewhere and you can vibrated a 58 00:03:07,173 --> 00:03:07,813 Speaker 4: higher level. 59 00:03:09,173 --> 00:03:10,333 Speaker 3: Did you vibrate a stell? 60 00:03:11,333 --> 00:03:13,053 Speaker 4: I don't know that I did, And it did take 61 00:03:13,093 --> 00:03:14,853 Speaker 4: me a few listens to be like, what is going 62 00:03:14,893 --> 00:03:20,693 Speaker 4: on here? Like, well, maybe after a few listens, I 63 00:03:20,733 --> 00:03:22,493 Speaker 4: think like some are saying it's like a really concise 64 00:03:22,533 --> 00:03:25,933 Speaker 4: album and I'm like, what where's the Like, there's not 65 00:03:26,173 --> 00:03:29,053 Speaker 4: there's not continuity, and you know, do you know? Also 66 00:03:29,293 --> 00:03:32,893 Speaker 4: she's put interludes in, like there's little full on loud 67 00:03:33,013 --> 00:03:34,933 Speaker 4: music interludes. And to me, that's a bit where you 68 00:03:34,933 --> 00:03:37,413 Speaker 4: get costume changes done when you're doing a live show. 69 00:03:37,453 --> 00:03:40,773 Speaker 4: It almost plays out like song for song, how a 70 00:03:40,813 --> 00:03:43,773 Speaker 4: live show would flow. So maybe that's what it is, like, 71 00:03:43,813 --> 00:03:46,613 Speaker 4: maybe that is interesting, the whole concept of it that 72 00:03:46,693 --> 00:03:48,973 Speaker 4: this is because I'm like, one of those interludes, we 73 00:03:49,013 --> 00:03:51,173 Speaker 4: don't almost need them, but that's where you would go 74 00:03:51,213 --> 00:03:53,173 Speaker 4: get your costume change. So that's that's for me. Where 75 00:03:53,213 --> 00:03:56,613 Speaker 4: that kind of was a little thing she did in 76 00:03:56,653 --> 00:03:59,853 Speaker 4: Harpers Bizarre was that the songs, whether are about distruction 77 00:03:59,973 --> 00:04:02,133 Speaker 4: or heartbreak or death, they're presented in a way that's 78 00:04:02,173 --> 00:04:05,413 Speaker 4: beautiful because the nastiest times of our life do point 79 00:04:05,573 --> 00:04:09,613 Speaker 4: to a beauty and I think maybe hearing that helps 80 00:04:09,653 --> 00:04:13,373 Speaker 4: you get through the songs. There's hates of catchy stuff 81 00:04:13,533 --> 00:04:15,173 Speaker 4: like she's still real clever, right. 82 00:04:15,133 --> 00:04:17,293 Speaker 3: Like she's a very good songwriter. 83 00:04:17,453 --> 00:04:20,853 Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's something about her voice it just draws 84 00:04:20,853 --> 00:04:23,053 Speaker 4: me in and when I physically watch her, I find 85 00:04:23,053 --> 00:04:27,413 Speaker 4: it quite mesmerizing just how she presents herself in the 86 00:04:27,453 --> 00:04:29,813 Speaker 4: confidence that she's coming out with in this album. I mean, 87 00:04:29,813 --> 00:04:32,573 Speaker 4: that's to be admired, and I think that's awesome. And 88 00:04:32,613 --> 00:04:35,573 Speaker 4: there's some real strutting stuff going on in here, and 89 00:04:35,613 --> 00:04:37,973 Speaker 4: you just have to go through it a couple of 90 00:04:38,013 --> 00:04:40,733 Speaker 4: times to go, you know, you're saying, not a. 91 00:04:40,653 --> 00:04:43,613 Speaker 3: Bad thing, Estelle, that's not a bad thing that we 92 00:04:43,733 --> 00:04:46,173 Speaker 3: have to work a little bit to kind of find 93 00:04:46,173 --> 00:04:48,373 Speaker 3: the gems and find the moments in an album when 94 00:04:48,373 --> 00:04:50,253 Speaker 3: it's all presented to you, you know that three or 95 00:04:50,253 --> 00:04:52,133 Speaker 3: four listens later, there's half that you're not going to 96 00:04:52,173 --> 00:04:53,013 Speaker 3: want to listen to again. 97 00:04:53,573 --> 00:04:56,013 Speaker 4: And maybe that is the magic and cleverness of what 98 00:04:56,093 --> 00:04:57,893 Speaker 4: this album is, where you'll go, oh, I thought I 99 00:04:57,933 --> 00:04:59,853 Speaker 4: didn't really like that. But but for me, like there's 100 00:04:59,893 --> 00:05:02,693 Speaker 4: some at the start where I'm like, oh, yeah, it's okay, 101 00:05:02,733 --> 00:05:04,613 Speaker 4: But I've gone back a couple more times and gone, oh, 102 00:05:04,653 --> 00:05:06,533 Speaker 4: you know what, this is kind of growing on me now. 103 00:05:07,133 --> 00:05:09,373 Speaker 4: And I think sometimes it's a lyric that will suddenly 104 00:05:09,413 --> 00:05:11,653 Speaker 4: stand out, or sometimes you're like, oh, that's a clever 105 00:05:11,773 --> 00:05:15,933 Speaker 4: little music bit in the background. Or a clever use 106 00:05:15,973 --> 00:05:18,413 Speaker 4: of some of the drums and synths to drive you through. 107 00:05:18,653 --> 00:05:21,933 Speaker 4: But I would definitely say it still more leads, you know, 108 00:05:21,973 --> 00:05:24,973 Speaker 4: this whole pop opera kind of thing, which still has 109 00:05:25,013 --> 00:05:28,213 Speaker 4: that very discoie vibe to me. That's where I kind 110 00:05:28,213 --> 00:05:31,253 Speaker 4: of think that it is. There's a deet that she 111 00:05:31,373 --> 00:05:36,093 Speaker 4: does with Brittany Howard, who now I can't think except 112 00:05:36,093 --> 00:05:39,933 Speaker 4: for Filmer the Unicorn, but she's from Alabama shakes, there 113 00:05:39,973 --> 00:05:40,773 Speaker 4: we go. I got it. 114 00:05:41,333 --> 00:05:43,693 Speaker 3: I'm glad you do because I had no idea where 115 00:05:43,693 --> 00:05:44,093 Speaker 3: we're going. 116 00:05:44,133 --> 00:05:44,253 Speaker 1: There. 117 00:05:45,013 --> 00:05:48,773 Speaker 4: She does this real cool voice stuff through one of 118 00:05:48,773 --> 00:05:51,453 Speaker 4: the songs, and it's really good. There's also a song 119 00:05:51,573 --> 00:05:53,453 Speaker 4: every Girl You've Ever Loved and you're going to play 120 00:05:53,453 --> 00:05:57,253 Speaker 4: some of that out of here. It features Naomi Campbell, 121 00:05:57,293 --> 00:05:58,573 Speaker 4: and so I was a little bit scared that Miomi 122 00:05:58,613 --> 00:06:01,253 Speaker 4: Campbell was doing some singing, but actually she's doing this 123 00:06:01,333 --> 00:06:07,493 Speaker 4: really hypnotic rhythm type almost poetic vocue, cool stuff just speaking. 124 00:06:08,373 --> 00:06:10,733 Speaker 3: I thought you're gonna say rap for a minute. 125 00:06:10,613 --> 00:06:12,733 Speaker 4: Oh I got yeah. I mean I had all sorts 126 00:06:12,733 --> 00:06:14,213 Speaker 4: of things going on in my head before I got 127 00:06:14,253 --> 00:06:18,253 Speaker 4: to that song, but it's it's her beautiful English accent. 128 00:06:18,693 --> 00:06:20,973 Speaker 4: It's basically commanding us to strike some poses. 129 00:06:21,053 --> 00:06:24,093 Speaker 3: I think this release, I think I think she has 130 00:06:24,133 --> 00:06:25,653 Speaker 3: sung before she. 131 00:06:25,613 --> 00:06:28,493 Speaker 4: Has You don't you don't need to go there. 132 00:06:28,573 --> 00:06:29,533 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I won't. 133 00:06:29,933 --> 00:06:30,093 Speaker 2: Yeah. 134 00:06:30,173 --> 00:06:33,133 Speaker 4: Yeah, just enjoy this for what it is and then 135 00:06:33,173 --> 00:06:35,013 Speaker 4: the music video that will go with it where it 136 00:06:35,093 --> 00:06:37,653 Speaker 4: is exactly this. It's like a showdown of Naomi Campbell 137 00:06:38,093 --> 00:06:41,653 Speaker 4: and Miley Cyrus on a catwalk and leathery. 138 00:06:42,293 --> 00:06:42,733 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. 139 00:06:42,773 --> 00:06:44,533 Speaker 4: And you know, if you want to try some catwalk 140 00:06:44,573 --> 00:06:46,653 Speaker 4: stuff and get a bit fired up to do some 141 00:06:46,733 --> 00:06:49,213 Speaker 4: strautting this weekend, their energy is going to be in 142 00:06:49,253 --> 00:06:51,453 Speaker 4: that song. So yeah, never. 143 00:06:51,293 --> 00:06:53,333 Speaker 3: Know when you need to strautch. I love it a Stelle, 144 00:06:53,453 --> 00:06:57,093 Speaker 3: thank you so much. I hang on rating, would you? 145 00:06:57,613 --> 00:07:00,293 Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay, good luck with the Arthouse film when it 146 00:07:00,293 --> 00:07:05,293 Speaker 4: comes out June. Stylistic Fashion, Sure, let's go there. I 147 00:07:05,333 --> 00:07:07,893 Speaker 4: think definitely listen to the US for interest's sake, and 148 00:07:07,933 --> 00:07:08,733 Speaker 4: it's a seven out. 149 00:07:08,613 --> 00:07:11,933 Speaker 3: A teen lovely, Thank you so much, Estelle. I think 150 00:07:11,933 --> 00:07:14,693 Speaker 3: that sounds like a fair rating for what Estelle was 151 00:07:14,733 --> 00:07:16,853 Speaker 3: talking about there. Look, I'm a bit like Estelle. I 152 00:07:16,853 --> 00:07:18,773 Speaker 3: don't mind Miley Cyrus. I think she's got a really 153 00:07:18,813 --> 00:07:22,573 Speaker 3: great voice, interesting voice. She can write a banger, and 154 00:07:22,613 --> 00:07:24,613 Speaker 3: I'm always interested to hear what she has to say, 155 00:07:24,653 --> 00:07:26,373 Speaker 3: so I'll give it. I'll give it a well, we're 156 00:07:26,373 --> 00:07:29,693 Speaker 3: going to play some more music for you from Miley Cyrus. 157 00:07:29,853 --> 00:07:32,173 Speaker 3: After the break. It is eight to twelve. 158 00:07:32,773 --> 00:07:35,853 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 159 00:07:35,973 --> 00:07:38,773 Speaker 1: to news talks he'd b from nine am Saturday, or 160 00:07:38,853 --> 00:07:40,693 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.